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Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, August 21 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars Football, Jaguars Digital Jack
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Speaker 1: Jack Warris Digital Jaguars Drive Time, Ryan Sex steps that,
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Speaker 1: John Oh shows it. Ashley Jaguars Drive Time starts right now.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome the Jaguars Drivetime Wednesday Morning, presented
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Speaker 1: by Duval Motor Company. As we get ready to head
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Speaker 1: down to Miami later on this afternoon, third preseason game
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Speaker 1: tomorrow against the Miami Dolphins, we're changing things up this morning.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to wait on big things because we
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Speaker 1: have Adam Beasley, Dolphins insider, on the phone. Adam, how's
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Speaker 1: it going great? Guys? I don't know what you're gonna
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Speaker 1: hear me, but I can barely hear you. Yeah, we'll
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Speaker 1: talk louder work quite a bunch formally. Yeah, that is
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Speaker 1: that is? That is it. Tell us Adam as you
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Speaker 1: off to fans or other media, what's the number one
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Speaker 1: question you're asked about this Dolphins team? Are they tanking?
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Speaker 1: Are they trying to win this year? Are they trying
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Speaker 1: to get the number one pick in the draft? And
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Speaker 1: depending on the day, I have a different answer. What
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Speaker 1: is it right now? Right now? I think they're trying
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Speaker 1: to win now because they're gonna probably start Ryan pits
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Speaker 1: Patricks their quarterback. If they were truly all in and
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Speaker 1: seeing what the future holds, Josh Rosen would start week one. Uh,
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Speaker 1: and it wouldn't matter if he's not quite ready yet
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Speaker 1: or if It'spatrick slightly better. They would be completely all
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Speaker 1: in on a rebuild going flour. But the fact that
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Speaker 1: Bryan Floors isn't ready to yet give Josh Rosen the
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Speaker 1: football tells me that they're trying to win week one,
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Speaker 1: week two, weeks three, weeks four, now once we get
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Speaker 1: past the bye in week five, if things aren't exactly
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Speaker 1: going their way, because see them making a change. But
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Speaker 1: right now, I see them all in on what not
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Speaker 1: all in but mostly in one. Adam, you've been around
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Speaker 1: this team a long time. Was there a point in
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Speaker 1: the last few years where you thought, Okay, they need
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Speaker 1: to tear it down to build it back up, because
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Speaker 1: that kind of looks like from afarest what they're doing.
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Speaker 1: Uh did you sense that. Did this sort of approach
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Speaker 1: surprise you or I guess where you at on that? Well,
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Speaker 1: tarret down is a strong word. I think they've just
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Speaker 1: made the wrong discision quarterback too long. I think That's
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Speaker 1: really what got them is that, Uh, even though Ryan
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Speaker 1: Tannell looks pretty decent up in Tennessee in the preseason,
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Speaker 1: we'll see if that's sustainable, but he pretty clearly wasn't
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Speaker 1: the guy, and uh, you got Joe Philbin fired and
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, he got at him
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Speaker 1: Gaze fired as well. So I think if they would
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Speaker 1: have made smarter decisions a quarterback, and maybe I had
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Speaker 1: a couple had longer term vision on the draft, because
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Speaker 1: they would trail away draft picks, they would trade it up,
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Speaker 1: they would not really accumulate the picks the way they
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Speaker 1: are now. That what Patriots have for years. They would
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Speaker 1: have had young talent to fill in when injuries happened.
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Speaker 1: They didn't have great depth. I think they always had
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Speaker 1: pretty decent topline talent. The issue was when guys would
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Speaker 1: get hurt, there'd be no one and to step in
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Speaker 1: and fill in those spots. So I don't know if
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Speaker 1: a full teardown was necessary, but I think what they're
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Speaker 1: doing is smart in a long term because it's it's
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Speaker 1: amazing when you hunt on a season when you basically say, hey,
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Speaker 1: we are not invested in trying to make the playoffs
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Speaker 1: this year, how much that freeze you're going forward, they'll
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Speaker 1: presumably have a high draft pick in they will have
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Speaker 1: a hundred five million dollars a cap space, and you
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Speaker 1: can use that along with the twelve picks they'll have
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Speaker 1: build a roster. So I think this year, more than anything,
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Speaker 1: guys is about identifying and acquiring as much young, cheap,
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Speaker 1: first little talent that will be part of the rebuild
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Speaker 1: in to three years when that this roster is really good,
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Speaker 1: that these guys will be part of it. But unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be some growing pains going forward, and I
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Speaker 1: think is gonna be a lot worse than maybe even
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Speaker 1: some Dolphins fans think where do you stand on Josh
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Speaker 1: Rosen now having seen him through an off season. In
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, it came in he's okay. I
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Speaker 1: mean he's not He's not great, he's not bad. He's okay.
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Speaker 1: He's probably better than what the Cardinals gave him credit for.
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Speaker 1: It's hard to trade away a top ten pick after
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Speaker 1: one year for for a late second and the fifth um.
