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Credlin | 12 March · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Heo Greenland live on Sky Ingins Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the show. Peter will be back
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Speaker 2: with you next week. Stee Price in tonight. I'll be
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Speaker 2: back at my normal time tomorrow on Friday. Here's what's
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Speaker 2: coming up though tonight on Kredlin. The war in the
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Speaker 2: Middle East rages on, and the straits of Hormals are
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Speaker 2: not now central to a choke on fuel supplies to
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Speaker 2: the world, including as we now know Australia and it's
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Speaker 2: diesel and its use in agriculture and trucking transport that
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Speaker 2: is being severely affected. No matter what Chris Bowen tells you.
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Speaker 2: I'll be joined by the head of the Victorian Farmers Federation,
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Speaker 2: Red Hosking, and the story is not good still in
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Speaker 2: the Middle East, We'll cross the sky correspondent Sophie Ellsworth
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Speaker 2: in Israel and retired Army Director General Ian Langford on
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Speaker 2: where Donald Trump might go next. Talk to our panel
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Speaker 2: about the ridiculous Timeout magazine decision to decide Melbourne as
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Speaker 2: the best city in the world after an international poll
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Speaker 2: of twe twenty four thousand readers. What a joke Melbourne
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Speaker 2: and its current state is not even in my opinion
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Speaker 2: in the top five cities in Australia, let alone the world,
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Speaker 2: and the fallout from the shock decision by intelligence and
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Speaker 2: Ambassadorial veteran Dennis Richardson to quit his position on the
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Speaker 2: Bondai terror Attack Royal Commission. I'll get Michael Danby's view
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Speaker 2: on that shortly first though. As of yesterday, the Coalition
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Speaker 2: has a brand new leadership team in Angus Taylor and
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Speaker 2: Matt Canavan, who has claimed the leader's role from David
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Speaker 2: Little Proud, who, of course, on Tuesday used the very
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Speaker 2: Australian phrase of being worn out.
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Speaker 3: But I'm bugging, I'm bugging, I have enough.
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Speaker 4: It's time for me to feel normal again.
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Speaker 2: I'm buggering and I've had enough, is what he said.
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Speaker 2: The dynamic now is pretty clear. Canavan, during his recent
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Speaker 2: times on the back bench, has made it very clear
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Speaker 2: his focus is on the impact of net zero and
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Speaker 2: what it's happening on the Australian economy and his support
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Speaker 2: for using the full suite of energy resources we have
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Speaker 2: as a country, including nuclear, and his passion is to
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Speaker 2: supercharge Australia.
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Speaker 5: We need to have more Australian farming, more Australian manufacturing
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Speaker 5: more Australian jobs. We need to have more Australian everything.
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Speaker 5: We need to manifest a hyper Australia here. We need
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Speaker 5: to go hyper Australia for our country.
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Speaker 2: That was his victory speech. The new leader also made
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Speaker 2: it very clear that he and the Nationals in general
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Speaker 2: are in a desperate fight to drag back support from
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Speaker 2: one nation where the natural party of rural Australians is
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Speaker 2: bleeding from people backing Pauline Hanson. You can see the
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Speaker 2: elevation of Canavan is as much about hate halting one
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Speaker 2: nation surge of support as it is about getting rid
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Speaker 2: of a bad labor government, or at least in twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty eight, dragging back some of that massive majority. Canavan
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Speaker 2: not only has Pauline Hanson in his sites, but his
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Speaker 2: old boss and flatmate Barnaby Joyce, who told Sky Today
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Speaker 2: he was up for the fight.
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Speaker 6: I wish Matt Canavan and Darren and Bridget all the best.
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Speaker 6: I think it's an incredibly important for our nation that
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Speaker 6: you play a game in politics on the balls of.
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Speaker 7: Your toes to the best of your ability.
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Speaker 6: My concern is this that at times I believe strongly
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Speaker 6: that Matt myself Pauline and One Nation will all be
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Speaker 6: strongly on the same page.
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Speaker 7: It's just that the coalition won't be.
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Speaker 2: As we said in the Hanson she never takes a
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Speaker 2: backward step in these things and accused the new Nationals
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Speaker 2: leader as being quote part of the woke pylon. She
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Speaker 2: said Canavan joins the likes of the ABC, the Guardian
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Speaker 2: and left wing fact checkers who have started a war
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Speaker 2: against One Nation to try and as Pauline said, tear
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Speaker 2: us down. Well, she's probably right on Matt, and there's
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Speaker 2: no doubt a Canavan Taylor team is stronger than Susan
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Speaker 2: Lee and David Little Proud. But there are still major differences,
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Speaker 2: major differences between the liberal moderates and the views of
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Speaker 2: someone like Matt Canavan. Difference is that the strategists that
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Speaker 2: run Labour's lines in question time and in media interviews
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Speaker 2: and the new team are going to have to get
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Speaker 2: their act together if they're to have any impact on
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Speaker 2: labor and or One Nation. Now, just this week it
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Speaker 2: struck me Treasurer Jim Charmers, who loves using question time
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Speaker 2: to bait the opposition, continuing to make claims on things
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Speaker 2: like Medicare and throwing out the false claim that the
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Speaker 2: Liberals hate it, and what a scrap it.
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Speaker 8: They are the same old liberals peddling their extreme right
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Speaker 8: wing ideology, hacking at wages and hacking our retirement incomes
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Speaker 8: the working people of this country, and now with a
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Speaker 8: shadow Treasurer who wants to dismantled super and privatize Medicare
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Speaker 8: and end work.
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Speaker 7: From home.
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Speaker 2: Dismantled Super, privatized medim I mean, clearly this is all
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Speaker 2: bull but Labor during the last election campaign just kept
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Speaker 2: repeating this untruth, knowing it would stick, when in reality,
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Speaker 2: the stated Liberal policy at the last election was, in
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Speaker 2: regard to Medicare, a pledge to increase funding, invest nine
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Speaker 2: point four billion dollars to support GPS, matching the promise
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Speaker 2: of labor, doubling medical mental health sessions, expanding Medicare urgent
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Speaker 2: care clinics, and maintaining.
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Speaker 3: Bulk billing rates.
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Speaker 2: I mean, compare that with Chalmers claims in Parliament and
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Speaker 2: a gaggle of various labor ministers outside the House. If
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Speaker 2: Taylor and Canavan are actually serious about winning back public support,
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Speaker 2: they have to call out their opponents verbally of their policies,
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Speaker 2: call out the lies. Start with health, then tax then immigration.
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Speaker 2: They could start with today. When Labour's Andrew Charlton bobbed
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Speaker 2: up on Sky News Kieran Gilbert today claim in Canavan's
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Speaker 2: only policy, only policy, was to deny climate change and
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Speaker 2: fund colfied powerstations.
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Speaker 1: This is somebody who wants to subsidize new coalfied power
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Speaker 1: stations in Australia, culfied power stations that are not commercially viable.
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Speaker 1: That this is his one thing, and that one thing
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Speaker 1: would put up energy prices for everyday Australians and that
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Speaker 1: is going to be a hard sell in electorates like Zoe's,
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Speaker 1: where climate change denial, subsidizing coal fired power stations and
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Speaker 1: driving down Australian's wages probably aren't going to go down
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Speaker 1: very well.
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Speaker 3: Well, kennev n order to come out just say that's rubbish.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he might just be the sort of hard
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Speaker 2: ass the opposition actually needs. Cameras bringing your politics for
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Speaker 2: tonight's political Headlines for Scott News political reporter Julia Bradley.
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Speaker 9: Good evening former ASIO boss Dennis Richardson, who was tasked
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Speaker 9: with examining Australia's security agencies after the Bondeye Massacre has
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Speaker 9: abruptly resigned from advising of the anti Semitism Royal Commission,
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Speaker 9: despite being paid more than five thousand dollars per day.
