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SGA & J-DUB in the Clutch Game's 4 & 5! Game 5 Keys to Victory! Who Wins Game 6? Haliburton Injury? · The Rope A Dope Radio Podcast

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Speaker 1: NBA basketball fans, Welcome back to the NBA Playoff Banter Podcast.
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Speaker 1: He's Marshall, I'm Chris, and we're here to talk about
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Speaker 1: this series that is now three to two in favor
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Speaker 1: of OKC. They won back to back games Game four
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Speaker 1: in Game five, and they look to close it out
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Speaker 1: this Thursday in Indiana. And obviously, the first thing that
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Speaker 1: comes to mind is the health of Haliburton. They're talking
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Speaker 1: about a calf. It looked like he was very limited
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Speaker 1: during that game. You know, I don't know what to
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Speaker 1: Having an extra day. I suppose will help you get
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Speaker 1: two days off, but I just don't you know, if
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Speaker 1: they need to take an MRI, more than likely he's
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Speaker 1: gonna be in trouble.
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Speaker 2: But we will talk about Game.
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Speaker 1: Five, of course, just because it was last night. SGA
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Speaker 1: and especially j Dubb just step way up man. Jalen Williams.
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Speaker 1: He's last three games have been very impressive in throughout
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Speaker 1: the whole playoffs really.
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Speaker 2: And then we'll kind of dibble and dabble a little bit.
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Speaker 1: Uh with Game four, I thought it was really impressive
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Speaker 1: how OKAC one, even though they were three of sixteen
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Speaker 1: from three point land and that defense that they played
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Speaker 1: was pretty crazy, and we'll dabble with game three as.
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Speaker 2: Well, because shit, when it was two to one.
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Speaker 1: Speaking of defense, the defense and offense that Indiana played
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Speaker 1: in that fourth quarter was pretty impressive with that too,
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Speaker 1: So we'll dibble a little bit, like I said, with
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Speaker 1: game three and Game four with a little bit more
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Speaker 1: intense in depth review of last night's game, and then
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Speaker 1: you know what will happen in Game six at Indy,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and bring in my co host Marshall.
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Speaker 1: First and foremost, Marshall, how the hell are you doing
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Speaker 1: before we get into this Game five recap, which has
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Speaker 1: been a really fun series.
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Speaker 2: It's definitely lived.
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Speaker 1: Up to uh, you know some of the hype that
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Speaker 1: we talked about going in, and obviously you know that
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Speaker 1: the underdogs really showed up given the fact that they
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Speaker 1: were up to one not long ago.
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Speaker 3: I'm good man. I want to say a shout out
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Speaker 3: to Lane Kiffin.
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Speaker 4: We're getting close to college football season, so I got
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Speaker 4: to give a quote a ready sir, But besides.
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Speaker 3: That, moving on, I'll only I'll only say his name
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Speaker 3: one time.
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Speaker 4: Got three like usual side fly Man laid hey, I
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Speaker 4: think this series has done better than people expected. I
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Speaker 4: know you have like regular well, I would say we're
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Speaker 4: the top probably ten percentile sport fans for all the
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Speaker 4: sports you and I.
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Speaker 3: Love and the patch we have for it.
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Speaker 4: But I would say to a regular sports fan, this
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Speaker 4: series wasn't gig a whole lot of press. But I
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Speaker 4: would say that I would imagine the casual viewers falled
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Speaker 4: into the NBA is not gonna doabas so if they
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Speaker 4: have poor rays, like the league's going away. But I
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Speaker 4: think that this for the most part, Chris has been
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Speaker 4: a pretty fun series to watch.
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Speaker 5: Uh.
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Speaker 3: I do think they need to make an announcer change.
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Speaker 4: I know that one of the reason they couldn't like
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Speaker 4: the bringing Mangunny Jackson didn't work out, but just for
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Speaker 4: kind of a just a quick switch here, Like I'm
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Speaker 4: not a huge fan of the Doris Burg Richard Jeffson
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Speaker 4: bringing either.
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Speaker 3: I would like to see.
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Speaker 4: Someone just different, like it's too I don't know, Like
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Speaker 4: there's a lot of times like in sports I've grown up.
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Speaker 2: There's times that I remember to watching.
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Speaker 4: Sunday a Football when I was like in middle school
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Speaker 4: and like, god, those guys were so good. There's like
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Speaker 4: Doc Everertt from hockey who I love listening to, and
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Speaker 4: the each sport I have like announcers I listened to
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Speaker 4: it are like, man, even if the game sucks, I'll
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Speaker 4: listen to said person, and I don't feel that's quite
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Speaker 4: there in my opinion.
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Speaker 3: And I'm sure people love those and the shirts.
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Speaker 4: People that don't even with the pregame show, like my
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Speaker 4: mom last night we were talking, She's like, well, who's
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Speaker 4: on the pregam show.
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Speaker 3: Like well, Steven A. Smith and other people, And it's like,
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Speaker 3: I feel that they need to.
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Speaker 4: Kind of just twirk a little bit of who's who's
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Speaker 4: in the pregame shows, just to make it just different personalities.
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Speaker 4: Now get that's not I'm not ESPN boss, but I
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Speaker 4: feel they can switch up a little bit. Maybe ABC
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Speaker 4: will push that direction. I don't know, But it's not
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Speaker 4: that we've been having a great series by dislike the
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Speaker 4: announcers announcer.
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Speaker 5: Part, and it's it's given us more fun games talking
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Speaker 5: about what we expected. Well, you know that inside the
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Speaker 5: NBA is gonna be on ESPN, you know that, correct?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well at NBC is gonna be called a lot
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Speaker 4: of games next year too, So, I you know, I'm
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Speaker 4: just maybe maybe they'll switching people up.
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Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm hoping so, but well.
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Speaker 1: They're definitely gonna you know, they're definitely gonna switch up
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Speaker 1: that's for sure. But we'll see exactly which ones, you know,
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Speaker 1: sure end up where they do. They are gonna have
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Speaker 1: like tape stuff with Jordan did you hear that? And
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Speaker 1: oh so he's gonna give his take? Uh? And actually
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Speaker 1: a lot of Jordans fans who always argue for him
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Speaker 1: may not. It kind of sounds like they may not
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Speaker 1: like what he has to say because he's probably gonna
6:18
Speaker 1: be like who gives his ship?
