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The CFL Outsiders S03/E02 "Our Man in Budapest" · The CFL Outsiders

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  Okay, here we go.
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  Hey kids, welcome back to another episode of the CFL Outsiders.
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  I remain as always your one hundred percent unbiased, completely impartial, and so happy to have football back host Old Man Shouting at Clouds.
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  And of course I can't do this on my own, so as usual we have our panel panel of talk old man.
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  We have our panel of expert fans here.
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  GT.
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  How you doing everyone?
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  It's uh four o'clock in the morning here at four AM to be exact here in Budapest.
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  And I am uh recently awake but still at it.
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  I started drinking wine at ten o'clock this morning and now it's four o'clock the next morning and we're now drinking beer.
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  So it is uh it is what it is.
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  But yeah, welcome welcome to be back.
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  I'm sort of the wonders of technology.
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  Here I am.
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  I've made it all the way around the world.
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  So
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  we yeah, w you you've surprised us you didn't let e any of us know about that.
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  So wow, congratulations, enjoy.
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  and so so if I nod off or look even you know, even more droopy than normal, you'll know why.
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  just
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  Okay.
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  Yeah, if you just slowly fade forward out of the picture, we'll be fine.
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  But anyway, we of course we're not good enough with just GT, we also have back MJ.
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  hi everyone.
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  I want you to know that I was so upset about the team picker for the our podcast that I went and redid it on my own and I got the Ti Cats, so order has been restored.
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  Ha ha ha uh
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  Well speaking of that, we we start with a Mia Culpa from me.
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  Cause as we've said in the past, if we make a a major mistake we should point it out, and at the end of last week's show I was completely kerfa kerfuffled and kept getting the
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  Toronto coach's name wrong and ended up calling him Ken Miller rather than Mike Miller.
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  So sorry, Mike Miller.
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  If you turn out to be half the coach Ken Miller was, then that's actually a compliment.
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  So
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  We we'll see from there.
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  But I mean that's that's just an egregious error on me, especially now that we are basically an Argos fan cast.
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  Now that we're supporting the Argos, I I can't be doing that stuff.
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  Anyway, that's that was my mistake from last week.
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  I didn't spot anything from either of you, and you didn't make any, did you?
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  No, I didn't think so.
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  Okay.
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  Nothing glaring that I got with the editing.
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  So uh so we'll move ahead with it.
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  I'm this is gonna be interesting.
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  I'll probably try and do the the editing after tonight because I'm a bachelor but for the next five days, I think.
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  The goddess has gone off to visit a friend on the island and so I'm on my own until Sunday evening.
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  Be no problem getting through the football games and stuff.
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  And before she left she gave me this nice new sol full color Saskatchewan indigenous logo tee, which I'm not so big on the the two tone one, but the the color one I love.
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  So to celebrate the start of the season that's what she's she's given me.
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  I'll have to wear this to the the
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  at least one the Lions games here in Kelowna and see how people react.
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  All right, the uh moving down the the the rundown then.
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  Uh we were gonna jump right away to MJ, you caught last week and it was just a little bit too late for us to get in the schedule that Arlan Bruce has come to a settlement with the
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  B C Lions.
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  Yes, so this was quite the saga.
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  Um if you don't know who Arlan Bruce the Third is, let me just quickly remind you, he is a receiver, was a receiver.
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  He played from 2001 to 2013.
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  He's played with the Bombers, the Argos, the Ticats the Lions, and the Alawettes.
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  He is the one, as you remember, in 2008 put on the Spider-Man mask in his goal celebration against the Ty Cats.
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  Then the next year he was the one that took off his helmet, jersey, and shoulder pads in the end zone and laid down on the ground as a tribute to Michael Jackson.
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  He was traded in 2009 to the Tycats for the rights to Corey Mace because he got into a public fight with one of the coaches.
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  and on and on and on.
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  But what he's now best known for, and I think this is gonna be interesting to see how this develops with the league.
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  Um
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  You can fact check this.
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  Can Lee is an a site available to anyone.
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  You can go up there and look at cases that ha that have been heard before any of the courts that have come to a decision.
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  So I just hopped down to Can Lee today to do a little the the Arlan Bruce saga.
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  So he is suing about concussions and effects of concussions in CTE.
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  He's suing the league.
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  He tried to sue the league and the and all the teams.
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  so in twenty sixteen it was in the BC Supreme Court and he he was in claiming that in twenty twelve he was knocked unconscious and suffered a concussion.
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  And then subsequent to that, in the November game, he also had concussion hits.
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  And in twenty thirteen he displayed ongoing effects of concussion and the Montreal Alouette staff cleared him to playing games.
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  The position of the league in this court case was that he was an employee and therefore he needs to go to employment arbitration and you can't sue in court.
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  Because he was if you can sue in court, you can get a lot more money than if you have to go to a binding arbitration for employment law.
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  So the court decided that they he is entitled to arbitration and the like the CFL just tried to dismiss everything.
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  They're like, No arbitration, no court cases, like no.
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  Yeah, hmm.
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  look at here.
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  but he was entitled to arbitration based on the twenty fourteen collective bargaining agreement.
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  So in twenty seventeen they tried to appeal this to say that the can I please sue them?
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  And the sub the Court of Appeals said no.
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  And then they tried to appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada, and the Supreme Court of Canada declined to hear the case.
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  So it goes to arbitration.
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  And in twenty twelve, twenty twenty-two.
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  The t CFL tries to have arbitration dismissed again.
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  And they said, no, you have to arbitrate this.
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  So in 2025, they are going to arbitration.
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  So the claims are as follows.
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  The violations for
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  These aren't the vibe, like you can read through.
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  Actually, you know, and his story is quite sad, and it goes into quite a lot of detail.
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  Like he was admitted to a psychiatric hospital and all these things that happened after, and it's actually very sad.
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  You can read all of it on these court decisions.
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  Look it up yourself.
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  But they were the three violations they were worried about were one, the Lions cleared our Len Bruce to play at the beginning of the 2012 season without physician medical clearance.
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  Two, post concussion, he played in a game, BC let him play in a game without medical clearance.
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  And three, the Aloettes failed to retain medical records of a 2013 preseason concussion assessment.
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  so 2026 the decision comes down for that.
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  He was asking for $310,000 for those three claims.
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  He ended up with $25,000.
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  So you got $10,000 for failure to follow up with medical evaluation prior to the 2012 season, and the $15,000 for failing to have medical clearance prior to allowing you to
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  play, the Montreal Alouettes did not need to pay damages, so the other two are the BC lions.
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  we'll see how this goes.
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  because like because they are employees and because they have a
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  they're in a union and it's a collective bargaining.
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  I think it's gonna be hard for these players to get any sort of compensation if they sustain serious injuries.
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  but CTE is an ongoing and very real concern for a lot of professional athletes.
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  that's what's going on with Arland Bruce the third.
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  Okay, well I as far as I know, correct me if I'm wrong, but I I think this is the first time that I've heard of any sort of an award on concussion protocol or CTE, so so it's
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  significant.
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  In I qu I did look up the Canadian Football League in Canley to see if anyone else is and there is there was one I think in twenty eighteen but I don't there's no decision on it so
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  I couldn't find anything about it.
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  But this is the first one where they've arbitrated that was in the books.
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  the dollar amount might not be that large overall, but it's it's a a precedent setting thing.
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  And frankly, if if they were putting him in knowing that he'd had a concussion and not bothering to run him through the protocol, that's that's not good.
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  Yeah, I I don't know what the protocols were in two thousand and twelve and that might be the difference in the amount of money that he got.
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  if there was minimum protocols and they kinda did it as much as they had to or ran some sort of basic check and or there were no protocols, then it might not have been.
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  I don't remember as they evolved what year that was.
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  it I think that might have something to may have something to do with the amount that he's that he uh that he got.
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  So but because I don't think I don't think today
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  with the protocols that are in place, if you could prove that that they ignored those protocols and let you back on the field, then I think you get a you to get a much larger
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  settlement.
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  Okay.
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  that that makes some sense.
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  I I have to admit I might have been talking out the wrong end of my cake hole there because like you, I don't know when the protocols changed.
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  It feels to me like they've been there for a long time, but then that's thirteen years ago.
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  So well, we'll see if there's any further of this.
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  But what but w
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  to I seem to remember when he first brought the case, people kind of went, come on, that was before everything even happened.
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  and he seemed to have brought the case a couple of years after he'd left the league too, not while he was playing.
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  that's how I remember it.
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  I think that the timing of it may be partial of this of this settlement uh with the arbitrary.
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  Was there any indication was it was it a court appointed arbitrator or how did the arbitrator come who who was
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  I don't know like it wasn't through the courts, although it's a court decision, so it might have been a court apported arbitrator.
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  I don't know how I am not an employment lawyer, so I actually don't know.
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  But but uh the CFL was not happy to arbitrate.
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  They were really upset and actually the CFL Players Association joined Arlan and Bruce on like their arbitration like when they tried to dismiss him.
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  We're like, No, you will arbitrate this
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  I I was gonna just say it's obviously in the players uh players Association best interest to arbitrate something like that to maximize that and to support an alumni, so to speak.
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  Okay, yeah.
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  I I was just going to say in I will say in his support, I've not had the personal experience, but someone very close to me has had the experience of a severe concussion.
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  And even without being put back into play too early or anything like that, it was two or three years before they realized how much the long term effects were going to they were
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  going to be suffering from.
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  So I can see him not
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  not bringing it to court for a couple of years 'cause it takes a while for you you realize I'm just not getting better.
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  But let let's move on from that, which is sort of good news for Arlene, and I hope you I hope things go much better for him in the future.
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  I hope this doesn't have long lasting repercussions.
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  I wish he'd gotten some more money, but it's something at least and it sets a precident So let's move on to that, to some happier news about a CFL receiver that got paid.
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  Now, GT, our European correspondence jumped in late here, so have you followed this at all or do you want one of us to talk about it?
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  no, please go right ahead.
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  I'm only going to just jump in where I can, but a lot of it's gonna be new to me too.
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  We we'll say your name every five minutes to wake you up.
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  Okay.
