Latest / Brian Thomas / The "Smither-vent" - Episode 155 - The Lindsay Clancy juror and racism
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- 0:04Speaker 1: 721-555-KRCD Talk Station. It's Monday. It means it's time for
- 0:07Speaker 1: Christopher Smitherman, former vice mayor of the city of Cincinnati,
- 0:10Speaker 1: venting his spleen in the segment we always call the
- 0:13Speaker 1: Smith event. Christopher, welcome back, my friend. Always love having
- 0:15Speaker 1: you on the program.
- 0:17Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for having me on, Brian. I really appreciate it.
- 0:20Speaker 2: You know, I usually don't comment on national cases, national things,
- 0:26Speaker 2: but I'm going to touch on one this morning that
- 0:29Speaker 2: caught my attention, and that's in this Lindsay trial. where
- 0:33Speaker 2: you have a white woman who killed her three children, Corey.
- 0:39Speaker 3: Who was five, Dawson, who was three, and.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Kaylin, who was eight months old.
- 0:48Speaker 3: So she killed all three of her children.
- 0:50Speaker 2: While her husband was out and about. And so now
- 0:55Speaker 2: we have this trial and it ended in a hung jury, 11-1. Now,
- 1:00Speaker 2: the one person who held out People didn't know what
- 1:04Speaker 2: the person's race was until recently. And so this person
- 1:08Speaker 2: is African-American, African-American male, and an African and a male Republican.
- 1:15Speaker 2: And so now all of this is kind of pouring out,
- 1:18Speaker 2: and people are like, how dare you be the holdout, da-da-da-da-da.
- 1:23Speaker 2: And in this case, he's indicating that the other 11
- 1:27Speaker 2: jurors walked in and said, not criminal responsible, period, out
- 1:31Speaker 2: of the gate. And he's like, what are you talking about?
- 1:34Speaker 2: Like all the evidence that we've heard and you guys
- 1:37Speaker 2: say not criminally responsible. But this is the frustration that
- 1:40Speaker 2: I have because my speculation is the other 11 are Democrats,
- 1:45Speaker 2: are liberal, and he's not. And he's sitting there saying
- 1:49Speaker 2: somebody should be held accountable for the murder of these
- 1:52Speaker 2: three kids. Right now, you're all you're saying she's she
- 1:55Speaker 2: has postpartum. I know nothing about that. that she psychologically
- 2:00Speaker 2: didn't know what she was doing, mental illness, all of that.
- 2:04Speaker 2: At the end of the day, there were three young children,
- 2:08Speaker 2: I'm a father of five, you're a father of two,
- 2:11Speaker 2: that were killed. And I believe that this juror was
- 2:15Speaker 2: saying not being criminally responsible was not the right direction.
- 2:19Speaker 2: But it's just amazing to me, amazing how they are
- 2:22Speaker 2: just basically saying you don't have a mind of your own.
- 2:25Speaker 2: You can't think differently than us. How dare you have
- 2:29Speaker 2: a different perspective? And I'm sharing with you, Brian Thomas,
- 2:32Speaker 2: this is the craziness within the Democratic Party and how
- 2:36Speaker 2: they approach black Americans across this country. Most black Americans,
- 2:40Speaker 2: as I talk about this right now, don't even know
- 2:43Speaker 2: anything about Michael. They don't know anything about Michael Desronville.
- 2:47Speaker 2: They don't know that he's a 48-year-old African-American guy who
- 2:51Speaker 2: stood up for what he thought was the right thing
- 2:53Speaker 2: to do. And by the way, that was his right.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Well, of course it is because he did not have
- 2:58Speaker 1: reasonable doubt. She admitted to killing her kids. There was
- 3:01Speaker 1: no question that she's the person responsible for the death.
- 3:04Speaker 1: The question is, at the time she did it, did
- 3:06Speaker 1: she know right from wrong? Postpartum depression, I guess she
- 3:09Speaker 1: was so, oh, I don't know, psychologically distraught that she
- 3:12Speaker 1: thought it was okay to kill her kids and didn't
- 3:13Speaker 1: think it was wrong. Well, he didn't buy into that argument.
- 3:16Speaker 1: I do not have reasonable doubt she killed her kids
- 3:19Speaker 1: and she knew what she was doing. That's what he concluded.