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Speaker 2: Like, get over it, I've been done for a while.
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Speaker 2: Let me be me. Let a guy like Lebron be Lebron,
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Speaker 2: and don't act like there's.
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Speaker 1: Gonna be a bunch of those coming up, like you know,
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Speaker 1: maybe not some mistake pressure on these guys.
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Speaker 2: The shit just kind of happens organically. But yeah, that'll
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Speaker 2: be interesting.
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Speaker 1: I do say like for the regular season and especially
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, for NBC to have it on free TV,
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Speaker 1: that's gonna be a boost no matter what, dude.
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Speaker 2: I do like the.
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Speaker 1: Presentation of TNC, and I do like I like I
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Speaker 1: like inside the NBA.
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Speaker 2: When they're just giving ship to each other.
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Speaker 1: I I do think that both the ESPN and T
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Speaker 1: and T at times make it about themselves too much.
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Speaker 1: That's right, they involved themselves.
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Speaker 2: You know, like Stephen A.
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Speaker 1: Smith was talking about what Haliburton answer. Haliburton answered a
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Speaker 1: question and it had something to do with him. He
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Speaker 1: didn't just start cocking off about Steven A.
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Speaker 2: Smith.
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Speaker 1: But he's up there and Shaq does this and Charles
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Speaker 1: does it, and it's funny when they're getting each other shit.
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Speaker 2: But sometimes they.
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Speaker 1: Make it about themselves and they just dump on players
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Speaker 1: where you're like, dude, like, first of all, Shaq, you
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Speaker 1: were out of shape in twenty twenty four, Like way
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Speaker 1: out of shape. If we want to go back and
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Speaker 1: watch the tape, we can watch your hass not playing defense.
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Speaker 1: Like sometimes I think, and I think it's not just
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Speaker 1: in basketball. I think overall the way people cover sports now,
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Speaker 1: it's just it's about them, and it's about some crazy
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Speaker 1: shit that you're gonna say, and you know it's gonna
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Speaker 1: go virol no matter if it's right or not, or
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Speaker 1: bullshit or not or whatever, and that it's kind of
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Speaker 1: like the world.
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Speaker 4: We live in.
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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, it kind of sucks. Yeah, but you know, it
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Speaker 2: is what it is.
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Speaker 1: There's still you know, quality people out there, but you know,
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Speaker 1: it's it's just less and less, even like the tnt
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Speaker 1: uh the game itself, the All Star game, they had
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Speaker 1: him picking their own teams.
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Speaker 2: It was just like, what, like, why is this about you? Guys?
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Speaker 2: Like I don't understand, And so many dudes on ESPN
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Speaker 2: are like that where it's just like are.
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Speaker 1: We covering the sport or are we just a personality
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Speaker 1: and that's it, you know, yeah, yeah, you know Smith
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Speaker 1: usually leads the way on that. But let's get off
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Speaker 1: of that ship. Let's get onto what we got last night.
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Speaker 1: Okay stee, okay see, started out pretty hot. They were
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Speaker 1: seven of nine from the field, forcing a time out.
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Speaker 1: You saw Sga getting to the rack v back door
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Speaker 1: pass or cut or driving to the bucket. He was
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Speaker 1: looking really good and and he was real sloppy about
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Speaker 1: the ball. Obviously that has to do with okay sees defense,
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Speaker 1: but overall.
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Speaker 2: I didn't I just thought they were a little sloppy.
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Speaker 1: They had seven to one for turnovers in the first quarter,
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Speaker 1: and we know that's a big thing following okay see,
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Speaker 1: you gotta take care of the ball. Mathern came in
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Speaker 1: and they had a nice rundown block and you know,
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Speaker 1: scored some points really quick.
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Speaker 2: But Wallace was like three for three fairly early in
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Speaker 2: this game, and early in this game in the second.
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Speaker 1: Okay, see, at the time is five to eight from three,
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Speaker 1: it's forty to twenty nine. And Haliburton, it is kind
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Speaker 1: of gimpy, you know, he's a little limpy. He went out,
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Speaker 1: then he came back in. He saw Turner was limping
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Speaker 1: a little bit too, I think from a collision. And
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Speaker 1: it seemed to me though in the second quarter, I'm
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Speaker 1: right looking at my notes and he just missing, you know,
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Speaker 1: open shots. And meanwhile, okay, see, much like the fourth
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Speaker 1: quarter just got on fire. They were like six to
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Speaker 1: nine from three and eleven of twelve from the free
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Speaker 1: throw line up at half fifty nine to forty five.
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Speaker 2: What were you thinking at that time?
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Speaker 1: Are you thinking, all right, well, the third quarter is
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Speaker 1: going to be pretty important here, that they better get
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Speaker 1: into this or did you kind of feel like this
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Speaker 1: game is looking kind of rough.
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Speaker 2: Obviously you can't count out in the end, and they
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Speaker 2: did end up catching up. But what were your thoughts
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Speaker 2: at half? And just in that first half?
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Speaker 3: Again, I better first half.
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Speaker 4: I think that's been their moo that they're a really
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Speaker 4: good old team. They are the better team in Vegas's mine,
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Speaker 4: and you see it because their spurts where they play defense,
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Speaker 4: that's like holy shit shit. Like I was texting my
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Speaker 4: my basketball coach, and I was like, I would love
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Speaker 4: to have seen this this Okay, see team play like
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Speaker 4: the first Warriors team and just see like you know,
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Speaker 4: because both those teams were like really good defensive their
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Speaker 4: old ways. I was like with bo get Clay and Igodala.
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Speaker 4: But even so, the thing that pressed me, but okay,
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Speaker 4: see is the.
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Speaker 2: Keep moving in and out of bad and good coverage.
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Speaker 3: Oh okay, all right, it's kind of low.
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Speaker 2: Right now, but I'll let you know when it's high
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Speaker 2: and then you can kind of sit there.
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Speaker 3: Okay, is that better? No, I can hear you.
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Speaker 1: It just it's just hanging on barely, that's all, is it? Okay,
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Speaker 1: it's better right now, You're all good. I could still
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Speaker 1: hear okay, right now, it's perfect.
