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The Muster- Michelle Watt: Country Crossover · The Muster on Hokonui

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  Speaker 1: The Country Crossover, brought to you by Bioactive Soils.
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  Speaker 2: Growing together with healthy soils.
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  Speaker 1: Become a proactive farmer with Bioactive Ag Fertiliser. Michelle Watt
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  Speaker 1: is executive producer of The Country based in Dunedin and
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  Speaker 1: joins us.
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  Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Michelle. Firewoman by the cult. Are you a
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  Speaker 2: firewoman or are you a bogan woman?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I actually really love The Cult, I'll be honest.
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  Speaker 3: Do you remember the game Guitar Heroes that was on PlayStation?
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  Speaker 2: I remember it. I never played it.
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  Speaker 3: I was a whiz at the song by The Cult
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  Speaker 3: that was on there. Loved it. But The Cult's still bogan,
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  Speaker 3: isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't say it's bogan. I'd say it's just
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  Speaker 2: good hard rock, 80s rock.
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  Speaker 3: Good classic rock, eh? They don't do bands like that anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't do rugby like they used to either.
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  Speaker 1: Look, the Highlanders merging with Otago, all the franchises merging
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  Speaker 1: with the local provinces. It's as, I don't know, they're
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  Speaker 1: trying to save rugby or super rugby in particular, but
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  Speaker 1: they're hemorrhaging money.
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  Speaker 2: What's this going to achieve?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it's going to achieve a lot.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, a lot of people that I speak to, including, well,
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  Speaker 3: my own thoughts on super rugby, Andy, is that I
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  Speaker 3: went off it. and turn it to league. I enjoyed
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  Speaker 3: watching the league a lot more. And I just think
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of people that feel the same way.
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  Speaker 3: MPC definitely had a resurgence last year. People got really
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  Speaker 3: excited about it. And I think it's down to people
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  Speaker 3: being able to relate to the players and the team.
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  Speaker 3: You know, all those team players in Otago and Southland,
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  Speaker 3: they're from local teams, aren't they? So that's what makes
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  Speaker 3: it exciting, knowing the players. And I think Super Rugby's
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  Speaker 3: kind of lost that shine.
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  Speaker 2: League players by nature as well.
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  Speaker 1: You listen to their interviews in the media, they're a
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  Speaker 1: lot more, I wouldn't say media savvy, but more relaxed
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  Speaker 1: in front of the camera. I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 1: just individuals or what, but that's just how it comes across.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, look, league in Australia, the program has had a
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  Speaker 3: lot of money sunk into it over the years, and
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  Speaker 3: they've built that up to something that's quite incredible now.
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  Speaker 3: And I think rugby's kind of lagging behind. They're going
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  Speaker 3: to have to sort out, especially this whole succession sort
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  Speaker 3: of thing of going into the All Blacks and building
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  Speaker 3: up those players so that you've got people waiting in
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  Speaker 3: the wings to move up instead of losing them to overseas.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's going to be a big thing.
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  Speaker 1: I talked about this with Mark Kelly yesterday in this
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  Speaker 1: Rugby League World Cup. Yes, it's actually really friendly viewer
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  Speaker 1: times for Kiwis and it's happening over a month. So
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  Speaker 1: these guys are in camp for quite a while, but
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  Speaker 1: you're enjoying your league, aren't you?
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  Speaker 2: You're turning into a real league bogan.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, like I said to you, you can take
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  Speaker 3: the girl away from the Bogan town, but you can't
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  Speaker 3: take the Bogan out of the girl, I don't think.
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  Speaker 3: And years ago, I used to watch State of Origin religiously.
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  Speaker 3: It's on a bit late for me now, I'll be honest.
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  Speaker 3: I kind of fall asleep during it. A bit like
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  Speaker 3: the cricket T20. There's no way I can stay up
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  Speaker 3: that late watching T20. It's far too late for me.
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  Speaker 2: But it's a Friday tonight. Live a little.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, live a little, you reckon. I'll still fall asleep
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  Speaker 3: on the couch.
