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PRESTI RUNNING IT BACK?! + SHOCKING TRADE GAUNTLET · Bring The Thunder Podcast

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What is going on everybody? Welcome back to another episode
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of the Bring the Thunder podcast.
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We have the full panel today. We have 4 topics for you guys.
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All of them are really good. So we're just going to dive
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right in here with our first topic, which is my own.
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My first topic that I brought to the table for today was who has
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been our most valuable non starter this season, assuming
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that the starting lineup is Shay, Wallace, Dortchet and
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Hartenstein, who has been our most valuable bench player?
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So I'll go last since this is my question.
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If someone wants to immediately kind of kind of chip in there,
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be my guest. Yeah, I guess I'll start off on
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this one. I, I think it's a very good
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question because I think a lot of people would automatically
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turn to AJ Mitchell to start. I mean, he's been fantastic.
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He's, you know, top two, top 3 runner for six man of the year
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right now. But before the injury, I could
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argue that Aaron Wiggins was super important.
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He was having some monster games.
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He was killing it in Portland, the game that we lost before he
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went out to injury. And then, you know, we ended up
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losing that game. And I could also argue since
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Isaiah Joe's return that he's been lights out from deep.
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He's been fantastic on defense. It's become kind of a creator on
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the offensive side of the ball. Last year was more just shoot
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the ball. He's still shooting the ball at
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a remarkable rate, but he's going off the dribble, he's
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throwing behind the back passes, He's taking charges on the
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defensive end. But to actually answer the
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question, I just wanted to shout out those guys.
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I do think it has to be AJ Mitchell.
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Dudes putting up 15 points a game it seems like every game
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and sometimes he's reaching the 20 point mark, which is super
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effective off the bench. And he even when he was able to
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start, he was great. We won games with him as a
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starter. But I kind of want to highlight
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the defense. You know, you when you think of
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a six man of the year, you're like, oh, a guy who comes in and
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scores like 18 points per game off the bench efficiently and
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sparks the offense. Well, AJ Mitchell's averaging
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about 15 points a game almost while also being one of the top
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rated defenders in the whole NBA, not even just on the team.
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So he's providing both offense and defense off the bench.
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And I I don't think there's many players off the bench on any
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team better than AJ Mitchell, let alone OK C.
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Yeah, adding on to that as well, you mentioned the defense, he's
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got the second highest defensive rating in the entire NBA and
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behind behind Alex Caruso at #1 but that's just that OKC
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Dominus, I believe he's also 8th in that rating.
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So yeah, there there is nothing to immediately go out and just
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dislike it by AJ Mitchell. I mean, he's been doing
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everything and more that we expected.
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So Jack, do you want to chip in here?
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Yeah, I think there's only three real options for this.
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Everyone else has been great off the bench, but the three most
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valuable off the bench is AJ Wiggins and Caruso each have the
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right case, to be fair. I think obviously Caruso's
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leading OKC and the NBA and all these advanced statistics.
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Wiggins just does his thing and you know, we can always rely on
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him to say basketball. And then AJ Mitchell has
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obviously been one of the best six men in the league so far.
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So it's it's yeah, hard to choose out of those 3.
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But I'm going to stick with my favorite and go with Aaron
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Wiggins because I feel like when he's on one he is the most
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valuable and non starter so. Fair enough.
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Give me what do you what do you guys have here?
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Yeah, I'm going to be arguing for Isaiah Joe in this because
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he has the best offensive rating, space and gravity.
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He can have a really high plus minus swing and then also just
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offensively, like his scoring swings can pretty much tilt
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games from them being a close one to a 10 point advantage to
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where our defense can just pretty much keep that lead most
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of the time. So I think that's why he's super
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important. He also is probably the only
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real shooter that we have on the team in terms of like pure
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shooter that we have. He's always ranking amongst the
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highest and offensive rating alongside Shay.
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Any line up with him and Shay in it always, you know, turns the
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floor spacing from good to elite in my opinion.
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And he can lock down opponents if he needs to at times and
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moments. He's not like a net negative.
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He's just a neutral guy on defense.
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And then also it takes a lot of energy to chase around a guy
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like him. You had to run him off screens,
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things like that. So it's hard to scheme when you
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have a guy like Shay, then you have floor spacing of Chet.
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So adding Isaiah Joe into the mix when you know, you just saw
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like, let's say, a lineup with Caruso Door and maybe Cason who
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maybe not be hitting their shots at the moment, and then Isaiah
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Joe comes in and completely changes the game for us.
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So I feel like for his dynamic of what he adds and how premium
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shooting is and how well he's developed this season, like he's
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shooting lights out and he's having a tremendous season.
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I feel like he should get that recognition.
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I get why AJ is getting it and I, you know, I get why others
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like Caruso would get it and stuff, but for me, for me, I
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think it's him because during the playoffs, if he keeps this
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up, yeah, yeah, it'll be wraps. So I'm.
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Just going to hop in here really quick and just to add on Isaiah
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Joe because he does deserve a lot of credit.
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Another thing that we were kind of we weren't worried about, but
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we brought it up a few times earlier in the season was our
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three-point percentage as a team was terrible.
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I feel like ever since he's joined the team and and got back
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healthy, we haven't had now we we've had games where we didn't
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shoot well, but it hasn't been much topic of conversation.
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So I just want to like kind of throw that out there, not only
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him raising the percentage by himself, but maybe having him
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out there spacing the floor in that second unit also gets other
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guys open. So Isaiah Joe has also been
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extremely valuable. Yeah.
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The other point I want to add about Isaiah Joe is every
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championship team that wants to contend multiple times always
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has their prototypical shooter guy.
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And we can look back at guys like Kyle Korver, Mike Miller,
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you name it. Everyone, every team has had
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that guy and we really haven't had a pinpoint where Shay's
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getting double teamed and you can keep outlet passing.
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And we've seen in some games where that does happen and
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Isaiah Joe is that guy and it's not pretty for the other team.
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They usually call timeouts very quickly.