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Speaker 1: I think he can be a decent quarterback, but that's
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Speaker 1: the problem is that this team has had decent quarterbacks
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Speaker 1: for too long, and they need great quarterbacks. They need
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Speaker 1: guys that that can make the difference, that can will
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Speaker 1: win you the game when it's tight with two minutes left,
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Speaker 1: that consistently play at a high level. I know those
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks you are rare, and I know every team once one,
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Speaker 1: but I mean, it's been what two decades since Dame
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Speaker 1: Marina retired, and they haven't found anyone close to filling
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Speaker 1: that role. Since they've had some playoff runs, they've had
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Speaker 1: some really good defenses, and sixteen they had a great
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Speaker 1: running attack, But to win consistently at this at this level,
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Speaker 1: and you need a quarterback that's really, really good, and
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Speaker 1: I think they understand that, and I think they're gonna
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Speaker 1: go try and find one. Uh was Rosen going to
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Speaker 1: be that guy? Look, they they bought a lot of
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Speaker 1: ticket when they traded for him. Uh, if he pans out,
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Speaker 1: it's great value. He's only making six million dollars in
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Speaker 1: the next three years. And if you get your franchise
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Speaker 1: quarterback for a late second, it's a home run. But
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Speaker 1: if it doesn't work out, and right now it's trending
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Speaker 1: in that direction, if it doesn't work out, then you
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Speaker 1: have a very affordable backup and it didn't really cost
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Speaker 1: you much. So uh No, I don't I don't know
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Speaker 1: if they necessarily need to blow it up, but what
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Speaker 1: they need to do is be smarter with the quarterback position,
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Speaker 1: and I think that more than anything, that is what
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Speaker 1: they're doing now. Adam Jaguars offensive coordinator John d. Filippo
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Speaker 1: said that the wide receivers on Thursday and are going
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Speaker 1: to have to put on their big boy hats because
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Speaker 1: this Dolphins defense loves to load the box and play
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Speaker 1: very physical. What is it about this Dolphins defense? What
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Speaker 1: stands out about them? Well, they're really multiple. Uh we
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Speaker 1: saw what Brian Flores did in the Super Bowl against
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Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh and the Rams and how he confused them
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Speaker 1: with different fronts and the back ends were interchangeable. And
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Speaker 1: and that's the vision that he wants for this defense.
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Speaker 1: And I think you're going to see a lot of
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Speaker 1: blitz is. You're gonna see a lot of you know,
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Speaker 1: Xavian Howard and Island with receivers because the other chin
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Speaker 1: Guyles will be running around doing all kinds of crazy stuff.
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Speaker 1: But I do think that this is a defense, it's
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Speaker 1: gonna be far more unpredictable, and yes, it could be physical.
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Speaker 1: I don't They don't have a ton of size on defense.
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Speaker 1: They're more fast than they are big. But yeah, you're
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Speaker 1: right there. They are going to load the box. They
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Speaker 1: are going to run downhill as much as possible, and
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be on the quarterbacks to to make them
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Speaker 1: pay for that. When you bring that that that fifth
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Speaker 1: or six free rusher, there's going to be an open
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Speaker 1: receiver somewhere and that's and that's what's gonna be the
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Speaker 1: problem with the Dolphins. I think Howard is gonna be
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Speaker 1: great this year. I think he's the highest fade corner
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Speaker 1: in football. I don't think he'll be a problem. The
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Speaker 1: corner on the other side, Eric Row, is going to
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Speaker 1: be tested a lot this year, and how he passes
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Speaker 1: or fails that test will go a long way to
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Speaker 1: determining how good this defense is. I guess finally, Adam,
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Speaker 1: I mean, you've seen the Patriots for years in that division.
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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of Bill Belichick coaches that have
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Speaker 1: gone on and not really had that much success. A
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Speaker 1: little bit Bill O'Brian probably as much as anyone in Houston.
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Speaker 1: What do you see from Brian floores. That makes you
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Speaker 1: think or or maybe do you don't think that he's
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Speaker 1: got a chance to break that trend. It's early. I
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Speaker 1: mean I like what he's trying to do. He's getting
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Speaker 1: back to old school football discipline, uh, gap assignment, uh,
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Speaker 1: desire to play. I mean, I think for a while
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Speaker 1: they had it Oftens had a lot of big names,
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Speaker 1: but not a lot of big effort, and that's not
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Speaker 1: going to be the case with this group. I think
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Speaker 1: he's really really smart when it comes to defensive scheming.
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Speaker 1: As I mentioned that Super Bowl game plan was fantastic,
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Speaker 1: So I don't think I don't I don't think they'll
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Speaker 1: ever be out game plan. I think they have a
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Speaker 1: lot of smart people making decisions there. What he just
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Speaker 1: has to do is get enough talent and make that
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Speaker 1: talent all buy in. That's that's really the most important
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Speaker 1: thing in football is Yes, you can have a ton
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Speaker 1: of superstars, but if they're all freelancing like Dominican Sue
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Speaker 1: did for three years down here, it's not gonna matter.
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Speaker 1: They're gonna need all fifty three guys in the same
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Speaker 1: page going forward, you know, pulling the rope in the
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Speaker 1: same direction. And again, this is some thing we haven't
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Speaker 1: seen for a long time in Miami. So am I
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Speaker 1: saying he's going to win a Super Bowl here? No,
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Speaker 1: I'm not that foolish to make that prediction because I've
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Speaker 1: be proven wrong nine times out of ten. But do
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Speaker 1: I think he's changing the culture and getting this franchise
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Speaker 1: in the direction it needs to be. Yes, and for
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Speaker 1: now that's good enough. Well, thank you so much for
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Speaker 1: your time, Adam. We're hoping it's not too hot and
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Speaker 1: not raining tomorrow when we get down to Miami. I
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Speaker 1: can't make any promise because I can pretty much promise
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Speaker 1: you it's gonna be hot though. Yeah, fair enough, it's
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Speaker 1: hot here too. Well, thank you Adam for your time.
