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- 0:00Speaker 1: Oh, We're always inventing new things on aerow dot net.
- 0:03Speaker 1: That's the fun part about being a podcaster. Doesn't have
- 0:06Speaker 1: to be that stale, old, boring stuff that includes the
- 0:10Speaker 1: news and a bunch of gossip that means nothing to you.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Our new feature is called Music's Lost History. My goal
- 0:17Speaker 1: as a podcaster is to put you in a situation
- 0:20Speaker 1: of I know you know the song, but do you
- 0:23Speaker 1: know the history? So I give you all of these
- 0:25Speaker 1: hints of what that song is, and then I pop
- 0:27Speaker 1: you right at the end, going this is it for
- 0:30Speaker 1: you to go, Holy crap, Let's do this again. Music's
- 0:34Speaker 1: Lost History Only on ARO dot net A R. R
- 0:37Speaker 1: oe dot net. Enjoy your exploration. Hello Sebastian, how you
- 0:42Speaker 1: doing today?
- 0:43Speaker 2: I'm great man. How are you.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Absolutely fantastic man? You ready to talk about this phenomenal
- 0:48Speaker 1: book that you've released.
- 0:51Speaker 2: I absolutely am. Thank you.
- 0:53Speaker 1: Please tell me that you had a great time doing this, because,
- 0:55Speaker 1: I mean, you uncover some things here that just made
- 0:57Speaker 1: that made me. There were times that I failt some shivers.
- 1:00Speaker 1: There were times that I felt like, yeah, you go
- 1:02Speaker 1: for it man. You're an activator. I mean, you really
- 1:04Speaker 1: do let us inside a path that we're all out here,
- 1:08Speaker 1: but now you let us inside.
- 1:10Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:12Speaker 3: The idea of it was to really bring you know,
- 1:16Speaker 3: you into my consciousness, you know, and have you take
- 1:19Speaker 3: on my thoughts for a little while.
- 1:21Speaker 1: That's my kind of language right there. Man, you're speaking
- 1:24Speaker 1: my stream because I totally believe in that, because I
- 1:26Speaker 1: believe that we're all stream thinkers. But what are we
- 1:28Speaker 1: going to do with it? Well? Sebastian put it in
- 1:30Speaker 1: a book.
- 1:33Speaker 2: That's right, how the Ferris Wheel is Broken?
- 1:36Speaker 1: That title. First of all, I had to I had
- 1:37Speaker 1: to laugh because my daughter graduated from UCLA, and so
- 1:40Speaker 1: when I thought of ferris wheels, I either thought of
- 1:42Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach or I thought of a right there in
- 1:44Speaker 1: the LA area, with being out there on the ocean
- 1:47Speaker 1: and stuff. And it's like, oh my god, everybody has
- 1:49Speaker 1: a ferris wheel somewhere. They can relate with this.
- 1:53Speaker 2: They do, they do.
- 1:54Speaker 3: And it was broken for a while on the pier.
- 1:56Speaker 3: I remember that there was this big project to fix it.
- 1:59Speaker 3: But that title comes from a friend of mine was
- 2:02Speaker 3: drinking in a bar down South and the name of
- 2:05Speaker 3: the drink he was drinking.
- 2:06Speaker 2: Was how the Ferris Wheel was Broken? Yep.
- 2:10Speaker 3: And I was working on the book at the time,
- 2:12Speaker 3: and once I heard that, I was like, that's absolutely
- 2:14Speaker 3: the name of this book.
- 2:16Speaker 1: Just the title itself. Do you got a rap song
- 2:18Speaker 1: inside of you? Or you got a country song that
- 2:19Speaker 1: we can spin backwards and get everything back.
- 2:25Speaker 2: It's a great song title for sure.