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So that's the level of like he can flip a game, whereas his
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impact on the floor isn't like the other guys that play
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defense. But it's just as profound.
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I feel like if you have an elite level talent, like if you have a
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pure shooter, it's hard to replace.
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Joe, you mentioned that 3 point shooting going up and, and the
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issues in the beginning of the season.
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There was an early episode where I remember we talked about that.
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And that was one of the things I said was I'm not worried about
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it because we have Isaiah Joe. Like the confidence that I've
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had in Isaiah Joe has been going on for quite some time.
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So Isaiah Joe is, it's hard to argue against him being one of
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those players. But the thing that I really
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wanted to point out and Jack, you kind of mentioned this, how
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you can make a case for everybody is it's it's such a
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blessing that we get to be a fan of a team that has this many
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bench players who are impacting the game in this way with.
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I mean, they're, they are such a big all of them.
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And like, I'll, I'll, I'll give my answer here in a minute.
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But all of them are the reason that we are having such a good
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start of the season. Every one of them has
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contributed. They've won US games, they've
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stepped up when they need to. And there is an argument for
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every single one of them. I mean, my, my gut wants to just
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say Caruso immediately, but that's actually not who I'm
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going to go with. But I think Caruso does have a
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very good argument. The reason I'm not going with
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him immediately is because like we've mentioned, he is kind of
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just used as that, that tool, that utility tool, that secret
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weapon when we need him. But he's not exactly getting
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high volume minutes every games because we don't need him to do
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that. You know, we're playing teams
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that don't require his his presence as much.
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So, but in the minutes he plays, I mean, he's he's this is the
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least amount of minutes per game he's played since his rookie and
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he's having arguably the biggest impact he's had in quite some
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time. I mean, he was big for us last
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year. But if you just look at the
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advanced stats for him playing such few minutes to be able to
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impact the game the way that he is, it's outstanding.
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But I think I'm going to go with Wiggins as well as as Jack said
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that I just think the impact that Wiggins has when he comes
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in, it's, it's insane. I mean, there, there were times
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last year where I, I've always loved Wiggins, but there were
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times where I, I would complain about sometimes his shot, his
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the shots he would take, he would just drive in, put up a
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shot. I'm not seeing that this year.
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I am seeing intelligent shots. I'm seeing good drives.
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I'm seeing him moving the ball. And then on the defensive end,
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he stepped up as well. I feel like he's playing more
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physical defense. I feel like he's moving a lot
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quicker and everything about him just feels like a starter.
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I mean, he does not feel like he should be coming off the bench.
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And Jack, you said that a lot last year.
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There were a lot of times last year where you were like this
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man should be starting. And honestly he should be on any
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other team because it's hard to justify him starting for us.
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But you can make the argument. But that's how good he is.
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He he's a starting level basketball player.
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Yeah, and every time he comes into the game, his energy, his
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hustle is just contagious. And we always just go, go and
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run and space off one of his players.
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And that's the thing I noticed about him the most is he gets a
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nickname for saving basketball because it feels like
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everything, all the comebacks come after a pivotal moment that
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he makes so. He also steps up to those
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moments incredibly like with with so much confidence.
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I mean, those are big moments and for the bench player to be
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the one that comes in and and wants that moment.
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I mean, that's, that's the starter mentality.
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That's the shame mentality is you want that moment, You want
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to be the one taking that big shot.
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And not only does he want it, but it it's like he was made
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for. I mean, he he knocks it down
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right when we need it. And then it the streak just
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keeps going. You know, you think of the Cavs
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game last year. You think I mean there there
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were so many games last year where I just felt like him alone
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ran this this huge run and as soon as that time out gets
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called by the other team, he is just screaming and and you're
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out of your seat. You're getting just as excited.
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But he is definitely the one that I'm I'm the most high on in
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terms of our off bench player. But everyone has a good
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argument. A JS got a great argument as
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well. I like your picks out of here.
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Isaiah Joe. I'm always going to ride with
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him. So this team is just it's so so
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damn good. I mean, there's so many players
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that we can essentially throw out for this this question.
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So that's at least my take on that.
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Absolutely moving on unless everyone is.
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Anyone else got anything else? We're good.
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All right, Gabe, what is our second topic here?
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So the second topic is some stuff that Joe's actually got
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for us here. Joe, do you want to kind of open
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up everything about that here? Give the Thunder fans some good
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news. Yes, from Spot Spot Rec, one of
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my favorite sites for contracts like NBA contracts, NFL
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contracts, all that stuff. They break it down completely.
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Go you go check that out. They put out an article today or
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yesterday actually, and it's almost immortal lock that the
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Thunder are going to re sign both dart and Dort and
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Hartenstein. Sorry, I was just thinking about
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football for a second there with dart, but so I'll kind of break
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it down a little bit. So in the article they explained
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that, you know, both Hartenstein and Dort have options coming
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back coming up on their on their contracts in 2627.
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It's a lot that the Thunder are going to decline those for sure.
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But OK, C re signing both players is like they said, a
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quote UN quote mortal lock, because we're going to get them
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back on good deals, team friendly deals like everyone
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else who's signed contracts with this team.
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You know, all all the contracts on this team have been team
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friendly with Dort. His next deal might start around
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18.2 million. His his team option is worth.
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But looking at recent history tells them to expect that the
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deal will likely decline over the years.
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So what they're saying is it'll start at 18.2, but that it'll
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it'll be front heavy the deal. So a lot of the money that we've
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been kind of a lot of the contracts we've been making the,
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it's the contracts have been back heavy.
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So people will get more money the longer they're on their
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contract. But with these deals with
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Dort's, they're going to push it in the front and it'll likely
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decline over the years to to keep even more cap space for OKC
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in the future years to come. Hardenstein's going to be 28
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when the deals up and he's not going to touch the 28.5 million
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that that's his team option they say.
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But that's why the Thunder paid him 58.5 million over the last
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two years. They expect Harden Hartenstein
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to take less per year, which is very nice of him to stay in OK C
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but with multiple guarantee guaranteed years tacked on to
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make up for anything he gives up on the season.
