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- 0:14Speaker 1: WFNC Mac and Bone with you. I want the record
- 0:18Speaker 1: to show Bone. I did not authorize this code red
- 0:21Speaker 1: from Fitty. I did not authorize. That's all he went
- 0:24Speaker 1: playing the song that our next cast hates so much. Now,
- 0:28Speaker 1: the first time I did authorized Bone. The first time
- 0:31Speaker 1: I did find it amusing. The second time Bone, I
- 0:34Speaker 1: think we are all. I think I think our well
- 0:36Speaker 1: being is on the time half Carolina Mike sing your
- 0:39Speaker 1: return of the Mac. Next Carolina, Mike. That's another favorite
- 0:43Speaker 1: for for our next guess. By the way, Bijon Robinson
- 0:47Speaker 1: three year contract extension in Atlanta worked up the seventy
- 0:50Speaker 1: five million dollars highest paid running back in NFL history.
- 0:55Speaker 1: That is something we're gonna have to talk about. So
- 0:57Speaker 1: they're paying those until untill you be your Gibbs comes
- 0:59Speaker 1: up soon. They're paying those skill guys. London got money,
- 1:03Speaker 1: Bijon's getting money. Go ahead, use all that money on
- 1:06Speaker 1: what you have, right, They've always had skill guys. So
- 1:10Speaker 1: I'm all right, I'm all right here. Let's bring in
- 1:12Speaker 1: our next guest. Guest, vashed I heard if she's still
- 1:14Speaker 1: on the line after Fitty trolled her by playing that
- 1:17Speaker 1: song for her. Vashti heard Carolina Blitz Carolina Blitz dot
- 1:21Speaker 1: com some of the best Dangs Panthers coverage you are
- 1:25Speaker 1: going to find. And Vashti is with us on the
- 1:28Speaker 1: Mac and Bone Show. Vashti, that was all Fitty. I hope,
- 1:31Speaker 1: I hope you slug him next time you see him.
- 1:33Speaker 2: You know what. Fitty was so cool when he called me.
- 1:36Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, it's a vast time only to
- 1:38Speaker 2: just stab me in the back.
- 1:42Speaker 1: I want you to know we only wanted you stabbed once.
- 1:44Speaker 1: For some reason, Fitty has stabbed twice now with that song.
- 1:49Speaker 1: Oh Man, Vashti, we need to bring you in on
- 1:52Speaker 1: a conversation we were having before we get to the Panthers,
- 1:56Speaker 1: and there is so much stuff going on. Heck, there're
- 1:58Speaker 1: two days away from playing a game. I was talking
- 2:01Speaker 1: about how I don't it drives me crazy, how big
- 2:04Speaker 1: these superhero movies are. I stop liking superheroes or caring
- 2:09Speaker 1: about them when I grew up. I'm not a little
- 2:12Speaker 1: that not to se I'm not a little kid anymore,
- 2:17Speaker 1: and a superhero nation is furious with me. How do
- 2:20Speaker 1: you feel about about dudes that are into superhero movies?
- 2:25Speaker 3: How do you feel about that?
- 2:26Speaker 2: You know, I feel like we all have to be
- 2:29Speaker 2: able to have a way to tap into nostalgia in
- 2:32Speaker 2: our childlike memories and joys of life. And if they
- 2:37Speaker 2: do that through a Superman movie, then so big. You know,
- 2:40Speaker 2: as long as you know when to grow up, you know,
- 2:44Speaker 2: as long as you know when to act like a man,
- 2:46Speaker 2: and that's fine.
- 2:47Speaker 3: I'm all right.
- 2:49Speaker 2: I think it's cute.
- 2:50Speaker 4: It's cute.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Oh man, all right. I lost on that one bone
- 2:55Speaker 1: and I tried to appeal to vash died judge. The
- 2:57Speaker 1: judge shot my.
- 2:58Speaker 5: Appeal down out there, Vashti XL. It feels like what
- 3:03Speaker 5: we're reading tweets or we're watching practice that he is
- 3:06Speaker 5: making strides here in year three. Where where have you
- 3:10Speaker 5: seen the most improvement at camp so far? With Leeget I.
- 3:14Speaker 2: Mean, he's catching the ball, he's keeping his feed and bounds.
- 3:19Speaker 2: He is he was never a guy who you didn't
- 3:22Speaker 2: seem like, who didn't feel like he was into practice.
- 3:25Speaker 2: He's always been into practice.
- 3:26Speaker 4: He loves football.
- 3:28Speaker 2: But he's making plays and he's a guy who is.
