Latest / The Big Gay Radio Show / April 28th, 2026 - Ink & Lace Fashion Event
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- 0:36It's time for the Big gay radio show.
- 0:41Welcome to the Big Gay Radio Show.
- 0:44My name is Chris Gorman. I'm your show twink here, joined
- 0:47by the vivacious Vince Suasion. Good morning.
- 0:50And the electric trans queen of radio, Miss Esme Russell.
- 0:55Hello. Hello everybody.
- 0:57How are you guys doing today? I'm a little hungry but I feel
- 1:00great. Good, it's almost lunchtime.
- 1:03I know some people listen to us on their lunch break.
- 1:05And to those people, hope you're enjoying your meal.
- 1:08A lot of people listen to us after we air.
- 1:10Yes, yes. Because I get calls all the time
- 1:13for my friends. Oh, I listened to last week's
- 1:14show. I'm like, you finally listened
- 1:16to it. You got around to it.
- 1:19Got to love streaming. Yeah, it is.
- 1:21I've been, I've been stuck in Facebook jail the entire week.
- 1:25I got banned on Wednesday and I've just been living living
- 1:28life. I'm trying to figure out what is
- 1:31the reason for the ban. I don't know.
- 1:35So on the after show we did talk about salmon ejaculate that is
- 1:43used in skin care products. And I did say that in one of the
- 1:48in the, in the, in the one of the descriptions of the post.
- 1:53So I don't know. I'm going to share on the after
- 1:55show why I think you got banned. It's probably the Speedo pick.
- 1:58And there's I have plenty of reasons and absolutely it's
- 2:01because of the Speedo pick. Oh yeah?
- 2:03Are you kidding me? It's Chris, the Speedo pick.
- 2:07Yeah, 'cause you were, I don't know the things you do, Chris.
- 2:11I I guess you know, I'm I'm you. Have to behave on this show.
- 2:14Like a mother figure type of thing.
- 2:16When I look at you, as soon as I see photos of you and I go,
- 2:19somebody needs to cover up this young man, I'm thinking like a
- 2:25mother, right? Because I look at him because
- 2:27he's so young, right? But he's very mature in one way,
- 2:31but then he's also very young man in another.
- 2:33You know, when you're young, you're kind of crazy.
- 2:35You do wild stuff. And like the other day he called
- 2:38me and I said, after we had a long talk, I said, where are you
- 2:41at? He goes, oh, I'm at cocktails,
- 2:43just drinking, but he sounded completely sober.
- 2:46And you can't. But you know what's funny?
- 2:49I'm glad you said that because I always view him as so like
- 2:53profound and mature and just really has a great head on his
- 2:56shoulders. He does.
- 2:58And then he calls me and he's drunk and like maybe 3 or 4
- 3:01drinks already in and I'm like oh.
- 3:03Way more than that baby. Ohh it's got it gets me I.
- 3:07Appreciate you being honest. So normal to me, right?
- 3:11I would have been Rahul. How you right, you know, but you
- 3:15were just like, oh, yeah, yeah. Cocktails.
- 3:17Just drinking. I only know.
- 3:20Drunk, I'm not a I'm not a I'm not a weird drunk like that
- 3:23unless I'm talking to Vin. I know what it is about Vin, but
- 3:26I go ahead and I I get like, I get like delusions of grandeur.
- 3:30But anyways, he's so passionate. We'll talk, we'll talk about
- 3:33this on the after show. We're joined by two very or
- 3:36three very special people. We're joined by Jesse Harley and
- 3:40Danielle from Incan Lace. Welcome to the studio, guys.
- 3:43Thank you. We're so.
- 3:45Glad to have you guys. Please make sure you guys speak
- 3:48a little bit closer like so. Danielle, you are the creator of
- 3:51Ink and Lace. I am.
- 3:53I am so. What is ink and lace?
- 3:54Ink and Lace is a platform for heavily tattooed models to get a
- 4:00chance to walk in a fashion show that they have always
- 4:05potentially dreamed of doing. Due to the fact that we are
- 4:09usually passed up a lot of the times because of the stigma that
- 4:13is placed against our tattoos that our tattoos would take away
- 4:17from the designs. So I didn't really, that didn't
- 4:21really settle with me too well. So I decided to create the show
- 4:24for women like myself and like Jesse and Harley over here, and
- 4:28to help them either become a little more noticed or do you
- 4:32just give them a chance to do something that they've always
- 4:34wanted to? I love that because honestly,
- 4:36you know, one of the main things that like I'd kind of talked
- 4:39myself out of like the idea of getting tattoos when I was
- 4:42younger was because I had delusions of grandeur again,
- 4:48Vin, I I go ahead and always talk about that, but.
- 4:51Be dreams, you know but. I was like, oh, I might want to
- 4:55be a model someday or I might want to be an actor.
- 4:57So I don't want to go ahead and and get any tattoos.
- 5:01But now, nowadays I just, I don't have the creativity.
- 5:03I don't know what I want anymore.
- 5:05I can't make that decision. But so when it comes to, you
- 5:09know, being in a, you know, fashion show, how do you go
- 5:12ahead and highlight the tattoos? Or do you just primarily focus
- 5:15on the fashion? I try to do a little bit of
- 5:18both, to be quite honest. We try to fit the models and
- 5:22designs that will kind of enhance their tattoos too, as
- 5:28well as the design. I think that certain color
- 5:31schemes and depending on the placement of the tattoos on the
- 5:34models could really bring out a certain dress or a certain Jean
- 5:39outfit, pantsuit, anything like that.
- 5:43It's just all a matter of really taking the time to see who your
- 5:48model is, see where their tattoo placement is, and seeing what's
- 5:51going to match with them. Awesome, so the event is going
- 5:55to be themed Studio 54 Jungle Night.
- 5:58So where did that idea come from?
- 6:00What is the inspiration behind that?
- 6:02So honestly, I used to listen to my parents talk about going to
- 6:06Studio 54 in New York City all the time when they were younger.
- 6:11They used to love going there to dance and to have a good time.
- 6:14And they used to tell me stories that that the people that would
- 6:19attend this club were all walks of life.
- 6:24You could find people from gays, straights, people who are
- 6:29dressed in drag, just all coming together and having a good time
- 6:34and not caring about somebody's identity or who what they, you
- 6:40know, you know what I'm saying? Just.
- 6:42Living life the way. That we should be.
- 6:45And it's an all inclusive thing. And that's what I really loved
- 6:48about it. And I really loved the music
- 6:52around that time, the 80's, the 90s kind of music.
- 6:55Well, the obviously the 80s back then because it was 1979.
- 6:57But I do really love 80s music and I grew up a lot on it with
- 7:01my parents. And just hearing my parents talk
- 7:05about that, really, I really wanted to kind of bring that to
- 7:08life and 80s. Music really didn't take off to
- 7:11like around 8384, like towards the end of the 70s into the
- 7:18early 80s. We're still kind of in the disco
- 7:20era. I was.
- 7:22Born in 89 so like. I was there.
- 7:25Were you at Studio 54? I went to studio. 54 Really.
- 7:29Underage and I stood in line forever and the only reason they
- 7:33let me in was because I was in drag.