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So towards the end of his contract he'll get guaranteed
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money. So in the beginning it'll be
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lighter and then he'll get his guaranteed money towards the end
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as well. And they said that, you know,
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like and Dort and like Dort, Isaiah Joe, Aaron Wiggins before
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them, expect the deal to to decline year over year as well.
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So pretty much what that's saying is like we've seen with
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Aaron Wiggins, like we see with Isaiah Joe, we talked all last
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year about, Oh my God, look at the contracts we got Joe and
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Wiggins on and what they're becoming.
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And how nice is it to have a five year deal with the guy
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who's very valuable 6th man of the year candidate and he's not
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making an extreme amount of money.
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That's going to be like, oh, we're going to have to drop a
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starter or somebody off off the bench.
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They're saying that it's more likely than not that Hartenstein
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and Dort will both take team friendly deals.
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It'll benefit them in the long term.
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Like Hardenstein's, like I said, is going to get his guaranteed
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money and Dort will get his money kind of upfront and it'll
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kind of decline over the years, which makes a lot of sense for
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the team. So that being said, Gabe, I'm
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pretty sure we're going to three peat because if everyone stays
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on this team, we already have all of the bench locked up.
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AJ Mitchell is locked up on a three-year, $3,000,000 per year
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deal. We talked about Wiggins and Joe,
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we signed up to four or five year deals.
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What's up to like 40 million and nothing crazy.
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Check got paid, Dub got paid, Shay got paid, and it looks like
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these two are getting paid as well and I am super excited
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about that. Hey Joe, you want to take it one
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step further? We might get 3 lottery picks
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this year. Yeah, well, that's that's also
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so they also did mention if if something were were to go South
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in one of these negotiations between Dort or Hartnstein.
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We also have those lottery picks to, you know, make up where we
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also have Sorber who's injured. We we don't have our first round
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rookie this year. Nicola Topich hasn't been on the
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court yet. So you know, if something were
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to go wrong, we do have a lot of backup plans.
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So I'm happy you brought that up, but it is likely that we're
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going to be able to resign both and avoid second apron as well,
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so. I see Jack over there shaking
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his head in disbelief. Her.
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I can't even like I know all of this, but then when you said all
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in one sentence, I still can't fathom it.
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Like how, How was I? I don't understand how like the
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Wizards can be the worst team in the league for 10 seasons
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straight and we have everything that a team could need.
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It it used to be a joke, but but it it it's not it's not a joke
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anymore. He's he's playing 2K Like this
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is 2K. This is this is literally making
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2K trades. And it's when this is like when
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you have to stop a 2K league with your friend because of one
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of you broke the system and just kept getting too many picks and
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made too good of a team. That's what's happened right
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now. Like your friend's pissed at you
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because he's like, dude, that's an unreal.
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It's a trade. Yet here we are.
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We have every pick in the book. We're now finding ways to keep
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our money in check. Like this is stupid.
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I also think it's super important to highlight that a
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lot of the credit indirectly goes to Shay, Gilgit's
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Alexander, because he was part of the trade that got us all of
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these picks. You know, we also made multiple
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other trades together, even more picks, but the main trade was
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Shay and like a boatload of picks.
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This team doesn't get to where it's at already without Shay,
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Gil just Alexander becoming the best player in the NBA, which
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none of us be honest, none of us ever thought that was going to
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happen. So like to give him credit, you
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know, a lot of the credit goes to him and then it just that
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directly makes Presti look like a mastermind.
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And obviously now he's got like everyone's pick for the next 10
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years, so that works as well. I think in a few years we're
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going to get it revealed that Sam Presti actually has a a
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magic ball and and he's been using it all these years because
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he knows everything. He knows the future.
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He knows it's it's I think back to a couple episodes ago when we
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talked about that Mavericks pick that suddenly has become a lot
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more valuable. And I remember last year when
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that trade happened, we talked about it.
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I remember everybody on this panel saying I don't understand
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it, but it'll, it'll do something good and, and a year
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later, somehow it turns out good and that that's just what he
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does. That's what I don't know how
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many times we said on this podcast, but this, the, the
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Presti statue cannot come soon enough.
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I mean, it, it's going to be built one way or another.
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Whether he has to win US five rings first, I I don't know, but
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he, he's shooting towards it. But that's something I didn't
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want to talk about with Sam Presti in particular and what I
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love the most about him. And the job's never done with
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him. After we won the ring, he was
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thinking about how can I win the next two?
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Like, there is no stopping point for him.
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He doesn't see this as, yeah, I'm sure he felt really good
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when we won this ring. The next day.
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I'm, I believe he was trying to set up how the next season was
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going to go. And he's going to keep doing
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that every single year because there is nothing that he cares
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more about than just constantly getting better.
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And that's the that's the same mentality that our players have.
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That's the same mentality that our staff has, like the the
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culture and OK C is absurd. It is absurd and the fans have
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it just as much. Yeah, yes, I'm very happy you
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brought that up as well, because Once Upon a time there was a
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very good player on Oklahoma City that ended up leaving the
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team over $1 million, James Harden, of course.
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So you also want to shout out the players here too, right?
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I mean, Sam Presti is an absolute genius, an Oklahoma
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City Thunder legend, an Oklahoma City legend and just a legend in
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the NBA himself. But the report is that they're
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both likely to take less money than what they deserve.
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Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, deserve and
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and what, you know, what they're worth.
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Like Chet Holmgren could have easily said J Dub's getting that
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much more an incentive. I want that, too.
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Like. But it's the players and the
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culture that's been built around this team as well that really is
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putting this team over the top. It's whoever to you know,
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whoever's out there on Twitter or in the comments say the
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second second apron's going to get OK C It's not going to get
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us. It's not going to get us.
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And I feel really bad for them, I really do.
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Yeah, I might get this sorry franchise, but I want to get us.
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Yeah, Presti was thinking about the second apron 2 years ago.
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He's been thinking about all this.
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Like I said, he's got the magic ball.
