Latest / The Sense and Senseless Podcast / • Ep:51 Part 2 250,000 UK Girls Raped: Heartbreaking Victim Stories They Tried to Hide
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- Bryan: Yeah, I gotta up my game. Jason: ⁓ Bryan: All right, you ready to get on with two? Jason: Let's do it. Bryan: Let's do it. Let's see. Jason: ⁓ Bryan: Hi, welcome back to the Sensin Senseless Podcast. I am Brian. Jason: I'm Jason. Bryan: Yes, Daniel. It's your first time joining us. Welcome to the family. We're just two dudes discussing some serious shit with no filter and honest ticks. Jason: Thanks all. Bryan: We're jumping straight back into the discussion with part two of one of the toughest conversations we've ever had. If you haven't seen or listened to part one, I highly encourage you to do so. In part one, we laid out the big picture and Dr. Ella Hill's story. In this part, we're going to go deeper into the victims' testimonies from the UK rape gang inquiry. Real stories of children. Some children as young as eight or eleven who were groomed, repeatedly gang raped, tortured, and trafficked while the entire system looked the other way just to avoid being called racist. You'll hear about Chloe, whose own mother ignored her abuse. Social services handed her condoms instead of safety. Kate's unimaginable nine days of torture. Boys like Wallace abused from age four and many more. These aren't easy to hear, but they need to be told. Does horror happen in a modern Western nation? And if we keep playing the same games of division and fear here in America, it can happen here too. Stick with us. We'll end by tying all this together and talking about what real unity looks like in part three. Please like, share, follow, and subscribe. We love and appreciate each and every one of you. All right, Jason, you got anything before we jump into this? Jason: No, just buckle up people and just keep an open mind about this. Knowledge. Continue getting knowledge. Bryan: Moment. Let's go. So in this part, I'm gonna go over the victim stories with you. All right. There are a lot of details in this report, and I'm gonna try to give you an idea of what these victims went through. ⁓ but note these victim stories go in much more detail. If you want all the details from this report, you can easily define the report online for the sake of time and all these cases follow the same pattern as I outlined earlier. You know, most cases, ⁓ most abuse started age 11 to 15, some as young as eight or even younger in extreme cases. This wasn't just girls, there were boys that were being raped, just not as many. And ⁓ we're gonna start with Khloe. She was the first victim that was listed in the report. And ⁓ it was rather detailed. but I'm gonna give you a brief summary on what happened to this poor girl. All right, so Chloe started her life as a good with a good childhood. She was popular in school. She enjoyed an active social life and made good grades. Her parents separated when she was young, but she had a good upbringing to this point in her life. So Chloe went to live with her dad and her brother. Her dad was an alcoholic but treated her well, from what I gathered from this report. Her mother wasn't a big part of her life and became homeless after the divorce. Her dad died just before Chloe's tenth birthday, so she had to move with a mother and a mother's new husband. Chloe describes her stepfather as a pedophile who sexually abused her. Chloe's mother knew this shit and didn't do anything to stop it. Chloe's mother caught her own husband, Chloe's stepfather, in the shower with her daughter. And instead of beating the shit out of her husband, calling the cops, or just stopping it, she just closed the door and walked out. Chloe was fucking ten years old at that time. Soon the abuse escalated to rape. Chloe's stepfather supplied her with alcohol, cigarettes just to keep her quiet. And soon she started smoking weed. Chloe started spending time in in the local town center with friends to escape the shit at home. And this is where the Muslim grooming game comes in. Muslim men, primarily Pakistani, aged twenty to fifty, started showing her and her friend attention. Many of his men were in taxi drivers and would drive them around town. It started as a casual attention, you know, while inappropriate for an adult to be treating a kid with mild affection, this was not sexual abuse to begin with. These girls were in the final year primary school. They enjoyed being treated like adults. Then the grooming intensified. They were given alcohol and soon physical contact grew to kissing and massages. Meanwhile, the sexual abuse from a stepfather was getting worse at home. Chloe had an aunt and uncle that was lived close by and she would visit regularly. She trusted them. And at this point they were a stable factor in her life. Until one day her uncle showed up at her house unannounced while she was alone. Chloe's uncle sexually assaulted her. She thought highly of her uncle until this point. She told her mom and brought it to the attention of the police, but the police accused Chloe of lying, no further action was taken. At this point, the poor girl couldn't trust anyone. Increasingly, she felt isolated and became more deeply involved with the Muslim men in the town center. Now, I just wanted to give you some backstory on how this shit begins. This poor girl went to hell for years. These gangs were at every turn she made. Around age 13, Chloe disclosed the social services she was being sexually abused by gangs of Muslim men. Social services didn't do a fucking thing. They talked to Chloe about using contraceptive and health advice. One social worker regularly started taking Chloe to the sexual health clinic where she was diagnosed with chlamydia in her throat and vagina, gonorrhea, genital