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Out of Bounds W/ Dr. Mike "Quick" Outten, Wk #5 NFL 2026 · Bears Banter Talk Show

0:28
SPEAKER_00: Yo, what's up, what's up, what's up?
0:31
SPEAKER_00: What's up?
0:32
SPEAKER_00: It's out of bounds with Dr.
0:34
SPEAKER_00: Quick, as usual.
0:35
SPEAKER_00: Y'all know, um, Dr.
0:37
SPEAKER_00: Quick.
0:38
SPEAKER_00: Got the executive director sitting there with me today, the executive producer, Bernard Muhammad Nutty.
0:44
SPEAKER_00: Hey, what's up?
0:44
SPEAKER_00: What's up, man?
0:45
SPEAKER_01: Hey, I've been waiting on out of bounds, man.
0:48
SPEAKER_01: Man, some out of bounds this weekend, boy.
0:51
SPEAKER_00: Man, you know, you came ready.
0:53
SPEAKER_00: Let me let me get ready for the show because you know, you know how we how we gotta do it.
0:57
SPEAKER_00: You gotta, you know, you come, you gotta put your hat on to the back because we get we gotta roll our sleeves up for this week, man.
1:02
SPEAKER_00: There's a lot that's going on.
1:04
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, hey, let's start off by doing this.
1:08
SPEAKER_00: People, we need your help.
1:10
SPEAKER_00: We do we normally do the Rudy Pooh candy ass at the end of the show.
1:14
SPEAKER_00: There are so many this week that we decided to do a survey because it's hard to just pick one.
1:22
SPEAKER_00: It's too many people, man.
1:23
SPEAKER_00: It's too many people.
1:24
SPEAKER_00: So we we we got a survey that's gonna be coming up.
1:28
SPEAKER_00: Man, vote as often as many times you want to for who you want to see be the Rudy Pooh candy ass at the end of the show.
1:36
SPEAKER_00: It's it's a lot going on, man, this week.
1:38
SPEAKER_00: So, man, let's start off by talking about the White Sox and their epic crash being up 2-0 to the Cleveland Indians in the in the uh the AL division series.
1:53
SPEAKER_00: Man, we had to win one game.
1:55
SPEAKER_00: We beat them twice at home.
1:57
SPEAKER_00: We had to come back here, and I'm like, man, we're gonna clinch one of these games at home.
2:02
SPEAKER_00: We ain't even got to go back to Cleveland and the White Sox, man.
2:07
SPEAKER_00: I'm talking about they laid an egg, and when I say an egg, I'm looking at the stats.
2:13
SPEAKER_00: They struck out 21 times in game five.
2:18
SPEAKER_00: It's only 27 outs.
2:20
SPEAKER_00: So you mean that's that is seven innings straight worth the strikeouts?
2:27
SPEAKER_00: Seven innings.
2:28
SPEAKER_00: That that is that is abysmal.
2:30
SPEAKER_00: Abysmal as a baseball team that far in the playoffs.
2:35
SPEAKER_00: Then I looked it up.
2:36
SPEAKER_00: Hell, they struck out 19 times in game four.
2:40
SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, we talk about consistency.
2:42
SPEAKER_00: I I know the team is young, we just couldn't get timely hitting.
2:46
SPEAKER_00: Uh, Merikami is, I mean, he struck out four times by himself, and he's the number four hitter, supposed to be the next thing to show hey Otani.
2:59
SPEAKER_00: And my man, I mean, I said this after he got hurt in June.
3:03
SPEAKER_00: My man couldn't hit a fat lady in the butt with a two by four.
3:07
SPEAKER_00: He couldn't hit the ball no more.
3:10
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it was bad.
3:11
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, dang, I'm a man.
3:14
SPEAKER_00: He was hit or miss.
3:15
SPEAKER_00: Like, he either hit a home run or he was gonna strike out multiple times.
3:20
SPEAKER_00: I went to the white side game and the usher he hit a home run.
3:24
SPEAKER_00: The usher said, but then it's about time.
3:27
SPEAKER_00: I said, Man, I said, Man, everybody knows this dude has struck out four times, and then you had Coast and Montgomery who led the league in strikeouts, so that's not a good combination, man.
3:39
SPEAKER_00: I I mean, I don't know if you had followed the series or not, man, but the socks came up and just straight boo-boo.
3:46
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they just laid an egg in the series, man.
3:50
SPEAKER_01: Look, man, my my uh I don't follow baseball as much as I used to, but I I follow it through my uh older brother, and you know, he he's a diehard socks fan, and when they went up too, he like, man, you know, just get this close this one out, and then look around, he's like all they lost today.
4:06
SPEAKER_01: Then next time, he's yeah, lost again.
4:09
SPEAKER_01: I was like, Man, then I'm on my app trying to keep up because I'm out of town, I'm trying to keep up with the score for the third game.
4:16
SPEAKER_01: What was it, Friday?
4:17
SPEAKER_01: I think it was Friday.
4:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, looking at it, and I'm like, Oh man, when I looked at it, it was in the sixth inning.
4:23
SPEAKER_01: I think they were down by a couple runs.
4:25
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, Katie bought the door.
4:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, they really got beat by one person, Jose Ramirez.
4:33
SPEAKER_00: Man, the the dude who whooped Tim Anderson a couple years ago at second base, he whooped the socks again by himself, man.
4:40
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he just straight up.
4:42
SPEAKER_01: Oh, the guy that got into a fight with him, yeah.
4:44
SPEAKER_00: With him, yeah, that was the guy who hit all the ones in.
4:47
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's a straight socks butt whooper, man.
4:50
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he he fights you on the field in the battles box, and and I mean, he had an outstanding performance, man.
4:57
SPEAKER_00: And I was just like, that's a tough way to lose.
5:00
SPEAKER_00: And the Sox are young, so I see them coming.
5:04
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they they need a they need a couple things, they need a uh uh some some more for sure hitting.
5:09
SPEAKER_00: They need a couple of pitches, they're pretty solid on defense, they don't make a lot of errors, but they I mean they actually overachieved this year, and I thought they had a chance, especially, you know, shoot, they were undefeated in the uh playoffs for a while, wasn't losing at all.
5:26
SPEAKER_00: And and they was what they said like winning ugly back in the day, but I mean they they they just kept on, and um, you know, they just had too many strikeouts.
5:37
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, well, damn, you don't even strike out that much in T-ball, man.
5:40
SPEAKER_00: God dog, like man, bunt the ball or something, man.
5:44
SPEAKER_00: Just put the ball in play, and I mean, when you're striking out that much, man, you you're not getting nobody on base.
5:51
SPEAKER_00: I think they got one hit in one game.
5:53
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, man, this is terrible.
5:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's the that's the problem.
5:57
SPEAKER_01: Like when the playoff, when you um striking out like that, it's really nothing you could do, you know, as far as you know, in the breaking season, you know, you you could get in some extra time, maybe you got to replace the batten coach or something, right?
6:10
SPEAKER_01: That you could do.
6:11
SPEAKER_01: But once you're in those playoff series like that, you the hit or you're not, you know, you're gonna hit or you're not gonna hit, and it's disappointing, man, because you had a great season and you got through the first round, you up on this, you know, series too old, and you think, man, you know, just get one, you don't need but one now at this point.
6:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you had to win one out of three, you had to win one out of three, and got swept in the last three.
6:37
SPEAKER_00: I'm pissed because you know, I was a uh 40-game season ticket holder before this year, and so the the years I had tickets was the years they lost 100 games, right?
6:49
SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, a lot of y'all know I umpired college baseball, so a lot of times during the early part of the season, I can't get to the game.
6:56
SPEAKER_00: Man, I couldn't even give these tickets away for people to go see the socks.
7:01
SPEAKER_00: So I was like, Man, you know, I ain't gonna even renew.
7:03
SPEAKER_00: They was calling me renew.
7:04
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I ain't gonna even renew, and now they ain't gonna playoff team.
7:07
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh man, I picked the wrong year, you know, to give them up.
7:11
SPEAKER_00: So I was just like, dang, man.
7:14
SPEAKER_00: And I I could have been to a couple more games this year.
7:17
SPEAKER_00: I only made it to maybe about two or three, and the the atmosphere back at uh Rake Field was electric, man.
7:25
SPEAKER_00: We got there at like 4:30 and for a six o'clock game, and people was it was lions galore just to get in.
7:33
SPEAKER_00: I was like, man, I remember I used to walk in.
