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- 0:01Start your day with Wes. You're listening to the West Carol Morning Show Thursday
- 0:08morning, at thirteenth day of July. Hi, I'm Wes. Thanks for
- 0:12starting your day with me. Or whatever time of day you'll listen. I'm
- 0:16gonna assume maybe it's in the morning. I don't know for sure. Either
- 0:21way, thanks for tuning in. And let's just jump right into it,
- 0:25shall we. I mean on this Thursday the thirteenth, which to me is
- 0:30definitely worse than a Friday the thirteenth, right because at least on Friday the
- 0:35thirteenth, it's Friday. That's something that my good friend Scott Miller and I
- 0:39have tried to convince everyone for years, and people freak out and break out
- 0:43there tristadeca phobia or whatever it's called. I'm not a phobiaologist. I don't
- 0:49know. I don't know what it is. I think that's how you say
- 0:52it. But anyway, Thursday the thirteenth got another day to go. It's
- 0:57not Monday the thirteenth would be the worst though, right, unless it's on
- 1:00a holiday. All right, let's let's jump into this as we're learning a
- 1:06little bit more about what it means to follow the science as now a Republican
- 1:15led select subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic, learning more information from some of the
- 1:25scientists that were involved in what seems more and more obvious, more and more
- 1:33apparent as we go, a cover up of the lab origin for COVID,
- 1:42basically saying many of them admitting that this is quite a bit of a political
- 1:49move to avoid problems and issues with China. A number of scientists have spoken
- 2:00up about this, and they basically say that they were employed fatally flawed science
- 2:08to avoid blaming China for the COVID nineteen pandemic. They did not want anyone
- 2:15to suspect that COVID came from a lab. And that's when you remember the
- 2:20now infamous paper that came out and said, no, no, no,
- 2:23this has a natural origin, doesn't have anything to do with a lab.
- 2:31It couldn't have come from a lab. And all of you people who think
- 2:37that this came from a lab are conspiracy theorists. Okay. Subcommittee's words to
- 2:45describe their conclusion of their study on this is that this is the very anatomy
- 2:52of a cover up. Okay, So let's just talk a little bit about
- 2:59what it means to follow the science. And we heard a lot of that
- 3:01from doctor Fauci, and when anybody challenged him on anything, he basically asserted,
- 3:07to question me is to question science, declaring effectively that he is science.
- 3:15Can't question him, can't challenge him. His opinion is everything. His
- 3:20opinion is the opinion of science. We have this very distorted view now that
- 3:27the way that we conduct science is you get a group of scientists together,
- 3:30they come up with a consensus and they tell everybody, this is science.
- 3:35Now believe it because we say so. We've gone through a number of these
- 3:43over there. The other day I mentioned, I mean, there was a
- 3:46time when, you know, a consensus of scientists believe that the Earth was
- 3:52the center of the universe. Everything rotated around the Earth. A consensus of
- 3:58scientists at the time, I believed that. And suddenly if you started to
- 4:03step up and it doesn't seem right, we all seem to be moving around.
- 4:09You know, that really large hot nuclear reactor in the sky. Maybe
- 4:15it's the very center of our own I don't know, solar system, maybe
- 4:18not the universe, but it seems much more likely than everything's rotating around us.
- 4:24Just just kind of you know following the science. Ah, you can't
- 4:28say that we have a consensus. We've had a number of consensuses or the
- 4:33consensus, my Latin is not great. We have a number of things that
- 4:41we've been told there's a consensus on as a consensus on at the time it
- 4:46wasn't climate change, it was a global warming. There's a consensus on that.
- 4:51No one else disagrees, No other scientist disagrees. Well, here's some
- 4:56scientists disagree. Well, they're conspiracy theorists. They're their quack jobs. They
- 5:02are not reputable scientists because they're not in the consensus. Right, you get
- 5:08become disavowed as a scientist. You don't agree with us and we're right.
- 5:16So if you don't agree with us and we're right, that means you're wrong.
- 5:24And we've seen quite a bit of that, haven't we. We've seen
- 5:27a lot. We see that TV shows like The View or A Real Time
- 5:31with Bill Maher is a handful of these shows that they come on. I
- 5:35guess some of the others, like I think Drew Barrymore has turned political for
- 5:39some reason, and they do these shows where the premise of the show is
- 5:45we're gonna bring in somebody that's gonna talk with a panel that the audience is
- 5:51on the side of the panel, and if they agree with the panel,
- 5:55the audience is going to clap and they're gonna give this very strong affirmative reaction
- 5:59to what they say. And if they disagree with the panel, the audience
- 6:03is gonna boo. They're gonna hiss and boo and scream and whatever, and
- 6:09that's going to send a very strong message to people watching at home. The
- 6:14panel's right, the person opposing them must be wrong because we see it.