- 7:40Yeah, my friends didn't get in and they said, oh, my, we're not
- 7:43going to be. And I, they were underage and
- 7:45they said, are you a girl? You're a boy.
- 7:47I said, I'm a boy. And they said, oh, then you're
- 7:49coming in, let me in. So I I part, I thought I was
- 7:53going to party by myself and I didn't.
- 7:55But I'm going to tell you, back in those days, it was nothing
- 7:57but famous people. Halston was there, the designer.
- 8:01I remember that. And what was that guy that did
- 8:04all the artwork? The Mayor Hall.
- 8:06Warhol. Yeah.
- 8:07Danny Warhol. He was there that night.
- 8:09I remember that, yeah. Wow.
- 8:11Yeah, club kid days. But everybody was just walking
- 8:14around really normal and they had.
- 8:16It was all normalized they. Had trapeze artists and wow,
- 8:20yeah, I do remember very, very well.
- 8:22The show's definitely gonna have plenty of drag performers,
- 8:24that's for sure. That's exactly what I wanted to
- 8:26bring this as well. I went home with some lady had a
- 8:29limo. I don't even know who she was.
- 8:33I had my address in my the address.
- 8:35I was staying out in my pocket. She took me.
- 8:37She took me back. So, yeah, in her limo.
- 8:39Because back then there's just all limos in front of that
- 8:42place. Yeah, I knew it was different.
- 8:45It was definitely different than.
- 8:46That's what I want to bring. I remember getting on the subway
- 8:49and nobody looked at me, You know, here in Tampa, because I
- 8:52lived here in Tampa, when you get on you, when you walk right
- 8:55and drag back in those days here in Tampa, everybody stared at
- 8:58you. In New York, nobody even looks
- 9:00at you. It's like you're just.
- 9:01So normal. Yeah, completely.
- 9:03Normalized so. Something that I really like
- 9:06about the ink and Lace fashion event is that it's partnered
- 9:10with us, an organization that is very near and dear to our
- 9:13hearts, Project No Labels and Emerge New growth.
- 9:17So I want to kind of know how did that partnership start?
- 9:21OK, then you might be able to help.
- 9:23OK, I've I've. Been waiting to like chime in
- 9:26because I love you Danielle. You know I love you.
- 9:29You are my sister to the death like I will warrior with you for
- 9:32the rest of my life. I got the opportunity to meet
- 9:35Danielle through another fashion event that I was hosting and she
- 9:40saw me there and then hired me as the host for ink and lace
- 9:45fashion runway event. Also, if you're listening to
- 9:48this, it is one of the most gorgeous shows that happens in
- 9:53Tampa Bay. OK, I'm talking like, Oh my God,
- 9:56inclusivity. But yeah, you sit there and
- 10:00chill for a second and let me talk you up for a minute.
- 10:02OK, It's good because there are some games.
- 10:05Advertising. Oh, oh, I'm not advertising.
- 10:07No, I'm sharing my experience, OK.
- 10:09I'm sharing my experience because there's as an
- 10:12entertainer in Esme, I'm sure, I'm sure you understand this.
- 10:15There's we, we do this for work. This is our job.
- 10:18This is our profession. We love what we do.
- 10:20And there are places that we show up, where we show up and
- 10:23then we leave, you know? Yeah, and I did that Sunday.
- 10:29Respectfully. I did my job and then I said,
- 10:33OK, well what time is it? It's time to go.
- 10:35Right. Respectfully, you know, Ink and
- 10:38Lace is an event that I actually enjoy as an entertainer that I
- 10:42respectfully will go work at and then also go have fun at.
- 10:47So it's fun to talk about and it's fun to invite people to
- 10:50because I have a great time. So it's going to be on August
- 10:541st. Of course, that's again ink and
- 10:56lace fashion event. So where can people find more
- 10:59information about it? I can find more information on
- 11:02our Facebook. We have a business page, it's
- 11:05called Ink and Lace, the fashion event.
- 11:07You can find all of your questions and information on
- 11:11that page there. We also we do have an Instagram
- 11:16as well, which is ink dot lace .22.
- 11:22The 22 is for the first year. We actually put the show on and
- 11:27you can find more information on that page as well.
- 11:29All right, so Jesse and Harley, you guys are not off the hook.
- 11:33Don't think that I'm going to let you guys.
- 11:35So how did you guys get involved?
- 11:37You guys are obviously models for the event.
- 11:39So what what did you guys start? How did you guys start with us?
- 11:42So I actually met Danielle at another runway show and we just
- 11:47bonded and she reached out to me and was like, hey, I saw your
- 11:50walk, loved your walk. Do you want to be in my fashion
- 11:53show? Honestly, I was like inspired by
- 11:59her and all her work as well, so I was super excited because I
- 12:02think it's so important to highlight tattooed models and
- 12:06give them opportunity to show that we can do it just as good
- 12:10as people without ink. Yes, ma'am.
- 12:14All right. And I met Danielle, her and I
- 12:16worked together a couple years back and she had mentioned
- 12:19something about her show and I just never really paid
- 12:22attention. And then this year when I saw
- 12:24the flyer, I was like, I have got to do this.
- 12:27It is such a body positive thing.
- 12:30Like I've dealt with body image my entire life, dysmorphia.
- 12:35And when I went into that room with all those ladies, I was
- 12:38beaming. I just felt beautiful.
- 12:42And it was really just something that I'm over the moon to be a
- 12:46part of, really. I'm so glad that I was able to
- 12:49have, we are all able to be together right now because
- 12:52Jesse, we were talking earlier about your son and honestly I
- 12:57kind of want to talk about your experience if that's OK.
- 13:00Yeah, absolutely. You said that you had a trans
- 13:03son. Right.
- 13:04I do. I do.
- 13:05He's 22 and lives in Colorado. Oh wow.
- 13:08Wow, so obviously a little bit more friendlier up there than
- 13:12here. Yeah, the trans Very safe.
- 13:14So my question to you is, is sort of how does that experience
- 13:19as a transparent or a parent of a trans person, I should
- 13:23transparent, but how was that experience like shaped you?
- 13:31Oh God, I mean it. I've I've always been an ally of
- 13:34the community and when he came out to me, it was just beautiful
- 13:42the the trust and I've just seen him grow so much as a person, as
- 13:52confidence. I just, it's the most beautiful
- 13:56thing that's happened right before my very eyes.
- 13:58And it's almost, I can't find the words to articulate how
- 14:02moved I was by his transition, his bravery, his courage to be
- 14:07authentic. And so that has taught me to be
- 14:11authentic to myself as well and, you know, really hold true to my
- 14:16morals and the things that are important to me in life.
- 14:19That's powerful. That's very powerful.
- 14:22You know, there's so many parents out there that are kind
- 14:24of they're a little bit not sure of how to, you know, handle
- 14:29having a a trans child. Do you have any advice for those
- 14:32those parents? I say listen to understand, not
- 14:40to respond. Definitely open your ears and
- 14:43just listen. Validate.
- 14:47I, I didn't know what to say. So I, I just listened and it was
- 14:56the most powerful thing I've ever heard.