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  Yes, this was Kenny Lawler for Hamilton.
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  And from what I saw of the base details, they extended him three years for a total of a million dollars.
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  So that's three thir three hundred and thirty three thousand a year.
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  That's pushing the receiver market back up there.
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  I I don't n can't remember from
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  contract for a w a receiver.
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  Except for that one shady one that the Argos did like a million years ago.
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  Yeah, yeah, yes.
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  Rocket Ishmael who got his million or whatever, yes.
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  but like I said, good for Kenny, but I I could be wrong, but for I didn't check, but looking back to the uh three down's highest paid receiver list, I didn't think we had a
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  receiver over three hundred thousand now until this.
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  So th that's a significant jump back up again.
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  also not guaranteed funds.
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  So nothing guaranteed, and I think that's because he is injury injury prone.
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  I don't wanna say that, but it's been known to happen a time or two, so that might be why it's not guaranteed.
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  So was he was he due?
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  Um or is this just out of the blue?
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  Why would why would he re sign now why would they extend him at this point?
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  Interesting.
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  Just was like did he sign him didn't he sign a one year deal or a two year deal when he came over last year?
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  What was I don't remember and that's it's just interesting that all that is at this point in time that they they decide to renegotiate or renew his contract.
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  Three years, I think the three years is as big as the coin because that's that's a long time in in today's world in any football league and in this one in particular.
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  So it's nice to see these longer term contracts that we've been seeing for two years extensions, but to make it a three year deal that's that's that's pretty nice.
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  look what happened to Mac.
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  He signed a three or four year I mean so I don't trust anyone.
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  I'm like, that's nice, we'll see.
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  Yeah, none of it's guaranteed money, I agree with you, MJ.
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  There's not none of it's guaranteed.
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  Um but just the mere fact that he got them to put a three year term on there is is nice.
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  definitely the contracts favor the league because y if they want you, you they can keep you the three years.
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  If they don't, especi if there's nothing guaranteed and and depending how much of it was a signing bonus, you know, they could walk away tomorrow if they wanted to.
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  you're right, he does take some injuries, but on the other hand, I believe he takes those injuries because he's one of those players that just
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  When he has to make a play, it's the only thing that matters.
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  His body is a secondary consideration.
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  And you too often see players like that that uh I'm trying to think of the safety that down in the NFL the Colts had a few years ago.
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  It was Bob Sanders, absolutely fantastic safety, but only played two or three years because you used his body as a wrecking truck and it didn't hold up.
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  But good for Mr.
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  Lawler.
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  Congratulations.
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  Give you some some walking around cash for your time in Hamilton there.
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  Alrighty, what else should we talk about here?
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  They any training camp news that worth talking about?
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  I haven't seen anything.
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  Anyone else?
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  Yeah, nothing significant.
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  It's been a a low key training camp season.
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  we get all we we get all the cuts on Sunday night, right?
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  That is the is the final roster cut downs.
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  I think there's still gonna be some significant players that are either going to be left off a team's rosters and whether they move to another team or not will be the question.
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  I think so, you know, but it's it's just there there hasn't even been a lot of injury news, which is unf un well fort it's fortunate but it's unusual for the last few years.
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  Uh I think uh the the Stamps lost a couple of Canadians to the six game list and so did Ottawa, but that's the the only sort of significant injury news other than a quarterback
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  we'll talk about later.
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  what else did we have?
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  Little bits and pieces here before we get to
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  The games, the the C F L app insight, our brand new app and stuff that we can probably
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  Isaiah Wooden's back.
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  Yes, I know, but I I did have I'm sorry you're right, I jumped a spot.
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  My poor old eyes are failing me.
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  Yes.
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  Well why don't you take this one, MJ?
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  Yeah.
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  Okay, moving on.
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  Exciting news!
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  Exciting news!
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  that means Mario Alford has been released, so that's a bit sad for him, but yeah, that's uh that's you know, special teams is a live-by-die-by.
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  It is.
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  But it's it's a cruel world when when you at thirty three, thirty-four years old, whatever he is, you gas yourself completely on a a preseason touchdown return to show what you can
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  do and then get cut the next day.
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  Yeah.
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  He did still sh Yeah.
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  He showed he still has some jump in his step.
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  Alfred will be picked up if any one team's primary return specialist goes down throughout the course of the year.
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  He'll get a call for sure.
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  Yeah, definitely.
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  I mean that the touchdown he got got called back on an illegal block, and when I went back and looked at it, I don't think he would have got the touchdown without that block.
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  I think it was significant to the play, but still he did what he had to do and he had some real jump in his step.
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  So that's it.
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  Isaiah in.
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  Yay!
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  Mario out.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Such is, such is.
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  I know you were trying to ignore the Ti Cat news, but no.
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  there we go, yes.
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  Well, it's our preseason too, you know, so I'll have a talk with the coach, we'll go over the tape, that won't happen again.
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  All right, moving on to where I was.
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  The new CFL app and site and fantasy and whatnot.
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  Well, they've released the fantasy.
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  Yay.
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  It's and basically there's two formats.
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  You can set it up like a more traditional fantasy football league where there's only six teams allowed in a league.
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  You do your preseason draft.
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  If you want to add anyone through the season, you have to use the waiver wire and and all of that.
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  I'm not going to be getting into that part.
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  It's I'm sure it's great for some of the people that are big on it, but I'll be sticking with the weekly and I sent y'all both uh a text the other day saying the CFL Football
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  Podcast Networks the league is going again this year.
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  So I've dumped my cash in already.
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  I'll be back trying to represent us on there and hopefully I'll make that final step I lost in the finals last year, so
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  When I put it in, I talked to Adam Stuart who's the commissioner of the league, and also beat me, which so you might say there's a fix in there somewhere.
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  I don't know.
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  But we talked a little bit and did some of the lowest key trash talking you'll ever see.
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  And we're ready to go.
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  So you all have to let me know.
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  You don't have to declare here to the fans, but you have to let me know before May thirtieth if you want in.
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  And we could we were allowed to have more from the one podcast if you'd like if you think it's fun and you'd like to give it a try.
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  Alrighty.
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  so it so it's bas that's the the same week by week where we pick the five uh the same thing that we did last year.
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  you pick a fr a fresh team every week.
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  Your points for the week count towards your season total and each week we'll play one other person.
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  You go head to head, even though it's a w a weekly kind of thing.
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  So the wins, the more wins you have, the more it counts as towards getting into the the playoffs.
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  And then
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  there are some weeks where you play against the league average we'll talk about that through the season and we'll see what's going on.
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  I'll be doing the uh adjacent show, old man plays C FL Fantasy again this year with my tips and picks and
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  Be the same format unless either of you end up muscling in with me on it.
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  So we'll see.
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  Anything in the oh and the app, sorry.
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  I went searching for CFL app to see if I could get any news on there at all and I found, hey, they have an app, the CFL News Hub.
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  It's been around since twenty twenty two.
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  It's not bad.
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  It's basically the CFL website on an app page.
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  But it's not this new app we've been promised.
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  It No, that's true.
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  There's a week to go.
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  Two yeah, week and a half.
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  I mean, but this one, i if you're interested, it's you can pick it up off of i either the uh Apple store or
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  The Android whatever it's called with it.
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  It's CFL News Hub.
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  It gives you the news stories of it and the one thing that's nice is it does have a tab for the rosters.
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  So you can just go over and quickly look at the roster during a game.
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  Supposed to have coaches.
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  I didn't see any on there.
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  And and that's and that is um that's officially from the league.
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  I for some reason I thought that site was driven by
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  a one star review, the average.
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  Yeah.
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  it w I thought it was dri I thought that was driven by a a like a a local guy.
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  it's the um the owner is like it's not it's not the CFL.
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  It's the CM three solutions Inc.
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  Yeah.
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  All right, well anyway, it's there if any of you wants to look at it.
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  The schedule Yeah.
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  So maybe it's not so good.
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  I just gave it a quick
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  Should I read more?
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  So maybe not b maybe not something to recommend.
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  I just gave it a quick browser and thought, well, okay, it's saves opening up the browser to have to get to the CFL.
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  the important thing is yeah, there's a week to go, but I could not find an article anywhere about it.
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  Okay, but they don't care about technology 'cause they also use pitchcom and no one ever told us about that either.
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  You just have to figure it out on your own.
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  Do your own research, old man.
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  But but that's sort of an internal thing within the team, so I can see it.
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  If they build an app, it's kind of for us fans.
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  So you'd think they'd want to let us know.
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  Anyway, that's that's as far negative as I'm gonna get.
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  Well, no, that's not true.
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  That's not as far negative as I'm gonna get.
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  I'm just gonna I'm going to slide down south.
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  We don't normally talk NFL here, but I'm gonna slide down south.
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  And say thank you to the Green Bay Packers who immediately released Josh Jacob after he what s got allegations of domestic abuse and it sounds like a a pretty horrific scenario.
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  Don't have to say anything m a lot about it unless you guys want to, but I'm impressed that as soon as that news came out, they didn't wait and say, Well, it's we have to see
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  how this plays out in the courts or anything.
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  They just you're gone.
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  And he's a fairly significant player.
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  So I like to see that kind of
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  integrity in an organization.
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  Anything?
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  It's an old man monologue tonight.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm not gonna comment other than like it sounds like the right decision based on what you get.
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  it just broke today.
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  The story basically s I couldn't tell if he'd been arrested or detained and I don't know what the difference would be.
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  But it was on charges of assault and battery.
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  They said something about strangulation in there, intimidating someone.
• 23:06
  So the allegations at least are are not good.
• 23:10
  But now we can go to something much more positive.
• 23:12
  And uh MJ, you pointed this out, so I'm gonna go back to you on it.
• 23:16
  uh
• 23:17
  quick news for all those dog fans out there that they announced that Must Love Dogs got renewed for season two.
• 23:26
  So I'm I'm interested to see 'cause they'll be filming it through this season, how Brady's doing with Tommy Condell.
• 23:35
  And all the cute dogs.
• 23:37
  Yes.
• 23:38
  yes.
• 23:38
  Well that is good news.