- 3:21Speaker 1: The rest of them said, well, you know what? It
- 3:23Speaker 1: seems to me to be, well, at least it's reasonable
- 3:25Speaker 1: to think, because of what the testimony was, that she was, well,
- 3:28Speaker 1: out of her blanking mind when she killed her kids.
- 3:31Speaker 1: There's a division. Honestly, Christopher, I don't know how this
- 3:34Speaker 1: has anything to do with race. I really don't.
- 3:37Speaker 2: But they're making it about it. Why does this black
- 3:40Speaker 2: male have to hide? Why is he in hiding somewhere
- 3:44Speaker 2: in our country?
- 3:45Speaker 1: See, I would argue any, you would be hiding, I
- 3:48Speaker 1: would be hiding. A woman who held out and said no,
- 3:51Speaker 1: she killed her kids and she knew what she was
- 3:52Speaker 1: doing at the time and I have no doubt in
- 3:54Speaker 1: my mind that was the case. She too, I imagine,
- 3:56Speaker 1: might be doxxed or accused or something. I just don't
- 4:00Speaker 1: understand it, Christopher. I really don't. You're entitled to say no.
- 4:04Speaker 1: You're entitled to say yes. This is your right as
- 4:06Speaker 1: a juror. You absorb the evidence as long as you're
- 4:08Speaker 1: not biased and and using something that's untoward in your
- 4:11Speaker 1: deliberative process. He listened to the expert testimony. He said, nope, nope,
- 4:15Speaker 1: it wasn't that. She killed him and knew it.
- 4:18Speaker 2: What I'm trying to share with you, my brother, what
- 4:23Speaker 2: I'm trying to share with you is that these white
- 4:26Speaker 2: jurors were not ready for this black male to stand
- 4:32Speaker 2: up to them and tell them, I disagree with you.
- 4:36Speaker 2: How dare you? They're the ones making it about race.
- 4:39Speaker 2: They're the ones that are making it about he's a
- 4:43Speaker 2: Republican or that he's conservative. They're the ones that are
- 4:47Speaker 2: doing all of that crap. I wouldn't know that he was...
- 4:50Speaker 2: a Republican or that he was black or had conservative values.
- 4:53Speaker 2: I don't even know what that means anymore. I assume
- 4:55Speaker 2: that means that this guy believes in family. He probably
- 4:57Speaker 2: believes in the Second Amendment. He probably believes in the
- 5:00Speaker 2: First Amendment. He probably loves his country. He probably loves
- 5:02Speaker 2: the flag. He probably loves the military. And those things
- 5:05Speaker 2: make you conservative today. The bottom line is he did
- 5:09Speaker 2: not believe what the defense put before him, and he
- 5:15Speaker 2: stood up to these jurors. I'm just sharing with you,
- 5:17Speaker 2: I'm amazed about how they're pushing back on this guy,
- 5:21Speaker 2: and now they're coming out, putting all of his business,
- 5:24Speaker 2: and did he vote for Trump? Didn't he vote for Trump?
- 5:27Speaker 2: I mean, all of this is coming out now. And
- 5:30Speaker 2: I'm sharing with you, this is what the Democrats do,
- 5:33Speaker 2: Brian Thomas. You cannot be black and American and have
- 5:38Speaker 2: a different perspective than the Democratic Party without them saying
- 5:42Speaker 2: something crazy like this about you.
- 5:45Speaker 1: I'll concede all that. And you know what? This discussion
- 5:49Speaker 1: back and forth, my perception and your understanding is Or
- 5:53Speaker 1: exactly that. Mine is a perception because I haven't read
- 5:56Speaker 1: any of the damn articles about it. I know he's
- 5:59Speaker 1: a black guy because his pictures plastered all over paper
- 6:02Speaker 1: on the Internet. I know the subject matter of the
- 6:04Speaker 1: story because I've been able to glean it from headlines.
- 6:07Speaker 1: But to me, it's one more of thousands and thousands
- 6:12Speaker 1: of criminal cases involving murder, loss of life that are
- 6:14Speaker 1: pending in this country that no one gives a crap
- 6:18Speaker 1: about paying attention to. And somehow this one has been
- 6:20Speaker 1: elevated to the attention of the hearts and minds of
- 6:22Speaker 1: all Americans. Look, right here in Hamilton County, we've got
- 6:25Speaker 1: a guy who's been charged with killing his 23-day-old baby girl.