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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Thanks Adam. All right see and when
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Speaker 1: against the Falcons at home next week. As we get
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Speaker 1: into big things, But before we getting into that, I
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Speaker 1: couldn't help but think when he was I'm sorry, Joe,
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Speaker 1: I completely butchered your music. I apologize. When Adam was
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Speaker 1: talking here in the morning, yeah, we're just gonna be honest.
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Speaker 1: When he was talking about the Dolphins quarterback situation, how
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Speaker 1: they haven't had a franchise guy in the rebuilding, I
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Speaker 1: couldn't help but think that's what the Jaguars were the
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Speaker 1: past few years now with Nick fole As you hope
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Speaker 1: that's fixed. Well, it's what most teams in the NFL are.
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Speaker 1: You're searching for one until you find one, and then
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Speaker 1: you ride that out and then you keep searching. On
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Speaker 1: the Jay Wars, frankly've been searching for in their entire
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Speaker 1: franchise history, h a guy like Adam described, which is
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Speaker 1: the guy who you feel like if you're down by
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Speaker 1: four with you know, two minutes left, the balls in
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Speaker 1: your favor right and the other team. You know, there's
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Speaker 1: a handful of guys like that, and when you get one,
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Speaker 1: your window is wide open for eight or nine playoff
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Speaker 1: appearances and then you move on. I can think of
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Speaker 1: just a handful of teams that have been able to
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Speaker 1: have continu Do you mean the Packers with Aaron Rodgers
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Speaker 1: following far and uh far and obviously the Colts with
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Speaker 1: Luck following Manning? But who the Cowboys had since Troy
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Speaker 1: Aikman retired And what about Jim Kelly when he left?
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Speaker 1: Who have the Bills had? I mean, it's just that's
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Speaker 1: when the Cowboys actually had a guy who at least,
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Speaker 1: oh he was the disparity and when Tom Brady retires.
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Speaker 1: Buckle up, Patriot fans. You might go generations before you
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Speaker 1: find another elite quarterback. Fair enough, All right, now let's
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Speaker 1: get into big things. I apologize, Joe. Are you ready
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Speaker 1: for this? He nods an agreement. Big thing one is
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Speaker 1: first and final, our first and final chance to see
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Speaker 1: the starters play in the preseason Thursday night. Coaches have
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Speaker 1: to make the right decision on who to play right now.
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Speaker 1: Nine guys sitting out for injury reasons, and you've got
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Speaker 1: to think how many series are they actually going to play.
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Speaker 1: We'll get to that later. Big thing, too, is Full's time.
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Speaker 1: A time Jackson has been waiting for for a very
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Speaker 1: long time is to see Nick Foles in game time action.
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Speaker 1: Now everyone's going to have their attention on him. The
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Speaker 1: Jaguars offensive coordinator John De Pilippo says, you really should
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Speaker 1: be paying attention to the wide receivers. I think they're
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Speaker 1: always going to try to outnumber you in the box. Okay,
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Speaker 1: there's always very similar to our defense. They're gonna have
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Speaker 1: an extra guy down there a lot. So our our
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Speaker 1: receivers want to put on their big boy hats a
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Speaker 1: little bit and get down in there. And get dirty. So, uh,
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Speaker 1: they're gonna have their hands full a little bit on
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Speaker 1: on Thursday night, So uh they'n have to strap it
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Speaker 1: up and go. But that's gonna be the challenge for
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Speaker 1: us is where do we find that extra hat to
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Speaker 1: get on their extra hat? And big thing three is
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Speaker 1: one to watch. The time is now to prove that
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Speaker 1: you can make the fifty three man roster. There's gonna
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Speaker 1: be some tough cuts coming up, especially on the defensive
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Speaker 1: line and secondary. There are a lot of good options there.
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Speaker 1: Todd wash is definitely happy that he's not the one
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Speaker 1: making those cuts. Um, you know, it was I think
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Speaker 1: for me personally, it was a little of a concern
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Speaker 1: where our depth was, uh in the back end, Um
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Speaker 1: coming into training camp, and uh, we've had some young
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Speaker 1: guys really step up that we're very pleased with. And
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Speaker 1: even some of the guys that were not even here
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Speaker 1: a year ago have played well. So there's gonna be
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Speaker 1: some tough decisions. Thank goodness, that's above my pay skill. Um,
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Speaker 1: but uh, you know, we're gonna have some tough decisions
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Speaker 1: in those two spots. I can't help but look when
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Speaker 1: he talks about those cuts the secondary, the cornerbacks and
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Speaker 1: the safeties. There's so many great guys behind Jalen Ramsey,
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Speaker 1: a j boy, and the safety is that it's gon
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Speaker 1: be hard to pick the depth right there. I think
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Speaker 1: he's probably talking about Brian border is more than anybody
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Speaker 1: there that I think they knew about Trey Herndon. They
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Speaker 1: already they already knew their their top three corners. So
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Speaker 1: guy Brian Borders, who has made plays sometimes, Brian went
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Speaker 1: a guy makes plays during training camp in preseason and
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Speaker 1: and it gets a lot of p b u s.
