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My Fifteen Minutes Of Fame · NYPD Through The Looking Glass

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: Hey everyone, I wanted to do an episode called My 15 Minutes of Fame, and I'll explain kind of what I've been dealing with.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_00: But before we get to that, I'm going to drop an episode tomorrow with retired NYPD police officer Joe Battalamente.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_00: He's a co-author of the new book, The Big One: Reflections of an NYPD Lieutenant.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_00: He's a cop, but he co-wrote it with an NYPD lieutenant, apparently.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_00: Very interesting guy.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_00: Worked in Central Park Precinct for a while.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_00: He's also a stand-up comedian.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_00: He's also an actor.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's got a lot of great stories about that I couldn't have imagined in Central Park.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_00: Good guy.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_00: Reached out to him last week.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_00: He was nice enough to be a guest on the show, so I'll have that out tomorrow.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_00: So I wanted to address a couple of things that it's funny, it just kind of popped up immediately.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_00: For those of you that don't know, all right, so I'm a one-man operation with this podcast, right?
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like I reach out and find guests that I think that are going to be interesting for the show.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: I write out the questions, uh, deal with the technical issues.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm a one-man band, and sometimes some of these guests get demanding, like, why haven't you called me back?
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, you know, I got a life too, you know, so I'm I'm trying to keep everybody happy.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_00: What's funny is if you guys remember the Larry Sanders show from the 1990s, which was like a behind-the-scenes look of what goes on in a TV show, that would be fun.
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  SPEAKER_00: If I had cameras in here following me around all the time about what I have to deal with with some guests, not all, trust me, it would be far more entertaining.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_00: But that that's the point, because I try to treat everyone the same.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_00: And and some guests I find more interesting than others.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I started this podcast originally to pro out my own books.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_00: I'm in it for the money.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm the first to admit it.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_00: I wrote the books to make some money off it.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: I've got this podcast.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_00: I'm finally starting to make a little bit of money.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_00: But it's a slippery slope once you decide you put yourself out there in the world of social media, because everybody's gonna critique your appearance, what you do, what you say, what you didn't say.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_00: I could hear my late mother, if she was around or even if she would have known what a podcast was, like, no, what are you crazy?
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_00: Don't put yourself out there.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_00: But everyone's a critic, including myself.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I gotta catch myself sometimes when I see something, I want to make a comment, and I'm like, well, how would you like it if someone did that on your podcast?
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_00: And then I back up back off.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_00: So last week I had on retired NYPD detective Mike Moy.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_00: Now, Mike had quite a checkered past, and he'll be on by all accounts, he'll tell you he should have never made it on the job.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_00: He knows that.
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  SPEAKER_00: But he did over 20 years, I think he did 26 years, he retired, didn't have any issues on the job.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's collecting a pension.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I knew by having him on as a guest would bring some slings and arrows from some of my NYPD brothers and sisters, because he is a controversial figure.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_00: But he had an interesting story.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I had him on as a guest.
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  SPEAKER_00: And guys, this podcast is for entertainment.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's not a finest message, it's not an intram order, it's about law enforcement stories and true crime.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_00: And after I drop the episode, I start getting the negative comments through social media.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't mind you guys' voicing your opinion.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_00: I get it.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_00: I do the same thing sometimes, and like I said, I gotta hold back.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_00: But when it's when when it starts getting over the top, I got to take the comments down.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_00: And here's why.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: If I allow my guests to get bombarded with negative comments, it'll be that much more difficult for me to get guests on the show.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_00: And you guys have no idea how difficult it is finding good guests, especially retired NYPD members that are willing to put themselves out there.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_00: And I've told this story before.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, once I had my podcast, once I got this podcast going, a lot of guys that I was on the job with, we grew up together in my neighborhood or we went to high school together.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I started reaching out to them and they go, you know, I really enjoy your podcast, but there's no way I'm putting myself out there.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_00: I've had guys that I've reached out to published authors from the NYPD, and I've asked them, and they said, they politely declined.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_00: They said, that's just not my thing.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_00: I wrote the book.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have no interest in putting myself out there.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_00: So I get it.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_00: So let me explain what shorts are for those of you that don't know.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_00: Shorts is I take an episode and through AI, it chops it up into little 30 seconds, 60 seconds.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_00: And the reason I put those shorts out is it attracts more people that might normally not want to watch this podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: YouTube puts it, kind of targets people, and sometimes they they become subscribers and sometimes they don't.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_00: So I got one guy on Instagram and he starts blasting my last guest.