- 6:31Speaker 1: Now let me ask you a question. It's a rhetorical one.
- 6:33Speaker 1: Do you think tomorrow, next week, down the road, that
- 6:36Speaker 1: every newspaper online will be talking about that particular case?
- 6:40Speaker 1: I doubt it.
- 6:40Speaker 2: No. I know. But what you won't have is you
- 6:45Speaker 2: might not have this 11-1 deal. No, of course not. Right?
- 6:50Speaker 2: Where these white jurors, Brian, just weren't ready and didn't
- 6:55Speaker 2: understand that they were not able to push this guy around.
- 6:58Speaker 2: He stood up to them from the beginning and said,
- 7:01Speaker 2: I want to see the evidence. I'm concerned about it.
- 7:04Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, they're the ones. I'm not
- 7:06Speaker 2: making it about race. There are a lot of people
- 7:08Speaker 2: that aren't making it about race. But now they are
- 7:11Speaker 2: talking about his political persuasion. They're saying he's a conservative
- 7:17Speaker 2: and we think he voted for Trump. I hear you.
- 7:19Speaker 1: And you know what? Me hearing it from you for
- 7:22Speaker 1: the first time, because I haven't read any place else
- 7:24Speaker 1: that that's become an issue, it sounds bat crap crazy.
- 7:29Speaker 1: It sounds stupid. It sounds foolish as an argument or
- 7:32Speaker 1: something to even utter out loud. That's why I'm in
- 7:35Speaker 1: a state of disbelief over that it's even happening. and
- 7:37Speaker 1: that people will buy into it and parrot it and
- 7:39Speaker 1: talk about the color of his skin or his political
- 7:41Speaker 1: affiliation when all this had to do was weighing the
- 7:44Speaker 1: evidence that was presented to them?
- 7:47Speaker 2: It's stupid.
- 7:48Speaker 1: It's crazy. So I'm conceding your point, but I'm conceding
- 7:51Speaker 1: my ignorance on the whole subject matter.
- 7:54Speaker 2: And I just want more black Americans to be able
- 7:57Speaker 2: to stand up and say, I am going to vote
- 8:01Speaker 2: my interest. I can be independent from my political party.
- 8:07Speaker 2: Because I'm sharing with you, I don't know of any
- 8:09Speaker 2: other race of people that are so connected to a party,
- 8:14Speaker 2: no matter what their platforms are, no matter whether they're
- 8:17Speaker 2: voting against their interests or not. I'm saying this is
- 8:20Speaker 2: an illustration, 11-1. One black juror says, I have a
- 8:24Speaker 2: different perspective, and the man is in hiding, and now
- 8:28Speaker 2: they're talking about his political persuasion, or he is a Republican,
- 8:33Speaker 2: and now they're saying, well, this guy voted for Trump.
- 8:36Speaker 2: They're trying to destroy this guy's reputation so he can't
- 8:39Speaker 2: work anywhere, he can't live anywhere.
- 8:42Speaker 3: We're way out of time.
- 8:43Speaker 1: I'll give you the point, Christopher. It's just that people
- 8:46Speaker 1: who would listen to that and make that conclusion are really,
- 8:50Speaker 1: really stupid. 729 right now, 55K or CD Talk Station.
- 8:54Speaker 1: Get in touch with USA Insulation. They're still running this. 733,
- 8:59Speaker 1: 55K or CD Talk Station. Brian Thomas for Christopher Smith.
- 9:01Speaker 1: I've been doing that Smith event. Christopher, you got it, brother.
- 9:05Speaker 2: Hey, brother, look, I heard your interview last week with
- 9:10Speaker 2: Vivek Ramaswamy.
- 9:11Speaker 3: It was a really great interview, and I want.
- 9:14Speaker 2: To congratulate both of you on the interview. You know,
- 9:19Speaker 2: I think about and I've been watching a lot of
- 9:22Speaker 2: information that David Pepper has been putting out, and it
- 9:27Speaker 2: looks like he's in this class warfare situation. attack. So,
- 9:32Speaker 2: you know, things like, you know, this guy is rich,
- 9:35Speaker 2: you know, he's disconnected from you. He's something other than you.