warts, and pelvic inflammatory disease. She was fucking thirteen years old. Jason: sí. Bryan: Neither the social workers or nor the clinic staff questioned or reported this. Now the police were aware of Chloe's activities. Hell, they even found young Chloe in cars and houses with these men. But instead of targeting those responsible for her abuse, not only did they not did not investigate the abuse, they didn't even question the men that were there with her. She says she was raped by hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of men. When she was able to get away from these gangs, they found a way back into her life, even taking claim to her home, tearing it up and using it to traffic and rape others. This shit continued into her early adult years until she finally fled to Scotland. Prior to fleeing to Scotland, she even gave birth to a child of one of her rapists, who also married her under Sharia law, where she was not allowed to do anything and was beaten daily. This poor girl's womb was so broken that her child was born with many issues. This poor girl went through hell. And this is just a light overview. The public thought of these girls as prostitutes. They thought these girls wanted this shit. These were kids that were seriously taken advantage of and then let down by a fucking system that was supposed to protect them. And why? Because people in the system didn't want to be fucking racist. And if you don't believe that's the case, I highly encourage you to read this report or at least stay with me to the end. Now here's the older millennium giving you just one of many gruesome stories and horrible shit that Chloe went through. And and how I just can't understand how the adults fail these poor girls. I just I can't can't wrap my head around that's about three minutes long. And how would you say that? View of discretion is advised. Jason: Yeah. Bryan: And you know it's fucked up if I remember correctly. I think that was the first time Chloe might have been raped. Pretty sick. Now, I I I can't prove that this is right or not, but Stomer did step down as prime minister this past Monday. Kind of a coincidence, this report comes out and he steps down. Not saying it's it's ⁓ it's all connected, but it's kind of a quinky dink, right? Jason: Mm. Mm-hmm. I told you man, ⁓ I guarantee there's a bunch of payoffs going on. Bryan: And all these victims went through fucking absolute hell. Jason: Yeah. Bryan: Okay. Well, all these stories need to be heard, and I encourage all of you to read this report or at least dig into it a little bit, you know. ⁓ it would take us hours upon hours to go through this report fully. And we're gonna go over a few more and then ⁓ I wanna go through some quotes that were published from these hearings. Again, these kids were failed at all levels. They were treated as prostitutes. As if they wanted this shit. They were fucking groomed for an early from an early age. They were taught that this awful shit was somehow normal. This shit can happen anywhere, especially when you support systems fail you at every turn. And this shit can easily happen here. And stay with me, because we're gonna take this shit full circle. Alright. For now, we're gonna talk about Sally. Sally was a mother of a victim. ⁓ Sally had a stable working class family until housing problems hit. They lost the house they were buying, lived in temporary rundown housing for 10 months with four kids, which caused stress, arguments, involvement from police and social services. After leaving school at 16, her daughter went to a party and was found laying on the pavement making awful noises. And saying not to touch her. Mom took her to a hospital. The daughter told nurses she had been sexually assaulted. Hospital notes showed swollen and red genital injuries. Police were told, but the girl later withdrew her statement after receiving threats on Snapchat. Later on, there were more signs. She worked at a pub, care home, and nightclub. She started coming home with cuts, bruises, a black eye. Her phone kept ringing with calls from Asian men. And she tried to hide it. The nightclub staff protected her by not letting her work alone because Asian men kept harassing her. One gave her a gold chain. I forgot to cover something. I learned this in the interview that I watched the author of a report. He had stated that they were called Asians in these reports because if Muslim was offensive. And basically they were they they're trying to hide the the the fact that these were Muslim gangs, you know? Why? Because they want to protect the vote. All right. And they want to protect their political support. And technically they're not lying because Pakistan is geographically South Asia. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: So that's why they call them Asian, based off of what the author said. All right. I just thought I'd say that because I didn't want to confuse people because now you're hearing Asian and Muslim. That's that's the reason why. All right. At 18, she suddenly left home with all her stuff, ignored calls, and told people her stepdad was harming her, which wasn't true. Her mom tracked her down and found her with police reporting a rape. Police saw hundreds of messages from Asian men on her phone and thought she was being groomed, yet again nothing was done. Over the next year, Sally reported her daughter missing 39 times. She was found in different towns, often beaten, bruised, drunk on drugs without any underwear, and needing hospital treatment. Some police referred to her as a trafficking victim. Other police didn't believe her. Some police arrested her, seized her phone, and thought she was lying or mentally ill and causing self-harm to herself. Her daughter later said she lied and ran away to protect her family. The