Latest / DEEP INSIGHT / Why Europe's far right is turning away from Trump
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Far-right parties in Europe are shifting away from Donald Trump's
- 0:03Speaker 1: MAGA movement. Why? And how? And what does it all mean?
- 0:06Speaker 1: It used to be all this.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Far-right parties across Europe used to show.
- 0:11Speaker 1: Off their good relations with Donald.
- 0:13Speaker 3: Trump and his MAGA movement.
- 0:15Speaker 4: They even borrowed their slogan.
- 0:23Speaker 1: It made them look important, part of a global movement,
- 0:26Speaker 1: and the thinking was it might boost their election results.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Trump wanted this too. The White House openly said so
- 0:31Speaker 1: in its 2025 national security strategy. But halfway into Trump's
- 0:34Speaker 1: second term, this transatlantic far-right friendship seems to be cooling.
- 0:38Speaker 4: He's different.
- 0:40Speaker 1: He's a threat to Europe.
- 0:41Speaker 5: He broke an elementary election promise, not to interfere in
- 0:45Speaker 5: other states.
- 0:46Speaker 4: Donald Trump's declarations are totally fabricated.
- 0:50Speaker 1: As we approach several key European elections, let's take a
- 0:54Speaker 1: closer look at what's been going on and what could
- 0:56Speaker 1: be next for the far right in Germany, France and Italy.
- 1:00Speaker 1: But first, let's go to Hungary, where one of the
- 1:02Speaker 1: leading figures of the European far right suffered a shock
- 1:05Speaker 1: election defeat, despite massive backing from MAGA. This was Budapest
- 1:09Speaker 1: on the night of April 12, 2026. Viktor Orbán admits
- 1:12Speaker 1: what had seemed impossible. He had lost the election. Orbán
- 1:15Speaker 1: had been prime minister of Hungary for 16 years straight.
- 1:18Speaker 1: a hero of far-right forces in Europe and beyond. Starkly
- 1:22Speaker 1: limiting immigration, LGBTQ rights and the media, bending the state
- 1:25Speaker 1: to his will while railing against international institutions. Trump was
- 1:29Speaker 1: a huge fan. And when Orban looked like he needed
- 1:34Speaker 1: help to turn around poor poll showing ahead of the
- 1:36Speaker 1: April 2026 election, MAGA stepped in. The president promised economic
- 1:41Speaker 1: support should Orban win, and Vice President JD Vance even
- 1:43Speaker 1: visited Budapest just days before the election. Viktor Orban is
- 1:46Speaker 1: going to win the next election in Hungary. He did not.
- 1:49Speaker 1: It wasn't even close. The MAGA magic hadn't worked. Other
- 1:53Speaker 1: far-right parties across Europe saw what happened. And as they
- 1:56Speaker 1: prepare for their next elections, they're reconsidering whether it makes
- 1:59Speaker 1: sense to be so close with Donald Trump and MAGA.
- 2:02Speaker 1: In Germany, the far-right AFD scored its best-ever election result
- 2:06Speaker 1: in September. It was only a state election and a
- 2:08Speaker 1: small one at that. But Saxony-Anhalt was a huge victory,
- 2:11Speaker 1: topping months of steady polling gains. Trump and Elon Musk
- 2:15Speaker 1: had not figured strongly in the AFD's campaigning, but celebrated
- 2:18Speaker 1: the result.
- 2:19Speaker 4: The AFD stands for anti-migration, anti-asylum and anti-diversity politics.
- 2:26Speaker 1: Even more.
- 2:27Speaker 4: They are standing for a homogeneous society, a predominantly white society,
- 2:33Speaker 4: a predominantly Christian society.
- 2:36Speaker 1: My colleague Hans Pfeiffer has been covering the AFD since 2013,
- 2:39Speaker 1: when it was founded as an anti-euro grouping. He says
- 2:42Speaker 1: the AFD saw parallels with MAGA from the start.
- 2:45Speaker 4: There's this nice German word of Schadenfreude. There was this
- 2:48Speaker 4: big Schadenfreude, how he was damaging the liberal system. They
- 2:55Speaker 4: both want to destroy an established system. The MAGA movement
- 2:59Speaker 4: wants to swipe out all liberals out of the political system.
- 3:03Speaker 4: AFD always claims that they want to destroy their political opponents.