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Speaker 9: The former Defense and Foreign Affairs chief said he felt
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Speaker 9: surplars to requirements once the Albanezy government dropped the Richardson
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Speaker 9: review in favor of a broader probe.
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Speaker 10: My report did not exist in that in that I
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Speaker 10: was doing a review prior to the Royal Commission being announced.
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Speaker 10: Once the Royal Commission was announced, what I was doing
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Speaker 10: was rolled into the Royal Commission. Therefore it became a
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Speaker 10: different animal. If you enjoy a challenge, right, if you
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Speaker 10: enjoy tough jobs, right, it's very difficult to go back
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Speaker 10: to what is essentially a research officer.
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Speaker 11: The Opposition is calling on the Prime Minister to intervene
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Speaker 11: to encourage Richardson to stay.
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Speaker 12: This is a disaster for the credibility of the Royal
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Speaker 12: Commissions and ultimately its findings and recommendations. A massive shadow
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Speaker 12: has been cast over the Royal Commission.
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Speaker 11: Former High Court Judge Virginia Bell will deliver an interim
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Speaker 11: report by April thirteen, and the Energy Minister has announces
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Speaker 11: Australia will utilize dirty of fuel. Over the next sixty days,
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Speaker 11: as the Middle East conflict drives up demand, creating supply issues,
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Speaker 11: Australia's fuel standards will be lowered to enable domestic use
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Speaker 11: of fuel which has a high concentration of sulfur.
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Speaker 13: This will see one hundred million liters of fuel extra
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Speaker 13: flow in Australia a month over that time. This mister
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Speaker 13: Speaker is relevant only to the Ampole refinery, which currently
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Speaker 13: makes fuel for export to countries with lower fuel standards
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Speaker 13: than US.
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Speaker 11: Ampole Australia will redirect supply to areas worst impacted by
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Speaker 11: the shortage, particularly in the regions.
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Speaker 2: Good on you, Julia, Thank you for that. Is there
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Speaker 2: a more annoying person than Chris Bowen? And in the
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Speaker 2: Federal Parliament if there is, I don't know who they are.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's bring in our panel joining me now, Scone,
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Speaker 2: his contributor Carrily Katz and Baras and Spectator writer Terry Barnes.
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Speaker 3: Welcome to you both.
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Speaker 2: Terry, just on what I said at the start there,
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Speaker 2: why do the Liberals in particular, but the Coalition in
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Speaker 2: general allow the Labor Party to keep spouting out untruths
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Speaker 2: about policy? Why don't they come out and say that's
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Speaker 2: not true.
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Speaker 14: I think the Liberal Party especially has this habit of
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Speaker 14: playing nice. You know, politician is no longer a gentleman's game.
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Speaker 14: It's actually win to take call. It's kill or be killed.
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Speaker 7: But if I.
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Speaker 14: Think the Liberals and the Coalition generally historically they just
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Speaker 14: don't like being in opposition.
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Speaker 7: They just don't enjoy it.
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Speaker 14: And certainly, one thing that Tony Abbott showed very successfully
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Speaker 14: when he was leading the opposition is to get in.
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Speaker 7: There, take play down and do it.
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Speaker 14: Just kick kick, but more than the point, just go
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Speaker 14: hard at it, play politics, enjoy the game.
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Speaker 7: They don't enjoy the game anymore.
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Speaker 14: It's so obvious, and I think that's one of the
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Speaker 14: reasons they're done in the polls croly.
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Speaker 2: I mean when they say the Liberal Party or the Coalition,
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Speaker 2: if they get into power, want to scrap medicit. Now
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Speaker 2: clear that's wrong, but the public here and go, oh,
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Speaker 2: you wouldn't want to vote for.
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Speaker 15: Them, and so they've got to get out and attack.
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Speaker 15: But the thing is it's a twenty four hour news cycle.
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Speaker 15: I think that the federal coalition and statewide as well,
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Speaker 15: for the coalitions, they need to get that and harp
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Speaker 15: on that issue until it is stamped out and eradicates
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Speaker 15: anything in people's memory of a mistruth. They need to
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Speaker 15: stick on one point and then to go back at
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Speaker 15: Jim Chalmers and say, you know that is incorrect. Do
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Speaker 15: it and back it up, do it and back it up,
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Speaker 15: and you know what.
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Speaker 7: Then do it again.
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Speaker 2: I don't know whether they're getting bad advice. We'll get
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Speaker 2: to more important global news in the moment, but I
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Speaker 2: couldn't believe it as a Melbournian like you and Terry are.
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Speaker 3: We're all I want to get your reaction.
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Speaker 2: Last night, I'm sitting there watching Sky and it was
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Speaker 2: announced that time Out magazine, which I haven't read since
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Speaker 2: the morning seventies when I was in London trying to
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Speaker 2: find a van to drive around Europe, Melbourne has been
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Speaker 2: crowned the best city in the world for twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 2: Sure about you, Caroly, But in this current state, with
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Speaker 2: the current government, I wouldn't even put it in the
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Speaker 2: top five in Australia.
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Speaker 15: So the thing is, I can only think that time
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Speaker 15: Out has written this more than a year ago, perhaps
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Speaker 15: when Melbourne was supposed to hold the Commonwealth Games. Of
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Speaker 15: course it has left out that Victorian tax players are
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Speaker 15: off the hook for six hundred million dollars. The torch
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Speaker 15: relay isn't even going to come through the state next
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Speaker 15: month because it's so embarrassing. They evidently haven't realized that
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Speaker 15: in the last twelve months we've got the highest crime rate,
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Speaker 15: highest machete attacks, highest dead pothole capitals, emergency services, Levy,
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Speaker 15: fire services, Levy, waste Levy. Then AVNAT also tax the
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Speaker 15: twelve apostles, so visitor fees. We don't know what it's
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Speaker 15: going to be.
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Speaker 7: Is there.
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Speaker 15: I can only think that they've done this thing. However,
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Speaker 15: I don't want to be facetious or cynical.
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Speaker 3: But I do have to say that we do know that.
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Speaker 15: There's been a bit of suspicious activity on the premier's
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Speaker 15: media account in Instagram with lots of bots an amazing
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Speaker 15: fifty four thousand tolerate probable Well, I'm just wondering whether
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Speaker 15: those followers perhaps were somewhere with time and there you.
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Speaker 2: Go twenty four thousand people to it must be all
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Speaker 2: under thirty and they must have done the poll at
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Speaker 2: Melbourne University and then gone around a Monash and then
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Speaker 2: I've gone over to Latrobe and found. You know, all
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Speaker 2: these kids who think Melbourne's fantastic because they can march
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Speaker 2: every Sunday through the streets screaming out death to Israel
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Speaker 2: and from the river to the sea.
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Speaker 14: Bonnie in Fitzroy, I can't really add to what Carroll
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Speaker 14: we was saying except to say that you didn't mention
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Speaker 14: that the CBD has been hollowed out since Cobres. And look,
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Speaker 14: Melbourne is the capital of the state of desperation.
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Speaker 2: I'd go in order, and I'm not being silly, and
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Speaker 2: I've lived in three of these places. I'd go Adelaide one,
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Speaker 2: Sydney two, Hobart three, Brisbane four and then probably Perth.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 15: I couldn't agree more with you.
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Speaker 2: And you can tell that's true because the number of
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Speaker 2: people who are leaving well, you know.
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Speaker 15: During the Australian Open, tennis or the tennis place. Oh
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Speaker 15: I love Melbourne. Melbourne is beautiful, but you know what
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Speaker 15: go thereafter dark? What's the advice? How many machete attacks?
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Speaker 15: What the crime rate? It's shocking do these people at
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Speaker 15: time out not google not google things about a current
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Speaker 15: city With what's going on.
