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• Do You Want The Truth?: Welcome back to the truth about reselling. Today we're talking to Morgan from Effie's home. So if you don't follow her, go ahead and find her in our show notes. She is a former educator, turned reseller. She does this full time and we get into kind of everything as we all do, including ADHD diagnoses and what her life looks like now that she is a reseller rather than an educator. So we hope you enjoy the episode. So I gave you my number and I said it was like around sixty thousand dollars in sales, right? Which is amazing. And ⁓ but I'm like I wanna be like a hundred thousand dollars in sales. Yeah and I would so then I'm bringing home closer to like seventy and eighty after you know tax and fees. Right. And I feel like and back to what you were saying, Sam, so my husband is in tech and my husband is the one that has like this huge paycheck and I feel so it's like small in comparison, not because he makes me feel that way, but I'm like Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's hard I want to do more. I know it's hard. I know I also feel like when you know the possi like the potential, yeah. It's hard not to want that. And I feel like for me, like I'm very like capped out on like what I can do with four kids at home. So like I can only do as much as I can do. Without outsourcing. Yeah. Yeah. Or without putting my kids in daycare or without, you know, like doing stuff that I don't want to do. So it's really hard because I I just resonate with that so much. It's like you want so much more, but like at some point there are scaling is hard. And scaling takes a really big toll. Like you have to give up things to scale. Obviously it's worth it in a lot of cases, but Yeah. So so your goal, so you're at like 60 and you want to be at a hundred. So I go through this too, right? Because I'm like, I'm looking at my numbers and I'm like, why was my first year of reselling kind of not equal, but like kind of equal? I I think I've grown like forty percent year over year, which I'm still like you would I don't know. I that's really good. No, nothing. But like you know, when it's like, but I but I'm like doing so much work. Yeah. And so I think it can be a little like, like, what am I doing wrong? So how have you seen the people online who scale? Like who are like, I run, I forget her name. She runs like a million dollar business out of eight hundred square feet. And I'm like, how? How do you do that? Because I can't tell if it's real or not. Yeah. No, yeah. No, I agree. I I'm always thinking that. Cause I feel like there's a couple ways. Like Amanda, so like palettes, you can do palettes. ⁓ but then that comes with space and do you have like the resources? Like, can you access those? Or you're buying really high-end inventory. But then there's lots of costs that go into that too. Yeah. So Yeah. I think it's it's an interesting conversation to have. I get this so much and I know I've like touched on this, but people love to be like, well, just tell me how where to get pallets. Like I want to start reselling and I want to start with palettes. And it's like, you don't want to start with palettes. I promise you, you don't. I know that like we post about it on social media and it looks so fun. You don't see the absolute junk that I get and that I have to figure out what to do with. You don't see that like 50% of my palettes are Amazon trash. You know, like you don't see that. And like I try to illustrate that, but obviously it's more fun to show the good stuff. And it's like you don't people don't understand. And also like the gamble of like, I've gotten palettes with stuff that have skid marks in them. Like disgusting, absolute filthy, nasty, disgusting stuff that I spent thousands and thousands of dollars on. You know, and it's like it's not just buy a palette and all of a sudden you can come become rich by posting stuff. I don't know. It's just ⁓ or like you said, like high-end stuff, but also then you need the capital to be able to invest more money. To buy the things that will help h yeah, exactly. Like that will send it And you have to store them and then you have to do all of those things. And I will tell you. And they will tell a lot of my So I'm like, do I want to pay up for that? Probably not. Right. I know. Yeah. It's not it's not as simple, I think, as a lot of people want to make it seem. Yeah, or like the get rich quick schemes on like whatnot. When we talked to Kelsey from Lucky in Love, she was like, I do eight hours a day, like five days a week. She's online. And I think those are the things that people aren't actually showing is like, you know, on social media, it's like, you know, Amanda see the see shows the highlights because that's what she can show and what is fun to show and it it's uplifting, but you're not seeing like the eight hours of grinding literally on whatnot with three people coming in or whatever it is. Yeah. ⁓ five days a week. And so but you started off as a teacher. So I'm really ki I'm and you have your master's in history, right? Yes, I do. Okay. So The way that translates into vintage is I I wanna touch on that. But first, what like how did you get from teacher and what grade were you teaching over to reselling? ⁓ well, desperation is how I got it. So I taught high school, I taught middle school, but mostly high school history. ⁓ I started off I was a teacher in Virginia for a while, actually an alternative school. So kids in and out of the justice system, ⁓ really hard behaviors. But actually I love that. It was really rewarding. ⁓ and then I did a charter school in Oregon and then I taught here at a like a very traditional, nationally ranked high school in North Carolina. And by far this was like the worst experience I've ever had teaching. Isn't that interesting? The behavior was just insane. And the administrators just did nothing about it. And part of it's just like the district to avoid county. They just So I was like What do mean the behaviors? What do you mean the behaviors of like Like what is this? Am I like a curse on here? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. ⁓ okay. So to keep this in perspective, when I was with alternative school, obviously it was really bad. I had kids throw stuff at me, curse me out, but there was always like a consequence and then a way to repair it. And it was all about building relationships with them. But teaching now is all about building relationships without any normal consequence. And it just kind of comes abusive of other students and the teachers. So it was like I would be getting cursed out, I'd be getting screamed at. Things are being thrown in a regular classroom. I had forty kids in this regular classroom. I had a kid who every day, 40 every day. And when I asked him to put his phone away, he'd tell me to get off his dick. ⁓ my god. Like, how do you not laugh? And like just a kids stealing from each other, kids stealing from me. And ⁓ one time I ha Left, ⁓ I had like a day off and I came in ⁓ the next day and I kept a lot of free food in my room for kids that didn't have food at home. And ⁓ someone had stolen all of it. It was like this huge cab, like all and I'm just like, okay. I also made a lot less money than I did even as a first year teacher in Virginia here as I had like seven years experience. So I was like, I need a Out at this point. ⁓ and I had just been diagnosed with Lyme disease. This was like the peak of like my sickness, Dan. I was like, I need to take care of myself. And I actually watched Mogey Bath for a long time on YouTube. ⁓ and I I like I love thrifting, I love shopping. And I would find the first thing I found was this Escada vintage Y2K beaded silk skirt that was just insane. And I was like, I could sell this, like I know, I know I could sell this. ⁓ and so That's what got the idea going. And I resigned in twenty twenty two and I posted my first item I think in like August. Yeah. Wow. That's cool. So you haven't I mean, you know what's so interesting is you're really successful and you haven't been doing this that that long. Like when you think about Yeah. You know, what you're I mean, that's not twenty twenty six. I have no idea. Like you all know how. I have no idea what's happening today. ⁓ no, but that's And you make more than you did teaching now as a reseller, right? Yeah. And you didn't have to have a master's. After taxes and everything here, I was bringing home like $23,000 a year. And then all of the yeah, and all the rate and the stress. That's insane. Yeah. And so I'm closer to like forty thousand after taxes and everything. Yeah. That's awesome. Amazing. ⁓ and your history. Degree because one one of the things that I love watching your content about is because you do know a lot about like the vintage pieces that that you're talking about. And I learn a lot that way too. just like, yeah, from watching all of you because I'm like I don't know how to do anything, but I can like monkey see, monkey do. But it's really interesting. Do you think that it helps you in the vintage portion or do you think that yeah. I think definitely. So part of it too, my background, I grew up in an antique store because my grandma owned one. And so that was like my daycare. And my mom is also a vintage collector. She for herself, vintage jewelry, vintage clothes. So I have that kind of knowledge. But I think that fashion is history, right? Like it's the combination of art, it's the combination of what events were going on at the time. Like there's so much that goes into it. So yeah, I mean definitely that informs it. Yeah. And I think you're so good at that. You are so good at like dating things. And like I would look at something and I'd be like, I have literally no clue. I would be like Googling so much to figure out like any information. I feel like you just have like a really good knack for that. Well, thank you. I think, yeah, I think it's just practice though, like anything else. Also, if you love it, I think that's the other thing that can come through is like, you know, a lot of people pick up Y2K pieces because they're gonna sell well. But it's nice when you're like, Hey, this is from the nineteen fifties and I've restored it and I like Whatever, because I've seen you do some I don't know, that's not the exact example, but ⁓ I wanna learn how to do that to because I find so many pieces and I'm like, I don't know how to repair stuff. Like so I just sell it as is and I'm like I could replace the heels and stuff like that, but beyond tightening buttons, I can't really, you know, like and and so w when I see people like do stuff and make the colors better or get the smell out, it's like very inspiring because I'm like, ⁓ yeah, there there is so much more life in these items. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And it's worth it. It's worth it if you have the time or the desire to do that. ⁓ yeah. For sure. And 'cause the they don't make ⁓ like that anymore. That sounds so cheesy, but I mean, it's hard to find. And so if you know how to restore it, it's really rewarding. But I've also damaged some stuff too. So yeah, I'm sure that there's like a little bit of trial and error there. Yeah, I I have this. ⁓ I randomly found a consignment partner in my storage area. She like gave me a bunch of stuff. She lives in the Oakland Hills, and I know you the Bay Area, but the Oakland Hills like the ritzy part of East Bay. And it's like Oakland Hills is where it starts to get fancy. And so she gave me these beautiful vintage Talbot Italian yarn, yeah, Italian wool, and they had some spots on it and I went to clean it off and it d it like bleached the fabric. Which I'm like, so I'm like, do I dye them? And I'm like, ooh, a chocolate brown. And then I'm like, that feels a bit ambitious, but it it's either they're completely ruined and they're like perfect the perfect silhouette for right now. have either of you dyed anything before? Yes. Okay. Yeah, I have not successfully, so I'm not gonna give you a chocolate. Okay. Have you successfully, Morgan? Yes. I have. And do you recommend it? Okay. Yes. I would say it's like getting my biggest thing is you need to get a pot that's like the right size. ⁓ Because if you don't, then the the ⁓ the ink, no, the dye distributes weird and it can leave weird spots. Cause I've definitely where it was folded or something, there would be like bare spots. So that was like my main issue. I saw a girl dye a what was it? It was like a vintage suede beautiful jacket and she wanted it a different color and it was it was designer and I watched her do it on TikTok. I was like, don't do it, don't do it. And it turned out horrible and it like completely ruined the jacket. ⁓ no I forget what she was trying to make it. ⁓ I'll see if I can send you out the video afterwards, but I was like, don't do it because you just know it's gonna you like suede is like different suede seems so scary. Yeah that one's a little bit don't mess with suede. Yeah it scares me. Yeah, that one is like the I I can brush it and I can clean it and stuff like that, but yeah. So you sell on four platforms, right? Or is it three? Three. Three. Yeah to think about it. Yes, three. Poshmark, eBay, Deepop. Yes. What's your favorite? For what reason? Any of them, any of them. Well, right now Poshmark because it's ⁓ giving me the most money. ⁓ and it is pretty consistently my my favorite as far as ease of use. ⁓ I've definitely had some customer service issues as of late this last year, but I I would say it's my favorite. And then eBay, it used to be it's just like they've the what I'm selling on there, it's gone down a lot. I just posted a video on that the other day and I don't know why. but like I do I do feel like eBay's customer service has actually gotten better since I started selling over there. I agree with that. Yeah, I think eBay has gotten better. We do have to talk about how now you can relist stuff. And you can take your listings down on Poshmark because I'm so happy about that. I've been going crazy. Well not crazy but Yeah. But also you're like finally, finally, that stupid useless some freedom. Rule. I'm not ⁓ relist my whole closet every day, girl. I'm not even I just like to keep it around like thirty days. Yeah. So you both refresh around thirty days now that that has changed. Yeah, I wouldn't instantly ⁓ we are going right back to that. I gotta see what I say. I think I have mine set because I used to have it set to 120 just because I'm like I have so much inventory. I wanna get through the old stuff. But then I just changed it to be maybe sixty or thirty, something like that, maybe forty-five. And I have been selling more. I think it helps. I really do. How much inventory do you have, Sam? ⁓ listed about four thousand, I think. ⁓ wow, okay. Yeah. And it's not including the death pile. Yeah. So I'm one of those people who invested it. And I don't think this is talked about enough in reselling. Like I okay. So I have a shopping addiction. I'm trying to work on it, but I love shopping, but thrifting. Like I will never ever in my life pay full price for something. Like I just unless it's for my son, then I will, but I just can't do it. like this top I bought on, I'll tell you all the site after, but it's a six hundred dollar top. And like, why would you ever pay six hundred dollars for this? So yes, I paid 150, but I'm like, that's a you know, like a pretty good deal. Yeah. So ⁓ which is also like You know, I used to shop like that a bit more, but now now that I don't work in tech, I I don't think it's talked about enough, you know, the investment that it can take to get this reselling. And I know Amanda started differently, but Amanda, do you want to talk a little bit about how you started? 'Cause I Morgan, I'm also really interested in like what you started picking up. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and this is kind of what I recommend, but it is different than what Sam did. And I think that that's totally fine. That's why I love this podcast, is we can kind of illustrate like how different people do it. Like I started and I always recommend like sell things in your house, sell things that you can get for cheap, sell things for your family, so that you can kind of practice. But Sam totally went a different route. And I'm curious, like, did you start thrifting and just kind of hit the ground running that way? Like with a plan. Morgan. Yeah, Morgan. Yeah. Me, okay. ⁓ yeah, I was like, I'm gonna make orc. Yeah. I love that. It was kind of like I said, a little bit of desperation. I need to get out, I need to do something, and I want to build something for myself. ⁓ so I just started with basically I would say again, Mogey Beth, like what she was picking up and trying to figure it out from there. And I definitely found what did not work. And sometimes I've held on to what did not work for too long. ⁓ and then I found what did. And I I would say it really took me about two years to feel really comfortable where I can just go in and be like, Yes, yes, yes, no, and just move through it really quick. Yeah. Do you have a storage unit? Me, no. I work out of my one ⁓ little guest bedroom upstairs. I love that. That's great. Especially for the amount that you're bringing in and you've doubled your salary since teaching. Like that's incredible. Yeah. Yeah. That's amazing. How many items do you have left listed? ⁓ right now it's about sixteen thirty. Yeah. That's great. Especially out of your like guest bedroom. You must be very organized. Are you very organized? Are you type in? Okay, I try to be. ⁓ my husband and our friend Phil, they built me these really nice custom racks and so I have all these containers, everything stacked up. I should do an office tour. But ⁓ I say I'm organized, but listen, in the last day I've had three items missing that I had to find. Like somehow when I put it in my Google Sheets inventory system, it doesn't always save and then I'm like desperately trying to like find everything. Ooh, Google Sheets inventory. I wanna hear about your inventory system. Very simple. It's like the Excel Google Sheet and I just have like the item where it's stored like the bin number and then how much I paid when it was listed. That's about it. ⁓ so you don't do that in Vendu? No, because I had this way before I had Vendu. So I just kept it going. So you just kept it going. It'd be like a lot to switch it all over to Vendu too. Yeah. Yeah. Did any of you use my reseller genie? No. So I pay for it. I haven't used yet. Because they they give out they send out cool newsletters. I should actually probably stop, but what is it? ⁓ yeah, tell us essentially tracks all of your eBay Poshmark Depop sales and does all that for you. Obviously, not like the tracking of your bin system and stuff, but I am very typey and I am always like tax time comes around and I'm like kicking myself because I was not on top of it. And it is like a lifesaver. It is a lifesaver. It totally like does all of that hard work for you. All you have to know is like what you paid and like for the item and all of that stuff. But resources, I need to play around sponsor more. No, not sponsored at all. Nope. I've paid for it and I need to play with it play around with it more, but I'm a big fan. Especially if you don't want to do like a lot of the like clerical work. Yeah. Of being a reseller. It does a lot of that for you. Because extensions are due, what, in the next month? I got a business extension. Is it ⁓ did you already do yours, Amanda? Your taxes? Mine. Yeah. ⁓ mine are good. Sit down. You're so good. I need to sit down and I knew if I didn't do it, I was gonna stress about it. And I was like, why? I'm not gonna make myself stress about it for four more months. I'm just gonna freaking get it done. But it was miserable and I hate it. The worst part of my year, honestly. Yeah. Wait, w did you just get it done or you got it done four months? No, I got it done. Yeah, I got it done like I think I got it done beginning of April. No, maybe like end of March. So. Yeah. I was like still pushing it. Morgan, do you ⁓ do you get an extension or you're probably one of those people who doesn't? I had it in because I have too much anxiety around Same. