Latest / The You Project / #1703 A Successful Failure - Harps
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Good our team, it's Harps. I hope you're terrific. Welcome
- 0:03Speaker 1: to another installment of life. As many of you know,
- 0:07Speaker 1: I'm sure my main job. I do lots of different things,
- 0:12Speaker 1: but I guess what I've done the most of consistently
- 0:16Speaker 1: over the last twenty years. But I've I've been speaking
- 0:21Speaker 1: for thirty years before that, a lot of exercise physiology
- 0:23Speaker 1: and training people. But in terms of my job, the
- 0:27Speaker 1: last twenty years, I've been speaking to teams and organizations
- 0:32Speaker 1: and companies here in Australia overseas in lots of different capacities,
- 0:40Speaker 1: sporting clubs, not for profits, government, Victoria, police, big organizations,
- 0:48Speaker 1: little organizations, mostly in the three dimensional face to face realm.
- 0:54Speaker 1: More recently a lot of online stuff. And I'm in
- 0:59Speaker 1: the middle of doing some gigs right now at the moment,
- 1:04Speaker 1: and so I've been doing that for a long time.
- 1:06Speaker 1: But I did my first paid speaking gig when I
- 1:09Speaker 1: was twenty six, which was thirty three years ago. I
- 1:12Speaker 1: got paid one hundred dollars. It was for a bunch
- 1:16Speaker 1: of blokes at a timberyard. I spoke for about I
- 1:24Speaker 1: can't remember if it was thirty or forty minutes. Probably
- 1:27Speaker 1: forty odd minutes. I spoke to them in what was
- 1:31Speaker 1: their smoko room. They're kind of their lunch room. I
- 1:36Speaker 1: can't even remember how many guys, maybe twenty. And I
- 1:40Speaker 1: remember preparing for that talk for weeks because the guy
- 1:46Speaker 1: who owned the business was a personal training client of mine,
- 1:51Speaker 1: and I used to talk to him about all the
- 1:53Speaker 1: stuff I talk about, you know, health and fitness and
- 1:55Speaker 1: get them in shape and a bitter nutrition bit of mindset,
- 1:59Speaker 1: very fundament until back in the day, of course, pretty rudimentary,
- 2:02Speaker 1: but nonetheless, he thought there was value in it. And
- 2:05Speaker 1: he said, you know, the stuff that you talk to
- 2:07Speaker 1: me about, could you come in and talk to my dudes,
- 2:10Speaker 1: my guys about that. Could you talk to my team
- 2:12Speaker 1: about physical health and a bit about nutrition, bit about
- 2:16Speaker 1: looking after themselves. Like I said, pretty rudimentary, fundamental stuff
- 2:19Speaker 1: back then, but nonetheless, and I was excited because I'd
- 2:22Speaker 1: done a little bit of speaking in front of groups
- 2:24Speaker 1: not paid. I kind of enjoyed it, and you know,
- 2:29Speaker 1: I thought, maybe, imagine if I could do this as
- 2:33Speaker 1: a living or part of my living. Imagine if part
- 2:35Speaker 1: of my income could be standing in front of people
- 2:38Speaker 1: talking about the shit that I love. The shit that
- 2:41Speaker 1: I'm passionate about. So I rocked up. I did my gig.
- 2:47Speaker 1: I stumbled and started a few times, and I, after
- 2:53Speaker 1: two weeks of prep and copious amounts of planning and
- 2:57Speaker 1: note writing, I think I came We came up with
- 3:01Speaker 1: like a one page dot point with a million dot
- 3:05Speaker 1: points on it of what I was going to talk
- 3:07Speaker 1: to them about. Well, of course I started, and then
- 3:10Speaker 1: I forgot about my dot points. And then I looked
- 3:13Speaker 1: at my dot points and I couldn't fucking remember what
- 3:15Speaker 1: I'd spoken about and not spoken about. And I've forgot
- 3:20Speaker 1: the story that I was going to tell to highlight
- 3:22Speaker 1: that particular point. And I thought I would try and
- 3:24Speaker 1: be a bit amusing and funny. That didn't work. Bottom
- 3:27Speaker 1: line is I spoke for whatever it was thirty or
- 3:30Speaker 1: forty minutes, and I wasn't very good. I wasn't very
- 3:34Speaker 1: good at all. I would give me for where I
- 3:38Speaker 1: was at then in terms of skill and knowledge and competence,
- 3:44Speaker 1: maybe I'd give me a three or four out of ten.