• 23:39
  So season two and
• 23:41
  sounds like it's been pretty popular, so that's really exciting 'cause that's and I mean, what a what a gift for the CFL.
• 23:48
  Yeah, hopefully they get out and promote it a bit more.
• 23:52
  If it's popular enough to be picked up for another season, who knows?
• 23:55
  Maybe some of the bigger streaming services might pick it up too.
• 23:58
  Nation tried to interview Brady and all he talked about was his Must Love Dog show to them.
• 24:03
  It was the best
• 24:04
  Yeah.
• 24:05
  Hey.
• 24:06
  You know, he's got a good probably five, six years left in his career, but it's never too early to start transitioning to T V star.
• 24:12
  Yeah, he they were trying to ask him about football.
• 24:14
  He's like, Well, I'm just focusing on my T V show
• 24:17
  Yeah.
• 24:18
  Me and my dogs.
• 24:22
  Yeah.
• 24:23
  I'm not uh up to the end of it.
• 24:24
  I've got the last two episodes to still watch yet from season one, so I will do that upon my return.
• 24:30
  was an episode where all three of us in my house were sobbing.
• 24:33
  Yeah.
• 24:33
  dogs, they're just I love them so much.
• 24:37
  Winnipeg has got a marketing possibility there that that they should not miss.
• 24:42
  They should have on their website and maybe on some billboards around Manitoba, Brady there front and center with a half a dozen of his rescue dogs and a bunch of his teammates
• 24:52
  behind him and just label it Brady and da dogs.
• 24:55
  You know, it would be people would love that.
• 24:58
  I think.
• 24:59
  I'd love that.
• 25:01
  Mind you, I don't know that I'm a
• 25:02
  A typical sample.
• 25:03
  All righty.
• 25:05
  So good news for that.
• 25:06
  And another one I'm I'm gonna throw an audible at the two of you.
• 25:10
  Ask a question that wasn't on the show rundown.
• 25:12
  So for GT this won't make any difference at all, but for MJ it might
• 25:16
  gonna say it's w it's way too early in the day for audible.
• 25:19
  Give me a break, but go ahead.
• 25:21
  but I but I thought about this question and I forgot to put it on the rundown and and I want I'm curious about your opinions on this.
• 25:29
  If I say that a bankable elite rush end, somebody that you can pretty much looking at the season, you can say barring a real surprise or a bad injury, they're going to contribute
• 25:41
  to their team, they're gonna make a difference in the league right now.
• 25:45
  Are there any of those east of Alberta?
• 25:47
  Serezna in Manitoba might be.
• 25:49
  ah
• 25:51
  I'm talking the D ends
• 25:53
  well he plays he plays both inside and outside.
• 25:56
  So still Hauser after last year, whether he can come back this year with the same kind of year, he could be.
• 26:03
  Uh I'd say Ad Adame Berglin in Montreal is is somebody that I would say is that.
• 26:11
  and I'm not sh no there's no one I don't think there's anybody outside in Ottawa right now, or in Toronto.
• 26:19
  So no I
• 26:20
  Th that but I think there's a few guys east of Alberta, yeah.
• 26:23
  Yeah, f I forgot.
• 26:24
  Another part of my definition I didn't put in there was also that they've shown they can do it with multiple coaches or systems.
• 26:31
  And again, y yeah.
• 26:34
  Yeah.
• 26:34
  So but anyway, any what do you think on that, MJ?
• 26:38
  Anybody's jumps to mind?
• 26:40
  Birkland is the guy in the East, I would say.
• 26:43
  Yeah.
• 26:44
  Yeah.
• 26:45
  I I I don't he could be, but I don't put him up there quite yet.
• 26:50
  One more season I probably will.
• 26:51
  The other two that haven't
• 26:53
  Whitna McManus in that position?
• 26:56
  Sorry, which
• 26:56
  an end, not as a defensive end.
• 26:59
  Yeah.
• 27:01
  Yeah.
• 27:01
  Yeah.
• 27:02
  uh
• 27:04
  specific positions.
• 27:06
  The the other two that I thought of that have potential, but I don't know that you can bank on them yet are Osai is Osai for Hamilton.
• 27:15
  He looked good in the preseason and at the end of last season he was really coming on.
• 27:20
  And then is it Chatfield or Chatterfield for Toronto?
• 27:25
  Chatfield.
• 27:26
  Again, he looked really good last year, but he got injured and he's had one year looking good.
• 27:31
  One year starting and looking good.
• 27:33
  Yeah, see and and and I see both uh again Hauser for your definition or Hausar or Hauser or however we are pronouncing his name now.
• 27:42
  but Hauser has been, you know, he's been in now back in his uh in a whole new regime in Hamilton he and plus the pure previous regime plus in Calgary.
• 27:53
  So I think that fits your definition a lot better than the two guys you just mentioned.
• 27:58
  And I think the va and on honestly, I think you're vastly underrating Adade McBurrhyth.
• 28:03
  He's he's a star.
• 28:05
  He just is.
• 28:06
  And he's not and he's seven years in now, and he's been a star s almost since he came into the league.
• 28:12
  and he's Canadian, which you know, again, that adds another level of expertise to it And he's got great face makeup.
• 28:20
  Yeah, he's got great facial makeup.
• 28:22
  In fact the whole team does it now
• 28:24
  You y y you've convinced me.
• 28:26
  You've convinced me.
• 28:27
  I uh I'll I'll say this on both of them.
• 28:30
  I I thought about Isaac Addie Berlin.
• 28:33
  So hard for me to even pronounce the name.
• 28:34
  And he has been good, but I didn't realize he'd been doing it that long.
• 28:38
  He struck me as more of a a more recent one.
• 28:40
  So definitely you've convinced me on that.
• 28:41
  And again on Houseir, frankly, he just slipped out of my mind when I was thinking about this.
• 28:47
  But he does fit.
• 28:48
  He does.
• 28:49
  But I but I was looking at cause I started looking at that and saying, Well, what have we got?
• 28:52
  Well, we got bets in
• 28:53
  in BC.
• 28:54
  we got Flo in Calgary and we got Carney in Edmonton.
• 28:59
  And other than that I was struggling, but you're right, Hassara should be in there and maybe Adam Berglin.
• 29:03
  And and you wouldn't put Willie in that list?
• 29:06
  Not now.
• 29:07
  He's he is he's lost a step.
• 29:10
  He's he's a gr he's great at blocking on the line, but he's not a pass rusher anymore.
• 29:15
  Yeah, but he still had more look at those knockdowns he had.
• 29:17
  Like that alone.
• 29:19
  The lot knockdowns last year alone.
• 29:21
  So he's not getting pressure on the quarterback, but he's still disrupting plays.
• 29:25
  And they they still scheme for him specifically.
• 29:28
  Every team does.
• 29:29
  So if you're still doing that, that means you're you're affecting the play, every play, whether you're getting there or not.
• 29:35
  Uh I think you gotta put Willie on that list.
• 29:39
  I think that's
• 29:39
  did I hear a pass interference thing where like the trajectory of the ball t changed so because of Willie?
• 29:48
  Yeah.
• 29:48
  Yeah.
• 29:49
  I will give you that, but I still say it's the other factor in this is his age, and this is bankable that you can count on this this year.
• 29:58
  Can we count on Willie doing what he did last year even with the backdowns this year?
• 30:03
  And as you get into the age where he is, I d I don't know about bankable.
• 30:07
  But that's okay if we had I love Mario though.
• 30:13
  He's listen, if if i i i if we were t
• 30:16
  issue.
• 30:17
  It's
• 30:17
  Yes, but I didn't say that Mario was a bankable surefire returner.
• 30:21
  I just said that he should have a chance.
• 30:23
  Alrighty.
• 30:24
  If this was the podcast opinion, you guys would win because you outvote me, but this is personal opinion, so I'm staying where I am and all the Winnipeg and Willie fans can go
• 30:33
  ahead, come at me with the comments.
• 30:35
  I'm ready for it.
• 30:36
  Ah, it is so much fun starting to get good comments in with the from the the viewers and the and the the watchers out there.
• 30:42
  So please, please rake me over the coals if you need to.
• 30:46
  All right.
• 30:47
  So that one I threw in at you at the end.
• 30:49
  The next one is something that normally you'd be talking about, MJ, 'cause it's C E B L related.
• 30:55
  Do you know about it or do you want me to go in and try and butcher the names here?
• 30:59
  I know about it, but you go ahead.
• 31:01
  I'll fill in.
• 31:03
  'cause yeah, 'cause all that I know is basically the saw an article, read it, thought this is great information.
• 31:09
  It is tell me if I'm wrong.
• 31:12
  Ryan Marqu Marquis Marquis?
• 31:16
  Okay.
• 31:17
  Has been announced the been announced as the president of the Seabares, the Winnipeg franchise in the C E B L.
• 31:25
  I think it's great to see a woman getting a uh a shot at a position like that.
• 31:29
  I don't know anything about her and I'm really not a fan of basketball or the C E B L, but all the reviews seemed extremely positive with it.
• 31:38
  And the other thing from what I understand is she's basically as far as fan engagement and revenue, she's taking over the flagship team of the league.
• 31:47
  They were they when I saw it they said the Seabears um averaged seventy seven hundred fans.
• 31:54
  in the stands per game last year and the next closest was I think the Vancouver team at about forty four hundred.
• 32:00
  Yeah, they are the best they have the best attendance record in the they they put on a show out in Winnipeg.
• 32:06
  so she used to work for the bombers.
• 32:10
  She was actually I'm trying to figure out what I'm trying to just She's was the VP of marketing and communications.
• 32:15
  And she is one of the ones who publicly called out the CFL for how they handled the Chad Kelly situation.
• 32:22
  She was very vocal about that.
• 32:24
  And yeah.
• 32:25
  more.
• 32:26
  And so I think her um so this is like insider baseball for CBL, but they had a lot of drama for the Sea Bears last year.
• 32:35
  They had a guy who was like their GM and their coach and he's he is quite the person.
• 32:42
  I can't remember his name off the top of my head and I really don't want to get into it, but it 'cause we we don't need to talk basketball for hours.