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I will be a mess. But I do use I have ⁓ an accountant, so I'm not doing it. And my husband, he's he's the tech guy. He figured out how to plug everything we needed into the AI overlords and they popped out the numbers and everything. So 'cause it's just me too. That's like all the clerical work. And I I do keep obviously records of everything, what it sold for, and then profit, cost of goods. But then he just used that and popped in the information. So do you use the system where you do the year it sells is when you claim the inventory cost, or do you do it the year it's bought? I do so I do mine the year it's bought. That's a great conversation for my ⁓ accountants. Like I'm not sure. I just changed this year. What you change to Amanda? So I've always done it the year I the year it sells sells. So like the last three years I claim that the year it sells. But this year, because of palettes, it's much more advantageous for me to do it the year I bought it. Just because I'm spending s the hun like tens of thousands of dollars on palettes. So that makes sense. Yeah. So I switched this year, but that was I mean I actually think my reseller Genie, when I signed up for that, they asked you like which you do because they need to know how to track it. And they broke it down. I wish I had it in front of me, but they broke it down. I think it is for like the average reseller who's not spending like just insane amounts of money on inventory every year. I think it is in your benefit to or they believe it's in your benefit to claim it the year itself. That's what I do. And then I have like a leftover inventory. Yes. Yes. I buy too much. So for me it doesn't make sense. Actually I have I have stopped. as much. No, I'm not buying as much. you know that trend that's going around TikTok, like the five things that are worth worth investing in. What would you say are the five things each of you thinks is worth investing in as a reseller? I actually made a video on this. I'm trying to remember. Yes, I did. I'm trying to remember a CPA is my number one and I like, I don't know how anyone runs a business of any without a good yes. Yeah. Morgan was like CPA for sure. I want a CPA to tell me what to do. I also am like then you if you hit a threshold where you are making enough money, you also need a CPA that knows good track tax strategies to help reduce your tax liability. Like it's a whole thing, a whole world I did not understand. And I love being able to like have someone to consult and to be like, just tell me what to do and someone you trust. And like the guy that does mine, he's amazing. He's done mine since I started reselling and it's great. So that's like that's my number one. I also always say like software. I wish I would have invested in software way earlier. Cross listing, like automation, all of that has saved you so much time. Yes. And we all use you all we all use Vendu and Prime Lister. D Morgan, do you l yep. For offers? Venu. You use Vendo, no problem lister. I use Bendu and then Flip. I'm I'm thinking of because Vendu came out with the the new offer system and I've just been too lazy. Well, not lazy. I've been too busy and overwhelmed to like trade over everything and set it up. And I need to do that and just consolidate. ⁓ I do use Flip for that. It's nice to have like it all in one spot, I will say. Like that is really nice to only pay for like one platform or one service. I would add on to worth investing in a good organization system with like nice racks, nice boxes where it's it just all works. Yeah. So a storage system of sources. A storage system. Because for so long, I don't want to say mine was thrown together, but I had like all these mismatched bins. I had like pot yeah. And it would it created so much like anxiety and overwhelm in it. And then I would say a really good like steamer system. Like a high quality steamer. Mm-hmm. And iron since you can't use a steamer on silk. I just got a cordl I just got a cord well, I I don't know. People say you're not supposed to, who knows? ⁓ I know people who put silk in the dryer, so whatever. ⁓ Yeah. I wash silk, I hand wash it and I put it in the washing machine depending on what it is. Yeah. ⁓ I will not dry it. I dried some silk that I got at the be bins the other day. The other day, as in. I got it in Austin. I just washed it. ⁓ and it came out fine. It was a bed skirt. And I was like, okay, well that that but I didn't care how it came out. So it was like one of those things. Right. Testing worth worth a sample. Because it doesn't matter if it shrinks because it's a bed skirt. But ⁓ okay. So we have CPA software. That was the one for me that was really difficult with software because I'm like, Well, if I'm not selling that much, like I didn't understand how much value I would get in an offer system and cross listing. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, is $30 a month worth it? Because when you're starting out, $30 feels like a lot. Feels like a lot. Especially over time. ⁓ and so that was really hard for me to get over. And then I was like, okay, I'm just gonna try it. And then I was like, ⁓ my stuff that I got is finally selling. So I wish I would have done that before investing in inventory. ⁓ because I had a ton of my personal stuff listed, but it wasn't selling because I didn't have a way to send offers or anything like that. So I think that that is a great one. So we have those three storage. System like an organizational system. Do either of you use like lighting or like a lighting box or anything like that? I don't. I don't have space for it. Yeah. I have natural light. Yeah. Yeah. Your lights good. I bought one when I returned it's too big. That would definitely be something to invest in if you are like, especially if you're working out like a small apartment where there's not a lot of good lighting. Like because it makes such a difference in your photos and presentation and really presentation is everything. Yeah. Yep. You know, I tried to take pictures the other day. After the bin's just outside. And I don't know if y'all follow Prairie Dust. I don't know her real name, but she does a lot of jeans, a lot jeans. And all of her pictures always look so good. But every time I take stuff out, even in the shade, it gets totally blown out. Like the light the light is just not balanced. So for me, I do better with natural light indoors though. So like yeah, two to four is like my perfect window, maybe two to five where I am. Yeah. It's like so hard. The lighting. lighting component of it. I didn't realize would be so hard. I know. And then like photographing black items makes me want to jump off a bridge. Black. I always have to edit it. Mine is white. White is the hardest for me. Yeah. Black I can do for whatever reason. Drives me crazy. I'm like it just you can never see the details. It just looks like a big lump. Or it gets those weird like light refractions across it that makes it look like there's one big faded spot in the middle and you're like You're like, I promise it's perfect. I promise it's fine. Yeah, I know. Yeah, okay. I don't think we have five. What would be so just good lighting, good presentation? Yeah. ⁓ what would be like what else was on my list? Just posted that last week or two weeks ago. I would say if you have like ⁓ if you're taking photos on your phone, which I feel like most of us are upgrading your phone over time because the camera does make a difference. Yep. I just upgraded my phone like two weeks ago, right before we went to Disney and I'm like, wow, my camera is so nice all of a sudden. It's crazy. What what phone did you upgrade to? I just upgraded to the seventeen pro. Okay. I am I'm kind of hitting myself. Yeah. I was thinking like I guess the Pro Max is an even better camera. And I'm like, I maybe should have just done that. It just feels so massive and I just didn't want like such a massive phone. But I'm like, where I do everything I do is on my phone. Maybe it would have been worth it, but it's fine. Yeah. Yeah. It made a big difference though. Interesting. So good camera. Yeah. Good so yeah. Good so it's almost like all the good operational things to get set up. Yes. Yeah. I think it also shows I love lists like this because it also shows like a lot of the other stuff doesn't necessarily matter. Like if you have like a good core, like you know, like a good basis, a lot of the other stuff is just like give and take and like take what you like and what works for you and everyone's gonna do it a little different. I know a lot of people have said on their list, like a thermal printer. I do have a definitely thermal printer. I totally forgot that. Do you guys have expensive thermal printers? I have just a freaking cheap one I have had off Amazon for three years. And I'm like, I don't think you need to spend money on a Rolo or a Dymo or something that's like outrageously expensive. What do Some of them are like three or four