- 3:32Speaker 2: It looks like his even his timing with Bryce seems
- 3:37Speaker 2: to be better. And you know, I know that they
- 3:39Speaker 2: went out a couple of times this offseason and got
- 3:42Speaker 2: some work in so your hope that pays dividends, wants
- 3:45Speaker 2: the actual games come. But if I had to go
- 3:49Speaker 2: based on what I've seen on practice from practice, this
- 3:52Speaker 2: is gonna be a big year for Xavier Leged and
- 3:54Speaker 2: he's going to prove a few of those haters wrong.
- 3:57Speaker 3: I hope. So.
- 3:58Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I've been I'm very skeptical, right and
- 4:02Speaker 1: I have been so, but my god, I want him
- 4:03Speaker 1: to prove me wrong, Vash, I really do, and I
- 4:06Speaker 1: don't know how. Like that clip that was floating around
- 4:09Speaker 1: the internet, we played it yesterday of his SI interview
- 4:12Speaker 1: where he talked about renovating his childhood home because he
- 4:16Speaker 1: wants to have the feeling of when he was a
- 4:18Speaker 1: little boy and both his parents were alive with him
- 4:20Speaker 1: in that home. He lost both of them when he
- 4:22Speaker 1: was young. Like, I don't know how you can watch
- 4:25Speaker 1: that and not root for this dude. He is one
- 4:27Speaker 1: hundred percent genuine.
- 4:30Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I think that that's what resonated with fans
- 4:33Speaker 2: so much when he first got here. You know, the accent,
- 4:36Speaker 2: the just country boy, down home lovability that he had,
- 4:43Speaker 2: and he was authentically himself. Unfortunately, it didn't translate on
- 4:48Speaker 2: the field. If it had, you know, he might have
- 4:51Speaker 2: been one of the most popular pickers. But it's not
- 4:54Speaker 2: too late. And in South Carolina, and he's told us
- 4:57Speaker 2: this before. He was a slow burn in South Carolina.
- 5:00Speaker 2: He didn't pop on the field initially. He had great
- 5:03Speaker 2: last season and he had all of the tools to
- 5:06Speaker 2: be a good wide receiver, which is why the Panthers
- 5:09Speaker 2: took him at the end of the first round. So
- 5:11Speaker 2: you know, he has every he has all the intangibles.
- 5:14Speaker 2: He just needs to put it together with Bryce.
- 5:18Speaker 5: That's why the man throw them the football you mentioned there.
- 5:20Speaker 5: Bryce Young feels like from what we see that Bryce
- 5:24Speaker 5: is having a hag of a camp So far, where
- 5:26Speaker 5: do you think Bryce has improved the most from where
- 5:29Speaker 5: we saw him a year ago.
- 5:32Speaker 2: He's not thinking as much and now the seven said
- 5:35Speaker 2: this yesterday. He's moving faster. He knows the offense, he
- 5:39Speaker 2: knows his receivers. He's not, you know, trying to learn
- 5:43Speaker 2: much of anything. He knows what it is, he knows
- 5:46Speaker 2: what he wants to do. And so now he's now
- 5:48Speaker 2: he's just he's like what they call a flow state.
- 5:51Speaker 2: He's in a flow state. And when it comes to
- 5:54Speaker 2: running the offense and being quarterback where he doesn't have
- 5:56Speaker 2: to think, okay, well this call means this, or all right,
- 5:59Speaker 2: my receiver is gonna here. He already knows that, and
- 6:02Speaker 2: now he can just go out and play and play
- 6:04Speaker 2: freely and that is playing faster and that is that
- 6:08Speaker 2: will benefit the offense this season.
- 6:10Speaker 1: Vashta, What did you think of Brent Tillis's comments yesterday
- 6:14Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna do a whole segment kind of
- 6:17Speaker 1: like you know, what we do, we try to read
- 6:18Speaker 1: in what's he really telling us? But I thought there
- 6:20Speaker 1: were some interesting things there. It did seem like he
- 6:23Speaker 1: might have slipped up and kind of said about his contract,
- 6:26Speaker 1: we'll see how the season goes type thing, you know,
- 6:28Speaker 1: meaning oh okay, maybe there's there's definitely no extension. And
- 6:32Speaker 1: then the stuff about I know fans got going on
- 6:34Speaker 1: the thing about we don't he's a sending, but we
- 6:36Speaker 1: don't know what his ceiling is yet. I know that
- 6:39Speaker 1: that fans kind of got worked up on that. What
- 6:41Speaker 1: did you think about some of the comments that he made.
