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Braves sign Verdugo, Jose Trevino's Reds extension, Ranking MLB superstars · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: This is why people should watch the postseason, and this
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  Speaker 1: is why teams should push to get in. How can
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  Speaker 1: we beat the Guardians? They have claw set, he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: come in at the end of the game.
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  Speaker 2: And what Friday or some of you call it Friday.
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  Speaker 3: We haven't seen each other in a while, so we've.
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  Speaker 2: Got Dale and what's the name of the other dude?
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  Speaker 1: Don't touch my drum set? Yeah, why do I forget
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  Speaker 1: his name?
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  Speaker 2: We're all together and Jack exactly curly curly, three stooges,
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  Speaker 2: So we're all here together. And this is a weird
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  Speaker 2: day too, because it's the first time we haven't had
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  Speaker 2: a spring training show. In a minute, we're done tours over.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get I mean, I'm gonna just totally ambush it here.
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  Speaker 1: Let's give an absolute shout out to the crew that
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  Speaker 1: was doing Florida and Azy, like my guy, Mark needs
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  Speaker 1: a nap, Jared needs a nap. To Claudia, she's fine,
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  Speaker 1: she always wakes up early. But there was there was
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  Speaker 1: pre taping, there was set up breakdown, there was sixteen
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  Speaker 1: different interns out there. Mark's back is wretched. So if
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  Speaker 1: anybody knows like a hand and stone massage.
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  Speaker 4: Mar usually have Mark, just like just like when I
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  Speaker 4: can't stop coughing this time of the year from Mark
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  Speaker 4: mine hopefully past.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing is as habitual as you're coughing this time.
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  Speaker 2: We cough the Toms River cough. Always there. March twenty first,
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  Speaker 2: Always there for you. Happy birthday to my dad. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, today too, oh nice? And you're like bakes eleven.
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  Speaker 1: Damn we got no cake. I mean, I love cake.
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  Speaker 2: We're the cake. I'll read one comment that I found
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube. I had to dig far and why I'm kidding,
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  Speaker 2: but Jay on YouTube just said killing it with the
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  Speaker 2: shows of each camp, it's so cool to hear from
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  Speaker 2: star players and relievers that I've never even heard of.
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  Speaker 2: So for some of you that think we're too negative,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes sorry for being real. And sometimes you're watching Disney
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  Speaker 2: level or just everything's perfect baseball content. That's not us.
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  Speaker 2: But at the same time, we do freaking love the game,
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  Speaker 2: and we will talk to the superstar and we will
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  Speaker 2: talk to the twenty six man on the roster and
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  Speaker 2: enjoy both conversations equally. Tell me another show that does
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  Speaker 2: that every single day. So just to give a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of a.
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  Speaker 4: Lone and it's not even hay, and it's just keeping
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  Speaker 4: a real idea. We're not here to ambush somebody. That's
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  Speaker 4: the last thing we want to do. We're here to
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  Speaker 4: uplift but in form at the same time, Yes, you
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  Speaker 4: got to let him know keeping it a hundred with
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  Speaker 4: the catch like one hundred were keeping it a hunding
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  Speaker 4: for real.
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  Speaker 2: We're excited about the season which starts for everyone else
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  Speaker 2: next week, and we still have moves that are being made.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, that's how our game works these days, so
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  Speaker 2: let's charge them out, all right. So some people were saying,
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  Speaker 2: how does Alex Verdugo not have a job? He has
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  Speaker 2: a job now the Braves sign him one year, one
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  Speaker 2: and a half million dollars. Thank you to the Atlanta
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  Speaker 2: Braves for signing him. Like two hours at we left camp,
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  Speaker 2: we could have asked everyone about that. I'm kidding, it's fine,
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  Speaker 2: but what do we think about the move for Dougo
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  Speaker 2: was on the Yanks last year, part of a World
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  Speaker 2: Series team that finished in second place in baseball, so
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  Speaker 2: he's on a contender. Didn't have a great year, right
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  Speaker 2: and fell off a little bit as the season went on.
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  Speaker 2: But obviously many people look around and they're like this
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  Speaker 2: guy can't get a major league deal.
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  Speaker 1: Well he did.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a big deal, but he gotself a deal.
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  Speaker 3: And it seems like there's always a few guys.
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, at the end of the day, Listen, I'm not
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  Speaker 4: on the statue of many of these ballplayers, but I
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  Speaker 4: was one of those guys. On the last couple of
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  Speaker 4: years in my career, was like, damn, I can't find
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  Speaker 4: a job here, Like give me something. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: we went back and forth with a couple of teams.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm sure you know it's very frustrating for him.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure he's like, what the heck do I have
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  Speaker 4: to do? The guy brings energy, he brings a poise
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  Speaker 4: about him, you know, with the jewelry, with the nice shoes.
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  Speaker 3: But he can play. The guy can still play.
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  Speaker 4: He's a good ballplayer, he's a good outfielder, and he's
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  Speaker 4: gonna help any ball cup. So it looks like he's
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  Speaker 4: gonna start out in Gwinnett. And you know, I would say,
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  Speaker 4: I would say a good month, if not a little longer,
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  Speaker 4: to get going. I mean, for me, I needed that
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  Speaker 4: spring training. I didn't need the whole month and a half,
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  Speaker 4: but I needed. I needed a good three to four
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  Speaker 4: weeks to get going and get after it. So good
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  Speaker 4: for him, congratulations. Hopefully he gets up there and just
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  Speaker 4: absolutely dominate. So they have to pay him more and
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  Speaker 4: he goes somewhere else, but again just really late and
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  Speaker 4: really late before the season starts.
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  Speaker 1: And only he knows what kind of numbers he was
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  Speaker 1: asking for. Was he asking for five million, which to
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  Speaker 1: me isn't that much of a stretch. But he's got
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  Speaker 1: to he's got to. He's got to re establish his value.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna essentially play twenty nine years old this entire season.
