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Best of Chuck & Buck 12-26 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Hey, good morning.
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  Speaker 2: It is Chuck Powell and Ashley Ryan with you know,
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  Speaker 2: Bucky Jacobson today as we're going live this morning here
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  Speaker 2: on Chuck and Buck Sports Radio ninety three point three
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  Speaker 2: k j R FM on this Friday. Yeah, you come
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  Speaker 2: back to work on a Friday, boy, you can really
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  Speaker 2: work the system sometimes and then get a couple more
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  Speaker 2: days off.
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  Speaker 1: How many days do we get off next week? By
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  Speaker 1: the way?
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  Speaker 3: Two?
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, New Year's even New Year's Day. I'm taking the
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  Speaker 4: Friday off.
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  Speaker 1: And you're taking the Friday off? Are you sure? Because
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  Speaker 1: I can really I can really sell this process here.
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  Speaker 5: No, I mean I think I would like us to
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  Speaker 5: get more.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, what I'm saying I can really you know, I'm.
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  Speaker 5: Experiencing you really like it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you got the Monday the Tuesday off and
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  Speaker 4: I did not, So it doesn't feel like a Monday
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  Speaker 4: to me.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, it feels like just a day of weirdness.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Just just I'm telling you, like, you can probably package
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  Speaker 1: this thing and sell it.
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  Speaker 5: I like your plan. I would do Monday Tuesday and
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  Speaker 5: then just come to.
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  Speaker 2: Work Friday, get the what you know, five days off
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  Speaker 2: work a day and then get two days off.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's a rough life.
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  Speaker 1: There's probably something to it.
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  Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of somethings to it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So anyway, I'll do my best to get through.
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  Speaker 5: Today segment at a time.
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  Speaker 3: Can you do it?
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  Speaker 2: Check and get those two harder days off, you get
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow and then and then contemplate whether I'll be back
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  Speaker 2: on Monday. All right, So no cliche. Keys to victory
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  Speaker 2: coming up at six forty five. Again, after reminding myself
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  Speaker 2: that it is a Friday, and it is a football Friday,
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  Speaker 2: so we'll be doing that at six forty five. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't mention this, but we should probably spend a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more time on it. Woke up this morning to
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  Speaker 2: do more than a rumor. When Adam Schefter reports on
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  Speaker 2: stuff that comes out of Michigan, where he went to school,
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  Speaker 2: usually you can bank on it being some pretty concrete information.
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  Speaker 2: So lo and behold of all the people to have
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  Speaker 2: emerged as the candidate. Kyle Whittingham out of Utah, who
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  Speaker 2: just retired from football coaching, right, Yeah, well apparently he
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  Speaker 2: was just retiring from coaching at Utah because with the
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  Speaker 2: opportunity to be head coach at the at Michigan, which
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  Speaker 2: is a step up. I mean, UTA's a fine program,
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  Speaker 2: but obviously that's a step up. That was enticing enough
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  Speaker 2: for Kyle Whittingham to say, I'm going to come out
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  Speaker 2: of years of retirement or days of retirement.
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  Speaker 1: Or hours of retirement, kind of like my he's kind
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  Speaker 1: of doing what I'm doing yesday.
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  Speaker 2: He's coming back to work at Michigan on a Friday
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  Speaker 2: and then taking two more days off.
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  Speaker 5: Sounds like it.
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  Speaker 2: But Kyle Whittingham looks like he just wanted a better
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  Speaker 2: job out of this process, and he looks like he's
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  Speaker 2: emerging as the top candidate. And as a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 2: there was even a suggestion this morning that it is
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  Speaker 2: just a matter of figuring out a contract. So he's
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  Speaker 2: the guy that they've zoned in on. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how many times they've swung and missed, or who they
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  Speaker 2: might have been waiting for, or maybe we're getting a
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  Speaker 2: soft no from the Kaelin de Bores of the world,
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  Speaker 2: and then once he advanced in the playoffs, maybe it
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  Speaker 2: turned into.
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  Speaker 1: A hard no. I mean hard to hard to know.
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  Speaker 2: Jedfish, I don't know how much of a candidate that
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  Speaker 2: he was for this job. But his name certainly stayed
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  Speaker 2: in in it all the way through this morning potentially.
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  Speaker 2: And so look, I mean, maybe Jedfish really dreamt of
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  Speaker 2: being the Michigan head coach and he would have taken
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  Speaker 2: it had he been given an offer. I will never know,
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  Speaker 2: or well probably will never know, but there's got to
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  Speaker 2: be something to even if he's disappointed that Michigan and
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  Speaker 2: didn't fall all over itself to hire him, there's got
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  Speaker 2: to be something to well, at least this is over.
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  Speaker 2: At least we can I can stop being mentioned in
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  Speaker 2: rumors because it probably is not helping me as Washington's
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  Speaker 2: head coach. So maybe there's bitter disappointment. Maybe there was
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  Speaker 2: more smoke than what we even realized with Jed Fish,
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  Speaker 2: but it sounds like he's not going to be the
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  Speaker 2: Michigan head coach. There are even some people that are
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  Speaker 2: reported he really never was that strong of a candidate,
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  Speaker 2: where Kyle Whittingham now seems like it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: his job.
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  Speaker 4: Well, And the thing that I think is so interesting
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  Speaker 4: is all of these I mean, you take Dillingham, Fish
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  Speaker 4: and Deboor all three who were the original strong candidates, right,
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  Speaker 4: and from what I can gather, none of them ever
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  Speaker 4: actually communicated with Michigan about the job or were offered
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  Speaker 4: anything about the job, which I think is I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I guess in this day and age, you can easily
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  Speaker 4: say that because it's all done through representation. So just
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  Speaker 4: because you didn't talk to them doesn't mean your people
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  Speaker 4: didn't talk to them. But yeah, it does seem that
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  Speaker 4: now all of a sudden, very quickly, Kyle Whittingham, who
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I would at least want to be retired
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  Speaker 4: for a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean again, who really knows what happened?
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  Speaker 2: It kind of feels to me like debor might have
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  Speaker 2: been the choice. Yeah, and then he makes the playoffs
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  Speaker 2: and they seem perfectly willing to wait a little while longer.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't lsu. We have to have an answer now, Kiffin,
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  Speaker 2: or we're moving on. It didn't feel like it was
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  Speaker 2: that scenario. But then all of a sudden he wins,
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  Speaker 2: and now you're not gonna play again for another ten days.
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  Speaker 2: And if he wins again, you know, he's if he
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  Speaker 2: hasn't left by now, he's not gonna He's not gonna
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  Speaker 2: leave if he's in the final four, for goodness sake,
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  Speaker 2: so it kind of feels like that and until they
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  Speaker 2: got an absolute concrete answer from him, or if he
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  Speaker 2: had madanced far enough in the playoffs, then they weren't
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  Speaker 2: going to move on. Jedfish kind of felt like somebody
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  Speaker 2: that he's there if we need him. That's kind of
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  Speaker 2: how it felt to me. And then maybe there was
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  Speaker 2: this knowledge that the Michigan Wolverines had that Kyle Whittingham
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  Speaker 2: is our guy.
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  Speaker 1: We'd love to have him, but.
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  Speaker 2: We have to conduct this thing quietly otherwise we're going
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  Speaker 2: to chase him off, yeah, because he is officially he
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  Speaker 2: is retired. And so maybe there was just this we're
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  Speaker 2: being patient with our guy, the guy that we want,
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  Speaker 2: and if there's going to come a time where we
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  Speaker 2: can't be patient anymore. So maybe they were being patient
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  Speaker 2: with the boar. Maybe they were being patient with Kyle
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  Speaker 2: Whittingham to work through whether or not because not only
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  Speaker 2: are you not only are you staying in coaching, you
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  Speaker 2: gotta you're starting something new. He's sixty six years old
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  Speaker 2: and he looks fantastic, and he's still doing a great
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  Speaker 2: job as a football coach. But you're starting a new
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  Speaker 2: project that is bigger than the one that you were
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  Speaker 2: walking away from because you were tired, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: so you got to talk to the family, have an
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  Speaker 2: honest moment with yourself as to whether or not you
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  Speaker 2: have the strength and the energy to bite off this
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  Speaker 2: big of a wad. And that's that's what he's doing.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe it is just as simple as Michigan knew
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  Speaker 2: all along. They're pecking order, and they were willing to
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  Speaker 2: be patient, unlike most of these programs who still who
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  Speaker 2: in silly fashion, you know, just hurry, hurry, hurry, hurry,
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  Speaker 2: just a wait, wait, wait, wait wait. Maybe Michigan knew
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  Speaker 2: all along.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's possible that it's interesting because obviously, again
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  Speaker 4: we don't know this the intricacies of the way that
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  Speaker 4: this works. But with Dillingham, he got his you know,
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  Speaker 4: he ended up getting a great offer from ASU, and.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe he was there too, Yeah, and maybe they were
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  Speaker 2: patiently waiting for him.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe. But I just think it's interesting.
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  Speaker 4: I wonder how much of it is actually Michigan who
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  Speaker 4: has been going after all these people, or as you say,
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  Speaker 4: maybe it has been deborn. They've been patiently waiting and
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  Speaker 4: then like agents have been using this as okay, well
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  Speaker 4: it looks like Michigan's really interested in Dillingham, Asu, are
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  Speaker 4: you gonna step up and give him a you know?
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  Speaker 4: And so at least with witting him, they don't have that.
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  Speaker 4: They don't have to worry about offering him something and
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  Speaker 4: then have Michigan or having Utah come back and match it,
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  Speaker 4: and then there's another candidate that's not a possibility for
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  Speaker 4: them anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think witting Aam's grandkids can match this offer.
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  Speaker 5: No, probably not. Although Grandpa, we'll.
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  Speaker 6: Give you five years for five million dollars to turn
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  Speaker 6: him down.