- 6:45Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's fair and you got to
- 6:47Speaker 2: look at it from Brent Tillis's point of view, You know,
- 6:50Speaker 2: when you're looking at a quarterback and whether you pay
- 6:53Speaker 2: this guy forty fifty million dollars a year, however, whatever
- 6:58Speaker 2: the market is at the time where is looking to
- 7:01Speaker 2: have a contract extension, you have to firmly believe that
- 7:05Speaker 2: he is your guy. And Bryce has shown flashes. He
- 7:08Speaker 2: ended the season well, he is showing that he is
- 7:13Speaker 2: definitely an ascending player, but you still don't know what
- 7:17Speaker 2: the ceiling is. The ceiling can be where he is
- 7:19Speaker 2: right now, or the ceiling can be, you know, one
- 7:22Speaker 2: of the best quarterbacks in the league, and so he
- 7:25Speaker 2: just hasn't shown on a consistent basis school he will be,
- 7:28Speaker 2: And so I think that that was fair. But also
- 7:31Speaker 2: I think if Bryce comes out whooping these first let's
- 7:34Speaker 2: say six games, and he's looking like he picked up
- 7:37Speaker 2: right where he left off. He's looking like Atlanta Falcons
- 7:40Speaker 2: Bryce Young in these games, you got to inc him
- 7:44Speaker 2: sooner than later, because the longer you wait, the price
- 7:47Speaker 2: is only going to continue to go up. And so
- 7:50Speaker 2: you know, I think that the door is always open
- 7:52Speaker 2: with these contract talks. I don't know if he I
- 7:56Speaker 2: don't know if he plays a full year without an extension,
- 7:58Speaker 2: who knows. But if he start, if he really solidifies himself,
- 8:03Speaker 2: you know early on this season, you go ahead and
- 8:06Speaker 2: lock that down and you and you solidify him as
- 8:09Speaker 2: your man for the for the foreseeable feature rash Guy.
- 8:12Speaker 5: The first depth chart first depth chart came out yesterday
- 8:16Speaker 5: and one notable thing that we saw was Cam Jackson
- 8:20Speaker 5: running with the ones up front on defense. How surprised
- 8:24Speaker 5: are you that he's up there and how much of
- 8:27Speaker 5: a of a factor do you think Cam can be
- 8:30Speaker 5: here in the second year.
- 8:33Speaker 2: Camus had a good champ. Cam has had a good
- 8:35Speaker 2: camp and you know, yesterday it's crazy. Yesterday in that practice,
- 8:38Speaker 2: I was like, God, look, you're a big guy.
- 8:42Speaker 5: Not in real life.
- 8:44Speaker 2: It was Cam Jackson because they fold their numbers up
- 8:46Speaker 2: into their past and so I was Cam Jackson.
- 8:50Speaker 4: Is huge, And you know, I don't.
- 8:53Speaker 2: Know their guys expected Lee Hunter to just because of
- 8:57Speaker 2: where he was drafted and because of the upside potential
- 8:59Speaker 2: to just come in and run with the ones and
- 9:02Speaker 2: be the guy. But Cam Jackson has had a better
- 9:04Speaker 2: camp than Lee Hunter, and you want that. Cam Jackson
- 9:07Speaker 2: has a year under his belt of being in this
- 9:10Speaker 2: system and playing in the league, and so I wasn't
- 9:13Speaker 2: surprised at at Cam being where he was, especially with
- 9:17Speaker 2: Kirk being out with injury. Uh, you know he's Cam
- 9:21Speaker 2: is out a good camp and and Lee Hunter is
- 9:23Speaker 2: going to have to earn earn his earn his strikes.
- 9:26Speaker 2: But you know, there was no surprise for me there.
- 9:29Speaker 2: The surprise was Will Lee like CB three, I was like,
- 9:34Speaker 2: Will Lee has been making plays all over the field.
- 9:36Speaker 2: I was surprised to see him that far, that far
- 9:40Speaker 2: down on the depth chart. But Louis asked Annalys today,
- 9:44Speaker 2: I'm sure.
- 9:44Speaker 4: He's gonna say, oh, don't read too much into that,
- 9:46Speaker 4: so you know we'll see.
- 9:47Speaker 5: Yeaham Jackson, did god be last week when we were
- 9:50Speaker 5: out there, I said, wait, there's a guy bigger than
- 9:53Speaker 5: Derek Brown out there.
- 9:54Speaker 3: It's crazy and than Derek Brown. It's crazy. The side
- 9:59Speaker 3: by side and Alia Kaway is Campbell like element to him.