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Speaker 2: Magazine's got no credibility. Terry still on Victoria. A friend
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Speaker 2: of mine told me some time ago, about a year ago,
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Speaker 2: that Martin Peccola was going to be paid a salary
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Speaker 2: to be the chairman of the Grand Prix Corporation. Now
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Speaker 2: that job has been occupied by eminent Victorian to Ron Walker,
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Speaker 2: Paul Little who ran Toll. This is the first time
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Speaker 2: anybody is going to be paid up to sixty thousand
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Speaker 2: dollars a salary to be chairman of a board. That
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Speaker 2: should be an honor. Why just into Alan paying these people?
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Speaker 14: Well, I think there is one reason, Stephen, one reason
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Speaker 14: only that it's inter Allen thinks she's going to lose
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Speaker 14: the election in November and she wants to make sure
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Speaker 14: that her labour mates are well looked after. And when
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Speaker 14: it comes to the Grand Prix. I mean, the only
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Speaker 14: thing that Martin mccul's got going for him is that
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Speaker 14: he is a Carlton supporter.
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Speaker 7: I'll give him that.
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Speaker 14: But but beyond that, I think in terms of those
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Speaker 14: voluntary positions with lots of perks, like the Grand Peg,
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Speaker 14: like the mcg trust with Steve Braxx, I think getting
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Speaker 14: paid twenty thousand dollars just.
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Speaker 7: To turn up for a couple of meetings a.
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Speaker 14: Year but still getting the free tickets to everything. I mean,
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Speaker 14: it's really about it's really about rewarding those who support
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Speaker 14: the government.
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Speaker 3: Look, lay labor does it so much, the opposition.
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Speaker 7: Labor does it so well. They know that having stamped.
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Speaker 2: The institutions, magistrates, judges, universities, chancellors.
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Speaker 14: They know that having your friends in the right places
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Speaker 14: makes the machine work for you, whether it's the and
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Speaker 14: that includes a bureaucracy.
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Speaker 7: Here in Victorious, Steve.
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Speaker 15: Caroly, I just want to say one thing. I can't
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Speaker 15: imagine Ron Walker asking for a handout. But let's go
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Speaker 15: one step further. Many innocent Victorians have lost their lives
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Speaker 15: at the hands of teenage thugs with machetes. Aden Baker
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Speaker 15: twenty two, we saw the Victorian premig senter Alan shedding tears.
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Speaker 15: Here's a novel idea. All these people. Should you be
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Speaker 15: given this salary, donate it back because the family some
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Speaker 15: might some well, whatever the funerals, the victims, the ongoing
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Speaker 15: psychological support. Sara Anand who nearly lost his hand, that
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Speaker 15: you interviewed last year, His life is destroyed. Dr Ash
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Speaker 15: Gordon's dead, Aiden Becker is dead. The Lady, the Sioux Chef,
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Speaker 15: Lady who was there. All these people need support. If
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Speaker 15: these people are going to accept a taxpayer salary, donate
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Speaker 15: it back to the Victorians that need it.
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Speaker 3: The way families named. I mean, I've got regard for
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Speaker 3: Steve Braxa.
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Speaker 2: I mean if you want to have if you're going
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Speaker 2: to have a labor government in Victoria, you want a
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Speaker 2: premier like Steve Brax or like a John Brumby. But
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Speaker 2: I mean Martin Pacooler was part of the Dan Andrews
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Speaker 2: cabinet put the state in the situation.
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Speaker 3: Where it is, that's right.
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Speaker 2: I mean he gets a chairman's box at the f
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Speaker 2: one to invite all legs influences along the race, and
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Speaker 2: I'll make Steve Brax gets to park underneath the MCG
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Speaker 2: and go to every event that there is for free.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it seriously not good.
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Speaker 12: It's moral compass.
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Speaker 7: It's more.
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Speaker 2: In a week when, of course the Herald's under that
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Speaker 2: I write for, it has been running this fantastic cities
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Speaker 2: of articles about what happened around the Conwealth Games fiasco.
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Speaker 2: Today it was about a shooting range down in the
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Speaker 2: La Trobe Valley. But we've had people in Geelong, people
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Speaker 2: in Bendigo, people in Ballarat saying well, everything we have promised,
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Speaker 2: we never got it. The money went straight to Scotland.
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Speaker 2: It's supposed to be on now.
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Speaker 7: But it's lies.
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Speaker 15: I mean, is there anything that this Victorian state government
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Speaker 15: hasn't lied about? Dan Andrews said that he was approached
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Speaker 15: to run the Commonwealth Games. We now know that he
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Speaker 15: begged to run it. We also know that you Senter Allen.
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Speaker 15: Now the Premier was the sidekick, the minister responsible. Everything
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Speaker 15: that is coming out of their mouths seems to be
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Speaker 15: the complete opposite when it's all unveiled and fifty six
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Speaker 15: million dollars so a million dollars for a fifty six
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Speaker 15: second ad that never aired. The wool has been pulled
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Speaker 15: over the Victorian people's eyes. They've got their opportunity in
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Speaker 15: November to do the right thing.
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Speaker 2: Eric, I think that was all about votes in the region,
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Speaker 2: exactly what I was going to say.
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Speaker 14: I mean, basically, this is about the twenty two election
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Speaker 14: getting some bells and whistles out in the regions, particularly
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Speaker 14: marginal seats and Rattan Bendigo. But more the point, they
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Speaker 14: never intended to keep their promises and from what the
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Speaker 14: herald Sons found out, some of Some of the promises
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Speaker 14: themselves are so dodgy, like this stadium Ballarat, which was
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Speaker 14: totally unviable.
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Speaker 7: They go to it.
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Speaker 2: Just quickly before we go. And I think we go
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Speaker 2: too far with these things. As a Jewish racehource owner
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Speaker 2: by the name of Bray Sikolski, now he's going to
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Speaker 2: have his new racing colors de registered by the VC
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Speaker 2: because they incorporate what looks like the Star of David,
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Speaker 2: which is too similar to the Israeli flag. Apparently Victorian
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Speaker 2: racing rule introduced that you can't have social agenda or statements.
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Speaker 2: But I mean, seriously, Caroly, We've had since October seven
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Speaker 2: weekly marches with all sorts of flags and insignias through
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Speaker 2: the streets every.
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Speaker 3: Sunday, exactly.
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Speaker 15: This just smacks of another anti Semitic move towards the
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Speaker 15: Jewish people of Victoria. There are many racing colors. There
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Speaker 15: are some with cross on them. There are Greeks and
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Speaker 15: Italian people with a flavor there people have been able
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Speaker 15: to do colours.
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Speaker 3: There's a racing colors with the Maltese.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, exactly, and there's that as well. I mean, I'm
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Speaker 15: sure don't want to be facetious again. If there are
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Speaker 15: a few watermelons put on the colors or a few
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Speaker 15: inverted red triangles, that'll be given the okay, with it.
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Speaker 7: All the colors of the Palestinian flags.
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Speaker 2: It's a crazy stuff. Terry carely, thank you very much,
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Speaker 2: an your times. Great to see you as usual. Okay,
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Speaker 2: let's head over to the Middle East now, talking about
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Speaker 2: the conflict where Hesbala of course have targeted northern Israel overnight,
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Speaker 2: launching around one hundred missiles. That's been reported armed drones
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Speaker 2: as well. Israel meantime we've seen pictures of this on
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Speaker 2: sky all day to day. Have been bombarding parts of
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Speaker 2: Beirute and repositioned soldiers there in preparation of possible ground campaign.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now from Televiv News Corps Australia Europe correspondent
18:46
Speaker 2: It's Gone News contributor Sophie Ilsworth. Sophie, where are you
18:49
Speaker 2: in Israel at moment?
