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Monday 4pm hour 05/04/26 · Ron Verb

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Speaker 1: WKBN. 407 in the afternoon, 73 degrees. You're on the air. Hello.
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Speaker 1: get the powers to be to see if they know
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Speaker 1: what's going on here. There we go.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 1: Well, we'll see if that works. Anyway, we're talking here.
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Speaker 1: People ask... How do I assess this whole situation? When
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Speaker 1: we talk about Iran and what's going on with it,
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Speaker 1: there isn't anything good about $ 5 gasoline. But I don't
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Speaker 1: want people, when I bellyache about it, I don't want
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Speaker 1: people to misunderstand me for one minute. I mean, do
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Speaker 1: you think for a second I regret voting for Trump?
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Speaker 1: I do not. Do you think I would feel that
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Speaker 1: we'd be better off if Biden was president or Kamala
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Speaker 1: Harris was president? I do not. So I voted for
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Speaker 1: Trump three times. In general, overall, I think he's done
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Speaker 1: a really good job. And I can disagree with him.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter whether I agree or disagree on the
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Speaker 1: reasons why we started this war with Iran. It's irrelevant
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Speaker 1: at this point because it's underway. So it doesn't matter.
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Speaker 1: It's not even worth debating. I suspect when we reach
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Speaker 1: some type of conclusion or it's over, we can discuss that.
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Speaker 1: But until then, what's the point? I mean, it's here
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Speaker 1: and it's happening. Do I get frustrated with the Democrats
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Speaker 1: who seem, as I've said earlier, they seem like they
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Speaker 1: hate Trump more than they love their country? And I
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Speaker 1: would say that that's true. It's almost the Democrats' wish
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Speaker 1: for failure because it could make Trump look bad. In
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Speaker 1: so many ways, as I say, they hate Trump more
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Speaker 1: than they love their country and they wish for failure.
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Speaker 1: And that makes me sit back and wonder. why anyone
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Speaker 1: would root in that fashion. And I find them doing that.
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Speaker 1: So when I look at this particular situation, I mean,
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Speaker 1: is it fair to, as I say, I'm not a
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Speaker 1: cheerleader for Trump. I'd vote for him again. When I
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Speaker 1: look at this situation, do I have some questions about it? Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: Why we got in it in the first place. You
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Speaker 1: keep telling me a deal is close, a deal is near,
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Speaker 1: yet I don't see one. And I'm constantly hearing this.
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Speaker 1: Iran wants to make a deal. Iran wants to make
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Speaker 1: a deal. But there isn't one yet. And I'm still
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Speaker 1: looking for one. And there isn't one. When is that
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Speaker 1: going to happen? I keep hearing it. We got him
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Speaker 1: on the ropes. And I think we do. Economically speaking.
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Speaker 1: They're devastated, but are they willing to take the hit
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Speaker 1: and wait us out? Because they know we're going to
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Speaker 1: pack up and go back home. They know the midterms
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Speaker 1: are coming, and they know maybe it's a waiting game.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Is that part of their culture? They
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Speaker 1: don't care the pain that's inflicted on their own people?
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Speaker 1: I don't understand. As I said last hour, their culture.
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Speaker 1: I don't get it. But I do understand our culture here,
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Speaker 1: as I say, and I do understand the economics of things.
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Speaker 1: And over the weekend, I was reading a guy that
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Speaker 1: says the problem really isn't is an oil shortage, actually,
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Speaker 1: is what the problem is. And that's why. When you
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Speaker 1: look at the global situation, that's why you see five
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Speaker 1: dollar a gallon gasoline here. And he seemed to think
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Speaker 1: that that situation would be getting worse, not better. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's one man's opinion. as far as somebody with some
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Speaker 1: degree of know-how in the industry. So I just pass
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Speaker 1: it along. So you see gas prices in my neck
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Speaker 1: of the woods at $ 4. 89, $ 5 a gallon, which is
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Speaker 1: interesting because in other parts of the country, it's less.
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Speaker 1: I don't know why that is. With the exception of California,
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Speaker 1: we all know why those prices are high out there.
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Speaker 1: But why is it less when we look at Other
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Speaker 1: areas close to us. It might be $ 4. 50 a gallon.
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Speaker 1: And here it's $ 5. You sit back and you wonder, well,
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Speaker 1: what the hell is going on here? So the headlines today,
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Speaker 1: Iran attacks UAE.
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Speaker 3: U.S.
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Speaker 1: Says it sank boats in Strait of Hormuz. The headlines today,
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Speaker 1: traffic in the Strait of Hormuz. Won't return to normal
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Speaker 1: until August or later, according to traders. Well, this is May. June, July, August?
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Speaker 1: It's a ways off. Next headline, U.S. military denies Iran's
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Speaker 1: claim it's struck American warship in Strait of Hormuz. Dow
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Speaker 1: falls 500 points as oil jumps on fear Iran conflict
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Speaker 1: set to flare up again. So if that's the case,
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Speaker 1: should I be prepared to see oil prices go higher
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Speaker 1: than $ 5 a gallon?
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Speaker 2: Yes?
