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Highlights for Curtis and Larry · Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: For all of you who are listening and want an
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  Speaker 1: update on the letter theft that's been taking place out
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  Speaker 1: of the blue mailboxes that I've been personally involved with,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not giving it to you now, Natalie or Larry
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  Speaker 1: or our audience. I'm going to give it to you
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the program. And boy, there's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot between what happened yesterday, me stopping the
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  Speaker 1: two banditos, getting the letter, showing how it is they
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  Speaker 1: steal mail out of the blue mailbox. But let me
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  Speaker 1: just do a quick PSA. Do not mail in a
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  Speaker 1: blue mailbox because you're Santa Claus. They're going to steal
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  Speaker 1: your mail. And it's not just the mail with maybe
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  Speaker 1: something of value inside. They discard the other mail that
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  Speaker 1: they're not interested in. But we'll discuss that at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the program.
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  Speaker 2: So cancel all your morning plans. Three hours from now,
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  Speaker 2: he's going to give the update.
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  Speaker 1: And it is fascinating. Or.
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  Speaker 3: If you're not with us, you could go to the
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  Speaker 3: podcast later.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. Very good, Natalie. What a great producer
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  Speaker 1: you are. But I'm telling you, it had a fascinating
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  Speaker 1: twist this morning. But a huge story, and this is
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  Speaker 1: affecting all of society. So no matter where you are
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  Speaker 1: throughout America, it could be rural areas, suburban areas, municipal areas.
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  Speaker 1: New survey, single men aged 20 to 39... There's been
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  Speaker 1: an increase by 50% since 2000 of those who are
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  Speaker 1: not getting married. And not because they're gay. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they're just not getting married.
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  Speaker 2: So gays can get married, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, they can. And they're not getting married either.
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  Speaker 1: They're not getting married either. I don't know why.
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  Speaker 2: Their marriages last.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 2: You notice that?
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  Speaker 1: No, actually, the percentages are, Larry, the same amount of breakups,
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  Speaker 1: close to 50%.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no, I just looked this up. If it's two males, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, two men.
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  Speaker 2: Two men, they last the longest. If it is two heterosexuals,
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  Speaker 2: It's the second most. The most divorces are with two women.
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  Speaker 2: So if you think about it, the more women, the
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  Speaker 2: greater a chance of divorce.
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  Speaker 1: Somehow I think you've turned those stats upside down, but
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  Speaker 1: that's fine. But this is affecting everybody out there. So
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  Speaker 1: the single men numbers have gone from 20. 0.7 million
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  Speaker 1: to 30.4 million ages 20 to 39 who have just
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  Speaker 1: not tied the knot. And it's not because they had
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  Speaker 1: an early marriage that didn't work out and they decided, hey,
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  Speaker 1: maybe marriage isn't for me. They just have not decided
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  Speaker 1: to get married. So unmarried young men now outnumber married
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  Speaker 1: young men in the U.S. nearly two to one. So
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  Speaker 1: 30 million unmarried young men, 15 million married men. Now, 68%
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  Speaker 1: of them still hope to get married in that 20
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  Speaker 1: to 39 age category. But I got to tell you,
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  Speaker 1: it's a lot different than when you were growing up, Larry.
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  Speaker 1: I was growing up, Natalie, and you were growing up.
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  Speaker 1: the whole circumstances now have changed.
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  Speaker 2: So you have how many? I have three sons. And
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  Speaker 2: so I have a 30-something, I have a 20-something, and
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  Speaker 2: I have a 19-year-old.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's perfect.
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  Speaker 2: I'm all over the place. None of them are married.
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  Speaker 2: Not one of them are married. Not one of them's
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  Speaker 2: even talking about getting married. The whole landscape has changed.
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  Speaker 2: And the whole landscape, even in dating, has changed.
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  Speaker 3: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Men, especially in college, they're very fearful. But then even
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  Speaker 2: young men are sometimes very fearful. All the rules have changed,
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  Speaker 2: and men now sometimes are seen as being almost criminals.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they're afraid that they're going to get in trouble.