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  Speaker 5: He's like, that's already my own money.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Or maybe they've just got a poem planned where Dillingham
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  Speaker 2: and Whittingham both fit the iambic pentamia, and so they
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  Speaker 2: just like, we've got to you.
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  Speaker 1: Need a Ham.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not we need it. I'm not throwing this poem
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  Speaker 2: away just because we can't find a four syllable coach.
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  Speaker 4: I can't wait to find out if he's sitting him.
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  Speaker 4: Isn't the guy what Ham comes?
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  Speaker 1: Next? Bellingham? There's a guy named Bellingham out there? Excellent,
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  Speaker 1: all right, no cliche?
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  Speaker 2: Keys to victory next. Sports Radio ninety three point three
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  Speaker 7: Get tricky here, turn it out in, turns out the Steed,
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  Speaker 7: look out Anniston. Then we get there, Force turns the
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  Speaker 7: sun line. Touchdown, Oh treble with Doad and Doctor trys to.
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  Speaker 1: Chump on tuk it away late, but they're gonna roll
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  Speaker 1: him down.
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  Speaker 8: Detroit keeps the football with two fifty nine remaining and
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  Speaker 8: it's fourth and forever.
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  Speaker 2: Chuck Ashley with you. Merry Christmas to you all, if
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: you had a great holiday. We gather here on a
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  Speaker 2: football Friday to get you ready for a football weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Greg Bell's going to join us here in about two minutes,
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  Speaker 2: our Seahawks insider, as we discussed the Carolina Panthers match
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: up with him here on this Friday. Hugh Milan will
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: be with us. Mike Sando will be with us later
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  Speaker 2: on the show today as well. We'll have your Friday
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  Speaker 2: ochoe and more, and we of course have headlines to
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• 10:34
  Speaker 1: Light, Choose Chill. Netflix was the home for two NFL games.
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  Speaker 2: On Christmas Day, The Dallas Cowboys defeated the Washington Commanders
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: thirty to twenty three, and then the Vikings twenty three
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: to ten winners over the Detroit Lions, who committed six
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  Speaker 2: turnovers in a game that eliminated them from any possibility
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  Speaker 2: of making the playoffs. The Denver Broncos as of this
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  Speaker 2: moment have the best record in the National Football League
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  Speaker 2: thirteen and three. They defeated the Kansas City Chiefs twenty
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: to thirteen the final score last night. The Seahawks can
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  Speaker 2: match them with the best record in the NFL with
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  Speaker 2: a win on Sunday against the Carolina Panthers. Kickoff there
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  Speaker 2: at ten o'clock. More on that with Greg as I
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  Speaker 2: mentioned coming up in a minute. NFL Week number seventeen
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: continues into Sunday, all sorts of playoff implications everywhere you look.
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  Speaker 2: Jacksonville at Indianapolis the Colts still barely alive for their
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  Speaker 2: playoff shot, and man Liam Cohen might end up being
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: the coach of the Year over Mike McDonald with what
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  Speaker 2: he's done in changing not only the trajectory of the
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: team but also the culture there in a very short
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  Speaker 2: period of time. Jaguars are man. They're playing as well
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  Speaker 2: as anybody in the NFL right now. Philadelphia at Buffalo
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  Speaker 2: will be the most interesting afternoon game on Sunday and
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: then the night game which will be interested in the
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  Speaker 2: Chicago Bears at San Francisco taking on the forty nine ers.
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  Speaker 2: Believe it or not, Anthers have a chance to wrap
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  Speaker 2: up the division this weekend, where the Seahawks might not.
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  Speaker 1: That seems weird.
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  Speaker 5: It does seem very weird.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: College football looks like Michigan is closing in on its
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  Speaker 2: brand new head coach, Kyle Whittingham. Of all people, it
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  Speaker 2: was just terrific at Utah, but he was retiring from.
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  Speaker 1: The game right.
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  Speaker 2: Only one thing could bring him back, and that's that
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  Speaker 2: Michigan job. Looks like that's the scenario that's unfolding before
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  Speaker 2: us here on this Football Friday, as Michigan and Kyle
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  Speaker 2: Whittingham are working on a deal for him to be
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  Speaker 2: the next head coach. College football Playoff resumes on New
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: Year's s Eve. Denzel Boston. Since last we spoke, no
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  Speaker 2: surprise Year has decided to leave Washington and enter the
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  Speaker 2: NFL Draft, where he's expected to be a first round
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  Speaker 2: draft pick.
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  Speaker 1: The Kraken Man.
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  Speaker 2: Just when you left him for dead, They've won three
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  Speaker 2: straight games despite being the most injured they've been all
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  Speaker 2: season long. They'll next play Sunday against the Philadelphia Flows.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's talk to Greg.
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  Speaker 1: Bell with the bell tolls.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning Greg, Good morning Mary. Late Christmas have been heard.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody listening.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, how did your holiday go? The last couple of days?
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  Speaker 3: Here? Oh fantastic. The whole family back.
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  Speaker 1: Together, all four of us, nice.
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  Speaker 3: Traditions back in. It was really really rewarding.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you all cracked open some Francis Ford Coppola prosecco
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  Speaker 2: to celebrate the holiday.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't. I need to get down there.
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  Speaker 5: Mostyles are disappearing, one by one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally blew it. Last week on the round table.
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  Speaker 3: I was planning on going in and I said, no,
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  Speaker 3: that's where I want to go in. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well all right, well we'll get it to you eventually
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  Speaker 2: and you'll never have to miss another celebration without.
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  Speaker 5: Your oral drink it all until you how yeah, we
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  Speaker 5: just pass it on.
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  Speaker 3: I need to get down there. You know, the best
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  Speaker 3: thing about my Christmas was for me anyway. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: watch one second of one football game. It was just
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  Speaker 3: a total Yeah, this is a vacation.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't watch any either.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say it was the best part, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't watch any of it either. It's just it
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  Speaker 2: just feels kind of Cheesy's like, first of all, you're already,
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  Speaker 2: you know, kind of the NBA's kind of cornered the
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  Speaker 2: market on this day, and so you're trying to steal
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  Speaker 2: all of their audience. Fine, all's fair and businesses war.
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  Speaker 2: But then you're sitting here with the you know, everybody
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  Speaker 2: having just tapped out the afford presence, and you're saying,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to watch football today, got to buy
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  Speaker 2: two streaming services. I just don't nothing about it. Feels
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  Speaker 2: good to me, Greg that they're playing tripleheader on Christmas
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  Speaker 2: these days.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess the only think, Yeah, I agree. The
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  Speaker 3: only thing better for me not watching NBA or in
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  Speaker 3: the NFL is I didn't have to watch the NBA again,
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  Speaker 3: get another day of my life.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't watch all right, So you've made it very
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  Speaker 1: clearly you spend time with family. I get it.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Ashley and I've been talking about this all morning long,
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  Speaker 2: and I would imagine Earn Bucky were talking about it
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  Speaker 2: back on Monday and Tuesday and probably with their families
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  Speaker 2: on Wednesday and Thursday. This Carolina team is just weird.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there is nothing consistent about them. There's nothing
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  Speaker 2: that they really do all that well. They've been outscored
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  Speaker 2: by fifty points combined this season. They've got bad losses,
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  Speaker 2: they've got weird impressive wins, and yet they're the team
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  Speaker 2: with a better shot at clinching a division than the
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks on Sunday. So is Mike McDonald preparing everyone for
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  Speaker 2: the weirdness of the Carolina Panthers.
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  Speaker 3: They are. The Seahawks are at the point where it
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  Speaker 3: really is about them. And it was even true now
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  Speaker 3: that's true of the Rams last week because there were
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  Speaker 3: certain things defensively especially they had to do and prepare
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  Speaker 3: for for Sean mcvay's offense, and they didn't do any
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  Speaker 3: of it very well defensively five eighty one yards, but
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  Speaker 3: when you talk to them about opponents these days, they say,
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  Speaker 3: we really are focused inward about us, and if we
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  Speaker 3: don't fix the things we need to fix, it doesn't
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  Speaker 3: matter who we play. We're not going to play well
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  Speaker 3: when we do the things like third down conversions and
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  Speaker 3: red zone and stop the run the fourth long third downs,
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  Speaker 3: which was a difference in the fourth quarter against their
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  Speaker 3: So they do those things, it doesn't matter who they play.
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  Speaker 3: The couple times I've seen Carolina, it reminds me that
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  Speaker 3: they get six games inside the NFC South every year,
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  Speaker 3: and this year and especially six games inside the NFLFC
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  Speaker 3: South are pretty easy games. And now that's including Tampa,
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  Speaker 3: who of course came into Seattle and ripped the Seahawks
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  Speaker 3: for thirty eight points. But that Tampa team that came
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  Speaker 3: to Seattle's playing against four the series, are missing four
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  Speaker 3: starters on defense, which is a big part of that game.
