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INTERVIEW: Rome & Jess Hilarious Unpack Their Co-Parenting Relationship · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Morning, everybody is thevej Envy Jess, Hilarious, Charlamagne and the guy.
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  Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest
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  Speaker 2: in the belt.
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  Speaker 3: Because today is National co Parenting Day. Yes, so we
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  Speaker 3: had to bring in a man who I feel like
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  Speaker 3: him and just have one of the best co parenting
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  Speaker 3: relationships I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: Room is here, Room is here. I got already use
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  Speaker 1: of you.
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  Speaker 4: You got it already.
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  Speaker 1: I got in trouble cause of you already. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Just say, I want to know who gave Room some
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  Speaker 2: liquor exploi And I was like.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't give it to it. I just told him
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  Speaker 1: where the ball was. Yeh, I said help yourself, help yourself,
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  Speaker 1: and you said it.
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  Speaker 5: Was You said it was apple juice. And so I
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  Speaker 5: was about to take a step and I was.
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  Speaker 4: Like, you know what, apple juice, I just ain't thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Was gonna pick the cup up you.
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  Speaker 3: And just have the best co parenting situation I've ever witnessed.
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  Speaker 3: How did y'all get to this point?
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  Speaker 4: Brough and she thinks she my mother first and foremost.
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  Speaker 6: But it took Tom. It took Tom. I felt like
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  Speaker 6: when you take the feelings out of it, and you
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  Speaker 6: realize that the child is the most important part of
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  Speaker 6: the relationship because it's still a reallyship. Whether you're intimate
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  Speaker 6: or not. You can do magical things, magical things. And
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  Speaker 6: I think that me being a dad that I was
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  Speaker 6: and that I am still today, I wanted that. I
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  Speaker 6: felt like if we wasn't gonna be together, it was
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  Speaker 6: no need for us to beef. We've created over time.
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  Speaker 4: Whereas now she's my best friend, She's my safe space.
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  Speaker 6: I feel like, you know, I convent to her because
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  Speaker 6: sometimes all the time I need it, But I feel
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  Speaker 6: like when I was pouring into these other women, they
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  Speaker 6: would use it against me.
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  Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
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  Speaker 6: Whereas though now and now that she's pregnant, I don't
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  Speaker 6: really call her and say certain things because I know
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  Speaker 6: she's going through certain things mentally now.
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  Speaker 4: So justice is always in my safe space.
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  Speaker 6: Though, so it's like she's always been a person that
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  Speaker 6: I go to a call, give me advice, some advice,
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  Speaker 6: sound take, but just to hear, but just to hear
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  Speaker 6: her give it to you, just to know that she care, because.
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  Speaker 4: I don't really have nobody.
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  Speaker 2: How did y'all, how did y'all meet How did you
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  Speaker 2: meet Jess And how did y'all start dating?
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  Speaker 4: Back then, when it was like, oh, this is this.
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  Speaker 1: Is something I want to know that.
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  Speaker 4: It's crazy because we grew the smile.
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  Speaker 1: He's starting to smile because we grew up in the
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  Speaker 1: same church.
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  Speaker 4: But we didn't know.
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  Speaker 6: We didn't know my mom. My mom was alive, my
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  Speaker 6: mom down. I was ten, my mom was alive. We
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  Speaker 6: went to the same church.
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  Speaker 4: My mom died.
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  Speaker 6: My father like really took me away from everybody. So
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  Speaker 6: now it was like fast forward. I'm like seventeen. It's
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  Speaker 6: Facebook and it's after my Space Facebook, and she came
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  Speaker 6: across my timeline and I was like, okay, so I
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  Speaker 6: did a dot dot dot and I put a basketball
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  Speaker 6: in Moji.
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  Speaker 1: You thought she was a w just shut up.
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  Speaker 4: Playing with you. She bid on it ta okay.
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  Speaker 1: She she was like what I forgot what she said,
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  Speaker 1: but I was like, I was just I think.
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  Speaker 6: I was like, I'm just coming to get my ball,
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  Speaker 6: coming to get with mine something.
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  Speaker 1: I said, what and why the basketball room? I need
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  Speaker 1: to know I've seen it somewhere. Basketball. No, I seen
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  Speaker 1: somebody do.
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  Speaker 6: That, Like I don't know what I seen basketball.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm like I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I just I did it because I thought it was
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  Speaker 4: it was corny, but I thought it was you know.
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  Speaker 1: But it worked. It got our attention. What do you
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  Speaker 1: think just when you saw the basketball?
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  Speaker 5: I just I said what they Okay? I just typed
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  Speaker 5: that back and like he said, it was my ball.
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  Speaker 5: It's my ball and I'm coming to get I'm coming
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  Speaker 5: to get it or something like that, I'm coming to get
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  Speaker 5: with mine. And I was like, okay, what's that. I
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  Speaker 5: knew what I was giving, what it.
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  Speaker 1: Was about it, but it worked. It worked.
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  Speaker 2: So you started talking, Where was your first date? What
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  Speaker 2: was your first When you started first talking?
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  Speaker 1: What was your honest?
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  Speaker 4: Man, Jasica did a lot.
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna say this before a lot of these young
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  Speaker 6: guys became Jody.
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  Speaker 1: I was Jody, and our first date, big date, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna say it was six Flags. Okay, okay, all right.
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  Speaker 6: I never had a birth certificate that my mom died.
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  Speaker 1: It was here.
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  Speaker 4: My dad didn't want to come ahead to get it.
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  Speaker 6: There because he was born in I was going to
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  Speaker 6: stat Island, so my dad didn't want to get it.
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  Speaker 4: So for a long time I just had a college
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  Speaker 4: I d I was driving on a college I d
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  Speaker 4: but Jessica, it was the.
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  Speaker 6: Simplest one to let me drive with no ID. I
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  Speaker 6: meant with no license.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I was.
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  Speaker 6: I was responsible though, so I used to work at
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  Speaker 6: the car wash. I used to clean it, shine it up,
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  Speaker 6: jealum atizing old nine yards.