- 10:02Speaker 1: And when he put when he put Sam Heckt, I mean,
- 10:05Speaker 1: I love Sam heck Day. You're my favorite guy of
- 10:06Speaker 1: the draft honestly, But when he put him on skates
- 10:09Speaker 1: yesterday on that one on one clip, y'all sent out,
- 10:11Speaker 1: oh my god, it's gracious, this guy's moving him.
- 10:16Speaker 4: Oh, that was n him.
- 10:19Speaker 2: He treated him like a kid. It was like, bro
- 10:21Speaker 2: couldn't even get his footing. He just drove him.
- 10:23Speaker 1: That was great, That was impressive. So yeah, Cam Jackson,
- 10:26Speaker 1: I'm glad y'all are talking him up. What do you
- 10:28Speaker 1: think of Monroe Freeling so far? We found out yesterday
- 10:31Speaker 1: he's not going to start Thursday. No, the starters are
- 10:34Speaker 1: going to start on are going to play on Thursday,
- 10:36Speaker 1: which is probably good. But you sent out some of
- 10:38Speaker 1: those one on ones again yesterday and it was Freeling
- 10:41Speaker 1: against Phillips. It seems like he's holding his own. Like,
- 10:44Speaker 1: what do you think of what you're seeing from Freeling?
- 10:47Speaker 4: That's exactly how I would describe it. Freeling is a
- 10:51Speaker 4: rookie who, you.
- 10:52Speaker 2: Know, expected to be a guy that would play on
- 10:55Speaker 2: the left side, but because of the injury to Taylor Mowten,
- 10:58Speaker 2: he's thrust into this star role on the right hand side,
- 11:01Speaker 2: and he is holding his own against one of the
- 11:05Speaker 2: one At least he's being paid as one of the
- 11:07Speaker 2: best pass rushes in the league.
- 11:09Speaker 4: He hasn't turned it into.
- 11:10Speaker 2: The sack production yet, but he's holding his own against Phillips,
- 11:14Speaker 2: and and that's what you that's all you can hope for,
- 11:17Speaker 2: you know, and iron sharpens iron. You're glad that he's
- 11:20Speaker 2: going up against the guy like Phillips. Phillips gets him
- 11:25Speaker 2: every now and then, but you know, shoot, no offense.
- 11:27Speaker 4: It's gonna happen.
- 11:28Speaker 2: But for him to be able to hold his own
- 11:31Speaker 2: the way that he has, and he seems to be
- 11:34Speaker 2: getting better with each practice, that's all you can ask
- 11:38Speaker 2: for from a rookie who's kind of being thrust into this,
- 11:41Speaker 2: into this pivotal role along the line.
- 11:44Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's great news. All right.
- 11:46Speaker 1: So I got to ask you, Vashti, of you were
- 11:48Speaker 1: there at practice yesterday. I need to know about this
- 11:52Speaker 1: hit that Trayvon Mehrick put on to Leape Franks and
- 11:56Speaker 1: credit to Felipe two catches, I guess on that drive
- 11:59Speaker 1: and including holding on to the ball when he got
- 12:02Speaker 1: walloped so bad in camp practice that a flag got thrown,
- 12:06Speaker 1: Like is was that like did Mary go too far
- 12:10Speaker 1: or did you kind of like seeing that? And how
- 12:12Speaker 1: did Felipe Franks resist starting another rumble? I got to
- 12:15Speaker 1: give him credit for that.
- 12:17Speaker 2: Yeah, there are several elements to this. Marrick just he's
- 12:21Speaker 2: just that guy, you know, he's going to pop you,
- 12:25Speaker 2: and that's how he plays. I remember last year in
- 12:28Speaker 2: Houston when they had their joint practice, he popped the
- 12:32Speaker 2: guy and it started a big fight in Houston because
- 12:35Speaker 2: but you know, what you don't want to do is
- 12:38Speaker 2: mute somebody's instincts. Right, this is a guy, this is
- 12:42Speaker 2: what he does. Now if you tell him the hold back,
- 12:45Speaker 2: that probably changes the whole dynamic of how he plays.
- 12:49Speaker 2: You don't want to pop your own teammate in that manner.
- 12:53Speaker 2: But Felipe Franks, you know, I guess he knows. Felipe
- 12:57Speaker 2: Franks is not necessarily a guy was going to make
- 13:00Speaker 2: this fifty three man roster. And Mary is I probably
- 13:04Speaker 2: would have gout in his face if he did that
- 13:06Speaker 2: to me, at least to you know, set the tone
- 13:09Speaker 2: to let you know, you know, bro, you need to relax.