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Speaker 1: No? I mean, that's my initial thought when I'm reading
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Speaker 1: these headlines. And then you come back and say to yourself, okay,
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Speaker 1: if that's the situation, if that is what the current
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Speaker 1: situation is, how long do they expect the American people
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Speaker 1: to be able to tolerate this? I mean, I'm not
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Speaker 1: saying that's the reason why spirits went out of businesses
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Speaker 1: and airlines. They had other issues. But certainly the cost
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Speaker 1: of what you see as far as jet fuel is
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Speaker 1: concerned is astronomical. The price of it is through the roof.
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Speaker 1: So you don't think the ticket prices are going to
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Speaker 1: increase for anybody wanting to go on vacation or fly
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Speaker 1: to Florida somewhere? All right, the phone lines are now
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Speaker 1: back up. I'm told. So, okay, now you can call.
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Speaker 1: All right, thanks. 330-729-9977. 330-729-9977. So our phone lines were down.
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Speaker 1: We're having some, quite frankly, iHeart is not me, infrastructure
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Speaker 1: issues that are going on. So our phone lines are working.
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Speaker 1: Frank from Fort Lauderdale and Jake and the folks that
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Speaker 1: got disconnected, please feel free to call back and make
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Speaker 1: your points. And you as well. All of you. 330-729-9977. So,
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Speaker 1: the headlines don't look good is what I'm saying. The
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Speaker 1: Dow falling 500 points as oil jumps on fear. So,
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Speaker 1: if oil jumps, should I not anticipate oil prices going
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Speaker 1: up even more? I don't know. Seems to go hand
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Speaker 1: in hand. But I do know that it has a
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Speaker 1: devastating effect on everything. And they can't constantly say, when
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Speaker 1: it comes to elections, it's the economy, stupid. And it is.
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Speaker 1: And if people want to act like this isn't a
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Speaker 1: big deal, it's a very big deal. Whether it's here
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Speaker 1: this week or next week or the week after or
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Speaker 1: how long this goes on, it sucks a lot of
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Speaker 1: money out of your wallets and out of this economy
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Speaker 1: and creates a lot of inflation. And did the administration
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Speaker 1: misread Iran and how long this would take? Because I
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Speaker 1: honestly do believe they thought this would be over much
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Speaker 1: sooner than it is. And if they keep telling me
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Speaker 1: Iran wants to make a deal, wants to make a deal,
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Speaker 1: then why are we talking about doing another round of
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Speaker 1: bombing and this kind of stuff? I thought they wanted
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Speaker 1: to make a deal. Conflicting messages. You're on the air.
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Speaker 4: Hey, Ron, how you doing?
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Speaker 2: Good.
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Speaker 1: Your comments.
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Speaker 4: Hey, a little bit off topic, but I called you
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Speaker 4: a couple weeks ago about this morning with Gordon Deal.
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Speaker 4: Did you find out anything?
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Speaker 1: Frankly, I forgot all about it with the election going on.
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Speaker 4: Oh, that's all right. I'll touch on the topic you
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Speaker 4: were talking about today.
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Speaker 1: Another important topic, just as a side note to folks,
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Speaker 1: is tomorrow is Election Day, right? It's May 5th. So,
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Speaker 1: I mean, if people got some comments about the election,
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Speaker 1: because we have a lot of local elections that are
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Speaker 1: going on, if people have some input on any of
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Speaker 1: our races, give us a call as well. The time
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Speaker 1: is now. Go ahead, sir. I'm sorry.
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Speaker 4: That's all right. What you were talking about last week
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Speaker 4: with being critical of Trump, and I honestly believe you
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Speaker 4: should be more critical of who you vote for than
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Speaker 4: the person you didn't. And Because that is your right,
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Speaker 4: because you're trying to control the person that you wanted
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Speaker 4: in there in the first place. But if they go
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Speaker 4: off the handle, which I think he's going a little
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Speaker 4: bit off the handle, you have absolutely every right to
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Speaker 4: be critical of the guy. And usually Rich is spot
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Speaker 4: on with things, but I was very taken back by
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Speaker 4: him a little over a week ago. with a kind
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Speaker 4: of elitist attitude of, just wait it out, it's okay,
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Speaker 4: don't worry about it. No, people are really hurting out
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Speaker 4: there monetarily because of the price of gas and other
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Speaker 4: things that are still up from the Biden era.
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Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah, and you're correct, and people are saying, hey, Trump,
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Speaker 1: get back to the affordability issue and America first issue.
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Speaker 2: Exactly.
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Speaker 4: You ran on that platform to make our lives better,
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Speaker 4: and yet you still haven't done anything with Ukraine to
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Speaker 4: shut off all that money going there. You're dumping money
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Speaker 4: hand over fist to Iran to try to fight something
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Speaker 4: over there. What are you doing about America first?
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Speaker 1: I agree with that. I'm in total agreement with that.
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Speaker 1: America first affordability issue. I think is far more important
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Speaker 1: than the situation in Iran. I'm with you 100%. Thank you.
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Speaker 4: All right, you're on the air.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, just checking.
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Speaker 5: Everything's good up here in Rock Creek. I can hear
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Speaker 5: you loud and clear on the phone. But Iran is
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Speaker 5: all about money and nuclear power. And that gives you money.
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Speaker 5: It's a mafia running that country over there. And as
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Speaker 5: long as they got the money flowing... They're okay. They
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Speaker 5: can threaten nuclear all day, 7-24. But it's about power
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Speaker 5: and money and propaganda. But if you cut off their
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Speaker 5: money supply, they're going to fall. And that's what Donald's doing.