hundred bucks. No, I paid like seven hundred Yeah, I'm like I yeah, I think I paid like sixty bucks. I do the Jade In. The Jade In I feel like is really solid. I've never had any issues with it. It's like, why were we not using thermal printers our whole lives? Like, what is this? I know. It costs less than like a cartridge, an ink cartridge. No, when I started reselling, probably for the first year, I was ordering these sleeves off of US or UPS off their Whipped website. And then I was printing it off on a normal printer. I was folding it in half, putting it in the sleeve, pulling off the sticky backing. I'm like, what? Doing that because I was too cheap, and I was probably spending like 200 bucks in ink a year just for my stupid probably more probably more than that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I just was like, I just felt like another thing to buy, and I didn't want to buy another thing, and it's also so important. Yeah. But I feel like it's so important to like invest in your business, even when you feel like, ⁓ I I don't want to spend any more money. But when it comes to like operational stuff like that, it really it saves you money in the long run. Like I I mean, like you were saying with not paying thirty dollars for a service, that's one sale. And it's like ⁓ you will be making ten plus, twenty plus, thirty plus more sales with like the automation and it's so worth it. No, it totally is. I even think about that with like when I started whatnot, I went to Target and I just got cheap clothing racks from there. They like, I don't know, twelve bucks a piece. I had to get like six of to hang two hundred items. And I had one show where they fell in the middle of my shelf. No. And they were so rickety, like you couldn't move them wrong. And they would just like almost like cave in on themselves if they got heavy. So finally I invested in their like the Z racks. So they have like a huge Z on the bottom. They're very, very sturdy. And I'm like, why? Why did I do that to myself? And again, I had to spend more money in the long run because I paid for the ones from Target. And then I also had to rebuy them like three months later because they were such trash. Yeah. So it's like just buy the good stuff in the beginning. Yeah. If you're gonna use it. Yeah. I think the same with storage. I got a small storage unit because it's like, ⁓ I only need a small one and really you need a big one. And you know, like I think that is like or I need a big one, I should say. ⁓ when I don't take my GLP one. Now I'm back on my GLP one this week and now I'm like, ⁓ what did I do last week? It's literally like feel like a different person. I I feel like a different person. Yeah. I'm like on such a low dose and it helps so much for me to be like, ⁓ I didn't need all that. I have all of this. It's so weird. That's so interesting. Yeah. ⁓ but how has okay, so you had a pretty challenging experience in teaching, and I know I'm kind of jumping around here, but has your mental health improved since reselling? Okay. But that that's like a hard comparison, right? Because you're comparing it to teaching but mine has improved so much too. And we were talking before we started that I used to make so much money in tech and I get down on myself because I'm like I'm trying to get back to that level and getting to like a three hundred thousand dollar salary from reselling isn't gonna be the easiest thing without doing like whatnot or having social media. I think those are the two that like people are making those those types of yeah, dollars. But ⁓ I don't know. it can be, but I'm still so much happier. Like I'm so like exponentially happier. And I'm like, I'd probably die earlier earning a bunch of money. You know, like you see all these people, they work their lives away and then they die five or ten years after leaving these very high stress jobs because your body just like gives out. and so that's what I keep trying to rem remind myself, like, ⁓ no, like this is about the long. the long haul and like being there for family and enjoying your life and not just working to you know, like working to live instead of living to work. No, I get what you're saying. That was a big part of it for me too, is like I wanted more flexibility in my day. And a lot of people when you say that, they take it to mean you don't want to work as hard. Yeah. I work my ass off. I am constantly working. And most of us are. I work just as hard as I did when I was a teacher, but it's without like added stresses and I have more flexibility to like take care of myself. So like I can go to my one hour workout class. I d I love when it does that. ⁓ I can do that and take care of my body. I have time to make healthy meals. I have time to sleep well. ⁓ but also that means okay then maybe I work a few hours on the weekend. That's a fair trade off for me. Yeah. Especially when you love what you're do you do. You're like, ⁓ I get to go shopping on the weekend. I'm so sad. Like that's so hard, you know? Yeah, it's fun. And like my husband's really supportive of it. Like he'll come with me or whatever. And a lot of this too is like talking about kids. Like I don't have kids right now. But I want kids and teaching is not conducive to raising a family as there it goes again. Except during the summer. Except during the summer and like once they're in daycare. I was like I was so burnt out in the summer. Don't talk to me. I'm so burnt out at night. Don't talk to me. I can't even be here for myself, let alone my husband. How would I raise children? That and that's why I quit too. I was like I I hate it all. I I like didn't want to be a parent. I didn't want to be a wife. I was like, fuck you, get get away from me. And now I'm like, ⁓ let me sit in a dark room for four hours. Not to say that I'm not like that still. Like my kid was such a jerk to me this morning. I was like, ⁓ my God. But it it's it comes in small bursts instead of like being all the time and like clocking out of your job and then being like, ⁓ my God, now I have to go deal with this. Yeah. ⁓ and I don't think people understand like the when you're your own boss, if you have motivation, you're gonna work a lot, but you don't have to do it when somebody tells you to do it. Like I know. I don't know. Morgan, do have the thing where if somebody tells you to do something, you don't want to do it? It depends. If it's someone that I look up to or like appreciate, you know, about a manager. Well, again, it depends. Like I had some great managers, great bosses. If they told me to do something, you'd be like, Yeah, I'll do it plus 10. Like, yeah, I'm there for you. ⁓ but I also had like awful bosses where I'm like, You are a micromanager. I am way better than you anyway. Right. Not doing I'm not I don't want to t take your instruction. Because you're not very good at your job. Why are you telling me how to do fine? So I very much like I probably have undiagnosed ADHD because I have a lot of that. That's what I was trying to get to. Yeah. I was trying to get to ⁓ 'cause Amanda, do you have that where if somebody tells you to do something, you're like F off? I've had that my whole life. Yeah. So that's like a symptom of ADHD where it's like a demand avoidance. Yeah. So I was trying to get to that because we've talked to so many people and it seems like a lot of resellers or and entrepreneurs are neurodivergent in some sort. Amanda and I are not diagnosed. No, we're not. But I mean based on my emails last night and this morning. I'll diagnose you. You can diagnose me. I actually went in to get diagnosed like two two, three weeks ago. And instead of in AD instead of ADHD, I came out with O C D, which both my therapist and I were like, That's not right. She misdiagnosed you so much. It was it was a very interesting experience. For intrusive thoughts or intrusive thoughts, but I feel like it was mischaracterized because I get intrusive thoughts about productivity and that makes me anxious. Or like forgetting to do things because I'm always afraid of forgetting to do stuff. And I am someone all like I gave this example. ⁓ I was unloading the laundry, transferring the laundry. I saw a task out here while I was putting it on the drying rack. I came and did this task. Then I saw something else, then I did something else. And then I was like, wait, did I unload the washer? ⁓ my god, I didn't unload the washer last night. And this is what I was trying to like explain. And I think they like misdiagnosed it as like O C D in some way. I don't I don't know. It was not a very holistic diagnose because I've obviously a therapist, like I am not new to doctors in any way. So I'm like, I don't think this person's very equally. We're gonna get a second opinion on that one. Yeah. So what did you want to too if someone's like recommending medication for you? You want to make sure you're like doing what you're doing. What medication did they recommend? Well, something for O C D. Which it's like Zoloft, right? It's like a Zola. It was it was gonna be something, and I've actually already been on Zolof once when I was in grad school. It was not helpful for me. And I am full disclosure, I'm on a very low dose of buspurin now for anxiety, ⁓ which has been very effective for me. So yeah, when I was on that too for after I had my last kid and it like totally changed everything. It was helpful. Really? Yeah. Mm-hmm. I I am on I was only on a twenty five milligram dose of Zolof because I thought that was a high dose for whatever reason. I grew up like ⁓ medicine is bad. You don't take aspirin, you don't take anything. And so it was really hard for me to break. I and now I'm on a hundred and like twelve milligrams of Zolof. And I'm like, this is where I should have