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  Speaker 3: But they have the Panthers have the Seahawks attention. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: this isn't a layup week where they just think, oh,
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  Speaker 3: we beat the Rams and this is gonna be easy. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: they're on the road against the team that if the
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  Speaker 3: Seahawks lose one of the next two games. They may
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  Speaker 3: be right back in Charlotte in three weeks or now
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: two weeks when the playoffs begin. So there is no
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: overlooking here. It's not that there is, though a chance
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: because it's a ten am game on a holiday week.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: They took Thursday. They didn't practice yesterday, which is very
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: unconventional in a sport where they're very used to their
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Sunday to Sunday schedule. I think there is a chance
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: they start slowly in Charlotte on Sunday. They're gonna leave
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: today after practice. It's just a different week. It's a
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: little off week. Ever since the Rams win, it's been different.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: And Bryce Young, a quarterback, is another one of those
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: quarterbacks who can get outside the plot, who can extend
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: play as an athletic quarterback, who have they've given the
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: Seahawks trouble. As good as the Seahawks pass us has been,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: they still do lose contain at times, and that can
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: also be a big concern.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: On Sunday, Greg Bell is with us R Sawks Inside.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: You can followim at g BEL Seattle and of course
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: complete Seahawks coverage at Thenewstribune dot com. All right, so,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: injury wise, how are the Seahawks looking for Sunday.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Uh, they're Quilling is back to practice fully and it
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: looks like he's not even gonna be on the injured
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: list that comes out today. So that's good news for
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: the death of the secondary, except Kobe Bryant hasn't practiced
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: this week. Again, they didn't practice yesterday. The NFL requires
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: them to put out of injury report anyway, so it
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: was an estimation. It has estimated. The Seahawks estimated again
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: that Kobe Bryant hats safety with the knee and the
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: hamstring injury from Charles cross Is starting left tackle. Both
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: of them didn't practice this week yet it looks like
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: they won't play again, so that means probably tyocottat safety.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Because Guandrey Diggs is injured and in fact been allowed
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: to the team to go home on weekends, he's not
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: going to go to the game and Charlotte, he's going
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: to go back to Texas with his family during the
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: holidays because on the practice squad anyway, he's injured. The
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: one game he's played with the Seahawks when he first
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: got here, he got hurt playing special teams and he's
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: not available at safety either, and Tyocotta has played well,
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: so it would be a somewhat of a different role
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: for Okata, who was playing for Jillian Love now he'd
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: be playing for Kobe Bryant. They are interchangeable at safety,
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: but if there was more of a strong safety Brian
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: often plays down a little bit more nicky min warrior
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: of course, makes all the safety's roles interchangeable anyway. Josh Jones,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: the Seahawks are really impressed with how he played against
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: the Rams. That's why they signed him. The veteran a
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: half dozen seasons in the league for three or four
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: different teams, has played both left and right side, and
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: he did it left and right side consecutive weeks. He
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: replaced Dave Lucas when Lucas missed a few snaps in
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: the Colts game, and then he starts to left tackle
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: for Cross. We've mentioned this hamstring injuries, especially this time
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: of year. In this time of the season, it's tough
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: and sometimes multiple weeks to come back for It wouldn't
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: surprise me if they really are trying out to keep
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Cross ready for the playoffs. They aren't saying that, but
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: as important as these two games are for seeding, I
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: think it's more important than Charles Cross gets almost a
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: full month off before the playoffs to see if they're
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: starting left tackle can play.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: They sure are making a big deal about Robert Hunt,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: the guard right guard for the Carolina Panthers, his window.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: He's been on the ir almost all season long. This
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: is their best offensive lineman. They've opened up the window,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: and all the articles about it are this improves the Panthers'
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: chances of getting into the playoffs.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: But they just opened up the window. I mean, I
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: If you're hearing anything about Carolina and Robert Hunt, but
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: is he going to be ready to play? Is there
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: a chance that their offensive line is going to be
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: that much better this Sunday after having sat all season long,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: and you just did open his window here two games
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: shy of the playoffs.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: No, I haven't heard anything about. Nobody that I talked
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: to in Carolina knows that he's going to play or not.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: But it would be tough, I would think. And the
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: purpose for the three week window is two ramp guys up,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: especially missed four months, and the fact that Carolina is
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: trying to get into the playoffs, like you said, and
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: their game up on Tampa Bay with two to play.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: They played the Buccaneers next week in Tampa, which I
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: think no matter what happens, if Tampa wins on Sunday,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what Carolina Panthers do, they still have
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: to be Tampa Bay next week. Yeah. So I wouldn't
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: think they're going to rush a guy out who hasn't
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: played for four months to play against the Seahawks on Sunday,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: knowing the head to have an NFC in South Championship
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: game the following week.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then who knows how effective he might be.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: But it certainly is all the talk going on in
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Carolina right now. Greg bellis with US Seahawks Insider, getting
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: you ready for the Seahawks and the Carolina Panthers on Sunday.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: And you know, we do this no cliche key to
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: victory every week, Ashley, Bucky and myself, And this is
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: the most difficult time I've had trying to come up
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: with something because Carolina is just so weird. Craig, So,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you struggled with the same thing,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: what would you call the key to this game on
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Sunday for the Seahawks.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Well, Chuck, it's like any other game. The Seahawks are
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: more talented than this team. They should beat him. They
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: have a better roster, they're coaching their schemes. They should
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: win this game. So don't turn the ball over and
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: let the team get back in it. The turnovers are
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: the great equal visor in football, and when you don't
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: turn it over, the better team wins. That's almost always
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: the case, home or away weather conditions, playoff, regular season.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: If you don't turn the ball over, the better team
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: almost always wins. And that's the turnover margin stat in
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: football is so telling. It's almost always the team with
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: turnovers loses. Not every time, but the better team is
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: usually will win if as long as you don't have
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: the mitigating factor of turnovers. And the Seahawks again have
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: a quarterback who leads the league in turnovers. Now I
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: know he's in better over the last few games, but
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: that's still the issue for this team to me. As
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: long as they aren't derailed by giving the ball away,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: they will beat teams they're better than. And I think
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: that's gonna be the case on Sunday. Let's see, the
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: weather's supposed to be no precipitation, about sixty degrees. Last
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: night checked in Charlotte, so that should not be a factor.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: No win that I saw. It's a downtown stadium, that's
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: a complete bowl. It's usually not winning there anyway. Let's
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: see if the Seahawks just play a clean game, and
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: if they do, I think they went.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at your photo from Christmas Eve. That is
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: one impressive plate of food you've got there. What was
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: the best thing on that plate of food? What was
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: the best thing that you had to eat there?
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: And who made it?
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Well? I made I make a homemade risotto. Well, we
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: went down to Jack's down at the market and Pike
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: placing butt some fresh king salmon right off the boat.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: So and a friend of mine had a roast and
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of salad buried beneath it. But yeah,
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: we had custom salad. My wife's the vegetarians, so we
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: had a lot of alternatives to meat. And yeah, it
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: was a feast to say, believe. We had fifteen people
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: in here and it was a family tradition. We bring
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: three or four families. The kids have been together since
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: they were in pre school and we've been doing it
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: since preschool and now they're all grown up, post college.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Early adults, and it's thanks for messing because it's a
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: good memory. It's a great tradition we have.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I'm enough, all right.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I probably should ask you about this before we wrap
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: things up. Derek Hall not going to play on Sunday.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: What does that mean to the football team.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not only gonna plays. When you're suspended in
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: the season, you got to go right away from the facility.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: You can't be around at all. Mike McDonald said he
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: was really surprised actually that they suspended him. The appeal
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: was that he was getting rolled up on from behind
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: and he was trying to avoid an injury and get
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: away from that, and he lost his balance and sell
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: on and stepped on the guy who's trying to step
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: over him. The NFL didn't buy it. The optics of
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: it didn't look great, which is why he got suspended.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: The NFL, by the way, is really acting more swiftly
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: here the last month or so in suspending guys. I
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: mean dkmcguth got suspended a day after it happened. So
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: did Derek Hall. The jurisprudence usually takes a few more
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: days or five days. At the end of the week
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: they're missing an edge dresser who plays in rundowns. And
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: as though although Derek Hall's numbers have not been there,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: he isn't every down type of guy. Now again, Nicki
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: min wore playing outside linebacker and everywhere. He'll probably be
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: able to more of an outside linebacker on set Sunday
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: because Haul isn't in there. But as much as people say,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: what's Derek Halled done, He's played all situations for this team.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: And I know Mike ncdhal really likes his aggressiveness and
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: his mentality. He's just a dog on games. I mean,
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: he's a bad dude once the game start, and they
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: will miss that, the mentality of him on Sunday.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: All right, well when do you leave? When do you
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: fly out.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Six six am tomorrow? And then trying to race back
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Sunday night to get home so I can rejoin my family.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: That's gonna be a tough trick postgame North Carolina in
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: the same game.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, game day, But.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, save travels, enjoy the weekend, and hopefully
• 26:51
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• 26:52
  Speaker 3: All right, Happy week I'll be home by Monday, So
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: happy weekend.
• 26:55
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• 28:00
  Speaker 4: It's the holiday seasons. You gotta have some proseco while
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• 28:45
  Speaker 1: It's Chuck Powell.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: It's Ashley Ryan with you here on this Friday.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. I decided to come back to work for
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  Speaker 1: one day.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you for grace meus with your presence.
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  Speaker 1: You're welcome.
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  Speaker 2: No Bucky Jacobson today though, So it's Ashley and I
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• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Nearly as nice as a pair of those David Softy
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: mall or paints.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I saw him showing off.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: Who wouldn't want to wear David's face all over themselves?
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: That had to have been a gena idea, I assume so.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: Plus she's the only one who calls him David.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: True. Yeah, I knew I did like them. Yeah.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I think we could sell them in the team shop here, Yeah,
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: KJR and probably sell a few of those.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: Which is actually very concerning.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, I agree.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that people would wear them to, you know,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: high falutin functions, but I think.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: See them wearing them down the street.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just down the street to the game, just at home,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: relaxing comfortably as Softy looks up at you can get
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: his face on your pants?
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: Can you relax comfortably with those on?