- 3:07Speaker 1: Elon Musk stepped in to boost MAGA support at the
- 3:10Speaker 1: AFD's party convention ahead of the 2025 federal election. Trump
- 3:13Speaker 1: had just become president for a second time. Musk was
- 3:16Speaker 1: involved in the government and they wanted to help their
- 3:18Speaker 1: friends in Germany. The AFD doubled its vote share to
- 3:21Speaker 1: come second in 2025 and was happy to show where
- 3:24Speaker 1: its loyalties lay in the US.
- 3:26Speaker 2: We think it's good that a new thinking has begun
- 3:29Speaker 2: in Washington. And that's what Donald Trump deserves our respect for.
- 3:34Speaker 5: Donald Trump keeps his promises.
- 3:36Speaker 1: But he doesn't. And his foreign policy, seizing Venezuela's president,
- 3:40Speaker 1: threatening to annex Greenland, imposing tariffs around the world and
- 3:44Speaker 1: starting a war with Iran, did not sit well with
- 3:46Speaker 1: the AFD.
- 3:47Speaker 5: He broke an elementary promise, namely not to interfere in
- 3:49Speaker 5: other states.
- 3:58Speaker 4: What they shared with Donald Trump was his first approach
- 4:02Speaker 4: to cut solidarity on a worldwide level, cutting funding for
- 4:06Speaker 4: everything what is outside the U.S. The longer his presidency,
- 4:10Speaker 4: the more he was starting international conflicts, the more the
- 4:14Speaker 4: German far right was distancing from Donald Trump.
- 4:17Speaker 1: This chart shows how AFD supporters have lost confidence in Trump.
- 4:21Speaker 1: And Germans overall never had much. Those are voters the
- 4:24Speaker 1: AfD needs if it wants to continue along the path
- 4:26Speaker 1: to power in Germany.
- 4:27Speaker 4: They use everything to get stronger in Germany. And the
- 4:31Speaker 4: moment they sense that Donald Trump is not an argument
- 4:34Speaker 4: to vote for the AfD, they stop campaigning with his name.
- 4:37Speaker 1: But what happens off the stage and outside of speeches
- 4:40Speaker 1: is a different story. Because the AfD still has much
- 4:42Speaker 1: to gain from MAGA.
- 4:44Speaker 4: You can see that there are frequent gatherings and frequent
- 4:47Speaker 4: trips of German members of parliament to the U.S., to
- 4:50Speaker 4: tighten these connections. The MAGA movement has a lot of
- 4:54Speaker 4: money and a lot of power. The MAGA movement has
- 4:57Speaker 4: not only big, big, big donators, but it also has
- 5:00Speaker 4: tech billionaires behind them.
- 5:02Speaker 1: Elon Musk may not himself be popular in Germany, but
- 5:05Speaker 1: having his X algorithm on your side is hugely valuable.
- 5:08Speaker 1: And as the September election in Saxony-Anhalt showed, MAGA is
- 5:11Speaker 1: happy when the AFD is winning. And when the AFD
- 5:13Speaker 1: is winning, it can afford to accept that praise. Across
- 5:17Speaker 1: the border in France, the far-right are hoping to finally
- 5:19Speaker 1: move into government. And they are in with a chance
- 5:22Speaker 1: to win the 2027 presidential election, with this woman at
- 5:25Speaker 1: the helm.
- 5:26Speaker 5: Marine Le Pen is the presidential candidate of the French far-right.
- 5:31Speaker 5: That party is known mainly for its anti-immigration stance, its
- 5:37Speaker 5: position to radical Islam.
- 5:39Speaker 1: My colleague Lisa Louie is the W's correspondent in Paris.
- 5:43Speaker 1: She's watched Marine Le Pen's attempts to transform the national
- 5:45Speaker 1: rally's image. from an openly racist and anti-Semitic party to
- 5:49Speaker 1: one that appeals to a broader voter base, even changing
- 5:52Speaker 1: the party's name. Ahead of the 2027 presidential elections, Le
- 5:56Speaker 1: Pen is leading the polls. Last time, she got more
- 5:59Speaker 1: than 41% of the votes, but lost to Emmanuel Macron
- 6:01Speaker 1: in the second round after most other parties urged to
- 6:04Speaker 1: vote against her.
