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Themes, Not Plot: Rust Shooting, Dune Review & Indy 5 Delayed · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  I'm back I lived so sorry you're stuck with my
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  voice welcome to multiple
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  nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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  Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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  Things nerdy went in for surgery I'm out of
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  surgery yeah and I'm walking around which I'm not sure if I'm allowed to yet
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  what what would be the consequences if you weren't allowed to and you were
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  doing it well I have been known to in the past when I was younger do a lot of
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  stuff that I wasn't meant to do well on crutches like play handball and soccer
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  and stuff like that are there a lot of handball games in your life currently
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  not not at the moment no but what would happen when I was younger I've done a
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  thing where I've snapped screws and things and broken things that I
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  shouldn't been able to break cuz I was a bit too active on it still play you in
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  your jock days yes do kids still play hand I hope so no they're too busy on
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  their phones and handball mean the same thing anywhere else in the world that's
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  a thing I'm curious I know it doesn't mean it at the Olympics cuz when I heard
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  there was handball at the Olympics I was like I could I could go to the Olympics
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  for that I'm brilliant at this game it's not the handball we play no it's not
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  they don't call the Olympic handball and someone goes I'm Ace you're King you're
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  Queen you're dunce dunce yeah I think that should be an event though AB that
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  would make so much more sense to the event they have there oh yeah I don't
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  get because in in that handall you can actually buy it to play on the Xbox it's
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  made by blue ant studio so it's actually made in Australia there you go Matt
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  that's what kids do now they play handball on the Xbox you can buy I don't
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  think they do you can buy penth High School handball on
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  Xbox no International oh it's the actual H so what you're telling me is there's a gap
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  in the market there is a huge gap in the market and I say this is our game the game
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  we've been talking about for a long time SP has a BL I mean this is not what I
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  expected our game was going to be well there was another game where used to
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  play Matt at your school cuz we actually we went to different high schools Luke
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  and I went to to one you went to another M did you have a game at your high
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  school called bum buum don't this is not a this is notti
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  I'm literally asking you you had this game I remember this game I don't know I
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  don't remember a game called bum what what how does you may have had a version
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  of it or you may not have more so older kids imagine handball you you can play
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  it with a with a tennis ball but you need a wall you play it against a wall
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  it's every man for himself you throw the it's almost like squash actually now
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  that I think of it you throw the ball at the wall it's got to hit on the fall and
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  bounce back if if it bounces before you catch it mhm you've got to get to the
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  wall before somebody throws the ball so You' got to touch the wall before the
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  ball does if you don't you get B right mhm happens twice you get bu happens
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  three times you get bu M and you're against the wall and everyone has a free
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  shot at your ass with the ball with the ball with the
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  ball I'm pretty sure we did have that I don't think I ever played it cuz I'm not
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  maybe Carl brought it to your school from our school that's possible the
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  link between your world and ours yeah cuz I yeah I went to a senior school and
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  some people that went to school with Luke and Dan came to my senior school
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  and it all got mixed up in that sense that's how I met that's how I met where
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  are those people now yeah I'm doing some of them doing great things oh yeah no no
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  no I don't I mean why aren't they on this podcast I don't mean that they're
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  all [ __ ] let's invite them where are they now look at us mhm
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  yeah well Carl's a community leader now so you know I know yeah which is still
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  just so weird cuz I went to school with him and was banned from my house blew
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  all of our mind you see the change when he was growing up he was that sort of
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  pushing the boundaries all the time and then he just sort of started to lean
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  straighter and actually sort of became respected pushing the boundaries is is a
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  nice way of phrase that's not how my mother would have phrased it when she
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  was telling me he wasn't allowed over anymore no I think it was when he got to
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  like a year 11 and 12 that he really it research he had to become the enemy in
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  order to fight the enemy when he got older do you think he went through some
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  kind of hero's journey to become the man he is you know like he crossed the
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  threshold he went down into the proverbial hell and fought the devil and
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  then came back changed yeah like what's that what's that Christian book run baby
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  run Bible you remember that book I don't know about run baby run Matt it's called
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  you're going to have to you're going to have to fill us in
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  is the baby baby Jesus no no no no no run baby run is it like spot what the hell Run Spot
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  Run no uh run baby run yeah it's a it's
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  a book Nikki Cruz he was some um New York gang leader who became like a born-
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  again Christian and he wrote a book and then it went it went around my SCH
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  warning babies to get out of his way it it went around my school because it was
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  like the first three qus of the book is just about guy's really [ __ ] violent
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  like sexual life in as a gang leader and and but but the end the moral of the
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  story is it becomes a born again Christian so but because but that's on
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  the last page but I don't do that stuff anymore because it was a Christian book
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  I guess we were allowed to have it but it was like what a
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  great great salesman that we were really we loved it we had a book going around
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  our school too didn't we l yeah Cindy's first love upset about that
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  you're a little bit different to yours and I don't think she becomes a
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  Christian at the end oh she does not she does not less said about that book the
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  better doesn't even exist on the internet and I've looked look we've got
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  a lot of uh there's a lot of news this week a lot of news this week there is a
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  lot of news we've got some followup should we start there yeah for sure or
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  should we start with the elephant in the room El shooting into the crew there's a
