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- 0:19Speaker 4: Here's Nick Eatman, Hello and welcome to Cowboys Storyline presented
- 0:30Speaker 4: by Gillette. Wednesday, June seventeenth, The final show before training camp.
- 0:34Speaker 4: We are wrapping this thing up this week and summ
- 0:37Speaker 4: into next week. But this will be our last show
- 0:39Speaker 4: before training camp goes. So let's make it a good one,
- 0:42Speaker 4: all right, eight eight eight eight five five two two
- 0:45Speaker 4: nine seven. You can talk to us. Let's talk about
- 0:47Speaker 4: Cowboys Mini camp. And yes, George Preakins showed up. That
- 0:52Speaker 4: was the question. He showed up, He answered it. And
- 0:55Speaker 4: now the next question is how how is he going
- 0:58Speaker 4: to perform on this tag? Is he going to play
- 1:01Speaker 4: on the tag? Is he going to go to training camp?
- 1:03Speaker 4: He's gonna hold out, He's gonna have a hold in.
- 1:06Speaker 4: He did a pretty good job of answering that. I
- 1:09Speaker 4: think if you got a chance to to watch that
- 1:12Speaker 4: video yesterday of his press conference with the media, was
- 1:17Speaker 4: was pretty good. I thought he you know, he's obviously
- 1:20Speaker 4: been coached up with his advisors. But they did a
- 1:24Speaker 4: good job, and he did a good job. You know,
- 1:26Speaker 4: he said the right things and which I think the
- 1:29Speaker 4: Cowboys would want to hear and the fans would want
- 1:31Speaker 4: to hear. So, you know, so far, so good on
- 1:33Speaker 4: that he's here when he's supposed to be here, and
- 1:37Speaker 4: you know, you can't really fault him for anything else.
- 1:40Speaker 4: If they want to make it, you know, mandatory, make
- 1:42Speaker 4: it mandatory. And that's just the way that that it's
- 1:44Speaker 4: always been. And you know, he's playing the game. They're
- 1:47Speaker 4: playing the game. Doesn't sound like Cowboy's really playing it
- 1:50Speaker 4: that they've said, hey, you're going to play on the
- 1:52Speaker 4: tag this year and and and that's we're not going
- 1:54Speaker 4: to negotiate. So I don't know who's got leverage here
- 1:58Speaker 4: or there, but it's going to be a situation where
- 2:01Speaker 4: I think, I think it's going to be good for
- 2:03Speaker 4: the cop was good for pickings, and well, we'll see
- 2:05Speaker 4: what happens. But so far, so good as far as
- 2:08Speaker 4: the mini camp goes. And he didn't do a lot
- 2:11Speaker 4: in the team period. That was by design. That's not
- 2:15Speaker 4: part of the holdout, that's just part of them ramping
- 2:18Speaker 4: up to getting him ready to roll all right, eight
- 2:22Speaker 4: a A eight five five two two nine seven. We
- 2:24Speaker 4: already have two callers on the line, so let's get
- 2:26Speaker 4: to it. Brian in Kansas City, what's up?
- 2:28Speaker 5: Good morning, Nick?
- 2:30Speaker 4: What's up?
- 2:31Speaker 5: Hey? Before I ask any questions, I just want to
- 2:35Speaker 5: wish our friend Kyle Yeomans the very best and his
- 2:40Speaker 5: whatever his new endeavors are, and thank him for all
- 2:43Speaker 5: the content and work he's put in over the last
- 2:46Speaker 5: seven years. It's been fantastic. And hope he does I'm
- 2:51Speaker 5: sure he's gonna do fantastic and whatever he does next.
- 2:54Speaker 4: All right, all right, that's cool. He's got a show
- 2:58Speaker 4: for that, So I think I guess they are not
- 3:00Speaker 4: doing any more shows this uh, I guess they they're
- 3:04Speaker 4: done with their talking cowboys, so he won't get to
- 3:06Speaker 4: do that again. But all right, I'll pass it on
- 3:10Speaker 4: Brud to that.
- 3:12Speaker 5: So, you know, I was thinking about this year, you know,
- 3:16Speaker 5: looking at at the outcomes we had last year, both
- 3:19Speaker 5: on offense, special teams and defense, and and just seeing,
- 3:22Speaker 5: you know, what we have on talent wise, and we
- 3:25Speaker 5: think and and I'm I'm in that boat. I think
- 3:28Speaker 5: we've upgraded our defensive talent, right, I think we've done
- 3:32Speaker 5: a good job at at you know, getting people. I
- 3:36Speaker 5: thought we did okay last year too, I was wrong,
- 3:38Speaker 5: but but you know, this year, I think there's a
- 3:41Speaker 5: big difference.
- 3:42Speaker 1: Right.
- 3:43Speaker 5: So on offense, I would say you have Dak and
- 3:47Speaker 5: Pickens and c d and and uh uh. I always
- 3:53Speaker 5: say the wrong name Tyler Smith. Always start to say Tyron, Yeah,
- 3:59Speaker 5: Tyler Smith. Those guys every time they lace them up,
- 4:02Speaker 5: they're competing to be in All Pro. And I would
- 4:06Speaker 5: say on special teams, Turpin has that ability, He's proven it,
- 4:10Speaker 5: and Aubrey has that ability. On defense, I think there's
- 4:15Speaker 5: only one that's proven it and that's max Q. Right,
- 4:20Speaker 5: Big number ninety two has proven that he can be
- 4:22Speaker 5: an All Pro because he has been. Is there anybody
- 4:26Speaker 5: else on our defense in your opinion that you think, hey,
- 4:31Speaker 5: if this year goes well, that's the ceiling for that person.
- 4:36Speaker 5: And I give you mine. I think if he's healthy,
- 4:40Speaker 5: I think Demo can play the role that Zach Bond
- 4:44Speaker 5: did for the Eagles. I think that's the possibility if
- 4:47Speaker 5: he's healthy. So that would be my guy that I
- 4:50Speaker 5: think that's the ceiling for him. And I'll hang up
- 4:53Speaker 5: and listen to your answer. Man, enjoy your time off man.
- 4:56Speaker 4: Thanks Nick, all right, thank you. If who could be
- 5:01Speaker 4: an All Pro if they hit their ceiling, well, yeah,
- 5:06Speaker 4: I mean I think everybody thinks that they could be
- 5:10Speaker 4: that guy. You know that they think they have that
- 5:13Speaker 4: in them. You know, part of being All Pro and
- 5:18Speaker 4: Pro Bowl is the recognition, So you know, I would
- 5:22Speaker 4: I would think that Caleb downs is it's probably you know,
- 5:26Speaker 4: he's going to have to do some things early on,
- 5:29Speaker 4: but you know he's he's that's the expectations and so
- 5:32Speaker 4: if he can get closer to that already, he'll have
- 5:35Speaker 4: the name recognition and all that, so he's he's got
- 5:38Speaker 4: a shot over shown. Yeah, I mean, he's going to
- 5:41Speaker 4: have to do it at the at the big moments too.
- 5:43Speaker 4: And that's the good thing about this team and the
- 5:45Speaker 4: schedule is that you get those opportunities to to have
- 5:48Speaker 4: those nationally televised games and primetime games and things like that.
- 5:53Speaker 4: And you know, we've seen players do that, make make
- 5:57Speaker 4: big plays, big moments on things giving or on Monday
- 6:01Speaker 4: Night football, Sunday Night football at the right time, and
- 6:04Speaker 4: it can kind of propel you to to make Pro
- 6:07Speaker 4: Bowls and All Pros and things like that. So you're
- 6:08Speaker 4: gonna have to do it at the right time, ask
- 6:10Speaker 4: for who. It's hard to say. Don't really want to
- 6:15Speaker 4: put that out there on these guys. You know, we've
- 6:19Speaker 4: seen it with Bland, you know, but Bland was scoring
- 6:22Speaker 4: touchdowns too, I mean that that was he was setting
- 6:25Speaker 4: records doing that. I think down's Bland overshown. Maybe it's
- 6:30Speaker 4: gonna have to take some some dynamic plays and then
- 6:32Speaker 4: you know, somebody gets hot on the other side with
- 6:34Speaker 4: a lot of sacks, whether it be Gary, whether it
- 6:37Speaker 4: be as Aaku, who knows who who that is. But
- 6:40Speaker 4: you know, socks can can come in bunches, and if
- 6:43Speaker 4: that could happen, just like turnovers and pick sixes can
- 6:46Speaker 4: come in bunches. So it's just gonna have to be
- 6:49Speaker 4: those dynamic type plays and a few of them we've seen,
- 6:52Speaker 4: like with Trayvon Diggs and he just kept getting interceptions
- 6:55Speaker 4: and Bland just kept getting interceptions. So you know, I
- 6:59Speaker 4: anybody can do that if they if if you know,
- 7:02Speaker 4: if it hits just right. So but I you know,
- 7:07Speaker 4: I think as a Rocky could be that guy too,
- 7:10Speaker 4: you know, and we'll see how he does this this year.
- 7:13Speaker 4: He looks a little bigger he looks like he's ready
- 7:15Speaker 4: to kind of take it to the next level, so
- 7:17Speaker 4: that that would be awesome step if if he could,
- 7:20Speaker 4: he could definitely do that. All right, let's go to
- 7:22Speaker 4: Irene and falls Church. Irene. What's up?
- 7:24Speaker 6: Hey?
- 7:25Speaker 7: Good morning?
- 7:25Speaker 8: How are you good?
- 7:26Speaker 4: How are you good?
- 7:28Speaker 8: Hey?
- 7:28Speaker 9: Next time we talk it will be an Oxnard at
- 7:32Speaker 9: least with voices, So that would be we got a
- 7:35Speaker 9: cool group come in, a few of us from last year,
- 7:37Speaker 9: and then some even an ambassador might be showing up.
- 7:40Speaker 9: So nice, Yeah, very very nice. So I wanted to
- 7:43Speaker 9: talk about I got training camp and then also mini camps.
- 7:46Speaker 9: So last season when we were there, we we noticed,
- 7:51Speaker 9: I mean I think I mentioned on the on the
- 7:54Speaker 9: show that we had that it was very obvious that
- 7:57Speaker 9: George Pickens was trusted by Dak right, so I'm on
- 8:02Speaker 9: the opposite side. We were like, oh man, the Rams
- 8:05Speaker 9: are picking us apart on defense, but we don't have Micah.
- 8:07Speaker 9: We don't have Micah, so you can't see everything at
- 8:11Speaker 9: training camp. But there definitely were signs of what the
- 8:14Speaker 9: season was going to be, and of course we thought
- 8:16Speaker 9: Mike could be back. Didn't happen. They didn't manufacture pressure.
- 8:19Speaker 3: The rest of history.
- 8:20Speaker 9: But so we'll get a good idea there. I was
- 8:23Speaker 9: wondering though, with mini camp, what do you focus on
- 8:27Speaker 9: personally or what do other people really focus on? Is
- 8:30Speaker 9: it how they try different lineups or I'll take that
- 8:33Speaker 9: off air, but yeah, that's kind of my question about
- 8:35Speaker 9: what mini camp is about.