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He's been looking at this. He's got plans, things that we
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still don't understand that will absolutely end up we'll we'll be
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making an episode in a month from now going over something
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Presti just did that somehow has unlocked more, more potential,
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more money, better odds, better picks, all that good stuff.
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So and. One last thing, Gabe.
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Yeah, kind of the the biggest dynasty that I've watched, or
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maybe the best that I've watched in all of sports is the New
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England Patriots with Tom Brady. And, and there's a quick
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connection here. I don't want to start talking
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about the NFL, but. The Patriots were able to be
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dominant for that long. They won 6 Super Bowls, right?
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So 6 is a lot of championships is because Tom Brady was never
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ever a top paid quarterback. He he was the best quarterback
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ever, but he never was #1 on that list for salary.
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And I think the main reason was he wanted to win and he knew
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that in order for him to have the best team around them, he
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has to take a cut. And these guys have the same
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exact mindset. And that's why I think we're
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going to be around for a super long time.
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I'd like to make my own rugby analogy similar to that.
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You guys probably won't catch this, but for those who do,
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shout out. So the New Zealand team, the All
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Blacks have a 78% win rate throughout the whole time and
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it's because of the team culture and the players putting the team
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above themselves. And I think that's also the
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formula that the OKC Thunder is attacking, so.
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While we might not understand that exact reference, it does
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show one thing though, and that's it doesn't matter the
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sport. If you put your team ahead, it,
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it, you will succeed. Like it does not matter what the
21:28
sport is. It doesn't matter if the, if
21:30
it's a popular sport, it if you put the team first, they will
21:33
succeed. Like that is just, that is a
21:35
fundamental thing. That's not just a sport thing.
21:37
Like I feel like I'm giving a Ted Talk right now.
21:39
That's the that's the thing with like, that's just life.
21:42
If in general, like if, if you put an effort into like team
21:45
chemistry and, and into, into working together, like you will
21:48
succeed better than being by yourself.
21:50
So there was one more thing I don't want to mention.
21:52
That's earlier, Joe, you were talking about.
21:54
We need to give credit to Shay as well.
21:55
And, and like a big part of that is that rookie year.
21:58
I mean, the potential that he displayed in that rookie year
22:01
with the Clippers where he just play out of his mind.
22:03
It it was it was incredible. I mean, it's it's the reason
22:06
Presti knew that it was worth going after him.
22:07
So with that, I actually wanted to use that to perfectly
22:10
transition into our next topic, which is I'm.
22:13
Super sorry. And we can cut this out of the
22:15
video if you guys want, OK. I think we got to keep it in
22:18
just to end that conversation. I think it's those those haters
22:22
really get to me. Those guys are they're not going
22:24
to survive the second apron. You guys could take that second
22:27
apron and shove it up your ass, right?
22:29
Nevermind, let's. Go OK, OK.
22:32
Talking about Shay, we talking about all that value that he
22:34
got. It's hard not to talk about Shay
22:37
and the player he's become if we don't talk about one of the most
22:39
important mentors that was in OK C, that was with Shay.
22:43
And that is our topic of reacting to Chris Paul's
22:46
retirement announcement. As we know here as Thunder fans,
22:50
we all at least respect him for what he's done with us.
22:52
And one of the biggest things that he did with us was just
22:55
completely take Shay under his wing, not just on the court, but
22:58
off the court as well as they are very close.
23:00
Their families are very close. But yes, let's do some, let's do
23:04
some talking about Savier's topic here, which is Chris Paul
23:08
retiring Savier. Got anything?
23:10
Yeah, I got, I got a little couple talking points.
23:13
First, I want to shout him out for his days.
23:16
I think he started out in Oklahoma on the Hornets back in
23:21
the day. That's what they were called,
23:22
but I'm not mistaken. So he led that city to kind of
23:26
become what it is today in two ways, One that way and also him
23:32
teaching up this core of Lou Dort and Shay Gill.
23:35
Just Alexander, you know, obviously he's going to go in
23:39
around NBA circles, but him personally to the city of
23:42
Oklahoma and to the current kind of dynasty that we're forming.
23:47
I think he's been super important.
23:49
I guess he's he was he was amazing, man, that season was
23:53
something special. We had no business even making
23:57
it to the playoffs and even taking that Houston Rockets team
24:01
to seven games in the bubble I believe.
24:03
But I'm curious as to what you guys think in terms of his all
24:06
time ranking as a Thunder player.
24:09
Does he enter your top five? If and if he doesn't, does he
24:14
enter your top ten and where would you rank him?
24:17
So I'd love to hear you guys thoughts.
24:22
That is tough, I mean. Just try to be brief.
24:25
I know, I know, I think I have to say no just because of the
24:30
short time spent here. Despite the amazing things that
24:33
he did, it's hard to put a player who was here for
24:36
technically more than one season, but you know, really,
24:39
really that one season, like despite how big of an
24:42
accomplishment it was for me, I I just have a hard time putting
24:45
him definitely not top five. Maybe he creep into the top 10.
24:48
But that's my thoughts on that at least.
24:50
But I love Chris Paul. I love what he did for us.
24:53
Yeah, Yeah. Go ahead, Jack.
24:58
Well, I'll be brief, but I think it I think he's top 10, but not
25:02
quite top five, just everything that he got that high.
25:07
Otherwise if he's top five because of his one season,
25:10
Denelo Gallinari is probably up there as well.
25:13
So. Well, he technically has two
25:17
seasons because he played early on in his career in Oklahoma and
25:21
then obviously not as a Thunder, basically.
25:24
He played for that when the Hornets were going through, I
25:26
believe, Hurricane Katrina. Yep, exactly.
25:29
So he has more seasons here than James Harden, just to put it out
25:33
there. Well, I think it's interesting.
25:38
Top five is is tough. I mean, I'd have to think it
25:41
out. Westbrook, you guys hate it, but
25:44
Katie Shay, Gilgeous, Alexander, I'd probably put J Dub, J Dub up
25:48
there in front of him. Now, you know what, no, I don't.