7:35
SPEAKER_00: The usher be like, Hey, where you wanna sit at?
7:37
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
7:39
SPEAKER_00: Just you know, we we got plenty of good seats still available, man.
7:42
SPEAKER_00: Just sit where you want to sit at, man.
7:44
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, hopefully the Sox can get it together next year and come back.
7:49
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, hopefully that team up north, you know, they they got all those big names up there, and they just laid an egg as well.
7:56
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, just you know, that's too quick.
8:01
SPEAKER_01: Man, here's the thing, too.
8:03
SPEAKER_01: Quick, man, sitting up here, man.
8:05
SPEAKER_01: They they get off to a good start, then right near the end of the season, they start losing, and you you know, you start saying, Man, and hope it can still squeak in, right?
8:16
SPEAKER_01: So they end up getting in.
8:19
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
8:20
SPEAKER_01: Then they they they the first round, they do their thing.
8:24
SPEAKER_01: So you say, okay, so now all the participation type of stuff, you know, based off like last year, the last few years, right?
8:30
SPEAKER_01: The socks haven't been good.
8:32
SPEAKER_01: You you you know, you throw that out the window now.
8:34
SPEAKER_01: You like, hey, y'all in there now.
8:35
SPEAKER_01: You the one the first round, and you up by two.
8:38
SPEAKER_01: Hey, it ain't about now, like, hey, this successful because we made it to the playoff.
8:42
SPEAKER_01: No, you got to keep battling now.
8:44
SPEAKER_01: You got our hopes up, man.
8:46
SPEAKER_01: Now we sitting up here, even got me sitting up here trying to figure out and cheer for them, and I'm about to dig up some, you know, some old uh white size gear, man.
8:55
SPEAKER_01: You know, right.
8:57
SPEAKER_01: They didn't give me a chance to find it and then they uh end up blowing the three in a row.
9:01
SPEAKER_01: Like, oh man, come on, yeah, man.
9:04
SPEAKER_00: Hey, you know, and not only them, man.
9:06
SPEAKER_00: You know, we we did Bears Vana yesterday, and uh we recapped the Bears game.
9:11
SPEAKER_00: Wasn't much to recap, uh, because they lost to the Packers 31 to 7.
9:16
SPEAKER_00: But I mean, just just to kind of reiterate some of the things that we talked about yesterday.
9:21
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, Tyson Bajan, I call him the double agent now.
9:26
SPEAKER_00: Uh that that guy just flat out sucked.
9:29
SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's there's nothing that we could even muster up to even try to make that performance good, you know.
9:36
SPEAKER_00: And and you know, going into that game and knowing what that game means to the city of Chicago, and you go out there and play like that, the man had a 24% passing rating, you know, and most of those were check down plays that he completed.
9:52
SPEAKER_00: Uh and that was just bad, man.
9:55
SPEAKER_00: Just a bad game.
9:57
SPEAKER_00: You know, y'all boy, it ain't my boy, you know, Jalen Johnson out there getting burnt left and right.
10:03
SPEAKER_00: I've been talking about this dude, and when we had Sean Sierra on the show, we talked about this guy, and those and and like we say, those are zone corners trying to play man, they are not man-to-man cups.
10:18
SPEAKER_00: It's a total difference, right?
10:20
SPEAKER_00: You got to be able to be versatile to play both styles.
10:24
SPEAKER_00: I was lucky enough to be able to play both styles because I kind of played man in the zone.
10:29
SPEAKER_00: You still have to play man in the zone because if you just go to your area of the zone and not guarding the people that's in the zone, you doing the zone no good.
10:39
SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, I don't know technique-wise, they don't do well man to man, him and Tyreek Stevenson are struggling this year.
10:48
SPEAKER_00: You kind of give it to the rookies to say, all right, that's some growing pains that they got to go through.
10:52
SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, just learning the NFL, learning the league, learning tendencies and things of that nature, and hopefully they get better and better and better as the year goes on.
11:03
SPEAKER_00: But them veteran guys, we talking about this guy.
11:06
SPEAKER_00: The year that he won the Pro Bowl, I was saying, uh, that's fool's goal.
11:10
SPEAKER_00: When he when he went to the Pro Bowl, made all pro.
11:13
SPEAKER_00: I was like, That's fool's goal.
11:14
SPEAKER_00: That dude ain't that good.
11:15
SPEAKER_00: I've been saying this how long?
11:17
SPEAKER_00: At least five years now.
11:19
SPEAKER_00: You know, this dude ain't that good.
11:21
SPEAKER_00: And everybody, ah man, you just hating on the brother, man.
11:25
SPEAKER_00: You hating on him now.
11:26
SPEAKER_00: And that on Facebook on uh you know, Facebook on Sunday, man.
11:31
SPEAKER_00: Everybody's like, Man, that boy needs to go to the infirmary, he's so burnt, man.
11:34
SPEAKER_01: Right, right, right.
11:36
SPEAKER_01: Right, look, Jalen Johnson gets so burned so bad, man.
11:40
SPEAKER_01: You know what, you know how you burn your toast in the toaster, and you you're trying to decide if you're gonna throw it away or you're gonna get that butter knife off and scrape some of that burn off it, and then you start eating it, you'll be like, Man, it still tastes nasty.
11:52
SPEAKER_01: That's Jalen, that's Jalen Johnson.
11:54
SPEAKER_01: Now, to Tyson Bajan, that Bajan seed.
11:58
SPEAKER_01: Look, Tyson Bajan is Shane Matthews.
12:05
SPEAKER_01: He's Shane Matthews.
12:07
SPEAKER_01: Shane Matthew, you know, Jay Matthew played uh in the Florida, and he ended up with the Bears.
12:16
SPEAKER_01: Shane Matthew was a good college quarterback.
12:21
SPEAKER_01: Hit that rubber bear arm too.
12:24
SPEAKER_01: And he was like a guy that he ended up like on the Bears, and you were here as well of people saying, Man, you know what?
12:32
SPEAKER_01: If you could get Shane Matthews in there, they you know, and I think what ended up happening, I want to say he played at the same time as Jim Miller.
12:39
SPEAKER_01: And Jim Miller get an injury, Shane comes in, and this I think this is right around um what was the guy's name?
12:50
SPEAKER_01: Um, it was the coach, kind of the buggy eyes.
12:53
SPEAKER_01: He was playing for Pittsburgh back in the day.
12:55
SPEAKER_01: I can't think of his name, but it was right before Luffy.
12:58
SPEAKER_01: He ended up having a touchdown.
13:00
SPEAKER_00: They wanna say it, probably.
13:02
SPEAKER_01: No, no, he was right after, uh he was right after them.
13:05
SPEAKER_01: He had this one lucky season where he went 13 and 3, and then all the rest of the season sucked.
13:11
SPEAKER_01: But anyway, they ended up having these games where Shane Matthew threw these back-to-back.
13:16
SPEAKER_01: Uh it was like plays where it was like uh I shouldn't even say he threw it.
13:21
SPEAKER_01: One, he threw a hell married, then one week they had two walk-offs by Mike Brown, Dick Gerard.
13:26
SPEAKER_01: That was the coach name.
13:27
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, yeah.
13:29
SPEAKER_01: But Shane, once he started playing more than that mop up, you know, just coming in for I think it was what you realize.
13:37
SPEAKER_01: Shane Matthew just did not have an arm at all.
13:40
SPEAKER_01: Anything beyond a bubble screen, it was it was gonna be you know, it was on float in the air.
13:47
SPEAKER_01: So I'm glad that we've solved this question, this uh question of the people who be trolling to me.
13:54
SPEAKER_01: I'm saying they trolling when they used to say Beijing was better than Caleb.
13:59
SPEAKER_01: So let's stop the nonsense.
14:01
SPEAKER_01: Stop it.
14:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, if you if you still saying that, man, you should be with Montez Sweat getting drug tested.
14:08
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
14:10
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I mean, just just call it what it is, man.
14:13
SPEAKER_00: This this dude had a poor performance, and he never really has had an excellent performance.
14:21
SPEAKER_00: I mean, sure, he won a game with the Jets.
14:25
SPEAKER_00: Uh, technically, uh, whatchamacallit started.
14:28
SPEAKER_00: Uh Case Keaton started at quarterback against the Jets.
14:31
SPEAKER_00: But, you know, that's neither here nor there.
14:33
SPEAKER_00: But that was the game that Cal Manunga had, like 230 yards rushing.