• 32:49
  But he left and now sh sh
• 32:52
  Marcou is in and I think this is a fantastic fantastic opportunity for her and the sea bears.
• 32:59
  Well yeah, we won't do too much of this 'cause otherwise we're gonna have to spin off a C E B L podcast here or something somewhere.
• 33:06
  But I will ask, you said this fellow whose name we don't remember that he was interesting.
• 33:10
  Is that good interesting or bad interesting?
• 33:14
  Bad interest
• 33:15
  he and the then Teddy Allen is their top player and um they got into quite the scuffles and I sit close to the visitor team bench at the Edmonton games, so I get to see all the
• 33:27
  drama unfolding.
• 33:29
  And he is a hothead.
• 33:31
  He was a hothead.
• 33:32
  And I'm not sure he would get team technical fouls all the time.
• 33:35
  They would get technical fouls because of him like beaking at the rafts.
• 33:39
  Anyway
• 33:40
  There was lots of internal drama, so I hope that she's there to write the sh and it's it's unfortunate because they have such a great fan base.
• 33:47
  So hopefully she can come in and get the organization to where it needs to be to the level that the fans deserve there because they are out there supporting their team.
• 33:58
  Certainly sounds like it.
• 33:59
  And she sounds like a quality person from everything I've heard.
• 34:02
  So hopefully even better news for the sea bears in the future.
• 34:06
  See all the things I learned.
• 34:07
  I learned who the president of the sea bears was and I learned there's a team the sea bears in Winnipeg today, so
• 34:12
  well yeah Yeah.
• 34:18
  They have fire for their three pointers out of the basket oh they have it's a whole show.
• 34:22
  It's a whole show in Winnipeg.
• 34:25
  Yeah.
• 34:27
  So but but we are gonna jump on to back to football and GT so so you haven't had the show rundown or anything, so I'll just ask you as a a segue here a uh a random question.
• 34:37
  What do you think the overunder is on the number of quarterbacks leaving Winnipeg training camp today?
• 34:43
  well there was at least one.
• 34:44
  I know that I read that story.
• 34:46
  oh the yeah the oh today it just yeah there was one that was he was actually released today, right?
• 34:53
  They released Wilson today.
• 34:55
  They're where where Yeah, he was the other so they were both on the suspended list th this past week and then uh and then they actually released Wilson today.
• 35:06
  I didn't read the story, I just read the headline that they actually released them today.
• 35:09
  So yeah.
• 35:10
  which tells me they shopped him around a bit and nobody was interested.
• 35:14
  So off they went.
• 35:16
  It sounds like he went in and handed his playbook in and quit.
• 35:19
  Yeah.
• 35:20
  And and apparently that's pretty much what Perkins did too.
• 35:22
  Now O'Shea's been saying, you know, good things about them still.
• 35:25
  They're good players and sometimes you just don't know that it's the right situation for you and that.
• 35:30
  I've also heard in the background that some rumors out there that Tommy Condell is difficult to work with.
• 35:38
  So that may have something to do with it.
• 35:40
  It may be that they saw Elgersma getting the bulk of the number two reps at camp and just decided we're not we don't have a place here.
• 35:48
  I don't know but
• 35:48
  they've made El Garisma air apparent without actually any proof of play.
• 35:54
  And not that I'm saying that Wilson and what's his face other guy are like the guy next, but from what I've heard, I don't think they had a fair and open camp in quarterback
• 36:05
  position.
• 36:06
  I I yeah, I think that's the case and and I can understand why, but again, it's it is what it is.
• 36:12
  When you draft somebody that high, you know going in that guy's going to be there.
• 36:18
  they're not gonna waste that high a draft pick without giving him every opportunity.
• 36:23
  So if you don't feel like you're getting a you know, a fair shake, so to speak, then you might as well just
• 36:28
  Get out of town.
• 36:29
  Tim White wasn't catching their passes because I just read an article saying that they're gonna run the whole bomber offense through t Tim White.
• 36:36
  Yes.
• 36:37
  And and Tommy Condell's the new coordinator.
• 36:40
  Go figure.
• 36:41
  I was like, let's check in on Ticats and Red Black fans for comment.
• 36:47
  I don't know.
• 36:48
  We we in I got some notes during the game where we can talk about that some, but yeah, it's
• 36:53
  filming his show.
• 36:53
  He doesn't he's just
• 36:55
  Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 36:57
  You know, and the thing is, you you got Tim White who who's got some nice moves and and stuff, but has had frying pan hands for the last few years.
• 37:07
  So if I'm one of the other bomber receivers, you know, there's a few out there that are pretty darn good saying, Well, we're gonna focus on this guy I'd
• 37:14
  I don't know how cohesive the offense will be.
• 37:16
  They have a great culture in Winnipeg and they are team first and all of that.
• 37:20
  But the stuff I'm hearing I'm wondering how well the offense will work behind the scheme that Condell seems to be putting in.
• 37:28
  No.
• 37:29
  to be proven wrong by the end of the year, but I just I'm gonna say I told you so before this even season even starts.
• 37:35
  Yeah.
• 37:37
  Yeah.
• 37:37
  Fun times in in in in Bomberland.
• 37:41
  Yes.
• 37:42
  Yeah.
• 37:43
  So there we go.
• 37:44
  Uh I think the bombers could still be okay this year.
• 37:46
  but we'll get to that with it.
• 37:48
  the other let's see, one last thing before we start talking about the games.
• 37:52
  And this we could talk about in the games, but it's it's significant enough to to cover off of uh outside them, I think.
• 37:59
  And that's the fact that um Alexander, Davis Alexander in Montreal played the first quarter and then came out of the game, which is what you'd expect, or part of the first
• 38:09
  quarter and then came out, which is what you'd expect for a starting quarterback in a preseason game.
• 38:14
  But then apparently they took him off to the hospital for x rays because of what he said was a hit on his knee that he'd never had before.
• 38:21
  And they're saying he's okay and he'll be good for day one.
• 38:25
  But if you were an Alouettes fan, how
• 38:28
  How comfortable would you be right now after losing him to a hamstring all last season, reading recently that he played through a college season with I think a torn ACL or
• 38:39
  something and whatnot?
• 38:42
  Yeah, and and then and now this is your first game and on very little contact this happens.
• 38:48
  How how would you be feeling?
• 38:50
  series in.
• 38:51
  Like it wasn't very much and Well the Alouette fan in my house is very distraught.
• 38:56
  He's very distraught.
• 38:58
  it was um and it was obvious on television.
• 39:02
  Like I saw it and I immediately said, he's not looking good.
• 39:05
  There's something wrong there and the story kind of developed from there as they took him out and then read, you know, that he'd gone to hospital and so on and so forth.
• 39:13
  but yeah, it'll be very interesting.
• 39:16
  I would be I would be sweating it as an Alouette fan for sure.
• 39:19
  I would be I'd be a little stressed.
• 39:21
  You know, because no matter what they tell you, it's still there in the back of your mind.
• 39:25
  And I'm sure it's in the back of the team's mind and I'm sure it's in the back of Alexander's mind.
• 39:30
  That yeah, there's still something there.
• 39:32
  There's definitely still something there.
• 39:33
  It's not the same injury, it's something else and it's something that's happened.
• 39:38
  So I would be a little stressed for sure.
• 39:40
  if Davis if he's not playing like a wrecking ball and chirpin and beaking and run i then he's he is not good.
• 39:48
  It's he's gotta be like playing on the edge to play as well, like at an elite level that he can play at.
• 39:54
  So that so if he is got it in the back of his mind a little bit to be a little more cautious, I think that's gonna be very detrimental to the Aouettes
• 40:02
  Yeah, possibly.
• 40:04
  I mean, he could play this weekend in the in their last preseason game, and then that takes oh okay, yeah, because I've I hadn't seen that.
• 40:11
  but they they said they also said that he wouldn't have been playing anyways.
• 40:14
  Again, because it was in Montreal is why they started him to begin with.
• 40:18
  start they always start the the Q B one, every team starts Q B one in their home exhibition game.
• 40:24
  They don't play in the away game.
• 40:25
  So that there was Yeah.
• 40:27
  yeah, but that's that's wasn't really a home game either.
• 40:31
  Um
• 40:32
  Rourke will have to play this week, I guess.
• 40:34
  but not necessarily.
• 40:35
  They might not play this week either, considering they're still trying to figure out who number two is, you know, so
• 40:40
  And and he as a quarterback, maybe you let him go.
• 40:42
  I mean, it's rare, but there are some players who don't just don't get looked at it in training camp.
• 40:47
  Not all quarterbacks.
• 40:48
  I mean, I I noticed that Saskatchewan signed Letcher Jr.
• 40:51
  as a returner and didn't put him in any of the preseason games.
• 40:54
  So either he's nicked and they're saying nothing or he's they're that confident.
• 40:59
  But with Davis, yeah, so if they they've ruled him out and that makes sense.
• 41:02
  Yeah, it's an away game in the preseason, I can see that.
• 41:05
  But I gotta tell you, they've said no problem, he'll be there for the first game of the season.
• 41:09
  If he's not on the roster the first game of the season and I'm an Alouette fan, the air's going out of me pretty quickly, I think.
• 41:17
  It's like PTSD from last year, my goodness.
• 41:20
  Yeah.
• 41:22
  And we'll see where the where the crumback world lives these days.
• 41:26
  Yeah.
• 41:26
  gambled right on this one, didn't he?
• 41:28
  Yeah.
• 41:30
  he I don't know if you saw you probably did.
• 41:32
  The again, yeah, this the three down article he said he had offers from five or six teams and that there were serious offers from B C and Montreal.
• 41:40
  And he chose Montreal to go to.
• 41:42
  So, you know, I saw someone commenting, I think it was I don't know, on one of the social media today going, Well, Ottawa made a big mistake in letting Trump go.
• 41:51
  I don't know it was them letting him go.
• 41:52
  I don't know I think it might have been more that they just they
• 41:56
  They couldn't afford to match what for a backup, what other teams are playing.
• 41:59
  Mind you, they paid Maier four two hundred thousand, so maybe I'm there I go again, talking before I put my mouth in gear before the brain is fully engaged.