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  couple of things people are expecting to talk about I bet yeah we should proba do
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  you want to start with Al Baldwin Jesus
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  Christ what a [ __ ] disaster the people are there's going to be criminal
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  charges over this not for him hopefully reading today know not for him as an
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  actor possibly for him as a producer so all of the newspaper articles are being
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  very very vague on this so I kind of trolled some industry forums to see if I
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  could find out as much information as I could and there are three additional
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  factors that are being left out of a lot of Articles number one is that there
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  were two gun mishaps previous to this particular gun mishap right which should
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  never happen there's always meant to be an armor on set there's only two people
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  are allowed to touch a gun on set even a painted up water pistol the armorer and
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  the actor who the script says can handle it and the armor hands it to them before
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  the take they hand it back straight after this was not the case evidently
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  whoever was closest to the gun was just grabbing it passing yeah it's fine yeah
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  in this particular instance it was first ad who just grabbed the gun off the
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  table brought it over to Alec and said here you go secondly the crew had walked out 6
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  hours before this because they were being overworked yeah and they said
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  camera cameramen w we walked out saying that overworked that they'll referen the
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  gun and how it's so unsafe and yep there was a text message after the second
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  misfire from one crew member to another that somebody's posted up on Reddit that
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  says that's the second stray gunshot on this set this place is unsafe so and
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  evidently they had put in like an official Complaint as well apparently
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  because of Co they're concerned they're going to shut down production again and
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  so this is shut down now it down I know I know that but apparently this is not
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  the only set that's having issues because they're just trying to rush and
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  they don't have have they have time for safety precautions
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  which is just not no yeah cuz that leads to this one
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  thing that's annoying me throughout all of this they keep referring to it as a
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  prop gun it's not a prop gun from what I hear it's not a prop gun no it's a it's
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  a real firearm that's just been loaded with blanks but there's different types
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  of blanks types of blanks and even blanks there is that risk that still it won't break
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  up especially close this was not a blank round this was not a blank like why was
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  it why was that how do you why was there a live round on set anywhere well yeah I
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  mean sometimes you need to fire at something um yeah no no I get that you
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  want to get a shot of the gun shooting a thing and you would do that under
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  careful condition you don't need entire crew there for those shots that's a and
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  take the rounds out of the gun when you're done for [ __ ] sake yeah well I
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  mean not only that this was evidently not during a take it was during a
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  rehearsal I've read one account that said
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  even rehearsal of the scene wasck but
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  others toate that could I could see that they weren't filming cuz I know you said
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  like they walked off 6 hours beforehand what I was seeing is they' walked off 30
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  minutes before this had happened and if the crews aren't there to film and
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  you're a bit bored and gun I read I mean [ __ ] knows what's true with all this
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  going around but I read that the crew had walked off so they had been replaced
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  with people from a local film school yeah with nonunion SCS they were still
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  experienced oh God that's look at the end of this it's going to be criminal
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  charges there there has to be this is a completely preventable death mhm yeah
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  that's that's true awful and and and someone's getting sued and I just I feel
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  so bad for him because yeah maybe he you know he Bears he didn't no matter what
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  he did wrong he didn't mean to shoot anyone of course but then also at the
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  end of the day he knows of the issues that were having on set cuz it was his
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  bodyguard his double that had fired off the earlier Shots by accident I believe
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  he ends so he knew that was he and the dop who unfortunately he he killed were
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  part of the the voice to you know promote safety they were they were
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  trying to say this is not acceptable but he still went ahead with the shoot so as
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  in the the the film shoot not the not the so it's going to be very interesting
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  to see what comes of this but there's going to be manslaughter charges there
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  has to be yeah [ __ ] crimes you're going
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  down you'll pay for what you've done yeah mhm and just like uh what's that
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  eagle on that switch game that you guys play legal
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  eagle uh Phoenix Right Phoenix Phoenix Right Phoenix right that's it it's not
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  an e phen actually an e Dan just for the record sure I mean his name is Phoenix
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  and he's a okay he's not he a cartoon human yeah okay got it got it got it but
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  in the spirit of of him of Phoenix W um if Alec Baldwin wants to get off he's
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  going to have to find someone else to blame yeah he's going to have to
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  investigate who it actually was yeah yeah cuz at the moment it is him yeah
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  yeah what I thought was interesting is that um the estate of Brandon Lee
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  immediately um tweeted in response to this and was like yeah this sucks
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  doesn't it not in those they lovely but just the fact that they
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  weigh when origin happened to BR lead it was that whole thing they brought in
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  rules and everything and then what it be 40 30 years later and same thing happens
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  yeah yeah that was another mishandling too because it was just two different
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  types of blanks loaded one after the other one with a with a live round
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  without any charge and then one with a charge but no round but one plus the
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  other equals a real bullet yeah no this horrible I wouldn't wish this on anybody
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  I mean some of the some of the takes on the internet are just gross I think
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  there's a lot Alec Baldwin pissed off a lot of people with his uh sat out live
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  appearances in the last did he few years yeah he you know and all that kind of
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  stuff and so there's some I've seen some I mean yeah come on come on guys
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  Jesus you know had sat Night Live on the other the other day I think she was just
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  watching it cuz Kim Kardashian was Co was was guest hosting um which was a
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  hilarious experience just cultural phenomenon but um so I kind of was in