been living. Like this makes me but then it makes my ADHD symptoms way worse because it makes me forget things, which is probably why my anxiety is so much lower. Cause I don't have depression, I have anxiety and ⁓ intrusive thoughts and Zolof helps with that. And I just think about like how much better my life would have been had I been on this, like postpartum. ⁓ but it does make me very forgetful. And I think that's probably why it helps with anxiety and OCD. Like you forget all the things. Like you're a time to be story about everything. That's where my anxiety stems from, it's a fear of forgetting things. So you'll lose that if you go up in your dams. No, I literally forgetting stuff. Yeah. I literally forgot to unload the dishwasher not the dishwasher, the washing machine. So as we were talking about this, I'm like, great. I have a load in there. ⁓ and I have the thing that alerts you on your phone. But yeah, it's one of those weeks. ⁓ yeah, I get it. So would you okay, would you recommend teaching to people? Like if people are like, okay, would you recommend reselling to people? Yes. Okay, and to be fair, listen, I miss teaching. I miss helping kids. I miss actually teaching the subject. Like I I love building relationships with my kids. Like I would write all my kids letters at the end of the year and like ⁓ I would have kids come up to me several years later and be like, I still I carry it with me. And like that meant the most to me. And ⁓ seeing kids grow and a lot of kids, they do not have supports at home and you get a like make them feel like they're a good person, if that makes sense. I miss all of that. I do not miss all the political stuff. 'Cause like teaching shouldn't be political, but like as far as like the administration and people like to feel superior to other people and that happens a lot in teaching. I don't miss any of that. Yeah. So like even though I miss like having colleagues and you know, feeling like you're a part of something too, I reselling is so much better. So we're trying to make that community for resellers right now because it is so lonely and it's like I wanna have coworkers, but I like don't wanna have people that I have to work with and rely on because group projects are the worst. Yes. So that's like kind of the thought here. And we need that. I know. I know I'm thinking like thinking about your situation and it's like you're just going from like one extreme to another, like one extreme being like you are making such an impact in these kids' lives and you're really like in it with other people to something that is very like just you and very individual. Could you do something where you like teach reselling or entrepreneurship to kids or like history of fashion or something? Like there's gotta be some way where it's like That would be cool. Cause I've been talking to somebody else about this is like how can we kind of give back to kids and like teach kids how to do this? Cause imagine if some of those kids that you taught who or like me, I grew up really poor. So like growing up, like being able to generate my own income, I had a job, but like if you could do it from home. Or, you know, like from school or something like that. I just feel like it's it's something that could make such an impact in a kid's life as they're yeah. No, that's so true. I just don't know how to do like the logistics. Well, I think that's too like why I post TikTok videos now because am I helping kids? No, but I'm helping like other people. You might be, you don't know. Yeah. That's true. That's true. Yeah, you might be. And also it is like it's free. And one thing about reselling is it's fairly accessible for most people, you know. It is something that even if you don't have a lot of money, you can start like slowly. I know I always told my brother he's about to graduate, but from college. But I he's so much younger than me. I used to be like, you could do this from your dorm room. Like you literally could. If you wanted to make an extra 500 bucks a month for your ramen noodles, like you could do this from your dorm room because it is like it he already loves thrift thrifting. So I'm like, if you just pick up a couple things, sell them on Depop. ⁓ yeah, he should. And I love that. I know. One of the top Deepop sellers was selling jeans out of his dorm and he's the top 10 in the world. He didn't end up graduating because he had like one credit short or something like that. I gotta find him. I'll send you guys his link. But that's crazy. You look and his whole dorm room is just filled with jeans from the bins, just like completely filled. And he top 10 in the world and he's like still going to school. And then I forget what happened. Yeah. Maybe he finished it by now. Like maybe he was gonna take a summer class or something. I can't remember what it was. But Yeah. But you really can as long as you like have a hard hard work ethic. Yeah. As long as you're self-motivated. Yeah. Yeah. And reselling I really think is like something that can be learned. Like it's it isn't something you really don't have to have any prior knowledge. Like it's you can learn everything. Yeah. And so there are so many free resources too. I mean like so many free videos, like ⁓ people just like willing to tell you things and willing to help, which is ⁓ yeah, really nice. I never would have started if it wasn't for TikTok. I don't know how I somehow ended up on the reseller side of TikTok four and a half years ago. But I'm like I do I wouldn't I didn't even really know it was a thing that people were doing. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think you would have? Did you start reselling by TikTok or did you just start on YouTube? Like I started seeing Mogi Brath's ⁓ videos, like I've said. Yeah, she's like an OG. Like how did I get on that side of I don't know? Because I never worked 15 or anything. Maybe it's because her name's Morgan. Maybe it's because she's also in Portland. I don't know. But like it worked. ⁓ and so like I saw and I really liked her from for like I don't think she's posted anymore, but like her business perspective. Like she very much looked at it like a business. Yeah. Yeah. Instead of like a hobby. You're like the third person who's brought up that person. I have never used YouTube. My husband doesn't use TikTok and I don't use YouTube, but I love YouTube. ⁓ I I think I'm always watching, sorry. I'm always watching Jack Valentine. ⁓ I love them and I Ryan, his partner's name is Ryan. They're just a hoot. And then I really love Frizzy's Finds too. I follow her on TikTok. She follows me on TikTok. ⁓ but they are more on YouTube, her and her husband. They're in North Carolina. They're great. I'm gonna have to look up, I'm gonna have to look up all of these. Yeah, because I don't I don't know any of this stuff. I don't How I ended up well, cause both of you ended up on my FYP and helped me get started in real selling. It was like you two, Julie, Angela, when she was reselling ⁓ Jack and Prairie Dust for jeans. Cause that was something I never so I didn't know about decoding like vintage Levi's or anything like that. And I just started somehow ended up there. And it's fascinating. And Morgan, I don't know if you like looking at like Levi's or the gene history, but it's Fascinating because the tag the tags tell you so much about something. ⁓ and I know there's like the fashion guild that you can look up vintage tags on, but I I don't learn like that. Like I can't learn through like words like that. Yeah. And they do have images, but like so the videos of like, okay, if you look at it, now I can decode them because I'm like, ⁓ this is from 2023. This is from, you know, 1971 or what and it's so fascinating to me because the way that TikTok is, I don't know, it's just made so many things accessible. And you can just learn because so many is something different. And I literally use that as a search engine. Yeah. I I've like I'm like, I'm gonna go to TikTok before I go to Google nice. If I need like a tutorial on something, yes. Yep. Like I'm trying to learn how to do a French twist for my sister in law's wedding and I've like watching all the Yeah, you're like, I'm gonna learn this. I just had a lady do we went to this little French market in Marin the other day and I got the hair pins and she like taught me how to do it's so easy and fast and you just have to like not care how it looks basically. And now that's how I do my hair care. Yeah, you're like, it's going to look perfect. I'm like, how do you but like it's weird, it looks really good no matter what is the thing. Yeah. It's almost like the more effortless, the better it looks. Yeah. Yes, that that is what I mean. Not like that it doesn't look good, but I was like, how. What the heck are we doing with these big claw clips over in the States? Yeah. Like we're No, I love like the little niche because I have the hairpin and goes do do do do do. This is a very I don't know if you guys know this movie, but the wedding date with ⁓ is it like Deborah Massane? ⁓ yeah. Okay. Right? Okay. So she the first time she sees her family at the cocktail party, she has this amazing Y2K French twist and it has very different rhinestone. That's what I want to wedding. Okay, that's different. That's that's like polished and pretty. How do you even how do you even think of that? I was watching the movie for the 85th time in my life because it's my favorite. And I was like, you know what? And so then it searched it. This is how I also find the things I find on Deep, Poshmark, whatever, is random searches. I was looking for a full length rhinestone hair comb, which by the way, no one has. So I'm like, okay, I'll make it myself. But then I whenever I start searching like that, other