- 9:40Speaker 2: This is what I'm getting from David Pepper, who is
- 9:43Speaker 2: second on the ticket. He's running for Lieutenant Governor. And
- 9:47Speaker 2: I just want to kind of talk a little bit
- 9:49Speaker 2: about David Pepper so that everybody kind of has an understanding. First,
- 9:54Speaker 2: I worked with David Pepper when I was a member
- 9:56Speaker 2: of city council, so I know him. So this is something...
- 10:00Speaker 2: that I don't know. I worked with him a number
- 10:02Speaker 2: of years. I was on the campaign trail. He's running
- 10:06Speaker 2: against me in a field race. But David went to
- 10:11Speaker 2: Summit Country Day. So Vivek Ramaswamy went to St. X.
- 10:17Speaker 2: And David Pepper went to Summit Country Day. Both of
- 10:19Speaker 2: these are stellar schools. Both of them are private. And
- 10:23Speaker 2: both of them could be deemed as expensive. Summit Country
- 10:27Speaker 2: Day is probably somewhere between $ 30, 000 and $ 40, 000 a year
- 10:30Speaker 2: to go to Summit Country Day.
- 10:32Speaker 3: So that's where David Pepper went.
- 10:34Speaker 2: David then went to Yale. OK, he then went to
- 10:37Speaker 2: Yale and served, went there, did his undergrad at Yale,
- 10:42Speaker 2: did his graduate work at Yale. OK, so and I'm
- 10:46Speaker 2: saying I'm not saying anything bad about any of that.
- 10:50Speaker 2: What just kills me about Democrats is they keep trying
- 10:53Speaker 2: to present themselves like they're from the working class, like
- 10:58Speaker 2: he has some extra connection that Vivek Ramaswamy doesn't have.
- 11:02Speaker 2: I don't know what he's talking about. Meaning his money
- 11:08Speaker 2: has had him not in a public school system ever
- 11:12Speaker 2: in his life. He's lived a very high-level life. I
- 11:16Speaker 2: would even say that it's fair to say that his
- 11:19Speaker 2: money was given to him, which I'm not saying is
- 11:22Speaker 2: a bad thing, and Vivek Ramaswamy's money, he earned it.
- 11:26Speaker 1: He did.
- 11:26Speaker 2: This is a businessman who worked hard and has accomplished
- 11:31Speaker 2: things personally. where David Pepper is getting his money through
- 11:36Speaker 2: his family, through his father's successes, and I'm not hating
- 11:40Speaker 2: on that. What frustrates me is he presents himself as
- 11:44Speaker 2: if he's something other than that, meaning this is a very,
- 11:48Speaker 2: very wealthy man, and most likely the reason Amy Atkin.
- 11:52Speaker 3: Put him on the ticket is so that he.
- 11:55Speaker 2: Could raise that money out of California or he could
- 11:58Speaker 2: raise that money out of New York. Or he could
- 12:00Speaker 2: raise that money out of the Ohio Valley, meaning this
- 12:04Speaker 2: is about money. And I just don't understand why David
- 12:07Speaker 2: keeps trying to present himself that he's something other than
- 12:11Speaker 2: a very rich, privileged white male who's been given everything
- 12:17Speaker 2: and every opportunity that the United States and America has
- 12:21Speaker 2: to offer him. And I don't clearly understand why he
- 12:25Speaker 2: seems to not to embrace America. The America that gave
- 12:30Speaker 2: him everything that we have, gave his family and his
- 12:35Speaker 2: father everything that they have. And so don't come into
- 12:39Speaker 2: black America. Don't walk through our neighborhoods and act like
- 12:43Speaker 2: you're somebody that's connecting to us in some different way
- 12:47Speaker 2: that Vivek Ramaswamy can't. You are that guy that lived
- 12:52Speaker 2: that privileged life. I just wanted to say that for
- 12:55Speaker 2: the record.
- 12:55Speaker 1: It's a good point because you know him and you
- 12:57Speaker 1: know his background, and therein lies the challenge. He can
- 12:59Speaker 1: get away with it because people aren't aware of that
- 13:03Speaker 1: level of detail. Hell, they don't even know the three
- 13:05Speaker 1: branches of government, let alone the background of the candidate
- 13:08Speaker 1: that's trying to, you know, wealth redistribute the money out
- 13:10Speaker 1: of the pockets of people who earned it not. We'll
- 13:14Speaker 1: bring Christopher back. I know he's got more pent up
- 13:16Speaker 1: in the Smith event.