18:52
Speaker 5: Great to be with you.
18:53
Speaker 11: Steve.
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Speaker 16: Yes, I'm in Tel Aviv today, but I've been all
18:56
Speaker 16: across the country here in the past week, including up
19:00
Speaker 16: northern Israel, and that's where the real threat is with
19:03
Speaker 16: Hesbelah given at borders with Lebanon. Steve and the presence
19:07
Speaker 16: of IDF personnel up there was very very full on.
19:12
Speaker 16: There were hundreds of people I saw up there, huge
19:16
Speaker 16: military force, lots of tanks, lots of vehicles, lots of personnel.
19:21
Speaker 16: And obviously we've had that serious threat overnight here in Israel,
19:25
Speaker 16: and so this is very much alive and well, Steve,
19:28
Speaker 16: and there is no doubt many people in northern Israel
19:31
Speaker 16: are nervous because they had to go to bomb shelters
19:33
Speaker 16: several times last night and have been told to stay
19:36
Speaker 16: close to shelters given the ongoing threat with Hesbelah.
19:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, just after October seven, that part of northern Israel
19:44
Speaker 2: was attacked heavily by Hesbelah. A lot of the people,
19:47
Speaker 2: a lot of the Israelis moved out and left their
19:50
Speaker 2: houses vacant. The houses that survived, I understand a lot
19:54
Speaker 2: of that population. Sophie's gone back and there is a
19:57
Speaker 2: living population in that part of northern Israe.
20:00
Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 11: That's correct.
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Speaker 17: Steve.
20:03
Speaker 16: I was up at the community of Matula right up
20:06
Speaker 16: on the northern border earlier in the week and that
20:10
Speaker 16: was one of the towns that was evacuated and they
20:12
Speaker 16: left there for over twelve months following October seven. You
20:16
Speaker 16: can still see many of the homes and buildings there
20:21
Speaker 16: are badly damaged after the war that happened there during
20:25
Speaker 16: that time, and there is no doubt people there are
20:28
Speaker 16: nervous while they are trying to remain calm, Steve. They
20:31
Speaker 16: are very very close and you can see the border.
20:34
Speaker 16: When I was up there, you can look, you know,
20:36
Speaker 16: just several hundred meters away and you can see the border.
20:39
Speaker 16: You can see the concrete pillars and the wiring of
20:42
Speaker 16: the fence, and you can hear the loud bangs when
20:45
Speaker 16: you're there. So this is very very real when you're
20:48
Speaker 16: up there, and you only have a very short time
20:51
Speaker 16: to get to safety, sometimes less than half a minute.
20:56
Speaker 11: So these people have.
20:57
Speaker 16: To be on hilt and extremely vigilant at all times.
21:02
Speaker 2: So if you've been there now, you know, almost a week.
21:05
Speaker 2: It seems there's some sort of disagreement over when this
21:08
Speaker 2: war with Iran will actually end. Donald Trump has suggested, well,
21:12
Speaker 2: we've won it already. There's reports Israel may want it
21:15
Speaker 2: to go on longer to ensure regime change. What's the
21:19
Speaker 2: mood in Israel? I mean, these things are very hard
21:22
Speaker 2: to judge, I know, because I mean, you know, people
21:25
Speaker 2: have very different views, but do you get the feeling
21:28
Speaker 2: that Israelis in general are still largely supportive of what's happening.
21:35
Speaker 11: Yes, they are.
21:36
Speaker 16: That is definitely the feeling that I get and watching
21:39
Speaker 16: the news and reports here. That is absolutely the feeling
21:44
Speaker 16: on the ground that they must see an end after
21:46
Speaker 16: this war. And they're not giving up just yet, Steve.
21:51
Speaker 16: But they're sick of this. They're sick of going through
21:53
Speaker 16: war after war. I've had people here saying once this
21:56
Speaker 16: war's over, there'll just be another war, and it just
21:59
Speaker 16: goes on and on. So there's no doubt they are
22:02
Speaker 16: tired of this. They're fatigue and right now, Steve, just
22:06
Speaker 16: as ron Ay, I've now got an alert now going
22:10
Speaker 16: off on my device saying we have to go to
22:12
Speaker 16: a bomb shelter. I mean, this is absolutely the case
22:16
Speaker 16: of what's happening here. I've now got to go, Steve,
22:18
Speaker 16: because we've been given that alert. So this is what happens.
22:21
Speaker 16: Suddenly you're talking normally and then you're rush into a
22:24
Speaker 16: bomb shelter.
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Speaker 2: Will you go and do that and you keep yourself safe?
22:28
Speaker 2: Sophie Ellsworth there, I mean I was going to ask,
22:31
Speaker 2: you know, has the number of Iranian missiles dropped off
22:35
Speaker 2: since this war started, but apparently it has not. After
22:39
Speaker 2: the break, Iran escalates its attacks on oil tankers.
22:42
Speaker 3: We'll look at that.
22:43
Speaker 2: Plus Donald Trump now says we've won the war, but
22:46
Speaker 2: is it a war that is really close to being over?
22:53
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Steve Price with your Peter back.
22:55
Speaker 3: Next week. I'm going to talk to the Farmers.
22:56
Speaker 2: Federation shortly because we are getting such a mixed story
23:01
Speaker 2: about the supply of diesel.
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Speaker 10: Now.
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Speaker 2: The government, through Chris Bowen, keeps telling us, oh, well,
23:07
Speaker 2: it's not a supply issue, it's a demand issue. Well
23:11
Speaker 2: try telling that to farmers who've just simply not been
23:15
Speaker 2: able to access their normal supply. And I must say,
23:18
Speaker 2: at two service stations this afternoon I saw diesel at
23:23
Speaker 2: one BP station being sold at two dollars forty nine
23:28
Speaker 2: and at another two dollars thirty nine. I just get
23:31
Speaker 2: the feeling about the fact that perhaps these supply companies
23:37
Speaker 2: are pumping the diesel into metro areas of Australia instead
23:42
Speaker 2: of the regions because they can make so much money
23:44
Speaker 2: out of it. I mean, maybe I'm completely wrong, but
23:46
Speaker 2: it doesn't add up to me. Let's stick in the
23:48
Speaker 2: Middle East though, because concerns really mounting now over the
23:52
Speaker 2: Strait of Hulmus, which is going to make the issue
23:55
Speaker 2: with diesel and petrol even worse. How long global economies
23:59
Speaker 2: can actually hope with a protracted war? Now, Donald Trump
24:02
Speaker 2: was out early this morning. I think he was in
24:04
Speaker 2: maybe Kentucky. I watched on sky this morning his address
24:08
Speaker 2: to followers. It was like one of his election rallies.
24:11
Speaker 2: Here's what he had to say about the length of
24:12
Speaker 2: the war.
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Speaker 3: And we've won. Let me, we've won.
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Speaker 7: You know, you'd never like to say too early you won.
24:19
Speaker 7: We won. We won the best in the first hour
24:21
Speaker 7: it was over.
24:23
Speaker 2: We want that's pretty haunting. Joining me now for analysis
24:26
Speaker 2: Former Army Director General Ian Langford Ian, great to see
24:29
Speaker 2: you again. Thanks for making some time for us. I
24:32
Speaker 2: mean that's just bluster from the president. Surely, all the
24:35
Speaker 2: pictures we see, all the reports we see, I don't
24:38
Speaker 2: know how you could claim that they have won.
24:42
Speaker 17: Thanks Steve, Thanks for having us. I think it's true
24:45
Speaker 17: that the US has certainly declared victory on the opening
24:49
Speaker 17: salvo of this conflict. But this has got a long
24:51
Speaker 17: way to run yet, And whether it be the military
24:55
Speaker 17: context of this activity, whether it be the economic dimensions
24:59
Speaker 17: that are playing out globally in relation to your previous
25:01
Speaker 17: comment around fuel prices, whether it be the second and
25:04
Speaker 17: thought order effects across the region, including the conflict between
25:09
Speaker 17: Israel hesblah. We are at the end of phase one.