abusers threatened to harm her brother, rape her sister, and firebomb her house if she didn't obey. After one bad incident where she found ⁓ was found badly injured in a field with head wounds and a severed finger and multiple cuts, she posted on Facebook saying she was a victim of grooming gangs. The post went viral. Police arrested her in thirty minutes and she went to prison. Sally's daughter was convicted of perverting the course of justice and sentenced to eight years in prison for lying about being replaced. Police had privately acknowledged grooming. Her daughter later died by suicide. The family faced ongoing harassment and threats, especially one Muslim man. Police didn't protect them properly. Sally believes her daughter was vulnerable, groomed, and terrified, and that the system failed her again by punishing her instead of helping her. That's Sally's story. Fucking went to jail. Jason: She was the victim and she went to jail. So I mean I I don't want to keep sounding like I'm echoing here or repeating myself, but it's you can't they're turning a blind eye to it, Brian. I mean, it's it's not like they don't know. Like they're not being told. They're not that it the b things are being reported. I mean the medical facility, like the the the ⁓ Sally earlier, not trying to bring her back into ⁓ not Sally, but Chloe. How how does the hospital if that happened over here, you wanna believe that nurses and doctors would not let that girl out of that place until it's handled and they would protect her? Bryan: No Yeah, Chloe. Exactly. You'd want to That that's the that's that's what hurts me the most. Jason: And these pe these people are just letting them right back out. They're just letting them back out. Like, get out there, whore. Bryan: That means they all had to be on the take or something. That's what hurts me the most, is no one, everyone is there to fucking protect them. Did not protect them. Jason: Dude. Woo. Maybe that's hey, maybe that's why y the United Kingdom that that's why Europe wasn't scared of a nuke from Iran. Bryan: Was a Jason: I don't well remember we were sitting there saying why are we the only ones concerned about them having one? You think Europe would get involved if they were nervous? They're barred off. They're barred off. Bryan: ⁓ Because they already being controlled? It's possible, dude. Jason: By the Muslims. I mean, the Muslims are taking over. They're already dude, they got him on video saying that they're gonna take over America. Bryan: Not doubting it. And we we're gonna talk about that in the next episode. I'm glad you feel that way. Jason: I I'm I'm but what I and it's not a racist thing. I'm not like ⁓ screw them. No. This is what happens. Bryan: It's not. It's not racist at all. All right. Jason: You don't I I ain't heard blacks in this, I haven't heard Mexicans, Hispanics Bryan: No, it's white girls and Muslims. Jason: No, I'm I'm talking Muslims. I'm not talking Yeah, no, the the the the the ⁓ perpetrators. Bryan: ⁓ the victims. Yeah, yeah, Muslims. All Muslims. All ⁓ yeah, you're right, there's no other race, it's just Muslims. In in in a western country. It's not like these girls ⁓ yeah, it's not like these white girls in their country. This is in you know yeah. Jason: Yes. Yes. Not in their country. They went to other countries and they're they're they're putting their own spin on your country. Bryan: Yeah, a lot of these girls were forcefully converted to Islam, like this next girl, Jen. They ⁓ we're gonna talk about Jen next. ⁓ she was forcibly converted to Islam, put through a Sharia law marriage, and had a daughter repeatedly taken to Iraq by the abuser. She now lives with complex PTSD and constant fear of her daughter's safety. Jason: Continue on. As sad as it is, continue. Bryan: At age seventeen, Jen was introduced to a gang of Iraqi Kurdish Muslim men by a friend who she now believes was herself groom. The gang members, all of whom were illegal migrants, trafficked Jin to numerous towns and cities across the Midlands where she was raped by multiple men at what was described as parties. On one occasion, she was annually raped in a park. by one gang member. She was even taken on drug runs. She describes a closed and intimidating social world governed by fear, loyalty, and silence, in which racially supremacist attitudes were openly and regularly expressed. White British people were described as white trash And white girls as English pig dogs. Perpetrators insisted that children choose exploitation. And Britain and his institutions were described as soft and easy to exploit. They boasted of receiving free money from the British state, and on multiple occasions, Jen was forced to fill in asylum benefit applications on their behalf. Sounds like some of the shit going on over here. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: So that's why I put Jen in there because she admits that these people were exploiting the British government just like they do here. Just like they take fucking our welfare and our food stamps and our free money. You know, we're soft. I've been saying that. We we we're fucking soft. Yeah, what'd you yeah. Jason: Yeah. What are you gonna do about it? Bryan: Alright, let's talk about Kate. Kate was abused for over a decade. This shit started with a blackmail video from a very first assault. The men used racist and religious insults, calling her a white slag, mocking her Christian faith, and saying white Christian girls were worthless. There were repeated failures by authorities. Police pressured twelve year old Kate to withdraw her rape complaint and threaten to arrest her if any detail was wrong. When explicit messages and missing episodes were reported, professionals assumed she was choosing it and engaging consensually. Social services, school, care