- 8:36Speaker 4: Thanks good all right, Thanks Ireen. Looking forward to seeing
- 8:40Speaker 4: you guys at camp this year and that's always always
- 8:44Speaker 4: a good time and see what the what the setup
- 8:48Speaker 4: looks like, and as far as camp goes, and what
- 8:52Speaker 4: time our show will be and all that, we're still
- 8:54Speaker 4: gonna I have a feeling we're going to have some
- 8:57Speaker 4: some changes at training camp as far as shows go,
- 8:59Speaker 4: so nothing's kind of guaranteed as far as like my
- 9:04Speaker 4: show goes. I mean, I think it's going to be
- 9:06Speaker 4: about the same. We'll see how Chris gets the phone
- 9:09Speaker 4: line working or phone lines is it two lines? Maybe
- 9:12Speaker 4: just one line? But out there, but it should be
- 9:16Speaker 4: it should be fun again and see what kind of
- 9:18Speaker 4: setup we've got. But looking forward to having you guys
- 9:21Speaker 4: out there for a couple of days. Looks like you
- 9:23Speaker 4: picked the right days too to be out there.
- 9:25Speaker 1: Now.
- 9:26Speaker 4: Ask your question on what to look for here. You know,
- 9:32Speaker 4: it's I think it's it's always the same as far
- 9:38Speaker 4: as as you evaluate what you can evaluate, you know.
- 9:42Speaker 4: And so if you really want to go into a
- 9:44Speaker 4: mini camp with no pads on and say I want
- 9:47Speaker 4: to see these defensive tackles and see how strong they
- 9:49Speaker 4: are and how how they're stopping the run, it's like, well,
- 9:52Speaker 4: there's really no run and there's really no stopping anybody,
- 9:55Speaker 4: and there's really no blocking and there's no tackling. So
- 9:58Speaker 4: you really can't get that that sense, now what. So
- 10:01Speaker 4: it always goes back to the things that you can see.
- 10:04Speaker 4: Is that quarterback throwing the ball, well, does the receiver
- 10:07Speaker 4: catch it? Is he wide open or is he kind
- 10:09Speaker 4: of open? Or was the defensive back there? And did
- 10:12Speaker 4: he make a play on the ball? And is the
- 10:14Speaker 4: guy rushing off the edge he's getting his hands up
- 10:17Speaker 4: there and knocking down passes and making things. So it's
- 10:19Speaker 4: it's just playing and simple to evaluating what you can evaluate,
- 10:24Speaker 4: and it's usually comes down to the skill players. And
- 10:27Speaker 4: so you know, you don't ever look at defense. Who's
- 10:31Speaker 4: doing what? Who won the day? Things like that. I
- 10:34Speaker 4: remember the OTAs last week. I remember people saying, wow,
- 10:38Speaker 4: defense had a great day. Those defensive backs looked really good,
- 10:41Speaker 4: and I was like, well, I you know, yeah, if
- 10:44Speaker 4: you're gonna go off against Turpin and Flinoy and and
- 10:47Speaker 4: Valdez Scantling, you're probably gonna win. You should. But CD
- 10:52Speaker 4: and Pickings aren't here, so that's a big part of
- 10:54Speaker 4: the team, so, you know, and they were they were back,
- 10:58Speaker 4: or at least CD was back yesterday today as far
- 11:00Speaker 4: as the team goes, and I'm sure you know, offense
- 11:04Speaker 4: looked looked pretty good there too. So it really just
- 11:07Speaker 4: comes down to valuing what you can and let's don't
- 11:09Speaker 4: get too crazy about it, you know, taking attendance, who's here,
- 11:11Speaker 4: who's not here, who's practicing, who's who's who looks pretty
- 11:14Speaker 4: good returning from injury. You know, it's really not rocket
- 11:18Speaker 4: science there, It's it's just the thing you evaluate what
- 11:21Speaker 4: you can evaluate, all right. Dylan in Northport, Florida, Dylan,
- 11:24Speaker 4: what's up?
- 11:25Speaker 6: Hey?
- 11:25Speaker 3: How you doing good?
- 11:26Speaker 4: Do you?
- 11:27Speaker 10: Hey?
- 11:28Speaker 3: I'm good?
- 11:28Speaker 11: So does this marks the end of the twenty twenty
- 11:32Speaker 11: five storyline season?
- 11:34Speaker 12: Yes?
- 11:34Speaker 8: The Breakers?
- 11:34Speaker 4: Yes? Well no, no, no, no, Actually, you know it's
- 11:37Speaker 4: funny you say that. I was thinking about that going it.
- 11:41Speaker 4: I should do it that way. But I don't. I don't.
- 11:44Speaker 4: I actually like turn it over whenever we do the
- 11:47Speaker 4: all storyline team is really when I turn it over.
- 11:51Speaker 4: And I was thinking about that, like, I probably shouldn't.
- 11:54Speaker 4: I probably should just take it all the way to
- 11:56Speaker 4: the end of this year, announce the team today, and
- 12:00Speaker 4: then send it off and then we started the next
- 12:02Speaker 4: That's what I should do, especially if people are going
- 12:05Speaker 4: to get upset about it, I should just say boom,
- 12:07Speaker 4: like sorry, drop it good, We'll see you in August
- 12:12Speaker 4: or July or whatever that is. But yeah, it really
- 12:15Speaker 4: I kind of flip it and I started like in
- 12:19Speaker 4: April or March whenever, like the league year kind of
- 12:23Speaker 4: turnover is. That's typically what I've done.
- 12:26Speaker 13: So well.
- 12:27Speaker 11: Another good season, man. I love the show, favorite show obviously,
- 12:30Speaker 11: and I'm glad to be be part of it. I
- 12:34Speaker 11: was doing some math this morning, just real quick on
- 12:36Speaker 11: George Pickens, and I just want to touch on kind
- 12:37Speaker 11: of the excitement for heading into next season.
- 12:40Speaker 4: Hold on, I just want to write this down real
- 12:42Speaker 4: quick and see if anyone else says the same thing.
- 12:44Speaker 4: I just want to make sure that anyone else says, hey,
- 12:46Speaker 4: I was doing some math this morning. Just didn't want
- 12:49Speaker 4: to see if that's a common phrase, especially on June seventeenth,
- 12:53Speaker 4: or if it's not.
- 12:53Speaker 9: You know what I mean.
- 12:54Speaker 11: You know, I'm kind of a football nerd, and I
- 12:56Speaker 11: try to find interesting things to dig into. A I'm
- 12:59Speaker 11: a why guy and a Howe guy and not really
- 13:01Speaker 11: a results guy, so I get in a nady, gritty
- 13:03Speaker 11: So I just wanted this morning, how does if George
- 13:06Speaker 11: Pickens gets franchise tag and obviously this year he did,
- 13:08Speaker 11: and then next year again if he plays in the tag,
- 13:10Speaker 11: how much like in pocket cash does that mean for
- 13:13Speaker 11: him compared to other top end receivers. And after looking
- 13:17Speaker 11: at like the actual take home cash and pocket that
- 13:21Speaker 11: would make him the third highest paid receiver over two
- 13:23Speaker 11: years in the NFL actual cash and pocket So I
- 13:28Speaker 11: know NFL players crave the you know, the long contracts
- 13:32Speaker 11: and the guarantees money and all that so that they
- 13:34Speaker 11: can kind of lock themselves in place and be comfortable.
- 13:36Speaker 11: But from a money standpoint, if he were to get
- 13:39Speaker 11: tagged again next year, it's not necessarily the worst thing
- 13:42Speaker 11: in the world for him because that will have made
- 13:43Speaker 11: him one of the league's top highest paired for top
- 13:45Speaker 11: highest paid players over the course of the.
- 13:47Speaker 3: Last two years.
- 13:48Speaker 11: So just kind of food for thought.
- 13:49Speaker 3: I suppose on that what is that figure.
- 13:53Speaker 11: Gets fifty eight point eight million, and that's estimated because
- 13:56Speaker 11: we don't know what it's going to be the tag
- 13:59Speaker 11: for next year, the rough estimate from what you know
- 14:02Speaker 11: the websites are saying online with the second year in
- 14:05Speaker 11: a row tag and the increase in revenue and all that,
- 14:09Speaker 11: the two highos would be Jackson Smith and Jake Bunjemar Chase.
- 14:11Speaker 11: That's sixty nine and sixty three million, and then justin
- 14:14Speaker 11: Jefferson would be just below picking to fifty five million,
- 14:17Speaker 11: taking to that fifty eight over that that course. So
- 14:19Speaker 11: and that's higher than CD Drake London, just got it.
- 14:22Speaker 11: It's higher than Drake London. So, I mean, it's not
- 14:24Speaker 11: the worst thing in the world. I know, it's not
- 14:26Speaker 11: necessarily what the player wants, but I mean it's a
- 14:27Speaker 11: pretty pretty good sized bag when you compare with his
- 14:30Speaker 11: colleague across the league.
- 14:31Speaker 14: Sure.
- 14:31Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'm guessing that that that the projected tag
- 14:36Speaker 4: for the second year for him would be around thirty
- 14:39Speaker 4: thirty one something like that, but.
- 14:40Speaker 11: Thirty one something I think it was.
- 14:42Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Well, I mean, I think about the interview
- 14:46Speaker 4: he did yesterday, and you know, it seems pretty cordial
- 14:50Speaker 4: and understanding the business side of it and both sides
- 14:52Speaker 4: of what he's got to do and prove and all that.
- 14:55Speaker 4: And I have a hard time thinking that it's going
- 14:57Speaker 4: to be the same way when you tag a guy
- 14:59Speaker 4: the second time. Yeah, you know, so money wise, that
- 15:02Speaker 4: sounds good, but for them to make the decision like
- 15:05Speaker 4: we're just tagging you again, like what does that look like?
- 15:09Speaker 1: With that?
- 15:10Speaker 4: That means he did enough to show man, this guy
- 15:13Speaker 4: can be really good, but he's obviously not doing as
- 15:17Speaker 4: much to say I want to hand over the bag,
- 15:20Speaker 4: like you said. So that that just sets up for
- 15:24Speaker 4: another interesting off season and season to say, if you
- 15:29Speaker 4: tag a guy again, what he showed and what he
- 15:33Speaker 4: didn't show at the same time kind of mixed together.
- 15:37Speaker 4: Be interesting.
- 15:39Speaker 11: Yeah, And it also kind of starts to conflict with
- 15:41Speaker 11: all the contracts that are coming up as well. Right
- 15:44Speaker 11: ced he is going to be due here again. At
- 15:45Speaker 11: some point we're gonna start talking about Dak again. So
- 15:48Speaker 11: you tag him and now you're kind of running over
- 15:50Speaker 11: into other lanes, And how does that affect those negotiations?
- 15:53Speaker 11: It's one less tool to use, so I totally get that,
- 15:56Speaker 11: and there's also other circumstances surrounding that as well. You know,
- 15:59Speaker 11: what did he do off the field this year was
- 16:01Speaker 11: you know, I know there were some fines behind the
- 16:02Speaker 11: scenes and stuff for late meetings and all that in
- 16:06Speaker 11: addition to you know, to what it was on the field.