25:12
Speaker 17: Phase two will be much more protracted, much more complicated
25:15
Speaker 17: and difficult, And in no way, I think, can anyone
25:18
Speaker 17: claim successfully that this conflict is closer to the end
25:22
Speaker 17: and not the beginning.
25:24
Speaker 2: In every military stratag just in the world would have
25:27
Speaker 2: done work on the Strait of Hormuz. I mean, you
25:30
Speaker 2: only have to fly over it in a commercial aircraft
25:32
Speaker 2: like I did last year, when you go into and
25:35
Speaker 2: out of Dubai to see it's so narrow, there's so
25:38
Speaker 2: many ships there. To jam it up and to mine
25:41
Speaker 2: it and to bomb oil tankers is not that hard
25:45
Speaker 2: a job. This is now the center of this conflict
25:48
Speaker 2: because that's going to have the major impact on global economies.
25:51
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, Donald Trump and the Americans and the
25:54
Speaker 2: Israelis have done a great job on destroying infrastructure in
25:58
Speaker 2: a Ran itself, but this is the trigger point, is
26:02
Speaker 2: am I right?
26:05
Speaker 3: That's right?
26:05
Speaker 17: I mean, the Uranians don't need to close the straight
26:08
Speaker 17: up hull moves. They only need to create enough disruption
26:11
Speaker 17: that international shipping companies and their insurers declare that it
26:16
Speaker 17: is too dangerous for safe passage. So in certain points
26:19
Speaker 17: the straits are about forty kimeters wide. As you know,
26:22
Speaker 17: more than twenty percent of the world's oil is trafficked
26:25
Speaker 17: through that area. The Uranians again have the capacity from
26:29
Speaker 17: land to cause enormous disruption, and even the US Navy
26:32
Speaker 17: is challenged by the task of keeping it open, so
26:36
Speaker 17: their task is to disrupt. They are being successful in
26:39
Speaker 17: that regard. The pain point is now being felt economically
26:43
Speaker 17: around confidence as it relates to energy, and even the
26:45
Speaker 17: alternate pipelines that have been built in Saudi Arabia and
26:49
Speaker 17: UAE that go around Hall Moves if you like, to
26:51
Speaker 17: the South cannot generate the kind of throughput to offset
26:56
Speaker 17: what can't get through the straits at the moment. So
26:58
Speaker 17: again in the content next of a key maritime chokepoint,
27:02
Speaker 17: it is the critical choke point, and despite the efforts
27:05
Speaker 17: of many, including the US, to get off their energy
27:08
Speaker 17: dependence are in and around the Persian Gulf, it still
27:11
Speaker 17: has a significant bearing on how economies work, on how
27:14
Speaker 17: the cost of everything is calculated, and the confidence as
27:17
Speaker 17: it relates to things like economies and inflation and cost
27:20
Speaker 17: of living pressures.
27:21
Speaker 3: As a result, talk to me about the use of drones.
27:26
Speaker 2: I mean, if we go back to even recent conflicts
27:30
Speaker 2: like Iraq and Afghanistan, we weren't sitting around watching unmanned
27:34
Speaker 2: drones really, I mean, it seems to be the way
27:38
Speaker 2: of modern warfare. We've seen those shocking pictures of a
27:41
Speaker 2: couple of Iraqi oil tankers on fire. We've seen you know,
27:45
Speaker 2: combination towers struck in Dubai itself, and they've landed in
27:49
Speaker 2: Abu Dhabi and Bahrain. That's the big change, is it
27:52
Speaker 2: in modern warfare?
27:56
Speaker 17: That's right, And again you mentioned the UAE, So they've
27:59
Speaker 17: been a by over thirteen hundred Shaheed drones since this
28:02
Speaker 17: conflict has began, and by any calculation, that's a significant
28:06
Speaker 17: test for a nation's air defense to be.
28:08
Speaker 3: Able to resist.
28:09
Speaker 17: On top of cruise missiles and ballistic missiles and the
28:12
Speaker 17: other lethal forms of kinetic force that the Iranians have
28:16
Speaker 17: been prosecuting against the GCC states, We've had drones in
28:20
Speaker 17: warfare really since all the way back to the early
28:23
Speaker 17: nineties in't it around Somalia and the US involvement in
28:26
Speaker 17: the former Yugoslavia. But it hasn't been really until the
28:29
Speaker 17: twenty twenty two conflict in Ukraine and obviously most pointedly
28:33
Speaker 17: this week, that we've seen the effect of mass and
28:37
Speaker 17: scale when it comes to cheap drones that can be
28:40
Speaker 17: easily built through sophisticated industrial systems and their capacity to
28:45
Speaker 17: overwhelm air defense systems and create the kind of havoc
28:48
Speaker 17: that used to be only the domain of expensive and
28:51
Speaker 17: exclusive air forces of superpowers. So drones provide the asymmetry
28:55
Speaker 17: for Middle powers like Iran to be able to threaten
28:59
Speaker 17: and can the sword of activities that you've seen across
29:02
Speaker 17: the GC scene across the Middle East in this conflict
29:05
Speaker 17: over the past two weeks. It is a game changer
29:08
Speaker 17: in the sense that it more or less equalizes amongst
29:11
Speaker 17: powers the ability to interdict and interfere in each other's
29:16
Speaker 17: respective sovereign space and correct the kind of carnage that
29:18
Speaker 17: we've seen over the past two weeks.
29:22
Speaker 2: PM's been very very quick to point out that we're
29:26
Speaker 2: not going to get involved in any aggression in the
29:29
Speaker 2: war itself. He has sent that aircraft and its crew
29:34
Speaker 2: into the war zone, and he talks about some defensive
29:38
Speaker 2: missiles being used as well. Talk me through what actually
29:42
Speaker 2: he has sent there and does this argument that we're
29:46
Speaker 2: only being used as defensive assets does that stack up.
29:53
Speaker 11: Well?
29:53
Speaker 17: The urborne early warning, electronic warfare and control aircraft the
29:57
Speaker 17: East seven Alpha that has been sent is world class
30:00
Speaker 17: asset for airspace control, for threat warning and can provide
30:05
Speaker 17: countries in the Golf who are friends of Australia, to
30:08
Speaker 17: include ue and some of those other goal states the
30:11
Speaker 17: kind of battle picture that can mean their air defense
30:13
Speaker 17: systems are better prepared for incomeing shahedrones and for missiles.
30:17
Speaker 17: So with respect to the E seven, that's right, I've
30:20
Speaker 17: never heard of a defensive missile. There is air defense
30:23
Speaker 17: in the context of stopping incoming threats. But as far
30:27
Speaker 17: as the am RAM, which is the kind of missile
30:29
Speaker 17: that has been gifted to UEE to meet their priorities,
30:33
Speaker 17: that sits as part of a fighter aircraft design which
30:36
Speaker 17: is tasked with air combat. So the distinction is not
30:40
Speaker 17: easy to make as it relates to that missile transfer,
30:43
Speaker 17: as it is for the E seven. Regardless, however, we
30:47
Speaker 17: are in a war zone Australia has interests in the golf.
30:50
Speaker 17: We are defending those interests and protecting our own and
30:54
Speaker 17: that requires the use of military power in order to
30:56
Speaker 17: do that. And I contrast that perhaps with other countries,
30:59
Speaker 17: including the UK, that weren't as forthright with protecting their
31:03
Speaker 17: interest in the region in the way that Australia has
31:05
Speaker 17: tried to do with this very limited contribution.
