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- 0:00Speaker 1: Right now, we continue Luke Keighley Appreciation Week with the
- 0:03Speaker 1: guy that works with him many Sundays on the Panther
- 0:05Speaker 1: Radio Network. And I know he's a guy that would
- 0:09Speaker 1: have had a headache or two bone if he would
- 0:11Speaker 1: have been going head to head against Luke Keigley when
- 0:14Speaker 1: they play. We're talking about Jake Delome of your Carolina Panthers,
- 0:19Speaker 1: an absolute legend in his own right, and he joins
- 0:22Speaker 1: us here to talk about Luke and of course the
- 0:24Speaker 1: twenty twenty six Panthers. Jake, what's going on? How you doing, man?
- 0:28Speaker 2: I'm doing great, guys. I can feel the excitement in
- 0:32Speaker 2: your guys boys for the season coming up, and I
- 0:35Speaker 2: feel the same way. And I think certainly this weekend,
- 0:38Speaker 2: you know, with Luke being inducted, And yeah, I did
- 0:41Speaker 2: not play with him, and I knew him very little
- 0:45Speaker 2: when he was playing here because I wasn't really around
- 0:48Speaker 2: getting to know him the last few years. I would
- 0:51Speaker 2: like to say, pretty darn well, Yeah, anything that's said
- 0:55Speaker 2: about him, it could be multiplied times ten, because what
- 0:59Speaker 2: he was on the field, he's probably better than that off.
- 1:02Speaker 1: The field, and and everybody says that, and it's sincere.
- 1:06Speaker 1: You can tell and Jake, have you said.
- 1:08Speaker 3: That about you? Also? Ja, we said in the show today, Yeah, you're.
- 1:12Speaker 1: You're like you guys both kind of seem like regular guys,
- 1:15Speaker 1: even though you did these special things. Do you is
- 1:18Speaker 1: as far as being like a Hall of Famer, an
- 1:20Speaker 1: absolute superstar, I can't imagine there's as many as humble
- 1:24Speaker 1: as Luke. Like he doesn't even feel comfortable. That's why
- 1:27Speaker 1: I can't wait to see the speech. Like he doesn't
- 1:30Speaker 1: even feel comfortable talking about himself. You know, he's so humble.
- 1:33Speaker 2: No, he does it and uh, he always wants to
- 1:36Speaker 2: deflect to someone else. And even you see it. And
- 1:40Speaker 2: I'll say it again, and I've said it many times.
- 1:43Speaker 2: When we go on the field before the game, we
- 1:45Speaker 2: make a couple of trips up and down from the
- 1:47Speaker 2: booth and we always go watch the other team warm
- 1:50Speaker 2: warm up in the Flesh film is one thing, but
- 1:53Speaker 2: just seeing them move body types, things of that nature.
- 1:55Speaker 2: I want to see arm lengths, I want to see
- 1:57Speaker 2: how they set things like that. We're both that way.
- 2:00Speaker 2: It's amazing that the players from the other teams they
- 2:05Speaker 2: go up to him and it's in reverential terms. It's
- 2:08Speaker 2: almost like the genuflected in front of them and they're like,
- 2:10Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I still watch film. And then guys
- 2:13Speaker 2: in street cloths like guys that are inactive are practice
- 2:16Speaker 2: squad guys. Oh my gosh, I watched film leading up
- 2:19Speaker 2: to the combine on you I want it's it's unreal.
- 2:21Speaker 2: And he just never wants to talk about himself. He
- 2:24Speaker 2: was like, well, good, how you doing, man, how's everything?
- 2:26Speaker 2: You know, he wants to deflect it immediately. But that's
- 2:29Speaker 2: the impact that I think he had on the game
- 2:31Speaker 2: that I don't unders think people truly understand is that
- 2:35Speaker 2: he is still studied to this day by all these
- 2:37Speaker 2: young players and they continuously talk about him and that's
- 2:40Speaker 2: the standard. Yeah.
- 2:42Speaker 4: Jack.
- 2:42Speaker 5: When I asked to him on the show this week,
- 2:44Speaker 5: he didn't tell me that he was too busy going
- 2:47Speaker 5: into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Luke told me
- 2:49Speaker 5: that he's busy coaching the kids up, the high school kids.
- 2:52Speaker 4: So it wasn't a Baut's true, like, it's it's a
- 2:57Speaker 4: he just like when we'll talk on the phone and
- 2:59Speaker 4: we talk a lot and a lots during the season,
- 3:02Speaker 4: and he'll start talking about his games, coaching the kids
- 3:05Speaker 4: and things like that.