- 3:46Speaker 1: But now with what I know and my skill level
- 3:51Speaker 1: now and competence and understanding now, I would give me
- 3:53Speaker 1: a one. I did not do a great job at all.
- 3:56Speaker 1: There were no questions, there was no interaction. Nobody wanted
- 3:59Speaker 1: to know anything. Nobody spoke to me when I finished,
- 4:02Speaker 1: as soon as I said, you know, I'll be here
- 4:04Speaker 1: if anyone's got a question, And everybody got up and
- 4:07Speaker 1: fucking run out of the room, run out of the room.
- 4:10Speaker 1: And that happened. Not long later, doing a fitness industry thing,
- 4:14Speaker 1: talking to some would be personal trainers, or perhaps it
- 4:18Speaker 1: was jim instructors in those days, but anyway, I did
- 4:20Speaker 1: a similar thing, but this time I spoke for two hours,
- 4:24Speaker 1: talking about strength training and writing programs and all that
- 4:27Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Same thing happened. This was within a
- 4:31Speaker 1: few months of each other, and I finished, Everyone left
- 4:36Speaker 1: the room. No one asked a question. A young lady
- 4:39Speaker 1: came up to me, and I thought I was on
- 4:42Speaker 1: a winner because she had a question. So she must
- 4:44Speaker 1: have been a bit interested, and she did have a question,
- 4:46Speaker 1: but unfortunately for me, the question was will you be
- 4:50Speaker 1: here teaching next week? The answer was yes, I will be.
- 4:53Speaker 1: The look on her face was one of disappointment, and
- 4:57Speaker 1: she promptly left the room and she did not come
- 4:59Speaker 1: the following Why didn't she come? Of course, she didn't
- 5:02Speaker 1: want to fucking hear me, I was no good, so
- 5:06Speaker 1: failing embarrassment, not being good, not having a high level
- 5:13Speaker 1: of skill or competence, That's where I've always started. I've
- 5:19Speaker 1: done most of my learning through trial and error. Yes
- 5:23Speaker 1: I've done academic learning, and yes I've sat in classrooms
- 5:26Speaker 1: and set exams, and yes I'm doing a PhD right now.
- 5:30Speaker 1: But in terms of in terms of my ability to
- 5:33Speaker 1: do what I do, in terms of my ability to
- 5:36Speaker 1: run a business, to solve problems, to negotiate different things
- 5:42Speaker 1: that I need to, To be able to stand in front
- 5:44Speaker 1: of an audience and build rapport and connection and tell
- 5:47Speaker 1: a story and be funny and share thoughts and ideas
- 5:50Speaker 1: in a way that's broadly relevant and relatable. That is
- 5:54Speaker 1: something that has happened through trial and error. That is
- 5:57Speaker 1: something that's happened through falling down and getting up. That's
- 6:01Speaker 1: something that's happened through me being comfortable with not being good.
- 6:08Speaker 1: The starting point for everything that I'm now, I guess
- 6:11Speaker 1: you would say good at or somewhat competent at, or
- 6:14Speaker 1: skilled at, or paid for. The starting point for me
- 6:19Speaker 1: was incompetence, ignorance, lack of knowledge, lack of skill, and
- 6:30Speaker 1: inability to be able to perform at a high level
- 6:32Speaker 1: at that thing. That is where I started. I started
- 6:36Speaker 1: as the white belt. I started as the white belt,
- 6:39Speaker 1: and I metaphorically got strangled and kicked and choked and punched,
- 6:42Speaker 1: and I did not do a good job. But I
- 6:44Speaker 1: came back and I kept training, and I kept showing up,
- 6:47Speaker 1: and I kept doing the work, and I kept asking questions,
- 6:50Speaker 1: and I kept learning through my failure. I kept learning
- 6:54Speaker 1: through my mediocrity. I kept learning through my poor results.
- 7:01Speaker 1: And many of you know that this podcast Life is,
- 7:03Speaker 1: in fact my fifth podcast. My fourth is the U Project.
- 7:07Speaker 1: And you also know some of you that I did
- 7:10Speaker 1: three podcasts before the U Project that didn't work. They failed.