- 14:58And so that's what I would tell people is just really listen to
- 15:01your kids. You want to be their rock.
- 15:04You do. And if you are, you know, that's
- 15:07pretty big already. I got chills.
- 15:09And you know, if that's incredible, if I were to have a
- 15:12kid, you know, obviously, you know, in my opinion, I would
- 15:14always want to tears. Over here I'm trying all my tik.
- 15:19T.O.K live you can see all the. Hey can I?
- 15:23Share. How can I share why I think this
- 15:26is so powerful? Also the partnership with Inking
- 15:28Lace. Yeah, this is.
- 15:29Thank you so much for sharing that so.
- 15:32Thank you for asking. And being a parent to to such a
- 15:36now, I don't want to say fragile because it's resilience.
- 15:39Trans to trance lives are resilience.
- 15:41So something that I find so powerful about partnering
- 15:45Project No Labels, Pasco and Emerge new growth community with
- 15:48ink and lace is literally this. The stigma of modeling the
- 15:53stigma of beauty goes out the window and the gathering of
- 15:56people that gets included in what is fashion, what is beauty,
- 16:01what is art gets. It's all a gathering in one
- 16:04night and we get to meet all these different people in
- 16:07different walks of life and experience beauty in different
- 16:10ways. That is why Ink and Lace, it's
- 16:12such a freaking fun show. Such a fun show.
- 16:15King is fine. It's such a fun show, it really
- 16:19is. It's such a great time to have.
- 16:21It fills the spirit. I'm excited to see y'all walk
- 16:24genuinely and respectfully. Y'all are tatted.
- 16:26It's so cool. It's so cool.
- 16:28Thank you I'll. Be honest, like and you can't
- 16:30really see it on the on the air, but you guys have some really
- 16:33nice tattoos. But you can on my TikTok live.
- 16:38Esme, do you have any any questions?
- 16:39No tattoos for Esme. No tattoos for.
- 16:41Esme No, no. If I went this, if I went this
- 16:44far without tattooing the Bentley, we're not doing it now.
- 16:48You. Know my mom.
- 16:48Says too, though my mom says the same thing.
- 16:51I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it and I'll tell
- 16:52you why because I'll share with my my mentor on that.
- 16:56You know, Cher, you know, she said to remove many tattoos.
- 16:59Why? Because the skin is starting to
- 17:01change and I don't want, you know, to be in my 7070 year
- 17:07woman with my skin changing and my tattoo.
- 17:10I hear that. Getting that's.
- 17:12All about expression. Because I'm the opposite.
- 17:14I think I'm going to look sick. I can't tell you girl, I'm I
- 17:18don't want to have to wear long sleeves if I don't want to.
- 17:21I hate to be that guy, but you're 65 years old and you're
- 17:24not. It's not sagging yet, so.
- 17:27I know, and by the way, my dad did his sag.
- 17:29My dad, no. You sent me pictures, Yeah, No,
- 17:32if you. Work out too.
- 17:33You can also keep the skin I said tight and it would but.
- 17:37Share, said. Girls just smile, she said.
- 17:39I kept the kept removing them. She's I started removing one and
- 17:42then she's removed a lot of them now.
- 17:44You know, yeah. My mom says don't put bumper
- 17:47stickers on a Lamborghini. Yeah, well, everybody's stupid
- 17:50though. Like my uncle had them.
- 17:52God bless his we're. F1 cars.
- 17:54My yeah. How much F1 car is I respect
- 17:57that they're full of stickers. I.
- 17:58Respect that. My uncle is the only person in
- 18:00our bloodline I think, that had tattoos, but he was AI was just
- 18:03telling Chris he was a political prisoner in Cuba.
- 18:06So he had a lot of tattoos when he was in a concentration camp.
- 18:10But if he was there for 9 years trying to overthrow the
- 18:12government, which is a whole different story about my yeah.
- 18:18My father, my sister, nobody in my family besides my mom I
- 18:22think, and she didn't get a tattoo and tell her so.
- 18:25She was in her late I think 50s to be honest.
- 18:29So Zendaya, you know, Tom Holland's quiet, right?
- 18:32She's got, she doesn't have any tattoos.
- 18:34Zendaya is all, you know, big movie star, right?
- 18:36She has one. She, she, she does have one.
- 18:39So, so does he under his foot. It's a spider underneath his
- 18:43foot. I'll see I have a arm full of
- 18:45spiders. But yeah, she said she recently
- 18:47got her mother to start tattooing, so she's living
- 18:51vicariously through her because, you know, she's an actress and
- 18:54it's very expensive to cover tattoos when you're on set, say,
- 18:58it costs a lot of money. So they avoid not trying to get
- 19:01so many of them. But her moms got full of tattoos
- 19:04now. Well, anyways, so how can you
- 19:07guys go ahead and find more information about Ink and Lace?
- 19:10It's going to be on August 1st, right?
- 19:12Correct, it is going to be on August 1st.
- 19:14I did mention before that we can find it on our Facebook, our
- 19:18Instagram, both ink and lace, the fashion event and then ink
- 19:22dot lace .22 for that as well. Awesome, Miss Esme, what are we
- 19:27talking about on the after show? Oh.
- 19:29My God, we're going to talk about assisted suicide.
- 19:32Oh my God. Well what a great freaking
- 19:35topic. How happy is that?
- 19:37And the reason is really weird. I'll tell you what that story is
- 19:41all about. Also, a Minnesota teacher loses.
- 19:44Well, he loses his job. They're not sure if he was fired
- 19:47or if he stepped away, that that's still questionable, but
- 19:50I'll tell you what happened to him.
- 19:52Also a cat and an Amazon driver. It's a very sad story and I
- 19:57don't like it. And Chris, you're a cat
- 19:59collector. I call Chris the Catwoman, so
- 20:03I'll tell you about it. Makes me sad.
- 20:05I don't like talking about animals, but I got to talk about
- 20:07it. And then I got to talk about
- 20:08these identical twin brothers. That something really bad
- 20:12happened to them and it's just devastating.
- 20:15So that that's and it's a weird thing to happen.
- 20:17Also, we're going to talk about the correspondents dinner.
- 20:20We should do that as soon as we get back.
- 20:22Yeah, definitely. I think the correspondents
- 20:24dinner. I also want to go ahead and talk
- 20:25about the soldier that was involved in the Maduro raid who
- 20:30is being charged with something. We're going to go ahead and find
- 20:33out what that is after the break.
- 20:34But first, let's go ahead and throw it over to Claire Leeson
- 20:36from Project No Labels for our big gay news.
- 20:39Then over to Joe on Joe Anna Grosso for Joe on the go.
- 20:43We'll be right back. I'm Claire Leeson from Project
- 20:49Noli Wilson. This is your LGBTQ plus news
- 20:51from around the country and right here in Tampa Bay in
- 20:54Orlando from WESH. No charges will be filed against
- 20:58six people arrested for using chalk to repaint the Post
- 21:01Memorial Crosswalk. The rainbow crosswalk honored
- 21:03the 49 lives lost in the 2016 Pulse nightclub shooting, but it
- 21:08was removed overnight in August 2025 under a directive requiring
- 21:12roadways to be free of what officials call distractions or
- 21:15political messages. After its removal, protesters
- 21:18used chalk to recreate the rainbow.