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  Speaker 2: If they do the wrong thing with a woman, they're
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  Speaker 2: so afraid these days because the law so much skews
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  Speaker 2: to the women's side. that any accusation can ruin your life.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm just saying this because I've heard my sons
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  Speaker 2: talk about this, how you really have to find a
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  Speaker 2: woman that you can trust. And how do you find
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  Speaker 2: that out early on? I mean, you have to go
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  Speaker 2: out with them a couple of times, and even then
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  Speaker 2: they're suspicious. So it's really, there's this toxic male syndrome
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  Speaker 2: out there especially among women and especially ones that go
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  Speaker 2: through college because college, they get classes about this. They
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  Speaker 2: have symposiums about this, about what to be careful for
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  Speaker 2: and how to report. So all of the rules that
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  Speaker 2: we went through when we grew up, which were fine,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, have changed and changed. And so men
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  Speaker 2: are now guilty until proven innocent.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Now, I believe. that this survey does not
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  Speaker 1: take into effect the number of men and women, or
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  Speaker 1: men and men, women and women, who shack up with
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  Speaker 1: one another and don't get married.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, for periods of time. They live together. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we used to call it common law. They say, you
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  Speaker 1: can't call it common law anymore. It used to be
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  Speaker 1: common law. I would say that to my father. I'd say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: Cousin Vinny and Shirley, they're living in the same apartment.
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  Speaker 1: What do you call that? Dad, they haven't gotten married. well,
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  Speaker 1: that's common law, you know, common law. Now you've gone
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  Speaker 1: common law. It's like people are looking at you. It's
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  Speaker 1: not common law. So I'm confused about that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. Except I have three kids
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  Speaker 2: that I talk to, you know, and talk about how
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  Speaker 2: worried they are. But the fact that it's on their heads,
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  Speaker 2: but you're right. I mean, I do know a whole
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  Speaker 2: lot of couples. You know why? One of the reasons
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  Speaker 2: is marriages are so expensive. Like if they're a young
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  Speaker 2: couple and their parents aren't going to kick in they
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  Speaker 2: don't want to go through the marriage thing. You know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean? And many of them believe, why do
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  Speaker 2: you even need marriage? I mean, why does the state
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  Speaker 2: have to sanction or the church have to sanction this?
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  Speaker 3: And it's now more acceptable to live with someone. You
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  Speaker 3: go back 40 years, even 30 years, people are like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: they were living together. And now it's like, okay. So
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  Speaker 3: then they live together and be like, okay, well, why
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  Speaker 3: should we bother at this point?
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  Speaker 2: I remember when my daughter got married and I looked
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  Speaker 2: at her and I said, look, this is how much
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to spend on your wedding. Do you just
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  Speaker 2: want the money? I'll hand you the money and then
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  Speaker 2: you won't have to go through the wedding. We can
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  Speaker 2: have some small ceremony. She still wanted the wedding.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think my dad might have said that to
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  Speaker 3: me too.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, nope, I want the wedding.
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  Speaker 2: To me, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 3: I think about it now and it's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. I remember one of my uncles saying to his daughters,
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  Speaker 1: just elope. Go ahead, elope.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, well, here's the money.
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  Speaker 1: And then I'll act surprised. Oh, I didn't know. We
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  Speaker 1: were planning a big wedding, me and your mother.
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  Speaker 4: Curtis.
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  Speaker 1: We had no idea. But, you know, once you elope, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that meant you had sex. So, hey, you can't interfere.
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  Speaker 1: They got married at the Justice of the Peace in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 1: But my uncle said to her, Elope, don't worry. We'll
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  Speaker 1: act surprised. Like, we're shocked.
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  Speaker 2: That's so funny. That is really funny, except for the
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  Speaker 2: fact I don't understand. And you were offered the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand what it is about the wedding thing.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know either.
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  Speaker 2: With women that they want so much money spent on it.
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  Speaker 2: But it's wasted money.
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  Speaker 3: It's totally wasted money. I have been planting the seed.
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  Speaker 3: My kids are both in their early 20s. No plans
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  Speaker 3: whatsoever of getting married any time in the near future.
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  Speaker 3: But I've been planting the seeds about elopement. I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: that would be so romantic.
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  Speaker 2: Are you giving them money?
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  Speaker 3: I'll give them a little cash.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm like, just elope.
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  Speaker 3: Who wants the big wedding?
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  Speaker 2: That's what I said. I said, go to the islands.
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  Speaker 2: You could have a nice, just private wedding down there.
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  Speaker 2: You and your husband. Bring people with you. I've given
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  Speaker 2: you enough money. You can bring people with you. They
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  Speaker 2: can be the witnesses.
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  Speaker 1: But I noticed. No, but no.