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Speaker 5: Donald is a genius. And our Secretary of Treasury is
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Speaker 5: a genius. And we won't even have to put boots
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Speaker 5: on the ground. You've just got to be patient. And
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Speaker 5: don't let those Democrats talk you different. Like that one
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Speaker 5: guy said, put a sock in it. Democrats, put a
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Speaker 5: sock in it. Donald knows what he's got. He's got
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Speaker 5: a great team behind him. This is amazing. This is
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Speaker 5: incredible what's going on in our country today, in our world.
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Speaker 5: Donald's going to change the whole design of the world
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Speaker 5: as far as power, economics, and less war. You just
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Speaker 5: got to hang in there. Don't let those Democrats give
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Speaker 5: you all that propaganda.
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Speaker 2: There he is.
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Speaker 1: The words of wisdom coming from Rock Creek.
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Speaker 5: We got a library levy up here. I don't know
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Speaker 5: what to vote for now. I just don't want them
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Speaker 5: to build a big Taj Mahal like they have down
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Speaker 5: in Louisville and Columbiana and stuff. But libraries are almost
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Speaker 5: a thing of the past.
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Speaker 1: Yes, they are.
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Speaker 5: It's more like a community center today than a library,
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Speaker 5: I think. But I'm struggling with it. I might not
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Speaker 5: just vote for it. Let the other people decide.
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Speaker 1: You better go out and vote against it. I appreciate
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Speaker 1: your call. You're on the air. Hey, Ron.
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Speaker 2: To respond to that gentleman two callers ago that said,
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Speaker 2: I don't care. No, I do care. I'm like everybody else.
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Speaker 2: I don't like paying five bucks a gallon.
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Speaker 1: No, but I think his point was you're in a
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Speaker 1: different income bracket as a lot of people, and this
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Speaker 1: idea of you're supposed to take it. Well, how long
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Speaker 1: are you supposed to take it? Because it's having a
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Speaker 1: devastating effect on a lot of business and individuals, whether
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Speaker 1: it's here now for a month or two months or whatever.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I like to get your assessment, and I
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Speaker 1: want to sit back and listen. I keep hearing, Ron
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Speaker 1: wants to make a deal. Ron wants to make a deal.
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Speaker 1: There is no deal. And it appears we're talking about
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Speaker 1: going back to bombing and stuff. Well, I thought Iran
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Speaker 1: wanted to make a deal. I thought we had them
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Speaker 1: right where we needed them. I mean, how long is
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Speaker 1: this supposed to go on with these headlines about where
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Speaker 1: I was just reading it? Dow falls 500 points as
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Speaker 1: oil jumps on fear of Iran conflict. So if oil
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Speaker 1: prices go up, you could go beyond $ 5 a gallon.
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Speaker 1: I mean, your assessment, please.
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Speaker 2: I think here's the problem in Iran. You've got people
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Speaker 2: that do want to make a deal. And I mean,
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Speaker 2: all of them.
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Speaker 1: Stand by. Just stand by. I want to come back
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Speaker 1: with your thoughts. Rich, the pharmacist, responds to it all.
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Speaker 1: When we come back after this, NewsRadio 570 WKBN. NewsRadio
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Speaker 1: 570 WKBN. He's been under a lot of attack today.
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Speaker 1: A lot of criticism from Rich, the pharmacist, from callers
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Speaker 1: and Ted, the conservative, and more today. But go ahead, Rich.
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Speaker 4: Okay.
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Speaker 2: Here's the problem you're running into in Iran. You're dealing
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Speaker 2: with a bunch of religious nut jobs. And like I
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Speaker 2: said before, there's two camps. There's one camp that just
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Speaker 2: doesn't care. They just want to kill everybody and go
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Speaker 2: meet all and get their 72 virgins. And you have
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Speaker 2: the other camp that still wants that, but they also
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Speaker 2: realize they have a country to run it. And so
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Speaker 2: they want to make a deal, but the problem is
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Speaker 2: the people that are controlling the guns and the power
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Speaker 2: are mostly the religious nutjobs. So as much as those
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Speaker 2: people want to make a deal, the other people aren't
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Speaker 2: going to let them make the deal. And the thing
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Speaker 2: that I think Trump, if I was going to criticize
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Speaker 2: him with anything on this, once again, you have to
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Speaker 2: look at history. When you're dealing with an enemy like this,
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Speaker 2: probably the closest analogy we would have would be the
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Speaker 2: Nazis in Germany and the Japanese government during World War II,
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Speaker 2: where no matter how much pain you inflicted on them,
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Speaker 2: if you look in both instances, they fought until their
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Speaker 2: countries were destroyed. In Germany's case, they fought until they
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Speaker 2: were literally completely overrun. Japan, finally, after the second nuke, said,
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Speaker 2: you know, we're going to bear the unbearable. and and
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Speaker 2: surrender but at that point they were they were still
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Speaker 2: beaten to a degree that we can't even comprehend today
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Speaker 2: and while five dollar a gallon gas is bad and
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Speaker 2: i don't like it my biggest fear is what what's
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Speaker 2: it going to do to the economy three six eight
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Speaker 2: months down the road uh... there are some pundits now
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Speaker 2: saying you know right now the stock market's been a
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Speaker 2: little exuberant on all mostly on this artificial intelligence stuff
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Speaker 2: And that's what's blowing it up. Plus, earnings reports and
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Speaker 2: stuff have been good. So, you know, it should, with
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Speaker 2: what's been going on with the Iran war, you would
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Speaker 2: think the market would be down 10 or 15%.