• 42:07
  All right.
• 42:11
  I think that's about it, other than going to the games where we can talk about them now.
• 42:16
  GT, in your jet setting, did they the the the luxury jet stream that you took over there, did they have the big screens and were you able to watch the game?
• 42:26
  I wasn't that interested in any of the games.
• 42:28
  I watched a quarter of each of them maybe at the most.
• 42:32
  I watched to see how Trey Ford did, not good.
• 42:35
  I watched to see how Al Grismo did, not great.
• 42:38
  And I watched to see how the weather was in Hamilton and it was horrible.
• 42:42
  And uh because I because outside my window in the opposite end of the city it was just as ugly.
• 42:47
  Yeah.
• 42:48
  the the few brave souls that that sat throughout that game, I've full credit my friends, that was putting in the good work because to sit in the rain and the wind and the cold on
• 42:58
  that miserable Saturday afternoon for an exhibition game that vi didn't matter, you're a brave souls.
• 43:04
  So good on ya.
• 43:05
  there was a not bad number of them out there.
• 43:07
  I mean it was it was probably a couple of thousand at most, but they were there in that weather.
• 43:12
  So yeah, full full respect to Ti Cat fans.
• 43:17
  I I gotta I gotta say.
• 43:20
  Yeah, I'm sure.
• 43:21
  Yes.
• 43:22
  And and and I will say, just for everybody not to be whining or anything, but just to let you know, I couldn't watch the Friday night game.
• 43:31
  I had stuff on.
• 43:32
  So I thought sat through four hours of preseason football, so you don't have to.
• 43:36
  I can tell you about it.
• 43:38
  And especially I mean, actually it wasn't that bad, but especially considering the BC game was yeah, pretty much a dud and it was the last one I saw.
• 43:47
  I don't have a lot of notes on the second half of it.
• 43:49
  Pretty much, yeah, again.
• 43:51
  But
• 43:52
  yeah Saturday was my kids flag football and he scored three touchdowns, so I had a much better time watching that game than CFL preseason.
• 44:02
  yeah, exactly.
• 44:03
  And heck, three touchdowns maybe we'll play it in the CFL preseason in another decade or so.
• 44:08
  well.
• 44:09
  We'll see.
• 44:09
  Maybe.
• 44:09
  You know, he's gonna he's gonna be playing Olympic flag football, Olympics.
• 44:14
  That's where that's where he's going, that's what he's doing.
• 44:17
  would work out well 'cause ten years will be three out three Olympics down the road that he'd yeah, yeah, 'cause he's he's right around ten or so now, isn't he?
• 44:25
  maybe they'll he'll get like a a scholarship to the US to play flag football.
• 44:29
  Yeah, and and if he's ten now he'd be uh twenty for the twenty thirty six Olympics.
• 44:38
  There there you go, yes.
• 44:40
  But anyway, the the first game of the season was
• 44:45
  Ottawa going into Montreal and winning twenty seven twelve, if that matters, in the preseason.
• 44:50
  And I watched like I said, every game start to finish.
• 44:54
  So
• 44:55
  So I can tell you a few things.
• 44:56
  I thought Jake Maier showed why he is still in the league and getting paid two hundred thousand dollars as a backup quarterback.
• 45:05
  Because fifty one percent of his plays are starter caliber.
• 45:11
  Whoops.
• 45:13
  Bye, GT.
• 45:14
  He'll come back.
• 45:15
  Either he passed out or or or the or the uh the Budapest wireless uh Wi Fi is low in the hotel.
• 45:22
  So I'm sure he'll come back.
• 45:24
  I I I find this interesting that I was like, whoa, he looks like their starter job looks a little wide open.
• 45:30
  Then I was like, interesting that Ryan could do this, but Dave Dickinson and Corey Mace couldn't.
• 45:36
  So I'm like, oh Ryan, how do you always do this?
• 45:43
  It's true.
• 45:44
  I won't get too excited.
• 45:46
  and like I said, fifty one percent of his plays look like starter quality.
• 45:51
  It looks like we should be able to put out there.
• 45:53
  But the other forty nine percent still just aren't aren't that great.
• 45:57
  Now Ryan, Coach Dinwiddie did say that uh it's an open competition still.
• 46:03
  So I'm assuming Brown will be in there this weekend and we'll see.
• 46:06
  I thought to tell you the truth,
• 46:09
  I thought that who was it here?
• 46:10
  It it was besides Maier they also had, was it Barnes that was in there?
• 46:14
  And for a a young quarterback, he looked fairly good too.
• 46:17
  Um
• 46:18
  Yeah, um Bly looked really good to like their on receiver.
• 46:23
  I was like, that's a nice little pickup for them.
• 46:25
  He's looks like he's fitting right in.
• 46:27
  I because I was like, Who is that guy?
• 46:29
  Why is he catching things?
• 46:31
  Why is he catching hard things on the sideline?
• 46:33
  And I was like, look at oh, okay.
• 46:36
  you do look nice little pickup for the red blacks.
• 46:39
  Yeah, it's a nice yeah.
• 46:41
  You n one of the training camp possible surprises.
• 46:44
  Well, they made the Alouettes look a little silly.
• 46:46
  And and they played a l like Alouettes played a lot of starters 'cause they were playing at home and
• 46:50
  Yes.
• 46:51
  And well no one in Montreal was necessarily having a great game 'cause the feed was from RTS.
• 46:57
  They had so it's like a T S N quality feed on R T S and it was a great feed.
• 47:02
  I had no problems about it.
• 47:03
  But ex except they threw up a graphic at one time listing the the Montreal Alabet receivers that they had available in camp this year.
• 47:12
  And one of them was Mack Collins.
• 47:14
  Hmm.
• 47:15
  Mm-hmm.
• 47:15
  Mm-hmm.
• 47:17
  S somebody either slow on research or didn't quite cut and paste right.
• 47:21
  But I I mean if they could have both Mack and Collins, I'm sure they'd be happy to, but
• 47:25
  also had like they were dubbing English over French and like things were like they were talking to Jason Maas while the the Anthem was like the Anthem was playing while they were
• 47:34
  showing an interview so nothing was lining up.
• 47:36
  Apparently the guys got caught on a hot mic talking about his ex girlfriend, so boy, just all sorts of preseason things to work out for everyone.
• 47:47
  Mm-hmm.
• 47:49
  Yes, and uh let's see what else.
• 47:51
  I a la one of the landing spots for Mario might not be the Red Blacks, because they had this kid Stewart in who looked pretty good on the returns.
• 48:00
  He got one about thirty yards and said some very nice moves.
• 48:04
  And what else can I talk about?
• 48:05
  the uh yeah my title for this game was You Can't Kill the Rouge.
• 48:10
  'Cause no matter how hard they
• 48:12
  somewhere!
• 48:13
  Stuart Johnson is just fuming that there was two rouges!
• 48:18
  exactly.
• 48:19
  and the and the broadcast guys who were the Montreal broadcast radio team, they're right at the end of the half there there was a miss field goal that the returner tried to take
• 48:28
  out and got tackled and they were there about oh what a terrible decision and you can't have them doing stuff like that and I'm sitting and thinking, Well, first of all it's
• 48:37
  preseason.
• 48:38
  When this
• 48:39
  return is done or he takes a knee or whatever, the half is over.
• 48:42
  So if they're gonna score anything, it's him getting a good return.
• 48:45
  And yeah, let him give the free reign to try it in the preseason.
• 48:48
  When else are you gonna see it?
• 48:49
  So I didn't think it was a bad decision, but they were they were crucifying the fella over it.
• 48:55
  about other preseason because in baseball pitchers will throw like a f pitches five the same pitch five times in a row to a guy because they're working on it.
• 49:04
  And no one cares because it's preseason and these are the things you have to work out in real time.
• 49:10
  You can work things out at practice all you want, but it's never going to be the same as a real time game situation.
• 49:18
  Yeah.
• 49:18
  Yeah, I I I agree with that.
• 49:20
  It's the score does not matter.
• 49:22
  Find out what you need to find out and the coaches all know that, but not all of the uh the talking heads do.
• 49:29
  Yeah.
• 49:30
  And it was nice to see Desardan get some flying time.
• 49:32
  Yes.
• 49:33
  Yes.
• 49:34
  Arnaud Desjardin, who for anyone who doesn't know, I think he yeah, he was the Rouget Orge, the Val quarterback.
• 49:40
  He uh won the Vanier Cup I think twice and didn't get drafted at the end of twenty five when he was eligible.
• 49:46
  So they when the Alouettes decided two of their American quarterbacks weren't gonna do it and got rid of him, they called him up with a week's called him up and said, Come to camp
• 49:56
  and apparently he was working as a lawyer and worked it out with his t his firm to drop that and came into camp.
• 50:02
  He had
• 50:03
  Probably two or three practices and frankly he was the best looking Montreal quarterback out there.
• 50:08
  I mean, he looked poised, he looked like he knew what he was doing.
• 50:11
  I forget, I think he was like seven for eight or something.
• 50:15
  I should have checked those stats, but it was pretty good.
• 50:17
  And his only incompletion came when a bit of a scramble and he tried an impromptu shovel pass to a running back who turned uh his back on him as the pass was coming there.
• 50:26
  Other than that, he was perfect and I hope he gets to stick.
• 50:30
  A lot of knowledgeable football people are saying he's really just a camp arm.
• 50:35
  You know, they've got who they want.
• 50:37
  They've got Alexander, they've got Crumb, and they've got another kid who's injured right now and they're just trying to get till we he comes back.
• 50:43
  But I hope Desjardans gets a try.
• 50:45
  He'll yeah.
• 50:46
  Any thoughts on that, GT?
• 50:48
  Did you get to see any of it?
• 50:49
  Are you still awake?
• 50:50
  Hello
• 50:50
  I don't think his wifi is like
• 50:52
  No.
• 50:53
  Yeah.
• 50:53
  Hotel Wi Fi.
• 50:55
  Hotel Wi Fi.
• 50:56
  Only feel marginally sorry for him though.
• 50:59
  We're getting great visuals of you, GT, but no audio.