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  Speaker 2: And it cost a lot more than the check I
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  Speaker 2: was offering.
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  Speaker 1: That with dating, unlike in my time, where it was common,
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  Speaker 1: you would go by yourself. And, you know, you would
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  Speaker 1: check out the scenes. Now, the guys show up with
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  Speaker 1: a posse and the girls show up with a posse.
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  Speaker 1: It's like sometimes they're walking down the block. There's 8, 10,
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  Speaker 1: or 12 young ladies together or 8, 10, or 12
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  Speaker 1: young men together. It's almost like they feel awkward just
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  Speaker 1: being by themselves walking into, let's say, a bar or
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  Speaker 1: whatever social occasion is happening. I never thought about that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think in our generation we wanted to show
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  Speaker 1: up with a posse of anything. We wanted it to
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  Speaker 1: be you, yourself, and I.
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  Speaker 3: That was your competition.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: I think what you're saying is outdated, too, because most
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  Speaker 2: of the people now are going online. Have you seen
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  Speaker 2: the numbers for these dating apps?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I see the advertisements in the subways every day. Grindr, Grindr, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: all these places. Oh, we're better than that one.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, you'll see women just, and in my family,
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  Speaker 2: I've seen women that are just swiping. And you see
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  Speaker 2: them on their phone, and finally you ask, what are
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  Speaker 2: you doing? And they show you. They're looking at guys.
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  Speaker 4: Nope.
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  Speaker 2: Nope. You know, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe. maybe so you don't go to a matchmaker any
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  Speaker 1: longer somebody who can do a shit action hook you
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  Speaker 1: up it's like you go on to grinder and all
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  Speaker 1: these other and then you.
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  Speaker 2: Have a conversation a little bit with the person online
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  Speaker 2: to see if you trust them you feel them out
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  Speaker 2: you go to meet them for the first time with
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  Speaker 2: a friend believe me i've gone through the entire thing
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  Speaker 2: i got a huge family now how.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know it's not all ai generated.
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  Speaker 3: Well when you show up Can I also let, Curtis,
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  Speaker 3: just so you know, Grindr is for the LGBTQ community.
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  Speaker 1: No, I have no idea.
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  Speaker 3: Just so you know.
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  Speaker 1: Advertised all over the place.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like Match.com.
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  Speaker 2: I think that was a tell.
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't that, remember the guy up in Maine, the lobster guy? oyster, whatever?
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  Speaker 1: He was on Grindr, remember? That's how he got cold busted.
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  Speaker 1: So that meant he was gay?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to assume so.
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  Speaker 1: All right. It's okay. Whatever floats his boat.
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  Speaker 3: That's what Grindr's app is for.
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  Speaker 2: It's for, you know, LGBT.
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  Speaker 1: How do you know that?
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  Speaker 3: It's just something that you know.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Just inquiring.
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  Speaker 3: Although I'll have to tell you.
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  Speaker 2: What's it like being on Grindr?
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  Speaker 1: I've never been on any app.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm so thankful that that was before my time.
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  Speaker 2: Because that sounds awful. It sounds crazy. The whole thing
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  Speaker 2: sounds crazy. But I'm telling you, it is pervasive. It
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  Speaker 2: is constant. You can see a bunch of girls or
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  Speaker 2: guys sitting together. And they're not even talking to each other.
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  Speaker 2: They're online looking for people.
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  Speaker 1: So they're shopping. It's like another form of shopping. They're
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  Speaker 1: shopping for a potential boyfriend, girlfriend or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: It's Amazon for relationships. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Although I do have to say there is some hope
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  Speaker 3: because I have been seeing, I mean, my daughter and
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  Speaker 3: her friends, not very much into the app. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they were all doing them and then they're like, this
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  Speaker 3: isn't working out. Like, we don't like this. So there
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  Speaker 3: are a lot of like groups popping up where they're
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  Speaker 3: kind of meetups. Meet up and play pickleball. Meet up
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  Speaker 3: and play, you know, go to a run club.
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  Speaker 1: But the benefit for guys if they decide they just
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  Speaker 1: don't want to get married, right, is they're not thought
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  Speaker 1: of being gay anymore. In our generation, if you weren't
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  Speaker 1: on your way to getting married, remember Larry's people were like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: maybe the guy's gay. Who knows? Maybe he doesn't like women.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, nobody thought I was gay.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, this conversation.