25:51
I don't believe he's top five because I do think a lot of the
25:54
guys who won the championship last year over him already.
25:57
But that's not to undermine what he did in the in the 1920s
26:01
season for us. Not only did he come in and, you
26:05
know, kind of it kind of soft soften the blow of what was
26:10
trading Russell Westbrook ended up going to the playoffs and
26:13
forcing Westbrook and Harden to seven games.
26:15
So that was fun. It was a fun season.
26:18
I mean, nobody expected us to win that many games.
26:21
He also was part of, like Gabe said, bringing up Shay.
26:26
Shay and him still have a great relationship.
26:28
They see each other from time to time throughout the season.
26:31
You saw that on starting five. That has been cancelled, by the
26:35
way, Starting five done for good.
26:38
And I guess we could talk about that another time.
26:40
But and, and, and the last thing is we traded for him and got
26:46
some picks and we traded him away and got some more.
26:49
So he did a lot other than just help us win individual
26:53
basketball games in the, in the short period that he was here.
26:56
So I'm actually sad to see that Chris Paul is retiring.
26:59
It is his time and it definitely is his time.
27:01
He's been declining over the last few years.
27:05
But I, I, I respect the hell out of him.
27:08
I never liked him as a like I hated him for a long time but
27:12
now the respect is definitely there.
27:14
I wish he could have won a championship and if the NBA
27:18
didn't block the trade to LA they easily would have won a
27:21
championship with him, Kobe and Dwight.
27:24
So wish them all. Best of luck and definitely not
27:28
top 5 though. Yeah, he's, he's one of those.
27:31
He's probably at the top of those kind of players who you
27:34
hate when they're not on your team and you really love him
27:36
when you're on, when he is on your team because just an
27:39
incredibly annoying player. I think it was specifically when
27:42
he was on our team. We were playing the Timberwolves
27:44
and he got the tech called because of their jerseys were
27:47
untucked. If I was a Timberwolves fan, my
27:49
remote would have been through my wall.
27:51
I would have been crashing out. That is insane.
27:54
But that's that's the kind of stuff he does.
27:56
He he's sneaky, he's sly. It really short Side Story here
28:01
that I just want to tell. I played soccer all throughout
28:03
high school and when I was a freshman, my captain pulled me
28:05
to the side and he was like, hey, I'm going to tell you this
28:07
right now. You cannot succeed in the sport
28:09
unless you know how to be sneaky and you're going to foul like
28:13
he's like, I pull people's jerseys, pull on like you're
28:16
going to have to do that or you will get bodied around.
28:19
That is the kind of leader Chris Paul was.
28:21
He, he knew, like, I'm gonna be sneaky, I'm gonna be dirty, but
28:25
I'm gonna do it within the rules.
28:26
Or if it's not within the rules, I'm gonna make sure the ref
28:28
can't see it. And that's.
28:29
And like, when you have a player like that in your team, you are
28:32
all for that and you just love it.
28:35
And then you play against him and it's like, this guy is the
28:37
worst. So Joe, I also had never been
28:39
like super fond of Chris Paul. We had him for one season and I
28:43
was like, oh, shit, I I love this guy.
28:45
Next year. Yeah.
28:47
And then the next year he gets off our team.
28:48
And I was like, do I have to still like, do I still like this
28:51
guy? I can't tell.
28:52
And like. I think I knew it was super odd
28:55
because when he left, we weren't good for three years and he went
29:00
to Phoenix and I kind of caught myself rooting for him a little
29:04
bit while he was on the Suns. The Suns made the finals.
29:07
They made a couple big playoff runs.
29:09
Got some MVP votes on the Suns as well.
29:11
Got some? MVP votes and and there's a
29:13
clear reason why the Suns got Chris Paul and they went to the.
29:19
He's a winning player. He he was always a winning
29:21
player. And that's why it doesn't sit
29:22
right with me that he didn't win a championship.
29:23
I Yeah. But I do want to say he's still
29:25
a Thunder legend for even the one season him and Gallegrini
29:29
had they let us to the playoffs, whatever.
29:32
But I think he's still a top eight player if we still think
29:35
about it, even with the current roster having one rings, I still
29:38
think he's up in the top 10. So that still puts you in, you
29:42
know, legendary status within a team in an organization that's
29:46
pretty young. And I think his chapter will
29:49
always kind of be remembered as, you know, post Russ keeping us
29:53
afloat. And then from him, the trades
29:56
really began with like him, Horford and all the other guys.
29:59
We continuously flipped over and over that turned into the roster
30:03
that we had today. And then his, you know,
30:05
dedication to the Thunder as AI think he won rookie of the year
30:10
on the Hornets when he was when the team relocated here.
30:13
And then also on top of it, the mentoring he's got with Shay.
30:17
But I do want to get over to kind of my Part B here.
30:21
Gabe, can you transition me over?
30:24
Yeah, I know we were kind of talking about Chris Paul here
30:27
and that's all good. But let's discuss some injury
30:30
things related with OKC. If you want to get into that
30:32
savvier, go ahead. Yeah.
30:34
So the first thing I think that I want to mention is Shay is
30:40
questionable with an illness. It is kind of we're changing
30:44
weather right now. So it could just be, you know,
30:48
we don't know, I guess the scope of the illness or anything like
30:51
that. But it hopefully it's not
30:53
anything too serious and it's just a cold or something like
30:55
that. Say it again.
30:58
Just need some vitamin C. Yeah, that's probably what it
31:02
is. I do want to say it'll have some
31:05
effects on the roster. AJ's role should expand.
31:08
Chet will become the top scoring option for us.
31:11
Isaiah Joe's spacing becomes even more critical for us.
31:15
And the returning player that we have is Kenrich Willing.
31:19
Kenrich Williams right now, he's no longer on the injury report.
31:22
He's officially cleared. He's missed the 1st 18 games.