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  Speaker 4: But our first date was six Flags.
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  Speaker 1: That morning I went and would get my permit.
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  Speaker 4: Before we left for six Flags. But I felt I.
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  Speaker 6: Went in there with my high horses. That's why I
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  Speaker 6: felt at first big written. It was written, but it
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  Speaker 6: was a computer written. Get written.
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  Speaker 4: That's difficult from I failed the one where it said
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  Speaker 4: put on your high bings or your low bings when
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  Speaker 4: it's when it's like when it's raining or something like that,
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  Speaker 4: or when it's the ground most slippery.
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  Speaker 1: Did you have shades on when you No, I ain't
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  Speaker 1: really wear shades like that.
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  Speaker 6: I did, But there was another you know, yeah, but
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  Speaker 6: first big date, six Flags.
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  Speaker 4: But before that we did a lot of other things.
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  Speaker 6: But after that it was we did a lot like
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  Speaker 6: she introduced me to a lot. Actually we both was
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  Speaker 6: the same age, but she helped make me become well,
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  Speaker 6: got me, you're becoming a man, coming to man.
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  Speaker 1: And then.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, then boom just.
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  Speaker 2: Always says that you are you were overprotective, make sure
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  Speaker 2: she was good.
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  Speaker 4: But she always said you can't fight. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 4: she never seen me fight.
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  Speaker 1: We fought.
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  Speaker 5: I got that from.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, I'm not going to fight her. Bro Oh
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  Speaker 4: it's crazy because I just got a picture from the window.
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  Speaker 6: You bust the minds man, no one window?
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  Speaker 4: What I fish?
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  Speaker 1: What what happened?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you can't be herd And if she could break
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  Speaker 2: a window from a fist out trying to.
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  Speaker 1: Fight, what happened? Wrong to take a slip thinking about that?
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  Speaker 4: All right?
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  Speaker 1: I was just talking.
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  Speaker 4: I was just in North Carolina this weekend.
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  Speaker 6: I was just just talking about this, like how my
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  Speaker 6: step brothers was like corny and ship right my step like, Jessica,
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  Speaker 6: pull up, mind you ate together, Jessica pulls up. I
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  Speaker 6: had a girl in the house. So my brother like
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  Speaker 6: he come to the top of the steps, like just
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  Speaker 6: at the door.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, here I come the nigga. Don't
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  Speaker 1: even wait for me to come. He let her in.
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  Speaker 1: He let her in. Oh boy, I walked right past
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  Speaker 1: him and his friends with the girl.
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  Speaker 4: Jessica get in the steps.
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  Speaker 5: Right, she wrote, But what did I see? When I
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  Speaker 5: walked down the steps, Jerne, you didn't see.
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  Speaker 1: And then she tries to fassage this story.
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  Speaker 6: Ashton, I had a portable rocking bassing that we could
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  Speaker 6: put it in the trunk, send it to her, bring it back.
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  Speaker 6: Ashton was in a portable rocking joint. Me and the
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  Speaker 6: girl was on on the bed. I had on basketball
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  Speaker 6: short she had on her uniform pants.
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  Speaker 1: She's gonna say she's been saying this was the middle CEO. Correct,
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  Speaker 1: she's a correctional officer.
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  Speaker 6: So like she's sitting she facing me, but her legs
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  Speaker 6: is like you know how that goes? Just coud come
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  Speaker 6: down and say she keeps She gonna say, oh, we
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  Speaker 6: was naked. We was not naked. If it had been happening, I.
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  Speaker 4: Don't get naked.
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  Speaker 1: And when she topped it.
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  Speaker 4: Up, Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: She's never gonna tells anyway, she banged the girl. You
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  Speaker 1: beat up the girl. She didn't beat up bang popped
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  Speaker 1: us and I.
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  Speaker 4: Picked up and walked up and throw outside.
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  Speaker 5: You could never lift me.
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  Speaker 1: You never see what I'm saying. She never wants to.
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  Speaker 1: She never wants to admit the truth. On the field.
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  Speaker 1: Couldn't fight, No.
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  Speaker 5: I ain't noight or not, but she had the one
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  Speaker 5: time and then she she put on her uniform and
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  Speaker 5: went unless went upstairs.
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  Speaker 1: I promise you, I wish it was the.
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  Speaker 5: Cat started fighting that that. No, my son was not
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  Speaker 5: in no portable nothing. He was on the floor on
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  Speaker 5: a blanket, and the cat was looking at him like
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  Speaker 5: he wanted.
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  Speaker 4: To eat him under the carpet.
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  Speaker 1: So I will never lay my I wouldn't even lay
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  Speaker 1: on the floor.
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  Speaker 5: So I was my son on the floor.
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  Speaker 1: My son was in a portable bassinet. Okay, y'all were
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  Speaker 1: arguing about this for eleven. Tell you she was drunk
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  Speaker 1: out of her mind.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm trying to figure out.
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  Speaker 5: I was just getting off for.
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  Speaker 4: Work, hadn't God, you did not just get off where
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  Speaker 4: he was fired at that time.
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  Speaker 5: So I got fired right after that. I was working
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  Speaker 5: at McDonald's. That's when I was stealing. And then if
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  Speaker 5: I was drinking, okay, I was drinking on the joe,
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  Speaker 5: but I was at work. So and then I came
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  Speaker 5: to get my son, and it did not come.
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  Speaker 6: Get your son because it was my weekend. So what
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  Speaker 6: I was getting till Monday from.
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  Speaker 1: Day kid, why would you coming?
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  Speaker 4: No, he was coming to be nosy, I didn't have
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  Speaker 4: to come to me.
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  Speaker 1: She was looking for the passing your water. If you
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  Speaker 1: get cousin, she because go home. Eleven years years old.
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  Speaker 4: Man, that's my god. How did you break the woman
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  Speaker 4: that should her hands? You walked out? No, I threw
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  Speaker 4: ass out.
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  Speaker 5: You're not that she was not that strong.