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  Speaker 1: He's twenty eight right now, will turn I think it's
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  Speaker 1: eight May May, he turns twenty nine. Look at the
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  Speaker 1: guy that we just had on the show yesterday, Turks
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  Speaker 1: and Profar. He re established his value. Sometime this happens
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  Speaker 1: in life. Sometimes it happens like at points in your
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  Speaker 1: career you have to establish yourself as a player, not
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  Speaker 1: just a prospect or not just you had a good
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  Speaker 1: first half and then two years later you had a
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  Speaker 1: good second half. For Dugo is a very capable player.
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  Speaker 1: A big league contract is a huge, huge piece of it,
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  Speaker 1: because if you just go in and you're in the
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  Speaker 1: bushes for a month. The other year, the Braves had
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  Speaker 1: like seven All star starters that were out there. You
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  Speaker 1: ain't cracking that lineup. They break out the same in
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  Speaker 1: April this year, you ain't cracking the lineup. But when
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  Speaker 1: you have a big league deal, now, all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: you're the first guy called up.
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  Speaker 2: Last year eighty three ops plus so league average is
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and you're an outfielder. Right, you can get
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  Speaker 2: a little more grief if you're saying catcher, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's not a good year. Point eight wins above replacement,
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  Speaker 2: so less than one win. You can debate how much
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  Speaker 2: a win is worth, but if you're a sub one
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  Speaker 2: win player, this is pretty close to what you might
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  Speaker 2: pull off in free agency, especially at this time. Again,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you how the front offices are evaluating
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  Speaker 2: players these days. You can say whatever you want, but
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  Speaker 2: he would say the same thing, Hey, how was your year?
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  Speaker 2: You'd be like, I didn't hit like I should have.
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  Speaker 2: This was a bad offensive year for me.
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  Speaker 3: That is what it is. Actually.
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  Speaker 2: I think on the fielding side, he's probably gotten a
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  Speaker 2: little better and is better than most people think. I
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  Speaker 2: think for a while it was like, Oh, this is
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  Speaker 2: a bat first guy, really good contact, has potential level
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  Speaker 2: a little more pop, but the offense was down. The
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  Speaker 2: glove I think actually kind of saved him in this case.
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  Speaker 1: It definitely saved him because his offense was down. But
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  Speaker 1: I think you know his power. What he's doing is
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  Speaker 1: production at the plate, very similar. He's going to run
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  Speaker 1: into a few more walks here there. To me, his
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  Speaker 1: value is going to be be on the field. Don't
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  Speaker 1: let your defense, don't let your defense decline, because if
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  Speaker 1: that happens, now, it's just minor league minor league invites.
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  Speaker 1: You're you're not getting You're not getting a big league contract.
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  Speaker 1: And this is really a make or break season for
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  Speaker 1: him in the sense of him being a everyday big leaguer.
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  Speaker 1: He played last year for a World Series team, not
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  Speaker 1: a World Series contending team, a World Series team, and
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  Speaker 1: he was out there. It's just a matter of you
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  Speaker 1: have to take the next step. I'm not saying he
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  Speaker 1: has a twenty five dingers. I'm saying he has to
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  Speaker 1: be able to steal more than two bases. He has
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  Speaker 1: to be able to get his own base percentage back
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  Speaker 1: up when he doesn't have the biggest you know protection
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  Speaker 1: in the lineup. So to me, I think I think
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  Speaker 1: this is fair. I wish it was more just because
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  Speaker 1: I think it would raise you know, rising tide raises
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  Speaker 1: all ships. I wish all all guys that are a
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  Speaker 1: free agency like this should be able to get more
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  Speaker 2: forty two two, Yeah, forty two and three. So the
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  Speaker 2: Braves by the way, real quick. Yes, this isn't a
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  Speaker 2: factor right away to start the season, but eventually Verdugo
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  Speaker 2: get called up. They've got profar out there, Michael Harris
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  Speaker 2: the second and then a platoon of Jared Kelnick and
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  Speaker 2: Brian de la Cruz. So they're looking and going A
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  Speaker 2: injuries happen and then we're too thin, and b somebody
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  Speaker 2: could underperform and then we're too thin. Dayla Cruz, there's
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  Speaker 2: an okay player with the Marlins. Did not hit well
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  Speaker 2: for the most part when he was traded to the Pirates.
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  Speaker 2: So he's trying to resurrect his value too, So put.
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  Speaker 4: A little pressure on some guys. Man, let's go Nothing
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  Speaker 4: wrong with that, Yeah, nothing wrong with that.
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  Speaker 2: This is a contending team. This could be a really
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  Speaker 2: good team as the season for most two with Strider
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  Speaker 2: and Ocunya coming back. All right, let's hit the extension
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  Speaker 2: here real quick too. Jose Travino traded from the Yankees
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  Speaker 2: to the Reds and the offseason, you know, Fernando Cruz
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  Speaker 2: coming back. I think for the Yankees could be a
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  Speaker 2: good factor. They really like him. Huge swing and miss guy.
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  Speaker 2: He's been hit probably more than you would think when
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  Speaker 2: you look at the splitter. But anyway, on the other
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  Speaker 2: side of the this is Travino. So now you've got
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  Speaker 2: Tyler Stevenson and Jose Travino, your boy todd father three years,
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  Speaker 2: including this year, for about fifteen million dollars, so about
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  Speaker 2: five million year plus a club option if they want
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  Speaker 2: to keep him after that. And now they've got two
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  Speaker 2: catchers in a nice spot. And they can do some
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  Speaker 2: load management with Tyler Stevenson too, you know, DHM, maybe
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  Speaker 2: some first base.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll get to talking with Chavigno here next week,
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  Speaker 4: so that's gonna be fun too as well. So that's
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  Speaker 4: really awesome for him. Congratulations first and foremost. You know,
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  Speaker 4: coming from the Yankees, now it's a different ballgame. I
• 10:36
  Speaker 4: played with both teams, so you understand, you know the
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  Speaker 4: pressures of what have you done for me lately? Attitude
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  Speaker 4: in New York. Now you're in Cincinnati where you struggle
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  Speaker 4: a little bit. The fans are gonna be like, ah,
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  Speaker 4: what's going on here?
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  Speaker 3: Man?
