Latest / Jeep Talk Show / Armorlite Flooring: Thick, Tough, and Worth It?
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- 0:00I do boys and girls, it's time for
- 0:01another Jeep talk show interview.
- 0:03We're going to be talking with Kale and
- 0:06Kale is with it's now.
- 0:08I was going to ask you about the name,
- 0:09how you say the parent name company.
- 0:11I mean, I'm familiar with, uh, with armor
- 0:12light, but how do you say the other one?
- 0:15Aria.
- 0:16Aria.
- 0:17Okay.
- 0:18So you're actually with Aria, but Aria,
- 0:20uh, uh, uh, armor light is part of Aria.
- 0:23That's right.
- 0:24Yeah.
- 0:24All right.
- 0:25All right.
- 0:26So, uh, Kale has been, uh, an obsessive
- 0:29car truck bike
- 0:30enthusiast since he could crawl.
- 0:33Did you have one of those little electric
- 0:34vehicles like the
- 0:35little electric jeeps or,
- 0:37Oh man, you know, my neighbor had one and
- 0:39I tried to write it every time I could,
- 0:40but folks just went by it.
- 0:42So no, no power wheels for me, but I was
- 0:44obsessed with them too.
- 0:46When my, when my kids were about that
- 0:48age, those things were 300 bucks,
- 0:50which nowadays isn't too bad.
- 0:52But back then that was a bunch of money.
- 0:54Yeah.
- 0:55My parents would laugh
- 0:56at me if I asked for one.
- 0:58Yeah.
- 0:58And you wouldn't even get a, we'll see.
- 1:01Yeah.
- 1:04And hopefully you've
- 1:05forgotten about it by then.
- 1:09All right.
- 1:09So he's worked and played in many fields
- 1:11of aftermarket road racing,
- 1:13mini trucks, uh, off
- 1:14road trucks, hot rods,
- 1:15motors and ockles, and of course, Jeeps
- 1:18was a fabricator in the
- 1:19hot rod restoration world.
- 1:21That's, that sounds like that'd be a lot
- 1:22of fun with the
- 1:23exception of the customers.
- 1:24Came on with Aria to help grow
- 1:26aftermarket and armor light by doing
- 1:29events and wheeling.
- 1:30Now overseeing, seeing the division, uh,
- 1:33continuing to grow
- 1:34armor light and launching
- 1:35Aria acoustics, Aria acoustics.
- 1:38All right.
- 1:39So, oh, and also, uh, you need to go over
- 1:41to a go armor light.com.
- 1:44And I think I gave Dave a
- 1:45hard time about, about this.
- 1:46I guess armor light.com wasn't available,
- 1:48but go armor light.com.
- 1:51All right.
- 1:52So I've got to ask you with kids and
- 1:56everything, uh, you know, that you,
- 1:58you're going to either have this
- 1:59conversation or had this
- 2:00conversation with them.
- 2:02You are, you were doing a lot of stuff.
- 2:04That was, I would think at least from a
- 2:06parent perspective, isn't making money.
- 2:09It's you being an adult and playing off
- 2:11road and doing things that, you know,
- 2:13that they're, they're afraid that you're
- 2:14not going to be able to
- 2:15take care of yourself.
- 2:16At some point, did your mom say, Sonny,
- 2:18it's time for you to
- 2:19start paying attention to
- 2:20things that make you money.
- 2:22No, not at all.
- 2:25I think I had the most supportive parents
- 2:28and they knew that I
- 2:31had a passion that if
- 2:33they tried to subdue it, it would just
- 2:35push them away from me probably.
- 2:37And I think, you know, my dad always had
- 2:40the normal steady job.
- 2:42He was a commercial
- 2:43fisherman, electrician.
- 2:45And, uh, I, I think he always dreamt of,
- 2:49of doing something car
- 2:50related for a living.
- 2:52And, uh, so he encouraged me to do it,
- 2:55uh, to live vicariously through it.
- 2:57Now that he's retired, he's, he's trying
- 2:59to do a little something on the side, uh,
- 3:01trying to figure it out.
- 3:02And you know, I'm, I've been to been torn
- 3:04out nowadays in that regard.
- 3:06So are you guys a far, a pretty far
- 3:08distance apart or is he able to,
- 3:10to dip into the things
- 3:11that you're working on?
- 3:13My dad lives about 45 minutes from me.
- 3:15He was an airplane hanger out in the
- 3:17country, uh, off an airstrip
- 3:19next to a skydiving school.
- 3:21It's kind of like the prime retire spot.
- 3:24His house is 90% shop and there's like an
- 3:27apartment in there for him.
- 3:29And, um, that's this, that's all he does
- 3:31all day, every single day.
- 3:33So it's not like you, it sounds like you
- 3:34might be jealous of him.
- 3:36Well, I've got a pretty good setup too,
- 3:38but you know, I, I think
- 3:39I rubbed off more on him
- 3:41the last, uh, you know, 20, 30 years that
- 3:44he, he, it was always like
- 3:46a thing that he was into.
- 3:47He built motors in the Navy and, um, you
- 3:50know, watching what I was
- 3:52doing and, and just going
- 3:53the car shows with me and trying to be as
- 3:55involved as possible.
- 3:57He, he wanted to wrench
- 3:58more than he ever could.
- 3:59So his whole retirement was just so that
- 4:02he had time to work in his shop.
- 4:05What does he fly?
- 4:06He actually doesn't fly.
- 4:08It just happened to be that this building
- 4:10had a place to live and
- 4:12was a big building that he
- 4:13could put all his equipment and stuff in.
- 4:15So, um, he, he's
- 4:17friends with all the guys.
- 4:18He's never been up in
- 4:18one of their planes.
- 4:20Really?
- 4:21Yeah.
- 4:21I mean, it's the perfect spot.
- 4:23They have them all over the place.
- 4:24They're like these little condos that
- 4:26people who want to travel
- 4:27and they fly their own plane.
- 4:29And then they stay at this spot.
- 4:31It was just a big place that had a nice
- 4:33kitchen and a decent mass,
- 4:35uh, bedroom and living room.
- 4:38The rest of it was a airplane hangar.
- 4:40So he just, he saw it as a shop building.
- 4:42Yeah.
- 4:43The ones that are, I mean,
- 4:44I've never, never visited one.
- 4:46So I don't know how nice they are, but
- 4:47the ones I've always,
- 4:48uh, thought would be cool
- 4:50is houses along the strip.
- 4:52And then you have a garage at your house
- 4:55that you pull your plane into,
- 4:57and then you can just pull the plane out
- 4:58and take off and come back.
- 5:00That's the high end version.
- 5:02His is a little more, uh, I wouldn't say
- 5:05redneck, but it's, it's
- 5:06basically a metal building.
- 5:08Oh man, there's not, I mean, if you're,
- 5:10if you're into planes, even
- 5:12if you're not flying them,
- 5:13if you're into planes, how cool is it?
- 5:15Just a, cause you
- 5:16know, you can walk around.
- 5:17It's better than watching that the
- 5:19neighbors working on their
- 5:20vehicle or not walking over
- 5:21there and asking them questions, not
- 5:24actually get involved, but just looking
- 5:25and living vicariously
- 5:27like what you were saying.
- 5:28So I can, I can well imagine it'd be a
- 5:30lot of fun to be a lot
- 5:31of different planes that,
- 5:31an airport where the, it has the, the
- 5:34living facilities like that.
- 5:35It's mostly the skydiving
- 5:37school that resides there.