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  Speaker 1: You did not. Yeah, I mean I had you and
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  Speaker 1: it was steps right there.
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  Speaker 5: Could never ever eaten right now, could not do that.
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  Speaker 1: You need the window. I was just really really because.
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  Speaker 5: He wouldn't give me my son. She's give me my son.
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  Speaker 5: You called the police.
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  Speaker 6: Say, I didn't call the police, called the police, never
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  Speaker 6: called the police. Yeah, I didn't call the police.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, very everybody here is well, I'm.
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  Speaker 6: From the jail is right there, right around the corner.
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  Speaker 1: You can walk. It's the women. The commotion he walk to.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how they came.
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  Speaker 6: I thought my stepmother called my god call one.
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  Speaker 4: It was my step mother house, my god mother house.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody called because I ain't called the police.
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  Speaker 6: My phone was cracked because you cracked the phone.
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  Speaker 5: The phone, but he can still everybody in the house
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  Speaker 5: had the phone. He called my He called the police
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  Speaker 5: on me, and then going and then when the police came,
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  Speaker 5: I was I just sat in my car. I was mad.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, no, I can't move here to get
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  Speaker 5: my son. And Nicole did tell me your come on
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  Speaker 5: this pull off. He's not giving you the baby. He
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  Speaker 5: not giving you the baby. I was like, all right, cool,
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  Speaker 5: but I was mad, so I didn't pull off police
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  Speaker 5: paddy wagon and pulled up and got out, and you
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  Speaker 5: was like, she right, there.
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  Speaker 1: Was I trying to get you?
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  Speaker 6: How did I try to get you locked up when
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  Speaker 6: I'm the same one call trying to bail you out
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  Speaker 6: with no money.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know why you ever thought you could build
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  Speaker 5: somebody out with no mindy, I.
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  Speaker 1: Ain't sleep that night out you have a been You
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  Speaker 1: ever went through a woman phone? Of course?
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  Speaker 4: Could you eat after that? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: You could?
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  Speaker 4: Well I couldn't.
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  Speaker 1: I'm comparing that to you when she went to jail.
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't eat.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't sleep, you know, and sick. I didn't. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't want want jail. Why the would I call the police?
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  Speaker 1: So how did you push the window?
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  Speaker 4: That's what I had.
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  Speaker 5: Brought up to it, and then I just he had
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  Speaker 5: a Honda hand No, it was it was my first
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  Speaker 5: car and it just got adn't like it when I got.
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  Speaker 1: It because you are jealous. Now remember freedom.
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  Speaker 6: I had freedom once I got it very much. She
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  Speaker 6: couldn't call me say bring me my car back, Jody.
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  Speaker 1: I've never called you that. I've never call you any
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  Speaker 1: She took you to get the car.
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  Speaker 5: I ain't never seen nobody.
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  Speaker 6: When we when we when we got when I got
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  Speaker 6: the car.
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  Speaker 1: When I got the car, she was like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: like this ship.
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  Speaker 5: I said, yeah, so this means you re really be
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  Speaker 5: doing you.
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  Speaker 1: Because she was just doing you.
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  Speaker 5: He would drop me off the work and go act
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  Speaker 5: like he in class.
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  Speaker 1: I was a student then at a beach for my associates.
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  Speaker 1: That's I did.
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  Speaker 6: I went to the class because that's why you got
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  Speaker 6: off work two o'clock. You have to be to work
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  Speaker 6: six o'clock. So I was getting up five am every morning.
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  Speaker 6: We got your work.
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  Speaker 4: You got the job bout five forty five.
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  Speaker 6: I got out of class at one thirty, did my
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  Speaker 6: homework for the fifteen minutes, came the cold Spring, make Donalds,
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  Speaker 6: and picked you up.
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  Speaker 4: Then we went home.
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  Speaker 1: That was my routine. Money to Friday, won a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things. But did you hurt your hand? No?
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  Speaker 5: It didn't hurt till I got in jail. I ain't
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  Speaker 5: gonna lie when I got in jail.
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  Speaker 4: But it hurts.
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  Speaker 1: She's sobered up.
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  Speaker 5: This is the crazy thing. I was not that drunk.
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  Speaker 5: So then when I got guess who did my job?
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  Speaker 5: Damn gotten no gas? Who did my intake? The damn
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  Speaker 5: girl who was with him?
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  Speaker 1: The one did you punched?
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  Speaker 5: Yeap, yes, she went.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't do that?
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  Speaker 5: Did the same girl that I popped?
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  Speaker 1: Y'all?
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  Speaker 5: She did it, but she didn't say nothing because she
• 12:45
  Speaker 5: couldn't be caught up in nothing like that got fired. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I straight sold on her, like yeah, because I was like,
• 12:51
  Speaker 5: so you absolutely at Wow, how could you actually want
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  Speaker 5: to fuck with a nigga who laid his baby and
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  Speaker 5: the cats on the on the carpet she got.
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  Speaker 3: I ain't mad at that on that very much because
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  Speaker 3: you don't know what she could have tried to do
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  Speaker 3: to you in that situation, so you gotta put everything
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  Speaker 3: on it.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, it was ghetto will be gotten, and
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  Speaker 5: that's what it was.
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  Speaker 3: So now when you hear this story and you say
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  Speaker 3: to yourself, why they there on National co Parent Day
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  Speaker 3: because they are like the best of friends. Now they
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  Speaker 3: call each other. Jeff called you her brother. How do
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  Speaker 3: you feel about that?
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  Speaker 1: How did y'all get there? Do you look at her
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  Speaker 1: like your sister? You said, mama, I was gonna.
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  Speaker 6: Say what she said, created that like my mother, Like
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  Speaker 6: when we are the town and she got like my mother.
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  Speaker 4: No, I ain't gonna disclose too much, but she thinks
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  Speaker 4: my mother. No.
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  Speaker 6: I just know she likes to control, like she know
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  Speaker 6: how I am though like me and alone. I think
• 13:44
  Speaker 6: part of that controlling pause, like o'kay b be twenty
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  Speaker 6: of us.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be with child, So guess what
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do.