31:09
Speaker 2: I don't want to drag you into the politics, but
31:11
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you know, if you look at
31:14
Speaker 2: it politically, to use that word defensive, you could make
31:18
Speaker 2: the argument that we're gifting them to the UAE, I think,
31:22
Speaker 2: to to buy in particular for them to use as
31:26
Speaker 2: defensive weapons to stop attacks on themselves.
31:31
Speaker 3: That's true.
31:31
Speaker 17: I mean, they are the defending component to this conflict.
31:35
Speaker 17: They're seeking to defend their state and protect their interests.
31:37
Speaker 17: So that's all very true. But these missiles are designed
31:41
Speaker 17: to allow the UAE to enforce air combat, if not
31:45
Speaker 17: air dominance in relation to Iranian threats. So they are
31:48
Speaker 17: designed to shoot down other aircraft and enforce airspace control
31:52
Speaker 17: on the part of the UAE.
31:55
Speaker 2: Great to pick your brainy in aws, thank you very
31:57
Speaker 2: much to catch you soon after the break, Chris Bowen
32:00
Speaker 2: says our regions are feeling the pinch when it comes
32:03
Speaker 2: to fuel supply. If it's ridiculous today, there's not problems
32:07
Speaker 2: with diesel. You just have to read about any farmer
32:10
Speaker 2: who's now run out. I'll speak to someone on the
32:12
Speaker 2: ground for what he'd say to Chris Bowen if he
32:15
Speaker 2: could front up to him. Welcome back, Andrew Bill coming
32:22
Speaker 2: up at the top of the air. I just need
32:23
Speaker 2: to correct myself. I think I said I saw retail
32:26
Speaker 2: diesel in Melbourne today at forty nine and two thirty nine.
32:30
Speaker 2: I actually saw it to fifty nine and to forty nine,
32:33
Speaker 2: So the dearest I saw it was up around let's
32:37
Speaker 2: call it two dollars sixty a liter for diesel, where
32:41
Speaker 2: I reckon I paid under two dollars a liter for
32:43
Speaker 2: it maybe a week ago, maybe two weeks ago, but
32:47
Speaker 2: not that long ago. I mean, the spike in fuel
32:49
Speaker 2: costs and Chris Bowen's absolute denial to admit it really
32:53
Speaker 2: does make me angry. I mean what it means for
32:55
Speaker 2: every day Australians obviously is tough, but think about the farm.
33:00
Speaker 2: I mean, you also wonder how people driving diesel powered
33:04
Speaker 2: to rac tractors will feel now pulling into a BP station.
33:07
Speaker 2: So let's find out what's happening in the real world,
33:11
Speaker 2: because I keep reading about people are working on farms
33:15
Speaker 2: not getting their supplies.
33:16
Speaker 3: Spare thought.
33:17
Speaker 2: For farmers, they're grappling with the uncertainty of having enough
33:21
Speaker 2: diesel to operate their machinery. In the Southern States, particularly,
33:25
Speaker 2: producers are on the cusp of a new planting season
33:28
Speaker 2: for grain, and around the country there's still some summer
33:30
Speaker 2: crop harvesting to do, let alone operating. Heybale machinery, you
33:34
Speaker 2: name it, you need absolute, you need diesel. Our column boys,
33:38
Speaker 2: the Queensland LMP, well he today went and saw Chris Bowen.
33:43
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what he managed to work out, but
33:46
Speaker 2: the Victorian Farmers Federation Brett Hosking always tells it as
33:49
Speaker 2: it is, joins me, Now, what's the real story. What
33:53
Speaker 2: are you hearing as opposed to what we've been told
33:56
Speaker 2: by the politicians?
33:57
Speaker 18: Brett, Yeah, thanks, Steve. I'm not on the side the
34:00
Speaker 18: road because I've run out of fuel, but that's a
34:01
Speaker 18: distinct possibility income in future. We are hearing of deliveries
34:06
Speaker 18: not being made to farms. We're hearing of service stations
34:10
Speaker 18: in rural communities running out of fuel, and we're seeing
34:13
Speaker 18: those price spikes. You know, fuel is close to a
34:18
Speaker 18: dollar or a liter deer and it was two weeks ago,
34:20
Speaker 18: which is frustrating because a lot of that fuel would
34:24
Speaker 18: have been on the water to the country. You know,
34:27
Speaker 18: we're not that quick at getting it out of another country.
34:29
Speaker 18: So you know, we are seeing these big price spikes,
34:32
Speaker 18: and I'm sure there's no price gouging, but jeez, you
34:35
Speaker 18: start to wonder, don't you st.
34:36
Speaker 3: To well, you do.
34:38
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at that board we've got on the
34:39
Speaker 2: screen there two dollars sixty nine for premium diesel, premium
34:44
Speaker 2: ninety eight petras, not that much more. I mean a
34:46
Speaker 2: big operator that would use I mean we've heard farmers
34:49
Speaker 2: talking about, you know, filling up thousand liter tanks. I
34:52
Speaker 2: mean they would have factored into their annual budgets. I presume, Brett,
34:57
Speaker 2: what the cost of their fuel would be to get
34:59
Speaker 2: their crop in or their crop off. Suddenly, now that's
35:02
Speaker 2: taken a massive jump.
35:03
Speaker 18: Oh absolutely. I mean tens of thousands of leaders at
35:06
Speaker 18: a time get delivered onto farms. You know, it's a
35:09
Speaker 18: ten thousand dollars extra hit and what it was two
35:12
Speaker 18: weeks ago. It's massive to your budget. But you need
35:17
Speaker 18: to put the seed in the ground, you need to
35:19
Speaker 18: spray the ground, you need to harvest the ground, so
35:21
Speaker 18: you need diesel to do all those things. We are
35:24
Speaker 18: so far away from being unreliant on liquid fuels in
35:30
Speaker 18: rural Victoria, rural Australia that it's not funny. We talk
35:34
Speaker 18: about electrifying vehicles and that's great in the cities where
35:36
Speaker 18: it works, but in rural communities it does not work.
35:40
Speaker 18: I've even had parents talk about how we're going to
35:44
Speaker 18: be able to take our kids a sport throughout the
35:46
Speaker 18: year given the distances involved and the extra costs that
35:49
Speaker 18: will be mounting up. So it's a really serious situation
35:52
Speaker 18: and we need a government that acknowledges, that listens to
35:55
Speaker 18: that and acts on that.
35:59
Speaker 3: Do you get us.
36:00
Speaker 2: It's the big operators that control the distribution system and
36:05
Speaker 2: that then comes down the change of smaller distributors that
36:09
Speaker 2: they are diverting diesel into metro markets.
36:15
Speaker 3: I hope that's not the case, but could that be happening?
36:18
Speaker 3: Do you believe?
36:20
Speaker 7: I'd like to think it's not. Steve.
36:23
Speaker 18: I'm away home from Melbourne at the moment. Actually, and
36:26
Speaker 18: there is probably more fuel trucks on the road heading
36:29
Speaker 18: north than I've ever seen, which is encouraging. It means
36:33
Speaker 18: that they are trying to meet the demand. So now
36:36
Speaker 18: hopefully I'll catch up. Hopefully I'll get there without a doubt.
36:39
Speaker 18: This war has caused unprecedented demand right across the country
36:43
Speaker 18: all at once. Everybody said, you know what, I need
36:46
Speaker 18: to do what I can to protect my business, to
36:49
Speaker 18: protect my family, to make sure I've got fuel, And
36:51
Speaker 18: they're doing the right things and they're fueling up their tanks.
