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22 Panels Episode #257 - Orla! · 22 Panels - A Comic Book Podcast

• 0:02
  Tyler Johnson: Always waiting for that recording in progress. Hey everyone, welcome back to 22 Panels. This is the podcast that aims to examine, explore.
• 0:13
  Tyler Johnson: And the other E word elevate the medium of comics. I am.
• 0:18
  Phil: ZVA.
• 0:18
  Tyler Johnson: similar.
• 0:19
  Phil: Does that mean Tyler's elevated this morning? If he can't elevate?
• 0:23
  Tyler Johnson: Nope, not elevated. Well, I do have some Mountain Dew here. Oh, that'll get you.
• 0:28
  Phil: up there.
• 0:28
  Tyler Johnson: This is…
• 0:29
  Tad Eggleston: Not yet. He'll get… he'll get truly elevated while he's walking to work.
• 0:34
  Tyler Johnson: No.
• 0:35
  Tad Eggleston: taking.
• 0:35
  Tyler Johnson: day off. This is…
• 0:36
  Tad Eggleston: So I'm surprised you don't have, like.
• 0:39
  Tad Eggleston: Willie drinks.
• 0:41
  Tyler Johnson: We do have them, but, not really.
• 0:44
  Tad Eggleston: I meant for your mornings.
• 0:46
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, you mean talking about THC drinks right away in the morning?
• 0:52
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, it is your reputation.
• 0:53
  Phil: Tyler.
• 0:54
  Tyler Johnson: They do have sativa drinks. They do have sativa.
• 0:57
  Phil: Wow.
• 0:58
  Tyler Johnson: But I don't know. I think before noon requires special circumstances, you know.
• 1:06
  Phil: The weekend.
• 1:07
  Tyler Johnson: To have a, you know, 10 milligram plus drink.
• 1:12
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I don't partake at all, I just, I don't know, I had it in my head that you, you.
• 1:18
  Tad Eggleston: You rolled out of bed, and that was the special circumstance. So…
• 1:22
  Tyler Johnson: think.
• 1:23
  Phil: Put it in your cereal, right? This is the weekend we're talking about.
• 1:26
  Tyler Johnson: If I've got, you know, like a vape here or something like that, fine, but a whole can of something would be…
• 1:34
  Tyler Johnson: A little bit much, but…
• 1:36
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 1:36
  Tyler Johnson: Anywho, how.
• 1:39
  Phil: Phil sips suspiciously from a can. Not really.
• 1:45
  Tad Eggleston: So, news to note, news has been flowing out of New York Comic Con.
• 1:51
  Tad Eggleston: Already. The first is, Marvel is doing… Paperback.
• 1:58
  Tad Eggleston: Massively oversized, what they're calling.
• 2:01
  Tad Eggleston: Bricks.
• 2:03
  Tad Eggleston: I.
• 2:04
  Phil: Damn time.
• 2:05
  Tad Eggleston: to allow for lots of comic reading all at once.
• 2:10
  Tad Eggleston: So, that's fun. Then some, interesting, Creative team stuff, Stan Sakai?
• 2:22
  Tad Eggleston: We'll be writing a TMT first Ronin, so like a prequel to the last Ronin.
• 2:30
  Tad Eggleston: series.
• 2:33
  Tad Eggleston: Grant Morrison is taking on James Bond, and G. Willow Wilson and Rachel Stott.
• 2:41
  Tad Eggleston: Taking the reins on Captain Marvel.
• 2:46
  Tad Eggleston: Jump into the Captain Marvel shoes are always, like, really big ones. With Kelly Sutahanic and
• 2:54
  Tad Eggleston: Kelly Thompson having had Like, legit runs there.
• 2:59
  Tad Eggleston: But then, Wilson… created and killed it on Ms. Marvel, so, like… It's a good choice.
• 3:12
  Tad Eggleston: What kind of week has it been?
• 3:14
  Tad Eggleston: It's, it's, it's hard to…
• 3:20
  Tad Eggleston: almost handle and fathom the way poles keep.
• 3:26
  Tad Eggleston: making… November, which is now… 3 weeks away.
• 3:33
  Tad Eggleston: Look like… A blue tidal wave.
• 3:36
  Tad Eggleston: So I think a lot of us are spending a lot of time just waiting for the shoe to drop.
• 3:44
  Tad Eggleston: Right? Yep.
• 3:46
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, when Kansas and Texas are legitimately in play.
• 3:54
  Tad Eggleston: You don't want to let yourself get too ahead of yourself. Yeah.
• 4:03
  Tad Eggleston: Anything else that anybody else noticed?
• 4:06
  Phil: I mean…
• 4:10
  Tyler Johnson: The same old, same old Pete Hicks, Seth, right guys, I don't.
• 4:13
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, God.
• 4:14
  Tyler Johnson: wanna.
• 4:14
  Phil: rooms.
• 4:15
  Tad Eggleston: Wait, no.
• 4:16
  Tyler Johnson: Did you guys get… wait.
• 4:18
  Tyler Johnson: Before we say that, like, did you guys happen to preorder your pay-per-view tickets?
• 4:24
  Tyler Johnson: No! This is gonna be big, you guys!
• 4:26
  Phil: No, they're gonna kill a man about this.
• 4:28
  Tad Eggleston: You know.
• 4:29
  Tyler Johnson: They're going to live stream it. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity.
• 4:35
  Tad Eggleston: There are…
• 4:36
  Phil: Yeah.
• 4:36
  Tad Eggleston: There are two countries left in the world.
• 4:40
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 4:41
  Tad Eggleston: That have public executions.
• 4:45
  Tad Eggleston: Afghanistan and Iran.
• 4:49
  Tyler Johnson: Well, we got to show our might somehow. God, don't be dicks.
• 4:53
  Tyler Johnson: I'm just kidding.
• 4:54
  Tyler Johnson: Well, and…
• 4:56
  Tad Eggleston: And beyond that, like… By shooting a Muslim in a wheelchair.
• 5:03
  Tyler Johnson: Yep.
• 5:06
  Tad Eggleston: Can you say recruitment video any louder?
• 5:12
  Phil: Yeah, that's, had not considered that angle. But, yeah, it was one of those scenarios that…
• 5:18
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, like…
• 5:20
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, I had tried to forget that, but thanks for bringing it up, because we should say something, because, like.
• 5:26
  Tyler Johnson: The men there are men on the firing squad just drop it, like
• 5:30
  Tyler Johnson: off left and right. They're like, no, no, no.
• 5:33
  Tad Eggleston: yeah!
• 5:34
  Tad Eggleston: Good!
• 5:35
  Tyler Johnson: exactly.