- 3:06Speaker 2: He just he loved it. He just wants to pour
- 3:08Speaker 2: everything into him, into the kids.
- 3:10Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome, man, And that's one of the things
- 3:13Speaker 1: about him. He was such an awesome player. But man,
- 3:15Speaker 1: like you said, fans and Panther Nation are in love
- 3:19Speaker 1: with with him as a as a person as well.
- 3:22Speaker 1: When you're sitting up there in the booth and you're
- 3:24Speaker 1: talking ball, whether it's on the air during a game,
- 3:26Speaker 1: whether it's you know, before the game, like, how apparent
- 3:30Speaker 1: is it talking to this dude that, Oh my god,
- 3:33Speaker 1: this is one because I know a lot of times
- 3:35Speaker 1: y'all quarterbacks maybe think those defensive guys aren't as sharp
- 3:38Speaker 1: as you. I'm not sure any quarterback ever thought that
- 3:40Speaker 1: about Luke Man.
- 3:41Speaker 3: He was. He was. He was playing chess, wasn't he.
- 3:45Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. And his like formation recognition and how
- 3:50Speaker 2: he can pick up everything's formation wise and you know,
- 3:53Speaker 2: like offensively. For me, when I watch film on the defense,
- 3:56Speaker 2: I'm looking at obviously the whole structure and you kind
- 3:59Speaker 2: of know the distances, what a team tendency is, what
- 4:02Speaker 2: they like to do, and so you have that as
- 4:04Speaker 2: you build up your game plan through the course of
- 4:06Speaker 2: the week. Well, he was so good at recognizing formations
- 4:10Speaker 2: and things of that nature. And hey, they like doing
- 4:12Speaker 2: this out of the backs off set, be careful of this,
- 4:15Speaker 2: and he's gonna go to a guard set or a
- 4:17Speaker 2: tackle set and watch kind of how they're set in
- 4:21Speaker 2: their stance. It's pretty remarkable, just his recall and what
- 4:25Speaker 2: he can see and what he can do, and just
- 4:28Speaker 2: pattern recognition that he was able to do. Like you
- 4:31Speaker 2: go back to, everyone knows the two Tony Romo plays,
- 4:35Speaker 2: but the interception on things given night, you just watch him.
- 4:38Speaker 2: He's running up the scene with somebody, then realizes, Okay,
- 4:41Speaker 2: well I have a da coming in behind me, and
- 4:43Speaker 2: he lets the guy go and he goes right to
- 4:45Speaker 2: whether they's supposed to be in the ball, he catches
- 4:47Speaker 2: it right in front of his face. It's those things
- 4:49Speaker 2: that he could do so fast. And another thing we
- 4:52Speaker 2: probably don't talk about enough. He was so athletic. I mean,
- 4:55Speaker 2: I don't think he gets enough credit for quick and explosive.
- 4:59Speaker 2: When you watch those those films, he's backpedaling when he
- 5:02Speaker 2: puts his foot in the ground, it's immediate he's going
- 5:05Speaker 2: forward or he's going in the direction, and just it
- 5:08Speaker 2: was different, man, He was different Jake.
- 5:10Speaker 5: While we're excited to see we go to the Hall
- 5:13Speaker 5: of Fame. We saw Sam Mills, we saw pap We're
- 5:16Speaker 5: waiting for the day when eighty nine can get up
- 5:18Speaker 5: there as well Steve Smith and give what will likely
- 5:22Speaker 5: be an iconic Hall of Fame speech. Well, what do
- 5:25Speaker 5: you think about Smitty not getting in yet? And how
- 5:28Speaker 5: ridiculous do you think it is that he's having to
- 5:30Speaker 5: wait a little bit here?
- 5:31Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I'm certainly I'm very biased, I will say that.
- 5:37Speaker 2: And here's the thing that's that's so tough. I mean,
- 5:39Speaker 2: there seemed like there's been a log jam there that
- 5:43Speaker 2: they have you know, Tory Holt, you know, Reggie Wayne,
- 5:47Speaker 2: and then you had Smitty. It's like everybody that was
- 5:49Speaker 2: cannibalizing each other. And then Larry comes in and Larry
- 5:52Speaker 2: becomes a you know, a first ballot. So it's and
- 5:55Speaker 2: it's frustrating for me. I just know what Steve was
- 5:57Speaker 2: and then talking to other players, and he'ven tou coordinate
- 6:01Speaker 2: us throughout the years. The number one thing that they
- 6:03Speaker 2: that they had to do weekend and week out was
- 6:05Speaker 2: stop eighty nine. And the thing that I know that
- 6:09Speaker 2: I took, I don't want to say it was frustration
- 6:12Speaker 2: on steven I's part, but like we would play a
- 6:14Speaker 2: couple of games. We played Tampa one year, I think
- 6:16Speaker 2: it was eight or whatnot. I couldn't throw the ball
- 6:19Speaker 2: to him because they dedicated two people to stop him,
- 6:22Speaker 2: so he had to split in the corners on him,
- 6:24Speaker 2: and the safeties all the way outside the hash well,
- 6:26Speaker 2: the Angelo and Jonathan were just running it right at
- 6:28Speaker 2: him because we had a numbers advantage. Because Steve affected that,
- 6:31Speaker 2: and that doesn't show up in the stat sheet. The
- 6:33Speaker 2: same thing happened in Green Bay in two thousand and eight.