homes, and college often didn't believe her, closed cases or provided no real protection. Even when she was found injured or disclosed trafficking, little action was taken. On one occasion, Kate was taken by her abusers from an area close to the university. They told her she was gone she was in trouble because she had not been available for jobs. She wasn't available because she was in the fucking hospital. She was transported to a remote location and held in a caravan for approximately nine days. During this period, she reports that she was subjected to repeated sexual violence, severe physical assaults, and sustained torture, including ⁓ being by a dog as men placed bets on whether the dog would penetrate her vagina or her ass. They filmed this and forced her to watch the footage. This was the most extreme and prolonged incident she's experienced and represented a significant escalation in the level of harm and control being exerted over her. The duration, isolation, and intensity of the abuse during this period had a lasting and profound effect on her physical and psychological well-being. I want to say something that I learned from ⁓ the report the author of the report said in the interview. ⁓ He said that one of the gang members was looking at Kate directly in the eyes while this was going on. And he wanted to see Kate break. And then Kate broke. While she was getting fucked by a dog. That's what this dude was doing. Jason: That's disgusting, man. Bryan: We don't I'm telling ya, i if if if we keep being soft and worried about being racist when we're trying to do what's right, this shit's gonna happen here. This is fucking awful. And I want people to hear this shit. Even Jason: This is what politically correct gets you. Bryan: Exactly where it gets you. All right. Let's see what Wallace went through. Here's Wallace's story. Wallace grew up in Scotland in a poor, unstable home. His mom had mental health and drug problems, emotionally abused him, and often failed to protect him. Different adult men were always around. He was told to call them dad or uncle, which made it seem normal. His earliest memory of abuse was as age four or five. An adult man got into his bed at night. The main abusers was his mom's partner and the partner's brother who were part of a local biker group. He was taken to a dark house with candles where several men sat watching. He was taken into a bedroom, held down and raped. Afterwards the abuser acted like it was completely normal. Wallace asked for a toy and got a cheat one. He realized even then it was no real compensation. This pattern happened multiple times. He saw other boys and girls who were there tied up and drugged. Wallace was also drugged and would wake up confused and upset. He also stated that he would be put in a punishment room with a dog crate like enclosures, and he witnessed another child being burned with an iron and later killed. During a police raid on the house, Officers showed him the men one by one, next if he knew them. He had been coached to say that they was his uncles, so that's what he said. The police did nothing to protect him. They were sent straight back with the abusers. When he finally found the courage to report the childhood rape years later as an adult, police treated his disclosure as a mental health problem instead of a crime. They asked For psychiatric notes before they would even investigate properly. His statements were wrongly recorded. He made complaints to the police and other watchdogs. Everything was slow, difficult, made him relive the trauma over and over while he while being met with disbelief and skepticism. No one seemed to care about his well being. The abuse left him with serious lifelong psychological harm. It affected his education, relationships, self worth, and sense of safety. He wants his abusers and the authorities who failed him to be held accountable, and he hopes sharing his story helps protect other children. Four or five years old. Jason: That's disgusting, dude. How old is he now? Bryan: ⁓ he's an adult now. I don't know. About Fiona. Abuse began in a children's home that was already known to be high risk. She was raped by dozens of men and forced to clean up after stabbings. At age 14, she was subjected to extreme sexual torture by a man named, well, he was nicknamed Rambo. He had a history of serious violence. Rambo was an illegal immigrant from Pakistan. This man. had already been castrated for abusing kids in Pakistan. She was locked in a room with this motherfucker. He tortured her and another girl with extreme sexual violence. And she says this was more about control and a mut ⁓ humiliation than anything else. I mean he can't get off. He ain't got no nuts. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: Police sometimes warned the men with official notices but did nothing more. When a mom reported her mission and mentioned Asian men, the the other person on the call, the call handler said that it was racist to call them Asian men. And she should be glad her daughter was ⁓ she should be glad her daughter was and get this shit learning a new fucking culture. Jason: Now you j right there, hold up, just halt. When you're getting told that, you know they're in on it. Bryan: That's fucked up. Yeah. Jason: They ain't trying to act stupid. They're telling her to shut the hell up. Yeah y ⁓ boy. All right, keep going. Bryan: All right, just still with Fiona. One officer actually dropped her back off at the Buse's house and told the men to have fun with her. Another time, police basically told the gang that if they got Fiona to sign herself out of the care, they'd leave them alone. She became pregnant at fifteen, the baby was removed while she remained in the dangerous environment. She later developed psychosis and took a blade to her