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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, it's it's uh like that their defense
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Speaker 4: is just tremendous. Like I don't know if the last
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Speaker 4: team I've watched the NBA that has so many half
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Speaker 4: court I can't dribble the ball. Oh shit, turnovers, that's
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Speaker 4: like what happens in high school. And they do it
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Speaker 4: to like these pay like any team on a regular base,
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Speaker 4: which I've really never seen.
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Speaker 3: Like yeah, like that Warriors.
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Speaker 4: Seam I mentioned like Clague, all those guys were good,
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Speaker 4: but the Warriors never had any on ball turnomers.
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Speaker 3: They would just make bad shots and go on runs.
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Speaker 4: But like this, Okay, see, defense is seriously is just
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Speaker 4: like relentless, and that's stuff that I'm just not used
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Speaker 4: to ever seeing like it. Their defense is freaking insane
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Speaker 4: that you're that I'm referencing like what happens to my
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Speaker 4: high school kids. But these are NBA guys make NBA
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Speaker 4: guys look like they can't dribble like that's not normal.
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Speaker 2: It's kind of freezing up right now. I heard a
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Speaker 2: good chunk of it.
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Speaker 1: Because you're talking about defense and how just intense it is,
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Speaker 1: and but you're kind of breaking up in there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, or it looks like I got what bar fire
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Speaker 3: these damn cell phones?
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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I just they're they're the way they play defense.
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Speaker 4: Their bad bad defense is just phenomenal, Like it's I
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Speaker 4: don't know how they do it. It's just the way
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Speaker 4: they make somebody oddball turnovers. I just I don't think
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Speaker 4: that's been done often like they just they they they
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Speaker 4: they played defense different.
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Speaker 3: I've used to watch it as a fan.
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Speaker 1: It didn't improve. Now okay, it's back to being good.
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Speaker 1: So try to stay in that spot. But they may
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Speaker 1: who knows, they may just mess up. But yeah, I
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Speaker 1: was like, kind of like you're saying, like some of
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Speaker 1: its sloppiness on Indiana, but a lot of it's just
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Speaker 1: that pressure that they're bringing the whole time, and it
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Speaker 1: kind of turns you into like you're rushing because you
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Speaker 1: know or even when you take a shot you feel
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Speaker 1: like it's open, all of a sudden, they're right on you.
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Speaker 1: And we talked about that in the Minnesota in the
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Speaker 1: Denver series, how they can they they just react to
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Speaker 1: what's going on, and they have a good game plan.
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Speaker 1: Everybody sticks to it, and sometimes they'll go two guys
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Speaker 1: out there, but then they'll.
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Speaker 2: Be able to scramble right back to the shooter and it's.
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Speaker 1: Just like, all of a sudden, you're kind of rushed
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Speaker 1: and you don't feel like you're getting up a good shot.
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Speaker 4: But but that's your main point right there, is the
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Speaker 4: fact that as a team, because if OKC had one
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Speaker 4: shitty defender, they could not play the defense they play. Now,
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Speaker 4: I'm not saying all five guys are elite, but if
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Speaker 4: you had one of a week, wait, if you had
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Speaker 4: one and a half, like average defenders, you'd be screwed.
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Speaker 4: They could not play the way they play. But as
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Speaker 4: a team, they're nucleus. It's fucking impressive. It really is
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Speaker 4: just that the about a half court pick the ball up,
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Speaker 4: I lost my dribble?
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Speaker 3: Oh shit, what do I do? Turnover?
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Speaker 4: You really don't ever see an NBA because there's so
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Speaker 4: many dribbling like that. Is a tip of the cap
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Speaker 4: to okc's defense and the system they've created as a
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Speaker 4: defensive approach.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, And you know, look like they were in
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Speaker 1: cruise control the up double digits of pheromone. I mean
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Speaker 1: somewhere in the third quarter you had Jalen twenty six
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Speaker 1: points a nine to fifteen shooting, but McConnell had like
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Speaker 1: eleven well, I think he had like ten points in
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Speaker 1: the third or twelve points either driving or you know
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Speaker 1: and laying up or just driving to the spot. How
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Speaker 1: he'll get a little eight or ten foot jumper. And
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Speaker 1: he made a nice little run. And just in general,
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Speaker 1: they made a nice little run. The bench at the
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Speaker 1: time late third had thirty one points and TJ had
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Speaker 1: a really nice end one, and you know it was like, okay,
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Speaker 1: here they come, They're coming, They're coming back. You know,
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Speaker 1: they got it to eighty seven to seventy nine. Jalen
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Speaker 1: hit a tough shot to close that quarter, and Siakam
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Speaker 1: got going as well.
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Speaker 2: I think he hit like a three and it was
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Speaker 2: ninety two to eighty six with plenty you know early
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Speaker 2: on Siaka, you know, just he hit another three, got
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Speaker 2: into ninety five ninety three.
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Speaker 1: But right away, just like they did in the damn
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Speaker 1: you know the Timberwolves series, where you're you're two points
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Speaker 1: away and next thing you know, it's it's a three
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Speaker 1: point shot and it's a steal and it's a bucket,
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Speaker 1: and then it's a time out, and dort would picked
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Speaker 1: up the fourth fall, then he hit a rainbow three
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Speaker 1: and then jailing high off the glass. Like it just
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Speaker 1: they just didn't have enough answers and they just got
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Speaker 1: a lot of like like their studs obviously, you know,
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Speaker 1: jailing forty points thirty one for Alexander, thirteen to fourteen
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Speaker 1: from the line. But you know, also like Wiggins hit
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Speaker 1: four threes, Wallace hit three threes. Dort hit three threes.
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Speaker 1: It was just the turnovers early and late just kind
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Speaker 1: of caught up with them, and there was really it
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Speaker 1: felt like nothing they were gonna build to do. And
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Speaker 1: at the same time, you can see during this game,
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Speaker 1: I think it was the second quarter when Halliburton left
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Speaker 1: and then came back and you're like, man, I wonder
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Speaker 1: if he's okay, And then you could kind of tell
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Speaker 1: he was just super passive, didn't hit a field goal,
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Speaker 1: got going because he was able to get to the
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Speaker 1: free throw line.