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: No? No, no, you got to be in party mode. Yeah,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: you gotta put those.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: Maybe I'll get him for New Year's Uh.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved it good idea, Gina. All right, let's
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  Speaker 2: get it going. Eight top stories of the day for you.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: It's the Friday O Show. The Seahawks will be in
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: action Sunday at ten am against the Carol Line of Panthers.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Greg bell, Our, Seahawks insider, joined us this morning and
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: gave us his key to victory.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: It's like any other game. The Seahawks are more talented
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: than this team. They should beat him. They have a
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: better roster, they're coaching their schemes. They should win this game.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: So don't turn the ball over and let the team
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: get back in it. The turnovers are the great equal
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: visor in football, and when you don't turn it over,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: the better team wins. That's almost always the case home
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: or away weather conditions, playoff, regular season. If you don't
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: turn the ball over, the better team almost always wins.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: And that's the turnover margin stat in football is so telling.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: The Seahawks again have a quarterback who leads the league
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: in turnovers. Now, I know he's in better over the
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: last few games, but that's still the issue for this
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: team to me. As long as they aren't derailed by
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: giving the ball away, they will beat teams there better
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: than Yeah, and I think that's gonna be the case
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: on Sunday.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that probably will be.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Both the Seahawks and Panthers have a divisional title on
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: the line the next two weeks. Unlike Carolina, the Seahawks
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: have already punched their ticket to the playoffs. Carolina still
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: has to earn that invitation to the dance. But unlike Carolina,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: also unlike Carolina, the Seahawks they don't have a chance
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: to walk off the field knowing their division champs.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, where Carolina does.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: A Carolina victory and a Tampa Bay loss and they're
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: both playing the early games on Sunday means the Panthers
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: have a chance to pay possibly walk off the field
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: as division champs this year, where the Seahawks would have
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: to at least wait until Monday night in order to
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: celebrate that. And I don't think we're gonna have the
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: chance to celebrate that, not this week.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: No, I think we've got to earn every single ounce
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: of it. And it's going to take a win this
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: week and a win next week. So one at a time,
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: let's go.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Hawks may start ty O Kata at safety Kobe Bryant injury.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: There also we know that Derek Hall's been suspended from
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: the league for a game and he will not be
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: available to Mike McDonald and his defense. Meanwhile, Carolina has
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: activated the window for return for their best offensive lineman,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Robert Hunt, who's been out since week number two of
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: the season. So they've they've gotten here without their best
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: offensive lineman and one of their leaders of their clubhouse,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: and every article that you read that's being pumped out
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: by those that cover the beat for the Carolina Panthers
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: talk about how significant it is to get Robert Hunt,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: and he could be the difference between them making the
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: playoffs and not making the playoffs. But he still has
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: to play. He s does to be ready to play,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: and so, man, you just activated him off of the
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: IR which he's been on since the second week of
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: the season. It'd be hard for me to believe he's
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: going to be ready to play limited practice throughout the
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: course of the week in time for Sunday's game.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's just in time.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: For that crucial Buccaneers game the following week, But there
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: is a chance Carolina is getting its best offensive lineman back.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Just in case you were wondering.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would think it would be making more sense
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: for them that if it comes down to next week
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: and that's when they've got to pull out all the
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: stops to get into the playoffs.
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: That's that's what their plan is.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, would surprise me. Despite being on the road, Vegas
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: believes and the Seahawks. They are a seven point favorite
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: heading into this game. NFL Week number seventeen started yesterday
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: on Christmas Day, and the Denver Broncos they have the
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: best record in the National Football League right now.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Nick run it and he's gonna run it into the
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: end zone touchdown right through Hicks.
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  Speaker 10: At the end of the run, Nick is rolling mix
• 34:12
  Speaker 10: throw and it's put from the touchdown by R. J.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Harvey. I've been a good week for al Michaels.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Uh boy, he's gotten kind of crushed the last couple
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: of weeks for his lackluster play by play calls.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Well, and I can see why he has when that
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: Seahawks Thursday night game should have been like the most
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: exciting and he could have really stepped it up a bit.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Uh Yeah, I.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Mean Bob Costas had to kind of confront this recently.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: You know that maybe I'm not on the top of
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: my game, and then half the audience doesn't know how
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: good I used to be.
• 34:48
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Uh, and man, considering that I'm one of the greatest
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: broadcasters of all time, really don't want to go out
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: with people thinking I stink at this job. And yet
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: that's kind of what's going on without right now. So
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: for his sake and his reputation, I hope that he
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: does hang it up after this year. I don't like
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: seeing Al Michaels and Bob Costas get criticized, even though
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: their game has slipped considerable well.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: And I think the thing with Al too is it
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: just sounds like he's uninterested. It's not even like he
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: just is, you know, messing up and he's trying and
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: he's got the excitement he I mean, he does not
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: sound like he cares at all to be there.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: I think that's fair. Yeah, I'm not saying that.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's where he's at, but it comes
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: off that way.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, And so then it's like, well, you could
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: fix that on your own, yeah, and it just and
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: so that's where I get frustrated.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: I'm like, you just don't seem like you have an
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: interest in this.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Seems like you're just taking a paycheck.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Bronco's approved to a league best thirteen to three,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: as I mentioned, but they still haven't wrapped up their
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: division either. As a matter of fact, it's going to
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: come down possibly to the last week of the regular season.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: They will host the Los Angeles Chargers. The Chargers will
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: need a win over Houston and then a win over
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: the Broncos. So as two really good teams, two hot
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: teams that the Chargers are going to have to beat
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: to close out the regular season. But they do have
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: a chance to still sniper the AFC West. The Vikings
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: eliminated the Lions from the playoffs yesterday with a twenty
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: three to ten win. Detroit had six turnovers in the game,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: six crazy turnovers. Also, I think Golf got sacked five
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: times and they were at bad penalties in the game.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch it, but it sounds very much to
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: me like the.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Detroit Lions kind of knew that their season was over
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: and they were just not ready to play. Yeah, what
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: it sounds like against an inferior team to them, But
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: that inferior team has the exact same record as the
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Lions have right now.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: They're both eight and eight on the ear.
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: Well and their rivals. You should always be up for
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: playing arrival.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: You would think you would think some soul searching going
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: to be done there in Detroit. I know that most
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: people in the country are rooting for the Lions and
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: the Bills. If their own team doesn't get the job done,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: and yet the Lions, they'll go another year without a
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Dallas won at Washington thirty to twenty three.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: And now we get ready for the weekend. Saturday, you're
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: gonna have a doubleheader. That Chargers Texans game is at
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: one thirty Saturday, and then Baltimore at Green Bay at
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: five o'clock. All four of those teams still alive for
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: a playoff spot. Playoff implications are everywhere in the NFL playoffs. Yeah,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: we'll talk about playoffs.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I got kidding me. Playoffs, Well, why wouldn't I?
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right, that's what we're discussing, playoffs, Jim Jim.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Every talk show sportscaster is required to play that once.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Here there was our one time check. We got it
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: in right before thee offs. Yeah.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's reacquired by loaf. I didn't I get fined
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: by Ieart. I've watched their HR videos.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this we every year. I don't listen. I don't
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: let them play on U y.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jacksonville at Indianapolis is the best early game if
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: it's not us in Carolina. Philadelphia at Buffalo is the
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: afternoon game of note, and then Sunday night Chicago at
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: San Francisco. So the Bears are in the playoffs, forty
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: nine Ers are in the playoffs, but both of those.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Teams still trying to win their respective divisions.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: The NBA on Christmas Day, there was there were five
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: games that were played yesterday in the National Basketball Association,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: and they saved the best performance of the day for last.
• 38:40
  Speaker 12: Here's the Joker against go Bear Cross to the left,
• 38:43
  Speaker 12: hants the sixteen footer.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: See there on the screen.
• 38:48
  Speaker 12: The Denver Nuggets oer for five and overtime and there's
• 38:51
  Speaker 12: a hit out of the time out by the Joker
• 38:54
  Speaker 12: at three. It's two minutes to go in overtime. You're
• 39:00
  Speaker 12: feeling it. Forty four points.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: For the chocher.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: He would finish with fifty six in the game, sixteen rebounds,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: fifteen assists, just incredible.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Just incredible.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: It's right, and the Nuggets won over Minnesota and over time,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: one forty two to one thirty eight five Christmas Day games.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: As I mentioned, as the NBA tries to remain the
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: league synonymous with the holiday.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: The NFL certainly.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Opened the door back up for them yesterday by airing
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: three subpart matchups with their portion of your holiday viewing,
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: and they did it on two different streaming networks. I
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: hope the NBA won this one. I mean, I mean,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: I get it. The NFL is king. I love the
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: NFL that said it, just I mean it. There's some
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: respect out there.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Ashlely. We talked about this in the last hour. The
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: NBA tries not to, you know, stomp on March Madness.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: For example, they sort of give March Madness, this is
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: your time, you know, to college basketball. If the NFL
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: was playing in March, they'd probably schedule their entire week
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: on Thursday and Friday just to try to take away
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: from college basket. But that's just the way they operate.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: And I think it's shady and nasty.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, it doesn't It does seem like a
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: lot of other leagues like to work together to yeah,
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: and to enhance all the products, and it does not
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: seem like the NFL wants to get They just want
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: to be like.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: No, wait, wait, wait, wait, we're better.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: Let's and we don't believe we're better today where our
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: self esteem is low, so we're going to schedule games
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: where you have games so we can remind ourselves that
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: we're better.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: And for the NBA, I hope you did well in
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: the ratings. Boy, you should have if ever, there was
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: an opportunity for you to win the day. You had
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: five good matchups featuring some of your best individual play
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: to showcase, and the NFL didn't have an interesting game
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: that they aired that does not for fantasy football. There
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: wasn't really much interest in any of those host three games.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: So I hope for the NBA's sake that they held
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: their own at least, because.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: If you got crushed by the NFL again, you're never
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: not going to get crushed. That was your chance. Okay.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: See, by the way, lost to San Antonio again.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: The Spurs are three to.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Zero against the Thunder, who have lost only five games
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: this year, so three of their five losses to the
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: same team. Obviously, there's a difficult matchup there for the
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Thunder and San Antonio's got a really good chance to
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: add at the trading deadline, but so does Oklahoma City.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: So we might be staring at the best rivalry vigeoning
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: rivalry for the next few years in the NBA. If
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: San Antonio is for real, there certainly is a matchup
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: problem there for the thunder. JJ Reddicks said, and his
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: team doesn't care enough after a loss to Houston and
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: then got criticized by NBA players afterwards.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: They're just not accustomed to an NBA coach.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Calling out his players as consistently as what JJ Reddick
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: does in postgame press conferences. And the next yesterday edged
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: the Cavs and what was probably the most entertaining game
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: of the day. All right, item number five on your
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: road show, your eight top stories of the day, the
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Michigan job. Man, it's been lingering. It's been out there,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: so many coaches have been rumored. Michigan's not really been
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: at the forefront of spreading those rumors. They've actually kind
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: of conducted this thing with some class, and Michigan football
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: really doesn't operate that way.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: Well, they have none.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: But it looks like we're getting really close to this
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: finally being solved.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: In order to expedite these.