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Speaker 1: It's sort of fools gold and you're not really sure
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Speaker 1: how the coaches feel about him, and the coaches like
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Speaker 1: Brian Borders to go with his production. C. J. Reeves
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Speaker 1: is also another guy. I think those two guys are
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Speaker 1: the guys that have really stepped up in surprise him.
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Speaker 1: When Todd tell my, guys who weren't here last year?
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Speaker 1: Rivas was here last year, Boarders came mid season. There's
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Speaker 1: the two guys who stood out to me. Yeah, on
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Speaker 1: the offensive side, I'll go to the offensive line and
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Speaker 1: Josh Wells, who's battling for a job. You know he
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Speaker 1: has one to watch because we've talked about his value
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Speaker 1: here uh many times through the course of the off
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Speaker 1: season and his inability to stay healthy. So he has
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Speaker 1: to really grab these guys attention and play very well
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Speaker 1: in his opportunities both tomorrow night and next week against
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Speaker 1: the Falcons, so that they're willing to say it's worth
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Speaker 1: the risk to bring him back, even though we know
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Speaker 1: we might not get eight games out of him. Right.
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Speaker 1: You hope he's a backup and he's not playing that much,
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Speaker 1: but Wells is a guy that you haven't been able
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Speaker 1: to count on from an injury standpoint. But I got
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Speaker 1: to watch for sure. We go back to big things too.
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Speaker 1: I think it was really telling when Johnny Filippo has asked,
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Speaker 1: how excited are you to see Nick Foles? He said, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm excited, but we have to remember this is the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars offense, kind of downplaying all the att nick Foles.
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Speaker 1: By the way, before we go down that road, he
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Speaker 1: was talking about big boy hats. Could someone tell him
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Speaker 1: to put a hat on that man needs in the sun.
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Speaker 1: He's a Philadelphia guy, right, who has spent some time
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Speaker 1: in other places, but this is his first floor to stop.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure his wife, Harry is going to want him
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Speaker 1: to put a hat on. I'm going to tell him
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Speaker 1: put a hat on, get a big boy hat on. Okay,
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Speaker 1: what was your question again? Downplaying Nick Foles Jaguars offense,
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Speaker 1: focusing on the offense as a whole. He always get
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Speaker 1: asked so much about Nick Foles. He wanted to talk
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Speaker 1: about the offense and how they're doing well. I think
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Speaker 1: he knows what Nick Foles is. He's been around him,
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Speaker 1: and he has a comfort level with if everybody's playing
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Speaker 1: a certain level around Nick. I think Flip knows that
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Speaker 1: he's going to get ex out of nick Um. And
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Speaker 1: the big question is how is he going to link
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Speaker 1: up with did he Westbrook, Chris Connley, all these guys.
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Speaker 1: There has been a lot of flashes of chemistry, but
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Speaker 1: we haven't seen it in a game, and this is
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Speaker 1: gonna be the chance. I expect the offense to be
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Speaker 1: significantly better in the passing game last year the last year,
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Speaker 1: and I think you're gonna see overall continuity. I don't
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Speaker 1: know how quickly they get there. I think these three
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Speaker 1: series will say a little bit about how they're moving
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Speaker 1: towards that direction. How much better do they have to
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Speaker 1: be to be effective? That's the real question that I
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Speaker 1: have because they were entirely ineffective. It was I don't
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Speaker 1: want say laughable, but it really had gotten to the
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Speaker 1: point last year with the injuries on the offensive line,
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Speaker 1: that it was a laughable offense to to watch. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so how much better do you have to? I mean,
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Speaker 1: just Nick showing up now all of a sudden, no
17:36
Speaker 1: one's laughing. I wouldn't laughing. What you're not laughing or
17:39
Speaker 1: you weren't left any think it was funny. It wasn't
17:43
Speaker 1: a good time. I didn't enjoy I don't want to
17:45
Speaker 1: do it again. But figure of speech there was if
17:47
Speaker 1: you use those in writing, but in broadcasting these figures
17:50
Speaker 1: of speech, and that was what I was talking about.
17:52
Speaker 1: So I think that you will see, um if you
17:56
Speaker 1: see the middle of the pack passing offense that plays
17:59
Speaker 1: to the strength to this defense. They don't have to
18:02
Speaker 1: go from somewhere in the low two's passing yard, which
18:06
Speaker 1: is where they were, to somewhere in the high threes.
18:08
Speaker 1: They just need to get halfway there. They need to
18:11
Speaker 1: get towards You might even take yardage out, it doesn't matter.
18:16
Speaker 1: They may be able, need to be able to convert
18:20
Speaker 1: on third down at and have thirty one minutes and
18:25
Speaker 1: thirty seconds time of possession. What you just mentioned to
18:28
Speaker 1: me is the absolutely kid, I think he's getting on it.
18:30
Speaker 1: They have to be able third and five. If you
18:34
Speaker 1: face four those any game and you're converting nine, and
18:38
Speaker 1: all of a sudden because of foals, you're converting two
18:40
Speaker 1: of those a game, how much better are you? How
18:43
Speaker 1: many of how many times does they get you an
18:46
Speaker 1: average of four more points a game? And how many
18:48
Speaker 1: more games would they have wanted they converted one of those.