- 16:08Speaker 11: So it just depends. And I think they were smart
- 16:10Speaker 11: by doing what they did with the tag where they
- 16:11Speaker 11: could go explore their options this year, get valuations, and
- 16:14Speaker 11: then come back to the team and maybe that's something
- 16:16Speaker 11: to do again next year, see if there's a market.
- 16:17Speaker 11: But that's all I guess. The future problem is kind
- 16:19Speaker 11: of something interesting that I was thinking about this morning. Yeah,
- 16:24Speaker 11: as far as I'll go real quick on this next
- 16:26Speaker 11: one here, just my excitement for this team. It's really
- 16:29Speaker 11: built around the continuity on offense and what we can
- 16:32Speaker 11: expect on defense. Offense, you got Ryan Flinoy developing, the
- 16:36Speaker 11: running backs developing. Other than that really all continuous from
- 16:40Speaker 11: that standpoint. The concern is the tackle play. Hopefully that's
- 16:44Speaker 11: that's better this year and Guidance can stay healthy and develop.
- 16:46Speaker 11: If so, that'll be really big for this offense. But
- 16:49Speaker 11: not too worried about the offense. But the defense, You've
- 16:51Speaker 11: got like eight or nine new expected starters that weren't
- 16:54Speaker 11: around in training camp last year. And that's like your
- 16:57Speaker 11: I know, Kenny Clark got here like five days before
- 16:58Speaker 11: the season, but that conclusion can Clark, Quinn and Williams,
- 17:01Speaker 11: obviously the rookie Caleb Downs and you're talking Kobe Durant.
- 17:05Speaker 11: So that were all these guys that weren't here last year.
- 17:07Speaker 11: Like you're gonna see guys week one that you're like, huh,
- 17:09Speaker 11: that's the name. I totally forgot that even brought in
- 17:12Speaker 11: or you know, it's the guy who wasn't around. It
- 17:14Speaker 11: was gonna make a big difference, whatever it might be.
- 17:16Speaker 11: It's just an entirely, entirely new defense. Even the guys
- 17:19Speaker 11: that were here, like the Blands and those guys, the Dmos,
- 17:21Speaker 11: those guys are all going to be healthy hopefully heading
- 17:24Speaker 11: into the season. And I'm excited, man. There's a lot
- 17:27Speaker 11: of reasons to be excited about this team heading into
- 17:29Speaker 11: this the season. It's not gonna be perfect out of
- 17:31Speaker 11: the gate defensively, but I have a hard time believing
- 17:34Speaker 11: with the the IQ levels from the DC and a
- 17:37Speaker 11: lot of the players they brought in that you're going
- 17:39Speaker 11: to see a lot of them, same mistakes made twice.
- 17:41Speaker 11: You're just gonna see them get better over the course
- 17:42Speaker 11: of the season and hopefully that leads to a playoff
- 17:45Speaker 11: birth and who knows from there.
- 17:46Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think that's good to have that
- 17:50Speaker 4: much turnover on a defense. I mean it was kind
- 17:53Speaker 4: of a blow that whole thing up type situation. So
- 17:57Speaker 4: eight or nine seems a little low. I mean when
- 17:59Speaker 4: you think about like who was held over.
- 18:02Speaker 11: Both are just the starters, right, but there's also the
- 18:04Speaker 11: contributors behind those guys. I mean you're talking really, you're
- 18:06Speaker 11: probably I think I did the mass sheets. I did
- 18:08Speaker 11: the math. It was like eighteen new names or something
- 18:11Speaker 11: like that can be between the starters and contributors.
- 18:13Speaker 3: It was a ton of guys.
- 18:15Speaker 5: Yeah, It's like you could.
- 18:16Speaker 11: Count on probably on one hand, the amount of guys
- 18:17Speaker 11: that are coming back that are going to get significant
- 18:20Speaker 11: playing time over the new guys.
- 18:21Speaker 4: All right, all right, good stuff. That's your second math
- 18:24Speaker 4: reference of the day. I wonder if my son's going
- 18:28Speaker 4: to be like that. I did some math this morning.
- 18:30Speaker 4: I doubt it. Then it is middle of June. But
- 18:34Speaker 4: that's why we love That's that's why you're the captain, Dylan.
- 18:37Speaker 4: You you know, everyone brings something else to the table,
- 18:40Speaker 4: so he's bringing the numbers part of it as well.
- 18:45Speaker 4: Interesting about that much turnover on defense, but it had
- 18:49Speaker 4: to happen. I mean, how much how much holdovers can
- 18:51Speaker 4: you have on one of the worst defenses in the
- 18:54Speaker 4: NFL and the worst that the Cowboys have ever seen.
- 18:57Speaker 4: So you had to flip that, starting with the coordinator
- 19:01Speaker 4: to play caller and then obviously the personnel as well.
- 19:06Speaker 4: All right, let's go to Lewis and Linkston, Oklahoma. Lewis,
- 19:09Speaker 4: what's up?
- 19:10Speaker 15: What's going on?
- 19:12Speaker 4: How are you doing?
- 19:13Speaker 15: Man out here? Trying to survive? Trying to survive.
- 19:15Speaker 7: That's it.
- 19:16Speaker 15: Other than that, man, just been listening for the podcast
- 19:19Speaker 15: and trying.
- 19:19Speaker 7: To catch up on everything.
- 19:20Speaker 15: My hour's been crazy at my job. So finally got
- 19:23Speaker 15: in and give him a little two cents in while
- 19:27Speaker 15: I him and just from the things I've been reading there,
- 19:30Speaker 15: the things I've been saying, I try not to be
- 19:34Speaker 15: like one of those guys that jump off the ledge.
- 19:37Speaker 8: At first sight.
- 19:38Speaker 15: You want to see the team play. But what I've
- 19:40Speaker 15: been reading about Christian Parker and stuff like that. Man,
- 19:43Speaker 15: I love the guy, I mean so far, but he's
- 19:46Speaker 15: never coached dese by hisself. So hopefully that works out.
- 19:50Speaker 15: And I'm real optimistic about that because like dealing with
- 19:54Speaker 15: saying like it's a lot, it's a big turnover.
- 19:56Speaker 6: It's not like one or two pieces.
- 19:58Speaker 15: It's pretty much a whole overload the defense. And so
- 20:01Speaker 15: I'm down with that to see how that runs. And
- 20:04Speaker 15: I'm happy that George kicking Saga is over quote unquote
- 20:07Speaker 15: if you want to call it that, I laugh.
- 20:11Speaker 4: Because you think it's over, like nothing's ever over here,
- 20:14Speaker 4: Like it's not. It seems okay at the moment. But
- 20:18Speaker 4: I think with George, I think who he is. I
- 20:20Speaker 4: don't think it's ever going to be over over a
- 20:24Speaker 4: player like that, you know, even like think of it
- 20:27Speaker 4: like CD, like CD saga. There's always gonna be something
- 20:31Speaker 4: with those guys. I mean hopefully not not anything bad,
- 20:34Speaker 4: but it's just it's just kind of who they are
- 20:37Speaker 4: what they do, which is fun.
- 20:38Speaker 6: Right.
- 20:40Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 20:40Speaker 15: I mean about said it was a big quote unquote
- 20:42Speaker 15: because you know, you never you never know, it's day
- 20:46Speaker 15: to day. But I mean, I'm glad he showed up.
- 20:48Speaker 15: It's not a talking point every on every hour of hour, true,
- 20:52Speaker 15: and so I'm glad with that. And then I'm really
- 20:56Speaker 15: just looking forward to seeing what a training cam do
- 21:00Speaker 15: through it. Like I said, I ain't go. I never
- 21:01Speaker 15: stay all too long, so I'll get in when I can.
- 21:04Speaker 15: And y'all have a good.
- 21:05Speaker 4: One, all right, appreciate that, Thanks for the call, And
- 21:08Speaker 4: you're right. I mean I was kind of, you know,
- 21:10Speaker 4: having fun with that with the Pickens part, but being
- 21:14Speaker 4: here and not not having a lot of drama from
- 21:17Speaker 4: that standpoint. If he shows up to training camp, uh,
- 21:23Speaker 4: no problems, gonna be there, good, ready to work. That
- 21:27Speaker 4: is going to feel weird when you have that very
- 21:29Speaker 4: first press conference, which will probably be like July twenty eighth,
- 21:33Speaker 4: I think, I think I don't know if that's been
- 21:34Speaker 4: announced just yet on when we're going, but looks like
- 21:38Speaker 4: the twenty seventh, and but the first press conference to
- 21:43Speaker 4: be like, yes, Pickens is here, like I could just
- 21:45Speaker 4: I could just see or hear Steven saying that, like yeah, yeah,
- 21:49Speaker 4: Pickts is here and everyone's here and we're ready to go,
- 21:51Speaker 4: and yeah, I mean we're we're expecting him to have
- 21:55Speaker 4: a good season again and we'll see, we'll see what happens.
- 21:57Speaker 4: Like if that's if that's the answer, then like what's
- 22:01Speaker 4: what's the questions here? Like what are what are we
- 22:03Speaker 4: going to be looking at? You know, I mean what
- 22:05Speaker 4: what injuries or what what? You know? Dilemma. It's always something,
- 22:09Speaker 4: but doesn't seem like it would be major. I don't
- 22:11Speaker 4: know what the talking heads at ESPN and all that
- 22:15Speaker 4: would have to be uh talking about there for the Cowboys.
- 22:18Speaker 4: But like I said, if it ain't one thing, it's another.
- 22:21Speaker 4: I didn't say that. I think Snoop said it. But
- 22:24Speaker 4: it's always it's always something, you know, all right, Chris
- 22:26Speaker 4: and Saratoga Springs. What's up?
- 22:29Speaker 1: Hey?
- 22:29Speaker 16: Nick? How's it going good? How are you not too bad?
- 22:32Speaker 16: I'm not used to this no drama right now at
- 22:35Speaker 16: this time of year. I'm used to something going on
- 22:37Speaker 16: with somebody's contracts. So having GPN it's just weird to
- 22:41Speaker 16: me because there's always normally some kind of drama going
- 22:43Speaker 16: on right right about.
- 22:44Speaker 4: Now, right, Well, yep, it'll happen.
- 22:49Speaker 6: It will happen.
- 22:52Speaker 16: I got a question for it. Uh, everybody talks about
- 22:56Speaker 16: the linebackers. If we want to sign a linebacker and
- 22:57Speaker 16: they mentioned Bobby Wagner or other other linebackers. But let
- 23:01Speaker 16: me ask you this question. It's if we sign one
- 23:04Speaker 16: of those linebackers, who who are you taking out? Because
- 23:08Speaker 16: you got right now it's Demo and Winters in the
- 23:11Speaker 16: middle of those two linebackers in the middle. So which
- 23:13Speaker 16: one of those players you're going to take out if
- 23:15Speaker 16: we sign another linebacker?
