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Harry & Meghan “Surprised” By King Charles’ Public Letter Reminding World… They’re Not Like Us! · I Do, Part 2

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  Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Tuesday, September 8th. And just
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  Speaker 1: in case it wasn't clear, Harry and Meghan... aren't with us.
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  Speaker 1: And with that, welcome to this episode of A.B. and T.J.
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  Speaker 1: That was a statement put out by King Charles. We've
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  Speaker 1: all been in that position with family or friends. You're
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  Speaker 1: out somewhere and they do something a little embarrassing.
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  Speaker 2: I don't claim them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not with them.
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  Speaker 2: You know what?
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  Speaker 3: I feel like he could have put, like, if this
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  Speaker 3: was a social media statement, we could have just had
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  Speaker 3: Kendrick Lamar's, they're not like us.
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  Speaker 2: They're not like us.
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  Speaker 1: And they're not.
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  Speaker 2: And they're not. And, yeah, because they said they weren't
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  Speaker 2: like us.
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  Speaker 1: Look, yo, Prince, I mean, Harry and Meghan, Robes, they
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  Speaker 1: are just... They can't.
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  Speaker 2: They can't get anything right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, can't get it right, but they can't get a break.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like sometimes with some of these headlines, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people hear that and go, give me a
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  Speaker 1: freaking break.
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  Speaker 2: They did this to themselves. Everything they did, they asked for.
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  Speaker 1: But this is tough. Daddy-O has spoken in a very
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  Speaker 1: emphatic way to make clear to everybody. I know they're
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  Speaker 1: back in the UK, but the only thing that's changed
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  Speaker 1: is their address.
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  Speaker 2: Do we need a clarification from King Charles?
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  Speaker 1: I think maybe.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm just curious what the ripple effects are for
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  Speaker 3: that personally to have. put out this statement, this letter,
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  Speaker 3: just reminding everybody what they already knew, that nothing had changed,
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  Speaker 3: that they still were non-working royals. And oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: don't say his or her majesty because they don't get
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  Speaker 3: to be regarded like that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, look. You know, Rose, this story, because it was
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  Speaker 1: a surprise. Well, I don't know, a month ago maybe
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  Speaker 1: when the news came out that they were going to
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  Speaker 1: be moving back to the UK. People went, crazy. This
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  Speaker 1: was huge. They've been in Southern California for six years,
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  Speaker 1: building their California dreams, right? Wonderful home. She's got shows.
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  Speaker 1: She's the new biracial Martha Stewart. Everything is going great
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  Speaker 1: for them. Surprised they're going back to the UK. We
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  Speaker 1: were trying to figure out, everybody, why? And then we
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  Speaker 1: heard about her acting gig. Maybe that's why. Or maybe
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  Speaker 1: Harry is reconciling with the family. Rogues, everybody was trying
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  Speaker 1: to figure out, but the hope has been reconciliation.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, but I'm laughing at your glass half full synopsis
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  Speaker 3: of what has taken place over the last six years
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  Speaker 3: because a lot of folks will say it's quite the opposite.
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  Speaker 3: that all of her deals that she hoped would bring
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  Speaker 3: her a lot of income, including even Prince Harry's decision
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  Speaker 3: to write that book, Spare. Of course, all of that
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  Speaker 3: netted an initial pretty hefty, large financial gain. But when
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  Speaker 3: you've got a, what is it, a 14-bedroom, 20-bathroom Montecito
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  Speaker 3: estate and a vacation home in Portugal, you've got big
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  Speaker 3: bills to pay. So, yes, a lot of people pointed
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  Speaker 3: out that while they got initial lucrative deals, they weren't long-term,
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  Speaker 3: they weren't lasting. Right.
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  Speaker 2: The checks stopped coming in. Netflix said, actually, we're good.
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  Speaker 1: You think this is a financial move. And so Harry.
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  Speaker 3: Also felt very disconnected from his life, his family, his culture.
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  Speaker 2: His kids didn't get to know.
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  Speaker 3: So he was pacing the halls of their Montecito mansion,
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  Speaker 3: feeling very frustrated and alone and isolated.
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  Speaker 2: So they.