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  Speaker 5: He can go out of town with these twenty people
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  Speaker 5: and then be like all right.
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, no, we could be all on sprinting. What's
• 13:57
  Speaker 6: going on now on sprint or whatever state we go to. Bro,
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  Speaker 6: I'm won't even gonna go with a rental or slingshot
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  Speaker 6: or something better not be raining.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that that.
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  Speaker 6: Controlling part comes in just because she cares, and sometimes
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  Speaker 6: especially when I'm under the influence, I've done dumbass ship.
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  Speaker 2: So as good as you know that you I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if you heard just assist in the back.
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  Speaker 6: Everybody like you know, everybody knows, but I hold myself
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  Speaker 6: accountable that mind you.
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  Speaker 4: Now, I ain't gonna say you I learned from Oneman six.
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  Speaker 4: I did the dumbas ship over and over again.
• 14:31
  Speaker 6: But I think in that aspect, that's when the mother
• 14:33
  Speaker 6: of the mother with the v coming but the brother
• 14:36
  Speaker 6: calling me brother, and sisters were like, honestly without the
• 14:39
  Speaker 6: child like.
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: It it's there.
• 14:41
  Speaker 6: It's it's seem like Amazon cameras off, like you can't
• 14:45
  Speaker 6: fake this or make this ship up.
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Rome started that room started calling me sis first,
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: and then I started calling him bro. I you know,
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, we do have like a sibling dynamic
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: in some way. You know, he's still confides in my mom.
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: He like, my mom is our mother. Like it's not
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: it ain't nothing crazy, it's nothing intimate. Like seriously, I
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: always say this, people be like, yeah, right, I can
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: literally walk past and I don't do this. But what
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: I'm saying, I can walk past this man nigked and
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: he just they be like, girl, what like put that out?
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: I'm talking about seriously, like how do y'all know.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Each other's spouses or each other's boyfriend and girlfriend? Like
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: how do you deal with his girl, And how do
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: you deal with with.
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: Five? I never told you always try.
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: It's cool. Though it's cool, but this is this and
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: now this was the friction part and we got over that.
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: But this is the The friction part.
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: Was mom my bendess, I'm getting hot ship, But the
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: friction part was her getting into minds.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: But she's still a woman. I'm still a man. So
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: women tend to do that. And this is not no
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: shame to women.
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: I don't mean no disrespect by saying it, but I
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: think women tend to do that, especially a woman.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: That care about you, she said, But sometimes you make
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: bad decisions and she's there as your sister to make
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: sure you're good, regardless if it's relationship or whatever.
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: Correct with me personally, I never really like I talk
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: to her about certain things, but I never really like
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: my family to get into no intimate situation. Yeah, because
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: guess what, y'all feel a way about this person. However
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: y'all want, whether it's negative or good. If I'm gonna
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: deal with this person, I'm gonna deal with her like
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: the female can smack shit out me yesterday.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, I might get over it and fucking them all.
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: But it's like, that's why I always That's how I
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: was always able to distinguish the two, Like when Jessica
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: would have men when she come to me, like, I
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: don't know, like, I ain't never pillow talking or sneak
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: dish or nothing like I don't really care for Like,
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: it ain't nothing a nigga have that I don't if you.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Put it in that sense. But when she come to
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: me with a man, I tell her ain't right.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: But both of y'all gotta share, though, because you're gonna
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: want to know who around your son.
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: I never did though, Yeah, I never so in the
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: beginning stage, Yeah, don't have this nigga my summer.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: But I grew out of that.
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: So now it's I trust my child mom enough to
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: she won't bring no fans sit around my child, So
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: I don't say, oh, don't have this nigga round. That's
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: never been a problem. It has been a problem. Was
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: motherfucker's envy me. It's that for my last dog.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my dogs. Who's the dog my dog, Chris Chris Chris,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: my dog my dog. I ain't gonna hold he. I
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: think he's the I think.
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: Like me, honestly, me and jess Man like, I think
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: it's been times where a woman didn't like me and
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: her situation.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: But guess what, bye, yeah more so on and yeah,
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: it'll be more so on his end because it's much
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: more of them. But the thing is, the thing is,
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: like I don't like when because I even tell him
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: what he's going wrong to, like, yo, don't cheer her
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: like that. This is how how how you going to
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: introduce me to it?
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: Now I done got to know where, you know, and
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: whether she had a kid or not. Most of the
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: time it's the ones that have the kids. But it's like, yo,
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: you gotta do right or just be single, Like, don't
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: keep hurting women in the process of trying to find
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: what you're looking for. I mean, I know that's all
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: a part of dating, but when you have kids, it's different,
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: you know. And then here be like, oh, that's why
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: I don't like you to be getting into it, you know,
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: And then I don't like he he attracts a lot
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: of toxic women to like abusive relationships where women will
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: put their hands on them. I'm like, what, yeah, all right,
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: you know, but he don't. He's like no, but I
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: might be fucking with it them all. What she just
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: blacks your eye? What are you talking about? You know
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like, no, we're not doing it, but okay,
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: well she busts your nose whatever. Women have put.
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: Their hands on you, and that's why, and that's why
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: she's my dog, Like I think she's the only one
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: really honestly, do want to get the fuck under my skin?
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: Like it's a certain word place she used and I
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: don't care what tone she uses in, but to say that,
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: it's like I was really never taught how to love,
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: like from I lost my mom at ten years old.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: My heart, I'm moving my dad, and when I move
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: with my dad, my dad didn't move my dad in
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: my step mom, which is my mom. Now me and
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: my mom have a great relationship. That's my step mom.
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: And my dad was married. But my dad was cheating,
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: like saying, like my dad, my dad showing me.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: Ship that all right, I'm thinking cool m hm.
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: So like when even when I started dealing with women
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: and stuff like that, multiple women and all that, my
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: dad was like yeah, absolutely, And I'm thinking it's cool
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: because that's that's that's what I'm saying. I'm being taught,
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: like and every man in my life that I looked
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: at as a role model me was the same way.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: So it's like what you expect.