- 23:16Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, great question, which is probably why they're
- 23:21Speaker 4: not doing it. You know. I think that, you know,
- 23:25Speaker 4: if you want to bring in a guy like that,
- 23:27Speaker 4: he's going to have to come in and be the guy,
- 23:29Speaker 4: and be the starter and get paid as such, and
- 23:32Speaker 4: and be the leader and all that. And I just
- 23:35Speaker 4: don't know if the Cowboys want to do that. I
- 23:38Speaker 4: think that they feel good about what they have. I
- 23:40Speaker 4: think Winters was the guy that they brought in. They
- 23:42Speaker 4: brought in Winners, and they they're pairing them next over
- 23:46Speaker 4: shown and then they they've got bar Ham and and
- 23:49Speaker 4: Shamar James, guys that they are young guys that they're
- 23:52Speaker 4: really excited about. So I don't know if they're going
- 23:55Speaker 4: to do that. I mean, I don't I just don't
- 23:57Speaker 4: feel like that makes sense at this point because us
- 24:01Speaker 4: you're you're you want them to come in and be
- 24:03Speaker 4: a veteran leader, and I don't think that they feel
- 24:06Speaker 4: like they need that at the moment. I'm not saying
- 24:09Speaker 4: Wagner is not better than that, but for what it
- 24:12Speaker 4: would cost and what it might ruffle as what you're
- 24:15Speaker 4: kind of suggesting, I don't know if it's worth it.
- 24:18Speaker 4: I mean that that's just my take.
- 24:22Speaker 16: No, I agree with it, and I love the signing
- 24:25Speaker 16: of Winners. I think that was huge for us, and
- 24:28Speaker 16: I think Demo, you know, contract year, wants to take
- 24:31Speaker 16: a big step forward, wants that green dot and I
- 24:34Speaker 16: think you probably will get the chance to get it.
- 24:36Speaker 16: And I'm excited to see what those two were going
- 24:39Speaker 16: to do in the middle.
- 24:40Speaker 4: Both of them are contract years, correct, I mean Winters
- 24:43Speaker 4: also Winters and Overshown if I oh, uh, Chris Ryan
- 24:49Speaker 4: want to help me on that, but I think Overshown
- 24:50Speaker 4: and Winners came in the same year, same draft class,
- 24:53Speaker 4: their fourth year uh TCU guy, Texas guy. I think
- 24:57Speaker 4: that's what they they were talking about, so this should
- 24:58Speaker 4: be a contract year for Winters also. I will have
- 25:03Speaker 4: to look that up, but I'm just saying, you got
- 25:06Speaker 4: two guys with two young guys behind them chomping at
- 25:08Speaker 4: the bit there and Shamar James and Barham two guys, uh,
- 25:12Speaker 4: one of them win a contract here for sure. I
- 25:14Speaker 4: think Winters is also you're setting up an opportunity for
- 25:18Speaker 4: guys to really really good competition there at linebacker.
- 25:22Speaker 16: Yeah, agreed, last thing, real quick. I just I don't think,
- 25:27Speaker 16: I mean, we needed a turnover on all these players
- 25:29Speaker 16: on defense. Our defense was terrible last year, so we
- 25:32Speaker 16: needed that turnover and I'm happy with it and the
- 25:34Speaker 16: guys that we got. And I think we're not going
- 25:36Speaker 16: to have a problem this year of people lining up
- 25:39Speaker 16: in the wrong spot or not knowing where to go.
- 25:42Speaker 16: I've been watching CP listening to them on the sidelines
- 25:45Speaker 16: and they had the little clips of them and stuff,
- 25:46Speaker 16: and I don't think we're going to have that problem.
- 25:48Speaker 16: That's gonna be huge because that's number one, being lined up,
- 25:51Speaker 16: being lined up in the right spot and knowing where
- 25:53Speaker 16: you're going to be going is huge, and I think
- 25:55Speaker 16: that's gonna We're gonna take a huge step up on that.
- 25:57Speaker 16: So I'm happy with that as well.
- 25:58Speaker 4: Yeah, and Caleb Downs is a big part of that.
- 26:00Speaker 4: I think Jalen Thompson said something yesterday you know what,
- 26:04Speaker 4: Chris will be good. Thanks for the call. Yeah, thank you.
- 26:08Speaker 4: We'll talk to you later on. We'll talk to you
- 26:10Speaker 4: when we get to training camp. I'm sure you'll be
- 26:12Speaker 4: calling in a lot. But but you mentioned that about
- 26:14Speaker 4: about lining up in the right way, and Jalen Thompson
- 26:17Speaker 4: had some really great things to say, What a what
- 26:19Speaker 4: a what a fun interview that is. And I mean,
- 26:22Speaker 4: this guy, you know, being with the Cardinals for a
- 26:24Speaker 4: few years and you know, and and just understanding what
- 26:30Speaker 4: it is to play for the Cowboys and America's team.
- 26:32Speaker 4: He's just so appreciative of being here. But he he
- 26:37Speaker 4: was just saying how how smart Caleb Downs is and
- 26:41Speaker 4: he said, I just never seen a rookie that smart
- 26:44Speaker 4: before that just comes in and he's just all about football.
- 26:48Speaker 4: He's all about getting guys lined up the right way
- 26:51Speaker 4: and and understanding everybody's position. I mean, that's that's what
- 26:55Speaker 4: a true leader is. And that's really what a true
- 26:57Speaker 4: quarterback of the defense. We say it all the time,
- 26:59Speaker 4: like quarterback of the defense, but a quarterback knows exactly
- 27:04Speaker 4: where the guard's supposed to be and where he's going
- 27:06Speaker 4: to go, and where he's pulling here and this receiver.
- 27:09Speaker 4: I mean, how many times have you seen the quarterback
- 27:10Speaker 4: like no, get over here, like oh okay, and turns
- 27:14Speaker 4: around the running backs on this side, but it needs
- 27:16Speaker 4: to be on this side. He knows everyone's spot at
- 27:18Speaker 4: everyone's position, and I would imagine if if it means
- 27:22Speaker 4: you making a throw or getting hit by Micah Parson's
- 27:25Speaker 4: coming off the edge, you're going to know what everyone's
- 27:27Speaker 4: position is. But on defense, same type of thing. And
- 27:31Speaker 4: that's how you can get everyone lined up when you
- 27:33Speaker 4: have a guy that can do that, and if he's
- 27:36Speaker 4: a if he's a rookie, it's even more impressive. So
- 27:41Speaker 4: that's that's what we're seeing so far. It's early. No
- 27:44Speaker 4: one's no one's try you know, the Rams and Matthew
- 27:47Speaker 4: Stafford haven't come in and trying to, you know, exploit
- 27:51Speaker 4: the defense yet or anything like that. But from what
- 27:54Speaker 4: we see so far, things look look a lot better.
- 27:56Speaker 4: They have to be better, right, They have to be
- 27:58Speaker 4: better because the expectations are low and from what we
- 28:01Speaker 4: saw last year. But so far, so good on the
- 28:04Speaker 4: defensive partment. All right, Lester in Minnesota, Lester, what's up?
- 28:08Speaker 8: Good morning, Nick?
- 28:09Speaker 4: Are you.
- 28:11Speaker 8: I'm doing well?
- 28:12Speaker 4: How are you good.
- 28:14Speaker 8: Hey, I just got about three points to make here maybefore.
- 28:20Speaker 8: I like the communication that Parker is implementing with our
- 28:25Speaker 8: new young defense, new and young defense. I think if
- 28:31Speaker 8: we reach reach the potential that the expectation that I
- 28:36Speaker 8: put on them, not anyone else, I think we could
- 28:39Speaker 8: be the defense can be ranked number nineteen and with that,
- 28:46Speaker 8: I think we can win at least ten games, maybe eleven.
- 28:52Speaker 8: What's the status on Asiaku? And I'm glad that Pickens
- 28:58Speaker 8: finally showed up down. Everybody's here. Let's go Cowboys.
- 29:02Speaker 13: Hey man, have a.
- 29:03Speaker 8: Good, good break, good little vacation break or whatever you do.
- 29:08Speaker 8: Go Cowboys?
- 29:09Speaker 4: All right? Was that four points?
- 29:12Speaker 6: Like?
- 29:12Speaker 4: I was expecting a longer call there. Uh, you know,
- 29:19Speaker 4: with he mentioned that about about you know, as a roku,
- 29:24Speaker 4: I think I kind of think like he's the key,
- 29:29Speaker 4: like or or somebody like that, Like that role of
- 29:33Speaker 4: of somebody that's here has to develop and you can't
- 29:36Speaker 4: just sign all these other players and draft and you
- 29:39Speaker 4: just don't have enough money for the free agency and draft.
- 29:42Speaker 4: Somebody has to develop and and and have to take
- 29:45Speaker 4: that that leap somebody from within, And as a roku
- 29:48Speaker 4: seems to be like that best chance for that could
- 29:51Speaker 4: be over shown. How about both, you know it'd be
- 29:55Speaker 4: great for both. But as a Raku just looks like
- 30:00Speaker 4: like he could be that guy to kind of take
- 30:02Speaker 4: that to another level. And if that happens, I'll just
- 30:05Speaker 4: say this, if as Iraku has a great season turns
- 30:09Speaker 4: out to be a really great player, anything negative that
- 30:15Speaker 4: you have to say that you could say about Matt
- 30:17Speaker 4: Iberflus and what happened last year and his one year
- 30:20Speaker 4: as defensive coordinator, just just know this. Ibra Flus was
- 30:25Speaker 4: the one that stood on the table and said as Iraku,
- 30:28Speaker 4: he was the one coach who do you like? And
- 30:31Speaker 4: he was like, well, I like the Boston college kid.
- 30:33Speaker 4: I think this kid, I don't can't. I can't believe
- 30:35Speaker 4: he's still on the board. Like it was ibra Flus
- 30:38Speaker 4: that kind of like opened that door like they were
- 30:40Speaker 4: looking at some other positions. I can't remember exactly. I
- 30:42Speaker 4: think corner maybe, but I know that he was like, well,
- 30:46Speaker 4: if you're asking me, I say as a Roku and
- 30:48Speaker 4: and and so you know, if that happens, and I
- 30:52Speaker 4: think he's going to be a good player, you know,
- 30:54Speaker 4: I know, I know ibra Flus and what happened last year,
- 30:57Speaker 4: and it was it was tough, you know, to say
- 30:59Speaker 4: the But if he could provide that and help get
- 31:04Speaker 4: a young player like that in here, you know, maybe
- 31:07Speaker 4: it won't be too bad. When we talk about ebra flus,
- 31:10Speaker 4: everybody likes flus. It just it just didn't work out.
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- 32:51Speaker 4: long distance call here. How about Donald and Italy?
- 32:56Speaker 7: What's up? What's up?
- 32:58Speaker 4: How you doing?
- 32:59Speaker 7: I'm doing good. I called you from Thailand maybe a
- 33:05Speaker 7: week or two ago. I can't remember, but I'm bucking
- 33:08Speaker 7: Italy all right? And yeah, so I I just want
- 33:12Speaker 7: it was something I wanted to bring up the last time,
- 33:15Speaker 7: and I forgot, but I remember this time. Through all
- 33:19Speaker 7: those years we were playing Who Wants to be quarterback.