- 5:39That's the funnest part. Um, cause you,
- 5:42they, they're flying
- 5:43in and out on, you know,
- 5:44you on a weekend and you're hanging out
- 5:46and our bay doors open,
- 5:47we're working on stuff and that
- 5:48plane's taken off and the people are
- 5:50waving to you, waving
- 5:51to them as they go up.
- 5:53And then you see them up above the shop
- 5:55skydiving in. And, um, so
- 5:58it's, there's always something
- 5:59and you get some pretty fun people that
- 6:02go out, you know, they're
- 6:03definitely the adventurous
- 6:04type. So they're pretty interesting.
- 6:06Yeah. I bet you that is a, a very, um,
- 6:10varying emotional place,
- 6:12the emotions before you go up
- 6:15and the emotions when you come down.
- 6:17Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Some people are
- 6:19definitely paying attention
- 6:20and waving and some people
- 6:21are just staring off into space as they
- 6:23go up. So pretty much.
- 6:27Yeah. Well, that's really, really cool.
- 6:30Okay. So, uh, how long
- 6:32have you actually been with
- 6:33Aria? Uh, so I started with Aria in
- 6:37January of 2021 and, uh, they launched
- 6:41armor light in 2020.
- 6:45I think the, the day they announced it
- 6:48made a site live was March of
- 6:502020, which obviously COVID.
- 6:53Um, but, um, you know, they, everybody
- 6:56knows that everybody
- 6:58started spending like crazy
- 6:59because they're at home drunk and they
- 7:02still had their Jeep. So it actually
- 7:04worked out pretty good
- 7:05for the company and they were able to
- 7:06bring me on pretty early.
- 7:07And, um, you know, the first few
- 7:10years were interesting just because of
- 7:11the limitations, but we,
- 7:13we still grew the brand
- 7:15really quickly and,
- 7:16uh, we had a ton of fun.
- 7:18So, I mean, I mean, uh, it's like
- 7:20anything I'm sure, but you
- 7:21had to be a little nervous.
- 7:23Coming on, uh, at that was a big unknown,
- 7:26the big COVID unknown. I
- 7:28mean, you need customers and
- 7:30if COVID COVID takes out, uh, three
- 7:32quarters of the population,
- 7:33I guess it's kind of kind of
- 7:34suck for sales. Yeah. You know, it never
- 7:38really crossed my mind. Um,
- 7:40they just, they, they had a
- 7:42lot of aspirations and, uh, there was
- 7:45just so much to do. Uh, I, I don't think
- 7:48I was really nervous.
- 7:49I think everybody else working with was
- 7:51just, you know, it's, it's
- 7:54like being a part of a startup,
- 7:55even though it's a big company, the group
- 7:57that started Armalite
- 7:58was really like this
- 8:00rogue little niche of a small batch of
- 8:02people. And it had the influence from all
- 8:05the best of the best
- 8:06in, in, in this field, all the people
- 8:09that have been engineering
- 8:09these products for their entire
- 8:11life under the restrictions of some OEM
- 8:14was basically given free
- 8:16reign to do whatever it
- 8:17takes to make an awesome product. And the
- 8:20CEO at the time was a, uh, he was a
- 8:23wheeler and, um, he,
- 8:26uh, had a love for the aftermarket. And
- 8:29so he was like, go for it.
- 8:30Let's, let's figure it out. And
- 8:33so, you know, all the enthusiasts in the
- 8:34company really got to
- 8:35just do what they loved. And
- 8:37we got to go wheeling and talk to people
- 8:40and, and see like, is there
- 8:41something that our company
- 8:43in our expertise, can we offer to improve
- 8:47your vehicle or improve
- 8:48your experience or solve a
- 8:50problem? And it's, you know, it's not the
- 8:53coolest thing out there.
- 8:54Like suspension and wheels and
- 8:55lights are obviously like, that's the,
- 8:58the really cool braggable type
- 9:00components. But I think that
- 9:02we, we definitely took the opportunity
- 9:05and made a well performing
- 9:08product. That's very well
- 9:10engineered. And I think that's cool
- 9:12because it's, uh, you know, I had a
- 9:15Bronco, uh, first gen Bronco,
- 9:18yeah, 20 years ago and it was lined and I
- 9:22used to brag how I could
- 9:23hose it out. I thought it was
- 9:25the coolest thing. Like, Oh, I got mud in
- 9:26it. I just get the hose and
- 9:27hose it out. And there's a hole
- 9:28in the floor. Um, but it was hot. And
- 9:32that was the feedback we
- 9:34got on the trail was, um,
- 9:37anybody who got rid of carpet, it was the
- 9:39trade off was 240 degree
- 9:43sheet metal. And if you had a
- 9:44Hemi swap or LS swap or whatever, uh,
- 9:48you're just cooking, you know,
- 9:50your, your shoes are melting.
- 9:51Your spouse doesn't want to ride with you
- 9:53to the event. Uh, it's
- 9:55too loud. Um, it, you know,
- 9:58it's functional, but unless it's a trail
- 10:01buggy, it, it just, it
- 10:04leaves a lot to be desired.
- 10:06And so, you know, we basically looked at,
- 10:09um, you know, like a
- 10:10Rhino line interior and we're
- 10:13like, well, we can give you a similar
- 10:16texture grip, cleanability, durability,
- 10:20but we can insulate it.
- 10:22And that was kind of the big aha moment,
- 10:25um, was, you know, we can add a
- 10:28waterproof insulator
- 10:29behind it. We can put a drain plug in it.
- 10:32Uh, the drain plug thing
- 10:33kind of happened by accident
- 10:34because we were talking to people on the
- 10:36trail and it was like, well,
- 10:37we can rinse it out, but how
- 10:38would you rinse it out? You know, so
- 10:40we're like, well, there's already holes
- 10:42in the floor on JKs,
- 10:43TJs, everything. Let's just put a drain
- 10:46in there that has a little
- 10:47lid. Um, and it gave it a direct
- 10:51path outside. So it actually clicks into
- 10:53the sheet metal. So it's not like going
- 10:54underneath the format,
- 10:55like your Mopar one, you take the plug
- 10:57out of the Mopar format and
- 11:00awesome. You rinse it out.
- 11:01It goes right under the carpet because
- 11:03there's, there's nothing
- 11:04like, there's no clear pathway
- 11:06outside. Right. Um, so that's all stuff
- 11:09that we developed in
- 11:11those early years. And, um,
- 11:13and it's kind of, it's grown from there.
- 11:15Yeah. I'm glad you
- 11:16mentioned the liner thing,
- 11:17the like the Rhino linings thing because
- 11:19it never really clicked
- 11:20before. That's exactly what the
- 11:22armor light thing is. The top of it, it
- 11:24has texture and it's very
- 11:26similar to like a Rhino line,
- 11:28but you have the acoustic baffle, you
- 11:30have the heat baffle and
- 11:33you're able to keep the,
- 11:34if it does get wet for some reason,
- 11:36because we don't always,
- 11:38all of us don't always just go
- 11:39through enough water just to keep it
- 11:41inside the fitted mat.
- 11:43Uh, if it does get in there,
- 11:45you can take it out and, uh, it'll dry.
- 11:47And then you don't have
- 11:48that nasty, moldy smell,
- 11:50smell, whatever you're right. When you
- 11:51get it, uh, get it cleaned up.
- 11:53Yeah. There's no cotton in there. We, we
- 11:56kind of, you know, you
- 11:57have to make it installable.