- 6:20You can hear the affirmations of those feelings, right, That's what's there.
- 6:27It's why a lot of these times when you see a show when they have
- 6:30a group of people. Fox even has one. They've got their show The
- 6:33Five, and one of the people on there is a liberal. They try
- 6:39to have at least one liberal on there. It was Horoldo for a while,
- 6:41and they've had some other people, but ultimately, you know, this
- 6:45kind of they kind of gang up on them. I don't think they do
- 6:47a lot of ganging up on them on that. But there's no audience to
- 6:50scream and jeer and whatever. There's no audience there to affirm what is supposed
- 6:57to be the right message that goes with it. So this consensus notion.
- 7:02Sometimes for us, we'll toss out the window any idea of maybe, I
- 7:08don't know, actually following the science, because God forbid, we upset China
- 7:14by holding them accountable or asking them to be accountable for what may have been
- 7:19something created in a lab there for whatever reasons, Because God forbid, we
- 7:25start following that path, and then maybe I don't know, find out that
- 7:28it was made as a weapon or whatever. I don't know. Do we
- 7:32know why they made it? Not definitely, do we know for certain they
- 7:38made it? Starting to look that way, we have a number of things
- 7:42that we can start asking questions about and wondering why we were paying a lot
- 7:46of money to someone in the US to deny it. I mean, if
- 7:50this subcommittee is correct, then I suppose we should hold everyone accountable, shouldn't
- 8:00we? Including anybody that was an American that was involved in trying to cover
- 8:07it up. I mean, I think they should be held accountable, shouldn't
- 8:09they, Especially if they declare themselves to be science. If they are science,
- 8:16and if they are in fact, you can't question them, you know.
- 8:22I mean they're the high final word, if that's what they are by
- 8:28their declaration, and then they end up telling us something that's just not true.
- 8:31And if we have any reason to think that they knew it wasn't true,
- 8:35shouldn't they be held accountable? Yes? So when did we stop actually
- 8:41following science? Because consensus isn't science taking something that's been scientifically sound for tens
- 8:52of thousands of years and just deciding one day we're going to change this part
- 8:58of science. This is the way it should have been all along. Okay.
- 9:03For example, I don't know how many thousands of years has it been
- 9:09pretty much established that there were two main genders two two. They still use
- 9:20it, by the way, in I don't know zoology, right, they
- 9:24still do it with animals. They still sit down and they say, this
- 9:28is a male bird, this is the female bird. This is the way
- 9:33the male bird and the female bird court one another so that they may have
- 9:39relations. Oh, okay, that's how that works, all right. Now.
- 9:43This is I don't know, a male hyena, and this is a
- 9:48female hyena, and this is how they court in one another so that they
- 9:52may have relations. It's still the way it's discussed in nature there's no talk
- 9:58of, you know, gender being something that's potentially fluid. That's not something
- 10:03that's I don't know. Maybe there are scientists somewhere. There probably are,
- 10:07but this notion that we're just going to throw all of that out the window
- 10:11without any actual science, we're basing it on, Well, this is how
- 10:16we feel, this is how some people feel, this is the way it
- 10:20makes us feel. We want them to feel safe and comfortable. So we're
- 10:22going to go with this. I've said many times I don't care how anyone
- 10:30wants to live their life as long as it doesn't affect someone else's life.
- 10:35Go be you, go do what you want to do. But the day
- 10:37that you tell me that I have to agree with you on whatever you think
- 10:43about it, that's when it becomes challenging for me. When you tell me
- 10:48that I have to use a word like they in place of a word like
- 10:54he or she, When our very language tells us what they means, and
- 10:58that it means more than one person, it's challenging. My brain isn't wired
- 11:05to look at a person and refer to them as they, even though I
- 11:09guess I did just say them, but because I was using it as a
- 11:11gender neutral m So where they got this from? So the idea of saying
- 11:20that he or she has to be called they, and if I slip up
- 11:28and I say he or she instead of they, and then someone gets very
- 11:31upset. You can't do that. It's because my brain isn't wired to speak
- 11:37in that terminology. That way, I can do my best. I don't
- 11:41want to offend anybody. I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. I'm the
- 11:43last person who wants to hurt someone's feelings. We've done this with a number
- 11:48of things. We do it on the subject of abortion. How about it's
- 11:56just a clump of cells, and when you remove that clump of cells,
- 12:00you're not really killing a baby. It's just a clump of cells. Okay,
- 12:03is it just a clump of cells? If you want to have the
- 12:07baby, well no, then it's a baby. So if you want to
- 12:13keep the clump of cells in your mind, it's a baby. If you
- 12:18don't want to keep the clump of cells, then it's not a baby.