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Speaker 2: But you know, hell of a game. They made it close.
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Speaker 1: Like I said, I think that had they knocked down
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Speaker 1: some earlier shots and been in the game and not
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Speaker 1: have to come back so much throughout the game, maybe
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Speaker 1: they would have done better down the stretch. But these
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Speaker 1: games four, in games five, it just it really looked like, okay,
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Speaker 1: see Halliburton or not Halliburton, because Haliburton was there for
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Speaker 1: game four obviously, it just felt like, I don't know,
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Speaker 1: like we'll go back to game four really quick too,
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Speaker 1: like in a second, because they had.
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Speaker 2: That fucking game like Indiana, Yeah, like that was their game, man.
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Speaker 1: But overall Game five, you know, okay, see just just
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Speaker 1: closed it out man, like they're they're just they're a
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Speaker 1: damn good team. And we were just talking about it
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Speaker 1: before we hit record, you know, and just in general,
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Speaker 1: h you mentioned earlier that you know it's gonna be
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Speaker 1: tough to keep all the players, but at least going
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Speaker 1: in the next year.
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Speaker 2: They are just so damn deep and everybody's on the
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Speaker 2: same page.
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Speaker 1: Man.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: It just like when they when they hit threes at home,
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Speaker 4: that team is really hard to be because you know
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Speaker 4: their defenses relentless, They're going to force turnovers, they're gonna
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Speaker 4: put shots up sga at Holbe is gonna play bear
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Speaker 4: out of the road.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 4: I didn't think the rest were a huge part of
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Speaker 4: last night. I think they just played really good basketball,
18:53
Speaker 4: like for like like the five minutes stretch like to
18:55
Speaker 4: it's the they were on a huge run they just
18:57
Speaker 4: couldn't miss.
18:59
Speaker 3: So you already have like a pretty well oiled machine
19:02
Speaker 3: with Jayla.
19:02
Speaker 4: Willis played his ass off and hard side making his
19:06
Speaker 4: couple of buckets here and there. But if you got
19:09
Speaker 4: their role guys or their wigs hitting threes, you're not
19:13
Speaker 4: gonna beat that team.
19:14
Speaker 3: You're just not. Ye, That's what happened.
19:16
Speaker 4: Last night, like the Pacers made a belly comeback, but
19:19
Speaker 4: whether whether threes are dropping and everyone's kind of a groove,
19:24
Speaker 4: like dude, good luck, like the Pacers did it quit.
19:26
Speaker 4: But that yeah, you're you're not gonna beat them where
19:29
Speaker 4: they're win or hit threes. That's they're they're already too
19:32
Speaker 4: much to deal with.
19:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you know what's scary is they couldn't
19:37
Speaker 1: beat them when they're three of sixteen either. Yeah, in
19:40
Speaker 1: the game real quick going to game three, uh, Matthermin
19:45
Speaker 1: was going crazy. That was a competitive game the whole time.
19:49
Speaker 1: And okay, see at one point it was eighteen to
19:52
Speaker 1: eleven with the turnovers. They had a bunch of turnovers
19:55
Speaker 1: a game three and it was like twenty one to
19:57
Speaker 1: ten for points off those turnovers. You know, hal Burton
20:05
Speaker 1: had it going topping had these rebound dunks. They just
20:11
Speaker 1: as a full team once again. They they just they
20:14
Speaker 1: closed out game three and I got yeah in game
20:17
Speaker 1: three when they're up two to one, man, you know,
20:21
Speaker 1: you know we've actually seen Boston was up two to one.
20:26
Speaker 1: Uh was Phoenix up to zip and then they lost.
20:30
Speaker 2: Straight four straight?
20:31
Speaker 1: Or was it two to one? And they lost four straight?
20:35
Speaker 1: So I can't remember Phoenix was up to to zero
20:40
Speaker 1: and that wasn't.
20:41
Speaker 3: Were they or was it Phoenix verse?
20:43
Speaker 1: Who?
20:45
Speaker 5: Uh?
20:45
Speaker 2: When they made the run to the was it Milwaukee? Oh,
20:51
Speaker 2: Milwaukee beat them?
20:52
Speaker 1: That wasn't that the matchup? Remember with Chris Paul bast
21:00
Speaker 1: Ball what do you know got hurt in June?
21:02
Speaker 2: They made the finals not long ago?
21:06
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I can't remember. Obviously in twenty twenty one, okay.
21:10
Speaker 1: Either way they were Uh, I know you remember the
21:12
Speaker 1: Celtics one because it's your golden state.
21:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know, sometimes you can get
21:18
Speaker 2: lost in that two for one. What was your mind
21:20
Speaker 2: state after Game three though?
21:23
Speaker 1: When Boston or not Boston, but when Indies up and
21:26
Speaker 1: you're thinking, wow, like did you kind of feel like, yeah,
21:30
Speaker 1: it's not over.
21:31
Speaker 2: They're not gonna win, They're not gonna go, you know,
21:33
Speaker 2: win the next two right away.
21:35
Speaker 1: But I got admit I didn't necessarily think they'd lose
21:37
Speaker 1: the next two either.
21:39
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, that that game four was that really
21:45
Speaker 3: was a hell of a basketball game. Uh. I don't
21:49
Speaker 3: care what Doris Brooke says.
21:51
Speaker 4: There's no rule NBA that says you're allowed to take
21:53
Speaker 4: three steps to push them it off, like and that
21:55
Speaker 4: was a huge play. But like I watched that play
21:57
Speaker 4: live at SGA did just push off and he lost
22:01
Speaker 4: the ball. He picked it up, he took three steps
22:03
Speaker 4: hit a dumper, which one of the biggest shots in
22:05
Speaker 4: the game. And then she comes out and says, well,
22:08
Speaker 4: when you gather the ball, you get two steps. That's
22:12
Speaker 4: news to me because in my world of coaching basketball,
22:16
Speaker 4: to see in basketball, if if somebody got spice to
22:19
Speaker 4: the ball, like he never lost it, but you're justifying
22:22
Speaker 4: him taking one, two, three steps in front of the
22:25
Speaker 4: ref It don't travel like you know, I don't that's
22:29
Speaker 4: what it was. Places where it's like that was such
22:31
Speaker 4: a huge shot at the gable, like, but the announcer
22:34
Speaker 4: said with the gatherer lost two steps. I would like
22:38
Speaker 4: to see that rule book printing because I didn't know
22:39
Speaker 4: that if you fumble the ball, you know you really
22:42
Speaker 4: lose it, you get two free steps.