31:25
He's going to have that toughness defense and he brings
31:28
a lot of stability in his 15 minutes of play that he usually
31:31
comes in with. And he's also just another
31:33
hustle man out there. We just need an extra body that
31:35
knows knows what to do. He'll lead the pack with
31:39
communication. I think just having Hartenstein
31:42
as the sole communicator and maybe Caruso out there is also a
31:46
communicator. But Kenridge adds that value
31:48
just as much as those two guys do.
31:50
And then on top of it, we do have two updates on the injury
31:55
report with Aaron Wiggins getting closer to progressing
31:58
with his injury. So he should be kind of knocking
32:02
on the door here for Matt, Mark Dagnell.
32:05
He'll add that energy, that defense that we need, just that
32:09
extra, I guess, overall stability.
32:12
He's a very, I guess, neutral player.
32:14
He brings everything to the table.
32:17
And then on top of it, J Dubs also getting kind of that same
32:22
quote progress being made. So I think their timetable is
32:26
probably the same like 2 weeks out, one week out.
32:30
But they have started at least warming up.
32:32
So, you know, early December, as I mentioned on their injury
32:36
report, before this report was officially released.
32:39
So awesome. There we go.
32:43
All right. Well, with that, I think we can
32:45
kind of get into our last topic here, which is more of a little
32:48
a fun activity that Jack's got for us.
32:50
So Jack, take it away. Yeah, the last couple weeks have
32:55
been. So I would like to reiterate
33:01
that this is very hypothetical, so don't attack me, but we are
33:06
going to be, Yeah, like I said. All right, so with our last
33:12
little topic, we have more of a fun event here that Jack came up
33:16
with. So Jack, what's this?
33:17
What's this activity that we're doing today?
33:20
We're going to be playing the Jalen Williams trade gauntlet.
33:23
But I would like to say a little disclaimer, I would never trade
33:26
Jalen Williams. I wouldn't want to trade Jalen
33:27
Williams. So don't don't get mad at me.
33:31
But this is just hypothetical. And then the other three are
33:38
going to say yes or no whether they trade Jalen Williams
33:41
straight up to him. You don't have to think what
33:46
would be included in the trade package is just a one for one
33:49
player swap. And yeah, all right, so I'm
33:54
going to say Jimmy Butler. Oh, not right now, no.
34:03
No. Definitely not.
34:04
Yeah, no shot. No thank you.
34:07
Hypothetically, no thank you. Tyrese Maxi.
34:14
Oh, he's balling. I wanted Tyrese Maxey out of his
34:18
draft class class and I really wish we were able to draft him
34:22
but he doesn't fit the OK C roster so no thank you.
34:27
And I'm going to say no because of the mostly the big thing is
34:29
the size and the physicality that J Dub brings.
34:32
Being able to guard one through 5.
34:33
Maxi cannot do that. So Maxi would bring peer
34:37
scoring, but we don't need another peer scorer like that's
34:40
what Shay does for us. Dub can provide his scoring, but
34:43
it's the defense that I think keeps.
34:44
When Tyrese Maxi scores a a 40 ball in the finals, we can start
34:50
talking about that maybe, but not not close for me at all.
34:53
What does? That beer is going.
34:57
To have an aneurysm. Yeah.
34:59
I'm. I'm trading Jade up for Tyrese
35:02
Maxi. Give them, give them to me.
35:04
I'm out of here. You guys can answer the rest of
35:05
these. OK.
35:07
Hypothetically. Yeah, I'm doing that
35:10
hypothetically. Well, you can continue playing
35:14
long, but Next up is Alper and Sangoon.
35:17
No. No, no, get his ass in here.
35:21
I hate that guy. I hate Alfred seeing you so
35:24
much. Oh.
35:26
Man. Valuable than Cason Wallace, so
35:28
get him out. Oh man.
35:29
Little little mini rockets ran there.
35:32
Oh man, I don't like I'm. I'm glad we're all on the same
35:35
page, Evan Mobley. Oh the the the interior defense
35:41
would be insane. This is pain.
35:42
For J dub. I, I would, I would trade him
35:45
for Evan Mobley, I would trade him for.
35:47
Him I'm not doing. That we'd have 3 bigs then.
35:50
I would I I mean, I'm fine with Zen using Hartford.
35:54
Oh my God. Evan, dude, Evan, Mobley and
35:57
Shetland, we're on the same team.
35:58
Is ridiculous to think about. Evan Mobley shoots like Evan
36:02
Mobley shoots like 25% from the free throw line.
36:05
Give me J dub and J dub clamped his ass last year but we had no
36:09
centers. Give me J dub.
36:11
That's fair, but I I am a big evidently 1. 7.
36:16
Yeah, I'm not doing an Evan Ogly for J Dub.
36:20
He brings the same amount of defense, better offense, so I'm
36:23
good. Devin Booker.
36:28
No next. Devin Booker four years ago.
36:32
Yeah, yeah. All right, Next up, Carl Anthony
36:36
Towns. Who?
36:39
Carl Anthony the big per no get his ass out of here.
36:45
I don't want to watch every game.
36:46
I don't want to watch my center scream every single time he
36:49
touches the ball. You think people would call us
36:51
free throw merchants now? Wait till we have cat on our
36:53
team. Holy shit.
36:56
We'll see a significant defensive drop off.
37:00
Yeah, as a team. So no, thank you.
37:01
Yeah, that too. Cat.
37:02
Cat is great, though. Cat is an incredible player,
37:05
but. He he's an incredible human
37:07
being. Next.
37:08
Yes, he is. Yes, he's an awesome guy.
37:09
But I I'm good. Next.
37:12
But. Jalen Brown.
37:17
No, he can't dribble his left. Hand if we're if we're floppers
37:20
now, dude, we're fucked after getting him.
37:23
I. Actually go what game?
37:26
I like Jalen Brown like I do, but I just don't think we would
37:30
need a player like that. In the defense that Jada brings
37:32
compared to Jaylen Brown is night and day.
37:35
I actually think that maybe Satvier and I did a video over
37:38
the summer. I think we both agreed that J
37:41
Dub cleared Jaylen Brown after last year.
37:44
I agree. So we'll keep Jaydub.