• 5:35
  Phil: That's…
• 5:36
  Tyler Johnson: Here's the thing. I think Pete Hegseth should have to do it himself.
• 5:40
  Phil: Oof.
• 5:41
  Tyler Johnson: load.
• 5:41
  Phil: No, no, no. You… you… I mean, the reason… the reason I say that is just because, like, like.
• 5:48
  Phil: I don't know. It's hard to imagine that not being, like, a sick thrill for him, you know?
• 5:53
  Tad Eggleston: Well, yeah, but it also means we absolutely know who to prosecute.
• 5:58
  Tyler Johnson: Correct.
• 5:58
  Phil: Yeah.
• 5:59
  Tyler Johnson: Where's his balls at? I mean, come on.
• 6:03
  Tyler Johnson: I mean, are we in agreement that the man should be executed, or what do you guys think?
• 6:10
  Phil: I haven't…
• 6:11
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I 100% oppose the death penalty in all.
• 6:16
  Tyler Johnson: Okay.
• 6:16
  Tad Eggleston: is.
• 6:17
  Phil: Yeah.
• 6:18
  Tyler Johnson: Okay.
• 6:18
  Phil: I was gonna say, it… it… I… I hadn't… I wasn't as quite clear on my convictions as Tad, but yeah, I don't think we should be executing pretty much anyone. I mean… you know, I mean, if Manson's able to live out in prison for the rest of his life, then yeah, that's…
• 6:34
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it's…
• 6:35
  Tyler Johnson: I just didn't know if we were talking about just the execution or the public display of it.
• 6:43
  Phil: The public…
• 6:44
  Tad Eggleston: Public display of it is, is, like, like, I mean, I'm talking about the public display of it. Yeah. Like, I… I…
• 6:54
  Tad Eggleston: I oppose… state execution.
• 6:58
  Tad Eggleston: Across the board, period.
• 7:00
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 7:03
  Tad Eggleston: But it's one of those things that…
• 7:08
  Tad Eggleston: I have space for the fact that there are differences of opinion.
• 7:13
  Tad Eggleston: I have space for the fact, you know, so, like, my… My real…
• 7:23
  Tad Eggleston: passion lies in just a more equitable justice system. Yeah. A lot of wise… a lot of the reasons that I oppose state execution, period, is that, like.
• 7:39
  Tad Eggleston: A…
• 7:40
  Tad Eggleston: if there's even a chance that you get it wrong, you can't come back for it, and B, we don't have a clearly equitable justice system, so, like… Okay.
• 7:50
  Phil: And we actually don't have a humane method of execution.
• 7:55
  Tad Eggleston: out.
• 7:55
  Phil: Yeah.
• 7:56
  Tad Eggleston: Is there a humane method of execution?
• 7:58
  Phil: That's the question, but, like, I think that there's a public opinion that lethal injection is the humane method, but it's actually not. It's a pretty…
• 8:07
  Tad Eggleston: I'm fully aware of that. Yeah, yeah.
• 8:11
  Phil: Yeah, I didn't think you weren't, but just for any listeners out there.
• 8:13
  Tad Eggleston: kind.
• 8:13
  Phil: think that lethal injection is quiet and painless. No, no.
• 8:17
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and the botched one in Ohio recently.
• 8:21
  Phil: Botched one in my own state, Tennessee.
• 8:23
  Tad Eggleston: That's what I meant.
• 8:24
  Phil: Oh, okay. I didn't know if there was another one.
• 8:27
  Tad Eggleston: No, no, no, no.
• 8:30
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, they injected her twice, and she's… just came out of her coma.
• 8:34
  Phil: Yeah.
• 8:37
  Tad Eggleston: And is walking around right now.
• 8:39
  Tyler Johnson: In my opinion. Yeah. I mean, they can't kill. They did.
• 8:41
  Phil: you.
• 8:41
  Tyler Johnson: She's your she's.
• 8:42
  Phil: It didn't take. She's good though, right.
• 8:44
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, she doesn't.
• 8:45
  Phil: Released from prison.
• 8:46
  Tyler Johnson: again.
• 8:46
  Phil: You know, I mean, that's what that's in my mind. That's like you get a do-over. Or not a do-over, but like you get a you get a jit get out of jail free card for surviving the jewel.
• 8:55
  Tyler Johnson: situation right now? Like, is she still in prison?
• 8:58
  Phil: I mean.
• 8:58
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, well, I mean, she's still in the prison hospital, but… Yeah, no, it's, Okay.
• 9:06
  Tyler Johnson: Okay.
• 9:07
  Tad Eggleston: It's messy.
• 9:08
  Tyler Johnson: Technically, she's been executed twice. Well, if it's been two, right.
• 9:14
  Phil: Inject it twice.
• 9:16
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, right, but that's the procedure for execution. She didn't die, that's… I… I don't know.
• 9:23
  Tad Eggleston: the.
• 9:24
  Phil: here.
• 9:24
  Tad Eggleston: No, yeah.
• 9:26
  Phil: When someone doesn't die.
• 9:27
  Tad Eggleston: But… but then when… again, like, the… the making it public, I mean, even if it wasn't livestream, just making it public, that…
• 9:37
  Tad Eggleston: That's not something that civilized nations do.
• 9:42
  Phil: Yeah, that's not… it's not something that… that I'd want, you know.
• 9:46
  Phil: in my society. Like, I don't want to contribute to that. I don't want to support that. I'm horrified that it's even…
• 9:54
  Phil: December 3rd, I think, is what I heard?
• 9:57
  Phil: But still, it's, it's, you know…
• 10:00
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, it seems to even have some people in the Trump administration, including Trump himself, a little squeamish, so we'll see if it actually does happen, but…
• 10:10
  Phil: I was gonna say, is he squeamish, or is it just dementia kicking him hard?
• 10:13
  Tad Eggleston: I, you know,
• 10:18
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it doesn't even matter.
• 10:24
  Tad Eggleston: Doesn't even matter.
• 10:25
  Tad Eggleston: Let's go to new to order.
• 10:28
  Tyler Johnson: Let's go to comic books, guys.
• 10:30
  Tad Eggleston: Additional orders due on October 22nd.
• 10:34
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, Fantastic Four incursions from Ethan Parker and Griffin Sheridan, Paco Medina from Marvel, the cataclysms that birthed Secret Wars, a gamma-powered Fantastic Four, a cosmic-powered Bruce Banner.
• 10:50
  Tyler Johnson: Can two Earths survive their heroes, let alone an incursion? When the skies turn red and a second Earth appears overhead, brilliant scientist Bruce Banner discovers an impossible truth. In just 8 hours, two universes will collide, and both will be destroyed.