22:44
Speaker 3: Plus the third one for fun. I don't know.
22:48
Speaker 4: But the only thing that like, and I I think
22:50
Speaker 4: it's because like all my Wolves friends are like tired
22:53
Speaker 4: of SGA because he's the pre throw birch. But I
22:56
Speaker 4: will say, like he does shove a lot now he
22:59
Speaker 4: does it good, he's quick with it, but the a
23:02
Speaker 4: lount of times that he will shove someone off and
23:04
Speaker 4: get space for a shot. You really should let that
23:08
Speaker 4: shit happen, Like that's against the rules. I know he
23:10
Speaker 4: kind of has mastered it, but still, how does he
23:13
Speaker 4: do that every game of the rest is kind of
23:15
Speaker 4: let it go, don't. I know, there's like the Star
23:17
Speaker 4: treatment for NBA players that it's part of the game,
23:19
Speaker 4: But like, dude, you're always shoved, shove, shove, and it's
23:22
Speaker 4: not a full extension but still a quick blow pop.
23:25
Speaker 3: Like, I'm really surprised that he gets with as much
23:28
Speaker 3: as he does.
23:29
Speaker 2: That's what's talking.
23:30
Speaker 1: About Game three though not game four. Game three, how were.
23:34
Speaker 2: You thinking after that? Did you have it in your
23:36
Speaker 2: mind that the Pacers they might wrap this up game
23:40
Speaker 2: six or something like that?
23:41
Speaker 4: Sorry, oh my bad, Yeah, it froze out. Yes, I
23:45
Speaker 4: thought very good about that. Yeah, that because that was
23:47
Speaker 4: great Pacers defense where they were physical, and that's we're
23:51
Speaker 4: called but sorry to loop this all together. Let's get
23:53
Speaker 4: that was a tremendous example of t defense where SGA
23:56
Speaker 4: was being played physical. There was not let's shove it.
23:59
Speaker 4: If there was this back and forth. Hey, cool, that's fine,
24:01
Speaker 4: let him play. Yeah, I don't think many people expected that.
24:05
Speaker 4: We both did say on the podcast last week, Hey,
24:07
Speaker 4: we both think it'll be two to two.
24:09
Speaker 1: Right.
24:10
Speaker 4: The Pacers played dominant whole perform us the way they
24:13
Speaker 4: did that was not expected whatsoever. So yes, that part
24:16
Speaker 4: had me very surprised with how strong of a game
24:19
Speaker 4: they played.
24:20
Speaker 3: Yes, for sure.
24:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, it had me really thinking, like man, just like
24:25
Speaker 1: that the Pacers, you know, and obviously I was thinking
24:28
Speaker 1: selfishly with that plus nine ten MVP that I had,
24:33
Speaker 1: you know before the series started. Yes, that was too much.
24:37
Speaker 2: He just moved into a bad spot.
24:39
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, okay, all right, got.
24:41
Speaker 2: You, Okay, you're good right here. Well we'll see. But yeah,
24:44
Speaker 2: to your point, in the fourth quarter, just in general,
24:49
Speaker 2: but the fourth quarter.
24:50
Speaker 1: Of Game four, I thought that, I mean, looking down
24:55
Speaker 1: the stretch of that game, like Indiana was in a
24:59
Speaker 1: good spot.
25:00
Speaker 2: You know, we talked about if it's close, we we
25:03
Speaker 2: you know, we generally believe that Indiana's gonna.
25:06
Speaker 1: Close it out, and it was close in Game three,
25:09
Speaker 1: they closed it out, and you're thinking all the while,
25:11
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's less than four minutes left, Haliburton
25:16
Speaker 1: got it going. He at the time, with like a
25:19
Speaker 1: three fifty two left, they had a three point lead,
25:22
Speaker 1: and uh he had eight points out of an eighteen
25:24
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter.
25:25
Speaker 2: You're like, okay, that's coming.
25:27
Speaker 1: But then that jumper, the little step back jumper, okay,
25:31
Speaker 1: see took the lead and in that quarter at some
25:36
Speaker 1: point it was twenty five to sixteen, and they went
25:39
Speaker 1: on a nine to zero run to get up one
25:42
Speaker 1: O eight one O three with twenty three seven or
25:45
Speaker 1: twenty three seconds left. Uh, just the way they you know,
25:49
Speaker 1: Mathroom got falled. It would have been a long shot,
25:53
Speaker 1: but Mathroom got falled and he missed both of the
25:55
Speaker 1: free throws. You know, I think SGA made five eight shots.
26:03
Speaker 1: So to your point, you know, the push out thing,
26:07
Speaker 1: it's like Jordan's one of the most iconic shot of
26:12
Speaker 1: Jordan is him pushing Russell off.
26:16
Speaker 2: Clear. Yeah, but people don't fucking have a problem with
26:20
Speaker 2: that at all because it's Mike, you know.
26:22
Speaker 1: But I mean it is clear as day because Russell
26:25
Speaker 1: had caught up to his move and so he had
26:27
Speaker 1: to create that thing. But what I look at the
26:30
Speaker 1: SGA thing is I think he's almost like a wide
26:33
Speaker 1: receiver where he lets them create contact and then at
26:37
Speaker 1: that split second he's like oh clear, oh you know,
26:40
Speaker 1: And that's why I think he keeps getting away with it.
26:44
Speaker 1: But then again to your point, okay, see is and
26:48
Speaker 1: we talked about this before, is their handsy as fuck?
26:51
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?