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  Speaker 4: You know they're not going to totally get on you
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  Speaker 4: and be like, you know, get this guy out of here,
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  Speaker 4: get rid of him, blah blah blah. So he has
• 10:54
  Speaker 4: a little bit more breathing Rooim not only playing, but
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  Speaker 4: also now that he's has a three year with fifteen
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  Speaker 4: million dollars. Congratulations. He is absolutely a stud. He's one
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  Speaker 4: of the best receiving catchers if I'm not mistaken of
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  Speaker 4: getting that pitch, that low pitcher outside inside.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: He's one of those top guys and he's going to
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  Speaker 4: bolster that pitching staff even better. He's a commander in
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  Speaker 4: chief behind the plate, and he knows what to do.
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  Speaker 4: He knows hitters, and now he's in the National League
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  Speaker 4: for the first time. You know, I wish him well
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  Speaker 4: and I can't wait to see him and give him
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  Speaker 4: a big hug. And he's gonna take us out to
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  Speaker 4: dinner when we get there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, for sure, why not have the Todd father,
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  Speaker 1: have the Elie Dela Cruz when you go there, the.
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  Speaker 2: Father table, but the check exactly.
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  Speaker 1: I love the All I gotta say about Trevy getting
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  Speaker 1: this is this is awesome. Like this dude has made
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  Speaker 1: himself the player that he is understanding what the value
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  Speaker 1: is in catching. The Reds understand, understand the catching value
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  Speaker 1: and receiving. Yes, they understand, and they're building. You look
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: at some teams and you're like, what is this identity
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  Speaker 1: of this team? The Reds are building something that can
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  Speaker 1: last for a little while. Here they have a pitching
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  Speaker 1: staff that can that needs leaders, not a leader leaders.
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  Speaker 1: I was looking at Tyler Stevenson's games played. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if you're talking this guy's gonna play catch one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and twenty games behind the dish. What more value can
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  Speaker 1: you get from him if he's off his legs a
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  Speaker 1: little bit and he's catching one hundred games And then
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  Speaker 1: you get Trevy in there. For sixty you know, give
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  Speaker 1: or take ten or fifteen more as he comes in
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  Speaker 1: defensive replacement type of thing. This is super huge value
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  Speaker 1: because you get one hundred and sixty two games out
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  Speaker 1: of your catching position from two guys. And his value
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  Speaker 1: to that pitching staff will be astronomical because he's done
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  Speaker 1: it in New York. It's not only receiving, it's game calling.
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  Speaker 1: Guys in New York raved about his game calling. And
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  Speaker 1: I think being able to have that extra extension of
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  Speaker 1: Derek Johnson the pitching coach out there on the field,
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  Speaker 1: is going to give them tons of value and for
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  Speaker 1: five million a year essentially for the next three years.
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  Speaker 1: Easy contract for the Reds to do, especially since they've
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  Speaker 1: never really seen him play in a game on their
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  Speaker 1: own team. And it's great for Rosy that he's locked
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  Speaker 1: up now and easily the biggest contract that he would
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  Speaker 1: have ever had in his career.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So, and two things kind of button this up, Like
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  Speaker 4: the Reds don't really do this kind of stuff, you know,
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  Speaker 4: from when I played now all of a sudden, like
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  Speaker 4: given little contracts. I mean, fifteen million is a lot
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  Speaker 4: of money. But you know, when you think about the
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  Speaker 4: overview of everything, like.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's for him.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's a good, good amount of money, don't
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  Speaker 4: get me wrong, but you know he must And number two,
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  Speaker 4: he must have did something in spring training to kind of,
• 13:41
  Speaker 4: you know, turn everybody's head and be like, Yo, this
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  Speaker 4: this dude just talk. This is the real dude, just talk. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Like that's it. Then he was heat and the pitchers
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  Speaker 4: must have said something. Listen, news travels fast. You get
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  Speaker 4: a guy in there and all of a sudden, like
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  Speaker 4: he's not talking as it, he's not like communicating. This
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  Speaker 4: guy's a communicator. He wants to win and he knows
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  Speaker 4: what he's doing. Good for the Reds to do something
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  Speaker 4: like this for him.
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  Speaker 2: Reds haven't made the playoffs since twenty twenty, I believe,
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  Speaker 2: which was the year that everyone made the playoffs basically,
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  Speaker 2: So think about it. Travino has been on a winner
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  Speaker 2: for a while. Got to be doing something right when
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  Speaker 2: you're a catcher like that. And there are a lot
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: of pitchers, especially relievers in the Yankees bullpen, that go
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: from no names to names. The Yankees actually are really underrated.
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  Speaker 2: They might be bad at some other things, but they're
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: really underrated on the relief pitching side. Right, you can
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: you can say there's too many older veterans whatever. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: but Trevino, here's the thing, you very much know. On
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  Speaker 2: the defensive side, offense was down, but he's had some
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  Speaker 2: better years defensive side. If you go on stack cast
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  Speaker 2: blocks above average, eighty eighth percentile, so and again this
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  Speaker 2: is what front offices are looking at. So he's one
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  Speaker 2: of the best. And like you mentioned too, Todd father,
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  Speaker 2: he was ninety fifth percentile framing. So he is well
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  Speaker 2: known in those two categories. Yankee fans will say, let's
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  Speaker 2: find something, and last year they were picking on him
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: for the olen bases, right, he does not rate well there,
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: but find me the perfect catcher. There are a few,
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  Speaker 2: but not many.