- 21:20State Attorney Monique Wherelle says the arrest that followed
- 21:23amounted to selective enforcement, noting that some
- 21:25individuals were detained while others, including public
- 21:28officials, were not. Morrell also said there was no
- 21:31evidence of property damage, calling it a cleaning operation,
- 21:35not a damage remediation, and ultimately declined to file
- 21:38charges. Also in Orlando from Watermark
- 21:40Out News, Anthem Orlando is facing a 30 day suspension
- 21:44impacting its hours of operation following issues tied to a third
- 21:48party security vendor. Owner Mike Visarca says the
- 21:51vendor failed to follow proper protocols on one evening and was
- 21:55immediately terminated. The venue has since brought in a
- 21:58new security company and says safety remains its top priority.
- 22:02Under the suspension, alcohol sales must stop at midnight,
- 22:05followed by a structured closing timeline.
- 22:08Anthem is now working with the city to revise its mitigation
- 22:11plan after previous proposals were denied.
- 22:14In Florida State News, also from Watermark, Governor Ron DeSantis
- 22:18has signed new legislation targeting diversity, equity and
- 22:21inclusion efforts at the local level.
- 22:23The law, said to take effect in January 2027, will prohibit
- 22:26local governments from funding or promoting DEI related
- 22:30initiatives, eliminate inclusion officer roles and give the state
- 22:34authority to remove officials found in violation.
- 22:37Advocates warned the measure could impact community events
- 22:40like Pride, while some local leaders are already signalling
- 22:43legal challenges. And finally, in sports from.
- 22:46ESPNUEFA has issued A6 match ban to Benfica's Gianluca Priestiani
- 22:53for anti-gay conduct during a Champions League match against
- 22:56the Real Madrid. Three of those matches are
- 22:59suspended, meaning he is expected to miss two additional
- 23:02games beyond a provisional suspension already served.
- 23:05The incident followed A confrontation with Vincius
- 23:09Junior, who initially reported racist abuse.
- 23:11However, Cristiani later admitted to using an anti-gay
- 23:15slur instead. Under UEFA rules, both Reese's
- 23:18and anti-gay abuse fall under the same disciplinary framework.
- 23:22Please remember to stay safe and treat yourself and others with
- 23:25kindness. This has been your LGBTQ plus
- 23:27news for the Big Gay radio show. I'm Claire Leeson on 88.5 WMNF
- 23:31Tampa. Hey, hey Tampa Bay, it's Joanna
- 23:38Grosso with Joe on the Go Tampa Bay, your weekly guide to what's
- 23:42happening around the city. Here's what's coming up this
- 23:44week. Starting on Saturday, May 1st
- 23:47and 2nd, Cocktail Saint Pete is hosting a Dirty John's Fairy
- 23:50Tale. It's an interactive show within
- 23:52limited seating, so if you're looking for something a little
- 23:55different and more immersive, this is definitely one to plan
- 23:58ahead for. Then on Sunday, May 3rd, head
- 24:01over to Ybor for the 2020 Sixth Mix Saint Pete Pride at 1920
- 24:06Ybor. This event celebrates
- 24:07creativity, self-expression, and talent within the community as
- 24:11contestants take the stage for a night that's all about
- 24:14individuality and artistry. Looking ahead, on Saturday, May
- 24:1716th, the Equality of Florida St.
- 24:19Pete Gala returns to the Saint Petersburg Coliseum with this
- 24:23year's theme, Rainbow Disco. This annual event brings
- 24:26together community leaders, supporters, and advocates for a
- 24:29night that includes full dinner, awards program, and celebration
- 24:32supporting LGBTQ plus initiatives across the state.
- 24:36For more information behind the scenes and weekly updates,
- 24:39follow along on Instagram at Joe on the Go Tampa Bay.
- 24:43Have a great week, Tampa Bay, and I'll see you out and about.
- 24:53We're on Instagram. Follow Big Gay radio show.
- 24:58Welcome back to the Big Gay Radio Show.
- 25:00My name is Chris Gorman. I'm your show twink here, joined
- 25:03by the vivacious Vince Suasion. Happy National Blueberry Pie
- 25:07Day. OK, I don't really like
- 25:09blueberry pie. I do.
- 25:11It's delicious. That's unfortunate.
- 25:12It's OK. Anyways, we're also joined by
- 25:14the electric Esme Russell and. Blueberries are so good for you,
- 25:18they are. I don't eat a lot of things that
- 25:20are good for me. Oh man, they're so good for you.
- 25:22They're so good. They are so good for you.
- 25:24They're filled with antioxidants for your body.
- 25:27They're great for your heart and everything.
- 25:29It's just it's a great fruit to eat all the time.
- 25:32With ice cream. Oh, that's delicious.
- 25:35You know what I love about it? That when it's frozen and you
- 25:38unfreeze them, they don't lose their power.
- 25:41Yep, they're still good. That's a that's one of those
- 25:44fruits that you can freeze in the freezer.
- 25:46I know I started a problem, I'm sorry.
- 25:48Well we also, we've got a message from Brian Hinkson, a
- 25:51specific individual from the show.
- 25:55He's got 5 tattoos and wanted to say that he agrees with us on
- 25:59the stigma about it and that all those his, that all of his
- 26:04tattoos are sentimental and that they mean something to him, but
- 26:08of course is art as well. We're also joined by Jesse
- 26:12Harley and Danielle from Ink and Lace.
- 26:15Thank you guys for joining us. And I wanted to go ahead and,
- 26:19and give a special shout out to Brian because he guys, he helped
- 26:22you guys with your, your visuals.
- 26:24He certainly did. He really, really did.
- 26:26I was so happy with how the flyer turned out.
- 26:30It couldn't have turned out any better.
- 26:32I mean, he from the color scheme to the grids to the throwing
- 26:37back into the like him actually taking the time out to like
- 26:40research and look up and see how to, you know, kind of like take
- 26:44inspiration from other 80s artists and things like that.
- 26:48One of his inspirations was he told me was Prince and that that
- 26:51logo was, was amazing. I love retro.
- 26:54It was very retro. I I love it.
- 26:57He did great, Brian. Hankston.
- 26:59Thank you him again and again. Well, I, I want to go ahead and
- 27:03again, special shout out to Ink and Lace.
- 27:06It's going to be on August 1st. If you missed our the first part
- 27:09of our interview, you can always go ahead and listen online at
- 27:12wmnf.org or we also got the big Gay after show and the big Gay
- 27:17radio show streaming on all streaming platforms as well.
- 27:22So that's all there and everything.
- 27:24There's also going to be a a karaoke fundraiser event at the
- 27:28Garage on Central on July 1st for Ink and Lace.
- 27:31That's Danielle's going to be there.
- 27:33I'm going to be there. That's going to be a great time,
- 27:35too. Fun, fun, fun.
- 27:37Well, Miss Esme, what's up with the shooting?
- 27:41So look, I got on social media right after it happened, you
- 27:46know, the correspondents dinner shooting.
- 27:50And what really shocked me wasn't the information about the
- 27:53shooting, but how many people on my feet.