- 13:16Speaker 3: 738-55-KRCC.
- 13:16Speaker 1: 741, coming up at 742.55, KRCV Talk Station. Right now,
- 13:25Speaker 1: it's with Christopher Smitherman. Smitherman, Christopher, you have the floor
- 13:28Speaker 1: yet again, my friend. Appreciate you coming on the show.
- 13:32Speaker 2: Thank you so much. So, Lisa Davis, Assistant Chief Lisa Davis,
- 13:36Speaker 2: I served with her when I was on city council,
- 13:41Speaker 2: and she is now the police chief in Austin, Texas.
- 13:44Speaker 2: She's now Chief Lisa Davis. And she's right in the
- 13:48Speaker 2: middle of this person who was in our country illegally,
- 13:52Speaker 2: who was shot in Austin, Texas, where all these riots
- 13:55Speaker 2: and fires are being set. So she's in the middle
- 13:58Speaker 2: of that story. This is a local person who cut
- 14:01Speaker 2: her teeth here in the city of Cincinnati, served, and
- 14:04Speaker 2: then was hired in Austin, Texas. And I did a show,
- 14:08Speaker 2: and I said to you, after Labor Day, the Democrats
- 14:12Speaker 2: are searching for their Jerry Maguire moment. Right. And here
- 14:17Speaker 2: you have it for them. Right. Look for them to
- 14:19Speaker 2: try to organize and tell everybody again. Ice is bad.
- 14:24Speaker 2: They don't even know the facts of what happened. They
- 14:26Speaker 2: don't know what the situation is. I don't know what
- 14:28Speaker 2: the facts are, but they're already trying to put their
- 14:31Speaker 2: signs out. They're already setting fires. And this was a person.
- 14:35Speaker 2: who was in the United States of America illegally, which
- 14:41Speaker 2: means they broke the law. Now, there are people, let
- 14:44Speaker 2: me share with you, who every day wake up, they
- 14:47Speaker 2: go to work, they come to the country legally, they're
- 14:49Speaker 2: not breaking laws, they're not gangbanging, they're not walking around
- 14:54Speaker 2: with pistols and guns and all this kind of craziness.
- 14:57Speaker 2: I don't understand the Democratic Party who continues to seem
- 15:01Speaker 2: to gravitate towards people who are criminals, meaning I suspect
- 15:06Speaker 2: that not only was this person in the country illegally.
- 15:09Speaker 3: But they were doing illegal things, right?
- 15:12Speaker 2: And so I don't get why they're setting fires and
- 15:15Speaker 2: acting like the world is coming to an end, and
- 15:17Speaker 2: now they're breaking more laws But this is their moment
- 15:20Speaker 2: to try to line up with Latinos in this country
- 15:25Speaker 2: and try to get them to say, we need you
- 15:27Speaker 2: to vote Democrat in the midterms.
- 15:29Speaker 3: That's what this is all about.
- 15:31Speaker 1: Well, the idea that they are rampaging in the streets
- 15:36Speaker 1: as a consequence of ICE shooting the illegal immigrant, and
- 15:40Speaker 1: you brought up the important point about that. No one
- 15:43Speaker 1: knows what happened yet. The local Austin mayor, Kirk Watson,
- 15:48Speaker 1: not exactly a conservative. Christopher even said it out loud
- 15:50Speaker 1: multiple times. Extremely preliminary, his words. It's extremely preliminary, the
- 15:56Speaker 1: information we have on it. We don't know. He warned
- 15:58Speaker 1: against rushing to conclusions based upon early claims circulating on
- 16:02Speaker 1: TikTok and X and other social media platforms where people
- 16:06Speaker 1: make crap up whole cloth. The city of Austin deserves answers,
- 16:12Speaker 1: said the Austin Police Department. We're going to get those
- 16:14Speaker 1: questions answered, and we'll be as transparent as we can be.
- 16:16Speaker 1: But as of right now, we don't have the facts yet.