- 33:24Speaker 7: And then we finally got Tony Romo, and we thought
- 33:28Speaker 7: we had us a quarterback and what we did have
- 33:31Speaker 7: as a quarterback because I think Tony Room was really
- 33:33Speaker 7: really good. And then but I was always looking, you know,
- 33:37Speaker 7: watching those games and just somebody please make a play,
- 33:41Speaker 7: somebody please make a play. And what I want to
- 33:45Speaker 7: say is, I think Sam Williams takes a lot of
- 33:51Speaker 7: shots from a lot of people, but that guy makes
- 33:55Speaker 7: plays in games. Yeah, he might bumble up, but you know,
- 34:01Speaker 7: the most agreevous thing I ever seen was no, no,
- 34:05Speaker 7: not ever, but Mary Leisfile with that hit and uh,
- 34:10Speaker 7: I forget that game, but I think maybe they were
- 34:12Speaker 7: playing Washington. I can't remember, but Mayor Lei File made
- 34:16Speaker 7: a late hit that was so obvious.
- 34:20Speaker 8: It was pretty bad.
- 34:21Speaker 7: And but Sam Williams just takes a knock over the head,
- 34:25Speaker 7: but this guy makes play. I don't know a lot
- 34:32Speaker 7: about this new defense that's coming up, but I think
- 34:36Speaker 7: from the things that I'm here, it benefit Sam Williams.
- 34:41Speaker 7: I think that he could really really show us something
- 34:49Speaker 7: in this new defense. And just wanted to know what
- 34:52Speaker 7: you thought about that.
- 34:53Speaker 4: I think you're onto something here. Donald. Thank you for
- 34:56Speaker 4: the for the call and safe travels if you still
- 34:59Speaker 4: move and around there, but have a good one. Thank
- 35:03Speaker 4: you for for the called Sam Williams. That that is
- 35:07Speaker 4: a that's a guy that I'll be honest, I didn't
- 35:10Speaker 4: think was really going to be in the in the
- 35:12Speaker 4: mix to to come back. And so the fact that
- 35:17Speaker 4: you know, when you look at all the turnover there
- 35:20Speaker 4: and the coaching staff, that's how it starts, and Christiah
- 35:22Speaker 4: Parker and the guys that they have and say all right,
- 35:24Speaker 4: what are we trying to do here? And then you know,
- 35:27Speaker 4: I can imagine it being like, all right, here are
- 35:29Speaker 4: the free agents that are gone. I'm is there anybody
- 35:32Speaker 4: here that you did that you did want?
- 35:34Speaker 5: You know?
- 35:34Speaker 4: Probably not right. And then but they look at it
- 35:36Speaker 4: and they're like, well, you know, for what we're gonna do,
- 35:38Speaker 4: We're gonna move Sam Williams to this role a role
- 35:41Speaker 4: that he's done in college and and he had success
- 35:44Speaker 4: doing that, and you know he can get that that
- 35:46Speaker 4: burst off the edge and and and that's what he
- 35:49Speaker 4: does well and and and if he can if he
- 35:51Speaker 4: can do that on a consistent basis, you know, especially
- 35:55Speaker 4: for the money, I think he was like three million,
- 35:57Speaker 4: you know, nothing too great.
- 35:58Speaker 7: But.
- 36:00Speaker 4: NFL relative obviously, But I just I just feel like
- 36:06Speaker 4: the more I think about what what he could do
- 36:09Speaker 4: and how he might fit, I think that he could
- 36:13Speaker 4: be a guy that that has a Dante Fowler type,
- 36:18Speaker 4: you know, and like season like where where we've seen five, six,
- 36:22Speaker 4: maybe seven sacks where you don't have a lot of roles,
- 36:26Speaker 4: just go in there and and and rush off the edge.
- 36:29Speaker 4: We've seen him play special teams. He's got a knack
- 36:31Speaker 4: for blocking kicks. I think he can have a role.
- 36:34Speaker 4: And the fact that Christian Parker and this and this
- 36:37Speaker 4: staff said no, no, no, here's a guy that that
- 36:40Speaker 4: we would like to bring back, you know, and I
- 36:43Speaker 4: think that there could be something good there. So all right,
- 36:46Speaker 4: let's go to Michael and Bowling Green. Michael, what's up, Michael?
- 36:53Speaker 4: Are you there?
- 36:56Speaker 11: All right?
- 36:56Speaker 10: I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, America. I
- 36:58Speaker 10: actually he right. I got a question here, Which one
- 37:02Speaker 10: of these is the worst case scenario in your opinion?
- 37:08Speaker 10: Number one, We've finished the same record as last year,
- 37:13Speaker 10: but the defense is the only reason we win seven
- 37:17Speaker 10: games of the offense struggles and they got problems, or
- 37:22Speaker 10: we win enough games to get in the playoffs, get
- 37:24Speaker 10: the NFC Championship Game and lose. But after that happens,
- 37:29Speaker 10: we lose our offensive and defensive coordinators. Which one is
- 37:34Speaker 10: the worst case.
- 37:35Speaker 4: Scenario You're saying, which is the worst case scenario going
- 37:41Speaker 4: to the NFC championship game. We're finishing seven to nine
- 37:45Speaker 4: and one again, Yeah, but.
- 37:47Speaker 10: We go to the NFC Championship game and we lose
- 37:50Speaker 10: both coordinators.
- 37:52Speaker 4: Bye, Like good luck, have a good time. I've seen
- 37:57Speaker 4: it in ninety ninety three North Turner Bye wants that. Bye,
- 38:01Speaker 4: But Davis Bye, It's okay. I mean, like, I'd rather
- 38:05Speaker 4: do that and then find because how many coaches are
- 38:08Speaker 4: there that were like I could coach those guys. I
- 38:10Speaker 4: could coach those guys like, yeah, you know, bring that
- 38:16Speaker 4: over me. What is seven nine and one doing for you?
- 38:18Speaker 14: Again?
- 38:19Speaker 4: That means there's another tie. We have to do that again.
- 38:22Speaker 4: Now that's worst case. Once you said the same record,
- 38:25Speaker 4: I was like, that means another tie? No, thanks, man,
- 38:30Speaker 4: I've just seen it so many times. I mean think
- 38:33Speaker 4: about like, I'm not trying to compare the Cowboys to
- 38:35Speaker 4: the Patriots, but you remember when when the Patriots were
- 38:40Speaker 4: winning Super Bowls and all these coaches they would leave
- 38:43Speaker 4: and Romeo Cornell goes here and Josh McDaniels goes here. Well,
- 38:47Speaker 4: Tom Brady stayed, Bill Belichick stayed, and they kept winning,
- 38:51Speaker 4: you know. And so I'm not saying assistant coaches don't matter,
- 38:55Speaker 4: coordinators don't matter. But I'll take my chances. If I'm
- 38:58Speaker 4: in the NFC Championship game, I'll take my kansas that
- 39:00Speaker 4: it's the players more than it is the coach.
- 39:03Speaker 1: So that's all right.
- 39:05Speaker 10: I just wanted your perspective, that's my take.
- 39:08Speaker 4: Well, I've never been to the NFC Championship game, so
- 39:11Speaker 4: let me see you know what that feels like. So yeah,
- 39:13Speaker 4: I'm doing that all right. Good stuff. Cools got me
- 39:18Speaker 4: riled up a little bit there. I don't know why anyways.
- 39:20Speaker 4: William West Virginia, what's up?
- 39:22Speaker 8: Have we doing?
- 39:23Speaker 12: Neck good?
- 39:24Speaker 4: How are you?
- 39:26Speaker 6: Ah?
- 39:26Speaker 8: Doing pretty good? Getting ready for that game?
- 39:28Speaker 18: But North Carolina day at two o'clock. Hopefully the baseball
- 39:31Speaker 18: team can get a little payback for that loss they
- 39:33Speaker 18: did the other day.
- 39:34Speaker 7: But hopefully they can, you know.
- 39:36Speaker 18: Just as far as they've ever gone in this thing,
- 39:37Speaker 18: and hope they can make history.
- 39:39Speaker 6: You know, I'd be good to see I'm actually now
- 39:42Speaker 6: pulling for.
- 39:42Speaker 4: A loss there for your team, If that's okay. I
- 39:47Speaker 4: appreciate that, you know, not that I have any money
- 39:50Speaker 4: on the line, but you know, I'm I'm for the
- 39:54Speaker 4: tar Heels in this one. But it's okay.
- 39:57Speaker 18: I understand. I like North Carolina too, but I me
- 40:00Speaker 18: a bull for WVU. But yeah, I understand what you're saying.
- 40:03Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, if we were talking about anything
- 40:05Speaker 4: non football, I did not expect it to be college
- 40:08Speaker 4: baseball to start it off here. I would think there's
- 40:10Speaker 4: some soccer matches going on that people would talk about.
- 40:14Speaker 4: We did get a call from Italy and I thought
- 40:16Speaker 4: he no, Italy didn't make it. So anyways, all right,
- 40:20Speaker 4: what do you got?
- 40:21Speaker 8: Well, I ask you.
- 40:22Speaker 18: I mean, I was I'm really excited about Pickings being
- 40:25Speaker 18: there in the offense and everything. But the thing that
- 40:28Speaker 18: concerned me a bit Tyler Golton. He's probably playing the
- 40:30Speaker 18: second most courtant position on offense side quarterback, and I
- 40:33Speaker 18: would just wonder, what do you how do you think
- 40:36Speaker 18: he's looked so far, and do you think he's this
- 40:38Speaker 18: year will finally you know, snap through and being the
- 40:41Speaker 18: left tackle they envisioning.
- 40:43Speaker 4: To be yeah. I it's so far, so good with him.
- 40:49Speaker 4: I think that he's surrounded by guys that that is
- 40:55Speaker 4: going to help him. Also, you know, I think that
- 40:59Speaker 4: Tyler Smith, Tyler, Booker, Cooper Bebe, you know, these young guys,
- 41:04Speaker 4: they're they're all trying to get themselves better. And I
- 41:07Speaker 4: think he's right in that mix with that. Uh, they
- 41:10Speaker 4: got their little Tyler connection. He's he's there. He just
- 41:16Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe I just want that to happen
- 41:18Speaker 4: because I like him, and you know how important it is.
- 41:21Speaker 4: You just mentioned that. I just have positive thoughts that
- 41:25Speaker 4: it's going to get there. But he has to stay healthy,
- 41:28Speaker 4: like he just has to. He just can't get hurt.
- 41:31Speaker 4: And he has to get where it just slows down
- 41:34Speaker 4: for him where he's not jumping, you know, like off
- 41:37Speaker 4: sides or or false start or things like that, where
- 41:40Speaker 4: he's thinking about stuff. He needs to go out there
- 41:42Speaker 4: and play.
- 41:44Speaker 3: Uh.
- 41:44Speaker 4: They knew it would be like this, They knew that
- 41:46Speaker 4: he would it would be raw and he would have
- 41:49Speaker 4: to develop. And here we are third year. He needs
- 41:53Speaker 4: to develop. I mean the play.