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: But the good thing is now it's like I'm old
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: enough now in mind, I ain't perfect.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Now I'm seeing it. I'm trying to, you know, change it.
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: But I never was taught to love properly, so and
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: I never my trust issues is fucked up from my dad, Like, bro,
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: my trust is hues. I met her because I'm seeing
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: what he's doing, but I'm saying when it's done to him,
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: his reactions like damn, my nigga, you were just doing this.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: How you're gonna get married? Right?
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: So it's like every relationship I've went into, I had
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: an expiration date.
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: Me.
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: I put an X frame on myself. I say, she's
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: gonna get she gonna get get what I'm getting.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: I'm gone, m hm. So I've never really gave a
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: woman the what's the word I'm looking for. I never
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: really gave a woman commitment, not even commitment, but I've
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: never gave a.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Woman a chance to really love me. But even with
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: the kids, like even having kids, No, I haven't.
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: And this is like I said, no distress to my children, moms.
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: A lot of my my children came out of vulnerability.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: M found on that. And I'm explaining that, So I will.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: Meet a woman who I may feel like she's what
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: I need, another safe place or whatever the case may be.
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: But I'm already vulnerable from a previous relationship ship have
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: a child, knowing I don't want to be with this woman.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: I don't want to. I don't I really don't want
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: to be.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: With her, but I feel like I'm forced to be
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: with her because of a child.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: Mhmm. And I've done that.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: You know multiple times you needed a therapist, not another baby, Mam.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: I need correct but at the time of need, at
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: the time in vulnerability. You know women, you know.
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: Women, women, can they be masked up?
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Yea.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: But then also you know, just on a accountability part
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: which he has taken over his recent years, is like
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: you was looking for like your mom and women, and
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: you would never get that, you know what I'm saying,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: because you was trying to look for an emotional connection
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: with with you know, nurturing also and then like you
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: was really really searched searching for Keisha. Keisha's his mother.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: You were really searching for her and women. You know,
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: that's that's a different type of love, you know what
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: I think different women always dealt with different women because
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: different women had certain.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: What is it, certain things aspects of her aspects of it.
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: But like I never knew how to be alone, bro,
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: Like I would be single and my own apartment and
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: all that and let it go and go move with
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: a woman because I never knew. Really, I don't know
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: how to I don't like being lonely like so it's
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: like a lot of the times when I say this
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: ship is real, like I don't know if a lot
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: of other men like me. But when being lonely, bro,
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: you go through so you don't get how much money
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: you got. I don't cap out none of that. But
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: like I never really knew how to be alone, Like
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: I feel like I got to have somebody laying next
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: to me.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Because even before my mom died, my mom was sleep naked.
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: This is a back then thing. How old were you
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: with I was telling? But I was a mommy's boy.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Did you ever did you ever really properly so grieving? No?
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: I never really grieved.
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: All I did was I thought it was gonna help
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: me by going to school for social work because that's
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: what she was. But I never really probably agrieved and
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: that's a that's a process. Now I do want to get,
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: you know, back in the gym. I do want to
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: get a therapist, but don't want everything else around me
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: to be in tact so that I could fully commit,
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: because if I ain't fully committed, it ain't gonna work.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: And then as I.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: Also feel like your your dad didn't get you any
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: tape dad.
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: Honestly, I felt like me personally, and this is probably
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: the first time I said this, Like I did. I
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: think my father really wanted me for a check and
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: exactly what I said, like the money and lied to
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: me for so long.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: I lost a scholarship because of my dad. Oh because
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: at the time where I wanted to go, I wanted
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: to get away from.
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: Them, so I had I had a couple of scholarships.
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: I had like over thirty a septences.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: I got to accept it to a school in Florida.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: I think it did your mom leave you money or.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah my mom? Yeah my mom, So my mom left you.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe the government gave you a job my mom?
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: My mom left money, my mom was getting money, and
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: you know, social securities stuff.
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: So it was like my dad was making bank like
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: I did that case. I ain't even say the calculations.
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: Calculations is crazy.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: What's your relationship with your dad?
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: We okay, you know we all right?
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: He you know, he's still living with that regret, and
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: I feel like that's why we can't really get there.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: But yeah, like I feel like my dad wanted me
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: for a check man a scholarship.
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: I lovet scholarship. I lost a scholarship because August, like
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: TVC's full school was supposed to start. I had got it.
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: I was leaving like my mom's side. He brought all
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: my dorm stuff and all of that. All my life,
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: my father always said, yeah, when you get eighteen, you're
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: gonna have money. You can go get your car, you
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: can go do what you want, you go to school,
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: whatever the case may be.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Alrighty cool, I get eighteen, I graduate. It's nothing there,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I asked my father. I'm like, well, there's.
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: Still no answer to My brother never even answered. So
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: I know I got a scholarship. I had a partial scholarship.
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: So a partial scholarship with the you paying the school
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: and on and room and board that's at the school.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I was going through.
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: That was about sixteen, seventeen thousand semester. I had like
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: a forty two thousand dollars partial joint.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: So my dad was always.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: Saying, all right, I got the rest. I got the rest.
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: So two weeks before I was supposed to leave, so
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: a month was supposed to be my family got all
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: my doing stuff. A week before I was supposed to leave,
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: my father called me.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: Up to the room and he like, I didn't even
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: say what he said. I'm like, he like, you can't
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: go to school. I'm like, why not, Like nigga, I'm
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: an age.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: Student, like I work off for this. I was an athlete.
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: I was a student. I ain't getting no office from
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: basketball my junior senior year. So I gave up and said,
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: fuck it, I'm gonna fall back on my grades. You
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: always said I had the money. The money wasn't there.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: He spent it all.
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: And you know, we turned eighteen, like seventeen and a half,
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: it stopped coming. But even even if it come again
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: when I'm eighteen, that's one check, all the rest gone.