- 11:59Um, you have to make it usable. Uh, so
- 12:03it's not completely
- 12:04watertight, right? And you know,
- 12:07there's people that question us about
- 12:08that. Well, we, we, we have
- 12:11all the labs do all the testing.
- 12:13We tested our fiber. It's a, it's a
- 12:15polyester blend. There's
- 12:17nothing organic in it that can
- 12:19absorb water. Um, so it doesn't mold or
- 12:23mildew. We have extensive
- 12:24testing that prove it. Um,
- 12:27you know, and we, if you sink it and
- 12:30then, you know, you can pull
- 12:32it out, uh, or if it's pretty
- 12:34clean water, I usually just pull the,
- 12:37actually have a Samsung here
- 12:38for those that are actually
- 12:39watching, you can pull their little drain
- 12:41plug completely out and
- 12:44it will create that pathway
- 12:46between the floor and the sheet metal.
- 12:49And so then you can lift that up and it
- 12:51will kind of air dry
- 12:52on its own. But you know, if you get some
- 12:54of that nasty algae water,
- 12:56well then that's something
- 12:57more differently. You might want to rinse
- 12:59it off. The whole
- 13:01installation procedure, I believe,
- 13:02and you correct me on this on the, uh, I
- 13:04think it's the, the TJ
- 13:05through the, the JLJT is a pretty
- 13:08involved. It's not a pop it in. It's not
- 13:10like putting the Mopar
- 13:11floor mats in. It's something
- 13:13that you've got to unbolt a few things
- 13:15and, and get fitted in
- 13:17there, which is kind of a negative
- 13:19as far as taking time to install, but a
- 13:21positive as far as it
- 13:22being installed and fixed where
- 13:25you're, it's not going to move around on
- 13:26you. Yeah. I mean, this is
- 13:28what sets us apart. We're,
- 13:30we're not a floor mat. Uh, we're not
- 13:33really just a liner. We're a floor
- 13:35replacement system. Um,
- 13:37Oh, I'm glad you mentioned that. That's
- 13:39important. It's like you
- 13:40take all the factory stuff out,
- 13:42all the carpet and all that stuff out.
- 13:45And this replaces all of it
- 13:46front and back. You can buy
- 13:48the, just the front, just the back or the
- 13:50whole, the whole thing. Um,
- 13:53it goes under your console,
- 13:55under your trim. Um, and it replaces
- 13:59everything that was
- 14:00carpeted in the vehicle. Uh, it,
- 14:02it is a little more extensive to install.
- 14:06Um, but we, you know, we
- 14:09try to provide really clear
- 14:10instructions. Uh, it requires basic
- 14:13tools. Uh, if you've ever
- 14:14done wiring on your vehicle,
- 14:16you could take your trim off. Um, you
- 14:18know, Jeepers are not afraid to turn a
- 14:21wrench and if not, man,
- 14:22there's a bunch of shops that we work
- 14:24with out there and, uh,
- 14:26they're happy for three,
- 14:27four hour labor to do a full install. Um,
- 14:30pick it up later. It's
- 14:31already done, you know,
- 14:32or have you to lift done and have them do
- 14:33it at the same time.
- 14:35Um, and that coverage is,
- 14:38really important getting under the trim.
- 14:40That's how we try to make
- 14:41it as feasible for being out
- 14:44in the weather as possible. A regular
- 14:46liner. That's, that's
- 14:47where your issue is, is because
- 14:50that, um, it runs down the trim. It's
- 14:52going right onto the
- 14:53carpet. It's going to wick right
- 14:55underneath it. Uh, with our floor being a
- 14:58complete replacement and
- 14:59even like on our jail JT,
- 15:01there's a wall on the side underneath
- 15:03that trim. So you can fit
- 15:05about a gallon of water in the
- 15:06floorboard, uh, before it would actually
- 15:09go over that trim and get
- 15:11into any of the installation
- 15:12area. Um, JT, uh, TJs are even better
- 15:16just by design. You got
- 15:17out to the door sill that,
- 15:18that thing, you could have a little
- 15:20kiddie pool if your feet are hot.
- 15:23You can get it real deep on a DJ. There's
- 15:25a big lift on that tub. Yeah.
- 15:28Yeah, absolutely. So yeah, I agree. I
- 15:30mean, it's not the easiest
- 15:31thing to install, but, um,
- 15:33we, we tried to find a middle ground on
- 15:35B&L and install it, but
- 15:36providing a well-engineered,
- 15:38extremely well-fitting product that, um,
- 15:41it just, it, it's not like
- 15:44anything else on the market.
- 15:47Now, I don't know if you have these
- 15:48stats, but how does it compare to, uh,
- 15:50the, uh, the heat and
- 15:52sound deadening of the standard, uh,
- 15:55Jeep, uh, carpet? Uh, so, uh,
- 15:58we designed it primarily for
- 16:01heat and as a default from that, uh, we
- 16:05actually made pretty big
- 16:06strides on it from an acoustic
- 16:07standpoint as well. So the most
- 16:10impressive thing about it is, uh, so
- 16:13anyway, it has a JK. Uh,
- 16:15if you're running a stock setup, your
- 16:18catalytic converter sits
- 16:19right underneath the driver floor
- 16:20board. It makes that sheet metal there
- 16:23under your carpet, 240
- 16:25degrees. Uh, we've tested this in our
- 16:2830 minutes of use, ambient temperature of
- 16:31about 75. You see 240 on
- 16:33the sheet metal and, uh,
- 16:35at the same time, it's a dual temperature
- 16:38probe, one on top, one
- 16:40underneath, you see 100 degrees
- 16:42on the surface of the, of the armor light
- 16:44floor. So that's 140
- 16:45degree differential between that
- 16:48TPO and that polyester insulator. That's
- 16:52going to make a huge
- 16:53difference. Uh, like when you're out
- 16:55of Rubicon, imagine it can get very hot,
- 16:58uh, especially going slow
- 16:59all the time. Yeah. If you're
- 17:01doing a Rubicon and you're doing 12 plus
- 17:04hours, uh, at half a mile an
- 17:07hour, um, you know, I did it
- 17:10this year and, um, you know, my, my, uh,
- 17:14brake fluid boiled, uh, but
- 17:16my, my, my feet were fine.
- 17:19My tushy was nice and cool. Yeah. That
- 17:21was fine. Yeah. I barely used air
- 17:23conditioner actually.
- 17:25So, and then, you know, not only with
- 17:27heat, but it helps with
- 17:28road noise. So you're driving a
- 17:29breakdown the freeway if you're going
- 17:32long distance in your rig. Um, and so
- 17:35you're going to have a fair
- 17:36amount of wind noise, especially if you
- 17:38have a soft top, but one of
- 17:40the things we can control is
- 17:42the noise that comes from underneath. So
- 17:45your aggressive tires, um,
- 17:47just road noise in general,
- 17:49stiff suspension that all transfers up
- 17:51through that floorboard.
- 17:53And so if you, if you want to
- 17:56look at it from just a pure data
- 17:59standpoint, the decibel improvement on
- 18:03paper isn't really that
- 18:04great. Um, you know, I can't remember
- 18:07what it's a factor of like
- 18:08one decibel. Everybody says, oh,
- 18:09dynamat in, and I had 10 decibels lower.