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  the room and I and I caught the opening
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  titles and I didn't know a single person
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  I definitely don't I haven't for a long time I thought I'd know someone I knew
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  nobody no I saw cuz also it's not something you
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  really watch here in the no it's not something I've ever watched but I I know
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  that there was the Bill Murray Dan arroy era you know and then there was the uh
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  and then there was the that that's it no what's that no there was the second wave
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  what's the guy from Billy Madison Adam Sandler Adam Sandler that that era yeah
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  yeah that's right and then there was like the Christ wig Bill hater
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  era Sandberg yeah yeah but now these guys never heard of them never heard of
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  any of them some some guy El musk was on there I did see
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  a you think when um you know the he and Grimes have broken up sadly MH someone
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  said do you think Grimes was rewatching the Saturday Night Live episode and the
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  warrior sketch came on she was like you know what I don't love
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  him no I I will in in defense of not knowing anyone on there I will admit I
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  never knew anyone on there until they got famous after it yeah you could their
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  own movies and that's when start to go know who they are and I only ever
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  watched Satur Night Live in like one sketch at a time when somebody was like
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  oh you got to watch this uh you don't have recognition because it's different
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  people each one and so yeah I think that's might be play to it a little
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  bit cuz yeah Adam Sandler I didn't know of him from sat Night Live Until Billy
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  Madison came out and it was oh yeah he started there and then after Billy
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  Madison was out or Happy Gilmore uh as well I only knew him because David
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  downloaded a whole bunch of songs about like goats and stuff tall gos
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  and that's right God I remember his albums now yeah like only people who
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  were into like that kind of Comedy for about 2 years in the late very late '
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  90s are going to know even what we're talking about well we discussed the one
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  thing that people were expecting what was the other uh there's a movie that
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  came out and uh I mean I saw it I don't know anyone else on this podcast has
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  seen it yet I saw I've got tickets to go and see it in six weeks I wondered if
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  Dan I wondered if you'd watched it cuz you said you were going to and then you
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  didn't say anything so I wondered if you were just holding back on that I watched
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  it we're talking about you know what Dune I'm never going back to the movies
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  again from what I have heard from what I have heard is it has
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  my favorite scene in the movie it does the only scene I know I couldn't help
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  but think of you during scene literally I literally smiled when when that when
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  that scene happened yeah it's not even a spoiler it's just it's just a scene that
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  happens in the movie listeners don't yeah you know not going to ruin anything
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  no and for listeners who don't know what we're talking about Luke has only read
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  the first page of the book so he he only knows that one scene but he's read it
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  several times because he's he knows he he knows he will like June if he just reads
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  past get past that first
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  page uh I really like this okay yeah
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  yeah me too I really liked it I did the opposite of watching it at home I went
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  and saw it in on the biggest screen that was available to me in the state which
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  was the IM projected onto the moon yeah
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  and uh I mean this film warranted it I
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  think [ __ ] hell oh I can imagine Yeah Yeah couple of couple of shots in
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  particular I'm thinking I would have been just glorious yeah yeah there a lot
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  of uh lot of long shots of just
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  spaceships doing stuff that I was like this is [ __ ] great I mean we can come
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  back to this but the production design and the cinematography and this this
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  this movie is pure Cinema it is the amalgam of a great story which we knew
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  already coupled with great cinematography great set and costume
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  design great music and and and just a a really seasoned director helming it and
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  and bringing it all together this is just this is a [ __ ] movie yeah but
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  but but but the question I go back to is is that what people care about anymore I
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  I think this is maybe like right um yeah I've put an article in here that there's
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  been a lot of talk that that they're going to be doing the second one like
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  well look I mean I hope so because confirmed even though I knew this was
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  only going to be the first half of the first book I was still shocked that it
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  ended when it did I know I know and then I knew it was coming too because there's
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  a character says something that it's not a spoiler someone someone says a line
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  that's kind of like we're wrapping up here that's a story for another time
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  yeah exactly kind of thing and then and I was like oh [ __ ] is this where they're
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  finishing off and then it was like directed by new villain I was like oh
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  [ __ ] off so so it ended on a bit of a cliffhanger I wouldn't call it a
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  cliffhanger it just just oh when it's starting to just ramp up to get that
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  little bit more that's when you I want more it's not a happy movie I guess is
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  and and it never really there isn't an ending the car one character says to the
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  other let's let's go and then the credits roll like cuz what the what I'm
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  sort of relating it back to is remember Capra yes you watch the entire thing and
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  then it gets to the last episode it goes on the next season it's exactly these
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  amazing stuff that's starting to go there's a bit of that drag you in more
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  and then there's oh yeah it's been literally that because there's a lot of
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  like they show you something something happens and then and like the characters
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  are watching it and then we're like they're like oh that's a thing and it's
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  like next time on do there's literally a thing like that
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  no I look I it comes out December here it's two months away I couldn't do it I
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  figured [ __ ] it I got the the Sony braier it's 4K I've got good speakers
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  but it's not the way that but honestly I don't feel like my experience was
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  compromised I know I had I had a so I I don't know cuz I hate the I've ranted on
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  this podcast I hate the C experience now people are [ __ ] in the in the cinema
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  now and I I'm happy to just watch it at home actually now is sort of the best
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  time to go to the cinema because no one's going you have to book your seats