• 51:02
  If you're hearing us.
• 51:04
  No audio at all.
• 51:06
  Yeah.
• 51:07
  And I I told you guys in the in the email earlier today, I went and and redid my whole network, so we shouldn't have any problems on this end.
• 51:14
  And so far it's so far it's been great, but but I'm not in a hotel in somewhere in Budapest.
• 51:20
  Or maybe it's not a hotel.
• 51:21
  Maybe it's the back room of a party club that he's just gone to between
• 51:26
  you know
• 51:26
  Who
• 51:27
  Okay, well we'll we'll give him a chance to to to to come back in on things if he gets that straightened out.
• 51:33
  You got anything else on the game at all, MJ or?
• 51:36
  No, no, that was honestly the only one I watched, so I had a few notes.
• 51:39
  That was it.
• 51:41
  Alright, so it will be a soliloquy from old man for a while until until we get GT back in here.
• 51:46
  Because we'll go on to the the second game of the weekend, which was Toronto 20 and Hamilton 10.
• 51:52
  And this is the one I'm affectionately calling the Blob Bowl because the rain was it was a apparently basically a hurricane setting.
• 52:03
  And the rain was so bad they could not keep the cameras dry.
• 52:06
  The camera with the long shot was.
• 52:08
  Every time you had a shot from it and they used it a fair bit, what you saw was a bunch of brown, black colored blobs and whitish blobs, and you couldn't see anything else at all.
• 52:19
  And that was spo that was the T S N game.
• 52:22
  That was the one from the broadcaster.
• 52:24
  That was
• 52:25
  trying to stream it in between my son's games and it yeah, we're like, forget it and then we tried to stream the B C game and then the video quality was also very poor, so we're
• 52:35
  like forget it.
• 52:37
  But I it's I do feel bad for all the players on both teams because it's hard to showcase, especially if you're trying to make a team.
• 52:43
  You d you can't showcase in a game like that.
• 52:46
  In those kind of conditions.
• 52:47
  It's just it's too bad.
• 52:49
  Yes.
• 52:50
  That it it's kinda funny.
• 52:51
  That's that's one of the notes that I made for myself.
• 52:54
  I said what I learned from T S N this weekend, it's impossible to evaluate quarterbacks in bad weather games like that.
• 53:01
  There's no way they that they get a a fair shot of what they can do.
• 53:05
  So you just burn the tape.
• 53:07
  Unless they're Chad Kelly.
• 53:08
  In which case you can say, Well, he's the obvious MVP for the season.
• 53:11
  He is
• 53:12
  Looking better than he ever did.
• 53:14
  Apparently he's the six thousand dollar man.
• 53:16
  They built him back better.
• 53:17
  He's stronger and more mobile and and faster than he was before the injury is what they're saying.
• 53:22
  And you know, we might as well just hand the Argos the cup right now.
• 53:26
  That was that was my takeaways from TSN.
• 53:29
  twenty twenty six rehabilitation tour has commenced.
• 53:33
  Yes it has.
• 53:34
  And I mean I l I'm generally a fan of Lapo, but he was I I it appears that they were given the direction pump up Chad Kelly.
• 53:44
  Toronto needs fans.
• 53:45
  Toronto needs yeah, so I was not Yeah, exactly.
• 53:51
  I mean he and he wasn't he wasn't great.
• 53:55
  He was three of seven for twenty nine yards and
• 53:59
  I've heard again people defending him going, Well but you look there were a couple of drops, you can't put that on the quarterback.
• 54:05
  I'm sorry, when you're playing in a monsoon and you're throwing full heat at a receiver that's ten yards away, I can put that on you.
• 54:12
  th I have three hopes for Chad Kelly this year.
• 54:15
  I hope that every time on the field he is one sacked, B throws an interception, and finally, if none of those two happen, I hope he throws an incompletion.
• 54:27
  Like those are my hopes for him every time he is on the field.
• 54:30
  t yeah.
• 54:31
  Well, maybe though maybe um three down will treat like Elgersma and you can go every game and get a pass by pass breakdown in the article.
• 54:42
  That's what they did for the their the recap of the Winnipeg game.
• 54:45
  John Hodge
• 54:46
  that whatever guy that you guys weren't so high on sh starts with an S Shag Shag Shager.
• 54:52
  I heard a lot about him this week as well.
• 54:54
  Yeah, I did.
• 54:55
  And I've got some stuff to say about him when we get to the game, but yeah.
• 54:57
  that this is a burn the tape.
• 54:59
  Or is this a how do you handle May regular season?
• 55:05
  Maybe this isn't a burn the tape game, maybe this is exactly the tape you should be looking at because this is how games are going to be going forward.
• 55:12
  Yes, I agree.
• 55:13
  But but let's let's that's the another game.
• 55:16
  Let's let's leave that and and and jump back to to sort of where we were to finish off.
• 55:21
  Yeah.
• 55:22
  Well we still have I still had a couple of things that I just wanted to mention.
• 55:25
  as GT said, unfortunately Trey looked terrible.
• 55:29
  He just He yeah, it I think he was two of eight or something like that or two of ten and just did not look good.
• 55:39
  at all.
• 55:40
  But for the um Hamilton defense, Stubblefield, who, you know, they got last year.
• 55:45
  He couldn't play the first half of the season.
• 55:47
  He was coming on.
• 55:48
  He looks like he's come back in ready for bear.
• 55:51
  He was making plays out there, so yeah.
• 55:55
  I think that should be give you a nice big smile, MJ That that looks good.
• 56:02
  Okay.
• 56:03
  So we should go, actually in the actual order that they were played, we should go to the
• 56:08
  Winnipeg Saskatchewan game, but I for some reason I had that wrong.
• 56:11
  So on the run down here I put Edmund
• 56:13
  Edmonton won this game.
• 56:15
  Yeah.
• 56:16
  did I have them back where'd I have twelve?
• 56:18
  They beat them by much more than that.
• 56:19
  Well Yeah, hold on a sec.
• 56:22
  That was like I said, we're we're we're in pre we're in preseason form here, so I'm so Yeah, exactly.
• 56:32
  Like I said, we'll watch the tape.
• 56:34
  That year.
• 56:34
  I'm gonna I'm gonna actually type this in the C FL schedule.
• 56:39
  For twenty twenty six and we'll see where I got wrong on that one.
• 56:42
  Okay.
• 56:44
  Because as if you if you heard of the talk, the elks are like going all the way based on this one game.
• 56:50
  So I've heard.
• 56:50
  So I've heard.
• 56:52
  yes, it's it it's amazing.
• 56:53
  There's two or three Grey Cup champions that have been crowned already.
• 56:58
  Okay, here we go.
• 56:59
  Where did I get twelve from?
• 57:01
  I don't know.
• 57:01
  Edmonton thirty four BC sixteen.
• 57:06
  And I mean to be fair about the whole thing, Edmonton did have starters there, and even though it was a B C home game, they did not.
• 57:16
  They
• 57:17
  They started Chase Bryce.
• 57:18
  Nathan was nowhere out there.
• 57:20
  None of their starters were out there.
• 57:22
  But um Chase Bryce looked a bit better than I expected him to.
• 57:27
  He was eight for ten, seventy-seven yards, and he stood in there and looked had like he had some poise.
• 57:33
  Other than that, the the other two they ran out there Psalter wasn't great, and Degay looked Dog Degge.
• 57:40
  Yeah.
• 57:40
  Deggy.
• 57:41
  I thank you.
• 57:42
  One of the names I always struggle with.
• 57:44
  Daggy looked like Daggy.
• 57:45
  Did not look solid at all, so
• 57:48
  I heard Taylor Powell looked good.
• 57:50
  Taylor Powell looked fairly good.
• 57:52
  He there were a couple of things that were a couple of throws or reads that were, I thought, a little bit shaky, but in general he looked like he could be the heir apparent,
• 58:01
  and who knows if Cody gets hurt or struggles, they're probably in pretty good position.
• 58:05
  Cody looked okay, but some one of the things that I d I don't understand, no disrespect to Cody Fajardo.
• 58:12
  Every time I watch him play, I think.
• 58:15
  He's just he doesn't have it.
• 58:17
  He's that's not a professional quarterback out there.
• 58:19
  And I look at the end of the game and he wins by eight points.
• 58:21
  So it's it's something Yeah.
• 58:28
  It's
• 58:28
  I think we should have a an overunder on how many bracelets Cody has by the end of the year.
• 58:33
  Yeah.
• 58:34
  Hey, we'll let you organize that one.
• 58:37
  That's that's a vibe thing.
• 58:39
  That's an MJ thing.
• 58:40
  what else?
• 58:41
  I I had here I had full credit because BC took full advantage of the ad space that they were provided with by the CFL.
• 58:50
  There were a few CFL ads in the in the halftime and in the breaks between the you know the timeout breaks.
• 58:57
  But most of it was BC Lions stuff, and it wasn't the same thing over and over again.
• 59:02
  They were varying ones talking to the players and that.
• 59:05
  They had they obviously gave the city of Langford a bunch of it, because there was three or four Langford tourism ads that were up there.
• 59:13
  And the one that I liked the best was there was a long form ad, might have only been a minute, but it felt like two minutes to me.
• 59:19
  And they directly addressed losing the Western final last year and how it went.
• 59:24
  And they had the coaches and the players talking about it.
• 59:28
  And what went wrong and what they were what the what motivation they were getting from it.
• 59:32
  They did not shy away from it at all.
• 59:35
  And that that was confident and uh and yeah.
• 59:39
  Yeah, I'm sure it's on the BC website.
• 59:42
  So go and take a look at it.
• 59:44
  Yeah.
• 59:46
  Yeah.
• 59:46
  And I yeah, and just it seems like the whole administration there is a team that gets it.
• 59:52
  Yeah.
• 59:53
  what did I mention?
• 59:56
  yeah, Powell did have a bad miss throw on a corner route where he got intercepted.
• 1:00:01
  But other than that, like I said, mostly solid.
• 1:00:06
  Yeah.
• 1:00:06
  It's preseason.
• 1:00:08
  Just working reps on that.