36:54
Speaker 18: But when everybody's doing that at once, we've realized just
36:57
Speaker 18: how fragile a supply chain is. Victorian Farmers Federation have
37:01
Speaker 18: been talking to the government for years now saying that
37:04
Speaker 18: we need more than twenty to thirty days use of
37:07
Speaker 18: fuel in this country. United Nations saying ninety days. Now,
37:10
Speaker 18: if we had ninety days of fuel sitting in this
37:12
Speaker 18: country available for customers, then what that would mean is
37:16
Speaker 18: we wouldn't see to run on fuel. We wouldn't see
37:18
Speaker 18: everybody desperately trying to keep their car full going and
37:21
Speaker 18: buying Bunnings Jerry cans and filling them to the brim.
37:24
Speaker 18: Because they'd be comforted by the fact we've got three
37:26
Speaker 18: months worth of fuel in the country. We need to
37:29
Speaker 18: actually act on that as a matter of urgency.
37:33
Speaker 2: I've been critical of Bowen in this fuel standard change anyway.
37:37
Speaker 2: I just don't think it's necessary. He's now said, Okay,
37:40
Speaker 2: I'm going to relax that for six weeks. Here he
37:43
Speaker 2: is explaining that to Parliament today.
37:44
Speaker 13: Britt Today, I have decided to relax the requirements under
37:49
Speaker 13: the Fuel Quality Act, mister speaker when it comes to
37:51
Speaker 13: solfur content on a temporary sixty day basis. This will
37:55
Speaker 13: see one hundred million liters of fuel extra flow in
37:59
Speaker 13: Alia a month over that time. This, mister Speaker, is
38:03
Speaker 13: relevant only to the Ampole refinery, which currently makes fuel
38:07
Speaker 13: for export to countries with lower fuel standards than US.
38:10
Speaker 13: I have asked for and received an assurance from Ampole
38:14
Speaker 13: that this extra supply will be prioritized for regional Australia
38:18
Speaker 13: and for the spot market to take pressure off those
38:21
Speaker 13: regional areas feeling such pressure.
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Speaker 2: Brett, What's the reality, can you It's not a problem
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Speaker 2: going back to the quality of diesel with the sulfate
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Speaker 2: in it that it was previously the What it is now.
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Speaker 3: Is that an issue with the tuning of machinery.
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Speaker 18: Yeah, look, I think the modern day machinery should be
38:39
Speaker 18: able to handle it. I mean, it's good to get
38:45
Speaker 18: the fuel. The fuel is urgent at the moment we
38:47
Speaker 18: need to get into the country. It feels that there's
38:51
Speaker 18: something feels a little bit hypocritical about the same guy
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Speaker 18: who wants to plaster our rural landscape in renewable energy
38:58
Speaker 18: also saying we's quite happy to fuel that produces more emissions.
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Speaker 18: There's something doesn't quite feel exactly right about that. But
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Speaker 18: you know what, right now, I think Victorian farmers, Australian
39:08
Speaker 18: farmers need that fuel on farm, so whatever it takes
39:10
Speaker 18: to get it there, we need to get it there.
39:12
Speaker 18: But this is also we also need to stop talking
39:16
Speaker 18: about petrol and start acknowledging that our food, our supply chains,
39:20
Speaker 18: they run on diesel, not petrol, so we need to
39:23
Speaker 18: make sure we're getting diesel out into our communities.
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Speaker 2: I haven't even talked to you about fertilizer, but will
39:28
Speaker 2: come to that. I mean, that's obviously still a big issue.
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Speaker 2: You keep driving, mate, Thank you all is a pleasure
39:33
Speaker 2: to catch up with you at spread Hosking there from
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Speaker 2: the Victorian Farmers Federation a minute, it is a mess
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Speaker 2: and bowens and deny it. He just refuses to accept
39:41
Speaker 2: that there is a problem. He stands up there in
39:43
Speaker 2: his suit in Parliament and tells everybody no know the
39:47
Speaker 2: opposition of making this all up but turning it into
39:50
Speaker 2: a political storm and it's not real.
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Speaker 3: Well it is real and you can read it.
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Speaker 2: Farmer after farmer after farmer are having real problems. Brett
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Speaker 2: Hosking is great, Blok, thank you for that. After the
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Speaker 2: break the shop resignation today a former spyboss Dennis Richardson,
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Speaker 2: he's left the Anti Semitism Royal Commission, and I don't
40:09
Speaker 2: think he's very happy about it. Plus how serious are
40:12
Speaker 2: the reports around could launch a drone attack on California.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back, Let's get stuck into news today where our
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Speaker 2: Sky News contributor Koshergada and former Labour MP Michael Danby.
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Speaker 3: Welcome to you both.
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Speaker 2: I sat and watched a number of interviews today, Michael
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Speaker 2: with Dennis Richardson, former head of a z O, Ambassador
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Speaker 2: of the United States, ran the Prime Minister's Department. He's
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Speaker 2: quit the Anti Semitism Royal Commission over concerns about what
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Speaker 2: he was doing. He didn't think he had enough to
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Speaker 2: do and he's been paid too much to do it,
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Speaker 2: and it's a real loss. I mean, why wouldn't the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister picked the phone up to Dennis before he
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Speaker 2: did this, and so mate, I'll make you a joint
40:56
Speaker 2: Royal Commissioner.
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Speaker 4: He's an honest principal man and he didn't want to
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Speaker 4: be paid five five hundred dollars a day to, in
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Speaker 4: his words to Kier and Gilbert be a research assistant.
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Speaker 3: And it's a big.
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Speaker 4: Contradiction to what Burke, Albow and Wong said. We needed
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Speaker 4: to have a quick look at this to avoid something
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Speaker 4: happening in the future. What happens if something happens during
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Speaker 4: the rest of the year with the same network of people,
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Speaker 4: it's a disaster. He should be asked to stay on.
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Speaker 4: And I'm worried that Frankly Steve that the Royal Commission's
41:30
Speaker 4: going to be a bunch of legal lees and more
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Speaker 4: legislation and this, and that we don't need that. We
41:35
Speaker 4: need people to take action. We need to know if
41:37
Speaker 4: the Security Service has made a mistake. I don't think
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Speaker 4: they did, but Rich Richardson was the person to look
41:43
Speaker 4: into that.
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Speaker 2: He's going to be interviewed Kosher tonight by Sharry Marks,
41:47
Speaker 2: and she's talked to him already. I mean, the issue
41:50
Speaker 2: here is they chose the best qualified person in the
41:52
Speaker 2: first place. Straight after the Bondai massacre happened, Anthony Albaniez.
41:58
Speaker 2: He didn't want a royal commission this to be as quick,
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Speaker 2: as Michael said, investigation into anti Semitism.
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Speaker 3: And how these people were allowed to get under the radar.
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Speaker 3: Why let him go?
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Speaker 19: It sounds like, at a minimum best case, it's certainly
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Speaker 19: a pr nightmare because this doesn't look good and it
42:16
Speaker 19: takes the seriousness away from this. But I think the
42:19
Speaker 19: broader point is what you're saying and what Michael said,
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Speaker 19: which is these things has getmired and legal ease. It
42:24
Speaker 19: feels like a paperwork answer and diagnosis rather than real action.
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Speaker 19: And I will also make this point that one of
42:29
Speaker 19: the biggest root causes of this, and we all know it,
42:32
Speaker 19: is immigration, and when you lead to that goal extends
42:35
Speaker 19: well beyond this current administration. But when you have that,
42:38
Speaker 19: it's going to lead to downstream consequences where you have
42:40
Speaker 19: these different factions and they import their issues into the country,
42:44
Speaker 19: and if that is not part of the Royal Commission,
42:46
Speaker 19: then I think it's leaving a big, gaping hold of everything.
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Speaker 4: Kind of like it's a script from Yes, Minister this.
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Speaker 2: I've got a sense that he wanted to say a
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Speaker 2: lot more. He's a little of what he said to
42:54
Speaker 2: Kieren earlier.