- 18:12I'm like, that's
- 18:12absolutely impossible. Um, that's
- 18:14marketing BS. Um, what we do see is that
- 18:18those lower frequencies
- 18:20from that road noise do
- 18:21dramatically drop. And so the
- 18:25improvements, the perceived improvement,
- 18:27you can have a conversation
- 18:29with your passenger while you're humming
- 18:31down the road at 75 miles an
- 18:33hour and you got 37s or 40s
- 18:35humming. You can, I do phone calls, uh,
- 18:39uh, from, uh, Bluetooth, uh,
- 18:42in the Jeep, um, which I would
- 18:45have never expected to be able to do
- 18:46before. Um, now if you have a
- 18:48convertible top, you're, you're
- 18:50probably not going to see the same
- 18:51improvement, but it, uh, it definitely
- 18:53helps. Um, but again,
- 18:55that insulator was built primarily to
- 18:58withstand the elements and reduce the
- 19:01heat because like I said
- 19:02earlier, those Hemi guys were melting
- 19:04their shoes. They, the AMW is
- 19:07producing thousand horsepower
- 19:09Hemi gladiators. And these guys are
- 19:12spending a fair amount of
- 19:14money, large amount of money
- 19:16for these rigs. And then their wives
- 19:18wouldn't even want to go on a trip with
- 19:19them. If they want to go
- 19:20to smoky mountain for Michigan, no way
- 19:23they didn't want to do it. And so they
- 19:24use our floors and I
- 19:26think 90% of their bills for that reason.
- 19:29Now, um, I don't know this,
- 19:32I don't remember, uh, ever
- 19:33speaking to your predecessor about this
- 19:35to me, this sounds like
- 19:37some stuff that Jeep would like
- 19:39to have in the vehicle. One over there
- 19:41rolling it out the door. Um, I
- 19:43understand they might not want
- 19:44to put it in all the wranglers and
- 19:46gladiators because only about
- 19:4890%, 95% of people actually,
- 19:51I mean, 5% actually take it off road, but
- 19:54I could certainly see like on the
- 19:56Rubicons or maybe the
- 19:57special Rubicon packages that this ought
- 20:00to be one of the things
- 20:01that you can get. I mean,
- 20:02why not? Is it? Okay, good. That's where
- 20:05I was going. Yeah. So we,
- 20:07uh, we partner with Mopar,
- 20:09um, a couple of years ago. And so if you,
- 20:13uh, go into build your
- 20:14vehicle and you click all the
- 20:16boxes for the accessories you want to
- 20:17add, they have an option. It's called the
- 20:20JPP Jeep Performance
- 20:23Products, uh, vinyl floor. And, uh, it's
- 20:27our front and rear kit with
- 20:29Jeep plugs, uh, same product.
- 20:32We don't degrade it in any way. We ship
- 20:34it the same way. Um, we,
- 20:36um, we, uh, we don't make the
- 20:40cargo area. Um, they, I don't know if
- 20:44we're going to, but if any of you guys
- 20:47out there do buy a new
- 20:49Jeep and you get that, that flooring
- 20:51option and you have carpet in
- 20:52the back, you can absolutely
- 20:54just add the additional pieces from Armor
- 20:57Light. Uh, and since they
- 20:59are the same product, it does,
- 21:01uh, match up. And we've talked to them
- 21:03about adding it to some
- 21:04other vehicles. There's
- 21:05possibilities for some buzz models, but,
- 21:08um, you know, there's, you
- 21:10run into some things like,
- 21:11I don't know if you guys are all aware,
- 21:13but there's a big, uh,
- 21:14aluminum plant fire. And, um,
- 21:18so a lot of the body panels are made out
- 21:20of aluminum. Well, they
- 21:22had to switch back to steel
- 21:23in some cases. And so the gross vehicle
- 21:28weight has altered and now there's kind
- 21:30of a pause on some of
- 21:31the optional or factory options that can
- 21:35be added because they
- 21:36have to stay under a certain
- 21:37gross vehicle weight. So we've been kind
- 21:39of back and forth trying
- 21:40to, cause we were supposed to
- 21:41roll out in the, uh, I think it was the
- 21:43rewind, uh, buzz model.
- 21:45And, um, um, and then that got
- 21:48paused because, uh, because of this whole
- 21:50aluminum plant fire. So
- 21:52we're, we're not sure if we're
- 21:53going to be on any buzz models in the
- 21:55near future. Uh, but JL and
- 21:58very soon, uh, JT, I would say
- 22:01around January, you might be able to
- 22:04start checking the box.
- 22:05Maybe even as early as December,
- 22:07you can check a box to have a, uh, our
- 22:10kit installed from the factory.
- 22:12That's really cool. Um, and then I think,
- 22:15I don't think I'm the only
- 22:16one. When I think of Jeep,
- 22:18I think of an off-road vehicle. And when
- 22:20I think of an off-road vehicle, I don't
- 22:22think luxury carpet.
- 22:25No, yeah.
- 22:27I don't think something that is not going
- 22:29to smell very good, whatever it gets wet,
- 22:32you know, something that's rugged and you
- 22:35don't have to worry
- 22:36about. And that's the way I've
- 22:37always thought of their armor light
- 22:39stuff. And to me, I like a coin the
- 22:41phrase OEM plus that's kind
- 22:43of the way I feel about the armor rights,
- 22:45armor light stuff, OEM plus
- 22:47something you actually should
- 22:48be able to get from the factory. It
- 22:49should come from the factory
- 22:50like that. So I'm glad to hear
- 22:52you can get it as an option through a
- 22:53JPP. Yeah. Yeah. I think a lot of, uh,
- 22:56new vehicle companies
- 22:58that are watching the off-road growth and
- 23:02overlanding and, um,
- 23:04just the outdoor experience,
- 23:06people with dogs. I mean, if you look at
- 23:07the Subaru branding,
- 23:08they're going hard on, you know,
- 23:11how suitable they are for your pets. Uh,
- 23:14a lot of the, a lot of
- 23:15them are realizing that carpet
- 23:16doesn't make sense. I mean, we have an ad
- 23:18campaign that you guys
- 23:19might've seen it on your Facebook or
- 23:21Instagram where we show like the old
- 23:23seventies bathroom with the
- 23:25carpet on the toilet and the
- 23:26walls and everything. We're like, carpet
- 23:28doesn't make sense here. Why
- 23:29do you have it in your Jeep?
- 23:31It just, it doesn't make sense. And I
- 23:33think that the OEMs are
- 23:35finally realizing that.
- 23:37Only makes sense if you
- 23:38don't drink to excess.
- 23:42That's true. Yeah. But do you want to lay
- 23:44on the ground in the
- 23:45shag bathroom? That's
- 23:47been around for a while. I know. I know
- 23:49the splatter factor. Yeah.
- 23:51Did you close that lead
- 23:52before you fly? Yeah, I got it.
- 23:55I mean, and that's the thing about our
- 23:57life. You know, your,
- 23:58your, uh, if your co-pilot
- 24:00has had a few too many big gulps and you
- 24:03don't long stretch, I mean,
- 24:04there's a hole right there.
- 24:07You can't stain it and it won't smell
- 24:09afterwards. As long as you're up to down.
- 24:11Is this the thought of it? Your buddy,
- 24:13sure. Your wife, your female companion.
- 24:16Probably not. Maybe not.
- 24:19This is where I got you.
- 24:20I got better aim than you.
- 24:24Yeah. We talked about having like a, uh,
- 24:26for April fools, we're
- 24:27going to release like a special
- 24:29for attachment. Oh yeah. That's actually
- 24:33a really good idea. Uh, that
- 24:34probably would sell and you
- 24:36could make it where it popped right into
- 24:37that hole. Yes. Yeah.