- 6:06Speaker 5: She always says that the establishment wants to prevent her
- 6:09Speaker 5: from reaching power, that also the media kind of trying
- 6:14Speaker 5: to not represent her or misrepresent her ideas to make
- 6:19Speaker 5: sure that she doesn't win the presidential elections.
- 6:22Speaker 1: If you've ever heard Donald Trump talk about elections, this
- 6:24Speaker 1: approach may sound familiar. And so it's no surprise that
- 6:27Speaker 1: Marine Le Pen was excited when he first got elected
- 6:29Speaker 1: back in 2016. He was proof that radical anti-immigration, anti-establishment
- 6:33Speaker 1: rhetoric could work.
- 6:35Speaker 5: Trump has made possible what was presented as completely impossible.
- 6:40Speaker 1: So it's a sign of hope. But like in Germany,
- 6:42Speaker 1: Trump's increasingly erratic and radical foreign policy decisions have caused
- 6:46Speaker 1: unease on the French far right. Trump's repeated threats to
- 6:49Speaker 1: annex Greenland prompted this from Marine Le Pen's closest ally
- 6:52Speaker 1: and president of her party, Jordan Bardella.
- 6:54Speaker 4: The president of the United.
- 6:55Speaker 5: States places the European Union before a clear choice.
- 6:58Speaker 1: Accepting a vassalization under the cover of transatlantic partnerships or
- 7:03Speaker 1: becoming sovereign actors again. Trump's foreign policies have pushed up
- 7:06Speaker 1: prices in France, most acutely rising oil prices caused by
- 7:10Speaker 1: his war against Iran and the tariffs he imposed on
- 7:12Speaker 1: EU exports. In June 2026, Trump even threatened a 100%
- 7:17Speaker 1: tariff on French wines to pressure Paris to abolish attacks
- 7:20Speaker 1: affecting US tech companies.
- 7:22Speaker 5: The idea of make America great again in a certain
- 7:26Speaker 5: way goes directly against the idea of of make France
- 7:30Speaker 5: great again, because to make France great again, according to
- 7:34Speaker 5: the national rally, there would be some element of protectionism,
- 7:39Speaker 5: of being independent, not depending on anybody, not being put
- 7:44Speaker 5: down by anybody. And Donald Trump is trying to do
- 7:47Speaker 5: exactly that.
- 7:48Speaker 1: This goes down especially badly in France, thanks to the
- 7:51Speaker 1: French role within Europe and the country's self-image. France is
- 7:54Speaker 1: a key player in EU politics. the second largest country
- 7:57Speaker 1: by population and economy and the only nuclear power on
- 8:00Speaker 1: the continent. And it has a tradition of keeping the
- 8:03Speaker 1: US at arm's length, going back all the way to
- 8:05Speaker 1: President Charles de Gaulle, the defining figure of post-war French politics.
- 8:10Speaker 1: Here we can see how even Le Pen's supporters view
- 8:12Speaker 1: Trump less favorably by now. His continued unpredictability has made
- 8:16Speaker 1: him too despite remaining ideological similarities, at least in the
- 8:22Speaker 1: short term.
- 8:23Speaker 5: She's likely to maintain a certain distance to the MAGA movement.
- 8:26Speaker 5: If she doesn't, that could mean that she might scare
- 8:30Speaker 5: off some of the voters, more centrist, more moderate voters,
- 8:33Speaker 5: that she needs to win the upcoming elections. She will use, though,
- 8:38Speaker 5: some of the rhetoric, almost certainly, that Donald Trump is using.
- 8:43Speaker 5: It's just not very popular to be too close to him.
- 8:48Speaker 1: Trump's popularity has also taken a hit in Italy in
- 8:51Speaker 1: his second term. Even among supporters of far-right Prime Minister
- 8:54Speaker 1: Giorgio Meloni, it declined significantly. So as Meloni is looking
- 8:58Speaker 1: to get re-elected in 2027, she too has turned away
- 9:01Speaker 1: from Trump. Their relationship used to be strong.
- 9:04Speaker 3: At the beginning, she seemed to really want to use
- 9:08Speaker 3: the ideological and political connection to Donald Trump to turn
- 9:12Speaker 3: herself into an important bridge between the European.
- 9:16Speaker 6: Countries and the U.S.
- 9:18Speaker 1: Giulia Sardelli is a political correspondent with DW. She keeps
- 9:22Speaker 1: a close eye on Italian politics.
- 9:23Speaker 6: Once Trump came.