• 42:51
  Speaker 11: Negotiations, we are prepared to make you a very generous offer.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: And we are prepared to reject that offer, like we
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: haven't even heard never at their first offer. What is
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: your second offer?
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Twelve dollars? Are you kidding me?
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: That is insultingly low. I don't even want to hear
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: who your first offer was.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Well, no, wonder, it's taking a while.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not going to go well, so.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Are you sitting down?
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: The morning started today with the news from Adam Schefter
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: saying that the new front runner for the head coaching
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: position at Michigan is Kyle Whittingham, the recently retired utaw
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: UT's head coach, retired you taught Utes head coach who
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: remember had had enough And yet apparently the Michigan job
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: is just that appealing that Kyle Whittingham would be willing
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: to come out of very short retirement to take the
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: position as head coach.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Of the Michigan Wolverines. It sounds like he is the singular.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Focus of the athletic department at this point and it's
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: just a matter of hammering out an agreement today and
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Kyle Whittingham will be the next head coach of the Wolverine.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: I hope their negotiating skills are better than what's happening
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: at dunder Mifflin.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would imagine they're a little bit better.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: But I tell you, for a sixty six year old
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: head coach who obviously felt he didn't have the energy
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: in today's game to keep going, yeah, with where he
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: was and where he's beloved and where he did a
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: phenomenal job.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I'm a big Kyle riting a.
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: I don't know many people who aren't.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, to then say to yourself, can I summon the
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: energy for a bigger program with bigger headaches and bigger responsibilities,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: and at age sixty six starts something brand new? And oh,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: by the way, I've got to fix a few broken
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: things in the program as well, because the last two
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: head coaches that were in charge kind of left the
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: damn thing in shambles.
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the thing. I don't understand.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: You had a great thing the way you were being
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: at Utah and then leaving. Nobody could fault you for
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: retiring and being tired. It was twenty one years, Like,
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: kudos to you, and then all of a sudden you're like, oh,
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: maybe I'm not too tired for Michigan. Now It's like, well, No,
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: there's no way that that just changed all of a sudden,
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: unless you were just not feeling Utah anymore.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Well, I would think that Kaylin de Boor if he
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: really did want to stay at Alabama this entire time,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: then he'll be relieved to have this thing filled. I
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: would think Jed Fish the same way.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: I'm hoping that he's not bitterly disappointed because he wanted
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: the job the whole time and just didn't want to
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: tell us.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: I hope there is good.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Finally, I'm gonna be out from underneath this thing and
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: I can focus on Washington Husky's football.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: But who knows?
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: So that saga could come to an end today we
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: shall see. Speaking of Washington football, Since last we spoke,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Denzell Boston entered the NFL Draft, No surprise there, He's
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: gonna be a first round pick, and the college football
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Playoff is going to resume on New Year's Eve. Just
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: out of nowhere, the Seattle crack and decided, Hey, we're
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: just not gonna lose anymore.
• 46:02
  Speaker 10: The call long lead feet broken up, Tobenen got on
• 46:05
  Speaker 10: ahead Everley with the empty ninety Scarss sword, and every
• 46:12
  Speaker 10: flip boards delivers a.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Big blow and it could.
• 46:16
  Speaker 10: Be the final one thirty five second slept in regulation
• 46:22
  Speaker 10: as every breaking the time with back to back goals
• 46:26
  Speaker 10: and the Krack and take a three to one lead.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: World's nicest human Mike Benton, I mean, who would win that?
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Between him, Everett and.
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: Al being the nicest.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like they're the three nicest human beings and they're
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: all on our Cracking broadcast together.
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: We got a nice team.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a nice team. Get a nice, nice
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: group of group of fellas.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Kracking have won three straight, this after dropping
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: ten of eleven games and losing several key players to
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: injuries during that stretch of bad play. And yet now
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden they can't lose, right, they will
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: try to make it four in a row Sunday at
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: five when they host the Philadelphia Flyers. And finally, I
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: have not had a chance to talk about this. I
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: know that Ashley and Bucky have, but the Mariners have
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: signed Rob Refsnyder, as you know, to a one year deal,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: and that is ref Sneider, not Rob Snyder.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: You can do it. Yeah, no, no, not.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: The same person, yeah, remotely spelled the same. So I
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: have not had a chance to weigh in on this,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: and I will do it next. There's your O show,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: your eight top stories of the day right here on
• 47:35
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  Speaker 1: Radio ninety three point three kJ R f M.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I tapped into a toad tapping Christmas.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I got a bunch of them are best
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• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Oh great.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: You need a little fun holiday ish music without being
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: too christmas y.
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: You know, some people don't want to hear Christmas music.
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: It's not Christmas anymore.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty good strategy.
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: Thank you, I thank you.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: It's Chuck Powell, It's Ashley Ryan with you. No Bucky
• 48:22
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  Speaker 2: Handmade Vodka. And we got Hugh Millen coming on the show.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: We got Mike Sando filling in for Mike Holmgren today
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: at nine thirty since we didn't get the chants to
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: chat with Mike on Thursday. And we also have a
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: little baseball here that I would like to discuss. I
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: did tune into the show one time while I was
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: taking my two days off, and I heard you both
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: talking about Rob Refsnyder. That's what I heard you talking
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: about Yeah, and I have not had a chance to
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: talk about it. We haven't recorded an episode of Stove
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Anders and I yet regarding this, So I have not
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: had a chance to discuss the signing of Rob Refschneider.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: And it's crazy. I mean, maybe some could track it.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Up to the holiday season and everybody's just filled with mirth.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: But I think this has more to do with Look
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: what happens when you have a season like the Mariners had,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: when Cal Rawley becomes a superstar and you make the
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: playoffs with some wiggle room, and you win the division
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: and you make it all the way to the ALCS.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: How much the fan base's perception changes, and the media
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: as well, about how much more credit they give the
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: organization when the organization seems to be on a hot
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: streak right now. Because I cannot even believe. I'm not
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: saying you're wrong. I can't even believe the love for
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: this Rob Refschneider deal. Yeah, when I've been here ten years,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: you people have never liked signing a platoon player to
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: a free agent contract.
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: Yeh Ever, eh, Ever, if the Mariners would not have
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: signed Josh Naylor already, and this was the first thing
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: they'd done. They wouldn't have if they wouldn't have signed
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: Josh Naylor yet Jorge Polanco was gone and they signed
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: Rob Refsneider, people would be losing there.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: You know what, I.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Don't know, maybe not because they were losing their you
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: know What's anyway, every time anybody ever suggested spending any
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: money on a platoon player, I mean, I got news
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: for you. This is no different than Aj Pollock. Yeah,
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, same age, thirty four years old. And Pollock
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: actually had a better slugging percentage when he came here,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: and Mariner.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Fans hated Aj Pollock. Yeah, that's signing.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: And Mitch Garver hit three p forty four against lefties
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: the year before he came here, had a five hundred
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: on base percent. Oh no, a night ops. So yeah,
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Rob Reschneider has a reputation of crushing left handed pitching
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: and he did it as recently as this season.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: And for me, I get the signing. I don't think
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: there's any way to love the signing, but yeah, I
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: get how that works and that improves things.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: For the for the Mariners this year.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: But it is amazing how a little bit of success
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: and a little bit and an Executive.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Of the Year award.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and some momentum and people being able to see
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: the forest for the trees here in the last three months,
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: with this organization, with this particular front office, and now
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, signing a platoon thirty four year
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: old short side platoon outfielder is suddenly a wonderful thing.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: The Mariner fans and media are celebrating throughout the city.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: It's hilarious.
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: Well, and imagine being in the Mariner's front office.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: They're like, wait a minute, guys, if we would have
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: done this years ago, we could have had this success
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: years ago.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: We would have saved ourselves a lot of grief.
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: We should remember this.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: The move itself, yeah, I get it. I mean I
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: do wonder how it is going to impact others already
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: on the roster, because I am imagining that your right
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: field is ref Schneider and canzone splitting that like just
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: a full fledged platoon. Does that mean Victor Roblaze is
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: on the outside looking in? Does that mean Victor Roblaze
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: moves over to left field and a Rose Arena who's
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: not as good a defender becomes your full time DH
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: since you don't currently have one of those people on
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: the roster at this point. I don't hate that idea.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Is it a combination of all of it? Is it
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: just going to be rotational? Uli Oh plays every day
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: at center field, you know that. But the five of them,
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: because you also have Luke Rayley still in the picture here,
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: And I don't think we should give up on Luke Rayley.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, he had a he had two really good
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: years as a Mariner and then he had a terrible
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: one this past year. It's not like he's thirty five
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: years old. He could bounce back from it. You know,
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: maybe he's a year older. Maybe sleeping through the night.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's what caused Luke Rayley to have a bad
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: year this year. Who knows. But between those five guys, you're,
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: you know, can Zone, Refsnyder, Roeblaze a rose Arena, and
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: Rayley and you're rotating them through the two corner outfields,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: and the DH with a rose arena the only one
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: you're playing every day, whether he's d H or left field,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: whatever the case may be.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: But he plays every day.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: So that that that to me, is the question that
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: comes out of this because there's no question that Rob
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Refsnyder's gonna play against left handers. That's the re that
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: he's here. And I'll say this about him as well.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: He came up as an infielder, became an outfielder. He's
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: kind of muscle bound, and he's pretty athletic.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: He's thirty four years old. He's not the speed guy.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: He was once upon a time, but he is good
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: for like two show stopping, sensational defensive plays every single year.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, and I don't know.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: I haven't watched him enough to know if he consistently
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: plays like a gold Glove caliber outfield, but I'll tell
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: you this, he will make two of the best catches
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: you'll see all season long.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: He does it every damn year of his career. So
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: But then I saw the merits to the Pollock move. Yeah,
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: and I saw the didn't love it. Didn't love the
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Pollock move, didn't love the Garverer move, but I saw
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: the merits to it.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: And that's how I feel about Rev. Snyder.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: I see the merits to this signing, but there's no
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: way to love this signing. I don't think that it.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Changes the entire game for the Sea Mariners.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: It's just a good, cheap, one year signing that should
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: make you a slightly better team in certain situations than
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: what you've been in the past. And I think once
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: you've established yourself as a quality we feel like we
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: are a playoff team and it's about winning the World Series.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: Once you've established that, and I think that's where we are,
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: then little tiny moves like this that are just slight
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: adjustments seem to score better.