14:38
SPEAKER_00: You know, so that that's not really on the quarterback to say, yeah, yeah, I took that win, whatever, because he he didn't have any touchdowns throwing the ball.
14:48
SPEAKER_00: And he hasn't had many, he's had more interceptions than touchdown throws in the league.
14:54
SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, he's not a he's not a guy.
14:57
SPEAKER_00: You know who the bet the best bears backup is gonna go down as ever in the history of the Bears, right?
15:05
SPEAKER_00: Cal Orton.
15:06
SPEAKER_00: Cal Orton won 10 in a row, took him to the Super Bowl, and then the Bears decided decided to start uh Rex Grossman, and we lost in the Super Bowl.
15:15
SPEAKER_00: I mean, like, how do you take a guy out that's won 10 games in a row?
15:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know what?
15:20
SPEAKER_01: You know, let me correct that.
15:22
SPEAKER_01: Let me correct that quick because I've been have been mixing that up for years, man.
15:27
SPEAKER_01: I had said the same thing.
15:28
SPEAKER_01: My guy from high school, he's on Bears Banner page.
15:32
SPEAKER_01: Uh Zepp uh Zeppin, uh Zepplon Israel, he corrected me.
15:37
SPEAKER_01: I had to look it up because I was like, Man, I swear I was right.
15:42
SPEAKER_01: So the year before the Super Bowl, Rex get hurt early in the season.
15:48
SPEAKER_01: Kyle Orton wins these games.
15:50
SPEAKER_01: They lose the first round.
15:52
SPEAKER_01: This is actually the peanut tiltman game when people was kind of questioning it because Steve Smith was burning him, which was the Carolina Panthers.
16:00
SPEAKER_01: They got eliminated the first round.
16:02
SPEAKER_01: The next year the Bears got Brian Greasy and moved Kyle Orton to third string.
16:10
SPEAKER_01: Rex Grossman played the whole season and went to the Super Bowl and fumbled it away.
16:16
SPEAKER_01: But most of us, for some reason, we heard uh-uh.
16:22
SPEAKER_01: No, I I did I bro.
16:24
SPEAKER_01: I had been doing it for years too, until he corrected me about three years ago.
16:28
SPEAKER_01: I had to go look it up because I was just convinced.
16:31
SPEAKER_01: Somehow, I don't know how all us a lot of us merged that together.
16:35
SPEAKER_01: That was a year before when Kyle played.
16:38
SPEAKER_01: They got eliminated that first year, I want to say, by Carolina Panthers.
16:42
SPEAKER_01: Then the next year, Rex played the whole year, and that's why he ended up starting.
16:47
SPEAKER_01: Then after that year was over, they traded him.
16:50
SPEAKER_01: I want to say the year over, they traded him to um Denver.
16:56
SPEAKER_01: They traded to Denver because Brian Greasy ended up being.
17:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and Greasy Greasy played in a couple of games here, but I mean, still, hey, hey, the guy won 10 10 games as a backup.
17:18
SPEAKER_00: He did, yeah.
17:19
SPEAKER_00: He sure did.
17:19
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he'll go down as probably the greatest backup in Bez history right now.
17:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so you know, and then let's get back to it, man.
17:28
SPEAKER_00: You know, breaking news today, Montez sweat, get popped off for PDs.
17:34
SPEAKER_00: Now he got to sit for two games.
17:36
SPEAKER_00: I mean, hell, he was sitting when he was playing, you know.
17:39
SPEAKER_00: He wasn't what I mean, he he's not having no breakout season.
17:44
SPEAKER_00: And I said it in our text group today.
17:46
SPEAKER_00: I was like, man, normally they'll test a guy who had an outstanding performance or something.
17:50
SPEAKER_00: I was like, what made them go test him?
17:52
SPEAKER_00: Like, he he ain't doing nothing.
17:55
SPEAKER_00: Like, I mean, Booker Booker had the only two sacks of the game, and if you look at the the the tackle list, sweat barely shows up.
18:05
SPEAKER_00: He he might be on there as a DMP and the game he played majority of the majority of the snaps.
18:12
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, well, man, who be cool went and got this dude to pee in the cook after his performance?
18:19
SPEAKER_00: They they might be like, maybe you need some PDs or something.
18:22
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, man.
18:23
SPEAKER_00: God dog, man.
18:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Mike Thomason was a uh yeah, he yeah, he was a good backup, Mike Thomason.
18:30
SPEAKER_01: I forgot about him.
18:31
SPEAKER_00: He and Tom Jack's from here, he's from the area.
18:36
SPEAKER_00: You know what?
18:37
SPEAKER_01: Steve Steve Fuller didn't Steve Fuller have a good good couple of games when McMahon got hurt.
18:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but yeah, but I don't think none of them ever won 10 in a row, you know.
18:47
SPEAKER_00: Oh no, no, it's outstanding as a backup.
18:50
SPEAKER_01: Correct, correct.
18:51
SPEAKER_00: I mean, shit, most starters can't win 10 in a row, right?
18:54
SPEAKER_00: You know, and for a backup to come in and do that, it's like wow, you know.
18:59
SPEAKER_01: But man, I don't understand what what what uh PEDs that Montez Sweat was popping, dude, get you a refund, man.
19:07
SPEAKER_01: They might have gave you some Flintstone vitamins.
19:10
SPEAKER_01: I don't know, right?
19:10
SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's Flintstone vitamins, and I I don't know how you failed to test because it's supposed to improve your performance, right?
19:19
SPEAKER_01: It definitely didn't.
19:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, if he wrecked somebody like you were saying, like Booker had a good game, he got two sides.
19:25
SPEAKER_01: You say, Hey man, they we need to test him, man, because he's playing out of character.
19:28
SPEAKER_01: I'm talking about Tessweat.
19:30
SPEAKER_01: He was invisible Sunday, so I'm trying to think like matter of fact, I don't even think he played much down the stretch.
19:36
SPEAKER_01: So at first, when I first heard the test, I didn't think PDs, I thought it was a violation of actual, you know, is you know, maybe illegal drugs or something, right?
19:45
SPEAKER_00: Because I don't even think they test for that because I uh you know the players do that before season smoke anyway, though.
19:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, a lot of them do smoke anyway, so it ain't like you know, they ain't they don't it'd be it'd be like you know what I'm saying, it'd be like hard drugs if you fail the test, I think.
20:01
SPEAKER_01: And I think they they they do those hard drugs probably at the beginning of a season.
20:06
SPEAKER_01: I don't think yeah, because of the smoke.
20:07
SPEAKER_01: I think they don't really test them hard for that, but they do randomly test you.
20:13
SPEAKER_00: But after watching major play, he probably did do some hard drugs.
20:17
SPEAKER_00: Like, oh man, we gotta I gotta be high to play this one, man.
20:21
SPEAKER_00: Well, shit.
20:22
SPEAKER_00: Maybe he was out.
20:23
SPEAKER_00: Uh maybe they brought a Diddy party here to Chicago or something.
20:26
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
20:27
SPEAKER_00: You know, maybe it was some baby oil in the system because it was he was so soft and drippy on Sunday, man.
20:33
SPEAKER_00: He was he was bad.
20:35
SPEAKER_00: I mean, like, he didn't even show up at all, like none, none at all.
20:41
SPEAKER_00: Like, right, you didn't even know he's playing.
20:43
SPEAKER_00: He he's having some really bad games, and hopefully he can get it turned around in the near future because you know, we hey listen, hey, hey, listen, people, listen, listen.
20:54
SPEAKER_00: I need y'all Packers fans.
20:58
SPEAKER_00: Y'all beat us, and there's no excuse.
21:01
SPEAKER_00: Not gonna use that.
21:02
SPEAKER_00: We ain't had Caleb.
21:03
SPEAKER_00: We ain't had Mononga, we ain't gonna use Dio guy hurt, we're not gonna use none of that, we're not gonna use that, you know.
21:10
SPEAKER_00: Kobe Bryant ain't playing.
21:12
SPEAKER_00: We're not gonna use none of that.
21:15
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna tell you what, you gotta come here on Christmas Day, and hopefully, player number 18 is playing.
21:25
SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know, y'all beat us last year in the first game.
21:29
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we we all know how that ended up for you, but you know, hey, my my girl Erica had a little jersey on.
21:36
SPEAKER_00: She's been quiet all year.
21:38
SPEAKER_00: Erica Township.