legs after her abusers complimented them. She carved up her fucking legs because she was receiving compliments about how good they look from her abusers. You know how much that you had to hate yourself to do that? In this report, it seemed that the care homes were becoming trafficking hubs. And it was re a recurring theme throughout this whole report. ⁓ but Fiona's case is especially stark because staff openly allowed men to wait outside and collect her and other girls. Jason: Yeah. Bryan: I hope anyone that's listening or watching this shit is pissed the fuck off. Jason: And it it may have already started over here or it's gonna start over here, one of the two. Bryan: And these poor girl Yeah, I mean these girls had n no chance. Jason: Because we're allowing it. No. Bryan: So, Michelle, what stands out in her case is the massive scale of abuse. She was groomed from the age of 13. She became pregnant four times as a child. She had miscarriages, one forced abortion, and one baby. And she described the gangs as operating on an industrial scale with a national network. Now, this challenges the idea that these were all just small local groups. It raises questions about how. such large numbers of men could operate with such little interference. We know wild that, huh? She estimates she was raped by six hundred to seven hundred different men over three years. All right, so so if this shit started when she was thirteen and she was raped over three years, that means she was this abuse occurred From the age of thirteen, sixteen, maybe seventeen, to be a whatever works out of it. You know, well think about that. This little girl was fucking raped by roughly two hundred and thirty five men a fucking year. Maybe it's three hundred and sixty five days in a year. That's fucking unreal. And that's just different men. No telling how many times these same fucking pieces of shit raped her. Jason: Yeah. Just nonstop. Bryan: Fucking awful, man. I don't think prostitutes fucked up many people. Jason: No, and now I I was gonna bring that up too. A lot of us see prostitutes, the women of the streets or women of the night or whatever you want to call ⁓ walking around and we feel like that they're making a choice to do that. I I don't see it that way. These girls on OnlyFans and this other crap, they're that's that's a choice. They're making that choice because they want money. Easy money playing off of sick people, right? Dudes that'll pay for that shit. These girls work in the street, they've been groomed, they've been manipulated. You know what I'm saying? And we just turn a blind eye to it and say how disgusting. They they deserve it. Whatever happens to them, they deserve it. And that's our mentality. Bryan: ⁓ actually Y you know I've been working on ⁓ child exploitation a lot, you know. And in doing that you come across prostitute information. And I seen it's the blade in in Arizona and is the blade it's what they call the blade is the the street where the prostitutes at and there's one in LA and that's what they talk about a lot of trafficking and stuff. And I wanna get to that one day, but you're right. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: I mean a lot of those people are trafficked. And it's fucking awful. Jason: Mm. Yeah. They didn't just be sitting at home one day saying, You know what? Nah, I think I'm gonna go work the streets. I heard it's good out there. Benefits are real good. Health insurance, four ⁓ one K. Bryan: It's ⁓ Yeah. Yeah. Jason: There ain't d I guarante I guarantee ninety nine point nine percent of all prostitutes out there on the streets right now in the United States are not there on their own will. Bryan: Let's go back. Where's those kids white privilege? All right. For the sake of time, I I'm ⁓ I'm gonna make the I made the other ones a little shorter because I wanna get to some quotes too. But ⁓ I think y'all can understand what was going on, right? I mean these kids were getting abused. So we'll talk about Whitney. Whitney herself was groomed and abused as a teenager, but luckily Whitney's uncle stepped in and saved her. But years later, her own daughter was also exploited, self-harming at eleven, coerced into sending sexual images and repeatedly going missing. This is one of the clearest examples of intergenerational trauma and how the system failed to break the cycle even when a parent was actually trying to help. Marlin was a protective parent that was actively undermined by social services. Marlin repeatedly reported, his daughter missed it and tried to stop her leaving. Social Services told his daughter she could leave home and call them if he tried to stop her. His daughter was later abused in care placements, including by staff. And he was blamed rather than supported. Anna, after being raped at thirteen, a video was used to blackmail her. She was later forced in Syria Law Style marriage. During the trial of her rapist, the perpetrators openly intimidated her in court with no consequences. One of the Muslim ladies sat right behind her and was taunting her. Taylor, what stood out about Taylor's story is she was raped by multiple men per night. She estimates she was abused by around a hundred men total and was sometimes passed between up to ten men in a night. Gang use common tactic of taxis, picking up drunk girls, pretending to stop at a shop, then abandoning they will abandon them. So another man would come in to rescue them and exploit them. So basically another taxi would pull up, and the girls, which were likely higher intoxicated, would just get in the taxi, you know, because the taxi that dropped them off. And there they were offer another raping. They report how all of the taxis are communicating and it's all planned and well-timed. The taxi method was a key logistical tool for many