- 12:22How does that work exactly? How can you just decide mentally whether or not
- 12:28the unborn clump of cells in your body is or is not alive. You
- 12:33get to decide that based on how you would like to see the pregnancy end,
- 12:41either with a child born or without a child born. So based on
- 12:46what you see as the end result, that determines whether or not the clump
- 12:52of cells is a child. Because a pregnant woman gets murdered, some one
- 13:00gets charged with two homicides, the unborn baby is also considered a murder.
- 13:09But if you don't want the baby and then you decide it's a clump of
- 13:15cells and we're going to end it, then it was never a baby.
- 13:18It's very confusing, and again science should tell us something, shouldn't it.
- 13:22It's the whole notion of how do you define a woman? Why are we
- 13:26having a hard time defining what a woman is? Even if we're going to
- 13:31say that there's twenty five other genders or however many we're up to now,
- 13:37Even if you're going to say that, why is it hard to decide what
- 13:41a definition for a woman is, what a definition for a man is,
- 13:43what a definition for each of those genders is. Why is that difficult?
- 13:48Why is it difficult to say that a man cannot have a baby, because
- 13:56if a woman transitions into a man, and as a baby. That's not
- 14:01a man having a baby, because what you're really trying to say is that
- 14:09a person born with male genitalia has now birth to baby, and that's not
- 14:18something that's possible. But we all understand when we see a man that used
- 14:24to be a woman who now has a beard and is living as a man
- 14:28gets pregnant and has a baby, everybody knows what's happened. But the headlines
- 14:33will tell you man has child. That's not what happened. Someone who's transition
- 14:39into being a man has had a child. There's something about the verbiage,
- 14:46there's something about the wording of it. But again, this comes back to
- 14:48the follow the science, right, Is it really that difficult just to follow
- 14:54the science. Here's another one. Remember when it was just global warming.
- 15:01Remember when we were told we're all going to die. Global warming is what's
- 15:05gonna end up killing us all, and we won't make it into the late
- 15:07nineties. The whole planet will be a ball of fire by then, And
- 15:11then it wasn't, and then no, by twenty ten, it's going to
- 15:13be a ball of fire and we're all going to be dead. No,
- 15:16no, no, by twenty twenty we're all going to be dead and a
- 15:20ball of fire. And it got especially interesting when when you started to hear
- 15:26that global warming was going to cause an ice age, and then they said,
- 15:33well, because it's getting cooler, Well that's what's going to trigger global
- 15:37warming is going to do that. And they said, well, no,
- 15:39we're gonna stop calling it global warming because it does sound dumb to say that
- 15:43global warming is going to cause And I remember they made that movie. They
- 15:46made that movie where the whole planet was covered in snow and ice. Right,
- 15:50everything just froze over and the whole planet was just frozen solid. And
- 15:58they said this was caused to buy global warming. And you think, I
- 16:02don't want to explain this to me, give me some science. It's going
- 16:07to explain to me why the planet is going to get so hot that it's
- 16:11going to freeze. I don't think that's how it works. I don't understand
- 16:15how something can get so hot. And they said, no, no,
- 16:18no, Now it's we're going to call it climate change because it can fluctuate.
- 16:22It can get hot and then it can get cold. It gets hotter
- 16:26and colder, and we go from one extreme to the other, and it's
- 16:30you know, maybe like ten years it's like hotter and then it gets cooler
- 16:33for about ten years, and overall it's getting warmer, and we really don't
- 16:40know why. We have some explanation for some of the reasons of it,
- 16:44but we've only really been keeping up with temperatures since I don't know, around
- 16:48the Civil War. It's not like we've been keeping records of temperatures for thousands
- 16:52of years. To compare it to no, we got like one hundred and
- 16:56fifty years of it, right, something like that. We got about one
- 16:59hundred fifty years of quasi recorded temperatures, and some of those are early ones
- 17:04weren't all that accurate. But if you change the name of and you go,
- 17:08well, now we're gonna call it, we're gonna call it climate change,
- 17:11because you know, it's gonna get hotter, then it's gonna get colder,
- 17:18and it's gonna get hotter and colder and hotter and colder. Overall,
- 17:21it's getting hotter, but about every ten years, I don't know, is
- 17:25that like a solar cycle? What happens every ten years solar cycle? So
- 17:30yeah, there's a big some question that we're in. We're in solar maximum,
- 17:33right, now and when people walk outside they say, oh my gosh,
- 17:37it's so hot. You can tell things are just hotter than they ever
- 17:40were. This is the hottest it's ever been. Oh my gosh, it's
- 17:41never been so hot. It's actually not been here. I mean it's hot,
- 17:48it's definitely hot, but it's not it's not the hottest it's ever been.