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: Ye with even the most frustrated of fan bases when
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: they feel when they do buy into all right, we're
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: moving in the right direction and now all of a
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: sudden something they've tried several times and everyone hated.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Now the reaction is great move, really smart.
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: Wow, these guys are genius, really clever. Wonder Jerry One
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: Executive of the Year.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Pres Nyer is a good player, kills lefties.
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: I totally get why Dan Wilson the top three a
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: Manager of the Year.
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: Guys, they're really really onto something, all right, and I
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: don't and I.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Think that it absolutely takes you out of the running
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: for anybody else outfield wise. I think right now they're
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: going to add another bat. It's going to be a
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: third basement or second base, and maybe somebody.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: That does both. I don't know.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: I think they are still in the market for another bat,
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: one that could play every day. But I think you're
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: down to either third base or second base.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: That's the only mystery that remains all right. Coming up
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: next on the radio program, before we bring Hugh Milling
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: up at nine o'clock, we'll just take a look at
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: that NFL playoff picture as it sort of.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Comes into focus. Sports Radio ninety three point three k
• 56:45
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• 56:45
  Speaker 6: F mnie o'clock hour here on a Football All Friday,
• 57:01
  Speaker 6: Chuck Powell and Ashley Ryan with you is we head
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: into the stretch drive here on this Friday.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Mike Sander will be joining us later on this hour.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: We'll do one.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Last thing to close out the week. Joining us now
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: though the staple of our Friday nine o'clock hour, it
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: is x's and o's with our QB one Hugh Millon.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: Merry Christmas here, Merry Christmas, good to be with you.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: How was it? How did everything go? Did you get
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: a cho choo train? Did you get the everything I wanted? Figured?
• 57:30
  Speaker 11: Adult sons were home from the East Coast, both of them,
• 57:34
  Speaker 11: and and had some friends also, So yeah, it was.
• 57:38
  Speaker 11: It was wonderful. Okay, very good to be.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: At that point. You know, some point, just the presence
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: of your kids is all you need, is that right? Okay?
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I need more than that. I need more than
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: the presence of your kids. You need the presence from
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: your kids.
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: Presents your kids, Yeah.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: I need ones expensive one.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: My point is I need your kids to buy me
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: some presents next year. Okay, we'll work. Yeah, yeah, pass
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: that message along. Was on for that present. Yeah, I
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: wasn't very happy with coming this year, okay, perfect? All right, Well,
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: we could get a scenario where the Seahawks are division
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: champs at the end of this week. I'm rooting for
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: a win in a Rams and forty nine Ers tie.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: That's how I want to get it done. But this
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Carolina team has a lot to play for themselves. I mean,
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: this is pretty much their super Bowl the next couple
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: of weeks. I don't think that they're entertaining any visions
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: of grandeur about being a super Bowl champion this week,
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: but be a nice accomplishment for them here the next
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks. To win the division would show a
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: lot of progress. But it's hard for me to find
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: anything dangerous about this team. What would you highlight about
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Carolina that is something worth chewing on here this morning.
• 58:52
  Speaker 11: I think there what's interesting to me is that over
• 58:55
  Speaker 11: the last nine weeks they've gone win loss, win, loss, win, loss,
• 58:58
  Speaker 11: et cetera, and they've got some of the more impressive
• 59:04
  Speaker 11: wins in the entire NFL season. I can just remember
• 59:08
  Speaker 11: my reaction when they went to Green Bay and beat
• 59:11
  Speaker 11: the Packers when the Packers had acquired Micah Parsons and
• 59:15
  Speaker 11: everybody thought they were rolling. And then they're win at
• 59:19
  Speaker 11: home against the Rams that where they scored thirty one points.
• 59:27
  Speaker 11: That was one of the most shocking wins. So I
• 59:30
  Speaker 11: think that they have I don't know. I don't know
• 59:33
  Speaker 11: if that constitutes a high ceiling for them just to
• 59:35
  Speaker 11: have a couple of impressive games. But I think that
• 59:38
  Speaker 11: there's a environment the Seahawks are going into with the
• 59:42
  Speaker 11: as you suggest that, the idea they think, with all
• 59:45
  Speaker 11: of their recent woes, how many times have they had
• 59:48
  Speaker 11: the number one overall? You know, they traded it, remember
• 59:51
  Speaker 11: they traded it to Chicago, But they've had.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Number one overall back to back and they've just really
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: been down.
• 59:58
  Speaker 11: So I think at that fan base when you think
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 11: of what this remember now what the Seahawks are.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: They're the number one seed in the NFC. So that
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: a number one seed.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 11: Coming into your building when you think you can kind
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 11: of just wash away some of your recent history, I
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 11: think there you're going to get all of the Panthers
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 11: effort and all of that crowds effort, and it's going
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 11: to be potentially a difficult environment.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: It's not been a great year for short quarterbacks this year,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: but Bryce Young has at least, it seems, salvaged his career.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: I mean it was not looking good last season. I
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: mean they benched him last season in the middle of
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: the year and it was looking like a bust at
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: the number one overall selection. But he's played much better
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: this year. Where does Bryce Young give you trouble? If
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: you're Mike McDonald's defense.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 11: Well, he's a twitchy playmaker in the pocket as would
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 11: be needed at that height, right, and I think that
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 11: for the you know, they've just got better people around him.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 11: I think Teed McMillan is a guy that you know,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 11: we had talked about maybe the Seahawks targeting him, that
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 11: big receiver out of Arizona, and he's really come on.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 11: And and so I think that's probably the uh the
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 11: as much of a reason for anything. The tackles are
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 11: playing better. They still have some problems. They're somewhat like Seattle.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 11: Their worst offensive line positions are center and right guard.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 11: But uh but and then you know they've got this
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 11: Rico doubtle that you know, it's kind of emerged, an
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 11: undrafted guy that almost like a folk hero type guy
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 11: in some of his uh he's he's had again high
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 11: ceiling for him. Some of the best games by a
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 11: running back in the NFL, he's had a couple of them.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 11: So so I think that there's some better people around him.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 11: But you know, he's still a guy that does not
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 11: have overwhelming arm strength, and and he will be inclined
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 11: to kind of back up in the face of pressure.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 11: And when he's backing up, where there are some players
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 11: in this league that have the arm talent to still
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 11: generate velocity, you know, from a compromise position. When I
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 11: say compromise, I mean you can't have the kinetic chain,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 11: you know, the weight transfer that you would like. When
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 11: he doesn't get his weight transfer, he doesn't have a
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 11: strong arm, there may be an opportunity to get some
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 11: hands on some balls that that are floating by a
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 11: relative scale with him if you get the right pressure
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 11: in his face.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you really don't see a lot of five foot
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: nine inch pocket quarterbacks.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: In the NFL.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 11: No, No, well they're not going to see. Like, let's
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 11: if we're going to really dissect this issue. And you know,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 11: I've given more thought to it because Russell Wilson was
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 11: the once to see our quarterback.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: But but.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 11: There's going to be times, you know, where you don't
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 11: see how there was a time where I was asking
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 11: all the the quarterbacks I had encountered a new through
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 11: the years, uh, you know Lway Morino, guys I played with,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 11: you know, rich Gannon, other guys, Danny White, you know,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 11: just anytime I saw a quarterback say hey, what a
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 11: time out of one hundred times in the pocket, could.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: You not see what you want to see?
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 11: And and and they're all their answers right around thirty
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 11: to forty percent. And these are big dudes, right, and
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 11: and so if if a guy sixty three sixty four
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 11: can only you know, could couldn't, can't see a third
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 11: of the time that he'd want, well, you know it's
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 11: obviously more than a third of a time for a
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 11: shorter quarterback. So so I don't think that can be debated.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 11: There's times where you can't see what you want to see.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 11: The guys who play well at a shorter height, it's
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 11: what do they do when they can't see well? Often
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 11: the answer to that question is how do they playoff
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 11: script and move around? And do they feel comfortable playing
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 11: late in the down potentially with receivers having broken off
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 11: their routes and now you're playing sandlight ball. Guys who
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 11: have a good intuition to feel they can play at
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 11: that height well.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: And let's say that you are a five nine inch
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: quarterback at one point too. It just was in the
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: third way.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I didn't have any trouble seeing back then when
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 11: I was five to nine.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm seeing over everybody.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Hugh mellon is with us x's and o's brought to
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: you by Frost Brewed Corse Light.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: It just feels like one of those games.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: Just you take care of your business, don't worry about them,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: You play your game, your seattle, and you you come
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: away with this victory, which might be essential in terms
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: of your goals for this season. So where does it
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: Where does it begin with a Seahawks win? What do
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: you want to make sure that you see out of
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: this football team?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 11: So well, you know, I look at Carolina and I'm
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 11: I'm looking at all these stats, you know, the NFL
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 11: stat portable portal, Excuse me, they have scores of these stats,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 11: and I'm just looking at all the rankings, and and
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 11: it's amazing how much the Panthers are clustered in the
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 11: load of mid twenties. You know, points twenty seventh, the
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 11: yards twenty fifth, that's accessible drive score percentage twenty three,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 11: red zone fish and see twenty fifth. You know, here's
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 11: a stat that I think could play a factor Seattle defensively,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 11: third down EPA. That's expected points. We've seen that emerge.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 11: Seattle's number one. Carolina is thirty first, you know, so
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 11: I think there may be some opportunities to extend some
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 11: drives there for the Seahawk offense. I think it's for Seattle.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 11: It's it's as it always is. It's can you can
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 11: the offensive line block? And you know, I don't think
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 11: there's a great second great defensive line. On paper, Seattle
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 11: is clearly the more dominant team. I think they just
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 11: have to handle the most. I think the part of it,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 11: probably the biggest challenge is that they played the Rams
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 11: in the last game. I'm glad they got the three
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 11: or four extra days because emotionally it's hard to fill
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 11: your tank, particularly now they have the knowledge that they
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 11: have the game next week at San Francisco, probably for
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 11: the division. So this, in theory would be a sandwich game.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: And so.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 11: I think that they just mostly have to be ready
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 11: for the environment they're going into, and they're the better team.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 11: They just have to bring their competitiveness.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Well, if you're saying offensive line needs to play, well,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: what did you think of Josh Jones filling in for
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Charles Cross? And what if he has to do that
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: until the playoffs?