18:50
Speaker 1: It's those little situations where I think he's gonna help. Well.
18:52
Speaker 1: There's one of the key situation that comes from the
18:54
Speaker 1: final game of last year. On the Texans opening drive,
18:57
Speaker 1: they went three and out d J Chark. The Jaguars
19:00
Speaker 1: went three and out and punted, and DJ Chark got
19:03
Speaker 1: down and forced the returner to fumble the ball. The
19:06
Speaker 1: Jaguars took over inside the twenty yard line. You gotta
19:09
Speaker 1: score touchdown there. You need an offense that can put
19:11
Speaker 1: seven on the board, not three. When they seven for
19:14
Speaker 1: three the Texans went while this went's over. These guys
19:16
Speaker 1: can't score. So the reality of it is is that
19:19
Speaker 1: you need them to be able to take the defense
19:21
Speaker 1: and what they give you and convert that into points.
19:24
Speaker 1: They should be able to do that. Fools has done that,
19:27
Speaker 1: or at least the last two years he's done that.
19:30
Speaker 1: Got to score in the red zone for sure. When
19:31
Speaker 1: DJ Chuck makes a great heads up play like that,
19:33
Speaker 1: I remember that time and thinking, if anything, now you
19:36
Speaker 1: have to score. So you don't need Nick Foles to
19:39
Speaker 1: come in here and look like Drew Brees. It'd be
19:41
Speaker 1: great if you did. You shouldn't expect that be a bonus.
19:44
Speaker 1: It would be well two million dollars a year. I
19:47
Speaker 1: don't know if that's a bonus. I think maybe you
19:48
Speaker 1: think you're paying for it. But you know my point
19:50
Speaker 1: I get that is just do a couple of the
19:51
Speaker 1: small things well and it should make a big difference.
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Speaker 1: talked over the music. You're reading that, but all you're
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Speaker 1: thinking about is the gays on set. I just hate
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Speaker 1: beginning a lot of selfies. Why the Miami Hurricane? Miami?
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Speaker 1: I hate Max is in my year. I know he's
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Speaker 1: about to say something about the Syminols. It's coming, all right,
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Speaker 1: God knows there it is. All right, John, You're ready,
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Speaker 1: I was born ready. All right, Let's go to Mike
22:41
Speaker 1: from Wisconsin Zone. Nothing against Minshew, but I enjoyed seeing
22:46
Speaker 1: Magoo's mobility against the Eagles Thursday. Any chance we get
22:49
Speaker 1: to see more of him coming this week, especially with
22:52
Speaker 1: the second team, UM, I would be surprised if you
22:55
Speaker 1: see much in Magoo before the last maybe two series.
22:59
Speaker 1: And I would be really surprised if you saw him
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Speaker 1: with the second team, because I think they're going to
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Speaker 1: get Minshew. I just paid Foals. I don't think they'll
23:07
Speaker 1: play through half time. I anticipate Foals playing maybe two
23:10
Speaker 1: or three series, and then you would go Minshew until
23:13
Speaker 1: probably the third quarter. I don't think there's that much
23:15
Speaker 1: interest in seeing Magoo with the second team because I
23:18
Speaker 1: think they know what he is. I think they know
23:20
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a practice squad guy. Uh And I
23:22
Speaker 1: think the priority is getting Minshew as many reps within
23:26
Speaker 1: the context of also getting the starters playing on on Thursday.
23:29
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't see McGoo at
23:31
Speaker 1: all in my AMI and that they saved all of
23:33
Speaker 1: his reps for the for the Falcons game that put
23:36
Speaker 1: Minshew out there for a quarter, get him off, and
23:38
Speaker 1: then let Magoo have the last three. I mean there
23:41
Speaker 1: have been times in this franchise's history where that's how
23:43
Speaker 1: they've approached it, and let that last quarterback have most
23:46
Speaker 1: of the last game. McGoo could even start the final.
23:48
Speaker 1: I mean, if they think they've seen enough of Minshew
23:51
Speaker 1: to know what he is, I'd like to see him
23:53
Speaker 1: get the reps. But you could also see the argument,
23:56
Speaker 1: based on what they're doing with health, that if they
23:58
Speaker 1: know this kid's the backup, let's not risk it. So
24:00
Speaker 1: we'll see. All right, let's go to Chris from Canada.
24:04
Speaker 1: Hey zone, if you could change history and do or
24:07
Speaker 1: undo one roster moved from the Tom Coughlin two point
24:10
Speaker 1: oh era, what would it be? Well, I think i'd
24:12
Speaker 1: probably do too. Um, this is such a no brainer.
24:15
Speaker 1: I'm going to shut my mouth and well, and I
24:20
Speaker 1: think I don't think he was an elite receiver. But
24:25
Speaker 1: Allen Robinson resigning I would have liked to have seen
24:28
Speaker 1: in retrospect. I don't consider the Blake Bortles a roster
24:31
Speaker 1: move because it was a salary cat. I didn't consider
24:36
Speaker 1: Blake for this question because he was already on the roster. Uh.