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  Speaker 3: They actually pulled up the family and dogs and all.
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  Speaker 3: I guess they left their chickens back in Montecito. But
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  Speaker 3: they are looking for a new start and a fresh start.
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  Speaker 3: And so it wasn't that they were just building on
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  Speaker 3: all of this wonderful six years of marital and familial bliss.
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  Speaker 3: This is them trying to do some repair work to
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  Speaker 3: some major damage that they frankly caused.
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  Speaker 1: And I would like to think that the repair work
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  Speaker 1: had to do with the family, that they wanted to
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  Speaker 1: repair the royal family.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I would like to think that too.
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  Speaker 1: I gave a rosier synopsis of their time.
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  Speaker 3: I just wanted to, I just wanted to make that clear. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate that because usually, usually I'm the one that's
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  Speaker 3: toxically positive.
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  Speaker 2: But that was, that was fun that we switched roles
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  Speaker 2: there for a second.
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  Speaker 1: I look, you know, I like her show. That's probably
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  Speaker 1: why I said, what was the name of it? With Love.
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  Speaker 3: Megan?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Two seasons of it. And that's all you're getting.
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  Speaker 1: I like the show.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen at least, I think, each episode three times now.
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  Speaker 1: Because I leave it running in the morning on this
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  Speaker 1: TV in here. But then we happened onto Martha Stewart's
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  Speaker 1: cooking show the other day and we got, oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, oh, this is how it's done.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Martha is just the best, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, back to Harry and Meghan. So, Robes, with
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  Speaker 1: all that, they go back and yes, there is hope. Now,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Robes, can you imagine? the number of questions
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  Speaker 1: and inquiries, press inquiries, letters that are flying from government officials,
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  Speaker 1: from press, everybody asking, what's going to happen? Are they
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  Speaker 1: back in? Are they back in the fold? What are
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  Speaker 1: we going to do? What does this mean? We haven't
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  Speaker 1: gotten a lot of answers from that. And I didn't realize, well,
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  Speaker 1: this is the first time we've officially heard the king
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  Speaker 1: then put out an official statement regarding Harry and Meghan
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  Speaker 1: being back. And yet, to a certain degree, you can
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  Speaker 1: understand they need to clear things.
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  Speaker 3: I i get that and it is a big deal
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  Speaker 3: anytime the king buckingham palace they don't release statements just
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  Speaker 3: haphazardly all of this is carefully curated and planned and
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  Speaker 3: executed and so a lot of thought i'm sure went
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  Speaker 3: into if they should release a statement how they should
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  Speaker 3: release a statement and then yes what the statement should
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  Speaker 3: actually say So we.
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  Speaker 2: Do have the official letter from King Charles.
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  Speaker 1: And again, this went to, this wasn't just a letter,
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  Speaker 1: and it sounds like Harry and Meghan might have gotten
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  Speaker 1: it last, but this went out to all government officials.
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  Speaker 1: This went out to police and law enforcement to get
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  Speaker 1: everybody an understanding of how to treat these two as
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  Speaker 1: they go back into maybe public life to some degree
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  Speaker 1: in the UK. And I hope they're going to be
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  Speaker 1: doing a lot of press events or charity events. They'll
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  Speaker 1: be making appearances. And this makes clear, they are not
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  Speaker 1: showing up anywhere on behalf of the royal family.
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  Speaker 2: All right, here is the official letter.
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  Speaker 3: Following the decision by the Duke and Duchess of Sussex
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  Speaker 3: to relocate to the UK, we have received a number
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  Speaker 3: of requests for guidance. To help avoid doubt or confusion,
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  Speaker 3: the king has directed that the following information be shared.
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  Speaker 1: I like that line.
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  Speaker 2: The king has directed... Well, to avoid.
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  Speaker 1: Doubt and confusion. That was plain spoken. Okay, let me
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  Speaker 1: clear this up. This is as colloquial as you will
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  Speaker 1: hear Buckingham Palace speak.
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  Speaker 3: All right, the letter goes on to say this. It
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  Speaker 3: is well known that in January 2020, the Duke and
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  Speaker 3: Duchess stepped down from undertaking representative duties on behalf of
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  Speaker 3: the Sovereign.