- 27:57And I have 22,000 people just on my feet alone believe that it
- 28:02was fake. That didn't happen.
- 28:06And I'm going to say this in defense of the I can't believe
- 28:09I'm saying this in defense of the Trump administration.
- 28:12Please. Put on your coats.
- 28:17Pause. No, but I don't believe that it
- 28:20was. I believe that that was an
- 28:22active shooter. I really believe that.
- 28:24What I also believe is that he is a show person.
- 28:28He's a theater person, and he took advantage of that moment.
- 28:32He said, oh, wait a minute, we got a shooter.
- 28:34This is the perfect opportunity to connect us with the ballroom
- 28:38so I can get my ballroom. If this judge is blocking.
- 28:40You see what I'm saying? He thought quickly on his feet.
- 28:45I just don't believe it was fake.
- 28:47Now, there's been a couple of other shootings with him that
- 28:50I'm not. I'm not going to say they were
- 28:51fake, but they look very suspicious.
- 28:55I'm just saying, like the one with the flag dropped into
- 28:57position and his trembling hand came up and the blood you.
- 29:02Mean his intact. Ear and the blood on the ear
- 29:04that it's just the blood on the ear that he said it was
- 29:07completely destroyed and now that ear is perfect so.
- 29:11'Cause it's regenerated like a lizard.
- 29:14Apparently he can regenerate, so that one may be suspicious.
- 29:17But this one, this one is definitely, you know, and the
- 29:22guy, the guy he doesn't lean, I, I wouldn't looked at his
- 29:26California registration information.
- 29:29So he doesn't lean right or left, but he did he, he doesn't,
- 29:33he's not registered on either one to Republican or Democrat,
- 29:36but he did donate to the, to the Democratic Party like 3 or 4 *
- 29:4225 dollar donations. So he probably, I'm going to say
- 29:45leans left, you know, but he said some things on and why
- 29:49would you? The other question is I would
- 29:51ask ask this to Chris because Chris will probably have a
- 29:53better answer for me. Why?
- 29:55If you're going to commit a crime like that, which is that
- 29:58is a crime, OK, even even just say it out loud should be a
- 30:02crime. I believe it is.
- 30:04Why would you write a manifesto? What do you?
- 30:08What do you? What's that?
- 30:10I don't know why you think I would be the person for that.
- 30:13Yeah, because you're smart. I mean, the reason why I, I
- 30:19would think would be that if he was successful, then you know,
- 30:24he can get it out there. But also, I think that he
- 30:28probably was going, he thought might have thought that he was
- 30:31going to get killed in it. So I and honestly, it's all
- 30:37speculation. You can't really go ahead and
- 30:39and you know, go either way. I think he didn't think he was
- 30:42going to make it because they said that he they, they first
- 30:45said when they did the interviews right after it that
- 30:48he was tackled. Not true.
- 30:50So one of the reporters, several reporters that were there said
- 30:52that when he was told to stop, he literally stopped running and
- 30:57he dropped to his knees and he dumped the the pistol.
- 31:01So he wasn't going to go. He he kind of knew he wasn't
- 31:04going to make it. I I don't understand what he was
- 31:06trying to do. It was like he was never near
- 31:09the president by the way, he never got near him.
- 31:11They could hear the shots because they were in the
- 31:14ballroom, you know what I mean? But by the way, some added step
- 31:19to it, what about all the reporters stealing the wine off
- 31:23the table? No, OK honestly.
- 31:27So if I ever got invited to a place, you absolutely will see
- 31:30me do that. See honestly, I have precedent.
- 31:34I went to the Rays game. They had the the all you can
- 31:37drink all you can eat things. And I I went ham.
- 31:41I think I had 6 hot dogs. I had like 8 glasses of wine.
- 31:44I was wasted. I saw.
- 31:46This one lady, this blonde lady which she clearly is visible on
- 31:50camera, sticking bottles in her purse.
- 31:53She. Was shoving new shoving,
- 31:56literally shoving bottles of wine into I mean, and that, you
- 32:00know, that's not cheap wine they're using there.
- 32:02By the way, the man of the hour was the the white guy, older man
- 32:06probably about, I'm going to say 65, you know, around there.
- 32:11He's sitting there eating his Cobb salad very slowly, mind
- 32:15you. They're, they're screaming.
- 32:17Everybody body underneath the tables, active shooter, active
- 32:20shooter, everybody's going down. You can see all the faces of
- 32:23people trembling. He's slowly eating a salad,
- 32:27looking at the stage, going. I wonder what's next.
- 32:29I wonder who comes out on the stage?
- 32:31So what really, you know, the other part of it was the
- 32:35aftermath involving a, a video that kind of went viral was with
- 32:40Erica Kirk and she she was screaming that she just wanted
- 32:44to go home. And I hate to be that guy, but
- 32:49Can you imagine how the kids of that are involved in school
- 32:53shootings feel every single time that there's a school shooting?
- 32:58Great point. I I I'm so glad that the
- 33:02Republican Party is finally experiencing what these children
- 33:07have been experiencing for decades now.
- 33:10Thoughts and prayers. Thoughts.
- 33:12And freaking. So you made a lot of fireworks
- 33:15together. I think most of you in here, how
- 33:18old are you? You're very young.
- 33:19How old are you? So most of you in here have
- 33:24lived through the era of active drills at school.
- 33:26I never went. I didn't have it.
- 33:28The only drills we did were fire drills.
- 33:30I say I've only done fire drills much so.
- 33:32You never did. That I did shooter drill.
- 33:34But I know Chris did. Them oh, I got I.
- 33:35Regular active. So I went to.
- 33:37School of shooter drills. I went to school in New York.
- 33:40And I also went to school in Connecticut when I was younger
- 33:43and in New York and in Connecticut, we had to do active
- 33:46shooter drills and we had to do bomb drills and.
- 33:48It was just crazy. I grew up in South Georgia, so
- 33:51we're not very progressive, I would say, yeah.
- 33:55Drills are kind of sadly, they're traumatizing, but
- 33:58important. The drill itself.
- 34:00Well, it was like somebody was like on campus that we had to
- 34:02make sure that we were like tucked away, quiet, like on your
- 34:05hands and knees, kind of like like almost out of sight as much
- 34:09as possible so that if they were to look into the doors, they
- 34:12didn't see anybody and you were as close to the grounded
- 34:15potentially. Did that for tornadoes, yeah.
- 34:17That too. We did it, yeah.
- 34:18Weather we were just. Like talking about.
- 34:20Yeah, we did it. We did it for both.
- 34:21Listen. I'm just gonna say this because
- 34:23Patricia Heaton, by the way, the actress, she said that she is
- 34:27asking people on the left to lower the rhetoric against not
- 34:31just the president, but the administration.
- 34:34I agree with her 100%. Surprisingly, even though I know
- 34:37that she is MAGA, I still agree with her.
- 34:40We all need to lower the temperature, but we can start
- 34:44from the very top, can't we? We can.
- 34:48Start, we can start from the people that we look forward to
- 34:52for guidance. OK.
- 34:53When you go on TV and you say I'm going to blow up that whole
- 34:56building, you know, I'm going to blow him out of the world.