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 11: Yeah, reports are leading to that. I think that I
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 11: feel really good. I think back in August I was saying,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 11: this guy, whoever seventy four is?
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: I hadn't done my homework, so who is this?
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 11: Well, okay, we acquired him from the Ravens, but I
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 11: didn't know that until I was after I was watching
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 11: seventy four and ut, this guy looks really good, Like,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 11: this guy looks like the best backup tackle we've had
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 11: in a long long time because at the time you'd say, well,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 11: he's not projected to start right, and of course he wasn't.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 11: But you know, whether it's Stone Forsyth or uh, you know, fan,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 11: I mean, all the guys that we've had that have
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 11: had to fill in at the tackle position during those injuries,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 11: I think Josh Jones has been the best, and he
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 11: kind of showed it the other night. So I feel
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 11: as good as I could could be with a backup
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 11: left tackle.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald does.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: I mean you always hear this, the guy established the
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: run game, But is this the type of game where
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe you don't even need it that if
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Sam plays his game, you should handle the Carolina Panthers.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Well, I think so.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 11: I think that first of all with Donald that I
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 11: think there's a discussion we need to have if you'll
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 11: allow me to wade into shark infested waters. Okay, regarding
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 11: Sam Donald and who are the sharks? You know who
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 11: the sharks are? You and everybody who's listening who's been
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 11: a football fan for a long time, Okay, because you're
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 11: you're probably in trench like everybody, and the idea you
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 11: can't throw interceptions. Now, I said that to get your attention,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 11: because I'm not about here to say you can you
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 11: know that it's fine to throw interceptions, But I think
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 11: that there's a there's a multi layer discussion to be
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 11: had about where Mike McDonald would be with regards to
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 11: Donald and the interceptions, and and it's centered around this.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 11: If you look at everybody says, well, turnover margin is
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 11: the you know, the your number one factor for winning. Well,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 11: actually it's not. You take the I'm gonna just go
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 11: over the last three years and you just go correlation
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 11: is This is real simple. Uh, you don't have to
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 11: have robust Excel skills. You just put all the stats
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 11: in and then you you sort for the the win
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 11: percentage column and and you write a correlation uh formula
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 11: with the correlation function and and and this is what
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 11: you have turnover margin. And think of it when I'm
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 11: about to say, I'm kind of gonna use terms like that.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 11: Sounds like a batting average. Okay, you know three thirty five,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 11: that's a great batting average. Well, three thirty five is
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 11: not a high correlation. So correlation kind of lives in
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 11: that world between zero and one. Well, batting average lives
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 11: in the world between zero one. Because right, because if
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 11: you're too if you're two seventy five hitter, really it's
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 11: expressed with that decimal point two seventy five.
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  Speaker 1: So it's got me.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 11: So if you look at over the last three years
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 11: that the correlation for turnover margin for a football team
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 11: is five to eighty all right, the intersection differential is
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 11: five point fifty five. So whoa, those are big numbers
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 11: because you think of a bad batting average. No, that's
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 11: just moderate correlation. We're going to get into some higher
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 11: correlation when we go passer rating passerrating differential the difference
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 11: between your passer rating on your team versus the opponent.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 11: Now we're up to seven ninety three, and for this
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 11: season it's eight oh four yards per attempt differential seven eighteen. Okay,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 11: yards per play differential six ninety seven.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 11: Here's here's just a side note for for rushing rushing
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 11: yards the UH, rushing yards per play only has a
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 11: two to seventy five correlation, but total rushing yards has
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 11: a six thirty seven. Makes sense, when you're winning, you
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 11: run the ball to assault the game way right. But
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 11: getting back to turnover margin, just interception differential has a
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 11: five point fifty five and passer rating has a seven
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 11: ninety three. Well, you say, doesn't interception percentage? Isn't that
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 11: part of the passer rating? AT's one fourth. If if
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 11: you're gonna have the passer rating differential have such a
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 11: high correlation winning, that means the other three components are
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 11: really really damn important. And those are yards per attempt,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 11: touchdown percentage, and completion percentage and and so and then
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 11: if you go if you go to an individual that
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 11: was with the team, those are differentials.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Then if you go to.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 11: The the NFL quarterbacks, you say, interceptions, well it has a.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: A negative.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 11: Of trying to decide how much I should explain, there's
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 11: negative correlation and positive correlation. So when one goes up
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 11: and the other one goes up. You know, hot days
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 11: go up, ice cream sales go up, that's positive correlation.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 11: Hot days go up, hot chocolate days go down, that's
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 11: negative correlation. Got me, so, But interceptions has an you'd
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 11: expect it to have a negative, but it's only one
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 11: seventy three. This is now for the players. But EPA
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 11: per dropback it has a six forty eight. Adjusted net
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 11: yards per attempt has a six seventy three So Sam
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 11: Darnold is third in the NFL at a statistic that
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 11: has a six to seventy three correlation to winning, and
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 11: he's he's near the bottom in a correlation that's only
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 11: one seventy three. The closer yard of zero is statistically insignificant. Uh,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 11: yards for dropbacks, Sam Donald's number one in the NFL.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 11: Let me repeat that yards for drop back Sam Donald
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 11: is number number one in the NFL, and that that
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 11: stat has a six sixty three correlation to winning. So
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 11: are we gonna Are we gonna neuter a guy's ability
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 11: to generate big plays down the field, so that so
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 11: we're gonna we're gonna diminish a factor that has a
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 11: six sixty three win correlation so that we can improve
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 11: on a statistic that has a one seventy three correlation.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 11: That doesn't make sense, And I don't think it's made
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 11: sense to Mike McDonald. So when you hear Mike McDonald say, hey,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 11: we're just gonna keep letting it, say let a rip,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 11: you know, let a rip.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, We're fine. He's our dude, Like you're.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 11: Your second in this in the NFL and points scored
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 11: and and you're first in the NFL in wins, and
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 11: your quarterback is first in the NFL in yards per dropback.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 11: So we want to sit there and say, oh my god,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 11: let's let's turn over the apple cart and and and
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 11: fix this interception thing. And when you hear Mike McDonald like,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 11: pump the brakes not so fast, that's not my philosophy.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 11: I'm I'm not saying that he that he would recite
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 11: all of this what I've recited with correlations, but I
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 11: bet he has a pretty good grasp either intuitively or
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 11: the numbers he's been shown. Yeah, well, I.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: Know that you are just lumping me in by saying
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: you with like the Sharks being in the media.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 11: I'm me, no, not, no, this is the fans.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: Because because I do need to explain this, because I
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: mean it is a is you know, my show. So
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: I but I have been I have been on the
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: let it Rip. I've been in the let let it
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: Rip club. So I know you know that I'm just
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: the way that it came off, you were putting me
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: in the other category, it sounded.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: Like to the listener.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: So I just want to make sure that people know
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: on the Chuck and Buck Show that I've been in
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: the let it Rip club, because I will live with
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: an interception per game if it means I get all
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: of that other excellent quarterback playof've gotten from Sam Donald
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: this year.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 11: I will vouch for that. You've absolutely been in that camp.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 11: So that that was me poorly laying that out. What
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 11: I meant is the shark confessed waters. I was throwing
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 11: myself in. I was throwing all the listeners that when
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 11: when I the onset of this portion of the conversation,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 11: when I'm I'm gonna go in, I'm gonna basically, I'm
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 11: thinking to myself, I'm gonna I'm gonna get on the
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 11: radio and I'm gonna gonna tell a lot of people
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 11: who know a lot about football and have been watching
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 11: football for years and decades. I'm gonna get on and
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 11: I'm gonna tell them, hey, don't worry about Sam Donald's interception.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: Is that it?
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 11: And I was like, WHOA, that sounds like swimming in
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 11: shark infested waters. And guess who's in the Who's one
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 11: of the sarks?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: Myself?
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 11: Because I'm a fan, Like like to me, when I
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 11: look at these numbers, I I I said, WHOA. You
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 11: know I've been told my whole life. You know, Uh,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 11: interceptions don't do it right, and and so any of it. No,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 11: you're right, you have been saying that. But I so
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 11: let's let's all. The conclusion that I'm trying to say
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 11: is that that, yes, we want to limit those interceptions,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 11: but it's a very very delicate process. And and and
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 11: you cannot throw the hammer down on Sam donald and
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 11: say stop the effing interceptions above all else, stop the
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 11: effing interceptions, because guess what, he can and he would
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 11: and Mike McDonald doesn't want that. And I don't think you,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 11: as a Seattle Seahawk fan, want that, right because you're
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 11: you're the unwanted consequences are there, and it's it's it's
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 11: it's baked into football, and it's a very tough thing
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 11: to be an NFL quarterback and be in a pocket
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 11: and you're in micro hundreds of a second, you're sitting
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 11: there thinking to yourself, this is this past gonna work?