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  Speaker 1: I like that line, too. Just a reminder, they did this.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we didn't push them out. We didn't tell them
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  Speaker 2: to leave.
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  Speaker 1: I love this.
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  Speaker 2: This was of their doing.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 3: They stepped down from undertaking representative duties on behalf of
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  Speaker 3: the Sovereign and are no longer... working members of the
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  Speaker 3: royal family. This position, distinct from the state and royal
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  Speaker 3: duties undertaken by the working royal family, and with the
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  Speaker 3: personal latitude it brings the couple in respect of financial
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  Speaker 3: independence and protection of their privacy as they would wish,
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  Speaker 3: will continue to be fully respected. So look, and I
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  Speaker 3: do think that's an important part here. Look, if you
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  Speaker 3: look at William and Kate's kids, They are working members
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  Speaker 3: in a way of the royal family. Their faces, their images,
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  Speaker 3: their likeness, all of that is a part of them
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  Speaker 3: showing up, being transparent. This is our family. We are
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  Speaker 3: the royal family. Meghan and Harry, we have never seen
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  Speaker 3: their kids' faces.
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  Speaker 2: Never once.
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  Speaker 3: And that's how they want it. And because they want
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  Speaker 3: that level of privacy, they couldn't possibly be a part
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  Speaker 3: of the working family because that is a part of it.
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  Speaker 3: You don't get to keep your identity hidden. You don't
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  Speaker 3: get certain privacy that clearly Meghan and Harry value over privacy.
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  Speaker 3: being members of the royal family.
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  Speaker 1: What's William's son, the oldest one, who's next in line,
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  Speaker 1: what's his name?
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  Speaker 3: George.
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  Speaker 1: George, right? You can't hide George's face. He's going to
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  Speaker 1: eventually be the king of England.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and anyone who potentially is in line, you would
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  Speaker 3: think that you are a public servant.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, man.
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  Speaker 2: You are a public figure.
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  Speaker 1: They take it seriously over there. They do. This is service.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: So yes, George and Charlotte and Louis, we know and
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  Speaker 3: love their faces and they don't get to be private citizens.
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  Speaker 1: It stings to people to a certain degree. That is
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  Speaker 1: as privileged as you can get. Like you have this
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  Speaker 1: opportunity and you're rejecting it and throwing it back and
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  Speaker 1: also trashing it on the way out.
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  Speaker 2: And then you want it both ways.
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  Speaker 3: And then you want the protection and you want the,
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  Speaker 3: the taxpayer dollars to protect you that you can't have
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  Speaker 3: it both ways.
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  Speaker 2: That does make a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why you can understand why people would be
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  Speaker 1: turned off by that. And especially the British folks seeing this, babe, they,
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  Speaker 1: this is not just some figurehead. This is not just
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  Speaker 1: some dismissive thing that just Royals are no big deal. Rose, they,
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  Speaker 1: are regarded a certain way there.
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  Speaker 2: This is Lady Di. This is Princess Di's son, who
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  Speaker 2: we watched grow up.
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  Speaker 1: And now this American woman has come in here and
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  Speaker 1: had him turn his back on his family.
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  Speaker 3: And he's trashed his family publicly for profit. And I
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  Speaker 3: think that makes it even worse.
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  Speaker 1: Making clear, these aren't our impressions, but this is, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: the rub. This is what's out there, and this is why.
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  Speaker 1: I hope some of these moves that they've made, but
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  Speaker 1: I like the line there. They said, yeah, what they wanted,
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  Speaker 1: sure thing. We're going to keep respecting it. They're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: knock yourselves out. That was the next line.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Knock yourselves out. We'll fully respect that you want your privacy.
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  Speaker 3: But in exchange for your privacy, it continues. It follows
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  Speaker 3: that there is no change to the current status of
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  Speaker 3: the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.
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  Speaker 2: Their styles as his and.
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  Speaker 3: Her Royal Highness remain in abeyance and are not used.
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  Speaker 3: The charitable work of the Duke and Duchess is a
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  Speaker 3: personal matter for them both.
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  Speaker 2: And under in their private capacity.