gangs. Taylor's case shows just how organized and efficient the trafficking networks were. Jane, she came from a ⁓ relatively stable home, but was trafficked from a care placement in into a flat with Somali men and forced into sex with multiple men. She developed a severe eating disorder, and this counters the stereotype that only vulnerable or chaotic background children are targeted. It also shows how care placements became gateways for further abuse. Leanne, she was abused from infancy in some accounts, trafficked, subject to extreme violence, including penetration with objects. She became pregnant at fifteen. She now suffers from chronic fibromyalgia linked to trauma. The long term physical health consequences, not just psychological, are often under discussed. Lily was one of the early victims. Her abuse occurred in the 1970s, 1980s. Staff in children's homes abused children and handed them to the taxi drivers. A social worker sexually abused her sister and later married her. She was gang draped at 14 after returning from care. This older case shows the problem existed long before the 2000s and involved direct abuse by people in positions of trust. Staff and social workers. Grace, she came from a stable home. After years of abuse, she later watched her own children being abused by a pedophile partner connected to grooming networks. She is still stalked to this day. Grooming can affect any background, and the trauma can extend into the next generation. Rachel. Her twelve year old autistic daughter was raped, relentlessly bullied. There was filmed assaults shared online, and discouraged from pursuing ⁓ justice. She died by overdose. Rachel believes the grooming, bullying, and system failures directly caused her daughter's death. This is a powerful and tragic example of how failure to protect can have fatal consequences. Had enough yet. Jason: I'm sure there's more. Bryan: ⁓ I got some quotes I wanna go over. You got anything to say? Jason: No, I mean a few things take my ⁓ thoughts away and my ability to talk and this is one of ⁓ It's just I'm engaged. I'm yeah, I mean I'm I'm I'm infuriated by this. It's Bryan: It's disgusting. should be. Everybody should be. And I want you all to remember where I'm going. If you was in the first episode, I started with being white and not being able to, you know, say that you're proud of your heritage and we're the only ones that can't be proud to be white. And that makes people cower because if you if you say something against another race, you're racist automatically just because you disagreed with them. And these people Jason: Yeah. Bryan: don't want to be racist and these girls are getting harmed and violated. That's the problem. That's the whole fucking problem. The Sikh people, like I said earlier, they had the same problem. They came together as a community and stopped that shit. So the Sikh people wasn't seen as racist when they stopped them from fucking with their kids. But the white people didn't want to be racist. And what I really pisses me off even more than this, and I don't know. Jason: Uh-huh. Bryan: How much money these families had, but I'm just judging by them the kids always having to go to care homes and all that stuff. They wasn't fucking rich people. They were poor people. And that's the other reason why they probably didn't give a shit about ⁓ Because they would just pull white trash to the politicians and to the rich people. So just fucking let ⁓ go. You know? When we say white privilege, yes, I'm not gonna argue that there are people in this world and in our country that have been privileged because of the color of their skin and their fucking rich uncle or whatnot, and they got everything they fucking wanted and they got, you know, streamlined to the front. I'm not gonna argue with anybody about that shit. I know that shit's there. Majority of white people have no motherfucking privilege. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: Yeah. None. They rich people look at me as white trash and I fucking love it. I am white trash. Fuck them. I don't need their fucking approval. I don't. Never did. Jason: We wear that proudly. Bryan: You're damn right. No. No, I I got that woo sa ⁓ fuck, man. Alright, let's go over some quotes. This one kinda gets me. Alright, so first quote. It was all the white girls in every home that I went to. And I mean, I've seen girls locked. I remember a man opening the back of a van, and I saw maybe fifteen to twenty girls locked in dog cages, look like they were on drugs. End quote. Next one. On one occasion, I went there with my friend. We were given bottles of red wine. After being forced to have sex with between 15 and 20 men, my friend became violently ill from the alcohol. I took her home to avoid her parents seeing the state she was in. My own parents called police, but they were not interested in pursuing what had happened. End quote. Next one. When the restaurant closed, he took me to where the tables were stored and we had sex. Immediately afterwards, all the restaurant workers entered the area. Rape gang member. Held me down while they each had sex with me, laughing during the assault. Later in the car, he insulted me and called me derogatory names, blaming me for what he had forced me into. Next one. On one occasion I woke up to find rape gang member. Now you gotta remember these names are redacted. That's why I'm reading it that way. On one occasion I awoke to find rape gang member and rape gang member, both having sex with me. Drinking became my way of coping. At school I was mocked and humiliated by peers. I would cry privately pretend but pretend at school that I found it funny. Even making crude jokes to fit in. Even my friends believed I was consenting. So even her friends thought she was a prostitute, no whore. Jason: Yes. Bryan: Next one. But at the age of, I think I was 16, 17, they said to me at the sexual health clinic, and I was checked out, I was diagnosed with polycystic ovaries. And they said the chances of me ever having a child were very, very slim because of what I've been through. They said because of the chlamydia, because of the state of my ovaries and because of my pelvic inflammatory disease, I had very bad environment in there, basically. That wouldn't probably hold a child. Next one. I got beatings all the time whilst I was in children's home. Lots and lots of beatings because I was telling the police. I was beaten to the point where I got an aneurysm. My hair fell out. If it wasn't me, it was someone else. is a rape gang survivor. I disclosed directly to staff at the children's home what was happening to me, including the sexual exploitation, the repeated trips to flats, the involvement of adult men, the exchange of money, and the reasons for my rapid and dangerous weight loss. I explained that I was frightened and felt trapped. I was told words to the effect that this is n this did not constitute trafficking, that I was over sixteen And that what was happening was a matter of choice. Police were not contacted at that stage and no immediate protective s action was taken. So, rape gang member is like, do you want me want to kiss me? And I'm like, no, not really. He's like, right, okay, we can get it on. I was like, no. I said I'm on my period. That was the first thing that came to mind. I wasn't. But that wasn't my first, but that was my first excuse. He's like, okay, it doesn't matter. So I was like, no, no, no, pushing them away. And he pulled my legs forward. So that I was almost laid, like slouched. And he pushed me back and he pulled my pants down, got on top of me and raped me. I was saying no. I was kicking at the same time. I was twelve years old. This guy just, so I can say this clearly, was taken to trial and caught. He was put on a retrial and he walked away. He's now walking the streets. Inquiry panelists. Were there any objects that they raped you with? Rape gang survivor. Coca-Cola bottles? Keys for some reason. Somebody tried to put a baseball bat up there. Panelist. Do you think they were doing this doing these things for sexual gratification? Survivor. It's about harm. They don't care. They don't care about you. They usually try to do these things after they've done the sexual bit. that they wanted to do. Once they finished, that's it. They can do whatever they want to you. That's how it seemed. Next one. You good? Jason: ⁓ I'm Bryan: I remember the first time I was taken into the sexual health clinic by my social worker. She walked me in and there she walked me in there and it turned out that I had chlamydia in my throat and vagina. I had also had gonorrhea at that time. At the same time, they also diagno diagnosed me with genital watts. And then a few months later, I was taken back again. I was diagnosed with chlamydia again. gonorrhea again, but this time it was also a pelvic inflammatory disease. Never once did any nurse or doctor question any of that. When I was fifteen, they trafficked me to Birmingham. I walked into a bathroom in the flat and there was a dead girl in the bath. I grew up in a middle class house with two parents that had been married for a considerable time. And I think that's quite important because most of the time the idea is that the grooming gang's victims are in the care or their runaways or they're from general lower class backgrounds. And I say this to just defeat the presumption that it's only vulnerable or stereotypical vulnerable girl that can be groomed. Because the perpetrators are insidious and they'll target anyone. And they'll find weakness or vulnerability anywhere. I want the institutions to say, you know what? We hold our heads up. We want we hold our hands up. We believe you and we're sorry. I gave up getting justice a long time ago. But just for it to be recognized and believed, that's all I want. When you're being told that you're a liar for such a long time, you begin to believe it. I suppose. I just want someone to say, do you know what? We messed up. We failed in our duty to protect you and we're sorry and we're going to learn from this. The worst people that exist in this situation, apart from the perpetrators or the horrendous of the of that horrendous abuse, are the people that sat in those positions within those authorities that had every opportunity to do something about it and chose not to. And when you do that over several decades, then it results in situations like this. And that's how that has thrived. And that's how, and that is how that culture has. It's how it was born. It's how it's thrived. It's how it's surviving. And it's how it will continue. That ain't no joke. It started when I was thirteen. I was raped by probably six, seven hundred different men over three years. Inquiry pan ⁓ inquiry panelists. Did the NHS play a part? And were you able to talk to them? I went when I was thirteen with chlamydia and then I got genital herpes and then I had a miscarriage. And that was all between thirteen and fifteen. So they knew something was going on. I did go once and I explained to the doctor because I was like, Can you give me some antidepressants or something? And the doctor said, Well, I don't think that's a warrant, I don't think that's a warrant enough to give you those when you're too young. Then HS is complicit. Yeah. You can get all fucked up. You can get you we can't give you no antidepressants to handle it. I just keep drinking your alcohol, taking drugs. You'll be fine. Jason: Self medicate. Bryan: Rape gang survivor. The gangs are untouchable, they are, because nobody wants to admit that there's a problem. Because they don't want to be deemed