• 11:06
  Tyler Johnson: As a gamma-powered Fantastic Four battles a rampaging, cosmic-powered entity born from Banner's desperate mission, Reed Richards faces the one problem even he can't solve.
• 11:18
  Tyler Johnson: In the hours before oblivion, will Marvel's first family save their world? Or find the courage to say goodbye?
• 11:27
  Tyler Johnson: November 16th, final order cutoff, and in shops December 23rd.
• 11:34
  Tyler Johnson: Alright.
• 11:35
  Phil: In good hands with Bad Company number one, from Matthew Rosenberg, Josh Hood, and Stefano Landini, and Jason Worthy. From the world of We're Taking Everyone Down With Us, follow the breakout spy-fi black comedy hit of last year comes the prequel story no one asked for. Meet Agent Rook. He's young, he's idealistic, he's learning how to be a good spy.
• 11:59
  Phil: And the first rule of being a good spy? Trust no.
• 12:02
  Phil: The second rule? Drink to excess. From series creators Stefano Landini and Matthew Rosenberg, and brilliant artist Josh Hood comes the saddest story about the worst guy. Plus, short story about Queen Annalise and how unbelievably boring it is to be queen. It's gonna have a final cutoff of November 9th in stores, December 9th.
• 12:24
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, Jessica Jones, alias, number one.
• 12:29
  Tad Eggleston: Brian Michael Bendis and Michael Gaydos return to their creation. After tumultuous tenure as First Lady of New York, Jessica is going.
• 12:38
  Tad Eggleston: to get back to basics. But Marvel's premier PI rarely gets what she wants. When a simple abduction case drags her to the most obscure and bizarre corners of the Marvel Universe, Jessica finds herself tested like never before. Final order cutoff, November 16th, in stores December 23rd.
• 12:58
  Phil: Merciless number one from Mirka Andolfo and Lydia Bolognini. 15 years after the Devil of Woodsburg vanished, evil returns to town. Having rid itself of the terrible Devil of Woodsburg, the
• 13:13
  Phil: Thriving former mining town has seen the sun shine again for 15 years, until the arrival of a new Lady Helene. Rory, accompanied by Joel, is all grown up now and ready to open her factory. But her arrival hides a secret. Electric sumac is spreading through the streets, a strange drug that makes humans unusually strong and dangerous, something Rory and Joel are determined to stop at any cost.
• 13:37
  Tyler Johnson: Boom.
• 13:37
  Phil: Knowing all too well that its mysterious origins are decidedly not of this world.
• 13:42
  Phil: Meanwhile, Sheriff Bancroft seems to have returned as well to settle the scores his father left behind. Could Rory end up caught in the middle? The long-awaited sequel to the international hit Mercy is finally here, with a final record off of November 9th in stores December 2nd.
• 13:59
  Tad Eggleston: Weekly World News number one from Ken Christensen, Stephen Paul Judd.
• 14:04
  Tad Eggleston: Civili? Jacob?
• 14:07
  Tad Eggleston: And MK Perker at Mad Cave Studios, the son of one of the most respected journalists in history, joins the misfits at the notorious tabloid.
• 14:16
  Tad Eggleston: Famous for headlines like Elvis is Alive, Bigfoot Sex Slave, and Florida Mafia Hires Vampire to Kill OJ. In this issue, a conspiracy so deep, it may have cracked the ceiling of hell. Final order cutoff of November 9th in stores on December 2nd.
• 14:38
  Tyler Johnson: Is that me now?
• 14:39
  Phil: Yep.
• 14:41
  Tyler Johnson: Alright, X-Files from Joe Harris and R.D. Brown, out from Dynamite. When wild accounts of young people manifesting strange telekinetic powers begin popping up on social media.
• 14:54
  Tyler Johnson: Newly reinstated agent special agents Mulder and Scully are tasked with getting to the truth and debunking an urban legend before it can take hold.
• 15:03
  Tyler Johnson: But they're not the only ones looking.
• 15:06
  Tyler Johnson: And when a shadowy group of neoconspirators shows the same interest, we learn there might be… more of these gifted people, and that the origin of their powers is extraterrestrial in nature. The alien threat has only metastasized.
• 15:22
  Tyler Johnson: Now shattery actors within the government plot with powerful special interests outside of it in a race to secure alien secrets related to biology, disease, and everlasting life. All with Mulder and Scully stuck between the unbelievable and the seemingly miraculous truth.
• 15:42
  Tyler Johnson: Final order cutoff is November 9th, and this will be in shops December 2nd.
• 15:48
  Phil: I know it was X-Files, but that sounded more like, it was X-Men Files.
• 15:53
  Tyler Johnson: Correct. It did. Yeah.
• 15:55
  Tyler Johnson: My X-Men files, I'd like that.
• 15:59
  Tad Eggleston: Alright, some graphic novels. Cartoon History of the United States from Larry Gonick at HarperCollins. What?
• 16:06
  Tad Eggleston: You don't know what a Burgess is? You can't outline the Monroe Doctrine? Recall the 14th Amendment? Explain the difference between a Sputnik and a Beatnik? Then you need the cartoon history of the United States to fill those gaps. From the first English colonies to the Gulf War and the SNL debacle, Larry Gonick spells it all out from his unique
• 16:26
  Tad Eggleston: Cartoons Perspective. In stores on November 2nd.
• 16:30
  Tad Eggleston: Er, I'm sorry, final order cut off November 2nd in scores on December 2nd.
• 16:37
  Phil: Eat Fighter from Fred Van Lente and Crystal Skillman and Fernando Pinto over at Rocketship Entertainment. Eat Fighter is a competitive eating zombie murder epic that follows Missy, a 30-something fitness nut who throws away her kale and step-counting ways to become a superstar on the competitive eating circuit.
• 16:56
  Phil: Following the lifestyle of her late brother, who was a champion competitive eater himself, she embarks on a quest to become
• 17:02
  Phil: to Seoul to become the world champion Eat Fighter. But eating barrels of barbecue and acres of apple pie doesn't come without a price. So what's Missy's secret as to why she can eat as much as she wants and never gain a pound? Find out, after filling out a final order cutoff on November 9th, it'll be in stores December 9th.
• 17:24
  Tyler Johnson: Good.
• 17:24
  Phil: Tyler.
• 17:25
  Tyler Johnson: Lie, lie, Popeye from Marcus Williams. Popeye, arguably one of the most iconic characters in comic book history and legendary cartoon character, is reimagined for the modern age in this new brand new series by Marcus Williams.
• 17:40
  Tyler Johnson: Popeye, I Lie Popeye, reimagines the pop culture staple in a high-energy, manga-inspired monthly comic series that explores Popeye's past and finally reveals the century-long mystery of how he lost his eye. What is it, an epic battle?