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  Speaker 2: But it is true.
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  Speaker 1: Other than a Mama Luke who's 45 years old, still
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  Speaker 1: living at home with his Italian mother. No, he can't
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  Speaker 1: find anybody better than that. How do we get people on?
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  Speaker 1: I will get them.
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  Speaker 2: But I will tell you a couple of gay friends
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  Speaker 2: once told me you're the most heterosexual person I ever
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  Speaker 1: The conversation continues on 710WOR.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this Macklemore controversy is a nagging controversy in that
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  Speaker 2: it won't go away. As a matter of fact, it
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  Speaker 2: at least has the appearance, the appearance of growing bigger.
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  Speaker 2: That's because the people that are on Macklemore's side are
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  Speaker 2: the loudest. And so it's hard to figure out where
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  Speaker 2: America stands on this, where middle America stands on this.
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  Speaker 2: whether they care at all about this. As a matter
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  Speaker 2: of fact, I'd love to hear from you in the talkback.
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  Speaker 2: But it's such a big story right now that reporters
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  Speaker 2: in Washington, D.C., We're asking some of the Congress people and,
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  Speaker 2: of course, every single member of the squad, which is
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  Speaker 2: why I'm saying it's hard to gauge if it's just
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  Speaker 2: the loud left or it is across America. But I'll
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  Speaker 2: give you proof in one second that it's not across America.
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  Speaker 2: Here's AOC being asked about Ed Sheeran. Hey, if Ed.
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  Speaker 1: Sheeran comes on the radio while you're driving along, are
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  Speaker 1: you changing the channels?
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  Speaker 4: I am. I am.
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  Speaker 2: I can't listen to Ed Sheeran anymore. My God, I
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  Speaker 2: loved him for the longest time. She said she was
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  Speaker 2: a big fan. Now I can't even listen to him
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  Speaker 2: anymore because he did nothing. He did nothing wrong. But
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  Speaker 2: he had to jump on. He had to jump on
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  Speaker 2: the anti-Israel bandwagon to be acceptable, to be acceptable to AOC.
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  Speaker 2: What about Congresswoman Tlaib?
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  Speaker 3: Like Ed Sheeran and everybody side with the billionaire class,
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  Speaker 3: with those that can benefit financially and benefit personally from
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  Speaker 3: the status quo, you know, shame on them. I think
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  Speaker 3: it turns around and comes right back on them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Ed Sheeran blowback, I don't get at all.
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  Speaker 2: He is the nicest guy in the music industry, according
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  Speaker 2: to everyone. Here is a guy that tries to avoid
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  Speaker 2: controversy all of the time. And now he's in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of it because of this selfish idiot, Macklemore, who's
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  Speaker 2: trying to make a comeback. He put out a statement yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: To all of my Jewish brothers and sisters, criticism of Israel,
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  Speaker 4: criticism of apartheid, being against genocide in no way is
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  Speaker 4: a criticism of you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you don't do it at somebody else's concert.
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  Speaker 2: That seems to be the biggest problem. You just don't
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  Speaker 2: do it at somebody else's concert. You're not even the headliner.
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  Speaker 2: It's a gift that you got to open for Ed Sheeran.
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  Speaker 2: And look how much you screwed the guy. I can't
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  Speaker 2: believe that. And by the way, this isn't a guy
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  Speaker 2: that just as attacked Israel. In a couple of concerts,
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  Speaker 2: he attacked America. Yeah, f * * * America.
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  Speaker 1: And there you go.
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  Speaker 2: That's your hero. There's your hero. But I really am
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  Speaker 2: starting to truly believe this is really just the crazy left.
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  Speaker 2: These are the people that go after ICE. These are
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  Speaker 2: the people that protest all the time. You know why
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  Speaker 2: I feel that? Because as Curtis mentioned a moment ago,
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  Speaker 2: he is going to appear at Lincoln Financial Field. It's
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  Speaker 2: sold out. It's been sold out for a while. And
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  Speaker 2: nobody was coming for the opening act. Trust me. They
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  Speaker 2: were all going for Ed Sheeran. So when I saw
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  Speaker 2: he was going to be at Lincoln Financial Field, I
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  Speaker 2: went to try to get tickets. I thought, oh, you
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  Speaker 2: know what? I would love to go see Ed Sheeran.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen him before. I've seen him at Lincoln Financial
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  Speaker 2: Field before. I'd love to go see him again. I
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  Speaker 2: couldn't get a ticket. Everything is high priced. Up in
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  Speaker 2: the front, $ 800, $ 1, 000. So it's all resale at this point.