- 41:55Speaker 18: You know, Booker just slid right into guard position last year,
- 41:58Speaker 18: and I know we know Zach Martin retired.
- 42:00Speaker 5: Of course, you can't even play the Hall of Famer.
- 42:01Speaker 18: But Booker just slid right in and he looked really
- 42:04Speaker 18: good most of the year. And then Geyton, I'm just like, wow,
- 42:07Speaker 18: I'm just I'm hoping he can finally get it.
- 42:09Speaker 16: You know.
- 42:09Speaker 4: It's it's a huge difference. It's funny twelve and twenty
- 42:13Speaker 4: seven or twenty eight, I believe was Geiden. Yeah, I
- 42:16Speaker 4: mean the twelfth pick at guard, which Booker was the
- 42:20Speaker 4: number one guard. I think Geyton at twenty eight, I
- 42:27Speaker 4: think he might have been like the seventh tackle, you know,
- 42:31Speaker 4: maybe six or seventh tackles. So that's just the point
- 42:34Speaker 4: is that, you know, that's the difference of drafting a
- 42:37Speaker 4: tackle late in the first round, a little bit more
- 42:39Speaker 4: of a of a project, and you take a guard
- 42:42Speaker 4: at twelve. He's he's ready to play, and that's why
- 42:45Speaker 4: you take it. That's why you know. So, yeah, he
- 42:48Speaker 4: was ready to play. But I think I still think
- 42:50Speaker 4: it's a situation where these guys will kind of help
- 42:53Speaker 4: them help each other. And he's got Tyler Smith next
- 42:57Speaker 4: to him, uh, and Tyler Smith wants him to be good.
- 43:00Speaker 4: Think about it, Tyler Smith does not want to play
- 43:02Speaker 4: left tackle. Tyler wants to play left guard. So who's
- 43:07Speaker 4: who's he rooting for? Tyler? Guy? He wants to have
- 43:11Speaker 4: a great season because that means I don't have to
- 43:14Speaker 4: do it, you know what I mean. I mean, you
- 43:15Speaker 4: want your kids. If you tell your kids to do
- 43:18Speaker 4: the chores around the house, like mow the lawn and
- 43:21Speaker 4: and and you know, the dishwasher, you want them to
- 43:23Speaker 4: do it, do a good job, because that means you don't.
- 43:26Speaker 13: Have to do it exactly.
- 43:28Speaker 4: I don't know if that's the same comparison, but we'll see.
- 43:31Speaker 18: All right, we'll have a good one.
- 43:35Speaker 4: All right, let's keep it rolling here. Before we take
- 43:38Speaker 4: another break, Let's go to Robbie and Coco Beach. Robbie,
- 43:41Speaker 4: what's up, hey.
- 43:43Speaker 3: Nick today? Good?
- 43:44Speaker 4: How are you well?
- 43:45Speaker 3: At disappointed that I will be coming out of the
- 43:47Speaker 3: training camp, but I've been spending money on other places.
- 43:51Speaker 3: It would have been fun. Yeah, gotta make your choices right, right?
- 43:55Speaker 3: But hey, so I was doing some masks today, Okay,
- 44:00Speaker 3: just kidding. Yeah, No, I heard what Dylans said would
- 44:04Speaker 3: have made me laugh. I am happy about what George
- 44:07Speaker 3: Pickens said, although I really expected to hear him say, hey, look,
- 44:09Speaker 3: you're not going to see me laying on the training
- 44:11Speaker 3: table over there. I'm going to be practicing. Just the
- 44:16Speaker 3: way they're asking him questions. They kept like poking at
- 44:19Speaker 3: him and everything else. You guys just said, like the
- 44:22Speaker 3: last three calls, I wanted to talk about Sam Williams.
- 44:25Speaker 3: I think he's going to have a great I hope
- 44:27Speaker 3: he has a great year.
- 44:28Speaker 16: I don't think.
- 44:29Speaker 3: I don't know. You never know. But going back to
- 44:32Speaker 3: what he did at college, it seems more appropriate for
- 44:34Speaker 3: him a little more just go attack seaball, attack ball
- 44:37Speaker 3: instead of all the other responsibilities that he had. Maybe
- 44:41Speaker 3: better for him, Tyler Guiden here three you just said
- 44:44Speaker 3: in the last call, if he's healthy, I think he
- 44:47Speaker 3: takes that leap. I've been listening to some other podcasts
- 44:50Speaker 3: you most foremost, but listen to other ones too, and
- 44:56Speaker 3: just what Manny Leather says about him, or Duke Merryweather
- 44:59Speaker 3: Many Weather and talking about man Well, yeah, talk about
- 45:03Speaker 3: Guide and it's like, Wow, this guy sounds like he's
- 45:05Speaker 3: going to be a star. And that's kind of what
- 45:07Speaker 3: we said when we drafted him, was that, hey, this
- 45:09Speaker 3: is the first round guy, but he's only played tackle
- 45:11Speaker 3: for two years or three years. He's very raw, so
- 45:16Speaker 3: maybe this is the year that it clinches. So other
- 45:19Speaker 3: than that, man, have a great week off, enjoy or
- 45:21Speaker 3: two or whatever your time off is, and we'll see
- 45:23Speaker 3: you when you get back. Oh and lastly, I bought
- 45:25Speaker 3: a bunch of these razor blades for this this new
- 45:28Speaker 3: Gillette razor. I need one so I could save my face.
- 45:32Speaker 3: Have been getting along over here, all.
- 45:35Speaker 4: Right, we'll get we'll get one.
- 45:37Speaker 6: Said to you, I appreciate that.
- 45:40Speaker 4: Thanks.
- 45:43Speaker 6: You know.
- 45:44Speaker 4: Back back to Guidon, like he's he's so so tall,
- 45:49Speaker 4: like he's not you know, he's not Tyron Smith, who
- 45:54Speaker 4: is like nobody is that guy, so you know, it
- 45:57Speaker 4: really makes you kind of appreciate him a little bit
- 45:59Speaker 4: more or because because he he was everything you wanted
- 46:02Speaker 4: and then he was just super like strong, Like I
- 46:07Speaker 4: think Tyron Smith could be in wrestling, Like I think
- 46:12Speaker 4: he would be that type of guy like that that
- 46:15Speaker 4: big I mean he could. He had that kind of
- 46:18Speaker 4: physique and it's just hard to think anybody can can
- 46:22Speaker 4: be that guy. But Tyler Geyton is like he's tall,
- 46:28Speaker 4: he's not like as strong, but still with those long arms,
- 46:32Speaker 4: he's gotta he's got to learn to use that as
- 46:35Speaker 4: his strength and it can happen that way. You can
- 46:38Speaker 4: you can use you know, your your your leverage to
- 46:41Speaker 4: your advantage. He's just like you said, he's just got
- 46:44Speaker 4: to keep doing it, got to keep playing. Gotta understand that.
- 46:49Speaker 4: It's it's too bad honestly that you know Micah wasn't
- 46:53Speaker 4: here for other reasons, but you kind of want that.
- 46:58Speaker 4: You know, remember the where and Tyron Smith thing, you know,
- 47:02Speaker 4: where was pun intended? Where was wearing him out, you know,
- 47:07Speaker 4: like his first couple of years, but then it then
- 47:10Speaker 4: it switched and tired, like you're not doing that anymore.
- 47:13Speaker 4: You kind of wish and hope that there is a
- 47:16Speaker 4: situation like that. Maybe it's ver Sean Garry or Isaaaku.
- 47:19Speaker 4: Maybe they can kind of be like that where they
- 47:22Speaker 4: push each other. But you want that. You want him
- 47:25Speaker 4: to be able to go up against somebody like that
- 47:27Speaker 4: all the time, not just when the Rams come in
- 47:30Speaker 4: and bring Miles Garrett, but every day in practice. You
- 47:32Speaker 4: want that kind of competition. And I'm not saying it
- 47:35Speaker 4: won't happen, but you know that's that would be good
- 47:38Speaker 4: for both of them, and you want him to be
- 47:40Speaker 4: good enough to push the other guys too. All right Jr.
- 47:44Speaker 4: And Avondale Arizona. What's up?
- 47:47Speaker 6: Good morning, Nick?
- 47:48Speaker 3: How you doing.
- 47:48Speaker 4: I'm good. How are you?
- 47:50Speaker 6: I'm doing all right? Man doing okay. I don't have
- 47:53Speaker 6: much today. A couple of things. I'm glad GP showed
- 47:57Speaker 6: up and hopefully he keeps showing up. Just think with
- 48:01Speaker 6: all the everything that's so new about this about this team,
- 48:05Speaker 6: especially on defense, I think the last thing they need
- 48:08Speaker 6: is a distraction, like you know, we've seen the last
- 48:10Speaker 6: few years, whether it was back and he was in camp,
- 48:13Speaker 6: but you know, that's all they talked about was his
- 48:16Speaker 6: contractor CD not being there. So I'm glad he's there
- 48:19Speaker 6: so they don't have to deal with those distractions. And
- 48:23Speaker 6: I looked for the defense to be better than I
- 48:26Speaker 6: can't Mayber who said nineteen, I think they're going to
- 48:29Speaker 6: be coach to the twelve. Between ten and fifteen. On
- 48:33Speaker 6: the defense, I think it's going to be a lot better.
- 48:36Speaker 6: So hopefully that that comes true.
- 48:40Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's one of those things where it's
- 48:43Speaker 4: it has to be better, but just how much better?
- 48:46Speaker 4: And also how much did the offense did the offense regret?
- 48:49Speaker 4: Did the offense get better? Because if the offense is
- 48:52Speaker 4: better than it was last year, and the defense is
- 48:57Speaker 4: a little bit better than I mean, it could be
- 49:01Speaker 4: a really good season, right, I know.
- 49:03Speaker 6: But and how much better does the offense get if
- 49:07Speaker 6: we're the defense is getting turnovers and they're having a
- 49:10Speaker 6: short field, not having to go eighty yards everything to
- 49:12Speaker 6: get the ball. Yeah, I think that's going to be
- 49:14Speaker 6: a factor.
- 49:15Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 49:15Speaker 6: And other than that, I've been I've been Collings for
- 49:21Speaker 6: going on a year as much as I possibly can,
- 49:23Speaker 6: and unfortunately I'm not probably able to call very much.
- 49:27Speaker 6: I had an opportunity to make some money and so
- 49:30Speaker 6: I decided to do that. And I'll be listening, but
- 49:33Speaker 6: i'll call when I can. But i've been I'm really
- 49:36Speaker 6: happy to be part of the community, a vocal part.
- 49:39Speaker 6: I've always listened. But I'll call when I can and
- 49:43Speaker 6: hopefully that and that'll be soon.
- 49:45Speaker 4: So well, well, congrats on the opportunity that you got.
- 49:49Speaker 4: That sounds like a great thing. And you know we've
- 49:51Speaker 4: been joking about you know, doing math. Everyone does math.
- 49:55Speaker 4: Everyone does math. Especially when you get opportunities like that,
- 49:58Speaker 4: You're like, all right, I make this. I have a
- 50:01Speaker 4: chance to make this. That's this much more. That's math
- 50:04Speaker 4: and and and it sounds like you're making some some
- 50:07Speaker 4: good math decisions there.