26:52
Speaker 1: So I think that they're handsy like that to the
26:55
Speaker 1: point where you can't call it all the time. Even
26:58
Speaker 1: if you're calling a tight game, you still can't call
27:00
Speaker 1: it all the time. So we're just gonna that that's
27:03
Speaker 1: the problem. It's like, if you're gonna let him do that,
27:06
Speaker 1: then you gotta let other stuff slide then too. That's
27:10
Speaker 1: kind of where it is. It's like, because some of
27:12
Speaker 1: those SGA is clearly pushing off a step it back
27:15
Speaker 1: and get in space. But some of it is the
27:18
Speaker 1: I guess you could say the defender like a cornerback,
27:23
Speaker 1: you know, put his hands on him a little bit,
27:25
Speaker 1: and then he just cleared space.
27:27
Speaker 3: You know.
27:27
Speaker 2: So I just wish it would be more consistent.
27:30
Speaker 1: That's and I understand basketball the angles, you can't see everything.
27:35
Speaker 1: I'm not you're not gonna call a perfect game, but
27:38
Speaker 1: I do wish that it would just like either you
27:40
Speaker 1: let him play for the most part, or you don't
27:43
Speaker 1: you know, don't do this in between, because then it
27:45
Speaker 1: looks like, well you just let him push, you know.
27:48
Speaker 2: But yet on the other side, you called that fall.
27:50
Speaker 1: So but he he's great at what he does. There
27:54
Speaker 1: are just players in the league, you know, every generation
27:57
Speaker 1: has multiple players that just find the way.
28:01
Speaker 2: You know, I don't mind, Like if someone's.
28:03
Speaker 3: In your space and you just clear you know, yeah,
28:07
Speaker 3: that's on you.
28:08
Speaker 2: You know, too bad. You got to have your mind ready,
28:10
Speaker 2: you know.
28:11
Speaker 1: Or if someone has a like if they want to
28:14
Speaker 1: get in the bonus, they'll just do that, and that's
28:17
Speaker 1: smart play. Chris Paul does that shit. Even D'Angel Russell
28:20
Speaker 1: will do that. So that type of stuff I think
28:23
Speaker 1: is strategic and all that. But yeah, the whole both ways,
28:27
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta call.
28:28
Speaker 2: It both ways. And uh, didn't people get mad?
28:31
Speaker 1: You know? And and and also he just he falls
28:34
Speaker 1: a lot on the ground and it's just like, dude,
28:37
Speaker 1: there's no way they hit you that hard. You're you're
28:39
Speaker 1: six six, dude, You're not weak, you know what I mean.
28:42
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know, some guys just mastered that,
28:46
Speaker 1: and then other guys they can't do it like aunt
28:48
Speaker 1: can't he can't.
28:51
Speaker 2: Draw that same contact. He just he's just not built
28:54
Speaker 2: like that. You know, I don't know what it is.
28:56
Speaker 1: Is not even flopping, but just in general he actually
28:59
Speaker 1: goes away from the guy to try to make the shot.
29:02
Speaker 1: But there are some times and actually Jefferson said it
29:06
Speaker 1: in that moment where SGS SGA got up and I
29:11
Speaker 1: think it was then hard. He could have just he
29:14
Speaker 1: could have went like that and you know, took the shot.
29:16
Speaker 1: It would have been three point play, yeah, three point play,
29:19
Speaker 1: but three you know, but he didn't do it.
29:21
Speaker 2: And it's like, no, that that's where you got, you know.
29:23
Speaker 1: So it's somewhere in between a really smart strategy heads
29:27
Speaker 1: he played.
29:28
Speaker 2: But also you know, call it both ways, like I
29:31
Speaker 2: just or don't call it, you know, whichever, you know.
29:34
Speaker 4: I yeah, I agree, And he has mastered the craft
29:37
Speaker 4: of get you look, which to his credit that that's
29:40
Speaker 4: a hard percent fair. It's just it's also yeah, yeah,
29:45
Speaker 4: it is, yeah.
29:47
Speaker 1: Because because there's that you know, the NBA logo, there's
29:51
Speaker 1: that did you ever show that or that ever test
29:53
Speaker 1: that NBA logo of SGA. It's like him sideways like flailing,
30:01
Speaker 1: but you know, he's just been steady pretty much every game,
30:05
Speaker 1: whether he gets to the free throw or not. But
30:08
Speaker 1: these last three, dude, like Jada has just really solidified himself.
30:15
Speaker 1: Will be forty points last night, I think it was
30:17
Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty seven or twenty five twenty six, forty, Like,
30:21
Speaker 1: you know, a lot in the other guys have been solid.
30:25
Speaker 1: They've gotten you know, whether it's Caruso or they they've gotten.
30:29
Speaker 1: I went over how many three point shot? You know,
30:31
Speaker 1: so this dude hit three, the other dude at four.
30:33
Speaker 1: Like they've just gotten what they need off the bench,
30:37
Speaker 1: playing a really good bench team, right even when they
30:40
Speaker 1: they lost the bench.
30:41
Speaker 2: But you wouldn't even know it really, you know, but
30:45
Speaker 2: they just I.
30:46
Speaker 1: Don't know, man, they just they just those two guys
30:50
Speaker 1: have solidified themself.
30:54
Speaker 2: And that was the thing going in this year.
30:57
Speaker 1: You know, the supporting cast, you know, the big three
31:01
Speaker 1: in the supporting cast. Will the number two and number
31:04
Speaker 1: three show up like they needed to last year?
31:07
Speaker 2: They didn't?
31:07
Speaker 1: This year they have. And yeah it's scary, man, because
31:11
Speaker 1: they're they're young, and they're just gonna get better, like.
31:16
Speaker 2: You know, so we'll see how that goes.
31:19
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know, man, they're they're damn
31:21
Speaker 1: good dude.