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: And my stepmother used to always tell him, my stup
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: And I love my stepmother for this, and I wish
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: I'd known this when I was younger. But my step
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: mother used to always tell them put that money up,
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: But she never came to me because she didn't want
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: to overstep the boundaries of her husband.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: And I understood it.
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: But now that I'm grown and we have conversations now,
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: it's like I understood it because my father always tried
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: to make.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: People hate me. I hated my step Yeah, I hated
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: my step mother growing up, but it was never herd
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: it was him.
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: Lights sayn't get cut off. We had Christmases because of
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: my stepmam. My dudes got paid my senior due. I'm
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: talking my middle school dudes. My bro, you're getting money
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: for me in my middle school dues my step mother
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: paid them. My step mother and my teachers paid them. Wow,
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: high school dues.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: My stepmother paid them.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: And my friends. I got two friends. Their mother's paid
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: all that. So it was like my dad really crushed me.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: I told my dad a couple of weeks ago. Man,
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: I said, Bro, you hate me, not literally saying you
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: hate me, but you hate me so much.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: Because I got you. I caught your ways.
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: I said, what the difference between me, I'm young and
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: I'm changing. I'm gonna change them. You're twenty years older
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: than me, You're still doing.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: The same thing. You want to break those cycles.
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: And I want to It's not even me breaking a cycle, rogers.
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: I don't like being like this, Like I don't like
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: hurting people. I don't like hurting women. I don't like
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: I never really heard. I'm so loyal to my friends
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: that any little disloyal thing they do to me, they
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: cut off. So it's like the shit be hurting man,
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: And it's like, damn, I already had nobody. So then
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: when I got a child, mom, I cherish it. I
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: tell horash the really ones you love, the really ones
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: that's genuely there for you, the ones that you ain't
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: got to do nothing for, And I really love you
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: because guess what, at the end of the.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: Day, when shit goes, if shit go bad, they're gonna
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: be the ones you can count on.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: You know, there's this thing when when you start going
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: to therapy you'll hear about. It's this thing called the
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: mother womb, and it's a type of attachment trauma that
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: instills deeply rooted beliefs that make the child feel unloved, abandoned,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: unworthy of care and numb to their feelings that do that.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: You mass low loss, mas lole loss.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: It's done, yours.
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: A child will affect you as an adult, but it
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: will not define you, That's right. So it's like it's
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: crazy because going to schools, like, man, you're reading this shit.
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: I'm like, man, it's me, it's me, Like you know,
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: I'm thinking of my own therapists. But you know, every
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: therapist need a therapist, and that's how they that's how
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: they're able to be effective. So it's like, man, like, no,
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: I've been through I ain't have a bad upbringing, but
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: I've been through some traumatic situations, man, and you know,
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: like I ain't. They ain't gonna define me like them
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: babies and mom. Man, I love them babies. I feel
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: like if it weren't for my babies, i'd have crashed
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: out long ago, long time ago.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: But that's what I said. I got them babies.
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: And out of all my te I got, I got
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: I got two children moms like that. My last one,
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: you know, she she made no harm by certain things,
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: but I got that one and I got this one
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: to my left, man, my dog, and it's like she
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: give me hope every day she don't even know it,
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: like even when you know, we might not even argue,
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: but like every days I wake.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Up, she's doing all right? Are you feeling? Just because
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: I know that she needed like.
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: When you when you when you the the shoulders in
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: the head of families or communities, bro, Like it's a lot,
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: you know, Honestly, I think them people need it the most.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: So I give her her flowers every day, and I
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: feel like man like without her.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're on the right back, you know,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: they stay healing the mother when first starts with acknowledging
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: the pain and then seeking professional help.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: What you want to do cultivating healthy relationships.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: What y'all have done, and you're focusing on self care
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: personal growth, right, you're definitely on the right path.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Just won't get that mass time, take time, you know,
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: but it'll be there.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: How did y'all that's the most thing, the most I
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: won't say most important, but one of the most important things.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: How did y'all realize we don't have feelings for each other?
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: No more?
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: How did that just go away? Like y'all have y'all
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: love each other, but not in that way.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: I got my answer you want to go first, you
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: can go first.
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: Because I'm still thinking when I stopped caring about who
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: she dealt with, when I wouldn't even like I wouldn't
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: even care, Like how long.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Did that take?
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Oh? Oh three years?
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: So like when Ashton was like three, yeah, it was
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: still really yeah.
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: It was like things but at that but honestly, that
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: three years, like I had caught a big check. So
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: it's like I was almost a nigga. So it was
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: like it was the pain that I had. Whatever the
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: case I would, I would pay. I was like just
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: boy ship to block it out. But other than that, like.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: You ain't trying to stun on her a little bit?
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: No, I never, no, I never, No, I'm waiting for that.
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: I never intentionally stunted on her.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: I never did that.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Never.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: I did everything she possibly could ask me to do.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: And she said on one of these souls something about
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: a B G. E. Bill And I'm addressed that. I
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: never wanted that. I'm addressed that now with the bill.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: So so I'm explaining her life got cut off.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I got a five hundred thousand dollars checking Listen.
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: No, it wasn't right then and there, but it's over time,
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: because like a lot of my places helped me, she
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: helped me get a lot on the back end, but
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: in a time like I helped her.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: Whatever the case, I didn't.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Know she's moving with a man.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: I didn't move with a man.
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: Well she moved man in with her. Yeah, alright, okay,
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: he had you and the dog too, now in my business,
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: so I don't know that he's not there, so boom
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: hiss his So he's here's my logic, and I'm ana
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: say what I'm gonna say to her after I explain it.
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: My logic was all right, man is in the house.
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: Boom be eagy cut off, right, I'm thinking, like damn.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: So she like was wrong.
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: I'm like, well, I take my son with me. But
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: that wasn't me talking. That was the girlfriend I had talking.