- 13:12Speaker 2: But he didn't. He held on to the ball, and
- 13:14Speaker 2: I guess that was his statement in that moment. But
- 13:17Speaker 2: Mary is just a guy, you know, And some of
- 13:20Speaker 2: the guys joked around in the locker room like he
- 13:23Speaker 2: got a screw loose and that, and you need you
- 13:29Speaker 2: need guys in your locker rooms who don't who have
- 13:32Speaker 2: a few screws loose because they add a different element
- 13:36Speaker 2: to to that and you you specifically want them on
- 13:39Speaker 2: your on defense and so it was a credit to
- 13:43Speaker 2: both of them. I like the way Mary plays, I
- 13:46Speaker 2: like how aggressive he plays. And Felipe, you know, he
- 13:49Speaker 2: took that hit, he caught the ball.
- 13:51Speaker 4: And practice resumed as normal.
- 13:53Speaker 2: Now, if that might have been another guy, maybe they
- 13:56Speaker 2: go at Mary, but Felipe decided not to.
- 14:00Speaker 5: We were talking about getting you on the show yesterday
- 14:02Speaker 5: and Fitty said that you wanted to come on recently
- 14:05Speaker 5: because you made a reference to Fiddy about something and
- 14:08Speaker 5: he didn't get it, and you you were not happy
- 14:11Speaker 5: with him. Do you remember what that was about?
- 14:14Speaker 2: It was? I don't remember specifically, but it was. It
- 14:19Speaker 2: was it was a reference to I think either it
- 14:21Speaker 2: was a movie or a song that Fiddy should have
- 14:24Speaker 2: absolutely known about.
- 14:26Speaker 3: Oh man, this is.
- 14:27Speaker 2: Basic, this is basic millennial knowledge here. And I was
- 14:31Speaker 2: so Fitty. It was that acc media day and I
- 14:35Speaker 2: said I made the reference and I wish I knew
- 14:37Speaker 2: specifically what it was, and Fitty just looked at me
- 14:40Speaker 2: and I'm.
- 14:40Speaker 4: Like, you're kidding, right, He had.
- 14:44Speaker 2: No idea what I was talking about.
- 14:46Speaker 4: And I'm like I mean, I was so disappointed with Fiddy.
- 14:50Speaker 6: We welcome to our world. We called that a weekday,
- 14:54Speaker 6: it was a days ending. Why by any chest, because
- 14:56Speaker 6: that happens to us as well. Fitty let vash die down.
- 15:00Speaker 1: Uh, we've got a text her on the text line
- 15:02Speaker 1: that says, if Merrick were to do that the Vasht,
- 15:05Speaker 1: I'd be in his face right now defending her honor.
- 15:08Speaker 3: So there you go. You got a gentleman out there, BASTI.
- 15:11Speaker 1: All right, gentlemen, I do think he's lying, because I'm
- 15:14Speaker 1: not thinking any any of these guys trying to step
- 15:16Speaker 1: the traypeon Merrick. But anyway, it sounded good. It definitely
- 15:19Speaker 1: sounded good. Felipe got Felipe got a couple of screws
- 15:22Speaker 1: loose too, Vashti in a good way.
- 15:23Speaker 3: You know, when it comes to special teams, you know,
- 15:25Speaker 3: I agree.
- 15:26Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, But you know when you when you pop
- 15:31Speaker 4: your own teammate, you might have another screw loose when
- 15:33Speaker 4: you do that.
- 15:35Speaker 2: That's just that's a different that's just a different level
- 15:38Speaker 2: of aggression. It is, yeah, I mean, marriage just he's
- 15:43Speaker 2: gonna make the play whether you whether you teammate or not.
- 15:47Speaker 4: It's offensive defense for him.
- 15:49Speaker 1: He is the exact type of dog that Dan Morgan
- 15:51Speaker 1: was talking about, right, Like, you need guys like that, Vashti,
- 15:55Speaker 1: great stuff, everybody, Carolina Blitz dot com at Carolina Blitz
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- 16:02Speaker 1: wanna pump up that? That what I'm not mentioning for you.
- 16:06Speaker 2: No, I mean, just follow us on Instagram and Twitter
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- 16:13Speaker 2: our coverage. I appreciate all of the support, and yeah,
- 16:17Speaker 2: thank you.
- 16:17Speaker 3: All right, awesome job, great talking to you. There you go,
- 16:20Speaker 3: vas I heard all right,