• 17:57
  Tyler Johnson: Or so, oh, excuse me.
• 17:59
  Phil: Yeah.
• 18:00
  Tyler Johnson: Or some nautical accident? The truth finally comes out as an old enemy from the sea returns to face off against the legendary Sailor Man.
• 18:09
  Tyler Johnson: Final order cutoff?
• 18:11
  Tyler Johnson: October 26th, this will be in shops December 2nd.
• 18:16
  Phil: Sorry, I also gotta say that a manga Popeye is just one piece.
• 18:24
  Tad Eggleston: Collections, ElfQuest, Siege at Blue Mountain, Book 1 from Wendy Peeney and Richard Peeney, at Dark Horse, the Palace of the High Ones has been won. In their hold, Wolf Rider Chief Cutter and his clan can settle in a
• 18:42
  Tad Eggleston: in and enjoy life for the first time in recent memory. The horrors of battle and betrayal are behind them. That is, until Aurori, a fugitive glider.
• 18:51
  Tad Eggleston: kidnaps a Wolf Rider infant to deliver to the sinister Winnowill, which broods within the cold halls of Blue Mountain. Could the Cubling be the key to the Dark Lord's plan to get rid of the Cutter's tribe? And how will Two-Edge, half-elf and half-troll, master of games and lies, conspire to tip the scales?
• 19:11
  Tad Eggleston: Final order cut off November 16th in stores on February 16th.
• 19:20
  Tyler Johnson: All right, Phil.
• 19:22
  Tyler Johnson: Sorry.
• 19:23
  Phil: White House Robot Romance from Chip Zdarsky and Rachel Stott over at Distillery. Join them for a sweeping adventure about two robots who defy their programming by going on the run to protect their newfound love. Service 1 and Chef 9 dutifully perform their assigned functions at the White House. Their roles bring them into daily contact, but familiarity means little to robotic programming.
• 19:46
  Phil: Until Chef 9 learns that Service 1 is set to be decommissioned. Chef 9 starts to wonder if their feelings could be something more.
• 19:53
  Phil: The awakening couldn't come at a worse time, as the White House is preparing for conflict with their neighbors to the north. As rumors of violence from Canada begin to threaten the president's invasion plans, the biggest threat might be closer than they realized. A rogue robot with a head full of state secrets.
• 20:10
  Phil: Gonna have a funnel or cutoff November 9th in stores February 23rd.
• 20:15
  Tyler Johnson: The complete Zap comics from R. Crumb and Robert Williams, Gilbert Shelton, and Mob Rides. There scarcely was an underground comic world before Robert Crumb's classic first issue of Zap in 68.
• 20:32
  Tyler Johnson: By Zap 2, he had begun assembling a Seven Samurai of the best, the fiercest, and the most stylistically diverse cartoonists to come out of the countercultural kiln.
• 20:43
  Tyler Johnson: Say that three times. Countercultural Kill. All of them were extremists of one sort or another, from biker gang member Spain Rodriguez to Christian surfer Rick Griffin, but somehow they produced a decade-long collaboration, a mind-blowing anthology of abstract pollution.
• 21:00
  Tyler Johnson: A mind-blowing anthology of abstract hallucination, throat-slashing social satire, and shocking sexual excesses that made possible the ongoing wave of alternative cartoonists like Daniel Close, Chris Ware, and Charles Burns.
• 21:18
  Tyler Johnson: The complete Zap Comics collects every issue of Zap, every cover, and every story in a three-volume slipcase softcover set. They're all here, from Zap Zero, a solo crumb issue, through Zap 16.
• 21:34
  Tyler Johnson: You guys know I love carrying Robert Crumb stuff in my store for sometimes for embarrassing results. Fanographics. This will be out. Oh, actually, final order cut off November 2nd.
• 21:48
  Tyler Johnson: And then we'll be out December 16th.
• 21:53
  Tad Eggleston: All right, who's got final order cutoff?
• 21:55
  Phil: I got it. Okay.
• 21:58
  Phil: Automatic Kafka, the reprint trade of a long out-of-date series from Joe Casey and Ashley Wood over at Image in stores November 25th. Chain Kata number 1 from Daniel Warren Johnson at Image Comics in stores November 18th.
• 22:13
  Phil: Event Horizon Pandemonium number 1 from Christian Ward, Hernan Gonzalez over at IDW.
• 22:21
  Phil: It's probably sometime mid-November. Fire trade paperback of a classic manga reprint from Hideko Mizuno over at Uncivilized Books in stores November 18th.
• 22:32
  Phil: Forgotten Divine from Mark Russell and Russ Braun at Ahoy in stores November 18th. Jean Grey, number 1, from Jed McKay and Roger Antonio at Marvel in stores December 2nd. Lancer, number 1, from Mike Costa and Jake Baker at Bad Idea in stores November 18th.
• 22:51
  Phil: Rampant Swine No. 1 from Simon Spurrier and Christopher Mitten and Brennan Wagner at Ignition Press in stores November 25th.
• 22:59
  Phil: Robin Hood, number one from Nate Cosby, Greg Wiseman, Alessandro Ranaldi, and David Nakayama, probably on the covers, over at Dynamite in stores November 11th.
• 23:12
  Phil: Snail, the one-shot from Garth Ennis and John McCrae at Image Comics in stores November 11th. Swamp Thing is Killing the Children, number one, from James Tynan and Werther Delaudra over at Boom in stores December 2nd. Victoria Jaguar, number one, from Mark London and Marco Rudy at Mad Cave Studios in stores November 11th, and Where Monsters Lie Omnibus from Kyle Starks and Peter Kowalski.
• 23:36
  Phil: Dark Horse in stores, January 19th.
• 23:40
  Phil: Crowdfunding! Crowdfunding next.
• 23:44
  Tad Eggleston: I will jump into these. We have, Death of the Comics Bookcase, Reign of the Comics Bookcases from Zach Quaintance on Kickstarter through October 15th. Check out my discussion with Zach. You Never Know Number 2 from Elliot Mondry and Alicia Madden at Calamity Comics on Kickstarter through October 15th. Check out my discussion with Elliot and Alicia. Lady Mechanic.
• 24:07
  Tad Eggleston: Demon Seed Part 1 from Joe Benitez, JT Curl, Martin Montiel on Kickstarter through October 16th. The Arts of Eddie Campbell, Comic-er from Nick Nia Cluess and Eddie Campbell on Kickstarter through October 20th. Dregs, the quarterly sci-fi fantasy comic book magazine.
• 24:26
  Tad Eggleston: with international indie creators, from Tom Kaczynski.