24:39
Speaker 1: In that sense, I would also say I would not
24:41
Speaker 1: have I would not have resigned that Kelvin Smith to
24:44
Speaker 1: the extension simply because of the position, not because of Telvin,
24:47
Speaker 1: but because of the position, the positional value. But uh,
24:50
Speaker 1: you know, I understood why they went with a rab
24:53
Speaker 1: And or let a Rob go and I brought in Norwell,
24:58
Speaker 1: I don't know if in retrospect that was the right move.
25:00
Speaker 1: So I interpreted that because roster move can mean in
25:03
Speaker 1: anything draft, and I would not have drafted Leonard for Nett.
25:07
Speaker 1: I'm going back in retrospect, right because I said for
25:10
Speaker 1: the way that they wanted to play in seventeen, for
25:12
Speaker 1: Net was the right guy at that moment, and he
25:13
Speaker 1: was a key part of what they did in seventeen.
25:16
Speaker 1: But if you're looking at positional value, I would have
25:18
Speaker 1: taken Patrick Mahomes, who in his first season as a
25:22
Speaker 1: starter becomes the league m v P. And I had
25:24
Speaker 1: somebody say to me yesterday, Oh, he was a system guy.
25:26
Speaker 1: So too was Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers was the pick
25:32
Speaker 1: of the first round in two thousand five because people said, well,
25:34
Speaker 1: he was a system quarterback. He played for Jeff Tedford
25:37
Speaker 1: at Cow just a system guy. Well, look, I think
25:41
Speaker 1: it's clear. The armed talent alone says that Mahomes is
25:44
Speaker 1: a special guy, and based on what he did in
25:47
Speaker 1: his first season as a starter, I think it's a
25:49
Speaker 1: no brainer. I don't draft for NET and I draft Mahomes,
25:52
Speaker 1: then I don't have to mess with a Bortle steal.
25:54
Speaker 1: And I just moved forward the quarterback and before people
25:56
Speaker 1: go away, you didn't know. They're supposed to know, right,
25:59
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be able to look at a quarterback
26:01
Speaker 1: with special qualities and no, a lot of people will
26:04
Speaker 1: rue the day that they didn't take. You might look
26:07
Speaker 1: it up. No one wants to system guy or not.
26:12
Speaker 1: I'd like to have him on my team. Take him,
26:15
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. There's been too many quarterbacks have come
26:16
Speaker 1: out of systems and had success. All right, let's wrap
26:19
Speaker 1: it up with Bruce from Green Coke Springs, Florida. For
26:22
Speaker 1: the coaches and players, preseason started two weeks ago. For fans,
26:26
Speaker 1: the preseason starts on Thursday in Miami. Assume we get
26:29
Speaker 1: to see our starters for at least a few series.
26:31
Speaker 1: Best guests, Well, um, I already said I think they
26:34
Speaker 1: played three series. I think they probably get out midway
26:36
Speaker 1: to the second quarter. Brian, I wonder do you see
26:39
Speaker 1: the same way. Yeah, In fact, I don't. I wouldn't
26:43
Speaker 1: see I'd put him out at the end of the
26:45
Speaker 1: first quarter no matter what. Just that's it. Yeah, I don't.
26:49
Speaker 1: There's no reason for it. We've already decided that the
26:52
Speaker 1: preseason holds very little value right now except for some
26:56
Speaker 1: guys getting some you know, physical contact in line backers.
27:00
Speaker 1: Like Kevin Hardy said the other night, Um, I think
27:03
Speaker 1: the defense plays a couple of series. If they want
27:06
Speaker 1: to see something that they're trying to do, YE know
27:12
Speaker 1: that they've been working in camp. I want to see
27:13
Speaker 1: it on the field. And I had a coach tell
27:14
Speaker 1: me the other day that, look, even when the starters
27:16
Speaker 1: are on the things that you're asking them to do
27:19
Speaker 1: are very vigula, not just to protect your new offense
27:22
Speaker 1: and your new offensive coordinator, but because you just don't
27:25
Speaker 1: want guys out there taking risks. Not in a preseason game.
27:29
Speaker 1: So not a lot. I wouldn't expect to see a lot,
27:31
Speaker 1: even if they're on the field. Don't expect to see
27:33
Speaker 1: a lot. One thing that I was kind of surprised
27:35
Speaker 1: of listening to Doug yesterday, it sounds like Cam Robinson
27:38
Speaker 1: has a pretty good chance to play on Thursday, And
27:40
Speaker 1: that was something earlier in the week I wasn't sure
27:42
Speaker 1: about Yeah, I'm not sure. I mean in talking to
27:47
Speaker 1: Cam afterwards, Cam talked on the lines of we're taking
27:53
Speaker 1: it day by day and we'll see what happens. So
27:57
Speaker 1: you know, I think that will still be a decision.
27:59
Speaker 1: That's may flipping point either way, flip the coin. I
28:02
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised at all if we get there and
28:04
Speaker 1: he's warming up and Doug just says to us after
28:06
Speaker 1: the game and we just decaid there was no reason
28:08
Speaker 1: to do it. Give him another week of practice and
28:10
Speaker 1: we'll have him ready for Kansas City before we're talking.
28:12
Speaker 1: Having two and a half more weeks, you could see
28:16
Speaker 1: the logic and not do it, or especially with how
28:18
Speaker 1: health conscious they've been this whole preseason, do you have
28:20
Speaker 1: him play because you don't know where he's at right now.