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  and so you're you're you've got sort of a gap around you now yeah this was
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  particularly good cuz right so IMAX uh I've the the the theaters here not are
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  not too crash hot like the theaters in Sydney are much like nicer and more
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  comfortable than the the general theaters around here but the IMAX in
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  Providence it's got like kind of like couchy kind of seats I was like I had to
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  book the seat and I had yeah like you said I had gaps to the side of me
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  everyone was polite cuz I guess you had to pay extra to go like like the you
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  know the people who are going to sit there and [ __ ] around on their phones
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  aren't paying to see this in that format so so that factor was was good as well
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  and even at the end when the credits rolled you know like this is the kind of
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  movie where if you've got The Right audience the credits come up and
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  everyone just kind of sits there processes for a little bit and then one
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  person was giving a little clap and then everyone else started giving a CL off
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  yeah and then everyone started CL and I was like Ah that's so nice I haven't
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  experienced that in a long time too I like that yeah great that's
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  great yeah what I love about this too is that George Lucas was obviously
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  incredibly influenced by this book when he made Star Wars but then Star Wars
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  informs this version of the retelling like vill is obviously a Star Wars fan
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  this is like Star Wars for adults I know and it's got stuff to like
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  the story of Dune has things that are
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  almost uh cliche these days M but you
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  have to remember that some of this stuff was invented by Frank Herbert for June
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  so like when when you watch this and you go oh that they're doing that so well he
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  invented that yeah they are doing that that's where that from there were there
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  were a few things that I look desert planets yeah that's right
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  yeah yeah the book is called Dune it was the first time what if there was a whole
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  planet Dune as well one bio a lot of the soap opera in the book was removed which
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  I I thought was was good they need to yeah they just got to
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  it there were some nice things about the book that that were removed um it'd be
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  interesting to know if they actually filmed it maybe there a longer cut that
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  they could do much like to have Lord possibly but I also think there were
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  some things this doesn't give anything away Matt the scene where Paul sees um a
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  gardener watering a palm tree right in
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  the book Jessica has a huge biodome inside with vegetation and waterfalls
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  and things to just kind of symbolize the opulence of what they have compared to
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  what's outside in the desert you know and and so I feel they they did they did
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  sum up that with this metaphor of this kind of row of six or so trees that were
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  outside um instead of showing this whole whole thing so I think rather than they
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  mentioned that it costs eight people's worth of water to keep them alive right
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  so it's like they're worth eight lives it's like but even little things that I
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  was actually a little bit worried about like the ornithopters for example are
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  famously hokey in their description I was like how are they going to look like
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  how are you going to have a helicopter with flapping wings like a little bee
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  [ __ ] sick um looks [ __ ] great yeah didn't bother showing any of the weird
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  Kookie space uh space travel stuff they just don't worry about that don't worry about
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  that Navigators in tubes and stuff they're like that you don't want to see
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  that they're here they're just behind that door yeah yeah we expl we have to
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  explain too much just they need the spice to travel through space moving on
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  yeah yeah you can use to travel through space or you can use it to kind of just
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  kind of get extra sentience yeah Mo on don't worry about I mean maybe they'll
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  show up in the next one but I doubt it it's not important to the plot and I
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  think it was it was a good like it's a neat World buing thing in the book and
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  in well and it was one of the Hosier things in the David Lynch film yeah so
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  one of the H things [ __ ] everything let's not cram
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  something just because it's in the book if it doesn't mean anything no it's this
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  is made very if you've seen the David Lynch one and you're like I don't know
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  if I want to see like a goofy Space movie this is not goofy this has all the
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  goofy stuff is removed from this yeah see I want goofy space mov well see now
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  I kind of want to go back and watch the David Lynch again yeah I thought that
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  having seen this yeah but then again David Lynch hates that movie more than
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  any of us could possibly hate it yeah I'm sure yeah he said that's the one thing he
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  regrets is doing that he say he won't even see this movie because he'll know
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  it'll just make him sad about his old one the opportunity that he yeah cuz he
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  didn't yeah he didn't want that movie to be what it is they just made him
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  compromise and compromise and he was a young director and he thought this was
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  his big shot at the mainstream and so he did and he said that was the worst
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  mistake he ever made he said don't ever do that just [ __ ] he doesn't he's not
• 24:55
  M no exactly he said just do what you want you I think we waited until now to
• 25:01
  make this movie because you couldn't make it like even in the 2000s with
• 25:05
  Sci-fi channel tried to make it it we just weren't there with special effects
• 25:10
  for this not to be cheesy and like watching this I can't imagine how I
• 25:15
  can't imagine thinking yeah one movie that'll be enough for this like yeah cuz
• 25:21
  there's soos are fine so starting to come
• 25:26
  around and being more hands off yeah yeah they're still not great at it they
• 25:31
  still do jump in oh we want to do but but they do respect or Theory a little
• 25:36
  bit from time to time especially with people wouldn't have allowed people to
• 25:40
  do it there's great stuff come out and then you see the next when the sequel
• 25:45
  when they go oh we're going to make this bigger and then they go so we'll come in
• 25:47
  and help you with this like yeah no just well here's the thing right so this is
• 25:53
  Dune part one yeah Dune part two will be the second half of the first book which
• 25:58
  is also just a pretty standard space adventure story if they then do the
• 26:02
  sequel that is also a pretty standard space adventure story although turn it
• 26:07
  into a television series but by the third [ __ ] book the main character is
• 26:12
  a worm like how deep are they going to go into this I I can't see them doing
• 26:19
  that I can't see anyone prepared to pay money for that no I agree um I'm going
• 26:25
  to raise my hand and I think Dan kick yeah I don't we'll go see it but no
• 26:31
  one's going to pay money to have that M yeah the studio is going to be like
• 26:35
  who's the main character Somey no I'm not going I don't have a whole lot to
• 26:38
  give him but I'll I'll give him some money to do it give him what I can no
• 26:42
  yeah it's weird with shows like this I really wish they'd maybe do them not as movies
• 26:46
  anymore and go that um I don't know I
• 26:50
  don't know because I this
• 26:54