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  SPEAKER_00: At first he was, he was, I let him, you know, a couple of comments, fine.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then he he kind of pissed me off.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's like, I don't know why you're glorifying these people.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_00: I said, I'm not glorifying him.
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  SPEAKER_00: I let him tell his story.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's your decision to make what you think of him.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_00: And he's like, There's so many honest cops that you could have on this podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: I go, you know what?
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_00: You're right.
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  SPEAKER_00: How about you be a guest on the show?
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_00: Nothing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Silence, right?
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_00: Next day goes by, he starts to he just won't let it go.
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  SPEAKER_00: He just keeps beating up on the guests.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_00: So I blocked him.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I feel bad about doing it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But again, guys, this isn't borough-based training or a shitty detail we have to report to.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's entertainment.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you don't have to watch it if you think I'm out of line.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not chasing you away.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_00: But at the same time, I'm gonna have on who I want.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's difficult to get people.
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  SPEAKER_00: But that it's just this just kind of happens so quickly.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_00: So then last night, and then most of you are gonna get a kick out of this.
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  SPEAKER_00: On Instagram, I had a retired chief from our job.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or let me say this: he's whoever this person is representing themselves as a retired chief.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's him, the profile looked legit.
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  SPEAKER_00: He starts jumping on my guest from a couple of weeks ago, Jason Allison, who's not controversial at all.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_00: Guy did 20 years, he was a detective, had a great career.
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  SPEAKER_00: And at one point in the podcast, when I was talking to Jason Allison, we were talking about CompStat.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I didn't think we were out of line.
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  SPEAKER_00: We didn't target anyone.
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  SPEAKER_00: We didn't say, this chief is a son of a bitch, or this captain did this, or this one fooming all the bus.
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  SPEAKER_00: We were just discussing how it was run and how ridiculous it is that you have people down there that just get off on beating up on supervisors that go down there.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Jason made a comment.
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  SPEAKER_00: He said, There's some chiefs, he he didn't say that any names.
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  SPEAKER_00: All he said was there's some chiefs, he goes, and I'm sure they're highly intelligent people, but they weren't investigators.
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  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, they make a mountain over Mohill.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that basically, in summon substance, that that's what he said.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_00: This chief took this to a whole new level that Jason had the audacity to mock Comstat and must have hit a nerve with this chief.
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  SPEAKER_00: So he posts in sum and substance, like, Jason, I know you and you know me.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_00: You were never an executive.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_00: Write your books and enjoy your life and basically keep your mouth shut and you know where to find me.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, is this guy kidding me?
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, this is a retired chief from the New York City Police Department, and he's gonna jump on the comment section and start abusing my guests.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_00: I took the comment down and I blocked him.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_00: And everything he said about Comstat is true.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_00: Listen, I worked in auto crime, which is not the squad, okay?
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: But in autocrime, my last couple of years when when Comstat was coming along, forget it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Our supervisors were in a panic.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I would be chained to our office for two, three days running things and running things and just printing reams of paper just in case they got called on something.
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  SPEAKER_00: They had all the right answers.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because if you go to Comstat and they call on you and they don't like your answer, they'll send you to another precinct.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you get you go from being a detective with Monday to Friday, uh, uh a lieutenant, having Monday to Friday with weekends off in the autoprime division, and they'll send you out to Brooklyn and you live in upstate New York as punishment.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this chief is out of line.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh and it boiled.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here's another thing with Comstat, if the chief is listening.
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  SPEAKER_00: These ridiculous kites.
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  SPEAKER_00: So for those of you that don't know, a kite often, not always, but oftentimes is an anonymous complaint made at the precinct level or someone calls 311 or whatever.
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  SPEAKER_00: It comes in.
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  SPEAKER_00: And again, sometimes they are, you know, no one knows who made these calls.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they make their way to whatever unit, and you have to investigate it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when I worked in narcotics division, we used to get kites all the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Manhattan North was a set.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it just, there was just so many sets.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you get a kite, drug sales, just for argument's sake, 1013 Dykeman, Dykeman Avenue, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So drug sales, male Hispanics, seven days a week, and they they're selling red top crack.
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  SPEAKER_00: So what you would do is you'd go out there with another detective, you'd sit out there and you do surveillance a couple of times.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you go there two, three times, you don't see anybody out there pitching, you close out the kite.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was there on this date, I was on this date and this date, sign it out.