21:39
SPEAKER_00: She's been quiet all year.
21:41
SPEAKER_00: She she come out, post on the little best banner with her, pack a jersey on.
21:46
SPEAKER_00: I started to I started to report her page as harassment on Facebook.
21:53
SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
21:55
SPEAKER_01: Inappropriate, inappropriate conduct.
21:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
21:58
SPEAKER_00: I started to report her page like Man, y'all need to see this.
22:01
SPEAKER_00: This is some garbage right here.
22:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, be careful.
22:03
SPEAKER_00: You do that again, you're gonna be like, they didn't lock my Facebook page out.
22:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because nobody wants to see that.
22:09
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
22:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but your point about Tyson Bage, and you he he throughout his career, I think I mentioned the other day, he's had six starts.
22:20
SPEAKER_01: The sixth start was on Sunday.
22:22
SPEAKER_01: He's thrown three touchdowns and he's thrown nine interceptions.
22:26
SPEAKER_01: That's not a good ratio.
22:27
SPEAKER_01: And so some of that I believe is one, the lack of confidence to throw the ball in the end zone.
22:34
SPEAKER_01: That's why he's not getting touchdowns.
22:36
SPEAKER_01: And uh I always kind of quietly said that Justin Fields was just that bad that it made people overevaluate what Bajan did in those uh four games.
22:52
SPEAKER_01: But if Bajan had actually been really good in those four games that he played when Justin Fields was here, he wouldn't have Justin Fields would have never got the got the uh starting job back.
23:02
SPEAKER_01: They gave it back to him because he ended up turning it over.
23:05
SPEAKER_01: One of the reasons he turned it over is people say he's late on the throw.
23:08
SPEAKER_01: I can't even say he's late on the throw because he's on his throwing motion late.
23:13
SPEAKER_01: I think it's because his arm strength is so uh weak the ball is hanging in the air.
23:20
SPEAKER_01: And if you run it, if it's not a route where you stopping and right and hitting the guy on the spot or an open zone or something quick to the flat, it's gonna hang up, especially if you try to throw in the middle.
23:31
SPEAKER_01: He guys with weak arms cannot throw most of the time is in the middle unless they get in crossing routes or they hitting a uh check down.
23:40
SPEAKER_00: And you you saw the difference when Case Keenum came in the game.
23:44
SPEAKER_00: He, I mean, he's putting the ball up on people, and Tyson Beijing has to wait until you're open to get you the ball.
23:51
SPEAKER_00: You know, he doesn't, I don't think he has a strong belief in his arm because his arm's not strong and believable.
23:58
SPEAKER_00: So he he's trying to not make the mistake, and you can tell the difference too, and watching Caleb.
24:07
SPEAKER_00: Caleb can throw people open, right?
24:10
SPEAKER_00: It'd be many a times you looking like, man, who is he throwing that ball?
24:13
SPEAKER_00: Oh, like the play last year against Green Bay when he threw the ball to Rome.
24:18
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, who the heck is he throwing the ball?
24:21
SPEAKER_00: Never mind.
24:22
SPEAKER_00: All right, first down, you know what I'm saying?
24:24
SPEAKER_00: It's a lot of those throws, and you just see the difference in those types of ball games with Caleb not playing because he makes so much things, so many things happen.
24:36
SPEAKER_00: And the other thing that Caleb has that the other two don't have is escapability.
24:42
SPEAKER_00: Because just when you're thinking that you got him, he can leave out of there for about 20 yards, you know.
24:47
SPEAKER_00: And so that's another aspect of the game that you don't have to prepare for because Beijing ain't running from nobody, he's back there like a sitting duck.
24:57
SPEAKER_00: So that's another aspect of the game you got to prepare for on defense is just when you think you got him, you don't have him because he can run now.
25:05
SPEAKER_00: And then you like, well, Dag, if we close down on him on the run, he's gonna make one of these sand lot throws.
25:12
SPEAKER_00: So it's like, uh, you know, uh, let's just just just try to push him out of bounds, you know.
25:19
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, we we we actually missing that guy, man.
25:22
SPEAKER_00: Hopefully he comes back soon.
25:24
SPEAKER_00: Don't want him to rush back, but Ben Johnson did not definitively say who was gonna start the game on uh Sunday if Caleb was not available.
25:36
SPEAKER_00: And he did not rule out the fact that Caleb would not play.
25:41
SPEAKER_00: So it's a it's a winnable ball game.
25:44
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I'm not sure what happened with Michael Pennings.
25:46
SPEAKER_00: We'll look at the injury report tomorrow to see if he's practicing or not.
25:51
SPEAKER_00: Um, because I think he ended up with a quad injury or something like that, something to the leg injury effect where he might miss some time, but I'm not sure at the time.
26:03
SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, we just gotta wait and see, and hopefully, we can get our guy back in here, and uh, you know, we can get back some continuity with the offense.
26:14
SPEAKER_00: And uh, because sometimes, you know, you as a receiver, this dude throwing a ball, he threw a couple balls, man.
26:20
SPEAKER_00: I was like, man, they better have an ambulance on on ready, you know.
26:24
SPEAKER_01: See, man, look, them hospital balls are gonna get somebody hurt.
26:30
SPEAKER_01: And I and you mentioned something about uh Caleb, you mentioned a lot about Caleb Williams.
26:36
SPEAKER_01: But one thing about Caleb Williams and what happened this weekend is hey, Chicago fans, Caleb Williams is that dude.
26:47
SPEAKER_01: If you're fooling yourself, if you're upset about if he paint his nails, or whatever the other stuff you may Caleb Williams makes a difference on that team.
26:56
SPEAKER_01: The week before 42 minutes possession on offense, Caleb has more than 23 points.
27:03
SPEAKER_01: It's just what it is.
27:05
SPEAKER_01: Also, to add uh you gave two points.
27:08
SPEAKER_01: Here's the third point that I took out of that throw that you talked about in the Green Bay game to Ron.
27:14
SPEAKER_01: Caleb has great vision.
27:17
SPEAKER_01: Caleb, even in the game before that, he's on a side, he throws a ball, a line drive on uh on the sideline just as Michael Parson is closing in on him to the kids.
27:31
SPEAKER_01: I don't even know how the he even saw the kids on that play.
27:35
SPEAKER_01: You remember that little line drive ball he throws on a rope in the Cleveland game last year.
27:40
SPEAKER_01: He throws a ball to DJ.
27:42
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I don't know if he's throwing to the refs, the goal, throwing it away, uh throwing it away.
27:49
SPEAKER_01: All of a sudden, DJ emerges out of a crowd of three people catching the ball.
27:55
SPEAKER_01: Caleb seen that right.
27:57
SPEAKER_01: So it shows you Caleb has great vision and his arm and accuracy, his accuracy is getting there because in the first game he threw for 72, completed 72.
28:11
SPEAKER_01: Game two is a rainy game, man.
28:13
SPEAKER_01: So you know what?
28:14
SPEAKER_01: Let's just let that go, man.
28:15
SPEAKER_01: Let's just move on from that game.
28:16
SPEAKER_01: We got our dude.
28:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so we I mean, we're gonna be all right.
28:21
SPEAKER_00: It's it's still early in the season.
28:23
SPEAKER_00: We got a game against the uh Falcons this week on Sunday.
28:27
SPEAKER_00: Um, and so when we go against the Falcons, we hopefully I don't know where we are with the Monunga injury.
28:38
SPEAKER_00: Hopefully, we can get him back and get Swift.
28:40
SPEAKER_00: I talked about last night.
28:42
SPEAKER_00: Something's wrong with Swift, man.
28:43
SPEAKER_00: I I don't know what it is.
28:45
SPEAKER_00: Uh, because to have him, and you know, dang on well, you don't want Roshan Johnson running the ball, and you got Roshan in there, but you only gave Swift nine carries.
28:57
SPEAKER_00: And I maybe he was like, Man, this game is out of control.
29:00
SPEAKER_00: We need to take him out to try to wrest him some more, try to you know win in the future, whatever.
29:05
SPEAKER_00: But I've been saying that this dude, something has been wrong with him since the first game, even when he had that breakout game.
29:12
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, man, something don't look right about him, man.
29:15
SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, now what they say yesterday.
29:19
SPEAKER_00: I'm tired of looking at Roshan with that dumbass helmet on, you know what I'm saying?
29:25
SPEAKER_00: Man, he came out there with that super huge uh Halo helmet on, and man, I'm like, man, come on, man.