- 24:39Yeah. Maybe we'll get in the
- 24:41trucker business. No, you're trying to
- 24:43make us it's 19 hour
- 24:44drive for me between here and
- 24:46Southeast Texas to, uh, uh, Moab, Utah.
- 24:49So, uh, a drainage hole
- 24:51will be really, really good.
- 24:52Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've done the same
- 24:56drive. I haven't used it that way yet,
- 24:58but it does cost my mind. All right. So
- 25:02we've talked about
- 25:03drainage holes, you guys,
- 25:04and I think this is a really good idea. I
- 25:07mean, it's, it's not as
- 25:08far as the importance level.
- 25:10It's like putting those colored hinges on
- 25:12the, uh, the door hinges
- 25:13on the outside of the Jeep.
- 25:15There's no real good reason for that. Uh,
- 25:19but it's, it's kind of cool
- 25:20cause you can accent your Jeep,
- 25:22but you can do the same thing with the
- 25:23floor plugs because you guys
- 25:24have them in various colors.
- 25:26Yeah. We're, you know, we, we are more of
- 25:29a subdued, uh, product.
- 25:31We're not the most flashy, but
- 25:33we do realize that, you know, a lot of
- 25:37folks out there that are in the Jeeps,
- 25:38they color coordinate
- 25:40and, um, so you can, you can get your
- 25:43color drain plugs. Um, our
- 25:46primary color that comes with the
- 25:47kit is black. Uh, but, uh, we also
- 25:50promote the orange a lot. The
- 25:52good thing there is actually
- 25:53some use to this is that, um, if you're
- 25:56out in the dark and you,
- 25:59maybe it starts raining and you
- 26:00didn't anticipate it with one of the
- 26:02bright color plugs, you can
- 26:04see it down there and you can,
- 26:06you can pop outlet. So there is a, that
- 26:08was actually the design for
- 26:09the orange plug to begin with.
- 26:11Um, but it quickly was like, do you have
- 26:15it in green? Do you have it in purple?
- 26:17Do you have a pink? And yeah, so we've
- 26:19done that. And we also
- 26:20offer the entire floor in a, uh,
- 26:23a khaki color. So like a light tan. Um,
- 26:26and those are the two
- 26:27flooring options we have had requests
- 26:29for some crazy colors. Oh, I'm sure. I'm
- 26:33sure there's a Christmas
- 26:34one. It looks like candy
- 26:35drive. Yeah. Yeah. Not, not going to
- 26:37happen. Uh, we've had,
- 26:40we've had people ask if they can
- 26:41paint it. Uh, I don't recommend it, but
- 26:43well, it's flexible stuff.
- 26:45So that would be, I mean,
- 26:46you can get flexible paint, but I think
- 26:48that's, this could be a
- 26:48nightmare before we get too far
- 26:50along for the people that are watching.
- 26:51Can you hold that, that
- 26:52sample that you just, just had
- 26:54and show us the edge. Look how thick that
- 26:58stuff is. Look at how
- 27:00thick that is. That's the thing
- 27:02really amazed me. So you have your first,
- 27:06uh, layer on top. So
- 27:09that is a TPO. Um, this is,
- 27:13um, it's some, it's, we're not
- 27:15proprietary to TPO itself, but it are
- 27:18formulas proprietary. Um,
- 27:21man, you, you can't scratch it. Uh, I've
- 27:24dragged one of the things I
- 27:25do in events is I'll drag my
- 27:27knife across it and I, I get other
- 27:28people. It's like, go for it. You're not
- 27:30going to mess it up.
- 27:31Um, the texture doesn't wear out. So, um,
- 27:35you know, if you, if
- 27:37anybody wears cowboy boots and
- 27:40they've driven with a regular floor mat,
- 27:41you're going to have a
- 27:42hole in your floor in three or
- 27:43four years. We have time warranty. So if
- 27:46you wear a hole where your,
- 27:47uh, where your foot rest will
- 27:49give you a new product for sure. Um, so,
- 27:52and it doesn't fade.
- 27:53That's the other thing. Uh,
- 27:5410 years, continuous exposure, that means
- 27:5724 hours. So, uh, you
- 27:59know, you, you think about how
- 28:01much sun does your floor actually get
- 28:03through the door and, you
- 28:04know, passing through everything
- 28:06else? Not very much. So the long story
- 28:09short, we lifetime warranty
- 28:11this because it's easy to,
- 28:13we don't really have to, it's just, it's
- 28:15so durable that it, you
- 28:17know, it's easy for us.
- 28:18So, and then you probably won't really be
- 28:20able to tell, but there is
- 28:21another little thin layer
- 28:22in here that's called Dentsy. And, um, I
- 28:26can kind of peel this back,
- 28:28but, uh, that layer is a, uh,
- 28:31that's what adds all the structure. So
- 28:33all these, uh, Chevron ribs, uh, what,
- 28:37uh, the profile that
- 28:39always springs back, um, that layer in
- 28:42there, when we heat it, it is like a
- 28:46bunch of, uh, fibers that
- 28:49and then when you mold it into position
- 28:52and cool it, it, all those
- 28:53fibers, um, they melt into that
- 28:56position and now it's permanent. It will,
- 28:58it will never come back
- 28:59out. And that's really the
- 29:00difference between us and like, uh, any
- 29:02of the liners because
- 29:04they're just vacuum formed. Uh,
- 29:06your floor probably gets hot enough that
- 29:08if you leave something on it
- 29:11and you take an hour drive,
- 29:13it's going to imprint into the floor. And
- 29:15that's the difference with
- 29:16ours. They won't do that.
- 29:18And then you have, uh, this insulator.
- 29:20Uh, this is that polyester. This starts
- 29:23out at 33 millimeters,
- 29:25which is, uh, roughly an inch and a half.
- 29:29Um, and then we compress it, uh,
- 29:31depending on where it's
- 29:32at in the floor. So like in a, um, JLU,
- 29:37you have the area that
- 29:39goes up underneath your, uh,
- 29:42doors that you're showing that because
- 29:44that gives people a better
- 29:45idea of how this stuff actually
- 29:46goes in. Yeah. So, um, you all your areas
- 29:52where you are under the trim or the
- 29:55console or where the
- 29:57plug is, it's, uh, it's all compressed a
- 30:00lot more. And then, uh, wherever your
- 30:02floorboard is or your
- 30:03foot rest is, it's a lot more loftier.
- 30:06And that's what's going to give you some
- 30:07more of that acoustic,
- 30:08uh, performance as well. Right. Yeah. And
- 30:13I don't think I've
- 30:13mentioned it, uh, mentioned it yet.
- 30:15I would say that, uh, it's easy to say
- 30:18that, uh, the Jeep talk
- 30:19show highly recommends the, uh,
- 30:23armor light, uh, flooring for your Jeep.
- 30:25Cause I think it's
- 30:26amazing, especially if you have an
- 30:28older Jeep, uh, my wife has a TJ and it's
- 30:31been, it's gotten nasty a
- 30:33few times and it doesn't
- 30:35require room any times before you say, I
- 30:37need something. And this is
- 30:38something, uh, and correct
- 30:40me on this, this is something you never
- 30:42have to worry about
- 30:43again. You put it in there and
- 30:45the only thing that you may have to do is
- 30:47dry underneath it. If, if
- 30:49you get too much water in
- 30:50there and it goes over some areas, uh,
- 30:53but it, but I think it's very, it would
- 30:54be very unusual. You'd
- 30:55have to be, uh, floating your, uh, your
- 30:58Jeep in the water and submerging it, uh,
- 31:00to get the situation.