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  Speaker 2: Stay awake till 12 o'clock watching cricket on a Friday night.
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  Speaker 3: My mind knows no days when it comes to falling
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  Speaker 3: asleep on the couch, let's just say.
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  Speaker 1: Tour of Southland getting underway on Sunday. I speak to
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  Speaker 1: Nath Burden about this later on in the hour.
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  Speaker 2: 70th edition.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really exciting. So this is the longest running
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  Speaker 3: multi-stage cycling race in Australasia as well, which makes it
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  Speaker 3: quite a big deal. It was started on the 27th
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  Speaker 3: of September, 1956. And do you know why it was started, Andy?
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  Speaker 2: Because everything starts somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's a good answer, but it marked the Invercargill
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  Speaker 3: City Centenary. So it was invented for that originally, and
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  Speaker 3: it just kept going. The first winner of that race,
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  Speaker 3: just as a fun fact for you, was Calvin Hastie
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  Speaker 3: from here in Dunedin. Now, we still have a memorial race,
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  Speaker 3: the Hastie Memorial, which we only raced a couple of
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  Speaker 3: weeks ago for the Cycling Otago Club here in Dunedin.
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  Speaker 3: And it's so cool. The family come along to the
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  Speaker 3: end and all meet up, and everyone talks about what
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  Speaker 3: these guys did in the past. A lot of them
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  Speaker 3: went to Europe and tried racing. They did these pro races.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty exciting stuff because back then it would have
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  Speaker 3: been a lot harder. But, yeah, I'm really excited about it.
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  Speaker 3: Day one kicks off on Sunday, of course, with a
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  Speaker 3: team time trial, one lap of Queen's Park, and also
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  Speaker 3: stage one, which is 42-kilometre street race in Invercargill. So
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  Speaker 3: it will be exciting times. Last year's winner is not
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  Speaker 3: going to be there, Josh Burnett, because, of course, they
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  Speaker 3: shifted the Tour of Southland because of the weather storm
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  Speaker 3: last year to January this year, and he's got commitments
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  Speaker 3: to his team overseas, so he's unable to be here
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  Speaker 3: for that. So it could be interesting. There's some top
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  Speaker 3: riders in there as well, Andy. So you've got George Jackson,
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  Speaker 3: who's probably the highest ranking one at the moment, or
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  Speaker 3: highest profile one in the field. He currently rode for
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  Speaker 3: Spanish UCI pro team, Burgos BH, but is in Wushu,
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  Speaker 3: New Zealand, cycling project for this. Tom Sexton, and of course,
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  Speaker 3: Nick Kiriguzu, who did very well last year. He's in
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  Speaker 3: the open country team. So it could be really interesting
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  Speaker 3: racing without Josh Burnett there.
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  Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say Nick Kyrgios for
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  Speaker 2: a moment. Anyway, continuing. A group of Dunedin high school
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  Speaker 2: students have come up with an innovative solution for a
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  Speaker 2: $ 1 million problem facing farmers. This is interesting. What is it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is really interesting. And I think an
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  Speaker 3: example of why ag should stay in schools as a
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  Speaker 3: standalone subject from year 11 upwards, Andy, So this group
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  Speaker 3: of Deneen High School students, who are all from rural backgrounds,
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  Speaker 3: have designed something to stop birds from nesting in machinery, which,
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  Speaker 3: of course, is a big problem this time of year.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you've ever opened up the front
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  Speaker 3: of a tractor after it's been sitting in a shed
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  Speaker 3: over spring.
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  Speaker 1: Many a time, absolutely. Not even just over spring. Over
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  Speaker 1: a lunchtime, over 15, 20 minutes, those little douchebags get
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  Speaker 1: in there and do their business and fly away again.
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  Speaker 1: And you hear more often than not, fires occur. They
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  Speaker 1: happened recently around the region here.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely. And they build these massive nests too. Like sometimes
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  Speaker 3: it's like a whole hay bale is stuffed in there.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how they managed to do it in
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  Speaker 3: such a short amount of time, but they do.