- 16:19Speaker 2: So why was Austin, Texas on fire last night? If
- 16:24Speaker 2: all the things that you're saying are true, I don't
- 16:27Speaker 2: understand the riots and the fires last night. And they
- 16:30Speaker 2: also were saying they shot his car up, which we now,
- 16:33Speaker 2: Chief Davis, Lisa Davis there, again, who was the assistant chief,
- 16:38Speaker 2: police chief here in the city of Cincinnati and then
- 16:41Speaker 2: was hired there. She said that that was not true
- 16:44Speaker 2: at a press conference. His car was not riddled with bullets.
- 16:48Speaker 2: The guy, the human being was on foot. But we
- 16:52Speaker 2: don't have enough information to share with you.
- 16:55Speaker 3: It's all preliminary.
- 16:55Speaker 2: But guess what? A council member there, a council member
- 16:59Speaker 2: there in Austin, Texas, said they shot the car up.
- 17:02Speaker 2: And so she had to come out and have a
- 17:04Speaker 2: press conference and simply say the council member has misspoken
- 17:08Speaker 2: and that is not what occurred. I'm just sharing with you,
- 17:12Speaker 2: I constantly see Democrats trying to use these situations in
- 17:18Speaker 2: order to push their political agenda. That's the only reason
- 17:21Speaker 2: I'm talking about it. That's why they're not waiting to
- 17:24Speaker 2: get the information like a logical person. And that's why
- 17:27Speaker 2: they were setting things on fire and throwing things last
- 17:30Speaker 2: night because they don't need the evidence. They're in the
- 17:32Speaker 2: midterm elections, and they're searching for something so that they
- 17:36Speaker 2: can win. That's what this is about. They're not in
- 17:39Speaker 2: search of the truth.
- 17:39Speaker 1: The only way they can win is if people don't
- 17:42Speaker 1: read the widespread reporting on it from everyone, including the
- 17:45Speaker 1: quotes from Lisa Davis, who did say specifically, we are
- 17:49Speaker 1: going to get the answers to the questions answered. We
- 17:51Speaker 1: will be as transparent as possible. As of right now,
- 17:53Speaker 1: we don't know. She's the one that said, I heard
- 17:56Speaker 1: it was a foot pursuit, which, of course, wouldn't mean
- 17:59Speaker 1: that he wasn't in a car which got shot up.
- 18:02Speaker 1: But they don't care because they're so dumb in their
- 18:05Speaker 1: echo chamber, and all they need to do is read
- 18:06Speaker 1: the TikTok post talking about ICE unloading fully automatic weapon
- 18:10Speaker 1: inside the car. It blew them to pieces. It was
- 18:12Speaker 1: like watching a scene from The Godfather. Oh, it must
- 18:14Speaker 1: be true. Let's go riot in the streets.
- 18:17Speaker 2: Right?
- 18:18Speaker 1: Because no one cares. They pull back the veneer of
- 18:21Speaker 1: that nonsense, and they'd say, well, wait a second. There's
- 18:24Speaker 1: been no reporting on that happening. There's been no credible report.
- 18:28Speaker 1: There's no video camera footage released yet. They haven't even
- 18:30Speaker 1: gotten yet. See, but no one cares about that.
- 18:35Speaker 3: Let me share this with you.
- 18:36Speaker 2: This is a assistant chief who I know who is
- 18:40Speaker 2: now Chief Lisa Davis. I want to emphasize those people
- 18:43Speaker 2: who are turning on the radio in Austin, Texas. This
- 18:46Speaker 2: is one of ours. This is a former Cincinnati police
- 18:50Speaker 2: officer who did all her training here. all the way
- 18:52Speaker 2: to assistant chief, and is now the chief there, who
- 18:55Speaker 2: went through the entire collaborative agreement. He was all in
- 18:59Speaker 2: on community-based policing. He is the face of community-based policing
- 19:04Speaker 2: in our city. And there she is standing in front
- 19:07Speaker 2: of podium telling a council member, you're jumping to conclusions.
- 19:11Speaker 2: There was no shoot up of any car, right? So
- 19:15Speaker 2: my point is that this is a woman who is
- 19:18Speaker 2: absolutely vested in things like the collaborative agreement and community-based policing.