- 31:01Yeah. Yeah. If you're floating it above
- 31:03your door sills and the water
- 31:05is dirty, then that's when it
- 31:07becomes a little bit of an issue. Um, it,
- 31:09our floor isn't going to
- 31:11mold, but I can't, you know,
- 31:12you get some nasty stuff under there and
- 31:14you don't want to rust
- 31:17getting started simply because
- 31:18you didn't get it dried out. Yeah. So we,
- 31:21you know, uh, if you go
- 31:23onto our fact page, uh, or
- 31:25talk to us directly, we have ways that
- 31:27help dry them out. Uh, it's
- 31:28easy without having to remove
- 31:30it all the way. It depends on kind of
- 31:31like the level. Yeah. Just
- 31:33try to create a little air gap
- 31:35underneath the floor. Usually, uh, taking
- 31:37that plug out and putting
- 31:39a screwdriver in there just
- 31:40provides a little air gap. That that's
- 31:42really all it needs in a
- 31:43pathway out. So that plug complete
- 31:45coming completely out of the sheet metal
- 31:47gives it that little pathway
- 31:48out. Um, but if you don't have
- 31:52the top and it rains, just undo the plug.
- 31:55It's going to be fine.
- 31:56You're not going to hurt anything.
- 31:58So, uh, okay. So the, the, the people
- 32:00watching listening, they're
- 32:01sold, they want to get some
- 32:03of this stuff. What's the best way to go
- 32:05about getting it? Was it
- 32:06just go to go armor, light.com
- 32:08order it straight from the store. Yeah,
- 32:10you can get it in a
- 32:11bunch of different places,
- 32:12wherever you're really comfortable. Uh,
- 32:14fastest service I can
- 32:15guarantee always comes from our
- 32:17website. We are made in North Carolina.
- 32:19We stock it in North Carolina and we ship
- 32:21it in North Carolina.
- 32:22So everything it comes right off the
- 32:24line, goes on the shelves and then goes
- 32:26in your box the next
- 32:27morning. It's when you place your order,
- 32:29we almost always ship
- 32:30next day. So you go to go
- 32:33armor, light.com, not Armalite like the
- 32:36old AR 15 or the M 16
- 32:38rifles, but armor light.
- 32:40And, uh, and, uh, you can just buy it
- 32:42right on our website. Just
- 32:43find your vehicle and, um,
- 32:45you know, pick your, your, uh, your
- 32:48coverage level. If you're
- 32:49not sure about it, do just the
- 32:52front or do the front rear. Um, but I
- 32:55guarantee you're gonna,
- 32:56you're going to see that carpet in
- 32:57the back and you're going to come back
- 32:58and get the rest. Yeah,
- 32:59absolutely. Yeah. We want you to be
- 33:01comfortable with it. And I know it's not
- 33:03the cheapest thing in the
- 33:04world. Um, so, uh, if you
- 33:08got to buy it in stages, buy it in
- 33:09stages, but we, we tried to
- 33:11make the best product we could,
- 33:12and we, we know we're not the cheapest,
- 33:15but we, we try to provide quality. Um,
- 33:19and we try not to pass
- 33:20on all these extra expenses to you. So
- 33:23we're, we're doing the best
- 33:24we can to, to, to make the
- 33:26product as affordable, but, um, really
- 33:29what it comes down to is that we, we
- 33:31never cut our quality.
- 33:32But that's number one. Yeah. It's really
- 33:35nice stuff. Uh, like I
- 33:36said, I, I told you before we
- 33:37got started and I've told our audience
- 33:39before I got to actually see
- 33:40it, uh, at, uh, at SEMA one
- 33:43year, met Dave in person and, uh, saw the
- 33:45stuff and, and, uh, you
- 33:47know, it's like, it's like we
- 33:49talked about, you can't really get a feel
- 33:51for, uh, for the product. It sounds
- 33:54really, really nice,
- 33:56but you're not for sure. And then when
- 33:58you can literally put your
- 33:59fingers on it and turn it to
- 34:00the side, like I had you do, that was a
- 34:02thing because I walked up
- 34:03to like a sample like that,
- 34:04that there was up there at the, at the
- 34:06display and I went, Oh my
- 34:07God, this is some major stuff.
- 34:09It's tough too. It doesn't feel thin. Uh,
- 34:12it's a, it's substantial
- 34:14and it's like what you want on
- 34:16your Jeep. Uh, I mean, I don't know
- 34:18nothing about nothing, but if I'm going
- 34:19to put something in there,
- 34:20I want it to be tough. I want it to be,
- 34:22uh, I want it to last. And
- 34:23that's exactly what you guys have.
- 34:25You know, um, we were talking about April
- 34:28fool's thing. We often
- 34:29do Jeep talk show million
- 34:30dollar ideas here, and this is actually
- 34:32partially your idea. So what
- 34:34you need to do is you need to
- 34:36get that armor light stuff and make an
- 34:38armor light cover for the, the
- 34:40butt of an AR 15. And then the
- 34:45up there where the, where the barrel is.
- 34:47And you can have like the magpole stuff,
- 34:50this would be armor, armor
- 34:52light that you could put on there.
- 34:53Armor, armor light for your armor light.
- 34:59And then the, then you have all these
- 35:02protests and you get
- 35:03this free advertising.
- 35:05It's probably a field that, uh, I worked
- 35:07for a larger parent
- 35:08company. So, you know,
- 35:10we're a two year one auto supplier. We
- 35:11provide flooring in every
- 35:14vehicle. Um, and pretty sure
- 35:17that Mercedes and GM and all of them are
- 35:21wouldn't be too happy to
- 35:22hear that their tier one is in
- 35:25involved in protests about, uh, so I have
- 35:30to keep, uh, my like or dislike for fire.
- 35:33Orange quiet.
- 35:35Right before you put in your two weeks
- 35:36notice, uh, sign this, sign this through.
- 35:40You know, if, uh, if a couple of pallets
- 35:43of loose material goes
- 35:45missing and, you know,
- 35:48you can do with it.
- 35:49Yeah. I'm glad you brought up Mercedes
- 35:51and other vehicles because the,
- 35:52the armor light stuff isn't just for
- 35:54Jeeps. Uh, you have it for, uh, for other
- 35:56vehicles, uh, as well.
- 35:59We've been branching out. We, uh, we've
- 36:01done, uh, Toyota Tacoma
- 36:03and, uh, the two and four door,
- 36:06uh, six gen Bronco. Um, and besides that
- 36:09one of the, the big new
- 36:11offerings we're going to have that
- 36:12is great for Jeepers, but it's also great
- 36:15for anybody that has a
- 36:17vehicle is we're expanding
- 36:19our acoustic knowledge into the
- 36:21aftermarket. Uh, so, you
- 36:24know, um, all of these acoustic
- 36:28companies, they always say like OEM or
- 36:30OEM grade or as good as OEM,
- 36:33we are the OEM. We have the
- 36:35second biggest sound lab in the United
- 36:37States or an acoustic
- 36:39chamber. Um, we have all of the top
- 36:42engineers that we designed, uh, for these
- 36:46major OEMs, these high end
- 36:48luxury cars. We designed the
- 36:49acoustic environment for them. And so
- 36:52we're taking that
- 36:53technology and doing the same thing,
- 36:55like with armor light, taking the
- 36:56engineers and say, okay, you don't have
- 36:58to make it cheap anymore.
- 37:00What is the best you can do? And we've
- 37:03developed some pretty
- 37:04amazing products and we're,
- 37:05it's going to be based around some
- 37:06education cause it's all fiber based.