37:47
Keep it moving. Next up I have Paolo Banchera.
37:51
Yeah, Yeah, this is yeah, I'm doing that.
37:56
I love Paulo. I think Paulo's so, so good.
38:00
I I would absolutely do that. I mean, you're taking a dip in
38:03
the offense or the defense, but Paulo is so damned all.
38:07
But like, I just love Paulo. I'm a Duke fan and I've watched
38:12
Paulo probably more than you guys have overall and I don't
38:17
know something about his game doesn't equate to winning.
38:20
The more I see him in the NBA, like with the amount of ball
38:23
usage and like he needs the ball in his hands for his size, I
38:27
don't really prefer that type of player.
38:29
He kind of reminds me of like Carmelo Anthony, so I'm good on
38:32
him. Yeah, I kind of agree with that.
38:35
There's a little bit of rumblings over there in Orlando
38:37
that Paulo might want out soon. There's maybe a little bit of
38:40
disconnect from him and the coach.
38:42
I don't need that on my team. I'll take J of.
38:47
Next up I have Pascal's Yakim. No, dude.
38:51
Nah, get spinny P out of here. Dude, just go next please.
38:56
Joe's thinking about it a little bit here, yeah.
38:58
I can, I can. See, no, I was thinking about
39:00
it. Dude, Joe's getting flashbacks
39:02
to what he did. He's getting some.
39:04
Dunks. But no, no, I don't.
39:06
I don't. No, no, no.
39:08
OK. Next up, Kevin Durant.
39:12
Hell no. That's just rage bait next.
39:17
Sorry, sorry I got. Yes, I'm joking.
39:21
I'm joking. I'm joking.
39:22
I'm joking. Joe, I was just going to look at
39:24
you. I wasn't even going to say
39:25
anything. I was going to give you the most
39:26
disappointed. All.
39:30
Right, guys, you. Were doing last year.
39:31
Sorry Jack, I think I argued last year during our trade
39:33
deadline episode where we were talking about guys like to get.
39:37
Yeah, I believe. You I don't, I don't even think
39:38
I was for KD with J dub on the team, so I'm good.
39:43
Yeah. Anthony Edwards, OH.
39:49
That's the one. That's the one right there.
39:51
Yeah, for me, that's the one. I so strongly dislike Anthony
39:55
Edwards with every bone in my body.
39:58
I don't care if he no, I don't care if he's better than J Dub.
40:01
I would not I. Said come on, dude.
40:05
No, I can't do that. No, I can't.
40:08
Is. That a yes for you 7.
40:10
Yeah, that means a dog, bro. That means a dog believe, I
40:13
believe there's. I believe there's like 3 or 4
40:17
players that I'd consider trading J dub for.
40:21
Hypothetically. I would never trade J dub by the
40:23
way, putting that out there disclaimer, but Edwards
40:28
absolutely is 1 of. Them here.
40:30
Here's a serious thing to think about though is I I really do
40:33
struggle to see how Shay and Ant could both it.
40:35
Doesn't matter. I think Ant would be demanding
40:38
the ball way more than he should be.
40:40
It doesn't. I also hate Ant, so I'm just
40:42
going to be incredibly I. Promise you the problem there
40:45
Gabe, is with AI think he fits pretty well because he's a deep,
40:50
he's a good shooter and I don't think he demands the ball as
40:54
much as you think there's. Times where in.
40:58
Minnesota that he's not. I mean, maybe that was the Lou
41:01
Dort effect, but didn't. Have the ball.
41:04
It was the Lou Dort effect absolutely because when minute,
41:06
when he's on the court, especially this year, he is the
41:09
one with the ball because no one else is worth a shit.
41:12
I mean, he has to be, but I, I think with his attitude and, and
41:16
the way he I just, I just don't know how well that would work.
41:19
I I don't know, I would have a hard time seeing our.
41:21
Scoring figure. It.
41:24
Out. We're down to the last three
41:26
now. I'm going to go one at a time.
41:30
Victor Wimpenyama. No no, I'm taking J Dub because
41:37
Victor Wimpenyama's career is going to last like 9 years.
41:42
Not wishing injury, it's just hard for a big guy like that 7
41:45
foot 6 to keep a a long career. Like John Beads.
41:49
Kind of similar to him. He's had a decently tended
41:53
career, but he hasn't played in two years because of the wear
41:57
and tear on his body. Joe, I get what you're saying,
41:59
but the other side of that is we would also win nine straight
42:02
chips. No, I don't want I don't want
42:06
the the seven foot six guy who goes 4 for 16 in a game.
42:10
It doesn't make sense to me. I'll take.
42:12
Jada, it's not doing a whole lot of that.
42:13
This year he had 9/4. No, that was this year.
42:17
No, I'm saying he's not doing a whole lot of that.
42:19
Against the Phoenix Suns. Yeah, he he's had, he's had some
42:22
off games. He's also had a lot more really
42:24
good, efficient. He's never had four.
42:26
So is that a? Is that a yes from you guy?
42:30
Oh man, I I'll say, I'll say no, but I'm.
42:37
Saying no as well, it's kind of close, but with it is close, his
42:42
injury history is kind of getting worse and worse year by
42:46
year so. And he shoots a lower field goal
42:49
percentage than our point guard. So does most players.
42:55
Yeah, but. Next UPS I'm very interested for
42:59
this one, Nicola Jokic. Yes bro just say yes and move.
43:07
On you don't even know what I would trade.
43:09
Just say yes and move on. You, I don't think you can say
43:14
no. Like you can try to come up with
43:16
a reason, but there is no it's not going to sound good.
43:21
Right. So that's the first one we will
43:23
agreed on so far. And then the last one, which in
43:26
my opinion is a definite is Giannis.
43:31
Yeah, yeah, I think Shay, the way you guys were acting about
43:36
Shay and Ant is how I would feel about Shay and Giannis.
43:39
Like I think we would just never lose a game ever.
43:42
I'm pretty sure we would win the next like 300 games in a row
43:45
like Shay. That would be ridiculous.