  really seeing this was like what I love about about movies and so I think I
• 27:00
  think I might have agreed with you had I not just seen it in IMAX and you know it
• 27:05
  had been like almost like an experience I feel like Blade Runner 2049 made me
• 27:09
  feel the same and I I this is a really good gauge I guess for of you're going
• 27:13
  to like this although maybe not like you might like it anyway but if you liked
• 27:17
  bra Blade Runner 2049 you're going to like this I think it's safe to say like
• 27:22
  it's and if you didn't like the original Blade Runner you still might like Blade
• 27:25
  Runner 2049 cuz it is a bit faster yeah that is true you might people don't like
• 27:31
  the first one is just because it is so slow but I think if this was a TV
• 27:37
  show it wouldn't have the same because they knew it was made for
• 27:43
  the big screen I think they do a lot of those long shots like again not spoilers
• 27:48
  like the shots of Paul looking at a spaceship coming up and flying offing
• 27:53
  the tires and he's just standing there looking at it like Dan knows the shot I
• 27:56
  mean you'll know when you see in the film it's not spoiler just Paul standing
• 27:58
  on a hill looking at a spaceship and it goes for like feels like it goes for 5
• 28:03
  minutes with just the music swirling and it's just this long beautiful shot and
• 28:07
  it's like they wouldn't do that in a TV show I don't think yeah yeah um I don't
• 28:11
  know rised by Wolves oh second season coming by the way announced today yeah I
• 28:17
  got Race by Wolves was actually quite slow in the whole episodes which just
• 28:21
  father and mother just yeah maybe doing their thing a great I think I don't
• 28:26
  think they probably would be a bit nervous about it if they were doing with
• 28:29
  Dune I think they get away with Race by Wolves cuz it's not uh it's new yeah well actually
• 28:36
  um while this was being discussed whether or not there'd be a sequel um
• 28:41
  HBO Max said we actually want to do a prequel series it's called Dune The
• 28:48
  Sisterhood so I assume this is about the Benny jzer order um and they wanted John
• 28:52
  Spates to write the series and be the showrunner um and he was like
• 28:58
  no I'd rather just write the next movie yeah
• 29:04
  Fair yeah I want to see this finish John SP who incidentally did um the first
• 29:10
  Prometheus script oh that's okay got you the one that where it was actually an
• 29:15
  alien movie correct Prometheus I could talk about my in cinema movie moment
• 29:21
  after it so the credits come up at the end of the movie everyone just sits
• 29:24
  there starts the process and I just go what the [ __ ] was that
• 29:28
  I did not like it my first VI I did [ __ ] I
• 29:33
  love no I think the reason why I didn't like at my first viewing is I was going
• 29:37
  in thinking it was an aliens movie okay well I mean it wasn't it wasn't and it
• 29:41
  wasn't meant to be and then it was meant to be and then it kind of was and wasn't
• 29:46
  I was kind of wanting it to not be and so I think that's why I was able to
• 29:50
  switch off a little bit Yeah cuz last I heard it was there were going to be
• 29:53
  aliens in it and like so that's why I went with the that's what it's going to
• 29:57
  be and then it wasn't and then there was a space ax and then a big ship that was
• 30:01
  rolling around about to crush her but she just had to run that way well I mean
• 30:06
  it's a big ship Luke I think I think that scene certainly failed but she
• 30:10
  wasn't looking behind her she didn't know which direction it was going to
• 30:13
  right yeah and how far did she have to run in that direction it was big ship
• 30:17
  but yeah I see your point and and ships would have axes on them so calm down the
• 30:22
  internet yeah well well remember she got that from the emergency escape pod
• 30:27
  that's been to go find the closest planet you need an axe if you're going
• 30:30
  to CR on calm down everyone yes I think it should have been
• 30:35
  LV 421 and I think it should have been the space jockey that we've known
• 30:40
  because that would have been nice Symmetry and yes I think it should have
• 30:43
  led directly into a sequel that they never made but other than that I thought
• 30:47
  it was very good oh I did see there was an article with Ridley Scott where I
• 30:51
  thought he's so disconnected I can't remember the specifics but he was
• 30:54
  talking about how he thinks alien is a dead franchise he goes cuz I've made I
• 30:57
  made two of them and then one of them they said no you didn't put the alien in
• 31:01
  enough the second one I put the alien in it they still didn't like it and I'm
• 31:04
  like it's not the alien Ridley what the [ __ ] is wrong with you stop it he's like
• 31:08
  you've gotten old and stupid like can't just put the the storytelling that's the
• 31:12
  difference between those two films I'm like who is this he's not the same
• 31:16
  filmmaker like who are you what are you talking about you just put the alien in
• 31:20
  it that's not what that's not the point there's definitely more life in the
• 31:23
  alien franchise the Terminator one I think they just need to let die but all
• 31:27
  or do it well that's the thing like I watched this I watched this video essay
• 31:32
  called um why the prequels are better than you deserve or something like this
• 31:37
  um about why the Star Wars prequels have all this like cool symbolism and some
• 31:41
  texted stuff and I watch it I'm like yeah you're exactly right but guess what
• 31:45
  I still don't like them yeah you know because they're not very good and it's
• 31:50
  like you can you can point out all the Sergio Leon references and stuff that
• 31:54
  are in these and Kusa and I got those I know though I went to film I know all of
• 31:58
  this stuff don't don't tell me that I don't like them because I didn't pick up
• 32:01
  on the references I picked up on the references it was just bad storytelling
• 32:06
  yeah bad storytelling very wooden acting but I've also found inter interviews
• 32:12
  with George Lucas where he said I'm not interested in actors giving performances
• 32:16
  my movies aren't about plot they're about themes yeah and and you can't really
• 32:20
  fault him on that that's fine yeah I mean George Lucas doesn't give a [ __ ] he
• 32:26
  just he's doing what he wants you know what I'll say this though I bet George
• 32:30
  Lucas would love Dune yeah I bet he'd really like
• 32:34
  it I hope he does well I did and uh I
• 32:38
  recommend listeners that you watch it in I recommend Luke watches it yeah in in
• 32:44
  six weeks whenever it comes out I am in six weeks yeah if you want if you're in
• 32:48
  Australia I'm sorry you have to wait to go see the movies that's that's a shame
• 32:52
  but I don't know why I have to wait 6 weeks since the cinemas are now open
• 32:56
  movies are opening this this Friday but I have to wait until December to see so
• 33:02
  I'm going to go see Shen shei this week see I haven't seen that and also has
• 33:06
  anyone seen no no time die yet no it's also not it's not out here oh well that
• 33:13
  explains that all right and unlike June it's not on the torrent so yeah okay I
• 33:18
  was holding out for June to go back to this the theater so and now I got to
• 33:23
  figure out how I I had big the big three delayed movies for this year were no
• 33:28
  time to die and the French dispatch which I'm also very much for
• 33:32
  to yeah we were talking about the other day I think all I've got really waiting
• 33:36
  for it's like shangi now and Ghostbusters oh Ghostbusters yeah yeah
• 33:39
  for sure I want to see shangi though looks very very good I've heard great
• 33:43
  things about it yeah and he's actually coming out here soon so I just didn't
• 33:47
  want to go to the movies that's that's the problem now is
• 33:51
  that I don't think I want toi I'll watch actually when it comes to Disney plus
• 33:55
  yeah I saw free guy oh did you oh and for me they missed the mark
• 34:01
  completely I knew it yeah like it's it's it's fun the whole thing where he's an
• 34:06
  NPC character that's sort of coming aware and teamed up but then the whole
• 34:10
  movie's got this undercurrent and sorry spoilers but no I don't care trust me
• 34:16
  I'm doing your favor the whole movie's got this sort of subplot
• 34:21
  where there's a subplot where the the girl that he's playing with actually
• 34:26
  wrote the original code for the the game and that code is trapped in the game and
• 34:30
  that proves that she wrote it and that they stole it and they've got to break
• 34:33
  into the game to get it and it's just no
• 34:37
  no not what we wanted I just want and and trying to crack down who can just in
• 34:43
  the middle of a game in the middle of a server just go oh we're going to hack
• 34:47
  this so the buildings are going to crush together to say they can't escape it's
• 34:50
  all like yeah that's not Howers could do anything it says the Luke I feel like
• 34:56
  out of all of us Luke's usually the one was able to shutle that off and go I'm
• 34:59
  just going to enjoy a Ryan Reynolds movie and but like something about this
• 35:02
  one he's just like no I don't care if it's Ryan Reynolds I still hate it but
• 35:07
  this is really his wheelhouse you know like he can't get this wrong for lot
• 35:12
  it's like when I see hacking in like in a you know like a a very straight kind
• 35:16
  of you know movie and then they start they I'm just going to hack in and I
• 35:20
  go and it's like instantly I'm not enjoying I made a movie and there needed
• 35:24
  to be a hacking scene I got you to [ __ ] do the hacking
• 35:28
  instantly no longer enjoying this movie cuz he ruined but like a better a
• 35:33
  subplot they could have had is they got maybe they're getting together to try
• 35:37
  and break down some trolls or something that are doing something terrible and
• 35:42
  yeah that would make more sense than trying to track down the code from the
• 35:46
  game there there's Real World characters in in this movie not just ingame
• 35:50
  characters yes ah okay all right see even that is different to what I assumed
• 35:54
  it would be yeah yeah like I knew they W going to be in World carries but I
• 35:59
  didn't think they were going to play as big a pass as they did right right yeah
• 36:03
  know so that's unfortunate cuz I've been waiting for that movie for two years
• 36:08
  yeah CU every time it was coming out it got moved back well speaking of moved
• 36:12
  back there's another movie that's been moved back enti year follow up yeah and