• 24:30
  Tad Eggleston: Uncivilized on Kickstarter through October 25th. Check out my discussion with Tom. Fever Dream, a cursed comic book by Becky Cloonan at Kinetic Collectibles on Kickstarter through October 29th. I sincerely hope I'll manage to pull off a conversation with Becky.
• 24:49
  Tad Eggleston: But that's not… that's not actually scheduled yet. Yikes.
• 24:55
  Tad Eggleston: So, so that's, that's, that's a fever dream.
• 24:59
  Phil: There you go.
• 25:00
  Tad Eggleston: Dracula Book 4, The Undead for Matt Wagner and Kelly Jones at Orlok Press on Kickstarter through October 31st. Check out my conversation with Matt and Kelly. Launching soon, you have Tezuka, God of Manga, the documentary from Jason Cohn will be on Kickstarter, and Sync
• 25:18
  Tad Eggleston: Number 18, Pineapple, from John Lees and Alex Cormack at Comics Tribe, will also be on Kickstarter.
• 25:27
  Tyler Johnson: All right.
• 25:28
  Tyler Johnson: Next up, we have some humble bundles. Kurt Busiak's Astro City. This is the 30th anniversary, you guys, and like I was just saying off-air, I am really loving this series. I'm buying the Metro books, as well as considering getting this humble bundle.
• 25:46
  Tyler Johnson: For $18, you get 22 items.
• 25:50
  Tyler Johnson: This is going to the Book Industry Charitable Foundation running through October 6th, but it's still up.
• 25:56
  Phil: Standard?
• 25:57
  Tyler Johnson: It must have, because it's still,
• 26:01
  Phil: I was gonna say…
• 26:03
  Tyler Johnson: This is, 4 days left, it says, so it must have been extended.
• 26:10
  Tyler Johnson: Where's the date on these gosh darn things?
• 26:13
  Tad Eggleston: There's not a date, you just gotta do the math.
• 26:16
  Tyler Johnson: Okay.
• 26:17
  Tad Eggleston: Four days left.
• 26:18
  Tad Eggleston: 14. So, so, yeah.
• 26:22
  Tyler Johnson: Next up, we got 50 essential fanographic titles. We were reading through a few of these, these are awesome. $25 gets you 51 items going to the Freedom of the Press Foundation for
• 26:35
  Tyler Johnson: Again, October 7th, but this one is still up, let me check, let me check… Phantographics has…
• 26:45
  Tyler Johnson: Several days left… 12 days left. Okay, so that's been extended to the 22nd.
• 26:52
  Phil: So we could do it again!
• 26:53
  Phil: Yep. Warfare.
• 26:54
  Tad Eggleston: Good.
• 26:56
  Tad Eggleston: We could.
• 26:57
  Tyler Johnson: Batman Day Comics Bundle, book, $20 for 31 items goes to the Book Industry Charitable Foundation. I'm gonna look on that one as well, because it expires today, the 10th, but…
• 27:12
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, in 4 hours, so by the time…
• 27:14
  Phil: Absolutely.
• 27:15
  Tyler Johnson: hear this, Batman will be a moot point. Sorry about that.
• 27:18
  Tad Eggleston: That one probably…
• 27:19
  Phil: Money.
• 27:20
  Tad Eggleston: That one probably will be, too.
• 27:22
  Tyler Johnson: Yep.
• 27:23
  Tad Eggleston: We forgot to put in a date on Dark Places.
• 27:26
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 27:27
  Tad Eggleston: What's the date on that one?
• 27:28
  Tyler Johnson: Dark Places and Endless Night share order from IDW $18 gets 33 items in your basket, and I'm looking right now. Dark Places has got 11 days left.
• 27:41
  Tyler Johnson: So that's gonna go to the 21st, you guys.
• 27:45
  Tyler Johnson: Let's see here. And that's gonna go $18 for 33 items, including Beneath the Trees, Lock and Key, goes to the Book Industry Charitable Foundation.
• 27:57
  Tyler Johnson: And that is it for our Humble Bundles right now.
• 28:04
  Tad Eggleston: Amazing books this week. There were a lot.
• 28:07
  Tyler Johnson: basic.
• 28:08
  Tad Eggleston: books this week.
• 28:09
  Tad Eggleston: But I'm gonna lead off with…
• 28:14
  Tad Eggleston: Moon Eaters from Victor Santos at Titan. This, this… graphic novel was… Like… 3 parts, Elmore Leonard.
• 28:28
  Tad Eggleston: Crime thriller, and… and… one part Creature feature, one part.
• 28:38
  Tad Eggleston: Cult horror.
• 28:41
  Tad Eggleston: And it was just all parts fantastically good, compelling, can't put it down. This was so good. Victor Santos knocks it out again with Moon Eaters.
• 28:53
  Tad Eggleston: Dinner date number one from Joanne Starer and Carrie Randolph at.
• 28:59
  Tad Eggleston: Ignition was also a absolute killer.
• 29:03
  Tad Eggleston: First issue.
• 29:05
  Tad Eggleston: With a nice twist that I'm not gonna give away. And, Starhenge, Book 2, A Kiss for Atticus, number 4, from Liam Sharp at Image. I felt like I hadn't talked about this book enough since we talked to Liam, so I had to…
• 29:22
  Tad Eggleston: had to definitely, bring attention to it. I continue to find Starhenge to be one of the…
• 29:29
  Tad Eggleston: The greatest comics of this.
• 29:31
  Tad Eggleston: This…
• 29:32
  Tad Eggleston: century, and Liam is just, like, killing it. So if you're not reading Starhenish, go get this, and it hopefully will be collected soon.
• 29:46
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah.
• 29:47
  Tyler Johnson: Also.
• 29:49
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, Tyler. You had the demon in there. I was about to put that one as one of my top three, as well as Crowbound number two. But in the end, I went with Beneath the Trees, the Halloween special just came out from Patrick Horvath.
• 30:05
  Tyler Johnson: That was really good. Holy buckets. I really enjoyed that.
• 30:09
  Tyler Johnson: Minor Arcana number 19 from Jeff Lemire and Boom. That series is crazy, because I just picked up the deluxe slipcase edition of, like, that just came out for the first arc or whatever, and now I am stuck buying those versions because I'm a completist.
• 30:29
  Tyler Johnson: Kyle & and OCD and everything else. So yes, it's going to be a minor arcana year for me. Number 19 was awesome.
• 30:39
  Tyler Johnson: And then Something is Killing the Children, number 50 from James Tennion IV and Werther Deladera from Boom.
• 30:48
  Tyler Johnson: I haven't been reading it ongoing, but I did pick up the 50th and just, you know, kind of catch myself up real quick to see what was going on. And I'm going to have to go back and fill in the gaps because that was really good.
• 31:04
  Tyler Johnson: Phil, a walk with Phil.