29:34
SPEAKER_01: And uh man, I excuse me, bro.
29:37
SPEAKER_01: I had to look this up and look on my phone to make sure I remember this right.
29:41
SPEAKER_01: Man, this is almost impossible, I believe.
29:44
SPEAKER_01: Roshan Johnson had five rushes, he's supposed to be a power back, six yards, dude.
29:53
SPEAKER_00: That is power, that's one yard a rush, just about what you mean if it's if it's fourth and one, he's our guy, but he ain't they they talked about that, man.
30:04
SPEAKER_00: They was just talking about, and the same thing because remember, before the season, I was like, Man, this dude, he should be cut, and he made the roster.
30:12
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, so how'd he make the roster?
30:14
SPEAKER_00: Like, how is he on the roster?
30:16
SPEAKER_00: And then somebody was like, Man, he's supposed to be the power back, and you look at him, and somebody they was like, he is not an NFL running back.
30:25
SPEAKER_00: I've said that, you said that he's not an NFL running back, and you look at him after looking at Monungai last week, and he was supposed to be Monung guy before there was a Monungai, right?
30:36
SPEAKER_00: And so you look at Monungai, you just like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, here come some and the guys on the other team, like, man, I better make sure I have my mouthpiece in this dude, this little ball gonna come up in here and you know, he he cracked the dude from the uh uh Packers helmet last year.
30:54
SPEAKER_00: Man, I mean that's wow.
30:56
SPEAKER_00: He he he just he's just a a great, like I don't even know how you know, after Pacheco, how he even went to the seventh round.
31:06
SPEAKER_00: That's crazy, like, but hey, he was there for us, and that's great, you know.
31:11
SPEAKER_00: We got a seven, and Pacheco was like a seven-round pick from Ruckers.
31:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
31:16
SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, hey, shout out to Ruckus for developing these seventh-round running backs that make tremendous impacts in the NFL because Roshan Johnson was a third-round pick, and he's terrible.
31:29
SPEAKER_01: Look, that that that that's that's just an example of because you play with somebody greater playing behind somebody great.
31:37
SPEAKER_01: Uh, that when you get time, it's probably that you being a misevaluating.
31:44
SPEAKER_01: That's the point I'm trying to make.
31:45
SPEAKER_01: Roshan Johnson was the backup to B John Robertson, who we're about to play this week in Atlanta.
31:51
SPEAKER_01: He was playing in Texas with him.
31:53
SPEAKER_01: I think it was Texas, yeah, Texas.
31:54
SPEAKER_01: So he got some maybe mop-up carries, or when you know, when B John went to go get a little Gatorade, they knocked a little hole in him.
32:04
SPEAKER_01: Pose got like, man, that guy looked pretty good.
32:07
SPEAKER_01: He was not a third-round guy, he was a guy that should have been that switched their roles, he should have been seven-round, like Magan guy.
32:16
SPEAKER_01: Monong guy should have been earlier, right?
32:18
SPEAKER_01: If you look at what his production is, Mononga, I keep saying he's probably right now has played the best out of all those backs that came out that year up to this point, and you know, there were some people that we were talking about, right?
32:32
SPEAKER_01: It was uh gentry, it was QSAN Junkins.
32:37
SPEAKER_01: It it was a bunch of guys.
32:39
SPEAKER_01: Uh, the guy that ended up in New England who was in the backfield with Johnkins uh at Ohio State.
32:45
SPEAKER_01: You had a bunch of guys that you was like, Man, this is a good running back class.
32:50
SPEAKER_01: And I can remember me personally being upset because when the first day went by, the Bears had not got a running back.
33:00
SPEAKER_01: I can remember the second day I was upset that the Bears had got had not got a running back.
33:07
SPEAKER_01: The last day the Bears get a running back, and I'm like, man, this I'm looking at his tape, right?
33:13
SPEAKER_01: I know he's banging and running people over, but his ruckers and all that.
33:17
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, man, I'm gonna get this little bitty dude, man.
33:21
SPEAKER_01: I'll be honest, I should get the Rudy Two to a poop ass award or whatever.
33:26
SPEAKER_01: I'm sitting up there like, man, that little dude gonna get hurt, man.
33:30
SPEAKER_01: He gotta do seven rounds, seven round guys don't even make the team.
33:34
SPEAKER_01: Man, he sucked.
33:36
SPEAKER_01: Man, this dude ended up now being the best running back, probably in that draft class.
33:40
SPEAKER_00: Right.
33:41
SPEAKER_00: I mean, and it was what's great.
33:42
SPEAKER_00: Some of the I mean, some of them guys have had some decent, some decent games, yeah.
33:47
SPEAKER_00: But Monunga, Barton has stood out above and beyond, you know, because he he gets in the game and he makes stuff happen when he's in there, as far as even if it is his blocking, his passing, I mean, blocking or running or catching, you know, swing passes and all that.
34:04
SPEAKER_00: He he's just a guy that comes in and does his job, and you gotta appreciate a guy like that because you know, being a seven-round pick, you really don't know if you're gonna make the team, like you said.
34:15
SPEAKER_00: And so now he comes in, gotta prove himself.
34:18
SPEAKER_00: Now he's got to prove himself because of his stature in the league and all that.
34:21
SPEAKER_00: And I'm sure that when they watching these films in the defensive room, they are they are counting for number 25.
34:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you gotta account for number 25.
34:31
SPEAKER_00: You you just have to.
34:32
SPEAKER_00: And they know uh, we ain't gotta talk about that guy.
34:35
SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
34:35
SPEAKER_00: We gotta talk about this guy and defensive lineman, put your chin straps on because he's gonna knock your jock strap loose, right?
34:41
SPEAKER_00: Make sure you got all your stuff buttoned up, tape, duct tape if you need it or whatever, because he's coming to place from rock em sock em.
34:48
SPEAKER_00: You know, so that that's good with him.
34:51
SPEAKER_00: But you brought up something, you brought up something very important.
34:55
SPEAKER_00: We can't get past it.
34:57
SPEAKER_00: The number one Texas Longhorns go down.
35:02
SPEAKER_00: So I'm trying to figure out are a lot of their players fool's gold.
35:08
SPEAKER_00: Arch Manning, who they're hyping up for the for the, you know, he he's gotta be probably the worst manning quarterback at the family reunion.
35:17
SPEAKER_00: You know, he's gotta be the worst one.
35:19
SPEAKER_00: You got Peyton, Archie, uh, you know, you got uh Eli and all of them, and he's sitting over there eating the potato salad with the raisins in it.
35:27
SPEAKER_00: You know, like he's gotta be the worst manning quarterback of all times, and they've hyped this boy up so bad, they've hyped him up, hyped him up, hyped him up.
35:39
SPEAKER_00: They were number one this going into this weekend, and of course they lost, you know, as usual.
35:45
SPEAKER_00: That's just you know, when you start hyping up guys, because you know, my my Trinidad Champions to me is the best quarterback right now in the uh in college football, but you know, they whatever, because he's Archie's grandson, and and you know, the Manning brothers, you know, one of them is dad and all that, they trying to depict him to be one of them, and he's never gonna be that.
36:10
SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be hard.
36:12
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he'll get drafted because he's a Madden, right?
36:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but who wants him?
36:19
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
36:20
SPEAKER_00: It's like who's gonna take him and where is he gonna go where he could actually start?
36:25
SPEAKER_00: You know, there's some guys like one of the worst teams in the league is the Chargers.
36:30
SPEAKER_00: They ain't getting rid of Justin Herbert, they're not getting rid of him.
36:34
SPEAKER_01: You know what?
36:36
SPEAKER_01: Um Manny, man.
36:41
SPEAKER_01: At the end of the game, when the game on the line, you're not supposed to throw two picks at the end.
36:46
SPEAKER_01: You know, that's not what you wanted to do, you know.
36:49
SPEAKER_01: So that shows that he cannot right now show that he could he can't uh be able to pull off a game or he's not choking in those moments, yeah.
37:00
SPEAKER_01: Right, it's you can start off a game good because it's zero-zero.
37:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and if you score first and you exchange something, it's all fine and dandy.
37:08
SPEAKER_01: The real work stars with any team is how can you perform in the fourth quarter, and particularly a quarterback.
37:15
SPEAKER_01: If you cannot perform in the fourth quarter, it tells a lot about you.