31:24
Speaker 4: It's say with their coach too, Like their coach is
31:26
Speaker 4: probably taking a couple l's this year that he should
31:28
Speaker 4: have and I'm sure they're gonna around, especially against weds
31:30
Speaker 4: Woods Rig But he's only a girls coach too, Like
31:33
Speaker 4: I think for years they got lucky like Kerr. Kerr
31:37
Speaker 4: was kind of like lucky to endorse TV Dick because
31:39
Speaker 4: he did have a lot of experiences. He probably you know,
31:41
Speaker 4: he's made his calls. But like coaches like Pop eight,
31:44
Speaker 4: like Carlisle, he he's probably the reason why the Pacers
31:48
Speaker 4: are where they're at, Like he's a great fucking coach,
31:50
Speaker 4: like you know, so how that Daniel's only got a
31:53
Speaker 4: lord more because he had the the slip up game
31:56
Speaker 4: what against Denverard, which people give him some crap for
31:59
Speaker 4: now he's had big here, but you gotta figure it
32:02
Speaker 4: next year as well, because you know, everyone like speaking
32:04
Speaker 4: the Timberwolves, which you and my friends love, like people
32:07
Speaker 4: love Fitch as a coach, like and he's not gonna
32:09
Speaker 4: get better. You Also, it's really fair to mention Dad
32:11
Speaker 4: at all, like he's a pretty like you know, young coach,
32:13
Speaker 4: but he'll get better too, and coach he does matter.
32:16
Speaker 4: I know it's not like somebody we talked about a lot,
32:18
Speaker 4: but like sp I love that guy. Spots has made
32:21
Speaker 4: a lot of teams like you also, that's the other
32:23
Speaker 4: part of the team where they're growing as a team
32:26
Speaker 4: and they have a young coach growing with him too,
32:27
Speaker 4: which is only Goetta unfortunately make the better for the
32:29
Speaker 4: rest of the league.
32:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then like we've said this whole process and
32:33
Speaker 1: we end up saying it a lot anyway, Uh, with
32:37
Speaker 1: the NBA show, it's just like every every team has
32:40
Speaker 1: a different stage that it has to go through.
32:44
Speaker 2: Yeah.
32:44
Speaker 1: Times it only takes two years, and it kind of
32:46
Speaker 1: like three years really because lot you know, two years
32:49
Speaker 1: ago they were in the plan and actually the the
32:55
Speaker 1: the they played, uh they played Minnesota, that's your Denver
32:59
Speaker 1: one because we played him in the first round. And
33:03
Speaker 1: and then last year they're in the number one seed,
33:06
Speaker 1: they end up getting beat and then now they come
33:08
Speaker 1: back and yeah, they are growing, dude, they have a lot.
33:13
Speaker 1: It's funny because even like you said, like so, they
33:16
Speaker 1: they've had multiple times where they lose Game one, they
33:20
Speaker 1: get their ass kicked and it's a two to one
33:22
Speaker 1: series and it's a tight game.
33:23
Speaker 2: They end up closing that out at on the road
33:26
Speaker 2: at Minnesota.
33:27
Speaker 1: You know, so they've really and in this series, they're
33:30
Speaker 1: down two to one, they lose their you know, they
33:32
Speaker 1: lose the first fucking game, you know, and you're like, oh, dude,
33:36
Speaker 1: this fuck, fuck this Haliburton guy. Who the hell is
33:39
Speaker 1: this guy? You know, like, but yet they didn't blink.
33:42
Speaker 1: They came right back, and now they've served in the
33:45
Speaker 1: end of their first two losses since.
33:47
Speaker 2: March in a row.
33:48
Speaker 3: You know.
33:51
Speaker 1: So yeah, and to your point, Finch even admitted, you know,
33:54
Speaker 1: because he has this free flowing very uh, it gives
33:59
Speaker 1: the play.
34:00
Speaker 2: A whole lot. They don't really have much of a leash.
34:03
Speaker 1: And he even said, I got to tighten that shit
34:05
Speaker 1: up at times in the game, and we have to
34:07
Speaker 1: go to play calling, we have to be more focused,
34:09
Speaker 1: and we have to really.
34:12
Speaker 2: Kind of not spoon feed it.
34:14
Speaker 1: But just obviously we're failing in some of those scenarios.
34:18
Speaker 1: So instead of doing the free flow, I gotta make
34:21
Speaker 1: some tweaks and so hopefully that happens. Just from a
34:25
Speaker 1: Timberl's perspective, but yeah, you're right, it's a you know,
34:30
Speaker 1: heading into Thursday's game. We're both on the same page
34:34
Speaker 1: where if Halliburton was healthy or if randomly he's just
34:40
Speaker 1: they the MRI comes back negative and they've shoot some
34:44
Speaker 1: quarter zone and he feels okay. You know, who knows
34:47
Speaker 1: that could happen.
34:48
Speaker 3: You never know.
34:49
Speaker 2: But knowing what we know now and knowing how.
34:52
Speaker 1: Seeing him on that court, it's just tough. It's difficult
34:58
Speaker 1: to pick the Pacers. They'd have to go nuts. Now
35:00
Speaker 1: they have a deep team to do it, but they
35:03
Speaker 1: would have to hit like twenty threes.
35:05
Speaker 4: Dude, you know, yeah, but I'd be saying thing, let's
35:08
Speaker 4: say SGA has food poison, he's out for tomorrow, Okay,
35:11
Speaker 4: Like okay, well I'd be picking the Pacers of a
35:14
Speaker 4: heartbeat of SGA was out. So it's just when your catalysts,
35:18
Speaker 4: like your quarterback on your football team is out, your backup.
35:20
Speaker 4: And we went through some Minneapolis Viking er minsloona Viiking back,
35:25
Speaker 4: the quarterback playoff games or the count you know, like
35:27
Speaker 4: when you with the Peters out. There's so many intangibles
35:30
Speaker 4: like if was out, I still might bet idiot or
35:34
Speaker 4: Miles Turner shirt. But Halliburton, who handles the ball pretty
35:38
Speaker 4: well as you can versus that great half court defense. Yeah,
35:42
Speaker 4: him out, or if he pulls Aaron Gordon and plays
35:45
Speaker 4: at sixty percent, you know versus Okay, see, like Eric
35:49
Speaker 4: Gordon tried that, it didn't go so well for him either.
35:51
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know, because if Halbertson does play
35:54
Speaker 4: baked up, it's gonna be picking.
35:56
Speaker 3: Roll all day.
35:56
Speaker 4: They're gonna expose it defensively to the point where he's
35:58
Speaker 4: he have to come off the court at that point,
36:01
Speaker 4: are you benfigure team?
36:02
Speaker 3: Not really?
36:02
Speaker 4: I know you want to be out there for your boys,
36:03
Speaker 4: but if you're giving up defensive lapses consistently, Carlisle's not suit.