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  Speaker 1: Let's let's let's make sure you guys ask him next
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  Speaker 1: week when you're in Cincinnati about the stolen bases. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'll leave it at that. I'm not I'm not even
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  Speaker 1: talking about slowly played or anything. Let's just because he
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  Speaker 1: is honest and he also doesn't make excuses. But you
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  Speaker 1: gotta be real when you're looking at stolen bases. Is
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: there something wrong with his arm? Is there somebody else
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: that's involved with stolen bases there like the picture, like,
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: it's not just on you.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: So then you're saying he's going to pick that number
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: up this year, Well, just.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: You're you're asking me over under on that. I'll go
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: over all day long. I'm with you and if you yeah, anyway,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: it's not a it's stolen bases. Yes, it's not an
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: individual stat. Never have we gone into it. There's one
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: catcher and I won't mention his name he's playing anymore
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: that we went into a game saying we're gonna steal
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: in this.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Guy because of his and his pop time.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: We're just gonna steal in this catcher accuracy, pop time.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: We're gonna steal I would I would have to play.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: I would actually have to play to do that.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: But because you played way back in the yes.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, him and him and Jogi before Yogi shifted to left.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: What a gun? But yes, no there there's never do
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: you go into a game, in a big league game
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: with catchers back there you say this pitching staff, we
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: can roll them.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: We've been hinting at it, but let's officially announce it.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: He's not invited, but we are going to Cincinnati next
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: week for Opening Day. I'm pumped about this because I've
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: never been in Cincinnati for opening Day and some people
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: are like, you weren't there, not for day, never been
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: for the beginning of the season. That's what people say.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: And and people are like, what ft fans because we
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: hinted at last week, We're like, why since tonight? Why
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: doing Red's Giants? I'm like, because they are opening Day
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: in baseball three year history. Okay, So Wednesday will be
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: on one to three eastern inside the ballpark. Thursday, we're
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: right across the street at the Banks at eleven a m.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Eastern time. You got to follow us on the times
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: a little bit, and then Friday again across the street
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: one to three eastern. So we're doing a lot there
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: and maybe a little bit more to follow us on
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: socials from more information as well, just at foul Territory
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: show on most social accounts. Todd Father, Danny Graves, and
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: we'll pick on some players, yes, and get them to
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: hang out with us.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: This feels like every big big league camp for me.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Springs getting over and then everybody's going to the big.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: Base just fun fun, no single air.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Please, it's Todd, it's Danny, it's me. Rats from his
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: base from his base, perhaps from the miners. Louisville is
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: gonna be Nice's go right to a little clip for
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  Speaker 2: the YouTube crowd right now, large new bar. We can't
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• 18:06
  Speaker 3: I would.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: I think I DMed it, but he's got like a
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: million followers. He's too cool for us because he's got
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: the old japan audience. But anyway, he spoke to Katie,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: we want cardinal territory. And here's what he said. Baseball
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: is such a long season.
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: Like they're they're they're going to be highs and there's
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: going to be lows, right, and like you never want
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: to ride the highs, but you also never want to
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: ride the lows either, And you understand that you're not
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: as good as they say you are, and you're not
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: as bad as they say you are either. So it's
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: just like keeping that steady, that steady pace throughout the season.
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: And you know, I think that's why Paeder said it best, like, well,
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: we're we're going to be where feed are, you know,
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: that day, and so we have a great opportunity. You know,
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: we're gonna go out and show it. But at the
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: same time, you know, like you said, different doesn't have
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: to be bad, and I promise like none of us
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: are expecting to be bad this year, So I'm optimistic.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: I'm excited about it.
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: I know Pedro is too, but yeah, there you go.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: So that's pedro pies too. By the way, probably the
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: catching combo that they have.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Who I heard is like some kind of leader in
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: that really like nobody really knows about. I was talking
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: to one of their pretty high up guys and they're like,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: this dude for some reason, everybody just kind of gravitates
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: to them. They really like him, try to get him
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• 19:26
  Speaker 1: up and he was like, I gotta go hit in
• 19:27
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• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're busy, big bags.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: They're running everywhere. But it was good. It's good to
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  Speaker 1: hear I like that because I would have never thought that.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: But dudes really really gravitate to him, which is good.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: You gravitate to your catcher.
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• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he said.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: That's what he said.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: That's what he said.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: That's what he said.
• 20:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's things no matter what, even if you have
• 20:54
  Speaker 8: I don't know if I had the expectation, but I
• 20:56
  Speaker 8: knew the reality of the situation. So no matter what,
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: when when it does happen, it stings, and you always
• 21:02
  Speaker 8: feel like, all right, no matter what, I'm gonna go
• 21:04
  Speaker 8: out there and I'm gonna perform as best as I
• 21:06
  Speaker 8: can and maybe it will change the minds. I don't
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: think there are any minds that change here. I think
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: there was a business decision that had to be made.
• 21:12
  Speaker 8: And like I said there before earlier today, this is
• 21:15
  Speaker 8: Marshan's a great player, so I fully expect him to
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: go out there, perform and help the team win. But
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: you know, in my last three years, I've done just that,
• 21:24
  Speaker 8: is do nothing but help this team win, whether it
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: be on the field off the field. That's been my
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: mindset from the very beginning. So there was always the
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: thought in the back of my head, you know, we've
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: had a really good thing going and I've helped this
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: team win. So maybe they'll see they'll see that and
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: that will be the decision that's made at the end
• 21:42
  Speaker 8: of the day. But now we're sitting here and this
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: is a decision that's made.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: So that's guy at Stubbs on The Philly Show with
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: one of their hosts Todds A lucky at Clearwater. That
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: shows awesome if you want to check it out. They've
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: done tons of interviews during spring training and otherwise with
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: many of the big fills, but obviously crap. It's not
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: only is this the team that you help us talk about,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: but you know stubbs pretty well. And just like when
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Kevin Pollar came on last year right after he had
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: been dfaded, it's pretty cool to hear from a guy
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: once he gets optioned who'd been in the bigs for
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: a while, been part of big moments for the Phillies
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: and just get the raw response from him right after
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: it happened.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: You don't want to talk to anybody when you get optioned.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, look at Kobe Mayo. Kobe Mayo had to