37:19
SPEAKER_01: That's why I always talk about let me look at this guy's fourth quarter stats that tells you what a guy's worth.
37:26
SPEAKER_01: Can he perform in the fourth quarter?
37:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he he he man, he goes to the founder of reunions.
37:32
SPEAKER_01: They probably got him serving at the table, man.
37:34
SPEAKER_01: They get him like, you know, this is a buffet, but you go serve, you embarrassing the name, man.
37:40
SPEAKER_00: He i mean, he he's been bad majority of his collegiate career.
37:45
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's he's not had any moments where you can hang your hat on and be like, Man, that's gonna be the dude, man.
37:51
SPEAKER_00: You know, like and like I said, I'm looking at Trinidad Chamber and just like, man, this dude here, man.
37:58
SPEAKER_00: He he he got something, you know what I'm saying?
38:01
SPEAKER_00: You look at it dumb, and they it's just like night and day, but yeah, I don't want to spend too much more time.
38:07
SPEAKER_01: I'm glad Trinidad.
38:08
SPEAKER_01: Well, you're saying it though, I'm glad Trinidad did go back because when I watched them last year, I thought early in the season I watched him play a few times and I was not impressed with.
38:19
SPEAKER_01: I'm talking about earlier last season, I was not impressed with him, but by the time they got near the end of the season, I stopped being impressed by Trinidad.
38:27
SPEAKER_01: And when they got down the stretch, I said, Man, you know, this guy might have something.
38:31
SPEAKER_01: And I say, hopefully, he goes back.
38:32
SPEAKER_01: I know he had the uh he had the appeal for eligibility to get back, and I'm glad he did because him going back helped him refine his game, and I think it helped increase his draft stock, right?
38:44
SPEAKER_01: Long as he plays consistency.
38:46
SPEAKER_01: I think if he'd have come out last year, Trinidad probably would have been a second day, late second day guy.
38:54
SPEAKER_01: And the problem with being real late on the second day is you're not gonna get real opportunity.
39:01
SPEAKER_01: What you once you get past the third round, you're not gonna get real opportunity.
39:04
SPEAKER_01: What you're gonna get is if somebody gets hurt, right?
39:07
SPEAKER_01: You're gonna get that opportunity, you know.
39:09
SPEAKER_00: So some of them guys had him up there though on their draft boards because it was between him and um the guy from Indiana that went number one, who's not even playing right now.
39:19
SPEAKER_00: But they some of the guys had Trinidad up there.
39:22
SPEAKER_00: I just think that he might have felt he wasn't ready yet, or or just wanted to increase his stock or whatever he did.
39:30
SPEAKER_00: He he's a player that you could actually fall in love with because right, he threw all them intangible things correct, right?
39:37
SPEAKER_00: He's he's not a perfect player, but he's somebody that's like man, he he's you know, they say he's a great locker room guy, a hard worker, and you know, he's all about team, you know.
39:49
SPEAKER_00: So and he probably l su this last year, too.
39:54
SPEAKER_00: He probably could have went to LSU with Lane Kiffin that last year, you know.
39:58
SPEAKER_01: But if you as a if you as a guy believe you should go back, you probably should go back.
40:04
SPEAKER_01: That's that's the point, too, right?
40:06
SPEAKER_01: Because you because the see the the thing about those drive boys and the quarterbacks always say this the combine is a way to devalue the high guys, and then it's a way to elevate great athletes, and sometimes they elevating great athletes who test well good 40 times, good jump, they jump far, and then you look at their stats, you're like, Man, this dude only caught 35 passes.
40:32
SPEAKER_01: He runs a 4-2, but he only caught 35 passes.
40:36
SPEAKER_01: That's something not connected, right?
40:38
SPEAKER_01: Or you get the guys like uh the guy who was the coach for uh coach quarterback, right?
40:43
SPEAKER_01: For a while, rocking arm, he's throwing the ball and it's hitting the the roof of the facility.
40:48
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's great, but the ball ain't supposed to hit the roof of the facility, right?
40:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's the point and that's kind of like Xavion Thomas for us, you know.
40:57
SPEAKER_00: Four two guy, not a lot of tape on him at receiver.
41:00
SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, we just got him uh basically as a return specialist right now.
41:05
SPEAKER_00: He got in uh the other day, they kept trying to run some reverses with him and stuff.
41:09
SPEAKER_00: I was I was real unimpressed with Ben calling plays this week, and I think it's because he was kind of handicapped.
41:15
SPEAKER_00: And Ben really doesn't tell or show his hand a lot, you know, and say, well, this guy's hurry, we gotta do this, and uh, you know, he's just like, all right, I'm just gonna do the best I can with what I have.
41:26
SPEAKER_00: But to go back to it, man, Texas has put out some players that have not been, you know, besides Bijan, they they man, you know, some of the guys are like hit and miss, and you know, I don't I don't know why that is right now, but Arch Manon, and he they might put Arch Manning as a top 10 pick because of his pedigree, right?
41:51
SPEAKER_00: But Trinidad Chandler's should be a top 10 pick as well, but you know, there's some there's some things that's gonna happen within that that we don't know about, but you know, so hey, I want to I want to switch gears.
42:04
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if we got any anybody in there that actually voted for the Rudy pool.
42:09
SPEAKER_00: We'll still save that uh for later on.
42:13
SPEAKER_01: But hey, can I get let me ask you one question though, quick.
42:16
SPEAKER_01: Did you see Mike Evans grab uh uh yeah, yeah, yeah.
42:20
SPEAKER_00: That that that was hilarious like that.
42:22
SPEAKER_00: That that that was hilarious right there, because you know Mike Evans is Mike Evans probably would be a future Hall of Famer uh down the road.
42:31
SPEAKER_00: And he said he knew who who digs was, but he didn't know he was on that team.
42:36
SPEAKER_00: And he said he's talking trash to the guy and you turned him around, like, who are you, man?
42:40
SPEAKER_00: Like, who is this man?
42:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man, that that's that's classic TV.
42:45
SPEAKER_00: And uh uh what's the big tackle name for San Fran?
42:49
SPEAKER_00: Uh oh man.
42:51
SPEAKER_00: Uh oh my god, the big boy, uh the the the Pro Bowler.
42:58
SPEAKER_00: I can't think of his name, but he was like, he said, he said, man, nobody, you know, like he said Mike has a uh aggression that that you don't expect from a lot of receivers.
43:12
SPEAKER_00: Uh you know, so he's like he he he said it made it made a good laugh because Mike Evans is like, who is this dude, man?
43:21
SPEAKER_00: Like, who's this talking trash to me?
43:23
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
43:24
SPEAKER_00: And and Mike Evans is he's had a solid career, especially with Tampa Bay now.
43:29
SPEAKER_00: Correct.
43:29
SPEAKER_00: With Seth Rand, it's like the rich got richer.
43:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's a big dude too.
43:34
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, yeah.
43:35
SPEAKER_00: Diggs mucked him in the face, so I laughed a little bit, man.
43:38
SPEAKER_00: And but it's like you you really don't want to smoke with Mike Evans like that.
43:43
SPEAKER_00: No, he's a big dude.
43:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and he's got that, he's got that uh that that beard too that kind of makes him look, you know, kind of different.
43:52
SPEAKER_00: You know, he's got that puffy beard.
43:55
SPEAKER_00: He almost look uh Arab when you look at him, you know.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: From face on, he looks arid with that beard and light skin complexion and stuff.
44:04
SPEAKER_00: So he he looks different.
44:06
SPEAKER_00: So I don't think he's a guy you would really want to be messing with, you know, in the in the dark alley.
44:11
SPEAKER_00: Him and uh uh my boy uh DK Metcalf.
44:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, leave him alone, man.
44:20
SPEAKER_00: But uh man, before I close out, I want to talk about a little bit of some high school football.
44:26
SPEAKER_01: Okay, what we got up, what we got going on?
44:29
SPEAKER_00: Man, we got some of the best of the best games going on this week.
44:33
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we got Mont Carmel and Loyola.
44:38
SPEAKER_00: That's gonna be a slobber knocker, right?
44:42
SPEAKER_00: So that game is gonna be at 6:30 at Loyola on Friday night.
44:46
SPEAKER_00: And these games here, what's crazy is that conference there produces the best games because some of the top teams in the entire state play all in the same conference.
44:58
SPEAKER_00: So you got Maris playing Brother Rice at Brother Rice on Friday night at 7 o'clock, and then you got Mark Carmel playing Loyola.