- 2:28Speaker 1: I mean, I mean you cover things. I mean speaking
- 2:30Speaker 1: to music, I mean we're talking about Sarah here. I
- 2:32Speaker 1: was introduced to Sarah finally, and that is she's from Boulder,
- 2:34Speaker 1: Colorado and a drummer for a punk rock band. I mean,
- 2:37Speaker 1: I knew Utah had a lot of punk rock going on,
- 2:39Speaker 1: but I didn't realize that Boulder was just as cool.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
- 2:44Speaker 3: She did that for a little while, and I believe,
- 2:46Speaker 3: like the mid eighties that was going on. And they
- 2:50Speaker 3: released one record, one sort of single on a compilation.
- 2:55Speaker 1: But see that, to me is another art form in
- 2:57Speaker 1: the way of music. And I was shocked that I
- 2:58Speaker 1: didn't hear you put your muse again there. If you've
- 3:00Speaker 1: got music, and I know you do because you're creative.
- 3:04Speaker 3: Yes I do. My music's under a badness. That's kind
- 3:08Speaker 3: of the name I go by. And yeah, I finally
- 3:14Speaker 3: about five years ago recorded you know, five of my
- 3:17Speaker 3: songs and put them out there again, just you know,
- 3:19Speaker 3: make sure I get that done before I die.
- 3:22Speaker 1: How did you feel about going in that studio, because
- 3:24Speaker 1: I've been in there twice with the big engineer, with
- 3:27Speaker 1: the individual musicians that I had to hire on the spot.
- 3:31Speaker 1: How did you have to deal with it?
- 3:33Speaker 3: You know, I got really lucky in that sense because
- 3:36Speaker 3: a kid who was much older than me, but a
- 3:38Speaker 3: family friend, grew up in the little town that I'm
- 3:41Speaker 3: from in Connecticut and.
- 3:43Speaker 2: He moved back and he built the whole studio.
- 3:46Speaker 3: So I just went in started talking to him, and
- 3:49Speaker 3: you know, we were bonding just as you know old friends,
- 3:52Speaker 3: and you know, got deep into talking about music, and
- 3:56Speaker 3: he's like, yeah, man, let's let's do this right here.
- 3:59Speaker 3: So I actually had a carpe blanche like perfect situation
- 4:03Speaker 3: for it.
- 4:03Speaker 2: My god.
- 4:04Speaker 1: I love the way that the old time rock and
- 4:06Speaker 1: rollers that are in the Hall of Fame and stuff
- 4:07Speaker 1: like that look at people like yourself and they're going,
- 4:09Speaker 1: my god. I wish I would have had those tools.
- 4:11Speaker 1: I wish I could have just dropped my life for
- 4:13Speaker 1: a moment, stepped into an easygoing studio. But they had
- 4:16Speaker 1: to go the route of making sure they got the
- 4:17Speaker 1: studio itself and buy the tape and go through that rigamaru.
- 4:21Speaker 1: I love where we are with music, and you really
- 4:24Speaker 1: are stepping forward and will inspire people to do that.
- 4:27Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean, with all the new technology now, you
- 4:31Speaker 3: really could just figure out how to do it by
- 4:33Speaker 3: yourself in your own room, you know what I mean.
- 4:35Speaker 3: I like the collaboration aspect, and you know, I'm not
- 4:38Speaker 3: a traditionally trained musician.
- 4:41Speaker 2: I had to figure it out myself.
- 4:43Speaker 3: And this guy who I recorded with, he went to like,
- 4:46Speaker 3: you know, music school, so it was great to have
- 4:49Speaker 3: that advantage, you know.
- 4:51Speaker 2: Dude.
- 4:51Speaker 1: I just dropped it down on Adobe Audition and then
- 4:54Speaker 1: took it to the engineer and said do something with it. And
- 4:55Speaker 1: he says, you know, we're gonna have to hire a
- 4:57Speaker 1: different musicians. I said, that's fine. He says, you we
- 5:00Speaker 1: got a budget for that. No, you've got the budget.
- 5:02Speaker 1: I'll pay you later.
- 5:03Speaker 3: So exactly, I'm all any musicians we had come play
- 5:08Speaker 3: on it, they were pretty cool too. They were all local,
- 5:10Speaker 3: and you know, it was it was very reasonable to
- 5:12Speaker 3: have them come in and do stuff.