28:23
Speaker 1: I haven't play. Maybe he doesn't. Either way, wouldn't surprise me.
28:27
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Jack's Drive Time. As we wrap up
30:44
Speaker 1: the show with some Ashland asked the hard hitting questions
30:47
Speaker 1: on Wednesday morning that these guys have been waiting for
30:50
Speaker 1: John even sleep last night because he was so excited. Yeah. Yeah,
30:53
Speaker 1: that's why I didn't, right, because you were worried about
30:56
Speaker 1: Ashlan asking when I was, I don't sleep. Well. I apologize, John.
31:02
Speaker 1: Maybe you will tonight because the Jaguars play tomorrow. Still,
31:05
Speaker 1: I don't worry. I don't worry for the preseason, as
31:08
Speaker 1: you know from John. All right, Ashlyn asked number one,
31:11
Speaker 1: who are you excited to see on Thursday. Besides Nick Foles.
31:16
Speaker 1: We all know we're excited to see him first drive.
31:19
Speaker 1: Can it be a derivative of Folds? And we can't
31:21
Speaker 1: have something to do with foals? And now I'm wondering
31:25
Speaker 1: where you're going with this. Someone folds throwing the ball too.
31:33
Speaker 1: I'm onto you, Edie westbroo um I thought late last year,
31:40
Speaker 1: I go back to to the year that Maurice Jones
31:44
Speaker 1: drew led the league in rushing with one of the
31:46
Speaker 1: worst passing offenses in football, and it was remarkable how
31:50
Speaker 1: everyone knew that Mojo was getting the ball and yet
31:52
Speaker 1: no one could stop him. And it was It wasn't
31:55
Speaker 1: the same production, but it was a similar effect last year.
31:59
Speaker 1: Late in the year they knew to be Westbrook was
32:00
Speaker 1: the only weapon that the quarterbacks in Jacksonville had that
32:04
Speaker 1: they could rely on, and he still found ways to
32:06
Speaker 1: make plays. Uh So, now I'm eager to see him
32:09
Speaker 1: with a quarterback who can hit him and stride because
32:12
Speaker 1: he is a run to catch guy, and see if
32:16
Speaker 1: he can't really take advantage. We've seen it on the
32:18
Speaker 1: practice field. It's been exciting. Now it's got to translate
32:21
Speaker 1: against another opponent. I hesitated with this because it's the
32:24
Speaker 1: offensive line, and it's tough to see the offensive line
32:29
Speaker 1: during the preseason because there's so many elements that are
32:32
Speaker 1: going crazy around it, and often with the offensive line,
32:35
Speaker 1: it takes time for it to get continuity. It's often
32:38
Speaker 1: not an area that comes together in one series, but
32:41
Speaker 1: there's so much focus on this area. It's such a
32:43
Speaker 1: key to this area. I would like to see all
32:46
Speaker 1: five play together. I don't know if if if the
32:49
Speaker 1: right guard who starts, if it's can, I don't know
32:51
Speaker 1: if they've decided the right guard yet, but some semblance
32:54
Speaker 1: of that starting line. You would like to see it
32:57
Speaker 1: not be a you know, Katie Barr the door situation
33:03
Speaker 1: as it has been the first couple of games. You
33:05
Speaker 1: would think it's not with the starters. But to me,
33:07
Speaker 1: the offensive line is still the major question mark going
33:09
Speaker 1: in season. I have few doubts about the receivers and
33:12
Speaker 1: folds or the running game. If the offensive line is functional,
33:16
Speaker 1: I don't know that we know that it is yet.
33:18
Speaker 1: You haven't seen it right, so how can you know.
33:19
Speaker 1: That's what he's worried about. That's the worried part that
33:23
Speaker 1: I don't want to rue the day that the offensive
33:26
Speaker 1: lack of sleep. All right, so you kind of mentioned this,
33:30
Speaker 1: how many series of starters are playing what the Jaguars think.
33:33
Speaker 1: But if it were up to you, how many series
33:36
Speaker 1: what the starters play than this was to go ahead
33:44
Speaker 1: zero zero. You don't need to see anything. If we're
33:47
Speaker 1: about protecting guys, which is what three of the four
33:50
Speaker 1: games were, why would you play with even a single series?
33:54
Speaker 1: You know, I mean get the time out of the
33:56
Speaker 1: practice field. Dougas said multiple times, both to the media
33:59
Speaker 1: and in urt the production meetings that he believes that
34:02
Speaker 1: there's value, great value in practice. They're getting more reps
34:05
Speaker 1: on the practice field. Uh, they're controlled. I mean, if
34:09
Speaker 1: you're not going to play him at all in game
34:11
Speaker 1: one or game two, white playing the game three, stick
34:13
Speaker 1: to the plan, stick in mind offense three, defense zero
34:21
Speaker 1: and no zone zero, you will not be seen on
34:23
Speaker 1: the field. Well, he didn't want to write a story.