45:07
SPEAKER_00: Those are the four teams in the conference: Rice, Maris, Loyola, and Mark Carmel.
45:11
SPEAKER_00: Those four teams are like the top teams in the entire state.
45:14
SPEAKER_00: Uh, and they all play each other in the conference.
45:17
SPEAKER_00: So you got Mark Carmel, Loyola, and you got Maris and Rice.
45:22
SPEAKER_00: And what, man, this came up again on Facebook because everybody's trying to figure out why CPS football is kind of down, right?
45:32
SPEAKER_00: You got a couple of teams, but not how it was traditionally in the past.
45:36
SPEAKER_00: You might have 16 to 20 decent teams, and now you only got about four to five decent teams, right?
45:46
SPEAKER_00: And one of the reasons is like we talk about brother Rice.
45:50
SPEAKER_00: Brother Rice is truly now Brother Rice.
45:53
SPEAKER_00: There's black kids everywhere on that team, right?
45:55
SPEAKER_00: So it's really brother rice now.
45:58
SPEAKER_00: And some of those kids would potentially be going to uh public league schools to play football, but they're not now.
46:04
SPEAKER_00: They're all going to you look at Mont Carmel.
46:06
SPEAKER_00: Mont Carmel got uh black kids on it, Maris got a bunch of black kids on it, you know.
46:12
SPEAKER_00: So those kids now that would traditionally be going to your Simeons and your Morgan Parks, and oh, back in the day, your Robesons and Julians and things of that nature, they're now going to the Catholic League.
46:24
SPEAKER_00: I guess they're getting great uh financial packages, and and you know, it's a couple of kids, even on these freshman teams that are out there playing.
46:32
SPEAKER_00: Uh, you see, you see Dogson, uh Tommy uh from Jackson State.
46:37
SPEAKER_00: His son plays center on Mark Carmel's, he's the center for Mark Carmel's sophomore team.
46:42
SPEAKER_00: Then, you know, another kid that plays on the sophomore team.
46:45
SPEAKER_00: Then you got uh Cassius Chamberson, he played running back at CVS.
46:50
SPEAKER_00: His son is the freshman quarterback at Merris.
46:53
SPEAKER_00: So now these kids are now starting to go to these Catholic League teams.
46:57
SPEAKER_00: These Catholic League teams are ranked, and you might have one public league team ranked.
47:02
SPEAKER_00: You might not have none.
47:04
SPEAKER_00: Uh Morgan Park is there and King.
47:09
SPEAKER_00: Morgan Park and King play last week.
47:11
SPEAKER_00: I think it was an eight-point ball game.
47:13
SPEAKER_00: King is on the uprise.
47:14
SPEAKER_00: Morgan Park has been able to sustain what they've had the past couple years.
47:18
SPEAKER_00: Kimwood is another good team, and brings me to the another game of the week: Morgan Park and Kenwood.
47:25
SPEAKER_00: So those are the two top teams in the city playing this weekend.
47:29
SPEAKER_00: They play at 1 o'clock at Lane, and they're playing for uh so Morgan Park won one Red Conference, Kimwood won the other, and so they're playing for who's gonna be number one, number two seed in the public league playoffs.
47:46
SPEAKER_00: So this game means a lot, and it is a brag and right game.
47:51
SPEAKER_00: It it was the city championship game last year.
47:54
SPEAKER_00: It's got a lot of bells and whistles on the game, but the winner of the game is the number one seed in the playoffs, the loser of the game is the number two team in the playoffs, and they can face each other again in the next couple weeks for the city championship.
48:11
SPEAKER_00: So this thing is when I used to coach, yeah, yeah.
48:17
SPEAKER_01: When I used to coach youth football, um it's been some years now, but it but it was not uncommon to look up, you know, and I was coaching a suburban team, and it was not uncommon to see somebody out there with a Mount Carmel jacket on that was a coach watching some of the games.
48:40
SPEAKER_01: It was not uncommon to see them somebody from Brother Rice, Mary's Catholic, and some of those right schools, you know, coaches out there.
48:53
SPEAKER_01: Even the suburban predominantly black schools what was crazy to me quick was you would never hardly see any of those coaches potentially looking at the kids that are even in their district.
49:09
SPEAKER_01: Right.
49:09
SPEAKER_01: They would even come into the games, right?
49:11
SPEAKER_01: They they just hoping to, you know what I'm saying?
49:13
SPEAKER_01: The kid that probably gonna be in your school, you're not even there watching them to even get an idea of like who may be coming to your school, and maybe you can encourage and get to them before they get recruited out to a private school or something, right?
49:28
SPEAKER_01: And you know, like talk to the parents or even have a relationship with the coach, you know.
49:34
SPEAKER_01: I'm let me wrap this up.
49:35
SPEAKER_01: But one for example, I I used to here's a program I didn't coach here, but had a good program.
49:40
SPEAKER_01: The South Holland Jets had a good program.
49:44
SPEAKER_01: They practice on this right next to throwing high school, pretty much like the field right by them.
49:55
SPEAKER_01: Bro, they ignored South Holland Jets.
49:59
SPEAKER_01: You had a team that was winning Super Bowls and uh youth football, and you had a team that was right next to them who sometimes some years only won one or two games, and they didn't even try to even like these kids played at South Holland Jets because the majority of them lived in South Holland, right?
50:18
SPEAKER_01: Some might have been in Markham and some of that that might have come over there, and they was at this one of their best kids.
50:23
SPEAKER_01: I remember got recruited from Brother Rice and played for them for four years because you know the kid I used to coach him, and then he went, he ended up moving district and he wanted to go to South Holland.
50:32
SPEAKER_01: So I kind of kept up with his his thing, you know, his career, and he ended up playing real good for Brother Rice for four years.
50:39
SPEAKER_01: Um, I think he played college ball for about a year or two, and you know, just kind of ended up being a student.
50:44
SPEAKER_01: But that the great point you made though.
50:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and and that's the problem too, because you know, the only team that ever went state and in the public league has been Phillips, and their team was built from the AUSL players and when CPS had the elementary football program.
51:02
SPEAKER_00: So that was, you know, a lot of those kids came from the Wildcats, and the Wildcats was one of the top elementary programs.
51:09
SPEAKER_00: They practiced right at Dunbar, and some of the similar things was happening, and they decided to all take those kids to one school and get some of those AUSL players to mix with those kids, and Phillips got two state championships from that.
51:25
SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, a lot of times coaches be, oh man, I ain't getting no kids.
51:29
SPEAKER_00: You got to go find them.
51:30
SPEAKER_00: They're not gonna just beat your door down.
51:33
SPEAKER_00: You know, a lot of times, and when I was a college recruiter, kids buy the person that's recruiting them.
51:41
SPEAKER_00: They don't know much about the program, they don't know much about the school, it's the person that's recruiting them to play for their program or recruiting them to go to that school.
51:50
SPEAKER_00: They buy you, they don't buy the school because they want to play for you.
51:55
SPEAKER_00: And now you got all these kids that's jumping ship, going to all these.
51:58
SPEAKER_00: I've never had a kid that played for me transfer and go to another school.
52:04
SPEAKER_00: They've always stayed and played for me.
52:05
SPEAKER_00: And I coach track, I coach football, I coach baseball.
52:10
SPEAKER_00: None of my kids were like, Coach, I'm gonna go take my talents to this other school.
52:14
SPEAKER_00: That just didn't happen.
52:16
SPEAKER_00: And so it depends on what you're doing in your program.
52:19
SPEAKER_00: Uh brings me up to I just looked and kind of disappointed, man.
52:25
SPEAKER_00: Uh I was gonna bring up some girls flag football this week, man.
52:29
SPEAKER_00: Show them some love.
52:31
SPEAKER_00: Uh man, the Kenwood Broncos just lost to St.
52:34
SPEAKER_00: Ignatius to go down state.
52:37
SPEAKER_00: That was the only public league team that was left.
52:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh, and so the only team in our area that's going down is Maris.
52:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, because I read flag football too uh during the year.
52:50
SPEAKER_00: And that is a fun sport.
52:52
SPEAKER_00: That's a sport that's taken over.
52:53
SPEAKER_00: That's a sport that's highly supported by the Bears.
52:57
SPEAKER_00: Uh, funding and all of that.
52:58
SPEAKER_00: They give funding to the teams and they invite the girls up, play in the summer league, and everything.