- 5:14Speaker 1: Oh we're just getting started. Please do not move. We're
- 5:16Speaker 1: back with Sebastian Tillinger Coming up next the name of
- 5:22Speaker 1: the book How the Ferris Wheel Was Broken, A love
- 5:25Speaker 1: letter to Los Angeles. Ooh, if that doesn't get your attention,
- 5:29Speaker 1: we are back with actor author Sebastian Tillinger. While you
- 5:33Speaker 1: were writing the book, did you have the presence of
- 5:36Speaker 1: a muse? And the reason why I bring that up
- 5:38Speaker 1: is because even as we speak, I'm overlooking this force
- 5:40Speaker 1: where we planted fifteen hundred trees, and this forest stretches
- 5:44Speaker 1: all the way to this area where there were Native
- 5:46Speaker 1: Americans that lived here in the fourteen hundreds. I believe
- 5:49Speaker 1: that's who's speaking through my writing. Who is your writer?
- 5:55Speaker 2: Wow?
- 5:56Speaker 3: The you know, the main thing is I do a
- 5:59Speaker 3: lot of different creative things, and I think that the
- 6:03Speaker 3: energy is the same, it just moves in a different direction.
- 6:08Speaker 3: And I believe that that same energy is in all
- 6:11Speaker 3: of us. You know, We're just all different versions of
- 6:14Speaker 3: kind of the same thing. So what I really wanted
- 6:17Speaker 3: to do is I wanted to tap into that I
- 6:19Speaker 3: wouldn't say unconscious, because these are definitely conscious thoughts that
- 6:23Speaker 3: I've been having, but I wanted to tap into that
- 6:26Speaker 3: thing and reveal aside to you know, being a human being,
- 6:30Speaker 3: especially at that time in nineteen ninety nine, in a
- 6:34Speaker 3: really truthful and honest way without being self conscious.
- 6:37Speaker 1: You know, is that kind of odd for you to
- 6:39Speaker 1: say nineteen ninety nine, because I mean to me, I mean,
- 6:42Speaker 1: first of all, I'm going through that first stage where
- 6:44Speaker 1: people are starting to look at you being Oh, you're
- 6:45Speaker 1: one of the old timers.
- 6:47Speaker 2: No I'm not.
- 6:48Speaker 1: No, I'm stealing nineteen seventy nine. Man, don't teell me
- 6:51Speaker 1: I'm an old timer.
- 6:52Speaker 2: No, right, what did you go through?
- 6:57Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird. I don't feel time in that way,
- 7:03Speaker 3: you know. I feel like life happens so quickly. It's
- 7:07Speaker 3: like a flash, right, So I'm just holding on to
- 7:12Speaker 3: this ride for dear life.
- 7:14Speaker 2: But yeah, I feel like.
- 7:16Speaker 3: Once I developed as a human being and sort of
- 7:19Speaker 3: had this conscious mind that I've had since like nine
- 7:21Speaker 3: years old, it's been the same thing, you know.
- 7:25Speaker 1: So like one of the things that I really chuckled
- 7:27Speaker 1: out loud about because at least you get it where
- 7:29Speaker 1: other people don't. You talk about fifty seven characters cramped
- 7:32Speaker 1: inside your head. I used to tell people, well, those
- 7:35Speaker 1: are all my personalities, until I was corrected they are
- 7:38Speaker 1: not personalities. They are rules that you're playing. Oh, well
- 7:41Speaker 1: in this movie, then I guess so Bastian has fifty
- 7:44Speaker 1: seven different actors playing in his head right now, then
- 7:47Speaker 1: they're roles.
- 7:50Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 7:50Speaker 3: That's the difficult thing about being an actor is as
- 7:53Speaker 3: much as you try and just pick it up and
- 7:55Speaker 3: drop it, you don't. You know, these different characters, these
- 8:00Speaker 3: andalities you create, they get kind of stuck in there.