- 9:24Speaker 2: Back into power, that's when their bilateral relationship started to shine.
- 9:29Speaker 1: Maloney was often seen as Europe's Trump whisperer.
- 9:31Speaker 4: She's a beautiful young woman.
- 9:33Speaker 1: And even as Trump's foreign policy became messier, she stayed
- 9:36Speaker 1: pretty friendly. But Trump threatening Europe with tariffs over Greenland
- 9:40Speaker 1: hit up against her limits.
- 9:44Speaker 2: This is where we start sort of seeing a change
- 9:46Speaker 2: in attitude coming from Meloni, who's starting to realize this
- 9:50Speaker 2: balance with Trump is going to be increasingly hard to strike.
- 9:53Speaker 2: And then it sort of started to unravel from there.
- 9:56Speaker 1: Trump's Iran war added to the tension. Not only was
- 9:59Speaker 1: Italy against the idea, so was this man. After Pope
- 10:02Speaker 1: Leo called the US attacks on Iranian civilian infrastructure unacceptable,
- 10:06Speaker 1: Donald Trump accused him of wanting Iran to have nuclear
- 10:09Speaker 1: weapons and endangering Catholics.
- 10:11Speaker 2: Something that Giorgia Meloni decided she couldn't really let slide
- 10:15Speaker 2: and she couldn't tolerate. The Pope himself is still seen
- 10:19Speaker 2: as a very important moral authority figure in the country
- 10:23Speaker 2: and she defended the Pope and strongly criticized Donald Trump
- 10:27Speaker 2: for his words against Pope Leo.
- 10:30Speaker 1: A few months later, in June 2026, the Maloney-Trump drama
- 10:33Speaker 1: erupted for everyone to see. When he claimed she had
- 10:36Speaker 1: begged him for a selfie at a G7 summit, Maloney
- 10:39Speaker 1: responded with a slapdown.
- 10:40Speaker 2: Donald Trump's declarations are totally fabricated.
- 10:43Speaker 4: They are, frankly, a lie. I don't know why the
- 10:46Speaker 4: President of the United States behaves like this with his allies.
- 10:50Speaker 4: Italy and I never implore.
- 10:54Speaker 1: Public but personal. And there's another significant factor that shapes
- 10:57Speaker 1: how Maloney behaves towards Trump. Unlike her far-right counterparts in
- 11:01Speaker 1: Germany and France, she's already in office and wants to
- 11:04Speaker 1: get re-elected. As the longest-serving prime minister of post-war Italy,
- 11:08Speaker 1: she stands for relative stability and wants to be seen
- 11:11Speaker 1: as a reliable ally abroad.
- 11:12Speaker 6: She understood very quickly that, especially for Italy as a country,
- 11:16Speaker 6: a country that has very high public debt, that had
- 11:19Speaker 6: issues with the financial markets in the past, that it
- 11:22Speaker 6: was very important that she show that she was not
- 11:26Speaker 6: anti-establishment or trying to radically change things in Italy when
- 11:30Speaker 6: it comes to the European Union, NATO, the transatlantic relationship.
- 11:35Speaker 1: She might want to take a step back from Trump
- 11:37Speaker 1: and MAGA, but the US remains a key export market
- 11:40Speaker 1: for Italy, as well as its main military protector. Italian
- 11:44Speaker 1: elections are coming up next year, putting Maloney under pressure.
- 11:47Speaker 6: It's hard to tell.
- 11:49Speaker 2: How that relationship might evolve, also because it is hard
- 11:52Speaker 2: to gauge what exactly Donald Trump plans to do.
- 11:55Speaker 1: We've seen how Trump's volatile foreign policy in his second
- 11:57Speaker 1: term so far has prompted three major European far-right parties
- 12:01Speaker 1: to loosen their ties with the MAGA movement. They do
- 12:03Speaker 1: not want to be too closely associated with the costs
- 12:05Speaker 1: and the chaos America First Politics has produced. That's partly
- 12:09Speaker 1: for ideological reasons, but also because they can read the room.
- 12:12Speaker 1: Their voters don't like it. But this cooling of relations
- 12:15Speaker 1: should not be treated as a breakup. Far-right parties in
- 12:18Speaker 1: Europe and the US still see eye to eye on
- 12:20Speaker 1: many issues, and Trump's network and power might be too
- 12:23Speaker 1: useful for European parties to turn down.