- 37:08Everybody thinks that
- 37:09butyl dynamite, Kailh, Matt, that's how
- 37:11you get rid of all the sound. It's a,
- 37:14it's a, um, a dampener
- 37:16or a sound deadener. We're going to be
- 37:18offering a lot of, uh, really high
- 37:20performing products here
- 37:21pretty soon. So it's going to be under
- 37:23our parent company, Aria
- 37:25acoustics, but you can, you'll be
- 37:26able to find it, uh, going to go armor
- 37:28light and any of our booths,
- 37:30anywhere we're at one of the
- 37:31shows, come talk to us in person. And,
- 37:33um, if you have a Jeep out
- 37:36there, that is not just your
- 37:38trail rig that you daily drive it, you
- 37:41have the big tires, but you, you know,
- 37:44maybe you're a lawyer
- 37:46and you have to do phone calls in between
- 37:48events and you're trying
- 37:50your best to be off-road, but
- 37:51you know, your job keeps getting in the
- 37:53way. Well, we have some stuff that's
- 37:55going to help you do that,
- 37:56a little bit quieter and make the
- 37:59overlanding journey a
- 38:00little bit more enjoyable for you
- 38:01and your family. I would actually hazard
- 38:04to say, you shouldn't think
- 38:06of armor light flooring as
- 38:08something is the last thing that you do
- 38:10to your Jeep modification.
- 38:12Um, I think that it's a good
- 38:13idea does to have it there for the
- 38:15protection from the beginning protect
- 38:17your new Jeep. Yeah.
- 38:19It's usually the customers that have a
- 38:21JKU, you know, they sell it
- 38:24and then they get a brand new
- 38:25jail and they had the armor light in the
- 38:29old vehicle because the JK
- 38:31carpet was destroyed when
- 38:33they got it or over the years of their
- 38:35kids and dogs and, you know,
- 38:37mishaps. Uh, and a lot of them
- 38:40say that now that they've had it in
- 38:42another vehicle, they come
- 38:43up to me at an event and they
- 38:44go, you know, I had it in my JKU. I just
- 38:46got a brand new, uh, JLU
- 38:49392. And it was the first thing
- 38:50I put in it, you know, they could have
- 38:52done the lift, they could
- 38:53have done the tires, but
- 38:54it's that thing that you interact with
- 38:56all the time that does
- 38:58have a lot of practical value.
- 39:01And it's not like we do things just to
- 39:03impress other people,
- 39:04but I guarantee you,
- 39:06especially if they're familiar with
- 39:07Jeeps, if they get in your
- 39:08Jeep and they see that flooring,
- 39:11it's going to hit them. Like, what is
- 39:12this? They're not going
- 39:13to understand quietly,
- 39:14quite sure what they're looking at
- 39:16because it looks OEM and they're going to
- 39:19be asking questions.
- 39:20They're going to notice it. It's our
- 39:22number one marketing tool.
- 39:23Our customers are, are the best
- 39:26because, uh, man, I love it. You go, uh,
- 39:29I'll be in Moab and, uh, I'll
- 39:32be talking to a customer and
- 39:33they're sitting there going, okay,
- 39:35they're just learning about it for the
- 39:36first time. And then
- 39:37somebody comes up, they might be drunk.
- 39:40It happens sometimes. They come up and
- 39:42they go, this is the
- 39:43best effing thing I've ever bought for my
- 39:45vehicle. If you don't have
- 39:46it, you have to have it. And I
- 39:48basically just stand back and let them
- 39:50talk to each other because everything
- 39:52coming from my mouth
- 39:53is a sales pitch no matter who I am.
- 39:55You're, you're paid to lie. I
- 39:57mean, let's be honest about it.
- 39:59You don't, you don't have an opinion. You
- 40:00have what the company tells you to do.
- 40:02That's what they believe. I don't care
- 40:04how much the money, but
- 40:06that's the way it's going to be
- 40:07viewed. Yeah. That's yeah. And that's how
- 40:10I get it. I, man, I've
- 40:11been buying part. I bought my
- 40:12first part. Uh, I bought a suspension kit
- 40:15when I was 15. Uh, I had to pay for it
- 40:18on, I did a layaway.
- 40:20Of course. You didn't have a credit card,
- 40:24but you can have a credit card. Yeah.
- 40:27Yeah. I worked, uh, I was 15. Um, I was
- 40:30building a Chevy S10 pickup
- 40:32and, um, uh, you know, I, I'm
- 40:36down this road, but I, I went down to the
- 40:38shop and it was like $600 for
- 40:40the entire kit. It was a big
- 40:41purchase. And this is probably a 95. Um,
- 40:46and, uh, it was a big, big
- 40:48deal. And I was like, I, can I
- 40:50put it out? Like, can I make payments?
- 40:52And basically they, they bought the kit,
- 40:55kept it on the shelf for me and I made
- 40:57three payments with my,
- 40:58yes. And, uh, I, I installed
- 41:02my kit before I was legally able to drive
- 41:04my vehicle. Did you, did
- 41:06you go to the store and
- 41:07visit your, uh, your layaway ever so
- 41:09often? Oh, I was there all the time. They
- 41:11were probably tired of
- 41:12me. Uh, yeah. If it was car or truck or
- 41:16bike related and your
- 41:17business and I had a means to
- 41:18get to your place, I was bugging the hell
- 41:20out of you. I walked by a
- 41:22body shop every day before
- 41:23school. And I was up inside that place.
- 41:25Yeah. I feel bad for the
- 41:27kids. Don't, that don't get
- 41:28excited about things, especially about
- 41:31mechanical things that you
- 41:32can modify and make something
- 41:34yours. You're not building the thing from
- 41:36the ground up, but you're making
- 41:38modifications. You're
- 41:39learning about what to do. And that's one
- 41:41of the things that we're
- 41:41doing here with the Jeep talk
- 41:42show by talking to you guys is we're
- 41:44trying to let the audience know about
- 41:47things that they might be
- 41:48interested in. I find that fun, uh, when
- 41:51I can find something that's
- 41:52really cool and then, and then
- 41:54put all people onto it, especially
- 41:56whenever they had no idea it
- 41:57existed. And it's, it's so much
- 42:00easier now. Like, I mean, not easier just
- 42:03to install it, but like
- 42:05your, your podcast is so
- 42:07dedicated. The Jeeps, you didn't have
- 42:09anything dedicated to a
- 42:11specific genre vehicle that was
- 42:14that easily able, uh, able to obtain
- 42:17besides magazines. That
- 42:18was all we had. Oh yeah. And
- 42:19we didn't have the internet. So there's
- 42:21so much time you can
- 42:22spend in the bathroom.
- 42:25So like, I, you know, if, if it didn't
- 42:27come with instructions or if
- 42:28I didn't see something in the
- 42:29magazine, it was just figuring it out.
- 42:31Like, you know, your best
- 42:32bet was a children's manual,
- 42:34just to understand how stuff went
- 42:35together. Now you got YouTube
- 42:38and all of these little niche,
- 42:40uh, places for people to learn. I, I'm
- 42:43jealous. Uh, I mean, I, I
- 42:45nostalgically look back to
- 42:47the way I came up in it, but, um, I'm
- 42:50surprised that kids don't aren't as
- 42:52interested as they used
- 42:53to be. You know, I hear all my friends
- 42:56are car guys and they all
- 42:57say, my kid doesn't even want
- 43:00to get his driver's license. And that
- 43:03just blows me away. That was just
- 43:05freedom. Get up and go.