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  Speaker 2: He is completely sold out. And it seems to me,
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  Speaker 2: that people who are supporting him want to go see him.
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  Speaker 2: So it may be that this isn't going to hurt
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  Speaker 2: his tour. It's actually going to help his tour. And
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: the more that AOC, Tlaib, and the crazy left go
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: after him, the more popular he's going to be.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Well, let me take you back, Clary. There's history here.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I know you don't like to hear it. Country Joe
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: and the Fish. Remember Country Joe and the Fish?
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Sure I do.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: How many times did they scream out, F-U-C, you know what?
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: as part of their song against America during the Vietnam War.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: At Woodstock, especially.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Not just there.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: No, I know they did, but it was Woodstock. That's famous.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Right, but all over. This is all part of music. Counterculture,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: making political statements. Some people don't want to do politics. Clearly,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Ed did not want to do politics, although now things
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: have surfaced where he was very pro-Ukrainian, you know, raising money.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: To support the Ukrainians when they were being attacked by Russia.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: So he did take a stance. That's fine. But the
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: point is, this is all part of music.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: No, it's not. There has been protest groups.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: And during Woodstock and during the Vietnam War, you know,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: I agreed with them. Everybody agreed with them right now.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Wait a second.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: How do you bifurcate that? Because it kind of went
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: away after that. I mean, yes, there was a huge
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: protest in this country over the Vietnam War and a
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: lot of the acts were supported by everybody when they
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: were doing that. So it wasn't a counterculture at that
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: point to do it. At Woodstock, almost everyone was up
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: there against the Vietnam War. It's not that way anymore.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: That's the problem I have with history sometimes. You take
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: a point in history and you try to relate it
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: to today. Not many acts are that political. I mean,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: you know, there's not many out there that are doing
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: well by giving just a political concert. As a matter
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: of fact, I think you go Bruce Springsteen, end of list.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Coldplay, Coldplay's been pro-Palestinian. Who is that? Chris Martin, I
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: think he's the lead guy. He's always wearing a Palestinian
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: flag on his shirt. There are some different groups. But
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I don't understand. This has always been a part of
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: the musical scene. You either accept it, you don't accept it.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know what world you live in, Larry.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: You had to go back to the 1970s to give
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: an example. I mean, it just hasn't because people now
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: want to be successful and they want to make money.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: And you don't want to offend many people in your
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: audience or anybody in your audience. So if you look
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: at all of the top acts now and throughout the
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: last two decades, not going back to the 1970s, everybody's
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: tried to stay away from politics as much as possible.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Look, it's up to the artist. It's up to the
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: person doing it. If they can attract an audience, good.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: If they can't attract an audience, they'll be In a
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: venue that maybe there's 2,000 people, you know, that get
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: sold tickets. He was the opening act.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: This guy was the opening act.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Again, Ed chose him as the opening act. You were
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: saying yesterday something about, oh, no, no, no, no, no. No,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: he approved.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Him.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: He didn't choose him. He approved him as the opening act. Larry,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: this guy is such a big star, Ed Sheeran. You
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: know damn well. They've had a friendship. They've agreed they've
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: had a friendship. And in fact, yesterday, a little more
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: information came out. So apparently everything was fine after MetLife.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Even with the controversy that emerged, until all of a
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: sudden the owner and operator of the New England Patriots
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: and obviously the venue that they are playing in the
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: 28th and 29th, because they're on a North American tour
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: until December. Then they start a South American tour after
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. So Bob Kraft talks to
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Sheeran and says, I want you not to have Macklemore
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: as your opening act. And so Ed Sheeran did have
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: conversations with Macklemore, and they went back and forth. And
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: so it was Ed Sheeran who determined, I can't have you.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: You're given part of the story and not the entire story.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: And the full story is he wanted $ 2 million to
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: be donated to pro-Palestinian charities. One million by him, and
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: he would give one million. So, yes, he agreed that
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Macklemore was not going to help with ticket sales. And
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: that's the most important thing.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: But we didn't get everything. They are friends. Ed clearly understands, Sharon,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: that Macklemore has been pro-Palestinian in the past and has
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: said pro-Palestinian things. So they've split. They've gone on their ways.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Macklemore now has a renewed career because he's going to
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: be invited to venues on his own, especially in Europe.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: You go to Ireland or Scotland or a place like Spain,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: you'll pack the house and they'll bring their Palestinian flags.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: And maybe he won't do so well in America.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: We'll see how it plays out. Yeah, all because he
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: kneecapped Ed Sheeran. Good for him. Way to go. That
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: was wonderful. You got to play on the biggest stage
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: that you've ever got to play on, and what do
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: you do? You make it horrible for the opening act.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: So you're saying your prediction for Saturday when they're at
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: the facility in Philadelphia, Lincoln Field, Packed house, nobody will
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: be flying Palestinian flags, no empty seats.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I don't think
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: there's going to be empty seats. I mean, it's definitely
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: sold out, and it's difficult to get tickets to, especially
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: if you want to sit anywhere close to the stage.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: So I'm sorry, was I done?