- 17:55I've felt hotter. I'm gonna be honest, I've been a lot hotter.
- 17:57They go, what it feels like a hund two? Somebody said that
- 18:02yesterday it feels like one hundred and two. I can think of July's in
- 18:07the last i don't know, ten fifteen years where it was one hundred and
- 18:11two and it felt like one hundred and eight, one hundred and nine.
- 18:17I remember those. You remember those? Yeah, So I don't think this
- 18:21is the hottest. I mean spring was pretty mild. We got a mild
- 18:23spring for a change. And again I'm not poo pooing any of this.
- 18:29Go be you, go be whatever gender you want to be. Go.
- 18:37Don't ask me for money. Don't ask me to fund billions of dollars so
- 18:42we're going to fix the planet. Don't ask me for that, But go
- 18:48study it, try to figure out why gradually we're slowly moving up by point
- 18:52two degrees every five years or whatever it is. I don't know that that's
- 18:59going to mean we're gonna die. I've already heard these people saying, Oh
- 19:02my gosh, Georgia and Florida, it's gonna be too hot to even live.
- 19:04You're gonna be to go outside and breathe. You're gonna have to move
- 19:07to the north. We're just I don't know, we're in solar maximum now,
- 19:12and I don't know eight years or so they're gonna start going down again.
- 19:17That's what they do. They kind of fluctuate. It's not completely solved,
- 19:22but that's part of it. Some scientists say no, no, no,
- 19:26it doesn't have anything to do that consensus. We say it doesn't have
- 19:30anything to do with that. And I'm not a climatologist. That may actually
- 19:34be the word climatologist. I actually almost got one correct just by stumbling my
- 19:41way into it. So yeah, let's follow the science. Let's follow the
- 19:47actual science, and let's follow the science when it's hard. Let's follow the
- 19:51science when we have to stand up to China. Let's follow the science when
- 19:55we have to stand up to the extreme people on the far left that say,
- 20:00I know what science really tells us, but we're gonna say it's this
- 20:03many genders. It's okay, you can stand up to that. It's possible
- 20:08to stand up to science. Stand up four science. I should say the
- 20:14people when it's hard and when the people that oppose you don't want you to
- 20:19do it. It's possible to stand up for science. Follow it. You
- 20:22can follow the actual science. You can follow the science and decide, okay,
- 20:29well, if we decide that this is when life ends, then this
- 20:33is when life begins. If when a heartbeat stops, that means life ends,
- 20:40right, it's usually the consensus consensus. Can we say that when the
- 20:45heartbeat starts, that's when life begins? I mean, is that a fair
- 20:49book end for what life is? Well, that's you know, that's one.
- 20:52You've got all these six week five six week abortion bands because that's what
- 20:59people are saying, Well, we're going to follow that. That's the science.
- 21:03You can't follow the science. That's too early for the mother to know.
- 21:06They can't possibly know. Well, what are we doing? Are we
- 21:07following the science? Are we following the convenience? And again it's about standing
- 21:15up and following science, even when it's really hard and even when it's really
- 21:21inconvenient. So are the scientists involved in this what the subcommittee calls a cover
- 21:27up, the anatomy of a cover up, specifically how they referred to it.
- 21:33Are they going to hold these people accountable? I guess we'll find out.
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- 26:27be a nice story. It's summertime and we have the occasional pop up thunderstorm.
- 26:37It's always a possibility that it's going to happen. And the experts reminding
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- 29:07In twenty nineteen, the same survey found that losing weight and maintaining weight or
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- 29:23So there you go. Can it be both? I guess it could.
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- 30:37as well as companies like SpaceX, Blue Origin, Axiom Space, and Boeing.
- 30:42Plus we fill you in on what's happening beyond our atmosphere, throughout our
- 30:47Solar System, and into the deepest known regions of space. Check out Best
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