- 19:23Speaker 2: And she's even telling people there, hold on, you all
- 19:27Speaker 2: don't have enough information. We don't know what happened. Why
- 19:30Speaker 2: are you out here setting fires and throwing things? We
- 19:33Speaker 2: don't know what happened. But what she doesn't understand, or
- 19:37Speaker 2: maybe she does understand, is that Democrats are searching in Austin, Texas,
- 19:42Speaker 2: to win a Senate seat. They need to flip that
- 19:45Speaker 2: Senate seat, people. This is about setting fires and getting
- 19:49Speaker 2: control of this city. Brian Thomas. They don't care about
- 19:52Speaker 2: the Venezuelans. They're not interested in the fact patterns. They
- 19:55Speaker 2: don't care about that. They care about the election. This
- 19:58Speaker 2: is an Austin, Texas. It is ground zero for a
- 20:01Speaker 2: Senate race that they're trying to flip. They don't want
- 20:04Speaker 2: the Republican to win and they need to gender up
- 20:07Speaker 2: their base. That's what this is about. I shared it
- 20:09Speaker 2: on your show. The Jerry Maguire moment has now come.
- 20:13Speaker 2: I thought it was I love the black man. No,
- 20:16Speaker 2: it's I love the Latino. And I can lie to them.
- 20:19Speaker 2: I can confuse them. I can say whatever I want
- 20:21Speaker 2: to say. The facts don't matter. They do matter.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Well, evil orange man cracked down on immigration. Evil orange
- 20:28Speaker 1: man's the one behind getting rid of the most criminal
- 20:31Speaker 1: element from the illegal community out of our communities. Ergo,
- 20:34Speaker 1: it must be bad. Let's riot in the streets, and
- 20:37Speaker 1: that way we can associate riots, regardless of whether they're
- 20:40Speaker 1: appropriate or not, regardless of whether they're based on real
- 20:42Speaker 1: information or not. Riots equal chaos. Riots because of ICE.
- 20:46Speaker 1: ICE because of orange man. That's the only line you've
- 20:49Speaker 1: got to draw anymore, and that's all they're hanging their
- 20:50Speaker 1: hat on. They don't like Trump. They don't like anything
- 20:53Speaker 1: he does. Ergo... They don't mind violence and destruction of
- 20:56Speaker 1: property if it ultimately helps them achieve their goal of
- 20:58Speaker 1: blaming Trump for literally everything. That's my conclusion.
- 21:03Speaker 2: And they want to control the Senate, meaning they're in
- 21:06Speaker 2: a heated race of a 3% to 4% margin out there.
- 21:10Speaker 2: And that Senate race, which it shouldn't be that close,
- 21:12Speaker 2: but the reality of it is, and this is their
- 21:15Speaker 2: moment now to go out. This is organized. They're not
- 21:19Speaker 2: going to let it go. Chief Lisa Davis can walk
- 21:22Speaker 2: up on the podium in the next week and tell
- 21:24Speaker 2: everybody what the fact patterns were around it. And by
- 21:27Speaker 2: the way, if something bad happened and it was the
- 21:29Speaker 2: wrong decision, I'll be the first to come and say- Hey,
- 21:33Speaker 2: ICE made a bad decision. Absolutely. There's no blank check
- 21:36Speaker 2: out here. But my logic says you don't jump to
- 21:39Speaker 2: those conclusions before the investigation and before we know it.
- 21:43Speaker 2: We haven't even seen the body cam. We don't even know.
- 21:46Speaker 2: But last night they're rioting. They're setting fire. They're throwing
- 21:50Speaker 2: things at ICE agents. I don't understand it. But then
- 21:53Speaker 2: I do because I go, wow, this is about that
- 21:57Speaker 2: Senate election in Austin, Texas. They want to win it.
- 22:01Speaker 2: So they got to gender up the Democrats in that
- 22:03Speaker 2: area to come out. A, they are out here killing
- 22:07Speaker 2: people in the street. That's the message. And that's what
- 22:10Speaker 2: they're going to do.
- 22:11Speaker 3: And they want to, they need fear.
- 22:13Speaker 2: They need fear in the electorate.
- 22:15Speaker 1: Well, of course, give it away from that one and
- 22:19Speaker 1: talk about fear from artificial intelligence, fear from figure it out.
- 22:22Speaker 1: It's always about fear to keep us, oh my God,
- 22:24Speaker 1: cowering and in search of a government solution. Christopher Smith,
- 22:28Speaker 1: I always appreciate Your thoughts and comments here on the podcast.