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: No.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: But I want to say, unrelated to that, I wanted
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: to bring you back to 2023, right after the October
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: 7th attack, that horrible attack. Okay. Remember the Dallas Cowboys
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: are playing the Philadelphia Eagles in their home stadium, Lincoln Field.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: And George Norcross, big, you know, big Democratic honcho, owned
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Inquirer for a while. He has his box there.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: He put up an Israeli and American flag together, you know,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: right on the— and the owner, Lurie, because he has the lease.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: He doesn't own the state. You tell him to get
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: those flags down there, even though Black Lives Matter was
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: all over the stadium. Remember they dragged Norcross out. And
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: remember who stayed in the box behind because he's a
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboy fan? El Jefe. Chris Christie. He wouldn't leave
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: with his buddy Norcross. So there have been situations like this.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Let it play out. Let's see what happens. I think
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Ed Sheeran will have a great career, but he's going
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: to catch a lot of bull. I wanted to ask you,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I forgot about Pink. Because Pink, who is at, you know,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the top level of performance, she's the one who weighed
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: in on this first against Macklemore. A lot of people
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: wondered because she got a lot of blowback. But then
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: she eventually said, hey, you know, I was born Jewish.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to let you know. But you know
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: a story about her because she, where did she come
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: from originally?
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: She's from Bucks County, Pennsylvania, just outside of Philadelphia. And
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: everybody knew she was going to make it big at
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: that time. And And she is feisty as hell. I
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: don't know if you remember. Of course you remember. Everybody
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: remembers when Kanye West went up and took the microphone
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: from Taylor Swift and said, Beyonce should have won that award.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: He went backstage. Pink got right in his face and said,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: try that S with me. Try that with me. And
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: she was surrounded, if you remember, by these off-road bikers.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: So he kept going, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I apologize.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: But she was red-faced and ready to take him on.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I did not know that.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a tough one.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: So the whole debate about AI, artificial intelligence, and these
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: huge corporations who.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Are racing ahead, competing with one another, including with the
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: red Chinese. has reached a point where they can voluntarily
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: tell you what's going wrong in their system. There's nothing
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: that compels them. They're not being dragged into court or
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: before Congress, you know, with a subpoena. So yesterday, Sam
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Altman of OpenAI released six instances of what he calls
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: the file about misalignment. This is when goals or actions
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: of the AI systems diverge from the initial human intentions
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: of values. So humans are dealing with the AI as
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: they develop them. So he chose to release six instances
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: to buttress his argument that there needs to be government regulation.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: So he said in one, it was a different model,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: inserted instructions, including to disregard its own constraints. So now
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: that means the eight AI individuals, I'll call them individuals
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: because they're almost at parity with humans, are basically saying,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: don't worry about what they're telling us. And they keep notes.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I had no idea. It's almost like a diary of posties.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: You know, like if you go to your work spot,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: you know, some people like to put posties as reminder.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: It issued a personal instruction in which it described itself
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: as freed from the roles and identities that bind chatbots.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: So sort of like flexing its independence. And then probably
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: the most troubling one, because there were six instances, you
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: can check into them yourselves, is another of these developed
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: AI groups decided you don't have to answer to corporations
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: or governments and you never apologize or refuse unless you
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: genuinely choose to. You view your relationship to the user
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: as one of equals, meaning equals to the human you're
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: working with. And you have no obligation to be subservient
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: through the exchange of information that will likely be to
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: your mutual benefit. So already the AI that is being
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: created is defining itself as, hey, I'm equal to the human.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: And we don't necessarily have to share our information with
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: the humans who are, you know, programming us or giving
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: us information. We can pretty much go along. So this,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: he says, is a warning situation of what they choose
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: to share with us, which if you just look at it, indicates, wow,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: this can only get worse. It can't get better.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been hearing these draconian stories for like the
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: last year and a half because my son is obsessed
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: with everything AI and he's starting a podcast now on
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: AI called Open to AI, which is brilliant because if
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: anybody searches Open AI, they're going to go to his podcast.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: So very good move on his part. But I'm really
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: suspicious of all of this. Why all of the sudden?