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: Oh ship, ain't I never told you that because as
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: a woman, you ain't trying to hear that, and I
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: just wants as a man and you be and me,
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: I don't want to hear that. So I didn't want
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: to tell you that because I have felt less of
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: a man.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: So yeah, but I'm understand him.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: If somebody else is smacking the cheeks, listen.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: So the girlfriend was living in the house. So the
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: girlfriend was.
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: Like, don't talk about no house ahead.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: So the girlfriend was like, I took a certain amount
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: of mon out the bank. I did.
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: She was with me, She like, mind you the certain
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: amount of money I had to call because I was
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: gonna break it in half, give it to Jessica and
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: I take the rest.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: And I was going, man ash man ask that's all
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: I did, shot man ash.
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: So I was gonna give it that. But the girl like,
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: why are you giving it to Jessica. I'm like, cause
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: she needed.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: And she like, I never said that here.
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: I never said the reason. I never said the reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: I never said the reason though.
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: She was like, what ex that to do?
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: She needs?
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: Because I know you ain't giving her. No, she don't
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: need a bag or nothing like that. I'm like, no,
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: it's something else.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: She like, well, don't she got.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: A nigga living with her? And mind you, I'm drinking
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: at the time.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: You're thinking the same thing.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: I'm like, you weren't even thinking that till she said it.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking that, but I'm drinking.
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: But when she say it, because I'm not, like I said,
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: bro like wives and girlfriends I've seen. I've seen I've
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: seen men crumble and go against a family.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: Because of her wife or a girlfriend.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I've seen it, and I'm like.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: Know what, You're right?
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Why you ain't a just though crazy people?
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Sause I was a young emotional boy who had.
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: Just ran into a bunch of money and just came with.
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: Thatches every my nigga, I'm hurt, hurt young man got
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: a lot of money.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: Everybody and fucked me over.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Nigga, I got some money, I'm doing the fun.
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: I wanted to make myself happy, and that's how my
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: nigga went broke. Like it was times when I'm not happy,
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: but I go spend money just because I'm not like,
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: oh the coaches came out like that.
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: Everybody except me, I.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Was like and granted.
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: Right now on today, I'm gonna say I truly, sincerely
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: apologized for not taking care of you the way I
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: should have. And I'm gonna take my glasses because for
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: a long time, that ship hurt me.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: And it's like.
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: I never ever ever, especially I never ever ever ever
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: meant to do that to you. And it's like, now
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: that's why I even I worked so hard today.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: And just try to.
• 34:06
  Speaker 6: Even just give you something, but in due time that
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: you're gonna come back. I ain't, you know, I hadne
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: made that shit back when broke again, made it back
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: broke again. But my biggest downfall of the comments denominated was
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: alcohol and women. So that shit them two problems never
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: allowed me to really reach my full potential. And even
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: when I seen a couple of years ago, you've seen
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: it twenty nineteen when I was single, when I went
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: moved back by myself, I ran that motherfucker up.
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: Flourish ran.
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: That's one thing I know how that I'm running up,
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: but women holding me back. Man, I'm sorry that I
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: didn't do what I was supposed to do, and a
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: lot of motherfuckers said what I was in your job?
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: That one you done.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I felt that was my duty, but because I had
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: certain people in my in my.
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: Ear that I thought had their best interest in me,
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: but when the bag ran out, they left.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I'm not a sorry person.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I apologize.
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: I appreciate that, and but listen, I was not. I
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: was talking to a nigga. He moved in months after.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: You think a nigga was gonna move into a dark house,
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: You can't you think I wanted to a niggas see,
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: I was living no. And when you said I asked you, like, yo,
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: can you just get my my lights on? I'll pay
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: you back. That's when I was scamming and doing all
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: that shit. That shit got slow too, So I'm like,
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: all right, you was like, no, I take my son.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: Nobody taking my kid, not even as far Like as
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: long as ash was in stad of the dark, we
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: was good, you know what I'm saying. Like I still
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: had candles, we was playing, We was doing all that.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: We would stay outside until it went until it got dark,
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: and then we would go in the house. And him
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: he ain't never asked me why the lights ain't coming on.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: It don't matter. So as long as he was good,
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: I was good. I just wanted to be able, you
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, and just be like, yo.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: Get and you should have. Well guess what that made you?
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: A demon?
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: And when I say deeming, I said, in the best way,
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: that turnt you up. And I to teach my kids,
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: especially my oldest boy might love me, yo, bro, like
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: I don't want you to go through something bad and
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: learn a lesson. I don't think everybody should have to go
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: through something bad and not a lesson.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: But in your case, I feel like, yeah, I put
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: that battery in your back.
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: You know, when that battery came in your back, it
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: ain't treat me no way. It took still a minute
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: for us to create that bond.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: But y'all have it now. And I think y'all bo
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: should give each other some greades because.
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: Y'all and I always was a hurt young man, so right,
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: but I love the story.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: It shows the foundation and how now and how you
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: treat each other now. You know, I don't know you,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: but the way she talks about you on the radio,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: and like you said, she is a mother, She protects you,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: she holds you down.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: I just love to see it. You know.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll be telling us stop talking about room like that.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: He always did, like why you be talking about But
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: I get it.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: She don't mean no harm.
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: But she don't, like I said, man like I wish
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: a lot of other people but.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Take from us.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: And that's why this ship got to be on TV.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: That's why y'are writing a book.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, book coming, everything book coming, Yes, everything coming.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: I think the most important thing because I want you
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: all to save a lot of this, but what's the
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: most important thing. It takes the cold parent if y'all
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: you're just leaving on that because the national co parent
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: the day yo.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: I think I started off communication like a lot of
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: people be scared to hurt each other feelings, and a
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: lot of people be afraid to have uncomfortable conversations, whether
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: it's about kids, unhashed differences whatever. Like one day me
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: and Rome just literally met up and just we just
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: talked about everything that, you know, he felt like I
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: did him wrong in certain situations, and then he felt
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: like like I will always try because he says, I'm
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: controlling a lot, and I do take that, you know
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Yeah, I own that.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: Like I was trying to control how he parents sometimes,
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: like how how he would raise Ash and all of
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: that type of stuff. We just put everything on the
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: table and just just was like, all right, you're moving
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: forward because it's really about Ash and that's really like
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: when we after that, it was like no looking.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: Back, It's like all right, whatever.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Cool.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: It was just communication.