as racist. And also because it goes higher up than they it goes higher up and they don't want it to be blown apart. Blown blown open. I'm sorry. That's probably the fucking truest one right there. They are untouchable. Nobody wants to admit that there's a problem. Because they don't want to be seen as racist and they don't want this shit to get blown wide open and just show everybody just like that in case. I remember being with my friend and she lived in the children's home and they would come and pick us up from outside. And then the care home would ring the police and obviously tell them. And then the police would come out and they would call us prostitutes. I don't think the services, even down to social services, I don't think they really cared. I think they had the same thought as most other people that we were prostitutes and we wanted it. I don't think they saw it how it really was, that it was grooming and rape. They blamed us for it. It was our choice. It wasn't just rape. It was violence as well. I've had a gun held to my head. I've been beaten so that I'm literally covered head to toe in bruises. That was when I was spiked, when I was drugged. I've had a knife to my at my throat because he wanted me to sort out fifty ten to fifteen cars full of men. I'd get kidnapped. I don't think people realize I think they think it's rape, but it was torture as well. I'd be kidnapped and I'd be locked in a room and I'd be beaten. I'd be told if I don't do this, I'm not going home. So it was a lot more than just rape. I was beaten black and blue, raped. Not only sexually raped with their body parts themselves, but with objects as well. There was an incident. I was taken to a hospital. It's not even my not it's not even in my medical records. I was taken to A and E because my vagina was split open from a glass bottle. I just wanted to stop and not happen to any other children and for people to actually act and do something and stop being so scared. Inquiry panelists. How many different men do you think raped you over the period over that period when you were sixteen? Rape gang survivor, about a hundred. Panelists. When you were sixteen years old, survivor. Yes. She was raped by a hundred people in sixteen. Rape Gang Survivor. It was just getting like more and more nonstop phone calls. Everyone knew who I was. I couldn't walk down the street without cars pulling up, just saying, get in now. Inquiry panelists. And what would happen when you'd get in the car? Survivor. They'd just take off to a house or wherever. And that's when the bad stuff would happen. Panelists, they'd rape you. Survivor. Yeah. They wouldn't take no for an answer. It was on a daily basis. It was like you'd be in one car and then you'd get a phone call. You better come and meet me now. So you'd get out of that one car and you'd be in the next car and then the next car. So it was about ten in one night. I feel sick knowing that it's still going on, that nobody wanting to do anything about it even now in 2026. We're still having this conversation. We're still trying to get people to talk about it. That's all quotes. I know that was hard to hear. And a lot of people don't want to hear that shit. And These girls went through a lot worse than we what we just listened to. You know what I'm saying? They went through a lot. And they still haven't to live with that shit. You know? A lot of ⁓ probably still haven't got proper care. A lot of them even haven't came forward. I couldn't find, you know, how many they actually lost. I know we had some that committed suicide, but I'm imagining a lot of them, you know, didn't make it. Two hundred and fifty thousand girls. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: Say what, maybe five percent at and that's being conservative, probably either committed suicide or were killed. Jason: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Bryan: Pretty sick. And to do something in that large of a capacity, people fucking knew. People fucking knew. Jason: Mm-hmm. Yep. That wasn't going on with without everybody being involved in it some way. ⁓ hush money. Bryan: Yeah, that that that is just fucked up. And I I wanted to give this one a complete segment because I wanted it to breathe. You know? I want people to hear it. It's it's a lot. I know it's a lot. I hope y'all understand this story. I hope you pissed off. That's what I really hope. I hope you're mad. Cause you we we we need to wake up what's inside of us. You know? We have to wake that up. And I don't want people to be just angry all the time. But you gotta wake up what's right. And you can get angry about what's right. There's no reason not to. We get angry about somebody driving too slow in front of us. You know? We get angry about the simplest shit every day. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: But it's too hard for us to hear shit like this and just be angry and wanna to figure out why. Why is this shit happening? It's happening because we're turning a blind eye to it. They're turning a blind eye to it. It doesn't affect us. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: But it will. But keep going this way, it will. Jason: Mm-hmm. Bryan: Alright, that'll do it for part two of this episode. I I know it's dark. but again, I think it needs to be discussed. I mean, if you don't shed light on shit like this, people, you know never understand the evil that's out there. All right, please join us for part three where I'm gonna tie all this shit in with our political landscape in the United States. Jason, you got in there? Jason: Nope. Pretty rough. Bryan: Not Thanks everyone for joining us tonight. It was a pleasure spending time with you. Until next time, this is the Sense of Senseless Podcast. I'm Brian. He's Jason. Peace. Jason: I'm Jason. Peace.