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  Speaker 3: In short, their position is akin to private citizens with
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  Speaker 3: commercial and charitable interests.
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  Speaker 1: Another good line, but they had to. Their styles as
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  Speaker 1: His and Her Royal Highness. Like, we have to remind y'all,
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  Speaker 1: don't call them that.
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  Speaker 3: Do not call them that, because they are not. Any
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  Speaker 3: specific questions from official and state organizations about the courtesies,
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  Speaker 3: which should be extended to the Duke and Duchess, and
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  Speaker 3: particularly where recourse to public funds may be required, should
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  Speaker 3: be directed to Buckingham Palace. Any operational security issues should
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  Speaker 3: continue to be directed to the relevant police authorities. So basically,
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  Speaker 3: we want to say, like, do not extend anything to
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  Speaker 3: them that would cost taxpayers any money without first clearing
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  Speaker 3: it with us. Gross.
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  Speaker 1: This is a claim. They, this is very clearly written.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Uh, it goes on final, final, uh, sentence, all
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  Speaker 3: correspondence and administrative questions relating to the couple should be
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  Speaker 3: sent directly to their office, which will continue to operate
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  Speaker 3: separately from the Royal household.
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  Speaker 1: That should be it, right? He made that as clear
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  Speaker 1: as he can. Um, Robes, you know they've been getting
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  Speaker 1: a lot of questions. Look, I had questions. They're going back.
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  Speaker 1: To do what? What do they want to do? I
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  Speaker 1: thought that Robes, they were going back because, yes, she
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  Speaker 1: has an acting gig. That's huge. He has met with
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  Speaker 1: his dad in the past year or so. The grandkids
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  Speaker 1: met with granddaddy.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Not too terribly long ago.
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  Speaker 2: This summer, yes.
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  Speaker 1: So all of that made it sound as if reconciliation
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  Speaker 1: was going to be possible. Not just possible, but even
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  Speaker 1: a priority of them moving back. this seems official. This
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  Speaker 1: doesn't seem like a dad. This seems like the king
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  Speaker 1: of England needed to do what he needed to do.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and look, it'll be interesting to see if they're
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  Speaker 3: able to move the needle at all in terms of
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  Speaker 3: public opinion or if they even care to.
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  Speaker 2: I would think Prince Harry would.
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  Speaker 3: That would be a part of this, but maybe they're
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  Speaker 3: over it. But the fact that they've moved back As
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  Speaker 3: private citizens, there are still going to be a lot
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  Speaker 3: of questions.
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  Speaker 2: How are they treated? How are they regarded? All of
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  Speaker 2: the above.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm, like I said, worried about her. I'm worried
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  Speaker 1: about her health. I'm worried about her mental health. I'm
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  Speaker 1: worried about... That's just... That onslaught that we have... We
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  Speaker 1: got about 1% of what she gets. So little. And
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  Speaker 1: it's ongoing.
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  Speaker 2: It's unbearable. The 1% was unbearable. Can't imagine... another 99%
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  Speaker 2: coming your way.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I was happy she'd get in the
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  Speaker 1: acting gig. I was hoping that was going to be
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  Speaker 1: the case. What was the latest on that? That it
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  Speaker 1: had been pulled and nothing is official.
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  Speaker 3: The latest is that it's still on the table. The
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  Speaker 3: latest is that she still may end up being in
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  Speaker 3: season three. They are, they just got greenlit. So the
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: production is just beginning in terms of.
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  Speaker 1: Getting all of that together.
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  Speaker 2: The gentleman, yes.
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  Speaker 3: And Guy Ritchie is known for kind of liking this
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: type of attention. So he might really lean into it.
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  Speaker 3: It makes a lot of sense because if they're talking
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  Speaker 3: about you, they're talking about you.
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  Speaker 2: They notice you. They'll check it out. That all probably
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  Speaker 2: is good for ratings.
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  Speaker 1: I had no idea about this show.
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  Speaker 2: Neither did I.