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Speaker 1: Well, it is down today. I mean, there is no
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Speaker 1: way that you can't tell me that this isn't affecting
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Speaker 1: the economy and spending. There is absolutely no way, even
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Speaker 1: in a short period of time, it is the main
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Speaker 1: thing I hear everybody bitching about on how expensive it
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Speaker 1: is to fill up their vehicle. And that money's got
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Speaker 1: to come from somewhere where they're not spending it somewhere else.
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Speaker 1: And I'm hearing it from business as well. Small business,
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Speaker 1: all types of businesses have raised their prices. They can't
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Speaker 1: absorb this.
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to argue that with you. I agree.
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Speaker 2: I can empathize with people that are hurting. It's not
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Speaker 2: that I don't feel for these people.
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Speaker 1: So do you think they're sitting there worried about Iran?
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Speaker 1: I mean, at any point do you criticize the Trump administration?
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Speaker 1: I will say it publicly. I think they thought this
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Speaker 1: would be over much sooner than it is. I think
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Speaker 1: they misread the entire thing. The backbone of Iran is say,
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Speaker 1: screw you. And I remember Iran saying, if you want
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Speaker 1: to destroy us and our economy, we can destroy you
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Speaker 1: and your economy too. But there's no question militarily, we're
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Speaker 1: doing a great job. There's no question about it at all.
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Speaker 1: But I don't understand the Iranian people. And I don't understand,
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Speaker 1: and it's a whole different culture from my culture, so
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Speaker 1: I don't have a read on them. But they keep
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Speaker 1: telling me, we got them right where we want them.
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Speaker 1: We got them right where we want them. But if
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Speaker 1: that's the case, why are we talking about bombing them
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Speaker 1: again if you got them right where you want them?
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Speaker 1: Why are you telling me there's a deal's imminent, they
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Speaker 1: want to make a deal? Why are you talking about
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Speaker 1: bombing them again if they want to make a deal?
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Speaker 1: What is the truth? It reminds me of Vietnam all
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Speaker 1: over again. What is the truth? How much do you
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Speaker 1: expect the American people to take of this, of $ 5 gasoline,
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Speaker 1: or higher since oil went up again today? I'd like
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Speaker 1: to get your comments. Just hang in there with me,
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Speaker 1: all right? I mean, I'm going to pick on Rich
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Speaker 1: the pharmacist when we come back after this. Stay tuned. Again,
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Speaker 1: News Radio 570. Go ahead with your thoughts overall. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I've given you mine. I mean, go ahead. These guys
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Speaker 1: could have misread a lot of this. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: understand they know more than I do, but they really
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Speaker 1: thought that this would end much sooner than it did.
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Speaker 1: And it's not ending. They keep talking every day. I
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Speaker 1: hear we got a deal. Where's the deal? And today
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Speaker 1: the market is down. It'll go up whenever there's a deal.
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Speaker 1: And this is a mess. And the economy is becoming
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Speaker 1: a mess in this country as a result of it.
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Speaker 2: Because you're not, it should be over. I mean, you
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Speaker 2: take a look at what we have done to that
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Speaker 2: country in the last two months. This is only two
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Speaker 2: months old. You know, if you look at wars before this,
21:39
Speaker 2: World War II, this is not a this is not
21:45
Speaker 2: a war second time.
21:47
Speaker 1: This was not meant to this was we don't want
21:50
Speaker 1: to be in the middle east we don't want to
21:51
Speaker 1: be in forever wars he ran on that so don't
21:53
Speaker 1: give me the war stuff like this should go on
21:55
Speaker 1: six months or a year if it does and we
21:58
Speaker 1: pay high gas prices at all time and ruin our
22:00
Speaker 1: economy like that's some justification for it they didn't go
22:04
Speaker 1: into it with that being the idea.
22:08
Speaker 2: I think they went into it thinking it would be
22:10
Speaker 2: over by now. And by all rights, if you were
22:12
Speaker 2: dealing with normal, rational people, it would be, but you're not. Now,
22:16
Speaker 2: listening to your news..
22:18
Speaker 1: Okay, but pause for a second. Pause for a second.
22:20
Speaker 1: But you don't understand them and their culture. You're thinking
22:24
Speaker 1: like that's how they should think. They don't think like you.
22:29
Speaker 1: I can only tell you from my oldest son who said,
22:33
Speaker 1: the first thing is, you don't understand them. You don't
22:36
Speaker 1: understand their thinking. You want to think that they think
22:38
Speaker 1: like you. They do not, he used to say. That's
22:42
Speaker 1: the first thing you need to understand.
22:44
Speaker 2: Ron, I've been saying that. That's exactly what I've been saying.
22:47
Speaker 2: You're not dealing with normal, rational people. The Arab world
22:51
Speaker 2: is totally foreign to the Western world. We have virtually
22:56
Speaker 2: nothing in common with them. Different rule of law, different everything. But,
23:01
Speaker 2: I mean, you would think a normal, rational country would
23:04
Speaker 2: have capitulated by now, but they're not, and I just
23:06
Speaker 2: said that. You know, that said, we're only two months in.