- 6:37Speaker 2: It wasn't that good of a game for him statistically,
- 6:39Speaker 2: but because it was so okay, he is not going
- 6:42Speaker 2: to beat us. And then what happens late in the game,
- 6:44Speaker 2: under two minutes, I hit him down the team and
- 6:46Speaker 2: he's able to run past all the guys he catches it,
- 6:49Speaker 2: we kick a field goal to win. Those are the
- 6:51Speaker 2: things that it goes unnoticed. And it's not what he
- 6:55Speaker 2: did on the field. Listen, if this guy would have
- 6:57Speaker 2: only been a kicking pun returner, he'd be the best
- 7:00Speaker 2: kicking punt returner there ever was. I mean, he did
- 7:02Speaker 2: it as a as a rookie in his second year.
- 7:04Speaker 2: He was in our third year Super Bowl. Yeah, he
- 7:06Speaker 2: was still returning kicks for touchdowns. The guy was just different.
- 7:10Speaker 2: I know I'm standing on the soap box and I
- 7:12Speaker 2: know I'm beating the drum for him, But the guy
- 7:15Speaker 2: was different than the other ones. That's just my opinion.
- 7:17Speaker 2: I don't think there's any doubt. When will he get in,
- 7:20Speaker 2: I don't know, but it definitely I feel I'm frustrated
- 7:23Speaker 2: for him and he's done. He's done the right thing
- 7:26Speaker 2: by taking him the high roll. But I promise he
- 7:28Speaker 2: was pretty frustrating for him too.
- 7:29Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't blame him.
- 7:30Speaker 1: We're frustrated too, because it's just I see these guys
- 7:34Speaker 1: that were great receivers, but I see them in offenses
- 7:37Speaker 1: that passed more, you know what I mean, whereas you
- 7:40Speaker 1: got it. Yeah, and I just know, man, he's better
- 7:43Speaker 1: than that guy, you know. I just feel that in
- 7:45Speaker 1: my heart. And I'm biased to, you know, being a
- 7:47Speaker 1: Panther fan. One other thing I got to ask you
- 7:49Speaker 1: about Smitty is we we played a clip earlier in
- 7:52Speaker 1: the week. It was Shannon Sharp's podcast. He had Jeremy
- 7:55Speaker 1: Shockey on and Shocky played with the Panthers for one
- 7:57Speaker 1: year and played with Smitty for one year, and they
- 8:00Speaker 1: were both talking about something that we always marveled at
- 8:02Speaker 1: the fact that this dude was five to nine but
- 8:05Speaker 1: would go up and get Pete for jump balls like
- 8:07Speaker 1: he was Randy Moss, like he was some six or
- 8:09Speaker 1: five receiver, and they were just freaking out over that Jake.
- 8:13Speaker 1: You would throw it up for him, man, and you
- 8:15Speaker 1: would trust him, like did you like, did it take
- 8:18Speaker 1: a while to trust like that little dude, He's gonna
- 8:22Speaker 1: go up and get like like that's that's I've never
- 8:24Speaker 1: seen a jump ball receiver at his size.
- 8:26Speaker 3: It was ridiculous, man.
- 8:28Speaker 2: So okay, I'll go back to O three and we're
- 8:30Speaker 2: splitting reps Rodney, Petechris Winky and myself because Rodney was
- 8:35Speaker 2: the establaged starter going into the year. And I remember
- 8:37Speaker 2: trying to throw some in routes right, so about eighteen
- 8:41Speaker 2: yard in route, and I could when when I think
- 8:45Speaker 2: it needs to let go, I let it go and
- 8:46Speaker 2: I would throw early with anticipation that hits the receiver
- 8:49Speaker 2: where he's supposed to be. Every time I would throw
- 8:51Speaker 2: it like Steve's catching it, but he's catching it behind
- 8:54Speaker 2: his body, and I'm like, Ibbi, damn, what am I doing?