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  Speaker 1: But it's the sexy kind of thing that I would
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  Speaker 1: absolutely like. Some spy stuff and some clandestine stuff. And
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  Speaker 1: love Theo James. He had the hilarious response. They're getting
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  Speaker 1: asked about it constantly. You know they're annoyed. They had
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: to do a whole podcast Press junkie. They had to
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: do a whole publicity tour for this show that just
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  Speaker 1: came out, what, September 3rd or something?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it just came out this past week for season two.
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  Speaker 1: They've been asked nonstop about it, but he was asked
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  Speaker 1: about it. This was the funny response. Actually, it's Sarah Ferguson.
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  Speaker 1: That's funny. And move on. Thank you, Theo, for that.
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  Speaker 1: But we have, just this morning, we got this letter
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  Speaker 1: from the king. It was put out yesterday on Monday,
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  Speaker 1: but we are hearing now reports from the BBC of
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  Speaker 1: a reaction by Prince Harry to finding out about this letter.
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  Speaker 1: We will explain that. Also, we'll also remind you about
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  Speaker 1: Queen Elizabeth and what she said about them wanting to be.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we might have been a little taken aback by
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  Speaker 3: King Charles' public letter to the government, to, frankly, everyone,
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  Speaker 3: reminding folks that Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan were Are
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  Speaker 3: not working members of the royal family. Therefore, they should
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  Speaker 3: not be called his or her royal highness.
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  Speaker 1: Help me again, baby. She still can be called princess.
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  Speaker 2: Princess and duchess. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: But princess Meghan. We call her princess Meghan.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. She earned it through marriage. And obviously he earned
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  Speaker 3: it through birthright. And then their children are all prince.
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  Speaker 3: It's a prince Archie and princess Lilibet.
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  Speaker 1: Seven and five or five and three?
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  Speaker 3: Seven and five, I believe. And look, we just are
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  Speaker 3: getting word. NBC and BBC both have this, and they
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  Speaker 3: say that a spokesperson for the couple told them that
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  Speaker 3: they were, quote, surprised by the letter sent on behalf
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  Speaker 3: of King Charles.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, boy.
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  Speaker 3: That is not good if they have actually agreed... to
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  Speaker 3: allow their spokesperson to give their reaction to King Charles' letter.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's surprising to me. Just say nothing. Why
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  Speaker 3: do you need to put out there that you're surprised,
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  Speaker 3: meaning you're offended? I mean, isn't that what those two
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  Speaker 3: things both mean?
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  Speaker 1: Why do you allow, like, oh, these are such high stakes,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, but there's so much emotion, so much, how
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  Speaker 1: many hurt feelings in this? It's just, in that moment, right,
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  Speaker 1: you put out a statement saying, We understand why.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: We continue to appreciate the support.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: We look glad that the kids are here. There was
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: Instead, this is what we have.
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  Speaker 3: A spokesperson for Harry and Meghan told NBC News they
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: were surprised by the letter and were not given an
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: opportunity to contribute to its contents.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Because he's a king. He doesn't need to consult.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: That also makes them sound arrogant and entitled, which is
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: exactly their problem with the public.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't see the rest of that. I just
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: saw the surprise.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Yes, the contents of the letter were shared with the
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: couple's staff a few hours before it was released, according
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: to a spokesperson for the Sussexes. A Buckingham Palace source
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: also confirmed that the letter had been shared with Harry's
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: team on Monday before it was released.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: But you're right.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: There was such an opportunity for them to say we respect,
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: we appreciate the clarification. It's important for government officials and
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: folks to understand how to regard us. And we always
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: appreciate just being, we were given advance notice of this
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: and we appreciate the contents. Clarification is always good. Like
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: they could just have been, yes, appreciative, grateful.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: And not reactive. And now they're stirring the pot.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: And don't Harry and Meghan need more PR help Yes.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: You're the king. I'm saying you're not going to win
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: a public spat with the king. I say everybody hates you,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: and that's not literal, but it's close. We've talked about
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: this plenty of times. She is only ranked above Andrew.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: The man formerly known as Prince Andrew.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: In popularity. Only above him. Of all the working world,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: that's 10, 15, whatever they are, even the The girl,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Andrew's daughters.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Eugenie and Beatrice.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Ranked higher than Meghan. Everybody. Robes, the list of popularity
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: in royals in the polling. William, Kate, Meghan, Andrew at
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: the bottom. That's who she's at the bottom with. You
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: put out a better statement. What can she do, babe,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: to make people like her?