23:09
Speaker 2: One of the encouraging things that I just heard on
23:11
Speaker 2: your news break was that they actually escorted and have
23:14
Speaker 2: a lane cleared to get ships out. If you start
23:18
Speaker 2: seeing them move ships out of the Strait of Hormuz
23:21
Speaker 2: while at the same time blocking Iran in so they
23:23
Speaker 2: can't do anything, at that point, The war may go
23:28
Speaker 2: on for a while, but it's only hurting Iran because
23:31
Speaker 2: you're going to start to see traffic move out of
23:33
Speaker 2: the street again and hopefully start to give us some
23:35
Speaker 2: relief on this.
23:37
Speaker 1: Well, some of these people say, well, it's not going
23:39
Speaker 1: to just hurt Iran. It's going to hurt China with
23:42
Speaker 1: its oil. It's going to hurt India.
23:43
Speaker 2: Good.
23:44
Speaker 1: No, let me finish. It's going to create starvation in
23:49
Speaker 1: Africa because of fertilizer. And those problems are going to
23:53
Speaker 1: cause an oil guy that I was reading over the
23:57
Speaker 1: weekend says, you've got a problem with an oil shortage.
24:01
Speaker 1: That's what your problem is. And you're going to see
24:03
Speaker 1: the cost of oil continue to go up. So you
24:06
Speaker 1: can say, good, good, but it's not good if it
24:08
Speaker 1: means you're paying $ 5. 50 or $ 6 a gallon.
24:12
Speaker 2: If they start getting oil out of the Gulf, if
24:15
Speaker 2: they can start to get those big super tankers moving
24:18
Speaker 2: and start getting oil delivered the way it was, even
24:22
Speaker 2: to 50% of what it was before the war, you're
24:24
Speaker 2: going to see oil come down. There's plenty of oil
24:27
Speaker 2: in the world. Before this, why do you think prices
24:30
Speaker 2: were so low before?
24:31
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. Why are they so high now?
24:35
Speaker 2: Because 20% of the world's oil hasn't left in the
24:39
Speaker 2: last two months.
24:40
Speaker 1: But about the other 80%.
24:43
Speaker 2: Well, the other 80% is being shared now. It's supply
24:46
Speaker 2: and demand. Go back to economics. This is simple macroeconomics.
24:52
Speaker 2: As supply goes down, price goes up. As supply goes up,
24:56
Speaker 2: price goes down. So if supply starts to come back on,
24:59
Speaker 2: if they can start to get a lot of these
25:01
Speaker 2: big tankers moving and start delivering oil to the rest
25:04
Speaker 2: of the world, that means the Europeans aren't going to
25:07
Speaker 2: be sending tankers over to our country to buy it.
25:09
Speaker 2: They're not going to be sending tankers over to Brazil
25:11
Speaker 2: and Venezuela to buy it.
25:12
Speaker 1: Well, what's the time frame?
25:14
Speaker 2: They're going to start getting it out of the Middle East.
25:16
Speaker 1: That's all well and good, but when?
25:19
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, today they just said on your
25:21
Speaker 2: news break that today they were able to get a
25:23
Speaker 2: lane open and cleared so that they can get it out.
25:27
Speaker 2: whether those boats are going to risk it. I mean,
25:30
Speaker 2: if I'm a Greek tanker owner and I own a
25:32
Speaker 2: billion-dollar boat, I'm probably not going to be the first
25:34
Speaker 2: guy to take a boat loaded with a million, two
25:38
Speaker 2: million barrels of oil, whatever they hold, through the strait
25:42
Speaker 2: and have Iran hit it somehow. But if they can
25:45
Speaker 2: establish that this lane is clear and if they can
25:48
Speaker 2: start to move traffic through it, you're going to start
25:50
Speaker 2: to see relief from this. The converse of that is,
25:54
Speaker 2: if the Iranians are able to start hitting boats and
25:56
Speaker 2: they can't get things moving, it's going to keep going up.
26:00
Speaker 2: And you just don't know. Right now, you would think
26:04
Speaker 2: the United States, with its military superiority, should be able
26:07
Speaker 2: to open that strait. And if they do and they
26:10
Speaker 2: start to get stuff moving, I think you'll start to
26:12
Speaker 2: see some relief. But once again, it's not going to
26:15
Speaker 2: be overnight.
26:16
Speaker 1: Do you think the United States military is going to
26:22
Speaker 1: be there forever to do this? Because at some point
26:28
Speaker 1: they're going to leave. I mean, keep in mind, Iran
26:31
Speaker 1: is saying that. I'm just trying to say what the
26:34
Speaker 1: other side is saying. They're saying sooner or later you're
26:36
Speaker 1: going to leave. And that's true.
26:38
Speaker 2: Well, maybe it's time. I think one of the other
26:41
Speaker 2: things that, you know, right now Saudi Arabia and UAE
26:44
Speaker 2: are both exporting a decent amount of oil through the
26:47
Speaker 2: Red Sea. They've got pipelines that go over there. That's
26:50
Speaker 2: why it isn't worse, actually, because there's still some oil
26:54
Speaker 2: getting out of the Middle East. I think long term,
26:58
Speaker 2: a year or two from now, you're going to see
27:00
Speaker 2: pipelines built through Iraq into Turkey to get into Europe.