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: go and recant what he said. You don't retract like
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: it wasn't. I was kind of mad at the time
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. Stubbsy also didn't give you the you
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: know what, sometimes you go out and you do good
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: and sometimes you don't do good. He gave a real
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: insight into what it is. And that's why, you know,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I think Stubbsy's spot on this team. While he doesn't
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: have it in the big leagues right now. Guys respect him,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Guys understand him. People be like, ah, I talked to
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: somebody the other day in Philly. They were like, oh,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Man Stubbs, he sucks. I was like, Okay, relax for
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: a second, Like, this is a big league baseball player
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: who has to go out and face big league pitching
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: once every seven days. When JT. Real Muto doesn't play,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: he has He does everything. He'll lay a bunt down,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: he's got I think he's got like nine or ten
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: stolen bases coming off the bench. He is the production
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: you need. Oh yeah, And he had the fastest pop
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: time of any catcher in baseball last year on one
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: single throw, so his averages.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Are right there.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: It's a little bit slower than JT. Real Muto, who
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: is the best in baseball. So yes, Garrett stuff sucks
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: compared to JT.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Real Muto.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: That is not fair. This is a business decision they
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: need to have in an organization. You need to have
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: three legitimate big league catchers, and they had that for
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: a while. With Marshawn being able to be in the bushes.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: JT goes down. He comes up filled in really well
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: did a great job with his opportunity. Now he's got
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: no options. When you got options, there's value there. Sorry, Like,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: let's just go ahead and look at the Dodgers and
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: who have options. They have a really deep roster. They're
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: going to options some dudes down and it's not based
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: on who they are as a player. It's based on
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: how can this team make the best forty five to
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: fifty guys pushed towards the World Series Championship.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: You need that said, and you always need catchers at
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: the end of the catcher I'm not saying I don't
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: know what particular reason. Yeah, I know they're in the
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: stands all the time. They have Nixon Knax, and he's
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: gonna have to get called back up. I mean they
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: got the guy's an absolute beast. You know wherever he
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: is and wherever he's at, so he's there's always Teams
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: are always looking for catchers, and you know he'll be
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: He'll be back up in no time in my opinion.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, I mean hopefully for the Phillies.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's between whatever team he's with.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: That's the hard that's the hard part with being a
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: backup catcher. Hopefully you don't get called up hopefully if
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: you're the big lead backup, you're not playing every day. Yeah,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: that's the reality. If if you guys want to watch
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: The Tale of the Backup Catcher, it tells you no,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: it's really, it's really the it's the crux of the position.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: You know you're good enough to be a big leaguer
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: and if you get more at bats, you'll play better.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: But you also know if JT. Real Muto goes down,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: that is a monster loss for a Phillies team. So
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: it's tough. It's tough, and no way is Garrett. So
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: that's why I loved about the interview. Garrett Stubbs is
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: not going to ever hope for an injury and like nobody, nobody,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: nobody is worth their weight, and you're going to be
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: out of the big leagues like this if you're just
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: hoping for injuries, that's just that, ain't it.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah. Awesome insight from him. That was really
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: good to be able to learn about what's going on
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: and also hear from him the genuine a I've given
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: a lot to this team, yes, and I'm going to
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: continue to do that. Really cool, no other way to
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: do it. Yeah, exactly, So props to stubs. Obviously he'll
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: be up at some point, most likely this year. It's
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: just the nature of the beast, all right. Ft fam
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Arena Club is going to help us take a look
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: at the stars. So there was an article put out
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: by the Athletic on position player tiers, the top one
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: hundred position players, sacking them up with what is a Otani, Soto, Judge,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Bobby Wood Junior, etc. Look like, well, all the guys
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: I just mentioned actually are in the top tier, and
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: so is Mookie Betts and Gunner Henderson. That's it. That
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: was the best of the best position players. So I'm
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: just laying that out right off the jump. We've got
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: lists of the rest, but there's your best of the best.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Take a good look at it. So basically, according to
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: them on the position player side, you have a top.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Six.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Counting to make sure I got that right, top six
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: is right here. Three of them are shortstops. One of course,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: is a dh and Otani, who is a whole nother story.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: But anyway, there's your six. Let's show the next tier
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: down and then we can start to pick through it
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: because there's also you know, the the best of the
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: best is one, the MVP Contenders is to the All
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Stars is three, and steady and solid is for these
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Let's get lengthy, but we'll pick some things out. I
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: just want to show the MVP contenders too, so you
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: can see who is not in that top tier. Ronald
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Lacuna Junior, Jordan Abarez, Elie de la Cruz, Freddie Freeman,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Vladdy Junior, Bryce Harper, Lindoor, Ktel Marte, Jose Ramirez, Julio Rodriguez,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Cory Seger, Fernando Tatis Junior, and Kyle Tucker. That is
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: the next list down that they have. Okay, let us begin.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Todd Father, Yes, sir, what do you like? What do
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: you not like?
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: I like? I like the Tier one. I think that's
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: that's really good.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: But I think there's one person that should also be
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: up there in that tier one, and that's Ronald Lacune journer.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: And I think maybe he's Tier two because of the injuries.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's the only thing I could really think of.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: But the guy is I mean, think about what he
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: has done in a year span two as well with uh,
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: you know, the opportunities is given with the stolen bases,
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: with the home runs, with every anything else. He's an
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: absolute beast. When he's healthy, he's one of the best players.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: I feel like he should be on a tier one
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: in my opinion.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I like that we can add more. Yeah, we can
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: add more today, and he has an MVP, So should
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: he be in that tier?
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I think sometimes when people put lists together, they're too
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: hard on superstars with injuries. You need to look at
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: where they are in their career. Like Cocune's got plenty
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: of prime years left. He's come back from a knee
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: injury already. Does anybody doubt that he's going to be
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: a superstar again? I don't think so. Are some people
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: concerned that it might not look like that in May
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: or June or even for the first season because that
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: was a thing with him last time? Sure?
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Maybe?
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: But is he a first tier guy? Yes?