- 34:59I mean, that's not the kind of things you want to hear from
- 35:02your president. You know what I'm saying?
- 35:05Listen, what happened? Was it Saturday night?
- 35:07I think it was Friday night or Saturday.
- 35:09Saturday night. It was terrible and it shouldn't
- 35:11happen. We shouldn't be acting like
- 35:13that. That's just, it's just
- 35:14unacceptable behavior to, you know, to want to destroy, hurt
- 35:18somebody or if you don't like someone, vote them out.
- 35:21That's what we do in the United States of America.
- 35:23We don't load up guns and go hurt somebody, you know, and,
- 35:27and we don't scare people like that.
- 35:28I don't like that part of scaring people.
- 35:30You know, 'cause there was some people like the Cobb salad man.
- 35:34He didn't care. But there was a lot of people
- 35:36there that were scared. There's, you know, that brought
- 35:38to my attention to on Facebook, there's a video that's going
- 35:42around of the of different angles of people being escorted
- 35:47out of the room. Yeah.
- 35:48And they were protecting the men and leaving their wives.
- 35:53I. Saw that.
- 35:54Yeah, that is 100% true, Yeah. My mouth.
- 35:56Literally was shaking under a table while his wife was holding
- 36:00hands with another man. I saw that.
- 36:03Art. FBI Director.
- 36:04Reportedly, yeah. And the, and the suspect, they
- 36:08took Kennedy out. They they covered him up and,
- 36:11and, and the wife, Kennedy's wife got left behind.
- 36:14She was running after them. So I kind of want to go around
- 36:16the room and get your guys opinion on this.
- 36:18Danielle, what's your what's your team?
- 36:20A room full of confident women. Let's go full of confident.
- 36:24Women my opinion on as far as. As a correspondent's dinner of
- 36:28the shooting, what? What do you feel and what are
- 36:31you thinking? Look, I usually, I tried to kind
- 36:35of stay away from a lot of the news and things like that
- 36:39because right now this world is scary and there's a lot of bad
- 36:42things happening. And especially something like
- 36:44that where, you know, we, you know, we rely on, you know,
- 36:50protection, security, things like that, and to have them
- 36:55protect the men instead of the women, things like that.
- 36:57And I just, it upsets me. So I really try to say.
- 37:02No, I completely get it. Yeah, no, absolutely.
- 37:05I can't look bad on camera. I try to, I don't want to try to
- 37:08like ignore any of it, like no, but I just I can't.
- 37:14So that is such a good thing to bring up.
- 37:17And I'm going to be honest because you know, they're,
- 37:19they're always as everybody has to have a limit.
- 37:22You know, there's only so much that you can intake and right
- 37:25now with the media, every single thing is breaking news, breaking
- 37:29news and you must need to know so and, and honestly, it's a
- 37:34really healthy thing to especially have those topics
- 37:37that you understand. You kind of need to take a step
- 37:40back. For me, it's honestly the school
- 37:42shooting situation. On the other hand, you know, the
- 37:46USF, the, the two students that were the two doctorate students
- 37:51that went missing. I've, I've tried to limit as
- 37:54much information that I get about that because I really need
- 37:57to focus on finals. I'm really stressed out in terms
- 38:00of my own stuff, but that's from my own campus.
- 38:04Yeah. So I.
- 38:05Know myself, I'll get really sucked into things like that and
- 38:07then it consumes me and then I'm not in a good mental space.
- 38:10So I'm like, yeah, I really do have to take a step back from
- 38:14media and news and all. That's such a valid opinion, and
- 38:19I think that more people really need to do that because I think
- 38:21a lot of people run themselves mad just constantly thinking of
- 38:25the media and constantly thinking about social media and
- 38:29all the trends and all the things that it says.
- 38:30What's Donald Trump said? What's Hillary Clinton said?
- 38:32What's this person said? I felt guilty to that.
- 38:35I definitely felt guilty to that.
- 38:37I when I saw that as a brother, as someone who has sisters, as
- 38:42someone who has a profound respect for women, I was
- 38:46enraged. When I saw that I was disgusted.
- 38:48I was enraged. And I was like, I'm falling into
- 38:51the. Melania, even Melania was, was
- 38:54on the floor and Trump was taken out before she was.
- 38:57That's the. Conservative traditional way it
- 38:59was. Just weird.
- 39:00It was just really weird, you know?
- 39:02Disgusted. It was, it was just this.
- 39:04It's on camera. You can see the tape.
- 39:06You can see it. It's not like, Oh well, they're
- 39:08making it up. You can see it and it's all over
- 39:10the Internet. It's all over the Internet.
- 39:12It's. Totally what?
- 39:13What's your perspective on this whole thing?
- 39:15I want to give you the floor. Yeah, so for me, it's just, I
- 39:19guess I obviously I'm kind of from the realm of like
- 39:23conspiracy theorists. So like, I'm not like I don't
- 39:25vote anything out, I would say. But if it wasn't a setup,
- 39:31obviously, like I do have my dad in the back of my head being
- 39:33like the logical, you know, if they're if it's not the
- 39:37conspiracy theory, like that's all debunked everything, then
- 39:40they should have better security.
- 39:42Well then the correspondence dinner never does exactly.
- 39:45This is what and, and you know, it's not for the president.
- 39:49The president is a guest there. So when he says we need to do
- 39:52this in the ballroom, the the correspondents dinner is for the
- 39:56people that work in the journalism field, right?
- 39:59So he's there as a guest. So you need to bring your own
- 40:02security. Exactly.
- 40:03You know what I'm saying so well.
- 40:05The Secret Service did their job.
- 40:06I mean, the guy didn't. He didn't kill anybody.
- 40:09No, he shot a Secret Service agent.
- 40:11But the Secret Service agent's fine.
- 40:13Like shootings and threats happen all the time to
- 40:16presidents and they just make they see as a like opportunity
- 40:19to take advantage of it too, and it doesn't.
- 40:21It's sad for the people. There were 6.
- 40:23Attempts, I think, on Obama's life during his presidency and.
- 40:26He didn't make a show about you. Never hear about.
- 40:28Him. No, just never hear about him.
- 40:30Not one. Yeah, you just don't hear about
- 40:31them. It's like it never happened.
- 40:32And also speaking about like limiting yourself, I think it's
- 40:35also just really important to know who you are as a person and
- 40:38what like, like we were saying your limit, but also not letting
- 40:42people that just genuinely don't care to use that as an excuse
- 40:45not to be involved and be like, oh, I'm just not political.
- 40:48I think that also is something to think about because you can't
- 40:51always have your head in the sand because it does, you know,
- 40:54people say I'm not political. I'm like, well, politics do you
- 40:56then? Yes, because, you know,
- 40:58politics, everything. Yeah, everything is politics.
- 41:01Everywhere, unfortunately. Everything is politics.
- 41:03Ground yourself and discern. Everything you eat, everything
- 41:06you consume where your medical. Doses your job you have to have
- 41:10just like you have to have everything in there.
- 41:12Yeah, I want to pull. Back out.