27:03
Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you people are not going to
27:05
Speaker 1: put up with this crap a year or two from now.
27:08
Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you, I think.
27:13
Speaker 2: By this fall you're going to see, and this is
27:16
Speaker 2: a big if, if they can get this trade open,
27:19
Speaker 2: by August, September, you're going to see gas prices back
27:22
Speaker 2: down in probably the three, three and a quarter, 375
27:27
Speaker 2: a gallon range, depending upon how much oil they can
27:30
Speaker 2: start to float out of there. It's simple supply and demand.
27:35
Speaker 1: I understand that. Here's simple supply and demand. This is
27:38
Speaker 1: affecting the American economy right now. Period. I don't care
27:45
Speaker 1: about a month from now or two months from now.
27:47
Speaker 1: Right now, it's affecting it. At $ 5 a gallon or
27:52
Speaker 1: at $ 4. 85.
27:56
Speaker 2: This is that sign when you have little kids and
27:57
Speaker 2: you go into a..
27:58
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. I'm just trying to give you..
28:01
Speaker 2: We broke it.
28:02
Speaker 1: We broke it.
28:03
Speaker 2: Right. Now we've got to own it and fix it.
28:09
Speaker 2: So you can see we can bellyache about it all
28:11
Speaker 2: day long. And I agree. I'm not trying to minimize
28:16
Speaker 2: the pain people are.
28:16
Speaker 1: Listen, I will be. Listen, I voted for Trump. I
28:20
Speaker 1: vote for him again. The good far outweighs the bad.
28:23
Speaker 1: But it's a fair discussion to say, was this a
28:24
Speaker 1: mistake from the very beginning? Well, that's to be debated
28:28
Speaker 1: after this is concluded, because you're in it right now.
28:31
Speaker 1: You're in it at this point in time. But I
28:34
Speaker 1: think it's a fair conclusion, and you agree, they misread
28:37
Speaker 1: this situation. They thought it would be over much sooner
28:40
Speaker 1: than it has been, and it isn't. I think they.
28:45
Speaker 2: Both thought it would be over. I don't think, I
28:47
Speaker 2: think from a lot of the stuff I've read on
28:49
Speaker 2: the military, they gave, they told him, look, you know,
28:52
Speaker 2: when we go in.
28:53
Speaker 1: Well, Trump's calling the shots.
28:54
Speaker 2: They're going to close the strait. And he gambled. He
28:57
Speaker 2: rolled the dice and he gambled. And, you know, this
29:00
Speaker 2: time it didn't work for him. At least so far.
29:06
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is long term, I think this probably
29:09
Speaker 2: will work out to our advantage long term.
29:12
Speaker 1: Short term, it sucks.
29:13
Speaker 2: Short term, it sucks. There's no other way to say it.
29:16
Speaker 1: And what's short term? I think if people said, okay,
29:20
Speaker 1: let's see, May 15th, everything's starting to get, the market's
29:26
Speaker 1: going back up, oil prices are coming back down, we
29:28
Speaker 1: see relief coming. But There's no sign of that. I mean,
29:35
Speaker 1: are you the least bit concerned that you're constantly hearing
29:38
Speaker 1: they want to make a deal, they want to make
29:39
Speaker 1: a deal? and there's no deal?
29:42
Speaker 2: No, that's because that's the way those people are. Not
29:44
Speaker 2: only that, when they make the deal, they lie. The
29:48
Speaker 2: Iranian foreign minister said the street is open. And then
29:52
Speaker 2: the other people that actually control the guns said, no,
29:54
Speaker 2: it isn't. So in one day, oil went down, what
29:58
Speaker 2: was it, $ 10, $ 12 a barrel. two, three weeks ago
30:01
Speaker 2: when they said it was open for a day. And
30:04
Speaker 2: then the very next day it was closed because the
30:07
Speaker 2: people who control the guns said, we're not agreeing to this.
30:11
Speaker 2: And they closed it down again. They threatened ships. You're
30:17
Speaker 2: not dealing with rational people, but... No, you're dealing..
30:22
Speaker 1: You keep saying that. You're dealing with their culture. They
30:26
Speaker 1: don't think you're rational. Stop trying to say you're not
30:30
Speaker 1: dealing with rational people. That's who they are. You knew
30:33
Speaker 1: that going in there. It's a whole different culture. Stop
30:39
Speaker 1: saying you're not dealing with rational people. They don't think
30:42
Speaker 1: you're rational. They think, who are you to tell us
30:47
Speaker 1: we can't have a nuclear weapon? This is our country.
30:49
Speaker 1: We're 93 million people. Who the hell are you to
30:52
Speaker 1: tell us that? And they think, you think you want
30:55
Speaker 1: to do that to us? We'll do this to you.
30:57
Speaker 1: Who was it? Was it Robert Kennedy or John F.
31:00
Speaker 1: Kennedy that said, you better understand the enemies, where the
31:04
Speaker 1: enemy's coming from when you get into these situations. You
31:07
Speaker 1: better understand what their mindset is.
31:11
Speaker 2: And that would be fine if we were studying going
31:14
Speaker 2: to war with Iran now.
31:15
Speaker 1: You're in a war with them right now.