- 43:06Well, you can, you can get worse with
- 43:10the, with the cyber cabs
- 43:11too. Cause the really won't be a
- 43:12reason it'll actually be as cheap or
- 43:14cheaper, uh, to take a cab. It'll be like
- 43:18New York for everybody.
- 43:20Yeah, pretty much. I, I still have some
- 43:23faith and, um, I do. And
- 43:26if anybody's listening,
- 43:27if you see that kid that just got a Jeep
- 43:31and old YJ or whatever,
- 43:34and you're driving your
- 43:36three 92, stop by and say hi or you're
- 43:38driving your TJ or your LJ,
- 43:40stop by and say hi to them.
- 43:42Um, you know, I bugged all my neighbors.
- 43:44Um, I, maybe I'm
- 43:47autistic. I really don't know,
- 43:48like I had no problem going up to the
- 43:52people and getting all up
- 43:53in their business. If it
- 43:54was related to anything, motorsports and,
- 43:57um, and there's a few key,
- 43:59uh, key people that I think
- 44:01back on, um, that were like neighbors or
- 44:04just people I encountered
- 44:06that would talk to me and
- 44:09it meant everything. It was just, uh, it
- 44:12opened up a whole world to me.
- 44:13So if you had the opportunity
- 44:15for some kid that was like me, please do
- 44:18it. Don't just get lost
- 44:20on your phone. Just like,
- 44:21go talk to somebody, you know, lend them
- 44:24a hand, show them how
- 44:25to put that thing on,
- 44:27especially if it's wiring, don't let them
- 44:28burn their car down.
- 44:31Exactly. There's some 40 year olds out
- 44:34there that are trying to burn down their
- 44:36jeeps by, uh, 15 amps under the, under
- 44:39the dash. Yeah. What is
- 44:43it that, what is it that
- 44:44they say in politics, it takes a
- 44:46community to, uh, to create
- 44:48a gearhead. So, uh, share,
- 44:50share your, uh, amazement of, uh, motors
- 44:53and vehicles and all
- 44:54kinds of things mechanical.
- 44:56All right. So I can tell we need to, I
- 44:58can tell we need to spend
- 44:59more time because we've just
- 45:01scratched the surface of your background,
- 45:03but, uh, we're gonna,
- 45:04we're gonna wrap that up and
- 45:05wrap this up. And you know how the kids
- 45:06love the social media work
- 45:08and they find you armor light
- 45:11yards, wherever you want to direct them
- 45:12to. Yeah. Uh,
- 45:14everything's go armor light. Um,
- 45:16so we're on Instagram, Facebook, we have
- 45:20content on YouTube. Um,
- 45:22do you want to see what we're doing, what
- 45:23we're releasing? The best way is, uh,
- 45:25just Facebook and Instagram, go armor
- 45:27light.com or, um, at go armor
- 45:30light. Uh, you can find me at
- 45:32at kale withers, K a I L. Uh, if you're
- 45:35interested in what I'm
- 45:36doing, it might be jeep related.
- 45:38It might not be, I'm doing all kinds of
- 45:40stuff. So, uh, but more
- 45:42importantly, come see us at an
- 45:43event. If you see anybody with one of
- 45:45these shirts, you see one
- 45:46of our vehicles at Jeep,
- 45:47Jamboree or out on a trail, come say hi
- 45:50and get to see the product
- 45:52in person. Oh, uh, and I, you
- 45:54know, it's been a while cause I think
- 45:55Dave actually got me this
- 45:57discount code, uh, on our discord
- 45:59server. Uh, you can go on the discord
- 46:02server and do a slash discount and it
- 46:05will show you all the
- 46:06companies that have, uh, we have discount
- 46:08codes with armor light is
- 46:09one of them. I probably need
- 46:11to get the follow up with you after this
- 46:13interview to make sure it's
- 46:14still active. Uh, but, uh, you
- 46:16right now, until we prove otherwise, you
- 46:18can go over to our discord,
- 46:20do a slash discounts and get
- 46:22the armor light, uh, discount, uh, code
- 46:25for, I think it's, I
- 46:26think it was 10% off.
- 46:28So we'll make sure we get you an updated
- 46:30code. Uh, as soon as
- 46:32this goes out and, um, just,
- 46:33you'll go on there and you'll see that
- 46:35code, use it for 10% off.
- 46:37It's going to be anything on our
- 46:38website. That'd be great. Thank you for
- 46:40that. I didn't mean to put you in a
- 46:41corner. Um, but, uh,
- 46:44but the, the, the cool thing about it is
- 46:46on our discord server, it
- 46:47doesn't blast out the code.
- 46:49So I want to warn everybody, if you go
- 46:51over there and do slash
- 46:51discount, it'll show you all the
- 46:53discounts that are available, but it will
- 46:55not give you the code.
- 46:57You actually have to request
- 46:58the company for the code and then it just
- 47:00sends it to you. That's how
- 47:02we get you. That's how we,
- 47:03get you to sign up to discord. You know,
- 47:07and I do ask people, uh, try
- 47:09not to share those codes with
- 47:10all the key phone websites because the
- 47:12more they get shared, they
- 47:14get overused and then we have to
- 47:16shut them down. So we like to keep these
- 47:17codes active, uh, and by
- 47:20your viewers and listeners,
- 47:22people who took the time to listen to us
- 47:26and, uh, listen to our
- 47:27sales pitch and all our gripes
- 47:29and, uh, we want to offer you a discount.
- 47:31So just be responsible.
- 47:33No, absolutely. And the cool thing is, is
- 47:36that, uh, it's, uh, you get
- 47:37it, you get a plus for being
- 47:39part of the Jeep talk show community.
- 47:41That's the way we look at it is you're
- 47:43part of the community.
- 47:43We want to share it with you. I don't
- 47:45care if you come over there, sign up, get
- 47:46the code and go away.
- 47:48At least you can't, but it was the radio
- 47:49shack around and you
- 47:50remember the radio shack cards,
- 47:52battery free battery cards. The whole
- 47:54idea was just getting you
- 47:55in the store because you
- 47:56ain't buying nothing unless you come into
- 47:58the store. Yeah. Yeah.
- 48:01Yeah. All right, Kale,
- 48:02thank you so much for being here. Uh,
- 48:04glad you're here. Uh, so, uh, well, I
- 48:06don't think we mentioned
- 48:07it, uh, Dave, uh, who we've had on the
- 48:09show a couple of times
- 48:09before he is retiring. I think
- 48:11he's part time now and, uh, uh, kale is a
- 48:15beaten up on him, uh, until
- 48:17he goes full retirement. So,
- 48:18uh, glad you glad you were still out
- 48:21there. He's still doing our
- 48:22events and he's out there,
- 48:23repping the brand, but he, he doesn't
- 48:26have to be in any, uh, teams meetings
- 48:28anymore. Thankfully.
- 48:29Oh, no more meetings. Could you imagine
- 48:31actually getting shit done?
- 48:34I talked to him. I hate talking to him
- 48:36because he just goes on
- 48:37about what he's doing and
- 48:39I realized how many years I have left
- 48:41before my, my retirement.
- 48:42And I don't want to hear it.
- 48:45We're glad you there because you guys
- 48:46have some really great
- 48:47products and thank you for that. So,
- 48:49but anyway, I hope to talk to you again
- 48:51and get some more
- 48:51information, especially on some of the,
- 48:53fun things you've done off road. Sure
- 48:55thing. You're my
- 48:56friend. You're my new friend.
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