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  SPEAKER_00: Say there are guys out there selling a crack.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, perfect.
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  SPEAKER_00: You send your undercovers out there, they make a couple of buys, you make the arrest, you close out the kite.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: In auto crime, it was a little different.
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  SPEAKER_00: So one day, and I kid you not, I get a kite.
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  SPEAKER_00: I almost thought it was a joke.
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  SPEAKER_00: I get a kite from an anonymous person that he was in a barbershop in Midtown Manhattan, and there was a guy sitting next to him talking about a chop shop.
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  SPEAKER_00: Didn't say where the chop shop was, didn't give a description of the guy, just said, I was in a barbershop this weekend, and then there was a guy sitting next to me talking about a bar uh a chop shop.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we go to the neighborhood because he said he said it was on the corner of whatever in Midtown, right?
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_00: There's no barbershop.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's absolutely no barbershop, right?
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_00: So I go back and I tell my sergeant, and he goes, Oh, no, no, no, you got to do more than that.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's an anonymous complaint.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's no chop shops in Midtown Manhattan.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's not even someone in a barbershop I can talk to to say, was there a guy in here the other day that's a regular customer that was talking about?
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_00: Nothing, right?
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, no.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_00: If I get called on this, I had to go back.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_00: On the second floor of a building, there was a lice removal service.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know about you guys, but I don't want lice.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_00: I had to go in there and like, and no one spoke English.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_00: So anyway, I closed out the kite, but I had to do all these checks on the buildings, a day and a half worth of work that I could have been out there making collars or working on an investigation.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_00: Just because if my boss got called down to Comstat and a chief picked up a kite and goes, Sergeant, well, Lieutenant, what's going on with this kite of a chop shop?
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_00: Did you do this?
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: Did you do that check?
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_00: Did you do that check?
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_00: So again, my theory on Comstat is it was good in the beginning because it got rid of a lot of the dead wood.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_00: But again, it's chemotherapy.
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  SPEAKER_00: And to keep your foot on the gas doing this, you're burning people out.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_00: The amount of fear it put into supervisors to go down there, I just, you know, I think it was good at one time, but I think it ran its cost.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_00: But apparently this chief thinks it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_00: And apparently he thinks that Jason was speaking about him, which Jason just said these chiefs.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_00: And he didn't even knock them.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_00: He just said they didn't have it, most of them didn't have an investigator background.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_00: So anyway, that that's my two cents.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_00: Here's another issue I have with my 15 minutes of fame.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: There are some who have reached out to me, and I'm glad you have, but I don't feel some are a good guest for the podcast.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_00: And we talk and I ask where you worked, and you know, you don't have any war stories, and you're not particularly interesting to me.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_00: You know, that that's just me.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_00: And it's my podcast.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: I get to pick and choose.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_00: And there's so many other podcasts you can reach out to.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_00: But I just find it ironic.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_00: One guy reached out to me, and he used to have a podcast.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_00: And when I was first starting out years ago, I it was even probably before I had my podcast, it was just an author, I reached out to him and asked him if I could be a guest on his show.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_00: Didn't hear a thing.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, what comes around goes around.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_00: And and here's another issue I have with my 15 minutes of fame.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_00: There's one guy, I don't know how to even how to explain this.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_00: We spoke once two years ago, okay?
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_00: Listen, after two years, if I haven't returned multiple calls, text messages, emails, and now the latest social media posts for me to get in touch with you, I don't have time.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not interested.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_00: I wish you well, I really do.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_00: You're on our job, so you know, I wish the best of luck to you, but just please leave me alone for the love of God, because I just have a lot of things to do, and I just don't have time for this.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_00: But again, I I'm I'm not doing this to insult anybody or if I did, I'm sorry.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_00: But it's just the way I feel about things.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's my 15 minutes of fame.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'll have Joe Battalionante.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_00: I hope I pronounced that right.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm half Italian, but some of these names I just can't pronounce.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_00: Good guy.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_00: He's got a lot of interesting stories.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'll have that out tomorrow.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: And as always, I want to thank everyone for tuning in, especially my listeners in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Sotherby, Connecticut, Anderson, Indiana, Greenville, Texas, and Roy, Utah.
• 12:48
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• 12:54
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• 12:56
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• 12:59
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• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks again, everyone.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: I really and I do appreciate the support and everybody and your kind words.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks again, and I'll talk to you tomorrow.