• 31:06
  Phil: Yeah, yeah, I had a weird week. It was, you know, work's starting to get more, stressful and complicated, so I, I…
• 31:15
  Phil: feel like this week was simultaneously 2 weeks long, like, there was a week between Tuesday and Wednesday somehow, and then, it felt like I was just talking to you guys, like, 5 minutes ago, so…
• 31:27
  Phil: Weird.
• 31:27
  Tyler Johnson: You mean last week?
• 31:28
  Phil: Yeah, yeah, you know, so it's… it's… it's all kinds of, you know, my sense of time.
• 31:34
  Tyler Johnson: With your new job, what's happening?
• 31:37
  Phil: Oh, I mean, it's just the work I actually have to do is complicated, and I don't know how to do it all yet, so it's, you know.
• 31:46
  Phil: Yeah, turns out computers are a heck of a thing.
• 31:51
  Tyler Johnson: I found something that may cheer you up. It is a poster of a kitten hanging from a tree branch, and it says.
• 31:58
  Tyler Johnson: Hang in there.
• 31:59
  Phil: I was gonna say, I mean, that's… that's… I get that… I get that every day with this little guy. You got your…
• 32:04
  Tyler Johnson: Cat. I got my new puppy.
• 32:08
  Phil: Yep.
• 32:09
  Tyler Johnson: This.
• 32:09
  Phil: Tad, where's your animal companion?
• 32:11
  Tyler Johnson: This is…
• 32:12
  Tad Eggleston: I closed the door to keep him out of here.
• 32:14
  Phil: Oh, this is pepper.
• 32:15
  Tyler Johnson: Pots, you guys.
• 32:16
  Phil: Pepper Potts, yep.
• 32:18
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, I call it pepperoni pots.
• 32:20
  Phil: That's funny, that's a good one.
• 32:22
  Tyler Johnson: But…
• 32:23
  Phil: So, so, after, after we're done recording, because we're doing this on Saturday instead of, Sundays like we have been, kind of, sort of, I'm gonna be finishing reading Garden of Sears today, since, you know, I enjoyed it so much last week. And, then, other than that, this week, the only other, you know.
• 32:39
  Phil: comics thing that I've really gotten into. On Blue Sky, there's an account
• 32:44
  Phil: called HARP, the, H-A-A-R-P-B, that does really hilarious, like.
• 32:54
  Phil: hastily drawn comics of just, like, you know, just generic blobs. They will do funny drawings of cats, and they've got, like, kind of an ongoing series, about.
• 33:09
  Phil: Oh,
• 33:11
  Phil: two girls in high school who one is, like, you know, the dirtbag stoner that is obviously a lesbian, and the other is, like, a popular girl who gets a crush on her, and their dynamic together is just hilarious, and it's great. It's really, really great. It was one of those things where…
• 33:31
  Phil: someone just… reposted the latest ones. I don't even remember who.
• 33:36
  Phil: And I started reading, I was like, wow, this is really good, I'm seeing this… this is starting with number 11. Oh, I should probably go back and… and it was a… it was a deep run back, but oh, yeah, it was absolutely fantastic for, like.
• 33:47
  Phil: chaotic DIY, I'm reading it as maybe autobiographical, but I maybe shouldn't, I don't know, who knows? But it's good, it's great.
• 33:58
  Phil: And then I keep grabbing the wrong mouse. Yeah, and then that's, you know, anything else I should read today?
• 34:04
  Phil: Because I actually, I'm… well, I'm between… Too many good things.
• 34:07
  Tad Eggleston: Read hard.
• 34:08
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, man. What should you read?
• 34:11
  Phil: Well, I mean, I'm waiting for, the rest of Goodnight Pun Pun I put in for the last 4 volumes, because, you know, the trend has been, like.
• 34:20
  Phil: I wait, like, a month to get in a volume, and then I read it the day it shows up at the library, so…
• 34:26
  Tyler Johnson: the.
• 34:27
  Phil: Now that I'm moving… yeah, now that I'm… now that I'm…
• 34:29
  Phil: moving soon. I'm like, you know what, I'm just gonna request all these at once, and…
• 34:32
  Tyler Johnson: You should find out, find out from,
• 34:37
  Tyler Johnson: your new city, go Cincinnati, find out first before you go where the comic shops are, where the library is. Yeah. You know what I mean?
• 34:45
  Phil: off.
• 34:45
  Tyler Johnson: Scope all that stuff out ahead of time, so that when you get there, you're, like, integrated already.
• 34:50
  Phil: Yeah, yeah, that's the plan. I mean, I'm hoping that.
• 34:54
  Phil: you know, once we know 100%, because we've still been, like, you know, locking down a place because we're renting, so just the time frame of it all has been weird, and yeah, then I'll, you know, because right now, it's like, I don't want to arbitrarily pick a shop and then be like.
• 35:08
  Phil: Oh, that one's all the way across town, and this other one is right next to home. So yeah, so it's gonna be, absolutely scoping all that out.
• 35:17
  Tyler Johnson: Do you have to sell your house or are you renting the current one?
• 35:20
  Phil: We're in an apartment, so… Yeah.
• 35:23
  Tyler Johnson: Okay.
• 35:23
  Phil: Yeah, okay.
• 35:26
  Tyler Johnson: You know, I can't tell from the photo. It is.
• 35:28
  Phil: It, you know, yeah, my wife does a great job of disguising how, beige our apartment is, so, yeah.
• 35:37
  Phil: So Tad was also becalmed in our.
• 35:41
  Tad Eggleston: I was…
• 35:42
  Phil: race.
• 35:43
  Tad Eggleston: I was becalmed.
• 35:44
  Phil: That's okay.
• 35:45
  Tad Eggleston: Must be calmed. But I was gonna say that, that you will need to… When… when…
• 35:54
  Tad Eggleston: When you have, when you have, have finished your, your…
• 36:02
  Tad Eggleston: moving, we'll have to figure out where you are in connection to Carol Tyler.
• 36:09
  Phil: Oh!
• 36:10
  Tad Eggleston: Cincinnati.
• 36:11
  Phil: Very cool.
• 36:12
  Phil: Yeah, that's awesome. That's… I mean, did she do, Ephemerata?
• 36:18
  Phil: Yeah. Okay, cool. I am thinking of the right person. Yeah, that one looked really… I remember you saying it was really great, so I still need to read that one, but yeah.
• 36:26
  Phil: That's… that's actually one of the big draws to Cincinnati for us, is, also, you know, my wife is, since the job market's
• 36:34
  Phil: rough out there, especially for creatives. She is basically, going all in on crafting, and has found, like, a local store to sell, her cards. She's making a bunch of card sets and, stained glass stuff. So, you know.