- 8:59Speaker 2: And I never forget Rodney and Chris a lost back,
- 9:02Speaker 2: and I didn't know them well enough yet. It's early
- 9:04Speaker 2: in the springs and they both looked at me and
- 9:06Speaker 2: Rodney said, Jake, he said, he's not normal. I said,
- 9:09Speaker 2: what do you mean? He goes, there's no one with
- 9:12Speaker 2: the explosion out of his break like him. He goes, well,
- 9:15Speaker 2: you think you need to throw it in your mind,
- 9:17Speaker 2: go to yours further. And I really agree. I had
- 9:19Speaker 2: to kind of retrain my brain. And he and I
- 9:22Speaker 2: were both so wet behind the years that year. Yeah,
- 9:24Speaker 2: I was in my seventh year as my first year
- 9:26Speaker 2: starting well, he was in his third year, but really
- 9:29Speaker 2: and truly his first time as a full time wide receiver.
- 9:31Speaker 2: We grew together. We made mistakes together, but I was
- 9:35Speaker 2: able to kind of Dan Henning would say it best
- 9:38Speaker 2: guys with Steve Smith has he said, only the good
- 9:42Speaker 2: law can produce. He goes, he's just different. And we
- 9:45Speaker 2: had a we had three letters. We'd say all the time,
- 9:48Speaker 2: f t s and it will feed the studs. And
- 9:53Speaker 2: Dan was like, any time he's one on one or anything,
- 9:57Speaker 2: give him a chance and I mean, that's a exactly
- 10:00Speaker 2: kind of what we did. We gave him a chance,
- 10:02Speaker 2: and he made us right many more times than not.
- 10:05Speaker 5: I don't know if anyone's ever played a better game.
- 10:08Speaker 5: It took over a game at wide receiver more Jake
- 10:10Speaker 5: than you guys in that er five playoff game against
- 10:13Speaker 5: the Bears, considering dision, divisional round, the defense that the
- 10:18Speaker 5: Bears had that year, and what Smithy did to them
- 10:21Speaker 5: that day, I don't know if a receiver's ever had
- 10:23Speaker 5: a better day than that.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Yeah, that was special. You know, the first third down
- 10:28Speaker 2: of the game, we ran a play that was a
- 10:29Speaker 2: staple fifty hitch Oregon, and you know, you had Charles Tillman,
- 10:35Speaker 2: and usually there was if he was like six yards
- 10:38Speaker 2: or less, Steve would run the go. Well, if he's
- 10:40Speaker 2: had seven yards or more, he's going to run the hitch.
- 10:42Speaker 2: And you know, as he lined up, you know I
- 10:45Speaker 2: kind of glanced breaking the hudd offs. Okay, he's about seven,
- 10:48Speaker 2: we're gonna run the hitch. We'll get the first out. Well,
- 10:50Speaker 2: I heard it. I'm making my drop and it's just
- 10:52Speaker 2: a quick five. I'm replacing steps in the pocket and
- 10:55Speaker 2: I turned and I crank it. To go to throw
- 10:58Speaker 2: the hitch. Well, Steve has his head topped down and
- 11:01Speaker 2: he is running the one hundred meters like usain boat
- 11:04Speaker 2: and Pina kind of watches my stance and he thinks
- 11:08Speaker 2: I'm driving, and Pina kind of fits for a second.
- 11:10Speaker 2: Steve runs right past him, sow recoil real quick, get
- 11:13Speaker 2: it to him and we come to the sidelines and
- 11:15Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, I was bying to throw the hitch,
- 11:18Speaker 2: and he said, that's the way to watch me and
- 11:19Speaker 2: know what I'm doing.
- 11:20Speaker 4: You know.
- 11:21Speaker 2: It was one of those deals. And as the game
- 11:23Speaker 2: went on, I remember it was one point the touchdown
- 11:26Speaker 2: passed on the left side line when Steve jumped and
- 11:28Speaker 2: celebrated on the goal post. They put maybe Nathan Vasher
- 11:32Speaker 2: on him, and I knew he had good ball skills,
- 11:34Speaker 2: but he couldn't run. And I'm like, oh no, I
- 11:36Speaker 2: mean this is easy. I'm throwing it. It's a go route.
- 11:39Speaker 2: It's not even close. And I lay it up there
- 11:41Speaker 2: and Nathan Vasher just falls because Steve goes by him
- 11:44Speaker 2: so fast, and he just he was just different. Even
- 11:48Speaker 2: Ronde Barbaro, who I thought it was. He's the Hall
- 11:50Speaker 2: of Famer for a reason, but Ronde the same weight.