• 1:00:09
  Yeah.
• 1:00:11
  Snyder, when he came in for Edmonton, looked like a third string.
• 1:00:14
  He looked like, you know, if you had absolutely had to put him in the game, he'd he'd play, but I I don't know that he's ready for stuff.
• 1:00:20
  Nate.
• 1:00:21
  DeMontague, I believe I'm pronouncing his name right, is the he was the first round pick for the Lions, seventh overall out of North Dakota.
• 1:00:30
  He made just an incredible catch on a corner route that looked a that looked like as as pro a catch as I've ever seen.
• 1:00:38
  And then he laid out for another one and hurt his shoulder and went out in a a sling.
• 1:00:42
  So hopefully he's not gone well yeah.
• 1:00:44
  Yes.
• 1:00:46
  I should go.
• 1:00:46
  Actually calling Audible popping back to the
• 1:00:50
  The other game, the the the or no, this is yeah, we're still in the same game.
• 1:00:54
  Boy, I'm in preseason form.
• 1:00:56
  On the Edmonton side, Victor Benjamin made a catch on the sidelines where he had to go up and coming down, he basically turned himself into a pretzel to somehow get a foot down.
• 1:01:05
  And that was some athleticism.
• 1:01:08
  That w that was a play that I went and played back about three times.
• 1:01:12
  I think they were also a little in the mission because apparently they the word on the street was that they were having a terrible offensive training camp.
• 1:01:20
  And yeah, and it was just like they were getting like some bad press about it, so I think they were there to show up and show out, right?
• 1:01:27
  Like fans are disgruntled enough in Edmonton.
• 1:01:30
  You can't make it worse.
• 1:01:31
  Exactly.
• 1:01:32
  go out and sh put your best foot forward and
• 1:01:37
  Yes.
• 1:01:37
  And Cody was doing his his bipolar act the week before.
• 1:01:41
  Came out one one one day with the quote, We we've got a CF we've got a great cup caliber roster on on the team here.
• 1:01:48
  And then the next day said, Our work in training camp is embarrassing
• 1:01:53
  Yeah.
• 1:01:53
  What else did I have?
• 1:01:54
  yeah, just on basically rookie stuff.
• 1:01:57
  Kyler Kettle, who was the Elk's third round, 21st pick overall out of the U of A, also made s a couple of nice plays, including a fifty-eight-yard pass and run at the end of the
• 1:02:09
  game for a touchdown.
• 1:02:10
  And
• 1:02:11
  I didn't think he was gonna get in the end zone, but apparently he he runs faster than he looks like he's running, or the D Bs were really slow, 'cause somehow I I didn't think he
• 1:02:19
  had the corner, but he got in, and nice to see that happening.
• 1:02:22
  And then the other one that uh that looked good to me was Isaiah Knight, who was back from twenty twenty five with one of the draft picks out of UBC, and he looked very good.
• 1:02:34
  But I'm wondering, you know, if he's good on special teams, he's probably gonna keep a spot.
• 1:02:38
  Will being Canadian hurt him when they're starting an American at running back?
• 1:02:42
  And will they maybe not want a Canadian at backup?
• 1:02:46
  Any thoughts?
• 1:02:47
  We'll see.
• 1:02:47
  Um, I do have a question for you about the field dimensions there because I heard that one of the end zones was the fifteen yard end zone.
• 1:02:56
  How did it look it yeah, how did that look on camera though?
• 1:03:01
  Weird.
• 1:03:03
  But for preseason I'm okay.
• 1:03:04
  It'll be different for next year.
• 1:03:06
  I don't know.
• 1:03:07
  Yeah.
• 1:03:08
  It certainly does give you a lot less room to operate back there.
• 1:03:13
  Yep.
• 1:03:14
  Yeah, those uh those high throws to the back of the the end zone, I guess, will still work, but yeah.
• 1:03:21
  Yeah.
• 1:03:22
  Yeah, exactly.
• 1:03:24
  But you're gonna have a lot more D B's closer to you when that happens.
• 1:03:28
  Yes you are.
• 1:03:29
  All right.
• 1:03:31
  thoughts?
• 1:03:31
  Well we we we've got to carry on without GT.
• 1:03:35
  dear.
• 1:03:35
  he said that he is he will not he's this c phone won't let him reconnect, so it's just you and me for the rest of the ride.
• 1:03:43
  All right.
• 1:03:43
  So sounds good.
• 1:03:44
  I'm glad he got here for part of it.
• 1:03:46
  I don't know if it's a phone error or an operator error since he said he's been awake for twenty four hours and and partying.
• 1:03:52
  did a European trip earlier this year, I can tell you that that time change is quite the doozy.
• 1:03:59
  Yes.
• 1:04:00
  Okay, well let's let's jump on then to the the Saskatchewan Winnipeg game.
• 1:04:06
  Saskatchewan or sorry, Winnipeg twenty-seven, Saskatchewan thirty-one.
• 1:04:10
  And I gotta say, this is a preseason game.
• 1:04:16
  It includes basically a two minute scoring drive by a rookie quarterback to to give the the riders a four point lead after they fell behind.
• 1:04:26
  And then it's down to the twenty second mark before the the riders defense picks off the whoever was playing quarterback for Winnipeg at the time.
• 1:04:35
  I I think it was who's Bryce Perkins, yeah.
• 1:04:38
  they picked him off on a throw not his fault really.
• 1:04:40
  It's like you know, you're you're behind, you've got twenty seconds to go, you gotta try, and he threw into traffic.
• 1:04:46
  But that's ri that's riders football.
• 1:04:51
  my whole life and in they're doing it in the preseason now.
• 1:04:54
  I don't know if I'm gonna have to worry about whether I like the twenty twenty seven rules or not.
• 1:04:59
  My heart might not make it through.
• 1:05:00
  They're just they're they're still doing that.
• 1:05:04
  And especially when they play the bombers.
• 1:05:08
  Yeah.
• 1:05:10
  Yep, that's all they're doing, yes.
• 1:05:12
  So I so I I I made a note to myself here.
• 1:05:15
  After we we finish with our with this, we'll get into our obligatory twenty
• 1:05:20
  thirty minute discussion on Taylor Elgersma I ca I can't I can't believe it.
• 1:05:25
  Like I said earlier, John Hodge literally wrote an article that had every play he ran documented.
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  Well, this was a Winnipeg bias.
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  Yes.
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  Yeah.
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  I d I I didn't say it at the start, but I was thinking I'd just say I'm in a bit of a mood 'cause I really want us to talk about something other than quarterbacks and especially
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  other than quarterbacks named Elgersma Kelly and Rourke.
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  I'm I I we don't need to talk about any of those three.
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  Mark didn't play.
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  I'm happy to never talk about Chad Kelly and Algorithma we can just but you know what go l still go read the Thirty Down Nation article if you want t some pizza Yeah Yeah, you don't
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  need us to tell you.
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  He didn't look good, but there were flashes of talent that let you see why people are so high on him.
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  He threw a corner route to I think it was do I have this marked down here somewhere i in this I think it was Dorian Singer.
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  That's it.
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  He threw a corner route to him.
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  That looked like Ricky Ray throwing to Jason Tucker.
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  you couldn't have thrown it better.
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  It was perfectly timed.
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  So he can do it.
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  He's got the skill set.
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  And what I'm hearing people coming talking out of camp there, and you know, everybody's gonna make the best of it.
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  But basically what they're saying is that he's just pushing too hard.
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  He's wanting to prove what he is and he needs to just settle down and play football.
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  So maybe by the end of the season
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  Maybe he'll be ready to be a starter next year if Zach isn't back.
• 1:07:01
  You know, in twenty twenty seven when there's when everything changes.
• 1:07:04
  Like I said, he looked good but not sorry that we're not gonna do the twenty minutes.
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  That's it.
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  Three minutes here, we're done.
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  heard um Brady didn't have anything going and
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  Well Brady didn't really get a chance.
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  I think they gave him two or three carries and and the that's one thing the rider defense still looked like the rider defense.
• 1:07:24
  Nobody nobody got much in the way of of rushing yards.
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  I didn't take note of what the total was.
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  play doesn't
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  Well that's the other thing here.
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  I did a look at the at the play count on it.
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  see I'm making myself jump all over the place here now.
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  Play count his he had twenty six passes and twenty rushes, which sounds incredibly balanced for Tommy Condell until I looked at it and seven of the rushes were by
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  quarterbacks scrambling.
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  So really it was twenty six to thirteen.
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  So two thirds to one third.
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  That's actually more rushes than I expected.
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  Yeah, it it still is.
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  And will you and that was the other question I have, can you count on him rushing that much in the regular season?
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  Yeah.
• 1:08:08
  I think O'Shea maybe is trying to make him, but whether he actually does.
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  But no what?
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  No.
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  Too bad, O'Shea.
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  You knew this.
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  Your entire management team knew this, so you gotta wear it.
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  If this is how it's gonna go out and you're gonna make your star upset, this is you gotta wear it.
• 1:08:26
  Yeah.
• 1:08:27
  Well, and not utilize one of the probably the best player you have on the team.
• 1:08:31
  everyone's Yeah.
• 1:08:34
  Everyone says s everyone says Nathan Rourke is the face of the league and I'll give them that.
• 1:08:39
  But Brady's a close second.
• 1:08:41
  You know, there's nobody other than Rourke, there's nobody else that draws the attention that the that Brady does.
• 1:08:47
  So And for good
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  lovely human beings.
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  Like
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  outside of that, why they could be wonderfully human beings and not play football and I'd say, Okay, so you don't play them.
• 1:08:59
  But Brady's a fantastic running back.
• 1:09:01
  Well they're both t top tier of the league.
• 1:09:05
  exactly.
• 1:09:06
  anyway, um like I said, so Elgersma didn't look good, right?
• 1:09:11
  Yeah.
• 1:09:12
  Yeah, exactly.
• 1:09:14
  Well and Yes
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  it just I'm a pretty jaded TI Cat fan, so
• 1:09:20
  Yes, well and I I don't mean to uh to pick on on Coach Condell.
• 1:09:26
  I don't know what he's like as a person or anything.