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Speaker 10: I felt it had reached a point where I was
42:59
Speaker 10: adding relatively little value, and it was I wasn't getting
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Speaker 10: a lot of satisfaction out of her. Quite frankly, if
43:07
Speaker 10: you enjoy a challenge, right, if you enjoy tough jobs, right,
43:13
Speaker 10: it's very difficult to go back to what is essentially
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Speaker 10: a research officer. Mike.
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Speaker 3: You know him.
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Speaker 2: He's a tough character. Obviously, he's got such a wealth
43:24
Speaker 2: of knowledge. I think Kosh is right. What we've got
43:27
Speaker 2: to not see here is the central point of what
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Speaker 2: the Royal Commission should be about, is how we unleash
43:34
Speaker 2: let unleash Anti Semitism that ended up with these two radicals,
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Speaker 2: one allegend involved in BONDI And.
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Speaker 4: You've got to be robust about it would have been
43:43
Speaker 4: better to appoint him as you suggested, is that equal
43:47
Speaker 4: head of the Royal Commission rather than fold his inquiry,
43:50
Speaker 4: which they said had to be done quickly to stop
43:54
Speaker 4: this happening again into these inquirying him to be.
43:58
Speaker 3: Submerged by the lawyers.
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Speaker 2: Well that full in view of Cherry Marks and be
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Speaker 2: on tonight, so everybody should catch that. I want to
44:04
Speaker 2: talk about Mike Cannon Brooks. I mean, there's people that
44:06
Speaker 2: get under my skin. Chris Bowen is one of them.
44:08
Speaker 2: Chris Bowen trying to deny we've got a problem with
44:11
Speaker 2: fuel is just ridiculous. Canon Brooks is the other one.
44:13
Speaker 2: He sacked ten percent of at Lassian's workforce today. That's
44:17
Speaker 2: about sixteen hundred people. Did it by text, message and video,
44:21
Speaker 2: not face to face, of course, charming latest tech giants
44:25
Speaker 2: succumb to AI. That's why he's had to do it.
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Speaker 3: Kosher. This is from a bloke and this is where
44:30
Speaker 3: I get upset.
44:31
Speaker 2: Who flies around the world in a private jet and
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Speaker 2: has his company's name at Lassie and plasters it all
44:37
Speaker 2: over to Formula one cars from the Williams F one team,
44:41
Speaker 2: and now he's sacking half of his ten percent of
44:44
Speaker 2: his workforce. He runs around with his ponytail lecturing us
44:48
Speaker 2: about global when he flies around in a private jet
44:51
Speaker 2: and sponsors an F one team.
44:52
Speaker 3: How do these people get away with this stuff?
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Speaker 19: He is not the world's most sympathetic figure, that's for sure,
44:58
Speaker 19: because he is a billionaire fly private and sponsors the
45:01
Speaker 19: F one and then ceremonizes all of us and is
45:04
Speaker 19: about climate change as a climate crusader.
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Speaker 7: That is his issue.
45:06
Speaker 19: If he didn't do that, there's actually much to admire,
45:08
Speaker 19: and he's created and you know his innovation and skills
45:12
Speaker 19: as an entrepreneur. But that the sactimony is what bothers people.
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Speaker 19: In his defense, AI is real, It is a real thing.
45:19
Speaker 19: Doing it by text message was not a great look.
45:21
Speaker 19: He should take a page out of Jack Dorsey's playbook,
45:24
Speaker 19: who actually also did that, and I think went further
45:27
Speaker 19: eliminated something like forty percent of the workforce of Block,
45:30
Speaker 19: which affects after page which Block purchased, and he did
45:33
Speaker 19: it in a better way. It's pretty hard cutting. It's
45:36
Speaker 19: tough because a lot of people are losing their jobs
45:38
Speaker 19: to AI.
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Speaker 7: But that's well, Michael.
45:39
Speaker 2: We were telling kids in university about three or four
45:42
Speaker 2: years ago, learn how to write code. That's the future.
45:45
Speaker 2: This is where all the jobs are going to be
45:47
Speaker 2: Suddenly they're all disappearing. I mean, if you were in
45:49
Speaker 2: government and you were the Minister for Employment, for example,
45:53
Speaker 2: you'd have to be getting your own task force together
45:57
Speaker 2: to work out how we're going to.
45:57
Speaker 3: Deal with this.
45:59
Speaker 4: Where Zali Tigle and all the tales who get big
46:01
Speaker 4: donations from me, why aren't they protesting people?
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Speaker 3: You're not going to see that, are you? You're not
46:07
Speaker 3: going to see it.
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Speaker 19: They don't understand it either, No.
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Speaker 3: One I don't understand, So I can't criticize him for that.
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Speaker 2: We've had Republican Lindsay Grimes saying the US mission in
46:16
Speaker 2: Iran will not be complete until the regime's being completely
46:20
Speaker 2: dismantled and Iranians can contermine their own future.
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Speaker 3: That's a big wish.
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Speaker 19: It is a big wish, and he has created a
46:28
Speaker 19: little bit of a pr nightmare in the last forty
46:30
Speaker 19: eight hours. Lindsey Graham. He is also not the most
46:33
Speaker 19: sympathetic figure. He definitely represents the establishment wing, is very
46:37
Speaker 19: pro war in terms of the US policing the world.
46:40
Speaker 19: And we've debated how there's a rift for sure in
46:42
Speaker 19: the American electorate and in the party. And he's been
46:44
Speaker 19: using the preposition I a lot. I noticed on the
46:47
Speaker 19: last forty eight hours he's been all over TV saying
46:49
Speaker 19: I will do a deal without Arabia, and I will
46:52
Speaker 19: say that we will defend them if Iran attacks them,
46:54
Speaker 19: and I will tell Spain that they can't not be
46:57
Speaker 19: non cooperative with us. And all this stuff is not
47:00
Speaker 19: the commander in chief and for him to go out
47:01
Speaker 19: and meet these statements is not helpful. And President Trump is.
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Speaker 4: Having to that could handle that, Michael, Well, it's totally
47:08
Speaker 4: ridiculous for him to be so so pretentious as that.
47:11
Speaker 3: But if the American.
47:12
Speaker 4: Isolationous isolation has succeed in stopping Trump finishing the job
47:19
Speaker 4: and defanging Iran, it will discredit Donald Trump. And it
47:24
Speaker 4: worse than that, it will lead to the Aotole regime
47:27
Speaker 4: thinking that they'll just revive their missile ballistic missile program.
47:32
Speaker 4: Can't we see what they've done all over the Gulf
47:35
Speaker 4: to innocent Arab states that are not involved with it.
47:37
Speaker 4: I mean, And the worst is what Witkoff said about
47:40
Speaker 4: them disentering the four hundred and forty kilograms of sixty
47:43
Speaker 4: percent uranium.
47:45
Speaker 2: Interesting kosher gave Donald Trump. The threat on California supposedly
47:50
Speaker 2: gave Donald Trump the excuse to again called Gavin Uskinvin
47:55
Speaker 2: news come.
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Speaker 3: He absolutely loves doing that. And I don't think there
47:59
Speaker 3: was ever any real threat to California a man. I
48:02
Speaker 3: think that's probably gone. Thank you both for coming and
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Speaker 3: appreciate it very much. Thanks.
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Speaker 2: Andrew Bolt's coming up next. I mean, I've got to
48:07
Speaker 2: say the big issue that is going to remain for
48:10
Speaker 2: the next at least month is the cost of fuel
48:13
Speaker 2: in this country. I mean, we're now seeing diesel at
48:15
Speaker 2: the pump being sold at two dollars sixty a liter. Now,
48:20
Speaker 2: when you turn up in your big SUV to fill
48:23
Speaker 2: that up, it's going to probably cost you two hundred
48:25
Speaker 2: dollars to fill the car up.
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Speaker 3: People are not going to like that. Andrew bolts up next.