53:04
SPEAKER_00: It is a program that has taken off, and it is going to be here to stay.
53:09
SPEAKER_00: The state playoffs actually start Friday in Willowbrook.
53:14
SPEAKER_00: Uh, so they start Friday in Willowbrook, and the girls will go down and battle it out to see who will be the state champs.
53:21
SPEAKER_00: And I thought Kimwood had a great chance because that team there is loaded.
53:27
SPEAKER_00: They are loaded, and I thought they were gonna have a chance.
53:30
SPEAKER_00: Now, this Bradley Bourbon A team that's on here, um they got a girl on their team.
53:36
SPEAKER_00: I don't even know that girl's name, but she unbelievable.
53:38
SPEAKER_00: I never seen in flag football where you can say hut and just hand the ball to somebody and they juke a whole team for 80 yards.
53:46
SPEAKER_00: I ain't never seen that before.
53:47
SPEAKER_00: So I saw this one girl that played at Bradley Bourbonet, and she didn't do it just once.
53:52
SPEAKER_00: She did it on a couple occasions, and you could hear her feet hitting the ground.
53:56
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, God dog, like what is I don't even know her name.
54:01
SPEAKER_00: I might have to look her up because she gets mad props for me.
54:05
SPEAKER_00: She is outstanding.
54:06
SPEAKER_00: Um, a couple of other teams I seen this year that were good.
54:09
SPEAKER_00: Samberg, uh stag, um HF, who lost uh yesterday to go down state.
54:18
SPEAKER_00: Um you know, we had a couple of teams, uh, like I said, Bradley Berene.
54:23
SPEAKER_00: And those are the girls flag football team.
54:28
SPEAKER_00: So the the championship is this weekend.
54:30
SPEAKER_00: You want to check it out, or you can follow it on IHSA.org to see who's gonna be the winner.
54:37
SPEAKER_00: Now, I don't know if we got any uh any participation in the Rudy pool.
54:42
SPEAKER_00: Um, I didn't see many comments tonight.
54:45
SPEAKER_00: Uh a lot of people watch the show after.
54:48
SPEAKER_00: A lot of people don't watch the show when it's live, they watch it after.
54:51
SPEAKER_00: But I don't know.
54:54
SPEAKER_00: I don't know who I should give it to.
54:56
SPEAKER_00: I really don't know.
54:57
SPEAKER_00: Did we get any votes at all on there?
55:00
SPEAKER_01: You know what?
55:01
SPEAKER_01: This is first time I'm using this.
55:03
SPEAKER_01: Let me get back on the screen.
55:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't know if they show it here or do they show it online.
55:09
SPEAKER_01: So I'm not sure.
55:11
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna have to figure out how to use this function, but I tell them for those who are gonna be listening, uh they can see you know when they hear it tomorrow or later on tonight on Spotify, Apple Music, Buzzpot, IHeart Radio.
55:29
SPEAKER_01: I know y'all won't be able to see the visuals that we showing, but some of the nominees were for the Rudy Poop Candy ass award was Tyson Bajance, Chicago Bears, the Chicago White Sox, who else you had quick, Dallas Cowboys, and we had Johnson Johnson and Johnson and Johnson, yeah.
55:53
SPEAKER_00: That's then Johnson Roquan Johnson and Jalen Johnson.
55:57
SPEAKER_00: You know what?
55:58
SPEAKER_00: Let's do something untraditional here tonight.
56:00
SPEAKER_00: Okay, you know, let's do something untraditional because we we couldn't figure out how to do the survey.
56:04
SPEAKER_00: Let's give it to all of them, you know, all of them get a rudie poop candy ass award for me this week.
56:10
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it this was this was an abysmal week.
56:14
SPEAKER_00: You know, you you had the Chicago White Sox choked, you had the Dallas Cowboys choked.
56:18
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I wish I could have put Dan Quinn on there for choking as well.
56:22
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it was a bunch of Montez sweat, not get suspended for two games.
56:26
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he might be the Rudy Pooh for next week, depending on what the Bears do.
56:30
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we we got a lot of them.
56:31
SPEAKER_00: We got the Johnson, Johnson, and Johnson.
56:33
SPEAKER_00: That that's that that's that PDD uh baby or Johnson and Johnson right there.
56:38
SPEAKER_00: That's a slippery slope right there.
56:40
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna give it to everybody.
56:42
SPEAKER_00: Everybody that we name gets the Rudy Pooh candy ass award for the week.
56:47
SPEAKER_00: That means you are the person that caused your team to be unsuccessful, or you made a bonehead play that we all looking at and saying, What in the heck?
56:57
SPEAKER_00: We give it to everybody, everybody gets it.
57:00
SPEAKER_00: Chicago White Sox, 21 strikeouts in the game with only 27 outs.
57:04
SPEAKER_00: You gotta get it.
57:05
SPEAKER_00: Johnson, Johnson and Johnson, Ben Johnson.
57:08
SPEAKER_00: That was a terrible game plan.
57:09
SPEAKER_00: Roshan Johnson, you can't be a uh NFL running back, you suck.
57:13
SPEAKER_00: Jalen Johnson, I don't even have to put words to that.
57:15
SPEAKER_00: That dude, oh my god, and Tyson, the double agent Bajent, one of the worst football.
57:21
SPEAKER_00: I that might be the lowest scoring passing percentage in NFL history.
57:28
SPEAKER_00: That might be it might be close.
57:29
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
57:30
SPEAKER_00: The only thing that kept him alive is throwing those check down plays.
57:34
SPEAKER_00: That's it.
57:35
SPEAKER_00: Everybody gets everybody gets the award, right?
57:39
SPEAKER_01: Everybody gets you know what if y'all like to send y'all acceptance speeches, you know, we'll welcome it, we'll play next week.
57:47
SPEAKER_01: You know, you earn that, be proud of your award.
57:50
SPEAKER_01: Hey, you know who I want to give uh uh the the Matt Fluz award to Quinn.
57:57
SPEAKER_01: Oh man, man, how could somebody actually do the same thing that Fluz did on Thanksgiving a few years ago that got him fired?
58:08
SPEAKER_01: Where he did where he allows the time to run out at a game and not bring his field goal kicker out somewhere between him and his quarterback, lack of communication.
58:18
SPEAKER_01: Now, one thing I could just say on that Thanksgiving game with Floose a few years ago, Caleb was a rookie, so that was a rookie that may not know the instructions to the game, but you got Dan Quinn, a coach who's been in the league for a while as a head coach, and you have a uh third-year quarterback, and you hike a ball, you non-salinely go in the huddle, you run a ball, then you down the ball, you go back to the line, and you just let another six to eight seconds run off the clock and lose the game without even spiking it.
58:48
SPEAKER_01: Crazy, crazy stuff, man.
58:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, I mean, like I said, this week anybody can get it.
58:56
SPEAKER_00: This was the week.
58:57
SPEAKER_00: I think this this is the week where everybody was they must have heard of the Rudy Pool Award, and I think people were vying to get it this week.
59:04
SPEAKER_00: They like, no, you can't have it.
59:05
SPEAKER_00: I want the Rudy Pool Award, I gotta get the Rudy Pool Award.
59:09
SPEAKER_00: So, hey, we just give it to everybody, everybody's gotta get it this week, and you know, hey, that's just what it is.
59:16
SPEAKER_00: So, one more thing before I leave.
59:20
SPEAKER_00: This week is Mississippi Valley State University's homecoming.
59:26
SPEAKER_00: This is the homecoming weekend for Mississippi Valley State.
59:30
SPEAKER_00: I hope you guys enjoy.
59:32
SPEAKER_00: Don't tell the school.
59:34
SPEAKER_00: The parking permits are outrageous.
59:37
SPEAKER_00: Save some money, ride with a friend because they say the parking down there is cost more than the football team.
59:44
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
59:46
SPEAKER_00: Hey, everybody's on the social media, like, how much is the parking pass?
59:50
SPEAKER_00: One week they charge$50 to park.
59:52
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, man, this is not Purdue.
59:54
SPEAKER_00: What are we doing here?
59:56
SPEAKER_00: This ain't Purdue.
59:57
SPEAKER_00: We used to just ride on campus.
59:58
SPEAKER_00: I don't understand what's going on.
1:00:01
SPEAKER_00: But hey, appreciate everybody coming through, watching the show.
1:00:07
SPEAKER_00: Tune in next week, same bad time, same bad channel, and until then, peace.