things will come up that I'm like, ⁓ okay, so I could resell this or I want this. Yeah. No, it's so good. Yeah. Etsy's a good place to you and you don't sell on Etsy, right? No. I've heard horror stories about Really? What have you heard? I want to hear more. Well just how they treat sellers and like the fee structure and stuff, but I've never really looked into it, so I Never looked into the fee structure. I think it's only like 12%. I don't think it's like that high. Etsy, I really like Investier. And I know a lot of people don't like either of those, but you can cross list with Venue on both of those. And for vintage stuff on Etsy, I have made like that. My average order value is like the highest on the platform. I want to say it's it's over $100 on that platform. ⁓ because people are and it's most mostly international buyers. ⁓ eBay, especially when eBay is slow, that is a really good engine into that. Yeah. And I've heard good things about Bestier too. And I should try that too. Theirs is tougher because they their payout system is crazy. Like it's like 45 days till you get paid. So I think that's why a lot of people don't like it, is because like I just sold my neighbor's fur jacket on there and we sold it for like our payout was like $18, almost $1,900. And It's been forty days and we just got it last night. And so it's like very stressful because they also have that much time to return to return it. Yeah. And so I think it scares off a lot of people. Yeah. But if your stuff is as described, so I'm a little bit more selective with what I put on Bestia and X. Yeah. ⁓ Like just like the best of the best. But I I'll send you the info to get signed up as a pro because you just have to have like an LLC or escort, which knowing that you have an escort or knowing that you have a CPA, you have one of those. Yeah. And so I think like especially with your knowledge of like vintage and luxury. Yeah. Because vestiaire is a lot of luxury. Yes. It was recommended to me by my Gucci sales guy because he buys off there a lot. ⁓ really? He's like even You should. So that's where he buys everything. Yes. He likes to kind of ⁓ collect vintage dolce and gabbana and Roberto Cavalli. ⁓ I have the coolest Roberto Cavalli suede jacket. Such cool Okay. ⁓ okay. So something also we were talking offline about is a lot of race sellers. We are, and this isn't everyone, right? There are plenty of people who do this as their full-time gig and they pay all of their bills this way. But the three of us do not. We make enough. To pay our bills, right? But we don't do that and it's not something that gets talked about enough, I don't think. So yeah, I just wanted to acknowledge it because like sometimes when you see people posting videos online, you don't know what their support system behind the scenes looks like. Yeah. And it's like, how are they buying, you know, these luxury items for themselves? Morgan and I were talking about I love her shopping halls, like her personal ones. You have Such good taste. Thank you. No, it's amazing. ⁓ see, she agrees. Yeah. Hazel agrees. Hazel's like, yeah, yeah, you do. ⁓ but I I just wanted to acknowledge that because even though we are all making good reselling income, we do have a spouse who is responsible for. And I will say we live in a house that is half the cost to a third of the cost of what all of our friends paid. ⁓ because we wanted to I am so scared of being horror that I like that we can be a bit more flexible. Yeah. Yeah. And I I always try to like ⁓ I've gotten a few comments on like this of like how do you afford that? And I'm like, it's ⁓ I always try to be clear because I feel like some people are not genuine and try to make it seem like it's all reselling. But ⁓ I always try to say like, no, like my husband works in big tech. Like that's why like Can you be successful? And do I think you could be successful following like what I say and doing what I do? Yes, absolutely. Like 'cause like as a I'm I make a way more than I did as a teacher. I could survive, but like this does not come from all of Right. Like you guys travel a lot, you shop luxury a lot. Yes. I think I and I think that's a good distinction to make, you know, just to be transparent. Yes. Yeah. And I mean and even for that, I mean, he doesn't make like he makes a lot of money. by anyone's standard. So even this would like a regular job income, I don't think would like support the lifestyle either. Yeah. Yeah. And that's like I feel like people need to hear that too. Cause yeah it's they I don't want people to think that, ⁓ I'm selling like something that's not attainable for them. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think that's so true. And I do think that's like kind of the scary part of social media is So many people are like, Well, if I want this life, let's do it exactly like this. But it's like we all have so many other factors that go into doing what we do. I always tell ⁓ like joke with my husband and I'm like, I pay for all the fun stuff and you pay for all the boring stuff. Like he's paying for all the yucky bills that I don't want to touch and then I gotta like take my kids to Disneyland because I have money, but that's only because he's paying for all the you know, boring stuff. So Yep. And it allows freedom too to be Yeah. There are a lot more choices that way. How was Disney, by the way? It was so good. It was so good. I was laughing. I was telling some of my friends beforehand, like, we're not Disney people. Like I I've gone twice. I went like when I was younger, I went once when I was in high school, once when I was in middle school. But I'm not I'm not a Disney person. And then we go and I'm like, but it's so magical. So maybe we are Disney people. Like watching my kid, it's just the best thing. There were like multiple times I'm like tearing up and I'm just like, it really is like you're in this little bubble. And everything is magical and y there's like so much whimsy and like I feel like you I was just like so patient and so chill and it was it was so fun. Yeah, I think trip. I've heard this summer this year that Disney is not very busy right now. So people I know who have gone, they're like, Yeah, the wait times were not that bad. There aren't that many people, which I guess is. Which was not true. No. No, so I had heard that. ⁓ there were a lot of people saying people were like, Well, maybe it's because of like the World Cup. And stuff like people are spending their money that way. ⁓ and I think like historically looking at the like the crowd levels, July, like the end of June and July had been so, so dead comparatively. And then we go, it's 90 F degrees and wait times are like eighty minutes. It was just like a nightmare. But we did like the lightning lane thing, so we didn't wait in line. We waited in line for the new Star Wars ride. I mean new ish. It's like the newer ride for like sixty minutes. And that was the only ride we waited in line for. We just used lightning lanes for everything else. And I would maybe we waited for 10, 15 minutes. So it wasn't bad, but it was so damn hot. I will never go in July again. I'm like, I don't know. I mean, we did that because we had to do it after my oldest was done with baseball, but he starts football next week. So we had two and a half weeks to get in a little family trip. But I'm like, I will pull them out of school next time we decide to go. I am not going in July. I'm not doing that to myself. I was so sick of being hot. And there's like really nowhere to escape. It was just stifling. And it was humid. So but yeah, it was it was Wait, were you in Florida? Or no, we were in California. It was humid. It was so humid. I don't know what it was, but like the humidity was crazy. And everyone was like, it doesn't make sense because it's not normally like that humid. But it was like really, really humid when we were there. So I mean it is one of those. We're coming from Idaho too, which is like a desert. No, you're good. I ⁓ my god. Idaho. I bet it's one of those things though that like is more magical with kids. Because I feel like that can't be said of everything. But when you take kids there, you feel their wonder, you feel their joy. No, exactly. Yeah, it was. It was like I was just looking at my one of my daughters is obsessed with Stitch. And just in the summer, they have this little Stitch dance party, and Stitch like pulled her to dance with him. And I was just like, ⁓ my gosh, it's so sweet. It was so sweet. It was just like so many little things. And it is. It's like I 100%. think going as a parent is way better than just like going for yourself because it really was just it was so fun. And again, I don't know that we're we're not Disney people in the sense that we'll go like multiple times a year or anything like that. But it was so fun. So so fun. Yeah, there are some Disney people who go like weekly. Yeah like live down there and go weekly. ⁓ I have a friend who they go multiple times to Disneyland every year and then they go to Disney World, I think at least once a year, and they don't live anywhere near that. So they're flying. Dang. Yeah. And I'm honestly also on like the money. Like the money. Disneyland is expensive. And I know Disney World is like even way more expensive. Really? ⁓ yeah. Cause you have multiple parks, so you're buying like I didn't know. Yeah. A lot of Well like even Disney cruises are really expensive. Cause I know a lot of people that do that. Mm-hmm. We did Disney with my son, but we didn't bring a friend. We brought grandma and it was not fun. ⁓ because an eighty year old and a five year old had very different interests and needs and are both just as stubborn as one another. and so that I ne I was like, I'm not going to any Disney