36:09
Speaker 3: But he's gonna have to pull them out.
36:11
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's the thing.
36:12
Speaker 1: And the fact that they pulled him out before the
36:15
Speaker 1: second quarter ended and then they brought him back like
36:17
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, but he was like, what the.
36:19
Speaker 2: Hell would he be doing out right now? Anyway? Like,
36:22
Speaker 2: we need to keep this game as close as you can,
36:24
Speaker 2: you know. So that was kind of a tell right there.
36:27
Speaker 1: So so in the end, you think it's probably gonna
36:31
Speaker 1: be a done deal. Four to two, pretty damn good
36:34
Speaker 1: series either way, though.
36:35
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's been a great series, but we
36:37
Speaker 4: both expected hopefully they're at raise whatever we're fans that'd
36:41
Speaker 4: be's goed away. He's been a very fun watch, good
36:45
Speaker 4: for small market stories. We could have repeat next year.
36:47
Speaker 4: These teams are both pretty well built out. All the
36:50
Speaker 4: Pacers cree agency as much as the Okay see, but
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Speaker 4: they're still pretty good.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're both gonna have a lot of their team back,
36:58
Speaker 2: that's for sure.
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Speaker 4: They really the Pacers. Lily' a true high, high level superstar.
37:02
Speaker 4: It's gonna be like I want fifty MILLI you know,
37:04
Speaker 4: maybe Halburton's gonna a little bit, say with Seaka, but
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Speaker 4: these are two teams we're gonna be around again. So yeah,
37:10
Speaker 4: I do think it is sad that Halbert's hurt. But again,
37:13
Speaker 4: since we've started this podcast, almost every single year the
37:17
Speaker 4: championship has been decided. Like if we're doing a pie chart,
37:20
Speaker 4: about thirty three percent of the pie charts like due
37:22
Speaker 4: to injuries of a key player, whether benefit or You're
37:33
Speaker 4: all right, you're frozen. I can't hear you right now,
37:35
Speaker 4: but don't hang injuries. It's part of basketball. But I
37:37
Speaker 4: don't feel you that we're gonna win the Pacers. I
37:40
Speaker 4: think they would have won if Halburton was healthy. But yeah,
37:44
Speaker 4: I'm saying, okay, see, maybe they get a little bit
37:47
Speaker 4: of a punch from Pacers. They're not gonna quit, but
37:49
Speaker 4: I think okay, see Woods by double digits in game six.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and when they're in these advances, you know, when
37:55
Speaker 1: they have, when they're in this predicament, this opportunity to
37:59
Speaker 1: do it, they usually jump on it. And it would
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Speaker 1: be crazy to beat them three straight times. I wouldn't
38:04
Speaker 1: have thought either of these teams could beat each other
38:07
Speaker 1: three times. But you know, yeah, if you see Haliburton
38:12
Speaker 1: kind of just camping around, that's not gonna be good.
38:14
Speaker 1: So if it does go to game seven, we'll probably
38:19
Speaker 1: do a Monday show because obviously, yeah, Thursday and then
38:24
Speaker 1: Sunday would be the game. So what we'll come back Monday.
38:28
Speaker 1: If not, we'll just kind of play it by ear
38:33
Speaker 1: with the free agency stuff, and it might be a
38:35
Speaker 1: Draft night trade because the way it's gonna work, it's
38:39
Speaker 1: like Brooklyn has money. Other teams can maneuver. But for
38:43
Speaker 1: the most part, if you're talking about someone making forty
38:46
Speaker 1: five fifty to fifty five sixty, if you're talking about
38:48
Speaker 1: a big contract, shit, even if you're talking about a
38:52
Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty million player, maybe like a Randall
38:57
Speaker 1: or nas Reed, you know, in that realm, like you're
39:01
Speaker 1: gonna have to trade them more likely if they want
39:03
Speaker 1: to sign someplace because people just don't have the money
39:06
Speaker 1: this year. So it does sound like whether it's we
39:12
Speaker 1: know Durant's getting traded, it's just a matter who. But
39:15
Speaker 1: Yannis is still potentially out there to get traded maybe too.
39:19
Speaker 1: So we're gonna kind of play it by year.
39:22
Speaker 2: It won't be the normal.
39:24
Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna wine and dine five different teams
39:27
Speaker 1: and all that because people just don't have the money.
39:29
Speaker 1: So it's it's you know, it's gonna be signing trade.
39:32
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't doubt if the Timberwolves is involved somewhere.
39:36
Speaker 1: Maybe not the KD maybe well, I don't think gyannest.
39:38
Speaker 1: I think the thing about the Timberwlves is they just
39:41
Speaker 1: don't have enough draft picks to throw in. We probably
39:47
Speaker 1: have the most ready to win right now players we
39:52
Speaker 1: can give to you you know, yeah, but are they
39:54
Speaker 1: looking for a combination of picks ready and young? You know,
39:59
Speaker 1: that's that's probab where we lose out but it does
40:03
Speaker 1: sound like, you know, the sign and trade is gonna
40:06
Speaker 1: be a big thing. So it might be mid July.
40:08
Speaker 1: It could be you know, Duran could get moved Draft night.
40:13
Speaker 1: You know who knows the way they talk about it,
40:15
Speaker 1: it keeps changing. So we'll just kind of play it
40:17
Speaker 1: by ear as far as that goes. But like I said,
40:20
Speaker 1: if it goes game seven, well we'll have a show Monday. Otherwise,
40:25
Speaker 1: you know, kind of stick around with us. We'll do uh,
40:29
Speaker 1: you know, give our thoughts and break down some of
40:31
Speaker 1: the big trades or moves when it comes to free agency.
40:35
Speaker 2: And all that stuff.
40:37
Speaker 4: Man, August thirtieth, there's like that's week zero slash week one.
40:41
Speaker 4: There's like five great cult football games. So we'll be
40:44
Speaker 4: back to before. You don't because college football this this
40:47
Speaker 4: week one is gonna be off the rails, so and
40:51
Speaker 4: I know it. Enjoy the weather, get outside, play some golf.
40:53
Speaker 4: The boys are out.
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Speaker 3: Have good eight. Peace,