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: They need better people around them. Well, they need better
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: people around them, and they need to be grateful, and
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: they need to understand that there is a different perspective
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: than the one that they currently carry.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: And I know that's a really hard thing to do.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Whoa, Rose, you need to be in the room. That
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: statement lands it. There is a different perspective you should
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: consider than the ones you all have about what's happening
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: in your world. Rose? I just, what can't you, because
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I'd like these two people. And I want them to
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: be okay. I want the whole family to be together again.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: And I'm from Arkansas, and I care about this family.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: It's funny.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: We had a conversation about this on YouTube, and people
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: had commented, how could you possibly be rooting for this couple?
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: And I actually– there are a lot of reasons why
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: we root for people because I do believe that people
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: can evolve. They can– suddenly find self-awareness. And there can
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: be a learning curve that we should all extend to
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: other people as well as to ourselves. We can do better.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: We can change.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: We can grow.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: And oftentimes it's through those painful experiences. And yes, sometimes
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: even public shaming where you can evolve and emerge a better,
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: more well-rounded, open-minded, open-hearted person. And yes, I root for that.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: And I root for them.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I just don't think any of these people are bad
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: people or evil people. I don't either. I just don't
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: know what she could possibly, I keep saying her, what
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: can they possibly do? Everything feels like a big attempt
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: to do something versus just live your life.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Stop living like a victim, I guess, would be the
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: best way.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Is that what they say she's doing? We got to
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: watch that documentary.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: They got to let it go.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know that's easy to say and hard
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: to do, but they have to move on from victim status.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: That is the only way.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: And what happened to them may have all happened to
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: them exactly as they said it.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: And I understand.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Feeling angry and feeling like you've been attacked unfairly and
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: you've been accused of things that you didn't do. All
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: of that can really build up this feeling of victimhood.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: But that only hurts you. And you're holding on to
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: that because it's made you feel safe.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: That's your identity. They got to figure out a way
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: to let it go.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: You just said something, Robeson. Yeah, you're very good at this.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: It takes a little while, but you eventually get me
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: around to where I need to be. Just like you
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: gave the good PR line. I was like, oh yeah,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: that's what they need to hear. You just brought me
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: around I don't know if this can ever be fixed.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Because you know what you said, baby? You said they
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: feel like they were really wronged and they might feel
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: like they are victims and everything might have happened just
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: like that. Robes, I will never, ever be okay with
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: the people who lied to a tabloid to take us down.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: There is no way I will ever be okay with
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: those individuals in a room, in a conversation, and certainly
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: to make up publicly So if they feel any kind
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: of way that I feel about the individuals that did
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: this for us, there's a whole, I have a different
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: perspective now.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they wrote a book about it.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: This might not ever come back. When you put it
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: in those terms, if you see it like that, if
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: they feel about that family the way I feel and
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: know about the folks that did what they did to
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: us intentionally.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: And by the way, what you just described is exactly
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: how King Charles, William, and Kate may feel about Harry
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: and Meghan because they put it in print.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to hop on Calshi now and change
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: my bet for reconciliation. Nope, ain't happening. You just hit
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: me with that. Nope, I can see this never happening.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I know. It's so personal.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. And words cannot be unsaid. And printed words cannot
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: be erased.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: But sometimes harm can't be undone, baby. There was irreparable harm.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Possibly they think was done to the royal family. Possibly
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: to Meghan and Harry.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Everybody's hurt.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: To Amy and TJ.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: When you put it through that personal lens, it all
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: makes so much sense. It's so easy to judge or
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: to have an opinion when you haven't been through something.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: But if you've even been through a kind of, sort
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: of similar, and a lot of people have.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: In families, you understand why this cuts so deep.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Shocked.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: We're going to see Harry and Meghan just dropping the
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: kids off at the front of Buckingham, but they ain't
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: going in. Spend time with granddaddy. We're not allowed in. No,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I can see this never happening.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I still have hope. I still have hope.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: With that, everyone, we always appreciate you listening to us.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ Holmes.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: We'll talk soon.