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I would say, is he a fifty to thirty guy? Like,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: it's okay if he never steals seventy bases again, it
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: is really okay. People like, we're fine if he goes
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: fifty to thirty, there's gonna be another mantle. There's gonna
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: be another trophy on his mantle.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. I'm going to bring this one up because
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: then you know, you get to the the Tier three
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: and you've got guys like Corbyn Carroll and Alex Bregman,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Churios on there, William Contreras, Matt Olsen. Here, it is
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: cal Riley. I'm not going to say every single name,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Jaron Duran who was sick last year, Machado's on here,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Trout's on here. Are you guys cool with Ellie de
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: la Cruz being in Tier two and not Tier three
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: m VP contenders on the list above all of these players. Obviously,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: I'm bringing this up because I am a fan of Ellie.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: We're going to see him next week in Cincinnati, and
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: if we can to show Arena Club a little love
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: we can, we can throw an Ellie de la Cruz.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: That's a gym right out there which you can get,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: and the goldpack. I'm waiting for mine, so I will
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: be entering the slab Pack mix later today today, Yes, today.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Day one o'clock right at drops.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: So thoughts on Ellie because for me, I know I
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: talked about this last year. At one point I was
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: like he should be in the MVP conversation. I felt
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: like you guys were a little hard on me, and yes,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: other players did emerge. Obviously, Otani put a full season together.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Lindor definitely had a better year than him, but I
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: felt like he was getting close to that territory. To tell,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Marte had a better year than him, but I felt
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: like in the National League he was getting pretty close
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: to me. I'm like, I'm not surprised if he wins
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: an MVP starting this season.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: That would be a'd be a quick turnaround with the
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: deficiencies that he has. He's also, he's so young. He's
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: so young.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: What are the deficiencies besides swing and miss, which has been.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Really, that's it, right, I'm just taking it is deficiencies.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah you did say plural, and yes, he's twenty three
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: years old. Just just wondering what what else is wrong?
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I mean deficiencies, it's multiple strikeouts. It's a lot of
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: strikeouts to be able to allow yourself to be an MVP.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Is the stolen base going to be valued enough for
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: an MVP candidacy? Does his defense give him enough to
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: give him that MVP candidacy? If he learns to steal
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: stolen bases? And this is crazy, I'm probably gonna get
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: roasted by the red fan that is watching this show.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: What if he learns to steal bases? Dave Roberts has
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: come out and said it. Other base Steelers have come
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: out and said, this guy steals based on his long
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: legs and his speed when he learns to get jumps
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: and stuff. Let's say he gets into the eighty five
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: to ninety range, which is a banana's number. I think
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: he's available, he's able to do that, and then he
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: puts thirty pumps on it. Now we're talking MVP to
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: wash out his strikeouts that are there because his strikeouts
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: are not going to allow him to get on base.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Every time he strikes out, he cannot steal a base. Know,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: that's pretty easy.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. Say get on base as
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: much as possible. Now, this is only year three in
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: the BIGS, and one wasn't even a full season. Year one,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: in just under one hundred games, thirty percent of the
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: time he's on base. Okay, three hundred on base year two,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: three thirty nine. That's that's good. That's what you're looking for.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: That's the improvement that is. Now, can we get the
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: swing and miss down a little bit more? Can we
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: take a few more walks, right. Also, I mean, you
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: guys can speak better than to this than I can.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: He's huge. Sometimes the big dudes take a little bit
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: more time to marinate. Look look at how long it
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: took Aaron Judge. Aaron Judge wasn't in the big leagues
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: until what twenty three or four? And that's in the
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Star until twenty five.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I want to say, yes, twenty seventeen. Yes, so he
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: would be yeah, twenty five. I think he was when
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: he was. But anyway, like we're nitpicking here. Yes, we're
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: not saying he is a We're not We're not confusing
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Eli da Cruz with like a barely in the big
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: league's guy. We're confusing him with is he a top
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: five player or is he a top two player in
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: the league? And those are the things, those are the
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: deficiencies that will elevate him, and he can do that.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Most dudes are in double A if they're lucky at
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: twenty three years old the Todd Father, were you in
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: the big league?
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Twenty six?
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: You are a how many time all start, two time?
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: All?
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Like this is he is an elite player? Could he
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: be an MVP? Yes? It's like when we talk about aces,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: certain guys with not enough time in the big leagues
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: might have the stuff but might not be aces yet.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, Next up that I wanted to ask you is,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: let's get back to the best of the Best list.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Tell me how you would somewhat rank this list. You
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: don't have to go necessarily one through seven, But do
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: you feel like there is even separation within what we're
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: looking at now? Like, let's bring up Bobby Wood Junior
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: for example. I mean, he in many other years is
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: an MVP. There was a ridiculous season again there by
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: mister Judge, so he falls to second place. Not many
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: flaws in that game. Right now? Do you feel like
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Bobby Wood Junior should be ranked? I'm putting Otani in
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: a separate category. Shit, should he be.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Three after Judge?
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: And there's the beauty of the card as well?
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Sorry?
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: I got, I got, And he was actually one of
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: the biggest card collectors in the sport. Anyway, By the way,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: where are we at on how we're ranking the top
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: tier right now?
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: You have to be able to rank it? Okay, shows there,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: that's one I think if you're talking about this season,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: I think Judge may have Bobby for like a split second,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: you're talking about the rest of their career.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Bobby, and I wouldn't even really be able to argue
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: with you if you told me Bobby's over Judge, just
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: because this dude is young. He is always he's learning.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: He like he was doing stuff last year that most
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: people didn't even see because it was casey like what
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: he was doing early in games at bats. Later on
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: they stopped pitching to him. Now he's gonna keep learning
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: how to hit?
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: What position?
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Huh?
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: And what position is he?
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's the last point elite position. Any of these
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: guys that are on in an elite position and shows
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: you how good Otani is because he's dhing and we're
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: still like, okay, he's won because he's also going to
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: throw baseballs. But to me, I think it's Otani, Judge,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Bobby Witt, I think it goes Juan Soto, Gunner and Muki.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: This might be the only list that Muki is number
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: six one.