31:17
Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton, at this point, what difference does it make?
31:20
Speaker 2: Because you're in the war.
31:21
Speaker 1: Well, because..
31:22
Speaker 2: You can go through the coulda, shoulda, woulda, but right
31:24
Speaker 2: now we're in it. you're going to have to persevere
31:28
Speaker 2: and get through it. Because the worst thing you could
31:31
Speaker 2: do right now would be to just pull out and
31:33
Speaker 2: just say, you know what, we're going home. Because at
31:36
Speaker 2: that point, then Iran does control the strait. They start
31:38
Speaker 2: charging a million or two million dollars about tariffs, which generates,
31:43
Speaker 2: I forget what it was, 50 or 100 billion dollars
31:45
Speaker 2: a year for them.
31:47
Speaker 1: And how come they didn't do that before the war?
31:54
Speaker 2: I don't think they realized how much money they could
31:56
Speaker 2: actually make if they controlled the Strait. Plus, they probably
31:58
Speaker 2: figured nobody's going to let them control the Strait.
32:01
Speaker 1: So did we create a monster?
32:05
Speaker 2: No, I mean, the monster is atrophying. The monster is
32:09
Speaker 2: in a death by the Strait right now. We're just
32:11
Speaker 2: waiting for it to die.
32:12
Speaker 1: Okay, when the American ships leave, who will control the Strait?
32:19
Speaker 2: That's almost more of a world issue than a U.S.
32:21
Speaker 2: issue or a Gulf issue. Maybe the Arab countries need
32:23
Speaker 2: to start hiring some people or developing their own navy
32:26
Speaker 2: and resources to do it. I don't know. I don't think,
32:30
Speaker 2: like I've said, when this is all said and done,
32:33
Speaker 2: I'm for basically just bringing everybody home. from everywhere they
32:36
Speaker 2: were at, and just disengaging from most of the rest
32:38
Speaker 2: of the world. Because I don't think it is our
32:41
Speaker 2: job to be the world policeman anymore. I'm tired of it.
32:44
Speaker 2: I'm tired of losing American lives. I'm tired of spending
32:48
Speaker 2: American money. And I'm tired of doing that, and then
32:52
Speaker 2: the rest of the world still can't stand us. So
32:56
Speaker 2: just the heck with them. Let Europe worry about Europe
32:58
Speaker 2: if Putin invades and takes them over. I really don't
33:01
Speaker 2: care at this point. They almost deserve it because they're
33:03
Speaker 2: a bunch of... with their arrogance. It's their oil. The
33:08
Speaker 2: oil that comes out of that Gulf mostly goes to Europe,
33:11
Speaker 2: and yet they won't lift a finger.
33:15
Speaker 1: I hear you saying that, but on the other hand,
33:19
Speaker 1: they say, but you're paying $ 5 a gallon because it's
33:21
Speaker 1: a global market. So when you say it's only 20%
33:25
Speaker 1: of the oil and it's their oil, yeah, but look
33:28
Speaker 1: at what's happening to your price.
33:31
Speaker 2: Well, because they're sending tankers over here to buy my
33:33
Speaker 2: oil now. That's the problem. So that's what's driving our
33:36
Speaker 2: price up. Like I said, through 2016, from I think
33:40
Speaker 2: it was 1974 to 2016, you couldn't export American oil.
33:45
Speaker 2: If you just put that law back in, even temporarily,
33:47
Speaker 2: if you said, well, we're going to do it until
33:49
Speaker 2: this war ends itself, our price would drop overnight. It
33:53
Speaker 2: would plummet. And the rest of the world would skyrocket.
33:57
Speaker 1: Right, but in 1974, we stopped exporting oil. When you say...
34:06
Speaker 1: I forget what you said about their culture. Would you
34:09
Speaker 1: say that the caller that called attacking you that said,
34:12
Speaker 1: you don't understand his situation because you make a lot
34:15
Speaker 1: more money than he does and the effect this is
34:18
Speaker 1: having on him. He said, basically, that caller was saying,
34:22
Speaker 1: you don't understand his culture, his situation in America as
34:28
Speaker 1: your fellow American.
34:31
Speaker 2: This isn't the first energy crisis.
34:33
Speaker 1: No, but he's saying you can weather it much better,
34:35
Speaker 1: these increase, because you make a lot of money. He's
34:38
Speaker 1: saying he's just your.
34:41
Speaker 2: Bag of donuts. I don't have the expenses I used
34:43
Speaker 2: to have. I'm old. If you look at where the
34:46
Speaker 2: money comes from, it's mostly with the older people.
34:48
Speaker 1: He's talking about your income as a pharmacist versus his
34:52
Speaker 1: as a worker.
34:54
Speaker 2: And like I said, I emphasize with people. I work
34:57
Speaker 2: with people who don't make anywhere near the money I
34:59
Speaker 2: make that are hurting. that they drive every day and
35:03
Speaker 2: they're paying the $ 4. 50, $ 5 a gallon gas. I don't,
35:08
Speaker 2: I anymore wonder how people actually are able to live
35:12
Speaker 2: their lives.
35:13
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, think of the cost of this.
35:19
Speaker 1: Think of like, for example, just school systems refilling their
35:22
Speaker 1: diesel tanks up for their school buses and how much
35:25
Speaker 1: more that costs. Think about farmers, how much more that costs.