thing without a friend next time because and and I think it's different too if the kid is not a super Disney fan. So we don't watch a lot of Disney. There's the superheroes, but it's not as much. And so like for him, yeah, it's cool to see Minnie and Mickey, ⁓ but he doesn't really Yeah. You know, we took Disney away a couple of years ago when he what was he watching? He was watching something, it was so annoying and I couldn't stand it. So we just can't stand it. Nope. We're yeah. We're like, I can't so and I think that ruined the Disney story. So next time we'll go. And Morgan, you said that you want kids. Yeah. Yeah. Is that something that like multiple? Yeah, hopefully. So I'm thirty three right now. Okay. I had to think about it. So you're young. You're you're young. Thank you for saying that. Cause like both my husband and I are like, ⁓ gotta gotta get on it. And I have a really weird, like, mixed friend group where many of my friends were also teachers and they had kids younger. ⁓ and so they all have kids. And then none of my husband's friends have kids. Just because they're in tech. The first cousin. So my my husband has four other cousins and they're all like siblings, they're all like the same age. The first one, the oldest, just had a baby. And so I feel both behind and also not. Yeah. Yeah. But I think a big part of it for me was my health. Like the Lyme disease. I gained like over a hundred pounds. And so I knew I wanted to like lose all that. I wanted to be healthy before I even tried conceiving. I I have a lot of feelings about kids, which is a whole nother podcast. So I have another one I have another podcast about the kids' situation. Yeah. So You gain over a hundred pounds. That's hard. Did you have to get on like, are you Lyme disease free or ⁓ does it go into remission? What does it do? ⁓ I did I had it s for seven years. I went undiagnosed. I finally got it. ⁓ and I'm the unluckiest person in the world, let me tell you this, because they do two tests. They do one where it's like chronic, like the Lyme disease has b ⁓ you've had the infection for a long time and they test one that's like a short term. And I flagged for both, which means I had recently been in the last like I think five hours reinfected. With disease. I was like, ⁓ my God. That's crazy. ⁓ it's just wild. And like getting diagnosed was super hard. I got antidepressants before I got diagnosed with that, which is a whole Wait, what were your symptoms? extreme fatigue, extreme joint pain. Like it hurt to walk, it hurt to move. ⁓ swelling. And you can really see it. Like my husband was saying, ⁓ so I still have like probably 15 pounds to go before I'm back at like my normal healthy adult weight. I was and my husband's like, you look even better now than when we first started dating. And he didn't mean it in like a mean way. But if you look at my photos from then, and I like I said, I was 15 pounds less, but I was just like swollen. Swollen. I had nobody noticed, but I had like the is it called palsy where you have like the asymmetric to your face. And it's like, yeah, looking back now, it's really obvious. Like I was sick. So crazy. So do you have to feel like antibiotics? Yes. Two rounds of antibiotics. That was the crazy. And then it went away. Yes, it goes away. ⁓ but you can still have some symptoms that persist for a while. They say about six months. I still will have joint pain, but I also have I developed hypothyroidism during that time. ⁓ and so that can be a symptom of that as well. So yeah. Yeah, I was just thinking that 'cause I'm like a lot of those symptoms. were my symptoms when I was like undiagnosed before I got diagnosed with celiac disease. Is it was like soy pain, just insane fatigue. And like I had all of that too. And I was like just so stiff. My hands and my arms, my knees always hurt. And so it sucks when it is like a lot of your symptoms can be a lot of different things too. Yeah. Because it takes a long time to get diagnosed. And it takes a toll on your mental health too. Always smelling like crap. ⁓ I was like, yeah, the most anxious and sad I had ever been when I it took me an a year and a half to get diagnosed. with celiac disease, which is absurd because it's not even a hard test. No. But my doctor just didn't think that's what it was. So it is, but it does it was like so, so bad on my mental health. Can you even have rice? Yeah, I can have rice. You can have rice because I know some is like Yeah. ⁓ wow. Yeah. So that is another thing about reselling too is like with having like health issues, it's really hard to work a nine to five. And I feel like many women, even like our cycles, like you're not At 100% all of the time. Yeah. But nine to fives, especially like teaching or whatever, require that. not to say reselling is not hard on the body because I definitely underestimated what it would do to my back. Yeah. All the bending over. I need to get like a better setup for like laying out my stuff. But yeah, the health, the health stuff, because I know a lot of resellers who have like health issues. I think it's great for people with chronic illness because really if you Like again, if you are self motivated, when you need to take breaks, you can take breaks. And it's not gonna be detrimental to your business in any way. Yeah. Or if you need to like work hard for one day to take off three, you can do that. Like on your good days. I love that. Yeah. I think that's such a good point. That is one thing I need to get better about is I turned my closets on no sale for a couple of days, like two days this week, because I was like just overwhelmed. I was like, I just need time. And I think that is hard. Do you do either of you do like planned vacations as a reseller? Especially having chronic health issues. Like, do you like turn your closets off ever? Only when I actually like travel travel. Travel travel. Cause if I'm like not feeling the best, okay, I'll just leave the stuff on. I'll ship and do nothing else. Yeah. Yeah. I don't. I've never I didn't even this was a little bit of a gamble. I didn't even put anything on vacation mode when we were at Disney. And I know it was I it it went fine. I like so I mean it's a little different for me because I'm not selling like twenty things a day or anything like that. And I stopped listing for like a week before. So I knew my sales were already gonna be slower. And so I was like, what I really eBay was like my main worry. I was like, if I sell something on my first day or two, that's when it's gonna be like a little bit sticky. But it worked out. It was fine. I just generated the label halfway through and then I shipped it the same day I got home and it worked out. It was fine. But it was like a bit of a gamble for sure. Yeah, yeah. That makes sense. But I mean, I've never taken this is my first time I've taken like a full I took almost two weeks off. My first time in four years that I covered on that. Yeah. You should take more time off. No, I should. After honestly, I was like, I don't know why. I feel like it for me like taking time off of whatnot feels scarier than just like taking time off of like not listing. So I mean, there's definitely been pockets of time where I haven't listed, but I haven't taken any time off of whatnot since I started. So yeah. Is that like an algorithm thing that like TikTok trained you? Like you have to be consistent, you can't take time. I think for me it's not even like an algorithm thing. I think it's more that like I rely on that money, you know. And so it feels like if I'm like if that's thousands of dollars a week that I'm not making from one show, you know. So I feel like for me it's more like mentally like I don't want to give up that money. Yeah. ⁓ so then you're like, but it was so nice. It was so I literally felt so free last especially the week. So I I had a show Monday. And then we left on vacation the next Monday. So I had a whole week before we left on vacation. So it was like two full weeks. ⁓ and that week before we left on vacation, I like deep cleaned my house. I was like scrubbing my walls, and I'm like, I don't have time for this. I don't have time to think about any of that crap, you know, between my kids and whatnot and reselling and TikTok, like I don't have time. And I just felt like, wow, this is what a normal mom feels like. I can take my kids to the pool in the middle of the day. I think we went and saw movie, you know. It was like, It was really nice. I need to do that more often. Yeah. I think that's a good reminder to like take time off. I need to take time off. I need to Yeah, it's good. It's good for you. Yeah. And now I'm like so happy to be back at it. Like I'm just like I feel so motivated. My first whatnot show back is tonight. Like I'm soaked. So it really is. It's so good for you. That's always what I forget too 'cause like I'm kind of in burnout mode right now. Yeah. I just don't want to do anything. And I'm like, I should probably just like take a couple of days to do nothing. And I'll be better. You're gonna feel better. Yeah. And they do push you higher in the algorithm, at least Poshmark does. I have noticed when you turn your closet off and you come back. I have noticed they push you, especially if you list things as soon as you come back, like have like a few things drafted and list. I make way more sales when I turn off and then come back. Interesting. Yeah. I did it last year and last July I turned it off for a couple of days and this time too. I've sold a couple of pieces just in turning it back on. And so yeah, I think that's another thing. Actually I I know we don't have We are pastime, but what is a piece of advice you would give a reseller? It doesn't have to be a newbie, but somebody that something like