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  Speaker 2: Perhaps the government should employ them and do some of
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  Speaker 2: these housing projects.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they've done very well. They've actually won the 2026
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  Speaker 3: Young Enterprise Otago Company of the Year Award earlier this week.
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  Speaker 3: So they're going to Wellington to represent Otago at the Nationals.
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  Speaker 3: But basically it's a strobe sort of light that sits
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  Speaker 3: inside and it stops, it just deters the birds from
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  Speaker 3: building their nests inside machinery. But they've been trialling it
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  Speaker 3: with 25 different farmers across the region, had really good
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  Speaker 3: feedback about it. Of course, FMG reported earlier in the week,
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  Speaker 3: I think we had on the show, that nesting birds
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  Speaker 3: cause up to $ 1. 2 million worth of tractor fire claims annually.
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  Speaker 3: That's a lot. It's not just tractors, is it? It's utes,
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  Speaker 3: it's other machinery you keep in the shed.
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  Speaker 2: Anywhere an engine gets hot, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's a great one, and I think it's
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  Speaker 3: a really good example of rural kids having a bit
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  Speaker 3: of a common-sense approach to solving a problem, which is
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  Speaker 3: something that you do learn when you grow up rurally,
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  Speaker 3: and I think ag in schools needs to stay because
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  Speaker 3: of that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that totally.
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  Speaker 1: Just to wrap up as well, the Stanford Prison Experiment,
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  Speaker 1: something on Netflix at the moment. I don't watch a
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  Speaker 1: lot of Netflix, but I took time out last weekend
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  Speaker 1: and I watched this from.
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  Speaker 2: Go to woe.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting, just all about the human top three inches and
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  Speaker 1: how people operate.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, this experiment is fascinating. So I was really interested
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  Speaker 3: when you first texted me about this being put on Netflix.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't actually watched it yet, but I studied the
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  Speaker 3: original study when I was at university for psychology. And
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  Speaker 3: the original study, Andy, quite scary. So it was known
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  Speaker 3: as the Stanford Prison Experiment. It was started in 19,
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  Speaker 3: or it was held in 1971. by Professor Philip Zimbardo,
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  Speaker 3: who I have used many times when I've written assignments
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  Speaker 3: at uni.
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  Speaker 2: I was about to say you've used him many times
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  Speaker 2: on the country.
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  Speaker 3: I wish, but no. Cited many times in a lot
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  Speaker 3: of assignments. But they used basically 20, in the real study,
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  Speaker 3: it was 24 healthy male college students selected and they
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  Speaker 3: did psychological screening on them and they were assigned to
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  Speaker 3: being either a guard or a prisoner. Now, interestingly, the
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  Speaker 3: original study was meant to last two weeks, so 14 days.
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  Speaker 3: The simulation involved mock arrests, uniforms changed, authority given to guards.
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  Speaker 3: They had to terminate it after just six days because
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  Speaker 3: there were severe emotional breakdowns among prisoners. prisoners and escalating
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  Speaker 3: cruelty and abuse by the guards. So it just shows
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  Speaker 3: how scary humans can be when they're in a group together,
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  Speaker 3: especially when they're given a bit of power. Now, the
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  Speaker 3: great thing about this study is it did change the
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  Speaker 3: way institutional ethics standards were done on studies after that.
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  Speaker 3: So it meant people didn't just do like these really
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  Speaker 3: crazy weird things that might actually end up damaging people.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a busy old week, Michelle. You enjoy the weekend.
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  Speaker 3: You too, mate.
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  Speaker 1: Michelle Watt and the Country Crossover, thanks to Bioactive Soils.
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  Speaker 2: We're away to Tokanui next. We're catching up with Henry Buckingham.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Henry put his lambing date back to the start
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  Speaker 1: of October, so we're going to catch up and see
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  Speaker 1: how things are fed for him.