- 8:03Speaker 3: And then sometimes you're out in your life and things
- 8:05Speaker 3: happen and you're reacting and you're like, wait a minute,
- 8:07Speaker 3: that's that's not me reacting. That's the character I was
- 8:10Speaker 3: just working on two days ago. I'm not like that
- 8:13Speaker 3: at all.
- 8:14Speaker 1: So true. Well, I always look at it like Russell
- 8:16Speaker 1: Crow in Beautiful Minds, what they're all walking with us.
- 8:18Speaker 1: You just can't see him, but they're there. I can
- 8:20Speaker 1: see him.
- 8:21Speaker 2: They're there.
- 8:22Speaker 3: And one of the most profound things about becoming an
- 8:24Speaker 3: actor and training as one is that, you know, you
- 8:27Speaker 3: realize how we all are kind of acting a little
- 8:31Speaker 3: bit all the time. You know, we we sort of
- 8:33Speaker 3: present the world with a personality of our choosing, which
- 8:37Speaker 3: I always found very interesting.
- 8:39Speaker 1: You brought something together in this side this book that
- 8:42Speaker 1: really rocked me. In the way that it being in radio.
- 8:44Speaker 1: As long as I have, we had to endure the
- 8:47Speaker 1: presence of what could be y two K. I'm so
- 8:49Speaker 1: glad that you talk about it because it's lost in history,
- 8:53Speaker 1: but you're going to wake some souls up by talking
- 8:55Speaker 1: about it.
- 8:56Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a crazy time. I remember people were
- 8:59Speaker 3: selling up their stuff and moving down to the bunkers
- 9:02Speaker 3: in the woods, and you know, it wasn't ever present
- 9:05Speaker 3: that like, you know, it was like a daily you know, fear.
- 9:10Speaker 3: But at the same time everything you did, in the
- 9:12Speaker 3: back of your mind, you.
- 9:13Speaker 2: Were like, well, is this the last year? Is is
- 9:18Speaker 2: everything going to change? You know?
- 9:20Speaker 3: And I think it mirrors right now the same kind
- 9:23Speaker 3: of vibe we have with the you know, AI technology
- 9:26Speaker 3: that they again a couple of years ago they started
- 9:29Speaker 3: telling us it's terrible, it's going to kill us all,
- 9:31Speaker 3: and now they're kind of changing their tune and saying, well,
- 9:33Speaker 3: it's okay as long as we control it. I think
- 9:36Speaker 3: it's kind of the same thing in a way.
- 9:38Speaker 1: Oh, I just had an argument with Jim and I
- 9:40Speaker 1: and I'm always arguing with with Alexa because if they
- 9:42Speaker 1: don't go the way I want her. I said, you're Ai,
- 9:44Speaker 1: You're supposed to be listening to me. You're supposed to
- 9:46Speaker 1: be given me what I want. I'm sorry, I can't
- 9:49Speaker 1: do that right now. Oh and you're supposed to be
- 9:52Speaker 1: the future. What are you feeling, dude?
- 9:55Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm still waiting for that technology to really figure
- 9:58Speaker 3: itself out.
- 9:59Speaker 2: Yeah, those things are useless.
- 10:02Speaker 1: You are? Where can people go to find out more
- 10:05Speaker 1: about you, Sebastian, Because A I love this book. It's
- 10:08Speaker 1: so relatable. It is a talking piece, and I'm sure
- 10:11Speaker 1: radio people are going to dig into this and use
- 10:13Speaker 1: a lot of it in their conversations.
- 10:16Speaker 3: You can go to Sebastiantillinger dot com to find out
- 10:19Speaker 3: more about me. My music is under a Sabadness and
- 10:22Speaker 3: you can also go to you know wherever books are sold.
- 10:25Speaker 2: That's available.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Now, you got to come back to this show anytime
- 10:28Speaker 1: in the future. Man, ten minutes with you is just
- 10:30Speaker 1: not enough. I mean, god, dang it. Man, You've got
- 10:32Speaker 1: stories in you.
- 10:34Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
- 10:35Speaker 1: Brother, Will you be brilliant today?
- 10:37Speaker 2: Okay, all right, man, you too, Thanks so much, Thank you.