- 11:53Speaker 2: We play in Tampa and Ronde if ever he pressed
- 11:56Speaker 2: him and he'd laugh about it. I heard him give
- 11:59Speaker 2: a signal we throw a oh, and he just shake
- 12:01Speaker 2: his head like, what am I gonna do? If I
- 12:03Speaker 2: play off? They throw it in front of me and
- 12:05Speaker 2: gets in yards. If I you're getting near him, he's
- 12:07Speaker 2: gonna run past me. He's just different.
- 12:09Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Cannot wait till Steve has
- 12:13Speaker 1: his day in Canton, uh and it's coming and Luke
- 12:15Speaker 1: will have one this week. We got to ask you
- 12:17Speaker 1: before before you go. You're the radio analyst on the
- 12:20Speaker 1: Panther radio network. You know this team. You lived it
- 12:24Speaker 1: last year, the run to the playoffs. I want to
- 12:26Speaker 1: ask you about the current quarterback Bryce Young. The Panthers
- 12:30Speaker 1: has seem like they're kind of in a wait and see.
- 12:32Speaker 1: They want to see a little more before they commit
- 12:35Speaker 1: to him long term with a contract. As someone that
- 12:38Speaker 1: watches him but knows the position way more than we do.
- 12:41Speaker 1: What are some of the things that you think Bryce
- 12:44Speaker 1: has to do to take it to the next level.
- 12:48Speaker 2: Well, listen, we want to annoy guy so fast, right
- 12:53Speaker 2: rookie year c J Stroud is the next great quarterback? Well,
- 12:56Speaker 2: now that that's the question in youson they feel that's
- 12:59Speaker 2: the super both team, but they're questioning the quarterback like
- 13:02Speaker 2: it takes time, guys, and I'll go back to it.
- 13:05Speaker 2: I think continued growth up rice. And that's not a
- 13:07Speaker 2: cop out on answering the question. Last year, we took
- 13:10Speaker 2: away his his his blanket, right, we took away Adam Feelnd,
- 13:14Speaker 2: meaning he got traded, so we didn't start early in
- 13:18Speaker 2: the season that well, we got better as we went
- 13:20Speaker 2: on during the season. But you're throwing to the year two,
- 13:23Speaker 2: Cooper year two and team back year one, so like
- 13:27Speaker 2: and I think Bryce mentally he's so far ahead of
- 13:30Speaker 2: so many players at his age that you know he's
- 13:33Speaker 2: learning these guys. And I just think you saw the
- 13:36Speaker 2: steps that he made last year. I'm looking for another
- 13:38Speaker 2: continued growth and hopefully he's the guy and a lot's
- 13:41Speaker 2: gonna determine what we do this season. I mean, look,
- 13:43Speaker 2: that's just the way it gets, the way it goes.
- 13:46Speaker 2: I think this roster is getting built different now. I mean,
- 13:48Speaker 2: like I was able to be out there for the
- 13:51Speaker 2: first practice of the year when Nick Scordon went down,
- 13:53Speaker 2: but just watching this team, watching how we look, watching
- 13:56Speaker 2: how you know Dave and Dan Morgan and Grant have
- 13:59Speaker 2: built this football team. You just you sent it coming,
- 14:03Speaker 2: You sent it coming together. And the quarterback is a
- 14:05Speaker 2: big part of it. But I just think consistent play,
- 14:07Speaker 2: especially early in the season and early in games, and
- 14:09Speaker 2: then just kind of go from there and hopefully the
- 14:12Speaker 2: continued growth and hopefully you know, we're talking about a
- 14:15Speaker 2: massive deal for Bryce at some point in the future,
- 14:18Speaker 2: because that's what you want when you drop somebody first. Overall,
- 14:21Speaker 2: you want a decade quarterback or longer for yourself, for
- 14:24Speaker 2: your team.
- 14:25Speaker 3: Definitely, no doubt about it.
- 14:26Speaker 2: Jake.
- 14:26Speaker 1: It is always fun. We could go down Panther memory
- 14:28Speaker 1: Lane with you for hours, man. I mean, I tell you,
- 14:31Speaker 1: it's beautiful, dude. We want some John Foxx stories next time.
- 14:34Speaker 2: Next I got a B, I got a B.
- 14:39Speaker 1: Bet man, all right, Jake, be good man. I know
- 14:41Speaker 1: it'll be go time before we know it in the
- 14:44Speaker 1: regular season. Man, thanks for joining us.
- 14:47Speaker 2: Anytime, guys. I appreciate it. And uh, you know, go Panthers, baby.