• 36:50
  Phil: Cincinnati seems like a cool town for local artists, stuff like that. So that's perfect.
• 36:55
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it's supposed to be a pretty good town.
• 36:58
  Phil: Yeah.
• 36:59
  Tad Eggleston: And the people I've known from there have liked it there.
• 37:03
  Phil: Yeah.
• 37:04
  Phil: Yes.
• 37:06
  Phil: But we're talking Orla this week, aren't we?
• 37:09
  Tad Eggleston: We are. I know Tyler and I had read it before.
• 37:12
  Phil: Yeah, I'd read,
• 37:13
  Tad Eggleston: Now, I don't know what you'd read.
• 37:16
  Phil: I'd read the first issue, and… was immediately like, holy shit, this is great, I need to read the rest of this. But I think it was.
• 37:24
  Tad Eggleston: We should really quickly point out that.
• 37:27
  Tad Eggleston: The reason that Orla popped onto our radar this week is it was a wonderful surprise to see it on the New York Public Library's Top 50 Graphic Novels for Adults this year.
• 37:42
  Phil: Really good.
• 37:43
  Tad Eggleston: And, like, deserving.
• 37:46
  Phil: just.
• 37:47
  Tad Eggleston: flown enough under the radar that it… that I was a little surprised to see it there, and happy that somebody beyond Tyler and I liked it.
• 37:58
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, because I knew how much we liked it on 22 panels, and I knew other people should like it!
• 38:05
  Tyler Johnson: I.
• 38:05
  Tad Eggleston: hadn't felt like it had gotten that level of attention that it deserved. So, it was really cool to see it on this list.
• 38:12
  Phil: For being someone who, you know, read the first issue and was intrigued, I did not… I should have jumped on this. I should have jumped on this way harder. The other funny thing is that since, since we were reading it on Global Comics, so my Amazon tablet does not have a Global Comics app, so I was backed… Oh.
• 38:32
  Tad Eggleston: Oh…
• 38:33
  Phil: phone.
• 38:34
  Tad Eggleston: Look how good this book was.
• 38:35
  Phil: That's how good this book was, is that it read well on the phone, I was still.
• 38:38
  Tad Eggleston: It does.
• 38:39
  Phil: Super engaged. Wow. The colors were popping. The twist at the end of issue 4 had my jaw on the floor.
• 38:48
  Phil: It was… it was great. It's one of those things where I finished reading on the phone, and I was like, holy shit, I need to buy this book so that I can actually have it as a real, real reading experience.
• 38:59
  Tad Eggleston: So, Tyler, you're the actual retailer here, so give us the front counter pitch.
• 39:04
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, if you want a really good mini-series from Mad Cave, here's the thing. Anything from Mad Cave lately is just… I… I love them, right? So you can't go wrong with John Lees, you know, the writer from Sync, as well as Sally Cantrino, right, doing her art.
• 39:22
  Tyler Johnson: I think the art was great for this. And the trade, having all five issues collected is really nice for people to just, I'll be like, here, you need to read this.
• 39:35
  Phil: I.
• 39:36
  Tyler Johnson: wrote this is actually a really cool guy, you know?
• 39:38
  Tad Eggleston: He is, we've talked to him… 5…
• 39:42
  Tyler Johnson: understand.
• 39:43
  Tad Eggleston: 6 or 7 times…
• 39:44
  Phil: I've listened to at least 3 of those episodes, I know.
• 39:49
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, we've had him back.
• 39:51
  Tyler Johnson: people.
• 39:52
  Tad Eggleston: Regularly.
• 39:53
  Tyler Johnson: That Orla is, you know, an antique researcher, I mean, she's obsessed with romance novel romantic crap, you know?
• 40:02
  Tyler Johnson: And then, I don't know. She's got a man-eating monster inside her. What more can you say?
• 40:09
  Phil: I was gonna say, this… if… if you… if you, dear… dear reader, listener, have never been exposed to…
• 40:17
  Phil: subgenre known as Monster Fuckers. This is… this is the Monster Fucker book that everyone should read, even though there's… there's not any… there's just, you know, towards the end, implied, but but yeah, it's… it's really good. Like, seriously, it's one of those books that I'm like.
• 40:33
  Phil: I… I would… it's… it's earned the high praise. I would recommend this to everyone. Like.
• 40:38
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, yeah.
• 40:38
  Phil: If I… if someone comes along and they don't like this book, I'm… I'm like, why?
• 40:44
  Phil: What is wrong?
• 40:45
  Tyler Johnson: If you can imagine, like, if this was a movie, this would be a.
• 40:48
  Tad Eggleston: Well, that that their problem.
• 40:50
  Tyler Johnson: It'll be a rock concert with orange.
• 40:51
  Tad Eggleston: that would be eaten.
• 40:52
  Phil: Exactly!
• 40:54
  Tad Eggleston: If you don't like this book, you would be one of the ones that would be eaten.
• 40:58
  Phil: Yep.
• 40:59
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, you guys, this is so fun. This is, I don't know.
• 41:04
  Tyler Johnson: Like I said, it's like a rom-com. Like, you're like, oh, what's Orla up to? And then you're like, oh, shit!
• 41:11
  Phil: Yeah, It's one of those.
• 41:14
  Tyler Johnson: Facebook?
• 41:14
  Phil: that's… that balance… horror comedy is, like, one of the hardest genre mashups to pull off, but it does it so well. So, so well.
• 41:21
  Tyler Johnson: Cool.
• 41:22
  Tyler Johnson: I think…
• 41:22
  Phil: Sorry to cut you off there.
• 41:24
  Tyler Johnson: No, no, you're absolutely right, right? And then, I don't know, John is, you know, always doing these horror things, right? From Sync, to his wrestling book, to his… I mean, the Mountainhead that he wrote, it's all horror-esque stuff.
• 41:42
  Tyler Johnson: And so the fact that he's trying to tackle this.
• 41:46
  Tyler Johnson: kind of, like, Interesting angle of the dating scene in… is it Seattle or Portland or something?
• 41:53
  Phil: Seattle.
• 41:53
  Tyler Johnson: You know… It's crazy. I think it's just… completely.
• 41:58
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and it should be pointed out.
• 42:00
  Tyler Johnson: He writes.
• 42:00
  Tad Eggleston: John lives in Scotland, so, like… Correct. Getting the feel of Seattle that well is… is also…
• 42:09
  Phil: Does… does, Sally live in Seattle? Is that it?
• 42:13
  Phil: Or…
• 42:15
  Tyler Johnson: International.
• 42:16
  Tad Eggleston: CAC.