- 50:09Speaker 6: Well, my wife and is planning a trip to Europe,
- 50:14Speaker 6: and I think I'm included, so I'm sure I need
- 50:17Speaker 6: to make some money to pay for it. So anyway,
- 50:20Speaker 6: I'll be listening and I'll call what I can and
- 50:22Speaker 6: hopefully it'll work out so I can call boards. Then
- 50:25Speaker 6: I think anyway, I'm a great day, Nick, go cowboy,
- 50:29Speaker 6: all right, j R.
- 50:30Speaker 4: I love that that. That is such a that is
- 50:33Speaker 4: such a marriage statement right there. My wife's planning a
- 50:37Speaker 4: trip to Europe. I think I'm able. I think I'm
- 50:41Speaker 4: a part of it, but I got to make some
- 50:43Speaker 4: money to pay for it. Boy, that you've got it
- 50:47Speaker 4: all figured out right there. I've never met you, I've
- 50:49Speaker 4: never met your wife, but I know that whole situation
- 50:52Speaker 4: right there. I think I'm going on this trip. I
- 50:54Speaker 4: think I'm allow I'm allowed to go. I know I'm
- 50:57Speaker 4: paying for it. Not sure if I if I'm going that.
- 51:00Speaker 4: I love that, all right? Good stuff? All right, Let's
- 51:03Speaker 4: go to Mike Birmingham, England. Mike, what is up?
- 51:08Speaker 14: Greetings from England?
- 51:09Speaker 13: Nick?
- 51:09Speaker 8: How are you?
- 51:11Speaker 4: I'm good? So you're in England. Now I am.
- 51:14Speaker 14: Indeed, yes, I'm in the wrong place, Dallas.
- 51:18Speaker 4: The entire I thought like the entire country was here
- 51:21Speaker 4: in Dallas. I guess not. I guess there's a couple
- 51:23Speaker 4: of people left over.
- 51:25Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, I'm still here. I'm afraid. I was just
- 51:28Speaker 14: talking to Chris. I take it your you're not going
- 51:31Speaker 14: to the game tonight.
- 51:32Speaker 8: No.
- 51:33Speaker 4: I did some math this morning, and I realized that
- 51:37Speaker 4: I would rather have a house and a car than
- 51:40Speaker 4: go to the game against England and Croatia. But you know,
- 51:44Speaker 4: I could trade in. I could. I could trade in
- 51:46Speaker 4: the car and the house and just walk there, and
- 51:48Speaker 4: that would be good. But then you know, I don't
- 51:50Speaker 4: have to pay for parking, which would also be tickets.
- 51:53Speaker 4: Are tickets are high as they should be.
- 51:55Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm sure Chris will give you a lift. But no, no,
- 51:59Speaker 14: that I mean. We always lose to Croatia anyway. It's
- 52:02Speaker 14: really annoying. They've got a population of about twenty seven
- 52:05Speaker 14: and we just never beat them. So there we go.
- 52:09Speaker 14: Maybe today's the day.
- 52:12Speaker 3: Nick.
- 52:12Speaker 14: I just wanted to just pay a tribute to Kyle
- 52:15Speaker 14: Yeomans because obviously he's leaving the squad unless he's just
- 52:20Speaker 14: negotiating for a bigger contract. I think he's absolutely terrific.
- 52:24Speaker 14: He's a great host, and from what they were saying,
- 52:27Speaker 14: I'm talking yesterday, it sounds like he's a really terrific
- 52:30Speaker 14: bloke as well. So whatever it is he's going to
- 52:32Speaker 14: announce that he's doing next, they wishing all the very best.
- 52:36Speaker 4: Let me just tell you this, You're not going to
- 52:39Speaker 4: wish him all the very best. You can just wish
- 52:41Speaker 4: him the best, but not all the very best, right, okay,
- 52:46Speaker 4: saying he wanted him to do well most of the time,
- 52:50Speaker 4: most of the time, but not every time.
- 52:53Speaker 14: Right, gotcha? Okay, Well, I wish him well personally, but
- 52:57Speaker 14: not necessarily the organization that he's going to.
- 53:00Speaker 3: So let's say that.
- 53:03Speaker 14: So it's quiet, isn't it? Like George Pickens was meant
- 53:08Speaker 14: to be the big story. But of course he just
- 53:10Speaker 14: turns up and there's nothing to see here. You know,
- 53:12Speaker 14: is this really the cowboys? And it got me thinking
- 53:18Speaker 14: a couple of weeks ago. You know, most cowboys sounds
- 53:21Speaker 14: are very kind of measured about it, but a few
- 53:22Speaker 14: people losing their rag about the Miles Garrett trade, and
- 53:28Speaker 14: you know, we should have sold the farm to get
- 53:30Speaker 14: him and so on, and it just got me thinking
- 53:34Speaker 14: to those people. But I've also be interested to know
- 53:36Speaker 14: what you think because we had our elite past Rusher
- 53:40Speaker 14: who was in very much the same sort of ability level,
- 53:45Speaker 14: a bit younger. We had one and we let him go.
- 53:47Speaker 14: So for the last ever time, let's just talk about
- 53:51Speaker 14: Mica one more time, because this time of year always
- 53:54Speaker 14: reminds me of him and the circus around him.
- 53:58Speaker 3: Knowing what we know now.
- 54:01Speaker 14: Aside from the injury, but with everything that's come since then,
- 54:05Speaker 14: knowing what we know now, if you could undo that trade,
- 54:09Speaker 14: would you undo it? Or do you feel like it's
- 54:12Speaker 14: turned out yet? Actually we're on top there. We've done
- 54:16Speaker 14: well out of that, and for me, I'm very happy
- 54:20Speaker 14: with where we've landed, and I'm very happy that you know,
- 54:22Speaker 14: it was a sensible decision. Could we have tried to
- 54:25Speaker 14: throw all the chips in to get Garrett?
- 54:27Speaker 3: Probably not.
- 54:27Speaker 14: We didn't have enough chips, But if we did, did
- 54:29Speaker 14: I want to throw everything at it?
- 54:32Speaker 1: No?
- 54:32Speaker 14: I think we've got we've got good depths, we've got
- 54:35Speaker 14: good balance across our roster, and for me, I think
- 54:39Speaker 14: the Mica trade has has worked out pretty well for us.
- 54:43Speaker 14: Green Bay would probably say it's worked out well for
- 54:45Speaker 14: them as well, apart from the injury, and that's fine.
- 54:48Speaker 14: Everyone's a winner. But I just wonder what you think.
- 54:51Speaker 14: And yeah, all the very best and I will see
- 54:53Speaker 14: you in Oxnard.
- 54:54Speaker 4: All right, oh good, all right, thanks thanks for the
- 54:57Speaker 4: car mate. It's such a it's such a tough question
- 55:02Speaker 4: with layers, just because you have to It's like when
- 55:09Speaker 4: when when did this happen? When did that happen? You
- 55:11Speaker 4: can't just go back and say, would you do the
- 55:13Speaker 4: trade again? If if it got to the point, like
- 55:20Speaker 4: if you laid it on the table again, I'm making
- 55:22Speaker 4: the trade. I'm sorry. I mean if I if I'm
- 55:24Speaker 4: old school for that, fine, but what he what that
- 55:27Speaker 4: symbolized to me? And how tough it's all. You just
- 55:31Speaker 4: can't come back from that. You can't as a leader,
- 55:35Speaker 4: You just can't do that. So if if you got
- 55:38Speaker 4: to that point and that happened again, then yeah, could
- 55:41Speaker 4: they have done something before that? Could it? Could it
- 55:44Speaker 4: have gotten to a point where it wasn't nasty? Yeah, yeah,
- 55:49Speaker 4: that that would be nice. What or what about making
- 55:53Speaker 4: that trade for for forgett just because obviously Verse was
- 55:59Speaker 4: a huge part of that. For for Cleveland. I mean
- 56:01Speaker 4: that had to happen. Well, what, there's really not much
- 56:04Speaker 4: difference there. I mean, he's a better player than Verse,
- 56:07Speaker 4: so you could have you could have made that trade,
- 56:09Speaker 4: you know, if maybe it would have happened before he
- 56:13Speaker 4: set the record and all that kind of stuff, so
- 56:15Speaker 4: the price wouldn't have been as much. So in hindsight
- 56:17Speaker 4: there maybe, but you know, it is what it is.
- 56:21Speaker 4: They tried to make the deal that they they really
- 56:23Speaker 4: thought all along it was going to happen. And that's
- 56:27Speaker 4: not what Michael was wanting here. He wanted, you know,
- 56:30Speaker 4: way way higher than the market values that suggested. And
- 56:35Speaker 4: he kind of did different antics, I mean, trying to
- 56:38Speaker 4: you know, basically faking a back injury and laying down
- 56:40Speaker 4: on the table in the middle of the game when
- 56:42Speaker 4: you're trying to you know, you should be supporting your teammates.
- 56:44Speaker 4: So when that situation hit, it had to go. So,
- 56:48Speaker 4: all right, we have to go to break. We'll be
- 56:50Speaker 4: right back after this.
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- 58:05Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Cowboys storyline. This segment brought to
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- 58:16Speaker 4: All right, a couple more callers here before we take
- 58:21Speaker 4: a big break this off season and won't be back
- 58:25Speaker 4: until ox Chart. This will be my last indoor show
- 58:29Speaker 4: for a while. Unless Chris has got something set up
- 58:31Speaker 4: at training camp. I don't know about, but I think
- 58:34Speaker 4: it's gonna be. We're gonna be out there, out in
- 58:38Speaker 4: the sun, out with Mo Clayborn and the mowers in
- 58:41Speaker 4: the back, and it should be a lot of fun.
- 58:44Speaker 4: All right, Joe and Stanford is next. What's up, Joe?
- 58:48Speaker 13: What's up?
- 58:49Speaker 6: Brother?
- 58:49Speaker 13: I'll be out there with you, man, can't wait to
- 58:51Speaker 13: see you an Oxnard.
- 58:52Speaker 4: Nice do this?
- 58:54Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm excited. Irene found in a cool place for
- 58:58Speaker 13: us all to stay and we're gonna be there with
- 59:00Speaker 13: else on. Ready to see it.
- 59:01Speaker 4: Awesome, good time.
- 59:02Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm excited. So I had some other things to
- 59:05Speaker 13: talk about, but I want to touch on that Micah
- 59:07Speaker 13: thing that you were just talking about. I have a
- 59:10Speaker 13: really post friend here that I work with in Abilene,
- 59:14Speaker 13: who Kim and I had wanted to trade Michael two
- 59:19Speaker 13: years ago, three years ago. The reason why is because
- 59:22Speaker 13: he's a crap teammate. He's always been a crap teammate.
- 59:25Speaker 13: He's always throwing his teammates under the bus. He's always
- 59:28Speaker 13: about himself. I was not sad to see him go.