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 11: When I hit JSN and he comes in between the
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 11: second basement and the third basement, those are the hook
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 11: defenders in his zone defense under when he went goes
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 11: into that window, am I gonna have a shot?
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: And if you sit there and go, I gotta see it.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: I got to see it before I really want to
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: turn it loose. I got to see it. I got
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: to see it. I gotta see it's got to be
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: wide open.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 11: If you're playing with any kind of paralysis like that,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 11: you will never hit that window, right, You'll never hit
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 11: that window. So it is a very delicate process when
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 11: we're talking about dialing down a quarterback's interceptions. Who has
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 11: been this robust at producing big plays and points and
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 11: all the rest and wins. Yeah, the guys the winningness,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 11: The guy's the winningness quarterback in the NFL over this
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 11: year is tied for first. Over the last two years,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 11: he's number one, and over the last four years, folks,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 11: since twenty twenty two, Am Darnold has the highest win
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 11: percentage in the NFL. And of those five and you know,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 11: Pat Mahomes and Josh Allen are right behind him. But
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 11: if the guys in the top five, he's the only
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 11: one who has a triple digit passer rating, Like like,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 11: let's let's please pump the brakes on, you know, just
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 11: crapping on the guy because we all want him to
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 11: throw fewer interceptions.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: Anyways, I think I've made my point. Yeah, you all.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, ideally you want your quarterback to be Tom Brady.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: But if I have my second choice, I'm probably going
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: Brett Farv. And I'm not saying he's either one of
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: those guys, but but but far through a lot of interceptions, but.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: He also made so many big plays. You live a little.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: Bit with with the mistakes because of how much you've
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: gained from the way he plays.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: You've been preaching that. Yeah, yes, I will vouch for that. Yeah.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: So in other words, we want four touchdown passes and
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: one interception from saying every.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Sunday if I told you that, would you take it?
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: I would take that. Yeah, let me have I don't
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: even know. I'll even throw in a fumbled snap.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, whatever he's been doing has been working.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. All right, Uh, sag with you, sir. We'll
• 1:18:13
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  Speaker 1: of the of the Athletic. How are you, sir?
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  Speaker 14: I'm pretty good. This is definitely a week where I
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 14: have no idea what day it was. I was like,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 14: shooting day, agree to do something today. I thought it
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 14: was Monday, you know, I'm like, oh, no, it's Friday.
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  Speaker 1: So it is definitely just good.
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  Speaker 2: It's the most mondayest feeling on a Friday I've ever
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: had in my entire life.
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  Speaker 14: That's good, though, because you get a weekend coming.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a really hard, grueling week of day of work.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: So now now I get ready for to relax this weekend. Well,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: did you have a good holiday?
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 14: Absolutely good? Yep, A lot to be grateful for and absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well excellent, And now you got a bunch of
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: football to watch tomorrow and then the Sunday.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: Let's start with the local club. What do you think?
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, Carolina Panthers. How weird are they this year?
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: But they've got more incentive, I suppose than what even
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks do on Sunday. They actually walk off the
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: field as division champs. The Seahawks can't do.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: That on Sunday.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: What is it about them that they've found ways to
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: be in this thing?
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 14: So they're ranked like twenty third twenty fourth on each
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 14: side of the ball, so that you know they have
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 14: a better record than their performance would indicate. I think
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 14: what they've done is, you know, before they they were
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 14: just kind of incompetent and they just could get rolled.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 14: I think they've been more competitive. I think that their
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 14: offense on its best day can get some things going. Now,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 14: I still don't think they're a very good team. I
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 14: think it's an interesting matchup a little bit because Dave
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 14: Canalis as their head coach, he spent a lot of
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 14: time in Seattle, and he's not going up against Pete Carroll,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 14: his mentor, but he's still going up against Seattle. Dan
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 14: Morgan as their general manager, you know, longtime Seattle for
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 14: an office guys, so they're gonna I'm sure they've been
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 14: paying attention watching the Seahawks a little bit more than
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 14: they watched other teams outside their division. There's been some
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 14: talk that, hey, they don't really have to win this game.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 14: The big game next week for them is against Tampa
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 14: that's going to decide the division.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 14: I think they probably still need to play it and
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 14: you know, try to string together as many good games
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 14: as they can. But I think Seattle's defense should be
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 14: way too much for them, and they have a little quarterback,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 14: you know, just to me, it just feels like this
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 14: should be should be if Seattle's got that great defense,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 14: a little bit of a bully game for them.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: It's not been a good year for little quarterbacks. Bryce
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: Young has had the best year of them.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: And he's and I'll give him credit, I mean, because
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: it looked like he was heading toward Bustville last year,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: but he's bounced back, and boy, his teammates seemed to
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: love him there in Carolina.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 14: Well, that's one of the interesting things that I heard
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 14: behind behind the scenes there last year was you know,
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 14: he got benched only two games into Dave Canals' tenure
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 14: last year and looked like he was about done. But
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 14: for whatever reason, I heard that he kind of became
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 14: a different guy from a leadership standpoint, from an accountability standpoint.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 14: After that, he kind of snapped into maybe his best self.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 14: I still think he's limited, and I think there's thirty
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 14: one teams that would love to see the Panthers sign
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 14: him to a big two A type contract, right, So
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 14: I think that still will be interesting to see what
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 14: do they do now, because typically when you draft a
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 14: guy that high first from the draft and he's quote
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 14: unquote successful, like they get paid a lot. But he's
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 14: not that guy, right, He's not the top guy. So
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 14: I think that'll be fascinating to see how they handle that.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 14: I think he's he's a nice story. I don't think
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 14: anyone's afraid to play him.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what I feel.
• 1:22:40
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• 1:22:43
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• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: Yesterday's the results a couple of interesting things. I mean, well,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: I just did not see the Detroit Lions. I mean
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: I didn't buy the They've lost both coordinators they're in
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: trouble and yet to be eight and eight and out
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: of the playoffs entirely. What kind of offseason do you
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: expect Detroit to have? What kind of look in the
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: mirror kind of moment do you expect from them?
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 14: We're going to find out how arrogant they are?
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 14: I think this is they've shown a lot of confidence
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 14: and they've done a really good job. But I've always sensed,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 14: you know, Brad Holmes has kind of gotten he's air GM.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 14: You came from the Rams, and he's a all everything
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 14: I've heard, a great guy, but he's kind of had
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 14: this attitude of like rushing off criticism and questions because
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 14: they've gotten the last laugh to this point, Right, So,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 14: how honest do you have to be with where you
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 14: are when you have this type of a season.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: And I'm not sure.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 14: Because it's not like they went they won four games,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 14: It's not like Jared Goff had a terrible year. Shoot
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 14: his stats look great. Yeah, So this is one of
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 14: those tester years where I feel like, do they show
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 14: some arrogance And it may not just be arrogance, that
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 14: may be hey, stay the course, right, don't panic if
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 14: it works out, But clearly they need an offensive coordinator.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 14: I think their offensive line must be addressed because as
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 14: we've seen firsthand when Jared Goff was in the division
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 14: here playing for the Rams, there's almost no one who
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 14: can look as good or as bad depending what his
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 14: protection is. Wouldn't you agree?
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 14: Yeah, whether like, this guy needs to be in a
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 14: temperature controlled office with you know, you know, with his
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 14: favorite brand of water and a bowl of his favorite
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 14: kind of Eminem's there, and there needs to be no noises.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 14: And when he does that, he's like the most he's
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 14: as efficient a worker as as mahomes. But when you
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 14: start making him play in the mud or his his
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  Speaker 14: protection isn't there, he can suddenly look very different. And
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  Speaker 14: so I think they have to make sure the line
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  Speaker 14: is where it starts, because that remember when the Rams
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  Speaker 14: got rid of him, it was after their best line
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  Speaker 14: kind of atrophied. Remember they had that great line Andrew
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  Speaker 14: Whitworth all those guys, and then it kind of went
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  Speaker 14: away and they're like, oh, what's wrong with GoF It's
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  Speaker 14: not the same. I think they got to do that
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  Speaker 14: first and foremost it's their whole identity through Dan Campbell
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  Speaker 14: controlling land of scrimmage. They've lost their center for years
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  Speaker 14: and Frank ragnow you know they may have a tackle issue.
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  Speaker 14: They've drafted a couple of young guards that may or
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  Speaker 14: may not be the guy fix it, Brad Holmes, Dan Campbell,
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  Speaker 14: and then you may have a better year next year.
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  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald, Liam Cohen or somebody else for Coach of
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  Speaker 1: the Year.
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  Speaker 14: I think it's hard to go against Mike Rabel. I
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  Speaker 14: think I need right about this a little bit. Well,
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  Speaker 14: if you go into the year of what everybody thought
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  Speaker 14: of the teams were, you know, you would have said
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  Speaker 14: Newellan could have been a bottom three team in their division.
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  Speaker 14: And so the things I like about what he's done is, Okay,
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  Speaker 14: getting the absolute best out of this quarterback. And he's
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  Speaker 14: not an offensive coach Forrabel, but he's got Josh McDaniels there.
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  Speaker 14: That's a great guy to have running your offense. And
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  Speaker 14: then things like this Stefan Diggs difficult guy to deal with.
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  Speaker 14: He's having a great year, like he's coaching that team
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  Speaker 14: to play well together to get it. I think he's
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  Speaker 14: got good leaders and I think Drake may is a
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  Speaker 14: good young leader. Like they've got something going there to
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  Speaker 14: where I think they have as good a chance as
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  Speaker 14: anyone to make a deep run in the AFC.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, a lot of good candidates for it to
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  Speaker 2: including Canalis in Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, man, Well, every every day there's football on.
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  Speaker 14: Oh, every day that I do is well said yeah,
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  Speaker 14: Well said yeah, I should just shut up.
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  Speaker 1: He said it so well, and I tried to correct you.
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  Speaker 3: Thank joy.
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  Speaker 1: Well, talk to you next week. All right, love you guys.
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