- 41:13You know, sometimes it sounds a little bit like the the seagulls
- 41:16from Finding Nemo. Because I'll hear Vince say
- 41:20every everything politics and then as May says everything
- 41:23politics, everything politics, everything politics and says it
- 41:25like 5 times. I'm like mine, mine mine like
- 41:30y'all. We heard y'all the first time.
- 41:33By the way, everything is politics and we're gonna
- 41:37continue to stay. And I agree, do not, do not get
- 41:39me wrong, I I completely agree as a political science major, I
- 41:43completely agree everything. But you know, no need to people.
- 41:46Say I'm not political. I always go, God, yeah, you are
- 41:50political. Your breath, every breath you
- 41:52take out. Somebody decided how clean the
- 41:55air is gonna be pretty. If you're not at the table
- 41:56eating, you're gonna be eating. My that's.
- 41:58True. That's I love that that's.
- 42:00Actually a really good point. It's really quick before.
- 42:03We keep going, I have some people on my TikTok live asking
- 42:06how they can and listen to this after.
- 42:08So it's on Spotify and Apple podcast.
- 42:10They're also on WMNF dot. Org cool, awesome.
- 42:13Thank you. Also, you know, the something
- 42:16that I also like really wanted to go ahead and and bring up is
- 42:20the fact that if you wanted to go ahead and have a higher
- 42:24security, you could have done it.
- 42:27He he knows how many times has had how many times he had
- 42:32attempts on his life. He.
- 42:34Literally had multiple times already so you would think that
- 42:38he would be able to invite. Iranian government has a like a
- 42:43hit. Out on him.
- 42:44On a bounty, Yeah. Hello.
- 42:46Well, there was even a clip of a Fox News host joking around
- 42:50about the fact that there was security issues.
- 42:53So I, I, it's really interesting to go ahead and sit back and be
- 42:59like, oh, how could somebody go ahead and get in here like this?
- 43:04It's pretty freaking easy. They're saving.
- 43:06He didn't. Walk through the door yeah, he
- 43:08got tackled. They did do their job when it
- 43:10happened, but exactly he literally walked in he.
- 43:13Literally walked in through the door.
- 43:14He literally just walked into the.
- 43:16Door we had to be buzzed in well.
- 43:17Just so you know, he. You know what I mean?
- 43:18Just so you know, he was staying in the.
- 43:20Place has higher security than he was.
- 43:22A guest, he was a guest in the hotel.
- 43:24So I think the mark that they missed was they didn't check the
- 43:27people that were staying in the hotel or if they did, they
- 43:29didn't. Do a good Duh.
- 43:31I mean, yes, I would have said who is staying at?
- 43:33This thing you should. I want to see who's staying in
- 43:35the hotel. All right, moving on.
- 43:37Moving on. So Governor DeSantis has
- 43:40unveiled some new congressional maps that would give the GOP an
- 43:44extra 4 seats. Esme, I kind of want to go ahead
- 43:48and get your perspective before I get mine.
- 43:51It's going to backfire. Yep, It always does all these
- 43:54stunts whenever you try to cheat, and that's cheating.
- 43:58That is cheating. You can call it whatever you
- 44:01like. No matter what political party
- 44:02you're on, it always is going to backfire.
- 44:05That's all I got to say about it.
- 44:06So they can go ahead. They can go ahead and do it.
- 44:08It's not. I'm telling you, when people are
- 44:10ready to vote, they're going to vote with their conscience.
- 44:12People right now, the food's too expensive, gasoline is too
- 44:15expensive, Healthcare is too expensive, rent is too
- 44:18expensive. We were all promised that all
- 44:20these things would go down. Have they gone down?
- 44:23They've gone up. So, you know, you can do
- 44:27whatever. What do you want to do,
- 44:28DeSantis? I'm just telling you, these
- 44:29folks are going to vote against you straight across the board.
- 44:33I just don't. I don't think it's going to.
- 44:34I don't think it's going to win. And you know, the Democrats are
- 44:36not playing either. They're doing their own version.
- 44:38It's, I guess they're cheating, too.
- 44:40Everybody's trying to cheat. I think that it is a very much a
- 44:45tit for tat situation. You know, it's and I really wish
- 44:50that we would go ahead and have, you know, no gerrymandering.
- 44:53I wish that the entirety of the congressional, you know, map
- 44:58should be go ahead and be fair. But if?
- 45:01One group Texas, is going to go ahead and act as if they can go
- 45:07ahead and cheat then, and it's legal, then let's do the legal
- 45:12cheating. And honestly, if it's legal, it
- 45:15ain't cheating. You're right, just not cheating
- 45:18like the laws protecting them. And so, and honestly, it all all
- 45:24goes down to the Supreme Court, all goes down to the Supreme
- 45:26Court and it goes down to this Florida Supreme Court as well
- 45:28because it's part of the Florida Constitution that it, you know,
- 45:32there is a fair delegation. I believe that that's within
- 45:36there. So we'll see.
- 45:39We will definitely see. Esme, what's the team?
- 45:41So a physically healthy 56 year old woman dies by assisted
- 45:46suicide. So she's from the UK.
- 45:48Her son had died a few years ago and she could not bear to live
- 45:54with the thought of him being gone.
- 45:56It's her only son. So what did she do?
- 45:58She went to the UK and asked them to let her die and they
- 46:01said they could not help her with assisted suicide.
- 46:03She didn't want to do it herself.
- 46:05I guess she didn't want to do it that way.
- 46:07So maybe because she was scared, I don't know.
- 46:10So she, so she paid 13,000, excuse me, $13,500 in
- 46:16Switzerland and I guess they used injections or whatever and
- 46:19they put her to sleep and she died.
- 46:21She was perfectly healthy. Nothing wrong with her.
- 46:24The only prop and she signed all the documents saying I'm upset.
- 46:27They call it a sane suicide. So you're completely aware that
- 46:31this is what you, the decision you've made and it's totally
- 46:34legal in Switzerland, which, you know, so I'm just gonna ask
- 46:37everybody, what do you think about that?
- 46:39I'm Oh yeah, your religious stuff.
- 46:42Kick. Kick kicks in right.
- 46:44Why? Why did she decide to do that?
- 46:47What was the reasoning her? Son passed away her.
- 46:49Son passed away, she felt like she couldn't go on anymore.
- 46:53And if that was your only son, I mean, I guess it really depends
- 46:57on what headspace that you're in there.
- 46:59Yeah, I know. I'm on the fence about it.
- 47:01Really, I am too. As a I have suicide in my family
- 47:04so I feel really deeply and strong about it but I also feel
- 47:09I I just don't know like if she lost her son are there not other
- 47:12people that love her? Because I think suicide is
- 47:15extremely selfish. I don't think it's.
- 47:19About that, that's what I make up in my.
- 47:21Head, I can't say. I get it.
- 47:24It's tough, she. Has family, they didn't want her
- 47:27to do it, but she said she couldn't live without him.
- 47:30Just she was sound mind and I was excited about.
- 47:34She might be quote UN quote, sound mind at that time, but
- 47:37like, think about how much pain she's in.
- 47:39Like do you think that she could have hurt others or could have
- 47:41it could have been a worse situation.
- 47:43So it's like, I mean, maybe that's her way.