- 59:32Speaker 13: Did it sort of screw us last year? Yeah? I
- 59:35Speaker 13: think it probably did. Maybe we made the playoffs with
- 59:39Speaker 13: a crazy, great pass rusher like him, maybe so. But
- 59:42Speaker 13: I think we're in a much better place now. I
- 59:46Speaker 13: don't think we would have this awesome coaching staff that
- 59:49Speaker 13: we do. I think Hubrifus might have held on for
- 59:51Speaker 13: another year. So Micah's trade is a chain of events
- 59:56Speaker 13: that guide us to where we are right now. And
- 59:58Speaker 13: I am super optimistic about the staff and the players
- 1:00:02Speaker 13: and what's going to be happening in this next year.
- 1:00:04Speaker 13: So that's that's why I feel about that. Anyway, I
- 1:00:08Speaker 13: had a question that I was curious about gp is
- 1:00:13Speaker 13: is tagged. Do they pay them, does the does the
- 1:00:16Speaker 13: franchise tag pay just on the games, or do they
- 1:00:19Speaker 13: get some sort of signing bonus at the beginning of
- 1:00:21Speaker 13: the year. Do you have any idea about that?
- 1:00:23Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's divided by eighteen. I mean it's it's uh,
- 1:00:27Speaker 4: he doesn't get there's no there's no signing bonus or
- 1:00:31Speaker 4: anything like that. He gets his base salary is twenty
- 1:00:35Speaker 4: seven point one whatever divided by eighteen, So that's that's
- 1:00:39Speaker 4: what he'll get and that's when he gets the money. So,
- 1:00:42Speaker 4: you know, it was kind of kind of funny if
- 1:00:43Speaker 4: you talk about training camp, talking about now is he
- 1:00:46Speaker 4: going to miss that? And I and I said it
- 1:00:48Speaker 4: like this guy never been afraid to be fined. Well, okay, yeah,
- 1:00:52Speaker 4: he got twenty seven million dollars, but he hadn't had it.
- 1:00:54Speaker 4: He doesn't get it yet. Uh he I think he
- 1:00:56Speaker 4: in my understanding, he gets that each week, each Tuesday
- 1:01:00Speaker 4: of getting his paycheck. It's pretty hefty. But uh, that's
- 1:01:05Speaker 4: that's usually how to wait. Yeah, it has to wait
- 1:01:08Speaker 4: for it.
- 1:01:09Speaker 13: Now, that's interesting. I never really contemplated that until this year.
- 1:01:14Speaker 13: A couple other questions. One fun question for you and
- 1:01:17Speaker 13: then another question because I heard you talk about him,
- 1:01:20Speaker 13: what's your favorite press box? Where do you like to
- 1:01:22Speaker 13: go the most?
- 1:01:23Speaker 5: And the other question is.
- 1:01:24Speaker 13: Where do I find that Jalen Thompson interview you were
- 1:01:27Speaker 13: talking about, I'll take it off their brothers in California.
- 1:01:30Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, man, good good stuff. I'm trying to
- 1:01:35Speaker 4: think if our Cowboys video is behind me. I think
- 1:01:39Speaker 4: they were they got in there, so it might be
- 1:01:42Speaker 4: it might be on the website. I haven't seen that
- 1:01:45Speaker 4: because they kind of put some of these guys, these
- 1:01:47Speaker 4: defensive guys together, so it might be in a group
- 1:01:51Speaker 4: of four or five different interviews. After the interview, after
- 1:01:56Speaker 4: the video, I kind of I asked a couple more
- 1:01:58Speaker 4: questions just in general, just kind of fun questions about
- 1:02:02Speaker 4: Dallas and versus Arizona and all that. So I can't
- 1:02:04Speaker 4: remember exactly all what was on cameraon what wasn't, but
- 1:02:07Speaker 4: just just in general just talking to him. Uh, he's
- 1:02:11Speaker 4: just he's just he's just a fun person to talk to.
- 1:02:14Speaker 4: And I and I, you know, very smart guy as well.
- 1:02:16Speaker 4: I think him and downs together for at least a
- 1:02:19Speaker 4: few years. I mean that that could be a really
- 1:02:21Speaker 4: good uh combination. You said favorite press box. You know
- 1:02:28Speaker 4: it comes down to like what is I don't know,
- 1:02:34Speaker 4: like like view, Uh, you know, how how accessible it
- 1:02:39Speaker 4: is to the field, food, all those things. So if
- 1:02:44Speaker 4: you if you factor that in, it's usually places we
- 1:02:47Speaker 4: don't go to that often. Tennessee's goods, uh. Baltimore. The
- 1:02:54Speaker 4: the Ravens have a have a pretty good, uh press box.
- 1:02:59Speaker 4: And in Seattle. You know what I love about Seattle
- 1:03:03Speaker 4: is the fact that that they've made some changes there.
- 1:03:05Speaker 4: So I don't know if it's as good as it
- 1:03:06Speaker 4: used to be. But I do though that they have
- 1:03:09Speaker 4: an elevator just for the media, nobody else. No, not,
- 1:03:13Speaker 4: we don't have that at dubtas I know that. But
- 1:03:16Speaker 4: but just just up down, up down, up down. That's
- 1:03:19Speaker 4: that's the way you like. Philly's not bad Philly, Philly.
- 1:03:22Speaker 4: You know, overall for everything that that's you factor in there,
- 1:03:26Speaker 4: they're they're not bad. But I mean ours is ours
- 1:03:29Speaker 4: is as good as anybody's, you know, I mean really
- 1:03:32Speaker 4: when you factor in all those those type of things. Uh,
- 1:03:35Speaker 4: I like the I like the Cowboys press box for sure,
- 1:03:38Speaker 4: you know, but it's not Washington. I mean that if
- 1:03:43Speaker 4: you if you want to go to that, to that
- 1:03:45Speaker 4: side of it, I mean, it's it's not Washington, all right.
- 1:03:49Speaker 13: K C in l A.
- 1:03:50Speaker 7: What's up, hey, Nick?
- 1:03:52Speaker 19: How's it going good? How are you good?
- 1:03:55Speaker 10: Man?
- 1:03:56Speaker 19: The new gigs making out hard to call in, so
- 1:03:58Speaker 19: I might have to make some life choices with employment,
- 1:04:01Speaker 19: but I just wanted to get in before you guys
- 1:04:03Speaker 19: take a break. I'm completely stoked with Caleb Downs. It
- 1:04:07Speaker 19: still feels like Christmas evens were this far past the draft,
- 1:04:12Speaker 19: and I feel like he's really going to help police
- 1:04:15Speaker 19: this team and get the guys you've been talking about
- 1:04:18Speaker 19: that really want to play football. I think he's going
- 1:04:21Speaker 19: to be an extension of that on the field, So
- 1:04:24Speaker 19: I'm completely stoked about him. Schedule wise, it's brutal at
- 1:04:29Speaker 19: the beginning, but we don't play any teams coming out
- 1:04:32Speaker 19: there bye week, so that's kind of a way I
- 1:04:33Speaker 19: think that NFL helped us on that every schedule is
- 1:04:37Speaker 19: brutal though, and then just since we're going into summer,
- 1:04:40Speaker 19: it's a little goofy. It's been a while since we
- 1:04:43Speaker 19: talked about our favorite wrestlers, but I go back. My
- 1:04:47Speaker 19: favorite as a kid was Iceman in Parsons. So here
- 1:04:52Speaker 19: we go into the drought, looking forward to getting back
- 1:04:54Speaker 19: to several skills during the week. Thinks again and to
- 1:04:58Speaker 19: quote my man Iceman like mom at this it beats
- 1:05:01Speaker 19: that way sometime.
- 1:05:02Speaker 3: Thanks Nick.
- 1:05:03Speaker 4: All right, Uh, that's two references to Parsons in Dallas.
- 1:05:08Speaker 4: I thought, you know, I thought Iceman King was was
- 1:05:12Speaker 4: the best Parsons ever. I mean in doubt Chandler Parsons
- 1:05:16Speaker 4: maybe for about an hour. He played for the Mavericks
- 1:05:18Speaker 4: and then Micah for four years. But yeah, Ice Fan
- 1:05:22Speaker 4: King Parsons, you know, and some people had the head butt,
- 1:05:25Speaker 4: some people did the butt butt. I mean that's you know,
- 1:05:28Speaker 4: I think that's probably a good appropriate way to kind
- 1:05:31Speaker 4: of end the show. And and uh, this off season here,
- 1:05:35Speaker 4: but guys, good stuff fourteen callers today, and I know that,
- 1:05:40Speaker 4: you know, there's a there's not a lot to talk about,
- 1:05:43Speaker 4: but you know, you guys did did your best. And
- 1:05:45Speaker 4: there's a lot of hope, a lot of optimism for
- 1:05:48Speaker 4: the season and and and there usually is around you know,
- 1:05:51Speaker 4: this time of year. Everybody just kind of wants to
- 1:05:53Speaker 4: feel good about it, wants to feel, you know, something
- 1:05:55Speaker 4: good about But you know, I do think there's some
- 1:05:57Speaker 4: there's some good things happening here. I think think Shot
- 1:06:00Speaker 4: he's done a really good job of building up this culture.
- 1:06:04Speaker 4: We'll see what this what this staff can do. You know,
- 1:06:07Speaker 4: on the defensive side of the ball, all these new players,
- 1:06:11Speaker 4: and then the offense iss got to take another step,
- 1:06:13Speaker 4: you know, and it's got to keep getting better. And
- 1:06:16Speaker 4: you add all that together and yeah, the schedule looks
- 1:06:19Speaker 4: looks challenging, but it's always going to be challenging, you know.
- 1:06:21Speaker 4: That's that's the the nature of the NFL. But it's
- 1:06:25Speaker 4: been a lot of fun looking forward to seeing you
- 1:06:27Speaker 4: guys out there training camp and know there's some people
- 1:06:29Speaker 4: going out there, but we'll have some some some shows
- 1:06:32Speaker 4: from there. Again, not sure on the time, not sure
- 1:06:35Speaker 4: on the days of the week and all that stuff,
- 1:06:37Speaker 4: all the rotation, but we'll be out there. We'll be
- 1:06:39Speaker 4: ready to go. We'll have some new things for you,
- 1:06:41Speaker 4: have some new people, uh maybe that you haven't seen before. Uh,
- 1:06:45Speaker 4: and people that that you know that you used to
- 1:06:47Speaker 4: see in that that aren't there but uh, which we've
- 1:06:49Speaker 4: already sort of talked about. But either way, we're back.
- 1:06:52Speaker 4: We're gonna do this thing again. We're ready to roll
- 1:06:54Speaker 4: up the sleeves and and do it another time. We'll
- 1:06:56Speaker 4: see you guys out there. Enjoy the break off you
- 1:06:59Speaker 4: know that we'll have for the next few weeks. We've
- 1:07:03Speaker 4: got a few more shows this week, maybe something into
- 1:07:05Speaker 4: next week. Then we're gonna take a big break before
- 1:07:07Speaker 4: we go to training camp. All right, guys. For Chris Beam,
- 1:07:09Speaker 4: I'm Nick Eatman. We'll see out there in Oxtar here
- 1:07:12Speaker 4: on Cowboys storyline.
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