• 36:17
  we actually literally we just we said last week Dan you and I they've been a
• 36:21
  bit optimistic about this that's right but not only next year it was like quite early
• 36:28
  like in May or something I think Indiana Jones 5 was we haven't said yeah and
• 36:33
  last week we were talking about it and then you and I both read the release
• 36:35
  date and went that's optimistic well they they obviously R and they went
• 36:40
  middle of filming yeah they no they were listen to this podcast and they went no
• 36:45
  no no not may this year may the year after oh [ __ ] yeah so they've deleted a
• 36:51
  year yeah 2023 so they can film way off now he's not going to be around for the
• 36:56
  premiere don't worry they're going to travel back in time and show it oh
• 37:02
  God yeah I really hope they don't do that I I I don't no they they wouldn't I
• 37:09
  rewatched um Raiders of the Lost Arc this week
• 37:14
  because yeah I it's been a little while
• 37:18
  since I've watched it but I um hey it I I you know I wanted Harper to watch a
• 37:24
  good movie yeah and um it is should have watched some Nazis faces melt yeah
• 37:30
  that's right I was like the Nazis it's it's so good I I just can't stress
• 37:34
  enough it's it's just an absolutely Immaculate film but also the most
• 37:39
  pointless one because if he's not there same thing happens it's not about that
• 37:43
  it's not about what happens and what doesn't happen it's about him learning
• 37:48
  to believe it's about themes not plot it's about character Luke it's about
• 37:54
  character this podcast about themes and not plot don't listen don't worry about the
• 37:59
  specific definitely not about worry about the specifics more followup so um
• 38:05
  we talked about Superman last week and a couple of changes to just bring it into
• 38:09
  the kind of 21st century and uh at least
• 38:14
  one staff member at DC is not having it and um the current colorist on the
• 38:20
  Superman comics has walked off saying that is not my Superman he wouldn't do
• 38:25
  that really far out and I'm not talking about the bisexuality either oh what are
• 38:30
  you talking about I'm talking about the change of the motto oh no that's so
• 38:36
  innocuous yeah mhm he says they have no
• 38:40
  right after 80 odd years to come in and say that Superman doesn't fight for the
• 38:45
  American way Superman is a Yankee also not
• 38:50
  gay yeah # no homo all right okay did I have to go back to like the first
• 38:56
  episode could only be that storyline now or that's right y it's all one
• 39:01
  continuous story yep well I mean look whatever good reason so what did they
• 39:07
  change Superman no longer fights for truth justice in the American way he
• 39:11
  fights for truth justice in a better tomorrow also his bisexual but also it's
• 39:16
  not the same character this is Superman's son who has now been past the
• 39:21
  torge doing his own thing kids they do learn from their parents and then twisted
• 39:28
  that's what we were talking about well and and and all those horrible thoughts
• 39:31
  that this colorist is having Superman AKA Superman's dad Superman also has
• 39:37
  those thoughts so you guys can go well that's not how I do it you can go hang
• 39:42
  out with old man Superman and and complain about the kids right so baby
• 39:46
  get your son to now start coloring it for
• 39:49
  us your son will do a great job yeah I'm not going to read the comics anyway just
• 39:55
  to be clear so when you said color it for oh it's not for me for the Superman fans
• 40:00
  but I'm so not a Superman fan no but I also no no they can no I mean I I like
• 40:07
  Superman but I just don't like Superman comics yeah I mean I like Superman
• 40:12
  comics when I was like 10 I like the 70 Superman movies and that's it I just
• 40:17
  think it's so Biz like but like I mean maybe I don't know how how old and stuck
• 40:22
  in his ways this guy is but like these are stories for a young generation
• 40:27
  right the Young Generation right
• 40:31
  like you can't hold on to this [ __ ]
• 40:35
  1930s theme right they don't don't why isn't he fighting the Japanese they
• 40:41
  disagree with you about a lot of that stuff mate like what yeah that's right
• 40:46
  yeah times have changed yeah and him fighting for everyone is a bad thing
• 40:51
  also and I know we are guilty of this from time to time too but it's a comic
• 40:56
  book you can't take it too seriously right it's a comic book for kids settle
• 41:02
  down we take things seriously but we know we're doing it and and we to laugh
• 41:06
  a lot of the time like I'm not you know we get fired up about Star Wars I we've
• 41:11
  had arguments on this podcast about [ __ ] Batman movies that that went way further
• 41:17
  than real arguments with real world consequence and then and then all sat
• 41:22
  down and had a beer and we're like the [ __ ] were we thinking when we got mad
• 41:27
  each other on our podcast about a [ __ ] Batman movie
• 41:33
  like yeah legit mad yeah yeah no but that's we just love this stuff and I get
• 41:40
  it I get it this guy is American and he wants Superman to fight for him but
• 41:45
  Superman still fights for him he just also fights means
• 41:50
  for fighting for anyone else Luke and it means turning people to the American way
• 41:54
  just tell him that and he'll be fine might if they've changed it means he
• 41:57
  thinks maybe some other way is a bit better sometimes and that's just not
• 42:01
  acceptable yeah he's not F need to be specific for the [ __ ] Middle Eastern
• 42:06
  way is he is he see well he's not fighting for any way he's fighting for a
• 42:10
  better tomorrow that's true and if a better tomorrow is is Soviet communism
• 42:15
  so be it you know his better tomorrow might be flying around the earth killing
• 42:19
  a lot of people and going it's all America now it's it'sot robot he's like you know what
• 42:25
  would be better if the humans just [ __ ] off I'll bring all the kryptonians here
• 42:32
  better tomorrow yep mhm not a whole lot of kryptonians left are there I don't
• 42:38
  know they depends which era you read yeah
• 42:43
  that's for a planet that blew up there's a lot of [ __ ] hanging around yeah s
• 42:49
  like oh we don't have a bad guy um yeah it's just another Kryptonite we found
• 42:53
  and he's arrived on the planet and they're going to fight look in in easy
• 42:57
  go to it's like Babylon 5 they always used to have Raiders so if they had to
• 43:02
  have people go off the station for something but wasn't the whole thing for
• 43:07
  the plot was getting them off the station but not so they weren't there at
• 43:11
  the time it was they're off of attacking Raiders that reminds me of firefly what
• 43:17
  would the what would the reavers re fa
• 43:22
  reavers reavers I thought re reamers no might
• 43:26
  be confusing mess effect remur [ __ ] it's the
• 43:32
  [Laughter] remur I just realized that is literally
• 43:38
  [ __ ] Jos Sweden speaking of Jos Weeden we've got some Jos Sweden
• 43:42
  followup now but isn't the thing that the reavers literally rape you to
• 43:47
  death isn't that they will rape you to death eat your flesh and wear your skin
• 43:53
  if you're lucky that order see the signs there yeah well no
• 44:00
  everything I recently I recently went back and I
• 44:04
  watched do house oh that's a great show I like a great show but it's got a
• 44:09
  really dark meeting when you think about how just came up with it this now you
• 44:12
  know what he was like and yeah it's a bit more creepy now I agree it's a great
• 44:17
  show I enjoyed it I especially like the two episodes of like 10 years in the
• 44:21
  future and not just because FL should so
• 44:25
  good I Al like the episode where and I forget all the characters names but
• 44:31
  where they switch they switch personalities around so actors are playing different
• 44:37
  characters and I I clever performances
• 44:40
  in that uh and I I mean it was yeah it was a good vehicle for some of those
• 44:46
  actors because you're literally playing a different character every week but
• 44:49
  then stuff like that yeah where they have to perform like another actor on
• 44:53
  that show's performance is just impressive yeah and what that show got
• 44:58
  really really right is
• 45:02
  the the the Divide between having an episodic storyline with a
• 45:09
  baddy of the week and an adventure of the week and an overarching storyline as
• 45:14
  well yeah you know well I think he just brought that over from Buffy well yeah
• 45:18
  progressed it but I think he really honed here because he got it yeah he
• 45:23
  worked on that and then brought it into literally D was playing a different
• 45:27
  character each week but also herself see that's one of these things it means
• 45:32
  someone who wants to watch all of them and have that there it's great someone
• 45:36
  who just might just be sitting down to watch it they don't have to really catch
• 45:39
  up that's on a full story it's just I watched this episode and I'm done I've
• 45:43
  got to say though Luke you you probably disagree with me because I know you you
• 45:47
  like to wait a week before you watch the next episode of things I have gotten
• 45:52
  really used to binge watching shows and the three shows that are out
• 45:57
  at the moment that I want to watch um which are Foundation Lost Symbol and
• 46:03
  succession season 3 are all week to week and I've got to wait till November and
• 46:07
  December to see all of them it depends on the show cuz there's a show just came
• 46:14
  out Netflix on season 2 um another life so it's got Starbuck oh apparently that
• 46:20
  show is [ __ ] awful I enjoyed it but all right here's where I enjoyed it in a
• 46:24
  way that I could have just been watch two seasons in a weekend right right and
• 46:28
  there'll be times where I focus more on the game and drop out and then I I'm
• 46:32
  just going to pick up from where I stopped and yeah it's not something
• 46:34
  where you need to watch everything but it's still enjoyable and I wish we had
• 46:38
  more space shows like that mhm we don't have many good even mediocre science
• 46:45
  fiction shows to be clear I haven't seen that show I just heard that it was awful
• 46:48
  so maybe I'll check it out anyway I don't mind it it's it's good in some
• 46:53
  places and then it's terrible in others it's all like watching and they go oh
• 46:58
  we're just going to stop that plot story line now okay what is the Prem someone
• 47:02
  said that oh I'm not sure exactly I just all I I sort of thing that said that