- 7:14Speaker 1: I made no money in fast, In fact, I lost money,
- 7:17Speaker 1: and that was over two years. And then when I
- 7:18Speaker 1: started the U Project, it took at least another two
- 7:22Speaker 1: years of almost daily shows daily now but almost daily
- 7:25Speaker 1: shows back then, so four years of podcasting in total
- 7:29Speaker 1: before I made a dollar. So I was losing money
- 7:34Speaker 1: for four years. I was losing money for what added
- 7:37Speaker 1: up to around eight hundred episodes of The U Project
- 7:41Speaker 1: and my other shows before I had something that was
- 7:46Speaker 1: commercially viable. Before I could say well, this is working now,
- 7:53Speaker 1: it wasn't. It was working in that we were producing
- 7:56Speaker 1: shows and some people were listening. But depending on watch
- 8:00Speaker 1: a metric for successes, it's conceivable that we could say
- 8:04Speaker 1: I failed for eight hundred episodes. I don't think I
- 8:08Speaker 1: failed for eight hundred episodes because I learned and I
- 8:10Speaker 1: grew and I evolved and I developed inside understanding, awareness,
- 8:14Speaker 1: skill competence, and I got better and I learned how
- 8:17Speaker 1: to interview people better and listen better, and produce better
- 8:21Speaker 1: and know where to go and where not to go
- 8:24Speaker 1: in a podcast. It was all learning, It was all development,
- 8:26Speaker 1: It was all skill acquisition. But on a level I
- 8:30Speaker 1: was losing money, making no dough and failing. But that
- 8:33Speaker 1: is why the title of this episode is the successful failure,
- 8:37Speaker 1: because while I was failing in a sense, I was
- 8:40Speaker 1: getting closer to success because I was simply doing what's
- 8:44Speaker 1: required to build the right muscles to become a successful podcast.
- 8:49Speaker 1: I was building the right muscles when I was younger,
- 8:52Speaker 1: although I was falling down and getting up and failing
- 8:55Speaker 1: and fucking up. When I opened my first personal training center,
- 8:59Speaker 1: the first one Australia, at twenty six, I made a
- 9:02Speaker 1: million mistakes. I failed in inverted commas many times because
- 9:07Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was doing. But I couldn't
- 9:10Speaker 1: get good at the thing that I wouldn't do, So
- 9:12Speaker 1: I had to do the things I wasn't good at
- 9:15Speaker 1: in order to learn, in order to develop, in order
- 9:17Speaker 1: to understand, and in order to be able to get
- 9:20Speaker 1: good over the long term. This aversion that so many
- 9:25Speaker 1: of us have to not failing, to not looking silly,
- 9:30Speaker 1: to not being embarrassed, to not being able to cope
- 9:34Speaker 1: with anything other than a positive outcome, is actually a
- 9:38Speaker 1: massive self limitation. I want to do the things that
- 9:44Speaker 1: make me better, and if that is periodically failing, falling,
- 9:49Speaker 1: looking silly, I'm completely up for that. I want to
- 9:53Speaker 1: go where I grow. I want to be in the
- 9:55Speaker 1: room where I'm the dumbest. I want to be in
- 9:58Speaker 1: the room where I'm the least skilled. I want to
- 10:00Speaker 1: be in the room where I'm the least successful because
- 10:03Speaker 1: I want to surround myself with a culture, with a mindset,
- 10:07Speaker 1: and with people that are better than me, so that
- 10:09Speaker 1: I'll get dragged up. That's how I learn when I'm
- 10:14Speaker 1: constantly mixing with people that I have more skill, knowledge,
- 10:18Speaker 1: and understanding in a particular area than all I'm doing
- 10:21Speaker 1: is making myself look good and stroking my ego. I
- 10:25Speaker 1: want to be I want to be the perpetual student,
- 10:28Speaker 1: and of course there'll be times when I'm standing in
- 10:29Speaker 1: front of an audience to teach. I'm not talking about
- 10:32Speaker 1: that so much. I'm just talking about putting myself. I'm
- 10:36Speaker 1: talking to you about putting yourself in the middle of
- 10:40Speaker 1: a situation, an environment, a culture, a process that you
- 10:46Speaker 1: are going to grow in, and it will feel like failure,
- 10:50Speaker 1: but really, over the long term, it's part of becoming successful.
- 10:55Speaker 1: See you tomorrow.