• 35:32
  Speaker 9: Yeah that's good, Godfather, Yeah, I for me, but without
• 35:40
  Speaker 9: Otani on there. I we haven't talked about Sodo really
• 35:43
  Speaker 9: that much. I mean for me, I I got Sodo
• 35:46
  Speaker 9: as a top three in my opinion.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Really, I have a Otani, I have.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: Soto, then I have Judge if you want the truth,
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: and I'm going on on.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: You know, we're talking about position. You guys are going
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: to say the defense.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: But I'm a hitter guy, bro, and what he did
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: last year, I mean can't be unnoticed. So I'm going
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: with those guys as the top three, and then I
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: put I would put Mookie Bobby with and Gunnar Henderson
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: after that if that's my top tier right there. So yeah,
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: I mean you can't take away what Wan Soto has
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: been doing. It's been absolutely incredible.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: You're placing more emphasis on the bat and I'm with
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: you here, You're definitely this is gonna get posted later, right,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: and and fans are gonna go.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: H Todd Nutt.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Realize that you also have to be able to play
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: your position at an elite level. And he's not a
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: speech on the bass pass whatever, but you're saying, hey,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: I'm everything's weighted right if you're waiting hitting a lot
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: higher and the impact that he makes and how he
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: changes the lineup.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think you ask anybody all right after
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: you get rid of Tani, like who's your next pick
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: in a draft, Well, in my opinion, I'm taking one
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Soto if I've positioned player wise, and that's that's just me.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: But the guy's gonna absolutely drop. He's going to hit
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: the ball. He's going to do really good things for
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: the Meths as we've seen already. And you know after that,
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: you know he have Aaron Judge doing the same thing,
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: Mookie Bets, Bobby Waite. Like you said, dude, he's gonna
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: he's a star, but he's going to take off and
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: it's going to be fun to watch.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, age matters too here, right, that's why Soda is
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: the highest paid player of all time. If you're even
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: just focusing on this year, you're going to put a
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: little more weight on the dude that's in his prime first,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: a guy that's getting a little up there.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we'll see that's fine.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would I would disagree with you
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: on the Mookie Bets, and I would switch your Mookie
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: and your Gunner. That's what I would switch.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: You have Gunner ahead of Mookie. No chance he's going
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: to say, have I seen it long enough?
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Because for Gunner the breakout, I mean again, this is
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: a guy who what last year was his first full season.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: I would battle you that to the end of the earth.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: No, he was Rookie of Year, yeah, two years ago.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Two years ago, all right, so last year was his
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: his second second season is sophomore season. I don't remember
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: if you got called up right from the jump.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Or he's whatever. He's the he's the engine that runs
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: that that locomotive.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: But Moki is also the leadoff guy too as well.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Well I'm not sure what they kind of go back
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: and forth, but seeing what Mookie can do, and he
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: played two different positions.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Now I'm moving back to who's.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: The best athlete on that list of the six.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: Athlete taking baseball away or were talking baseball too.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Hey, we gotta jump, we gotta we got a big
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: boy guest ready to go.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Big boy guess I'm going rookie bots, Yeah, have to.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: That's my number six. But that that's that's where that's
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the elite people out there.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: That is all right? Anyway, that was fun. Thanks to
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: the Athletic for putting that out there, and thanks to
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Arena Club for helping us out with all the pretty graphics.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Use code foul foul to get yourself twenty percent off
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: your first slab pack or your first card purchase. If
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: you're waiting for that slab pack to drop like Kratz does.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: You also can get them now every single day, which
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: makes a big difference. Basically, you can unwrap it pack
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: and not be like, I'm never going to get this
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: big card. They're showing you what you can get in
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: the grail. We'll dive deeper on picks next week, but
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: right now butt MGM futures again looking for value. National
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: League Central Winner. Uh oh, Cubs plus one fifteen. People
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: are like, wow, two cups, they're so far behind. What
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Then you've got Milwaukee at plus two ninetyes, Cincinnati's at
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: plus four fifty, Pittsburgh and Saint Louis at plus eight
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: fifty together, Do we have value on the board. I
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: feel like we're all going to agree on where the
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: value is.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty soon.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: The Reds at plus four, I mean sure, could they
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: end up in last this year, yes, But could they
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: end up in first this year? Absolutely? With the talent
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: that they've got.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: By six games they could agreed.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's your value right?
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Easy pas one fifteen plus one fifteen Wow for.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: The Cubs, that's that's crazy. Honestly, that is way.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Too high going. They must know something we don't know.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: They're getting them way too much. Ve good team, but
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: to go that high.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: And I know that numbers, and I know that numbers
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: moving because a guy that I talked to about those
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: numbers moving pre season picks stuff. There's some dudes, there's
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: some high up, good people who are really good at
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: picks who are going Cubs. They're going the Cubs. Yeah,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: even at plus and that numbers, that number has been changing.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: It's been technically going down. It was at like one
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: seventy two hundred people throwing down.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, not me, nope, Red Yeah again, I like them,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: but I'm not getting value at plus one fifteen. Right,
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: We're almost even money on them to win the division.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: That's too much. That's too crazy. Clip this back in
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: the future.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: And doesn't mean they can't. Doesn't mean Scott's picked.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not winning the division by ten games.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Man. If they do, they they have some dudes step
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: up in that. They had some dudes step up in
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: the bottom of that lineup, even middle of that lineup.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: The Brewers won the division last year by ten games, yes,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: so or more whatever. All right anyway, you know what's
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: going on right now? Little March action, March matchups, no
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Sweat Parlay, Drive to the rim with the no Sweat
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Parlay token, login to get yours. If you don't win
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: your bet, you'll get your stake back in bonus bets.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Just will we have what one minute? Todd Father, you
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: can do it. AJ's not here, and I know he
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: hates when I talk about sports besides baseball, but we'll
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: do it.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Scott allows basketball but not football.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: I do like me some college hoops this year.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Let's go.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: You got any listen, there's a Cinderella team who I
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: really like.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: I got thirty seconds.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: They looked good yesterday to Creighton. Blue Jays look absolutely stunning.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: I think they're eight or nine seed.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: So great story put together on Pete Alonzo's experience last