• 1:09:28
  Sorry, coach, but in my opinion, you're not a great match for what the culture of that team has been.
• 1:09:34
  I questioned it from the be from the start.
• 1:09:35
  Like I said, as a rider fan, when I saw they signed him as O C my first thought was, Hey Yeah.
• 1:09:44
  But on the quarterback's front
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  Bryce Perkins, who is the the third one who's actually still in camp, look yeah, not bad.
• 1:09:51
  He had some promise with it.
• 1:09:52
  Let's see.
• 1:09:53
  yeah.
• 1:09:54
  I I I mentioned what you had said to me earlier that apparently they're building the offense around White and he went three for three, fifty seven yards, but played like one
• 1:10:03
  series.
• 1:10:04
  Yeah, exactly.
• 1:10:06
  Yeah, it wasn't an important
• 1:10:07
  Jade a Ti Cat fan.
• 1:10:09
  It wasn't an important play, of course he caught it.
• 1:10:11
  Yeah, well I don't know that that's I'm not a Ti Cat fan.
• 1:10:14
  I may be jaded not a Ti Cat fan, but I kinda I'm with you on it.
• 1:10:19
  I am happy to have these men prove me wrong this year, please please please Yeah Yeah
• 1:10:28
  great thing.
• 1:10:28
  But until you do, I'm not sure.
• 1:10:31
  So let's see here.
• 1:10:32
  What else did I have?
• 1:10:33
  Um both teams basically have I know the two of you beat the hell out of me about not calling Willie an elite uh defensive end, but I don't think he's there and I don't think
• 1:10:44
  James Vodders for Saskatchewan.
• 1:10:46
  I think he's good and he can hold down one side, but I don't think he's elite.
• 1:10:50
  And they both have questions on the other side.
• 1:10:53
  And I didn't really see answers on the game.
• 1:10:57
  Nobody from Winnipeg really jumped out at me.
• 1:11:00
  for the Riders, Justin Weaver and Desmond Evans looks like they're probably the the front runners to make the team, but not not making me feel good and solid.
• 1:11:10
  They looked really, really good against the run.
• 1:11:12
  Their pass rush did not look
• 1:11:14
  look great.
• 1:11:15
  So we'll see from there.
• 1:11:16
  Anything else that I have here?
• 1:11:18
  receivers.
• 1:11:19
  Because um they're both looking for some new receivers to fill in where they want.
• 1:11:25
  For the riders, there were three of them that are basically American rookies trying for one American spot that they've got open and then you know maybe a backup.
• 1:11:35
  I don't know.
• 1:11:36
  But uh Johnny Johnson, I think it was the third, was four for four for sixty-four yards.
• 1:11:41
  Sexton, who's looked good in the first preseason game, and Jana Jr.
• 1:11:47
  were both pretty good.
• 1:11:48
  Janna Jr.
• 1:11:48
  was six for seven for uh a hundred and seven yards, and Sexton was four for five for thirty four yards.
• 1:11:55
  So they both look like or those three look like they've got the the front end on it.
• 1:12:00
  For for the Bombers, they had white.
• 1:12:03
  Who you expect would be there, apparently.
• 1:12:05
  Like you said, they're building their offense around him.
• 1:12:07
  So expect him to be good.
• 1:12:09
  Yeah.
• 1:12:09
  And he was three for three for fifty-seven yards.
• 1:12:12
  And they had Dorian Singer, who was three for six for fifty-nine yards and flashed a couple of times, but everybody else just basically looked like a bunch of other guys.
• 1:12:21
  So we'll see where that goes.
• 1:12:24
  There was an interesting moment at the end of the game when.
• 1:12:29
  They were getting a little bit bored.
• 1:12:30
  This was game was played in Saskatoon at Griffith Stadium where the Saskatoon Huskies play.
• 1:12:37
  First time ever.
• 1:12:37
  They've played in Saskatoon before, but at the Gordie Howe So this was a new field, and they had people on the berms at the end of the end zone and standing room along the
• 1:12:46
  sidelines and whatnot.
• 1:12:47
  they did do a fantastic job of quality production on this game.
• 1:12:52
  For where they're going into a small stadium that's not set up for cameras.
• 1:12:56
  This was one of the best looking games of the weekend as far as camera work went and everything.
• 1:13:00
  But uh late in the game when there's a bit of break in action, they pan through the crowd and a couple of frankly very skinny probably about a hundred and thirty pounds soaking
• 1:13:12
  wet, maybe five foot pasty scale, pasty sorry.
• 1:13:17
  Can't even talk.
• 1:13:19
  Pasty skinned farm boys see the camera coming at them and decide now's the time we've got to rip our tops off and slam back a beer.
• 1:13:29
  I'm sitting thinking Yes, that's a moment that if anybody keeps the video for you, you will be embarrassed about for the rest of your life.
• 1:13:39
  Yes.
• 1:13:40
  There there are people who should
• 1:13:42
  flip off their tops and and start posing when the camera hits them and there's people who shouldn't.
• 1:13:49
  Well, men.
• 1:13:50
  There's men that do.
• 1:13:53
  Okay.
• 1:13:53
  uh
• 1:13:56
  I hope you had fun of the game.
• 1:13:58
  Tarp soff
• 1:13:59
  Yeah.
• 1:14:00
  Yeah.
• 1:14:01
  Sun's out, guns out.
• 1:14:02
  Yeah.
• 1:14:04
  And the only other thing I got here is really, um, it'll be interesting to see what happens with the riders in their first preseason or in their first season game, because
• 1:14:14
  they're done their preseason, so they don't play this weekend and they have the bye.
• 1:14:18
  One of three teams with the bye in the the first week.
• 1:14:20
  So they've got three weeks of beating up each other at
• 1:14:24
  practices again before they actually get into a real football game.
• 1:14:28
  And I don't know what that'll do to their
• 1:14:30
  You know, their overall attitude, how rusty are they?
• 1:14:33
  I will say that when they had basically the starting offenses and defenses in there, both Trevor Harris and Colaros looked good.
• 1:14:40
  So as long as they're healthy, both those teams have a chance, but
• 1:14:44
  That's about it.
• 1:14:45
  Okay.
• 1:14:46
  the last thing I had, I didn't know if we'd need to talk about this.
• 1:14:49
  I don't know that we do.
• 1:14:50
  I was just gonna w wanna wanted to have a quick discussion about with only the two of us and and you didn't get to see most of the games, it's less of a discussion, but about the
• 1:14:59
  quality of the production on this year's preseason game so far.
• 1:15:04
  And frankly, I think it's been it'd be nice to see more ads in all the games and more variety, but I also gotta keep in mind
• 1:15:12
  Not everybody's sitting through four games of that and watching it the way I am.
• 1:15:15
  For most people, it's not probably not that annoying.
• 1:15:18
  The video production has generally been pretty good.
• 1:15:21
  There were a couple that were a little off, but it's been better than last year.
• 1:15:25
  Frankly, the worst one of them Yeah, the worst one of them all was TSN with their rain.
• 1:15:31
  You know, that was the blob ball, but yeah.
• 1:15:33
  And really the only other mistake that I that I found that was annoying.
• 1:15:40
  was the Ottawa and Montreal game, they had one channel audio.
• 1:15:44
  It was a stereo feed, but only the audio was only on one side of it.
• 1:15:48
  So as a result, the announcers audio was considerably quieter than when they went to commercials.
• 1:15:54
  And so watching the game, yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:00
  This is going on all of a sudden.
• 1:16:05
  So yeah.
• 1:16:06
  But other than that
• 1:16:06
  to play CFL Fantasy?
• 1:16:08
  Like my god Yeah.
• 1:16:14
  Play pick Yeah ninety mi seven decibels.
• 1:16:20
  enjoy like people get like I just as I said last week, I just enjoy like hearing some radio announcers from around around the league and some hot mic moments and what people
• 1:16:29
  are up to and that's kind of it's a little local flair.
• 1:16:33
  It's kind of fun.
• 1:16:34
  Yes.
• 1:16:36
  Yeah, and hey, I think we're done and it's only an hour and a half.
• 1:16:40
  We're giving people a break in the preseason year.
• 1:16:43
  Any closing thoughts for us?
• 1:16:45
  Yeah, so you can find me over on Blue Sky at Sports of Plans.
• 1:16:49
  I'm on Instagram, posting away, and thanks to all the Calgary Stamp Stampeders fans who wanted some uh tarot insights.
• 1:16:56
  They they are all excited for the season.
• 1:16:59
  I like it.
• 1:17:00
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• 1:17:06
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• 1:17:19
  Stamps.
• 1:17:20
  the the the w the worst GT impersonation ever.
• 1:17:24
  I hope he gets I hope well, I hope he's c I don't know when he's coming back.
• 1:17:29
  With we didn't know he was in Europe.
• 1:17:31
  I I hope he can get back.
• 1:17:33
  You know.
• 1:17:34
  We w our military doesn't have a SEAL team if he gets held hostage or something, so I don't know.
• 1:17:38
  We send our crack beaver team in to get him maybe, but
• 1:17:41
  actually it's kinda nice over here.
• 1:17:43
  Maybe I don't want it.
• 1:17:45
  Yeah.
• 1:17:46
  Hey, and if I stay here I can stream CFL plus free all season.
• 1:17:53
  Yeah.
• 1:17:54
  good luck out there, GT Let us know if if and when you're coming back.
• 1:17:59
  So yeah, exactly.
• 1:18:02
  So this show No one's gonna accuse us of being overly professional.
• 1:18:06
  The that show it's a good show, but it that CFL outsiders, I like it, but it's so overproduced.
• 1:18:13
  You know, everything's just boom boom.
• 1:18:14
  Okay.
• 1:18:15
  Me Yeah, well that's wrapping up.
• 1:18:18
  Time to go home.
• 1:18:19
  Yes, I like that.
• 1:18:20
  So me, uh you can get me at oldman dash sac dot blue sky dot social.
• 1:18:25
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• 1:18:31
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• 1:18:34
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• 1:18:40
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• 1:18:47
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• 1:18:48
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• 1:18:59
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• 1:19:02
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