we're what, the end of July. So what's something that you would advise you'd give yourself or another reseller? As far as like what time of year we're in right now or just like Yeah, just now. Yeah, right now. Ooh. Get your false self listed ASAP. Ooh. Yeah. That's a good one. July it's pastime. And I feel like that's one of the things that all of us, it doesn't matter if you're new or old, we make a mistake on, is I do I'm a list all year reseller. But I feel like a lot of people are like, ⁓ I'm not gonna, you know, list my fall sweaters until like September when it starts to get colder because that's what makes logical sense. But people do not shop logically. And so like they're gonna be like looking for their they'll see ads from stores of like, ⁓ look at this cute like fall sweater, and they're like, maybe I can get it cheaper somewhere else and you know. go off. So I mean I know I'm already I'm like not buying stuff for summer anymore. I'm over summer. If I'm buying something I'm gonna be able to wear it this fall. Yeah. That's so interesting. Well I'm like last year was July and like the first week of August I sold out of all my Halloween stuff. That's so interesting. I haven't listed any of my Halloween okay so I need to get my Halloween. I sold snow pants last week or two weeks ago, right before I left on vacation. Snow pants. I'm like what? Who's buying snow pants? Crazy interesting I just I went to Old Navy the other day just because I forgot a swimsuit for my son's swim lesson and ⁓ they are everything is discounted like sixty, ninety percent off all of their summer stuff. And because they're about to put out fall. So if anyone is looking for summer stuff to buy, because I it so the way it works in Bay Area is we get our summer really late. Like it was raining last week, like sprinkling last week, and we j or the week before and we just got summer like last week. And so for us, it's just started and ours goes through about Halloween. And then is that's when our fall starts. So our seasons are off a bit. And so for me, even thinking about a sweater right now, I'm like, no way. Like I'll buy them to sell. But I'm like, I literally just bought swimsuits last week. Yeah. You're like, we're just barely for this season. Yeah, that's So it's sounds good. It's a good thing to point out too though, is that like we often think about like in terms of what is like our experiences. So like right here in Idaho, it's ninety degrees. But we're gonna hit fall really quick. Like we always get a pretty early fall. But that's not how everyone in the country is shopping. Like everyone has a little bit different seasons, it's different temperatures. So if we only think about like our experience, we're probably leaving a lot of money on the table because and also like especially international buyers too. Yeah, exactly. Like people are all over the place. Or people are traveling. Yeah. You know, on Etsy, there's a lot of Australian shoppers. ⁓ really. I ship a lot to Australia. And I don't know if the fee structure is different than eBay because I would think they would shop on eBay, but they're they're actually on Etsy. Australia is my number one international country on eBay. Interesting. So crazy. So then you'd probably do really well on Etsy because yeah, ⁓ for whatever reason, Australia tends to be Australia and the UK. And there's two categories. I don't know if this holds true for you, but it's vintage clothing, like Y two K specific or designer. Wow. Nothing else. I haven't looked into that. Mine is mine is a lot of vintage, but American vintage, definitely. yeah, I it's so interesting. Yeah, I think that is the thing. Like keep in mind every everything is different. Yeah, I did get Halloween stuff. So thank you, Morgan. I needed that motivation. Yeah, because I got some at the bins and I need to go list it. Amanda, what about you? Advice for July or August. okay. This is actually a little piece of advice. If you are a sell through rate person, which I am, I like live. Buy cell through rate. And I if you sell vintage or things like that, maybe you don't as much. But yeah, where if you're checking cell-through rate, yeah, I'm like, if you are checking cell through rate on eBay, you are only going to see the last 90 days. So if you're checking stuff for fall and winter, you are not going to see accurate comps for because it's going to be summer months. So you have to kind of do some more digging in those instances, especially if you know you have something really, really good, because you're probably not going to see those exact comps. They weren't selling. In the summer. And if they were, they probably weren't selling for as much as they are worth. ⁓ in just a filter. ⁓ yeah. That would be because I've I've done that and I've been like, wait, why why isn't the selling? I know it does sell. And then it will sell as soon as I list it, but like people aren't selling it in the summer months or things like that. So yeah, that is that's great advice. Okay. I've just got two really good pieces of it next year. I go to buy check sell through rate. I guess I'm gonna build off of what you all said. I don't know what I'm doing. So I'm not an expert here. I just started last year. So like I don't know what I'm doing. But I would say, based on what I just heard from the two of you, I would say get your fall and winter stuff into an accessible place. ⁓ to start pulling because I don't have that. yeah, I I, for me right now, what I'm gonna be doing is kind of going through my stuff to see what I should sell in a threat up premium bag. I'm doing my first premium bag. That's awesome. And so I want to see because people are still buying summer stuff. So I'm gonna kind of try to see what I can clear out to make space for easy access for my fall stuff. ⁓ and I'm gonna go get my Halloween stuff listed. but for me personally, I would say if you have not done your taxes yet. ⁓ the extension is due in the US in a couple of weeks. So focus on that, I would say. just to get that done. And that is more for myself to remind me that is important. You got this. ⁓ I mean, I took a huge hit last year because I invested so much money in inventory. So I think I'm less worried because I'm not gonna have to pay taxes. But it is going to help our personal taxes, which are due just a couple weeks after that. Yeah. So ⁓ but We are going to Morgan, I saw you post are you going to eBay open in Dallas in September? Ninety nine pr nine percent sure, yes. ⁓ my gosh. Okay, that makes me so happy. Yeah. We'll be there. I think Ruth Ramsey, ⁓ the one who sold one point five million on Poshmark, she lives in Dallas, so she'll hopefully be there. ⁓ I think Julie from Casa Chic, I gotta reach out to her, but cool. I know she gets a lot of eBay events, so mm hmm. Yeah. No it'd be a Becca Thrifts. Yes. Like a thrifts will be there. Morgan, we need a list of people that you want to invite. Cause all our algorithms are different. I like yeah. I was like, She's coach. Coach, vintage coach seller. ⁓ okay. ⁓ why am I not on her ⁓ I don't know. You would love her. She's amazing. Yeah, that's weird. Okay. ⁓ yeah. No, I actually made a post. I was like, who's going? And people are like, nobody commented. I'm like, ⁓ god. No one's going, apparently. No one's going, even the people that live there, they're like, I'm not going. I don't know what eBay open is, but we were just looking for something in Dallas because it's very central and this fall and that is what we found. I was just looking at the ⁓ the sessions though and they look very informative. Like I was like actually this will be. Where did you find the sessions? I was looking for that. I just clicked it. Open sessions. ⁓ Okay. I was looking on their website. But they don't have I was looking like if they had announced like the hotel or convention center or wherever they're s they're holding it and they haven't. They haven't. Okay, good. I didn't miss that because I was like, if we could just do it at their location. That's what I was hoping. Because like so I have been to I was like, this is very niche, but an avid district director for school. I don't know if you know what the avid program is, but ⁓ so I had to go to a conference in Dallas at and it was really fun. So it's a great place to like have never I've never been to Dallas. So I know. So I'm excited. Doing great shopping. Yeah. Neem and Marcus. ⁓ I was gonna say go to the stockyards. And Neiman Marcus. And Neiman Marcus. We don't have shopping in Idaho, so we will be hitting up Stock. I know. I know. I should have everyone out here at some point to just like shop my store do we need to. Because like just get get rid of it because I I have a place to stay. I'm good. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, thank you, Morgan, for being here. I'm sure we will do a follow-up because I You guys got me thinking about holidays. I think we should do ⁓ like a holiday. We're also gonna start doing monthly live podcast sessions so people can ask their questions live and feature like a different guest. So we can't. I actually had someone on Instagram yesterday be like, I wish I could just ask you questions. And I was like, No, you can soon. Okay. Soon. We gotta get our stuff together. We gotta get the admin side of it, which will probably just be like, ⁓ we're doing it this Sunday. We're gonna do it every Sunday morning or once a month on Sunday mornings. ⁓ Nine to ten Pacific. I don't know what time that is the rest of the time because yeah, I can't do math. So but three hours. Thank you so much for being here. And yeah, thank you. We appreciate it. Thank you. Yeah, this should be up in a couple of weeks, but we'll let you know. ⁓ that sounds good when it's going up. Okay, thank you.