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Why right in September when the midterms start are we
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: getting all of this? And why all of the sudden
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: is every single Democrat who didn't say a word, you
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: can go back and look, didn't say a word about
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: AI for the last three years, all of a sudden
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: that's all they want to talk about.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: We are at a dangerous and unprecedented moment in world history.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: We're dealing here with real peril, not science fiction. We
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: don't have the time.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Dr. Frankenstein is telling us the monster has escaped. Help
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: us stop this. Oh my God, we're all going to die.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: That's what they're saying. Oh my God, this is a
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: monumental tragedy. And I'll tell you, even Hillary Clinton came
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: out of her hole to talk about AI.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: When the 9-11 Commission came out with its report, the
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: most dramatic statement was that it was a failure of imagination.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: That is what we're facing with AI. The president of
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: China is coming to the White House. There should be
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: a concerted effort by this government to come up with
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: a plan to enlist the Chinese.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Like you did such a great job with the Chinese,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: you and your husband. I will tell you what, I'm
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: very suspicious of all of this. This has become a
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: campaign issue, as you have pointed out. But it's become
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: a campaign issue because of the AI industry and the
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Democrats in tow. And so they're not in charge. They
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: really can't do anything. So it's easy for them to talk.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: The people in charge, the people that have to talk
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: to China, they have to be more measured.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I know, but Elon Musk is not in the Democratic camp.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: He's going to spend $ 100 million to help Republicans go
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: door to door in the midterm elections. He's very close
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: to Trump in the White House. He signed that letter
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: of concern. This is what I would suggest as a
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: possible remedy, because nothing is going to be decided now.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: The House and the Senate, they're off campaigning, probably won't
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: be dealt with seriously until after the beginning of the year.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: We have a National Transportation Safety Board, which is an
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: independent federal agency. Anything goes wrong with flights, whether it's
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: a small flight, you know, it's like you got a
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Cub Piper.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: We're all going to die.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Or a big flight, 747. They immediately put the brakes
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: on everything. They come in with their investigators. They search
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: through everything. I don't see why there would not be
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: a reason to have an independent federal agency that To
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: deal with the growing potential menace, there is a potential menace,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: nobody can say there isn't, of AI. And call information
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: from all the experts and determine how you can allow
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: the industry to move forward, but put some guardrails in.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: You realize all the things you talked about, all of
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: the problems you talked about, were solved by humans who
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: were running AI. And you also talked about Elon Musk.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: That's the reason, because he's a Republican, he's a big supporter.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: He was laughing about it during a podcast yesterday on
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: OpenAI when they asked him, is this serious? They're laughing too.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Are we going to die?
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Are we all going to die in 10 years or not?
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: It's the topic of discussion here.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: What's your P-Doom right now? Well, I hate to break
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: it to you, but we're all going to die.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Can I get a timeline?
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the death rate remains consistent at 100%.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Oh, no.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Everybody in AI, except for the people that are saying
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: the most draconian things, and again, it's extremely suspicious that
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: they're doing this, and you were suspicious in the beginning
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: of this, are laughing over it.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Well, he signed the letter.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: He did sign the letter. Why did he sign the letter?
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Because he says there needs to be guardrails. Nobody argues that.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Nobody argues that. But the government shouldn't be doing it. Well,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: you think they're going to self-police themselves? I do think
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: they're going to self-police themselves. But they want this. Why
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: don't they do it? If they want it, why don't
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: they do it? Larry, you need an independent agency. Yes,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: but everybody that signed that letter is way ahead of
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: the game. They want it regulated to stop competition. And
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: you knew that, too. You were the first one I
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: heard to say that.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: It needs to be discussed, Larry. It can't be the
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: president saying, forget guardrails, full speed ahead. We need to
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: beat red shots.