• 47:07
  they um it's got really bad science in it and they also just kind of it's
• 47:13
  inconsistent and they just make [ __ ] up to make a plot Point happen and it's
• 47:17
  very frustrating so if you just skip that like yeah okay so the plot point is
• 47:22
  aliens come to Earth okay and they find out they've come from from some star
• 47:27
  system way over there and so they build a ship and they're sending people out
• 47:32
  there to make first contact with the aliens because they're not their ship
• 47:35
  that landed isn't communicating with them and then it's just H Jing insures
• 47:41
  okay all right and the tone of it is it is it kind of of Comedy okay so it's but
• 47:48
  not Battle Star Galactica dark no no right I yeah I I enjoyed it I
• 47:54
  actually thinking about watching it again oh okay um the music I found is
• 47:58
  very odd you know really in way I think the music misses the tone of the show oh
• 48:05
  interesting but yeah no I watch two seasons I'm hoping they get a third one
• 48:09
  because I don't know it shows like that are fun that's fair you can just Chuck
• 48:13
  on and watch and it's fair yeah check out that's why I'm looking forward to
• 48:17
  awful season 3 I I do want to check that out
• 48:22
  yeah Family Guy in space yeah yeah exactly
• 48:28
  watch I want to talk about only murders in the building because I know Dan
• 48:31
  you're waiting for the finale the finale is out you can watch the okay it's
• 48:35
  really worth your time all right I actually feel sorry for uh Selma Gomez
• 48:41
  or whatever her name SEL Gomez yeah the character she had to date Justin Bieber
• 48:46
  and she's a lovely girl she's great in this no yeah only murders in the
• 48:51
  building is wonderful it's it really funny it's very clever like it's are
• 48:58
  they hour long episodes or half hours like half hour about
• 49:01
  40 they hover around 30 40 minutes yeah it's they're over quickly it's one of
• 49:06
  those shows where you go [ __ ] it's end but it's very clever it's a murder
• 49:10
  mystery it's got a good mystery it's got twists and turns where you think you
• 49:14
  know you you think you've worked it out the next thing happens and with with
• 49:19
  having a child Quay and I have about a about a 30 minute crossover you both
• 49:24
  interact with each other where we can both watch tevision
• 49:27
  so this might be a good one to to put on that time no it's really good it's
• 49:31
  really funny like laugh out loud funny is hilarious oh really yeah yeah like
• 49:37
  he's just he's just a great actor it's just it's him yeah there just that see
• 49:42
  he's not spoiler you know he walks in and it's the stunt double and he goes he
• 49:46
  he he goes we need to talk about look Charles I don't know what you've had
• 49:49
  done but it's it's too much it's too much too much like plastic
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  surgery he's great then I think you will enjoy it y i I might start tomorrow that
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  sounds good Disney plus right lots of cameos too Disney plus is it okay good
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  yeah people pop up and you go oh look that person's in this have they
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  announced a season two yet yeah oh it's doing game Busters for sure they're
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  doing a season two yes oh well you never know I think it'll be fine and it's well
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  no this this is Disney cuz yeah it's Netflix that you never know no I mean
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  again not spoilers but it does set itself up for another season like if
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  they if if they wanted to they could certainly do one
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  there's always another season but you could also it could just end there and
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  that be yes that's true yeah yeah it could it wouldn't be the greatest ending
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  ever but it's been a lot worse speaking of ending there and that being it I kind
• 50:41
  of felt Mythic Quest wrapped itself up quite nicely I did to as much as I love
• 50:47
  that show and it it did start to go off the rails a little bit at the end of
• 50:52
  season 2 little bit towards the end I sort of started to lose interest cuz it
• 50:56
  just started I don't know what it was it just one or two great episodes
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  especially the backstory of uh y but uh also some stuff I didn't really care
• 51:07
  about taking center stage and and and then of course they they kind of wrapped
• 51:13
  did I could sort of understand that hey we do want to go back and maybe like
• 51:16
  there's still money to be made here another season I don't understand the
• 51:19
  signing of two new season new seas that seems I wonder if season 2 was made
• 51:25
  during Co so I wonder if they I mean cuz he's not a dummy Rob melini so I wonder
• 51:31
  if he he and and the the riding team realized all right we've got to we've
• 51:36
  got season two we got to do this but we know it's not you know it is getting a
• 51:40
  bit stale and so they kind of did flip the table a bit at the end there so
• 51:44
  maybe he does have good ideas for how to continue now he's obviously sold apple
• 51:49
  on two new seasons now so they've got they must have some idea that he's
• 51:54
  although sometimes it's just you want to sign him up so you don't lose them to
• 51:57
  someone else I mean that's true actually yeah he's a he's a good catch for a for
• 52:03
  a streaming service Rob mine yeah especially Apple sort of being so new
• 52:08
  and wanting to focus on new stuff so it could be one of those things like hey he
• 52:12
  really wants to make this we'll sign you up for this but also can you think of
• 52:15
  something new for us as well yeah one of those sort of side deals so I mean I
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  kind of spoilers but I mean it's been more than two weeks so remember the
• 52:23
  rules one week for television show two weeks for movie so Poppy and and uh iron
• 52:29
  I love they've left Mythic Quest so it's not even going to be Mythic Quest
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  anymore in theory they're going to go make a new game unless it is and it's
• 52:37
  just not about them that would be [ __ ] weird but and I have to tie back into it
• 52:43
  but I mean that would then also mean it would be a whole new thing which could
• 52:48
  also be great so I guess that might be what it needs and the best episodes
• 52:54
  weren't about them either really correct to be honest mind you the worst ones
• 52:59
  were about the testers and I really hope they don't go down that road because it
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  seemed I they paying a lot of attention to those characters yeah yeah they were
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  but they weren't actually showing like real testing or anything it
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  wasn't what l wants to watch that just them that wasn't people testing that was
• 53:20
  people playing a game he just wants to watch them [ __ ] sit there and play
• 53:23
  this fictional video game and go I found a bug hang on let me see if I can
• 53:27
  reproduce that and then just do the same thing over and over and over yeah if I
• 53:31
  hold shift and G and jump in this corner here I I can get through the wall yeah I
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  want to see that coming they weren't testers they were
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  people who played the game yeah I know that's what that's what people dream of
• 53:47
  being a a video game tester that's what people think it is it's not the reality
• 53:51
  of unrealistic expectations that's fair but I'll watch it guys I wanted to
• 53:55
  mention I wanted to mention one thing that I did this week um I went I went
• 53:59
  hunting for betet Midler oh with a gun I heard she was in town you trying to hunt
• 54:05
  murder B mid uh I don't don't think that's quite what I said Luke uh so I think it
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  was yeah look on this one in fact I also saw a Snapchat of you doing a slow drive
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  past her house uh I don't I'm not sure she lives there Dan uh well she was
• 54:23
  there at the time she was there she certainly was because we couldn't get in
• 54:26
  but uh I watched Hocus Pocus we mentioned that I watched Hocus Pocus the
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  other week guys back in two seconds yeah take care of that Jesus you're not L not
• 54:36
  even supposed to be walking I hope that came out on the tape on the tape how
• 54:41
  [ __ ] old am I you guys are recording those on
• 54:47
  [ __ ] I hope the vacuum tube picked up those
• 54:52
  noises mhm mhm should I wait for him to come back
• 54:58
  what are we doing no I just keep I don't know okay well I mentioned I watched
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  Hocus Pocus I went to uh we well we went
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  to Salem on uh Friday and we went to the
• 55:10
  Pioneer Village saw that love Salem yeah so the Pioneer Village for listeners
• 55:15
  don't know is where they shot the opening of the original Hocus Pocus the
• 55:19
  stuff that was set in uh the 1600s in Salem because the Pioneer Village in
• 55:24
  Salem is a little fake 1600 Village and so they have a nighta on there so I went
• 55:30
  there so that's the set of the first film technically speaking and then
• 55:33
  they're filming in the second film in Rhode Island right now and they've
• 55:36
  rebuilt that on a farm basically they've
• 55:40
  built a a Salem 1960s 1960s
• 55:45
  1600s Village on a farm and uh apparently you can go there and have a
• 55:51
  look around except you can't go there not when they're filming yeah when
• 55:55
  they're literally filming there uh that apparently it's not not possible they
• 55:58
  don't let you who knew yeah well but I did try I did try sorry I had
• 56:05
  to run away my cats for fighting sounded brutal yeah are they all right the
• 56:10
  little one start [ __ ] and they can't back it off right right and the big one
• 56:15