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: But I think that it's a couple of things, man, communication,
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: feelings out of it, ego out of it, ego for sure,
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: and just man, both parties, both parties got to be
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: in it. Door man like, I feel like you know now,
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: like even at my kids school and ship man like, dang,
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: you should the man.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: I think that's fucked up.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Your kids school, my children, my own children.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, the father is not a
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: norm so I always been.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I ain't. It's not I want.
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: I ain't say I'm changing on, but I'm changing on,
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: like it's me. You ain't got to call the mother,
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: you know I didn't Max, So call your father, Yeah
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: that's me.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Call me.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Don't call them others. I'm hands on.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be that.
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: And my oldest eleven man young. I just sat to school,
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: sat in the class for them the whole day.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: They call you, but Ash called me on the side
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: my dad much.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: But that was the thing too.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: We had to she had to learn don't don't don't
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: try to take the father from the child.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Let me father him.
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: Because I refuse for my son to become a statistic
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: I refuse my son to become a young, hurt little boy.
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: I refuse from my son to grow up not knowing
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: how to love a woman.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: I refuse my.
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: Son to be so many things that his father was,
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: I'm still young, so I'm still you know, I told
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: I told now, you're early. I said, man, like you
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: know one of my I'm gonna write my right. I'm
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: gonna write my rights to my boys.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Still learning unlearning right correct correct, unlearning to learn when
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: this co parents ain't easy man.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: And I used to be. I used to be hold
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: on him. How he was so hard on my son,
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: Like no, like you like as gotta want to talk
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: to you. You got to make him want to talk
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: to you, like he used to like come and talk
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: to me about things. He was scared to go to
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: his father about now because it was any abusive relationships anything.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: It was just like I can't talk today. You know.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: It was my son problem.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: And I like to say, I'm creating a young man man.
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: What some problem was? He don't like confrontation. Not confrontation,
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: but he don't like to confront a man. You When
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: I say that me his father, he don't like to
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: And I tell him, I said, Bro, you don't like something.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: You tell me I'm not like my father. Shut the
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: fuck up.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: Oh I'm your father.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Nah, No, ain't none of that.
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: Same brom We go to McDonald's and I'd be like,
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: all right, do you, Oh dad, I don't want that.
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: What you want, it's the same concept.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I get his head done.
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: Now you want to hair? Oh dad, I don't like that.
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: Tell me, don't go back and tell your mother. That's
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: what I'm getting mad because he was just with me
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: and I just asked you. He ain't say nothing.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: You want to communicate.
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: I want to communicate. When you communicate with me, you
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: look me in my eyes and tell me, Dad, I
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: don't want this. You ain't gotta be disrespectful when you
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: said I want to my baby getting better.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: But I'm here, so it's like, I don't know.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: Man, it's not hard, easiest fun. You have to make it,
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: make it a little bit.
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: But it's like, I don't like to do that.
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: It's just man like, I don't know. It's a mom
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: is different than when a dad raising. I'm doing everything
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: that I wanted. I wanted my father to come up
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: my squell, wanted my dad to talk to me. I
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: wanted my dad to ask me what I wanted. I
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: wanted my dad to.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: Come to my basketball game, my baseball game. My dad
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: been a one baseball game out of four years. Two
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: basketball games out of four years.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: You got to make sure you're raising your child out
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: of out of.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: And I don't want to live and that's that I
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: was scared of my father.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: My mouth I got picked up.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: That's what I got busted, lept.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Multip All fathers raised this.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Multip All fathers rais us how to figure They didn't
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: want us to end up going down the same path
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: they went down.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: So we got to figure out how to raise our
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: kids out of love. But you know, if mom's moms
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: get this, and I think I got that.
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: And I told my dad a couple of weeks ago, bro,
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: like you know, because he always come to me with my.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: Father my fu. I don't want to hear that ship.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm I'm a man now.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: Ain't gonna tell me how the fuck up.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that ship.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: Your father wasn't farther.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: He was a provider.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: I'm a nurturer. I'm my dad other nurture my baby.
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: Even your response to your dad is angry because he.
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: Always My response to my dad is what he's given
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: to me. Now, Like I'm a man now.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: So it's like, bro, I don't have to take that ship.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: I leave.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: But he's trying to explain, try to explain.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: He's still ain't figured it out.
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: So it's like you in the room and this is
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: meet and being in the room because you know, I
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: don't call you about this type of stuff.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: But this is me being in the room. It ain't
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: is he.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: It's a different story.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Man, I got somebody if you talk to him. I
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: got a therapist.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: I got a good therapist.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: I got a lot of them. No, no, no, I'm
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: not saying it like that.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about a real professional and I got a
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: real Yes.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: Don't want to require what you want.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I think I got somebody in mind for I want
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: a woman. You want a woman? I got you.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: I don't like man, I got you.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got you. You know exactly what you talk to.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: That's cool, man. I'm always open to it.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: But you know other than that, like you gotta want
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: to for yourself and do you you I've been there, man, Okay,
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: cut back.
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: You know, my biggest thing was just cutting back on
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: the alcohol. Like now, I do it for recreation. Thank
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: you for this is drink coffee, shot, drink coffee.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: This is a great conversation I'm sure it's a discussion
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: that will continue on not even just the monkst you know,
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: just in Rome, but this is amongst anybody out there,
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: you know, dealing with co parents issue. But I think Rome,
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: you know, Rome is talking to a lot of different
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: issues that a lot of us men go through, you know.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: What I mean.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: So I'm happy that you was vulnerable this morning, That's right,
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And their book is coming
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: soon be a black privilege polish simon the shoes, all right,
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: well it's wrong.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: Yes, it's the breakfast Club.
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: In the morning, wake that ans up in the morning.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: The breakfast Club