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: year in the playoffs that kept the Mets playoff hopes
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: alive against Devin Williams. Did you guys see this, the
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: back and forth and the breakdown and you know if
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: there was any pitching tipping, pitch tipping and all of that,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: and he said that it wasn't right.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: No, no, even if you know that change up is coming,
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: it's pretty filthy. It's the best changeup you're ever going
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: to see in baseball, I mean pretty much. So, Yeah,
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: it was back and forth a little bit. But you know,
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: would you if he's not on your team, would you say, yeah,
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: he was tipping the pitches or you would just.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: So you're saying you'd never give this up because I'm
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: still in the league. Yeah, of cover. So anyway, I
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: want to shout out. Also, we're showing you the CBS
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: article but originally came from a guest of the show,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Anthony Dicomo, who writes for MLB dot com. But your
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: point is, no matter what.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was every time a curveball came making a
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: noise with his glove.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: No, you know what I mean.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: No, until he's on your team, then you tell him exactly,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: and then when he leaves again, you're like, it's a
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: good thing you fixed that. He didn't fix nothing. Because
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: the Mets want to win the World Series, and could
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: they face in the World Series a team from the
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: American League. The Yankees are one of those teams. Whether
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: they are going to or not, it doesn't doesn't apply. No,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: you're not telling anybody, and we're not even saying Pete's
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: a liar.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: No, no, wouldn't wouldn't say it.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: But also Pete hits. I think it's like ops on
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: change ups last year from Righty's was like over eleven hundred.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: I think it was.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Something ridiculous that change ups. Yeah, he has a lot
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: of pitches that he hits. The dude's a fifty fifty homer.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Dude, it's just crazy in our game. When you look
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: at someone like Devin Williams, you're like, oh, this game's over.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: Right, not not in the playoffs, playoffs, class A, not
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: in the playoffs, that pressure class A.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Last year during the regular season, you're like, he's a cyborg,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: and then you get to the playoffs and he's not.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: And then spring training, his last outing, he didn't look.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: Good at all. No, no couple of walks hit. But
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: that's but that's what I'm getting to though. I'm saying, like,
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: it's not what's in my opinion, what's gonna look like
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: during the year, but what I'm saying, you know, we're
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: getting close to the season to start, Let's let's get a.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Gone spring training different from regular season, different from the season.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Right, who would you rather have in the postseason Devin
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Williams with the season he just had, Class A with
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: the season he just had. Or Ryan Presley in a
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: postseason games close out a postseason.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Game, Presley class A or Devin Williams Presley class.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: But who's the best in the regular season? Who's taking
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: home all the right now? I'm just saying, yeah, are
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: you saying right now?
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: No?
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Honestly, Ryan Presley is freaking savage in the playoffs? Yeah,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: I'm saying right now, I know, but we're coming off
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: about this season.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Right now.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: I'm not taking Presley right now.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, what are who you taking?
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: Ryan Presley has done it right now, I'm not I'm talking.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about right now now. I'm taking class. And
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: who's the other one?
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Williams and Presley?
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: I would take class?
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I mean listen, the game. The game is over,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: and yet I don't think there's the postseason. This is
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: why people should watch the postseason, and this is why
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: teams should push to get in. How can we beat
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: the Guardians? They have class. He's gonna come in at
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: the end of the game. And what you can beat anybody,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Anybody can beat anybody. That is the beauty of it
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: push all your chips in when you have a chance
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: to make the playoffs and go for it.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 45:46
  Speaker 10: So this is a time like where we gotta like
• 45:48
  Speaker 10: start making some roster's decisions, you know.
• 45:51
  Speaker 11: And like the tough part is with Rule five picks,
• 45:54
  Speaker 11: Like it just puts a lot of pressure on everybody, right,
• 45:58
  Speaker 11: pressure on you to perform, rush, on us to make
• 46:00
  Speaker 11: a decision, and it can be tough.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: In most cases.
• 46:05
  Speaker 10: In your case, it's not tough at all because you
• 46:08
  Speaker 10: absolutely crushed it and we're excited to have you come
• 46:11
  Speaker 10: with us to Chicago, mad So, uh, you made the team. Congratulations,
• 46:17
  Speaker 10: unbelievable job, and we're just.
• 46:19
  Speaker 11: So excited about the prospect that you continue your career
• 46:23
  Speaker 11: with us at the big BIGE level in Chicago speeches.
• 46:31
  Speaker 12: That's good, am, Happy anniversary.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah of course.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Are you Are you with dad? Can you hear me?
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 46:50
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I did it.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah I'm going to Chicago.
• 46:56
  Speaker 12: You know, usually left picture, you know, tough to make
• 46:59
  Speaker 12: decisions with and everything, and.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: You know, you made it really easy. So you're you're
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: coming to chicuggling.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I got a camera on me right now,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: so no I'm not I'm not crying.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: Just yet.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: But Shane Smith, Brewers minor league prospect undrafted, went through
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: like the COVID season and and Tommy John and all that,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: and and pitched well in the minors. White Sox scoop
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: him up top pick in the Rule five draft. You
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: gotta keephim on the roster. They bring me to the show.
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  Speaker 3: That's so cool. Yeah, that's very hard, as you understand
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: too as well. Rule five. I mean, usually thanks for
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: coming to you later.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: But what a what an.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: Unbelievable story, what an unbelievable player. And now he gets
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: to play in a in the major leaguees and go
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: out there and impress some people. So congratulations to him.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: And I'm you know those things you like to keep sacred,
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: you know, talking to your family. But I'm glad they
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: had a camera on him, so he is. He's got
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: a little memory for the rest of his life too.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if estimate if it was okay that
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: they showed it, you know, probably it's his moment. Why
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: do we have to hide the cameras like he hit
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: like it's like the hidden camera, because then.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: He would know what's going on. They're not doing the
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: camera saying you didn't make the team. So for that
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: part you get the approval. Then after that you say, hey,
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: if you're going to do a phone call, can we
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: be on for it. So I think they did it
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: so awesome.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: It's so awesome that he and the Rule five guys
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: got to stay in the big leagues the whole year,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: or else they got to send them back to the Brewers.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: And you know, anybody that goes from the White Sox
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: bullpen going right to the playoffs.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: If they do not keep him on their team, you
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: will go back to the Brewers and be their closer
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: in August. All right, great week again, thanks to the
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: team behind the scenes for the spring training tour. We'll
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: see you next week again. Monday, eleven am Eastern Time.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Still wake up with us.