  gets carried away that's kind of what happens with my cats too and then the
• 56:19
  little one gets upset he's so mean to me you so breaking my heart with the little
• 56:24
  village that they built did they build it for this cuz I also remember they
• 56:27
  built like a a village for the Fe streat stuff as well I was wondering if they
• 56:32
  maybe just reused it cuz that would it's Salem they might keep all of these well
• 56:37
  no no so the the the the Salem Village is always there it's like a kind of a
• 56:42
  tour almost a tourist attraction and and like that that night market that we went
• 56:46
  to is they didn't do it last year cuz of Co but I think that's going to be an
• 56:48
  annual thing and that's on in this little Piney Village the one that's here
• 56:51
  in Rhode Island is the where they're filming right now and I think I think I
• 56:57
  think it it maybe they're going to leave it there but I think it's supposed to be
• 57:00
  temporary they just built it on a farm up kind of a bit north and uh and
• 57:04
  they're filming there so but I'm going to try and go back at a point when
• 57:10
  they're not actively filming and uh have a walk around take some photos CU other
• 57:15
  people have been doing that so yeah that sounds interesting this is a film not a
• 57:20
  series just a follow film I think it's yeah hus Pocus too I've never seen Hocus
• 57:24
  Pocus maybe I should maybe should I don't have a Halloween party this year
• 57:28
  to go to so maybe I'll watch it on honestly I was I I enjoyed it I was
• 57:31
  surprised I was surprised by how much I enjoyed it so H okay interesting yeah I
• 57:37
  think at the time it came out we just were just at that wrong age for it yeah
• 57:42
  I thought it was a kids movie it is but it's one that it's got enough stuff in
• 57:46
  there for an adult to have a bit of we're at the age now where we can
• 57:49
  appreciate family films that's what it is when we were 20 and it came out we're
• 57:53
  like don't give a [ __ ] about this right I've got something to recommend to you
• 57:56
  Matt all right if you if you happen to
• 57:58
  like TV series about serial
• 58:03
  killers maybe yeah maybe I'm just kidding [ __ ] love him Dan I love him
• 58:08
  this is this is called the serpent it's on Netflix it's scripted drama it's not
• 58:13
  docu series scripted drama about a
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  serial killer named Charles
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  Sage who is a French Indian h xat living
• 58:27
  in Bangkok in the' 70s murdering
• 58:32
  Backpackers yeah and it's pretty good I really enjo's in there all right she was
• 58:39
  in Doctor Who I like her oh yeah yeah bit of Jen Coleman in there absolutely
• 58:43
  and a whole bunch of really International actors because it's
• 58:47
  everyone's from somewhere so if you watch a lot of foreign films you'll be
• 58:51
  like oh that's a person from that French that's a person from that Asian film
• 58:54
  like it's just a lot of it's a great cast and great production designed to
• 58:58
  recreate the 70s one thing though the lead character is performed by an actor
• 59:05
  that I really really love called air Raman right who is a french alerian
• 59:11
  actor right but he's playing an Indian character now I don't have any problem
• 59:17
  with that per se but they've used makeup
• 59:22
  to make him appear more Indian if you know what I'm mean yeah yeah I think I
• 59:28
  do interesting but as someone who is
• 59:33
  already a little bit ethnic that's okay is it okay for someone who's a bit Brown
• 59:39
  they got mad about that we talked about this one of the Marvel actresses I think
• 59:44
  um is that what I'm thinking Lovecraft country oh that's that's it that's it
• 59:48
  yeah yeah yeah you're right super mad when they darkened actors in Lovecraft
• 59:52
  country yeah but uh this one is an Alger actor darkened to look like an Indian
• 59:59
  yeah right Luke how do you feel about that Luke you you befriended an Algerian
• 1:00:03
  French alerian waiter when we were in Paris if you recall maybe try and say
• 1:00:09
  big words he did that guy was [ __ ] charged us for the be yeah that's
• 1:00:15
  right yeah he was a cheeky we were pretty hammered by that point oh yeah
• 1:00:21
  why did he pick on me you know why you why
• 1:00:27
  cuz he looked around and he said this guy definitely doesn't speak French this
• 1:00:31
  guy can't speak English so yeah Luke you're dodging the question is Brown
• 1:00:37
  face okay if it's on someone who's a bit Brown to begin with we are not the ones
• 1:00:42
  who get to decide that well apparently Netflix Netflix said it's absolutely
• 1:00:47
  fine and I've not found a single person online who has a problem with this which
• 1:00:52
  just surprises me um a lot of people comment oh here's obviously a wig watch
• 1:00:58
  it to the end it is a wig right yeah so
• 1:01:02
  shut up um people wear wigs all the time correct I think I think Dan's in playing
• 1:01:08
  that's a plot point I mean it's not a plot point but it's just like it's a character Point
• 1:01:13
  yeah he's wearing wig the character is wearing a wig yes correct yeah the
• 1:01:17
  actor's not wearing a bad wig the character wears wigs right that's why
• 1:01:22
  they're obviously wigs it's not because the [ __ ] production were just like
• 1:01:26
  any better than this yeah [ __ ] how do they do it on other
• 1:01:31
  movies yeah go to the just get get a bunch of boot
• 1:01:38
  polish all right this sounds interesting I think I'll I'll it is it's it's quite
• 1:01:43
  yeah it's not kind of dark and Gothic like you expect some serial killer
• 1:01:47
  movies to be it's it's not like that it's got its own kind of tone but it is
• 1:01:52
  it is a and it's got the parallel story of the the investigations and the crimes
• 1:01:59
  um jumps all around in time I highly recommend all right uh speaking of well
• 1:02:06
  not murder I don't I don't there's no evidence to suggest these people were
• 1:02:08
  murdered but uh they did find a mass grave uh nearby that I wanted to I mean
• 1:02:14
  that implies some kind of Foul Play doesn't it doesn't it yeah or it depends
• 1:02:19
  it depends when it's from apparently
• 1:02:22
  there are thousands of people uh underneath uh a highway near
• 1:02:29
  me and also there's also an unmarked Mass grave nearby uh containing hundreds
• 1:02:35
  of bodies and both discoveries have been
• 1:02:39
  linked to State institution cemeteries
• 1:02:43
  so uh sick poor mentally ill people buried in the uh where it's if they
• 1:02:50
  disappear in the 1875 and 1953 so this is not like I mean I mean not a serial
• 1:02:57
  killer but I mean this is the government's put them there kind of
• 1:03:00
  thing yeah this is terrible people doing stuff to people in need potentially
• 1:03:07
  like they have been in an Institute and just died and so they've just popped
• 1:03:11
  them in a yeah when you talking thousands though yeah I mean like a
• 1:03:15
  thousands over that period of time is a hell of a lot that's it's a couple of
• 1:03:18
  people yeah and then so apparently these people some of these people were buried
• 1:03:24
  in a cemetery like a state institution cemetery and then they got dug up and
• 1:03:30
  moved moved they wanted to land yes and then they built a highway over where
• 1:03:35
  they moved them to so did they just move the stones or did they move the bodies
• 1:03:40
  cuz I've seen that go horribly wrong just going to say it's so I now know
• 1:03:44
  where the most haunted section of Highway in my area is and I'll report
• 1:03:48
  back yeah I wouldn't drive on there and if I do hold your
• 1:03:52
  breath stuff but I don't want to take chances I definitely have on there many
• 1:03:57
  times so um Dan I probably drove you on there
• 1:04:02
  yeah took him for a quick ride what's what's wrong with that nothing it's
• 1:04:07
  going to show you a hole that I've dug in I've shown a bunch of people and you're next
• 1:04:13
  yeah oh who are we kidding I ain't digging a hole I got a hole to show you
• 1:04:19
  you know in movies most obvious joke and I was like don't do it Matt don't do
• 1:04:24
  it and you know that Trope in movies where like the villain like makes the
• 1:04:29
  hero dig their own grave I just be like yeah no I'm clearly digging the grave so
• 1:04:34
  that you're going to kill me and put me in just kill me now but the thing is
• 1:04:39
  there is still that chance that maybe I could still get out of this that's why
• 1:04:42
  you're complying for them it's I can threaten them if they don't do it I'll
• 1:04:46
  just shoot them and I didn't have to dig but this way hopefully they've done more
• 1:04:49
  I'm going to threaten you cuz I I bet that you not going to do the [ __ ]
• 1:04:52
  digging so I'm just going to like theic there is Maybe if I dig my own grave he
• 1:04:57
  won't kill me because you'll think he's nice he's dug his own grave I asked him
• 1:05:00
  to if I so how this is going to go of this yeah that's what I
• 1:05:05
  mean you're just helping out that'd be like him going hold the gun and point it
• 1:05:10
  at your head I'm like yeah all right look honestly if you're digging the
• 1:05:14
  grave there's more of a chance of someone coming to rescue you you're
• 1:05:17
  buying time sure sure sure sure yeah that's all it is you think you dig real
• 1:05:21
  slow ah sorry may have never dug a grave before yeah I'm terrible at it a lot of
• 1:05:27
  clay down here lot of clay I'm digging sideways look at me [ __ ] all
• 1:05:33
  left I was like that parable about that would you would you rather be killed by
• 1:05:36
  a single stab or a thousand tiny cuts and like you're supposed you're supposed
• 1:05:41
  to say a single stab because it would be quicker and put you out a bit you're
• 1:05:44
  like well I could Escape during the Thousand tiny cuts at some point like
• 1:05:49
  that's right well that's not the question the question is you got this
• 1:05:54
  one or option
• 1:06:37
  [Laughter]
• 1:06:55
  I'm circumcised now you've you've blurred everything cirumed yeah you're
• 1:07:01
  blurry it it is very big Luke yeah very impressive I mean it definitely looks
• 1:07:06
  sexual because it is blurred it's been censored yeah yeah that that BL a little
• 1:07:12
  overboard that blurry thing blurry box it's a blurry box but I'm just showing
• 1:07:16
  the height the width of it we can't tell the girth of it just the length no it's
• 1:07:21
  it's probably about 7 foot wide that's all for this week thank you for
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