35:30
Speaker 1: to run those diesel tractors. Think about trucking companies, how
35:33
Speaker 1: much more that's costing. Think about regular gas, how much
35:37
Speaker 1: that's costing Amazon to deliver your package or people that
35:41
Speaker 1: have to drive distances to work and back. This is
35:45
Speaker 1: an immediate effect. This isn't, oh, it's no big deal.
35:49
Speaker 1: This is an immediate effect on the economy. And it's
35:54
Speaker 1: hopefully going to go down.
35:56
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and I understand that, but the point is
36:00
Speaker 2: we're in the middle of this. There's nothing you can
36:02
Speaker 2: do but to finish it at this point. The fastest
36:05
Speaker 2: way to get it back down is to finish it
36:08
Speaker 2: as quickly as you can. You can't go back. The
36:11
Speaker 2: decision was made to do it. You can armchair quarterback
36:15
Speaker 2: and second guess all you want. It's over and done with.
36:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, one of the things I thought an interesting
36:20
Speaker 1: observation for the G2 made is When is Scott going?
36:24
Speaker 1: He says, well, you better be careful it doesn't finish
36:26
Speaker 1: Trump's presidency with the midterms.
36:30
Speaker 2: I think we were in trouble with the midterms anyway.
36:34
Speaker 1: But the American first agenda and affordability and everything, remember
36:38
Speaker 1: that was what G2' s biggest concern was, taking your eye
36:41
Speaker 1: off the ball, affordability, getting prices down. That's what you
36:45
Speaker 1: were elected on, securing the border. You weren't elected on
36:49
Speaker 1: this situation you created with Iran. Richard Farmacist taking a
36:54
Speaker 1: lot of heat today from callers, Richard. They're coming after you.
36:57
Speaker 2: Take care, Ron.
36:58
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Speaker 3: Ron, would you like to know what Iran is thinking?
39:04
Speaker 2: Yes.
39:06
Speaker 5: I will enlighten you.
39:07
Speaker 1: Good! They watch..
39:10
Speaker 3: They watch the same news you and I do. They're
39:14
Speaker 3: listening to Democrats in our media whine and cry about
39:19
Speaker 3: the war, and they know that there's that 60-day deadline
39:23
Speaker 3: that just expired, and if they can just hold out
39:26
Speaker 3: a little bit longer, Congress is going to make Trump stop.
39:30
Speaker 3: And then they can go right back to business as usual.
39:35
Speaker 1: Okay, is that what they're thinking?
39:37
Speaker 3: That's what they're thinking. And if it gets worse enough..
39:41
Speaker 1: Stand by. Stand by. Let me do my headlines. I
39:43
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39:45
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Speaker 8: I'm Lindsay Davis, anchor of Prime, streaming weeknights on ABC
39:58
Speaker 8: News Live. President Trump says the war in Iran is
40:01
Speaker 8: going very well, despite the United Arab Emirates saying it's
40:04
Speaker 8: been intercepting significant fire from Iran today.
40:07
Speaker 1: They have no navy, they have no air force, they
40:10
Speaker 1: have no anti-aircraft equipment. They have no radar. They have
40:15
Speaker 1: no nothing. They have no leaders, actually.
40:17
Speaker 8: Increased hostilities have put pressure on an already fragile ceasefire
40:20
Speaker 8: in the region as the U.S. military begins escorting commercial
40:23
Speaker 8: ships through the Strait of Hormuz. ABC's Louis Martinez.
40:26
Speaker 9: The effort here is to provide a defensive shield. And
40:28
Speaker 9: to that point earlier today, we understand that the United
40:32
Speaker 9: States military brought down some drones, brought down some cruise missiles.
40:36
Speaker 9: and destroyed some six small Iranian craft that were targeting
40:41
Speaker 9: commercial shipping.
40:43
Speaker 8: It's all put increased pressure on gas prices, with the
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Speaker 8: average price for a barrel of Brent crude up nearly 6%
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Speaker 8: today to close at its highest level since the summer
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Speaker 8: of 2022. And economist Joe Bruce Welles says the increased
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Speaker 8: fuel costs are just the beginning.
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Speaker 6: Those increasing gasoline prices cause everything that needs to be
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Speaker 6: delivered to get more expensive. And guess where it's going
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Speaker 6: to show up most clearly?
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Speaker 1: It's going to be in food.
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Speaker 8: Cole Allen was in court today. He's the California man
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Speaker 8: accused of trying to assassinate President Trump at the White
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Speaker 8: House Correspondents Center last month.
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Speaker 10: This hearing was called by Cole Allen's defense attorneys because
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Speaker 10: he was put on suicide watch inside California.
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Speaker 7: These D.C.
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Speaker 10: Corrections facilities. Now, he was ultimately taken off suicide watch,
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Speaker 10: but the prosecutor for the government at least said in
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Speaker 10: court that in his writings that he sent to family
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Speaker 10: before attempting to carry out that attack, that he made
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Speaker 10: it seem like he would not survive the attack, noting
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Speaker 10: that that would be a reason to keep him on
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Speaker 10: suicide watch.
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Speaker 8: ABC's Catherine Falders and Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni have
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Speaker 8: agreed to settle their legal dispute over alleged abuse that
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Speaker 8: took place on the set of the movie It Ends
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