34:26
Speaker 1: He's written enough going so alright, something but it won't
34:32
Speaker 1: be good. I'll throw a shot a bone. But um,
34:35
Speaker 1: I'd like to see the offense for three series, just
34:37
Speaker 1: to see some continuity. I think the fact that they
34:41
Speaker 1: haven't played with Nick to get some sort of feel
34:44
Speaker 1: for how he is in a game is beneficial, and
34:47
Speaker 1: I might drop that down to two. I wouldn't play
34:49
Speaker 1: the defense, and I wouldn't have his own go. He
34:50
Speaker 1: would not have zone go. But zone will be on
34:54
Speaker 1: whether he likes it or not. He's not next to me.
34:58
Speaker 1: That's why I don't want to go just because of that.
35:02
Speaker 1: All right, Finally, who was going to make this team
35:05
Speaker 1: that people don't expect that It would be a bit
35:09
Speaker 1: of surprise for someone to see on Twitter. Wow, I
35:12
Speaker 1: can't believe he made that team. Good questions. It's a
35:16
Speaker 1: really good one. Thank you. I thought long and hard
35:19
Speaker 1: about it. I stumped him. Finally, I should get a
35:28
Speaker 1: raised for this. I hope Patrick and Dave are listening.
35:40
Speaker 1: All Right, what you got? Zone? These are always so
35:44
Speaker 1: hard because I don't quite know what people expect uh
35:49
Speaker 1: to win. Two ways, I think Smoot. I don't think
35:52
Speaker 1: it'll be surprised who makes the team. I think what
35:53
Speaker 1: would surprise people is how highly they think of Smoot
35:56
Speaker 1: right now. He's a guy that when camp started, I
35:59
Speaker 1: think I wondered if he was going to make the team. Uh.
36:02
Speaker 1: My understanding is he's played exceptionally well and if they
36:06
Speaker 1: like where he's headed. Uh, I would say Borders. I
36:09
Speaker 1: think we talked about Borders earlier, so people maybe thinking
36:11
Speaker 1: he's going to make the team. But at the beginning
36:13
Speaker 1: of camp I don't think he was a guy that
36:15
Speaker 1: people would have thought, Hey, he's gonna be on the roster,
36:18
Speaker 1: and I think he has a chance now. I think
36:19
Speaker 1: if you asked a lot of people at the start
36:21
Speaker 1: of the season, Smoot was going to make it because
36:23
Speaker 1: you talk about the depth of defensive line, especially, and
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Speaker 1: I understand he's he's the first guy backing up Calais Campbell,
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Speaker 1: He's ahead of Jones. People are talking about Jones, but
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Speaker 1: Smoots playing well, what is going on there? I was
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Speaker 1: trying to draw a hammer because they call Andrew winger, right,
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Speaker 1: it looked like a nice hamer. I was kind of
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Speaker 1: getting there, but I'm not much of it. If he
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Speaker 1: would drawn a hammer at hammer in the morning, at hammer,
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Speaker 1: if I had a hammer. Peter, Paul and Mary sometimes
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Speaker 1: we really work together when I get the feeling that
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Speaker 1: they wouldn't hammer as much as they think they will
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Speaker 1: for our older audience is just really enjoying. That was brilliant,
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Speaker 1: It really was. It was I think and I think,
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Speaker 1: don't push it. I think Andrew Winger is a guy
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Speaker 1: who has a real chance to make this team. Uh
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Speaker 1: he's played well as the safety, and he's played other
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Speaker 1: than the poor choice of holding in Baltimore. I think
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Speaker 1: he's played well on special teams. I don't know that
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Speaker 1: he makes it, but I think people would obviously be surprised,
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Speaker 1: and I think they like him. I think he makes
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Speaker 1: I think he's here, he's on special teams if he's
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Speaker 1: not on the active roster. But I think there's a
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Speaker 1: chance that he's on the active roster. I think a
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Speaker 1: lot of people would be surprised because a lot of
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Speaker 1: people would go, who I think he's been the fourth
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Speaker 1: best safety. You're gonna keep four safeties unless now see
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Speaker 1: this is a point that comes up every year. They
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Speaker 1: might keep him, and then someone gets released around the
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Speaker 1: league and they say, well, that guy is better than him.
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Speaker 1: He goes to the practice squad. So that's the tough
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Speaker 1: part really about saying who might make it, because we're
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Speaker 1: talking about person three, and then those guys are easily
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Speaker 1: often replaced within days. When I was with the Times
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Speaker 1: Union second third year of covering the Jaguars, I did
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Speaker 1: man roster came out Monday open locker room. I wrote
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Speaker 1: this fifteen in story, this nice story, and this kid
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Speaker 1: who made the team and I can't remember his name
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Speaker 1: for the life of me, but a long story short.
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Speaker 1: If you look up his stats, his stats are one
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Speaker 1: game play in the NFL, never heard from again. The
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Speaker 1: week one game was the only game he played. He's out.
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Speaker 1: Do you remember his name? It was a cornerback. It
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Speaker 1: was a short cornerback who was surprised to make the team.
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Speaker 1: And it was so surprising that he wasn't on the
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Speaker 1: team next week. So that's why writing a story on him,
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Speaker 1: I didn't take that long. Brilliant, He's good at what
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Speaker 1: he does. He might write one tomorrow night. It's it's
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Speaker 1: not the most incident that my story I've ever ever written.
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Speaker 1: I can tell you that what is it? There's competition.
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Speaker 1: We'll stay tuned for John's amazing writing tomorrow as the
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