- 47:46I don't know. That's her way of coping.
- 47:48So I was, you know, obviously I'm transgender and it's every
- 47:50time I say this, it's always a controversial to some people,
- 47:54but I'm a person of faith, You know, my family raised me in the
- 47:58church. So I'm thinking to myself, this
- 48:01is against God. I mean, we can do some things
- 48:05that are against God and it can be worked out.
- 48:07I always say, but it's, it's a disruption, my sacred life that
- 48:14God has given me the breath of life to exist in this world.
- 48:17It's a privilege to be alive. I don't know.
- 48:19I don't know if I I don't know if I have the I don't know if I
- 48:22have the bravery to interrupt what God has deemed his will,
- 48:27which is my purchase, my brain. That's how I see it, You know,
- 48:30again, that's my religious belief.
- 48:32So. Yeah, I was gonna say that's
- 48:33your religious belief. You're not, not your.
- 48:36Unfortunately, not every person has the same morals, or
- 48:40unfortunate as that is because there's a lot of bad people out
- 48:43there. Anyways, we got a text message
- 48:44from somebody that I kind of want to go ahead and address.
- 48:48It said that the shooter may not have shot the Secret Service.
- 48:52He hasn't been charged with shooting anybody.
- 48:55The charges that he is currently facing right now are attempted
- 49:02assassination of the president, Interstate transportation of a
- 49:05firearm and ammunition with intent to commit a felony, and
- 49:09discharge of a firearm during a crime of violence.
- 49:12So he has not been charged with any assault.
- 49:14He did shoot at a Secret Service agent, but he didn't hit him.
- 49:18He may not have hit him. He.
- 49:19Did not hit him. He did not.
- 49:21Did not. Well, it's so friendly Fire.
- 49:23Yeah, that's what I. Was thinking.
- 49:27Chris, there's no such thing. Well, maybe.
- 49:30Maybe a war. There's probably if you come
- 49:34barely to a hotel with a gun that's not friendly fire.
- 49:38Well, no, I was talking about the, the school, the the, the,
- 49:40the, the shooters. Yeah.
- 49:41Next to me, the Secret Service. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, those guys,
- 49:44man, they risked their lives and God bless them.
- 49:46You know, I'm I appreciate every I.
- 49:48Think we got time for one more topic, but I want to go out and
- 49:51take this one. So no charges will be filed
- 49:54against six people who are arrested when they went ahead
- 49:59and shocked the mural outside of the Pulse crosswalk.
- 50:03All right, Pulse shooting so very much a huge win.
- 50:08It seemed like from from the the the, I guess prosecution said
- 50:13that there was no X me. I have it written down because I
- 50:18don't want to go ahead and get this wrong.
- 50:20They said that the claims of damage didn't hold up because
- 50:23the chalk was water soluble and could go ahead and it could just
- 50:28be cleaned off. And some, and apparently, you
- 50:33know, some of the some of the those who were arrested had lost
- 50:36job interviews and job opportunities while the cases
- 50:39were pending just for standing a street, just for talking a
- 50:44street. So this is the, this is the
- 50:46stuff that we are going ahead and focusing on.
- 50:49It's petty. It's petty bullcrap.
- 50:51It's annoying. People right here, there are
- 50:55people that can't even feed their kids.
- 50:57Exactly. I mean, I would rather go ahead
- 51:00and have all of this effort go towards, I don't know, you know,
- 51:04helping attack the insurance industry and the amount of, you
- 51:08know, price gouging that they've been.
- 51:10Doing let's focus our energies here, people.
- 51:12Let's. Focus on something that actually
- 51:14you know. Oh, I don't know, like mental
- 51:16health? Yeah, mental health is another.
- 51:19One the. Reason polls that happened was
- 51:22hate and mental health. Focus on that.
- 51:24I don't know. I also want to go ahead and we
- 51:26got another message that said at least the Democratic states are
- 51:30asking voters to vote about redistricting changes, correct?
- 51:35Very much so. That's great.
- 51:37True. So I mean, you know, one side's
- 51:40being a little bit more, you know, and.
- 51:41One side is asking the people to decide.
- 51:44One more one. Little people share which side,
- 51:47right? Yeah, the democracy.
- 51:50Hello. How surprising.
- 51:51Right. What a crazy concept.
- 51:53There's people that don't think we live in a democracy.
- 51:55I want to be an American. They don't seem to understand
- 51:58we're. In a Democratic Republic.
- 51:59That we live in a Democratic Republic.
- 52:00So it is a democracy. It is both a Republic and a
- 52:04democracy at the same time. And they, they don't cancel each
- 52:07other out there. They work to together.
- 52:09It's just crazy. I don't know.
- 52:11I think it has to do with the fact that people don't trust the
- 52:13government to be just. Well, if we didn't have so much
- 52:17reason. Can I be a boy and a girl at the
- 52:19same time We. Wouldn't have this issue.
- 52:21Anyways, Anyways, anyways, anyways, anyways I want to go
- 52:24ahead and once again promote ink and lace a little bit more.
- 52:28So where can people find more information, Danielle?
- 52:31Again, people can find more information on our Facebook
- 52:35page, Ink and Lace, the fashion event.
- 52:37They can also find more information on our Instagram at
- 52:40ink dot lace .22. You can also find information
- 52:45about Ink and Lace's event through Project No Labels and
- 52:49Emerge New Growth Communities Facebook and Instagram.
- 52:51Perfect. And where can people find you
- 52:53guys all on social media? I'm just a normal person.
- 53:00I'm not. I'm much of A social media gal.
- 53:02I just got Instagram for the first time and I have like 7
- 53:05followers. My Instagram is Jay the fish
- 53:10sleigh 'cause I used to fish. Hey, I'm Florida Turtle.
- 53:17I like it. I like.
- 53:19It I am on social media, that is my everything.
- 53:22So whatever. I am miss Rebel Visions on
- 53:26Instagram. Awesome.
- 53:27And Danielle? I am this sounds fun.
- 53:32I am Red Widow 1989 on Instagram yes, I mean I do.
- 53:38I don't have a arm full of spider tattoos for nothing, you
- 53:41know, so. Well, we're going to go ahead
- 53:43and go into the after show. I am not what are.
- 53:46We going to go ahead and talk about Miss Esme real quick.
- 53:49We got, we got less time. I am not a normal person.
- 53:53What are we talking about? So we're going to finish those
- 53:56stories of cat that I told you with the Amazon driver.
- 53:58We'll talk about that. The twin brothers also, we're
- 54:01going to talk about Melania and Donald Trump are asking Jimmy
- 54:04Kimmel to do something. I'm going to tell you where they
- 54:06are they're at. I'm so tired of them, man.
- 54:08God, I'm so tired anyway. And a party balloon causes so
- 54:12much damage in Georgia, it's made history.
- 54:16A party. Balloon.
- 54:17A party balloon. You're going to be shocked at
- 54:21what this balloon is done. Literally.
- 54:23Well, we got all that and more coming up on the Big Gay After
- 54:26Show on all streaming platforms at five, 5:00 PM.
- 54:29We hope you have a wonderful rest of your afternoon.
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- 54:42Show. Bye.
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