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That would be terrible for the league for.
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For me, I'm saying no and I'm serious.
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OK. I'm saying no because you can
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have a lot of superstars on the same team, but if you put out a
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lineup of Shay, Giannis, and Hartenstein, there's not much
44:07
shooting in there at all and it's going to be clogged
44:10
completely. For Shay to create Giannis off
44:14
the ball isn't fantastic as well.
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I think J Dub fits with Shay much better than Giannis would.
44:19
J Dub made big threes in the playoffs when Shay was getting
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double teamed in the paint. Giannis wouldn't be able to do
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that. Counter argue there's hundred
44:27
points in the paint. Yeah, yeah.
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And. Just guard the paint.
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Just guard Giannis. How's that been working in the
44:35
last four years? Like you can't.
44:37
Just won anything? You can't just.
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He has he. Has though.
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He's won MVPS, he's won the finals, he won deploy in.
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The past four years I mean, what do you what do you win 2021
44:47
right fine the last three years he hasn't won anything It's.
44:50
The Milwaukee with Bucks back to the Finals?
44:52
Come on. Bro a line up of Hardenstein,
44:55
Shea, Giannis and who we are starting to and Lou Dort.
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You you would you would probably alternate certain things around
45:03
it to put shooting around. Have heart be the one that comes
45:05
in for Chet or Giannis. That way you're not having that
45:08
on the court. Like you can still use heart off
45:11
the bench, but a starting line up of like Shay Dort, you can
45:15
have you can have chat. You would have chat for the
45:17
shooting. You have Shay who has been
45:18
shooting efficiently from three this year.
45:20
We know he can. Shoot.
45:21
And you have Isaiah Joe, we have Kayson, we have Wiggins, we have
45:25
Shoot, we have guys who could step up.
45:26
And then you have Yanis who Shay and Yanis are going to single.
45:30
Handedly. We're winning three games, bro.
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Yeah. Yeah, I'm taking Jalen Williams.
45:42
We got to call it there, boys. There's no way.
45:44
Yeah. That's.
45:46
Not like the paint clog the paint.
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Yeah, I love clogging the paint. That that's a, that's an area
45:55
where I clog it all you want. We're still going to score
45:57
effortlessly. Not a lot of lanes for SGA to go
46:00
when there's 5 right in the middle of the paint I.
46:03
Don't think they're going to have all five players in the
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paint. They would if that was the line
46:06
up. Well.
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I I'm playing, I'm playing a zone every minute of every game
46:14
and I want you with Jay, Giannis, Dort and Chet to beat
46:19
me from the three-point line. I don't think you're going to.
46:21
They're not going to the three-point line in.
46:24
My zone, Who in my zone? They're going to have to be in
46:27
the. OK, here, here's the thing by
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what you're saying. Yeah, Like if if you look at if
46:32
you look at like a whiteboard and look at how this would work,
46:34
Yeah, that would work. But who is stopping Giannis?
46:38
Who is? Who is?
46:39
They give me some paint. How does that work?
46:42
That's what people do now and it doesn't work.
46:44
You can't stop Giannis. Giannis.
46:46
The zone that. Denver.
46:47
The zone that Denver played against OKC last year would have
46:50
been more effective what Giannis on the team.
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I can agree it would be more effective.
46:56
I still think we'd win, of course.
46:57
Two of the best slashing players in the league, SGA and J Dub to
47:01
kick to 4 three-point shooters. We went and we went to seven
47:05
games. Hold on, I am.
47:08
We went to seven games. I'm bringing stats into this.
47:11
This is getting agreed. We don't need stats.
47:14
Brother, he's averaging. He's.
47:17
Averaging 3110 and seven on 50% from the three-point line and
47:23
62% from the field goal, he's shooting the highest.
47:27
Yeah, I would like to go. For regular season and nobody
47:31
plays zone. He's Giannis has had like a 20
47:35
assists game this year. He's assisting and that's with
47:38
the Bucks. You got to admit, the Thunder
47:41
have better role-playing three and D shooters than the Bucks
47:44
do. He's also averaging 2.
47:46
He's averaging 2 stocks, one steal and a block every game.
47:49
Like bruh. Exactly.
47:52
Yeah, and and put them on a team together and then throw chip.
47:55
J Dub J Dub was averaging more than two stocks last year, too.
47:59
We are not. We cannot argue if we're going
48:02
to bring up like J Dub just as a player.
48:03
We cannot argue that he is better than the honest like.
48:06
I will make no, I'm not arguing. That OK, OK.
48:09
OK, I will make you shoot a three every possession or I'm
48:14
going to foul the hell out of Giannis and you're not going to
48:17
beat me in A7 game series. I I just don't think, I don't
48:20
think it's going to be that easy to stop the other player.
48:22
You think Shay is just going to get stopped?
48:24
Shay does not get stopped. Shay will get his 30.
48:27
They had tough times against his own until they learn to put him
48:30
or Jade up in the middle and then kick to a three-point
48:33
shooter and we actually made some shots.
48:36
A three-point shooter, as in the same ones that would be there if
48:38
we had Giannis. The reason we went to seven
48:41
games last year is because we weren't shooting effectively
48:44
enough against that zone and the shooting would get 10 times
48:47
worse with J Dub off the team with and and Yanis on, they
48:52
would have beaten us. Oh man, I think, I think we're
48:55
just going to have to end it there.
48:56
This our this debate could go on for forever.
49:00
Yanis has figured out how to shoot the mid range as well, so
49:03
it's like. It's not about, it's not about
49:05
mid range, it's not about mid range.
49:06
It's about 3 point shooting in that zone.
49:09
You don't need 3 point shooting to win games.
49:12
We we should know that. OK, well.
49:17
Jack, whatever, whatever. Whatever, Jack.
49:19
Great hypothetical there. Yeah, I'm sorry, but that goes
49:23
down this rabbit hole. You did good there.
49:25
You did good there. I got dub.
49:28
I got dub in my 2. OK, well, thank you guys for
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