• 42:17
  Tyler Johnson: I don't remember. But John is really good at writing, like, for example, the wrestling book that he wrote, really captured the fun and…
• 42:32
  Tyler Johnson: I guess showmanship of American wrestling, right? The, you know, the…
• 42:39
  Tyler Johnson: the scripted wrestling scenario, right? Like he he captured that really well in his book, and I I thought it was really cool.
• 42:48
  Tyler Johnson: Hey, yeah.
• 42:49
  Tad Eggleston: He's from Glasgow.
• 42:50
  Tad Eggleston: Sally is originally from New Jersey, but it's not clear at her website whether she's still there.
• 42:58
  Phil: I see.
• 42:59
  Tad Eggleston: So, so yeah.
• 43:00
  Phil: Alright.
• 43:02
  Tyler Johnson: Okay. Well, guys, Orla, obviously, John, I've talked about this many times. John is a good friend.
• 43:08
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, John's awesome.
• 43:10
  Tyler Johnson: And he's so fun to talk to because he talks very fast in his Glasgowian accent. And so you're like, I think I got that.
• 43:20
  Tad Eggleston: region.
• 43:21
  Tyler Johnson: Glass Weegean, yeah.
• 43:23
  Tad Eggleston: Maybe.
• 43:24
  Tyler Johnson: But anyway, it it's just great. It's so fun to talk to him.
• 43:29
  Tyler Johnson: So I can't wait to hear all about this book when you talk to John again.
• 43:34
  Phil: I…
• 43:34
  Tyler Johnson: Did you talk to him about Orla yet, Ted?
• 43:37
  Tad Eggleston: I talked to John and Sally about Orla, but they might…
• 43:41
  Tad Eggleston: Come back to talk about it again.
• 43:44
  Phil: I mean, especially if there's a sequel. I want a sequel to this, dammit. I want the ongoing saga of Orla, you know?
• 43:51
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 43:53
  Tyler Johnson: You guys think it's weird that like Sally's art has to capture, you know, that cuteness, that swoon, that romanticism, and then, and then the gore.
• 44:03
  Phil: Yeah, and then turn on a dime. That, that was… she's so good at it. She's so good.
• 44:07
  Tyler Johnson: better.
• 44:08
  Phil: having, like, a sweet, like, romantic sort of googly eyes, and then tearing somebody in half. Like, seriously, it's so fucking good.
• 44:17
  Tyler Johnson: You're like God, where is this going to go? Orla's so excited for this date or whatever.
• 44:21
  Phil: Right.
• 44:22
  Tyler Johnson: the.
• 44:24
  Phil: The other funny thing, I don't know about you guys, but I read Gwen, her love interest, as a fictional version of John.
• 44:33
  Tyler Johnson: Did you?
• 44:33
  Phil: I did. I very much did. I hope… I'm sure he'd be okay with it, given that he's, like, the one decent guy in the book.
• 44:43
  Phil: Yeah.
• 44:43
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah.
• 44:45
  Tyler Johnson: I, you know, I know this is kind of weird, but I liked it that they depicted Orla as not the stereotypical bombshell lady that everybody's gonna want to go out with.
• 44:57
  Tyler Johnson: let's be honest, she has a little bit of a hard time finding dates, because, you know, of her size and appearance and stuff like that. And then to eat them, she just totally ruins it, you know?
• 45:08
  Phil: Well, I mean, like, that's… That's one of the elements that… main, like…
• 45:17
  Phil: It… I thought it was great because it… handled the subject of, like.
• 45:24
  Phil: How society treats her without, without feeling cruel at any point. Correct. Like, it… it really…
• 45:35
  Phil: the whole time felt like everything… things were from Orla's point of view, it was sympathetic towards her, I felt like she had agency throughout the whole book.
• 45:44
  Phil: And, like, I think that there's… it's really easy, you know, when you have a story that starts with, this girl is not…
• 45:52
  Phil: a, like you said, a, you know, conventionally attractive, objectifiable character. Correct.
• 46:01
  Tyler Johnson: But but at the same time, I was never once like, god, why did they bring in this ugly girl for this? I was like Exactly.
• 46:06
  Phil: Exactly.
• 46:07
  Tyler Johnson: No.
• 46:08
  Phil: She looks good!
• 46:09
  Tyler Johnson: Yes, exactly. It's the kind of…
• 46:11
  Phil: Yeah, it's the kind of thing where it's like.
• 46:14
  Phil: it really, it really emphasizes, you know, subliminal, like, or subtextually. It subtextually emphasizes how fucked up society is, that…
• 46:24
  Phil: you know, Orla is… is even implicitly outcast. You know, that first page of all the various crazy dates she's been on.
• 46:33
  Phil: This is also… because I showed my wife, like, the first 5 pages of this book, and she's like, I want to read that. So that's the other reason why I need to buy it, is that it's entered the esteemed list of comics she's interested in, you know? Yeah.
• 46:46
  Phil: So, yeah, and I, I…
• 46:49
  Phil: you know, if I was a little more prepared, I would have asked her to read it too, and gotten her thoughts, but she's also asleep right now. So, you know.
• 46:58
  Phil: I don't, I don't, you know, I love my wife so much, but she would, she'd probably be grumpy, being woken up at, like, 7am to talk about a comic book. So, you know.
• 47:09
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, I could see that.
• 47:11
  Phil: So I'll report back. I will report back when she does read it, and… and.
• 47:15
  Tyler Johnson: Great, that would be perfect.
• 47:17
  Phil: Yeah.
• 47:17
  Tyler Johnson: Anyway, guys, I think that was a really good rundown of Oracle.
• 47:22
  Tad Eggleston: I.
• 47:23
  Tyler Johnson: you want to add?
• 47:23
  Tad Eggleston: I do want to toss out that I got to have a surreal experience, too, because I, I shot them an email this week just to congratulate them, and discovered that I was the one informing them that their book was on the news. That's fun. They both missed it.
• 47:41
  Phil: Wow.
• 47:42
  Tyler Johnson: Oh, they didn't know there was a New York Times bestseller?
• 47:44
  Phil: makes.
• 47:45
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, not bestseller. New York Public Library, best of…
• 47:49
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I mean.
• 47:50
  Phil: comics.
• 47:51
  Tyler Johnson: Yep.
• 47:51
  Phil: adults. Yep. You know, alongside those.
• 47:55
  Tad Eggleston: place.
• 47:55
  Phil: of like Fantagraphics and, you know, hoity toity stuff. Yeah. So, yeah.
• 48:01
  Tad Eggleston: So, Yeah, it was, it was kind of a cool, cool experience.
• 48:07
  Tad Eggleston: To, to be able to do that. So, anyway, 3 books we hope will be spectacular.
• 48:16
  Tad Eggleston: Couple of number twos next week that, that, that… Follow after…
• 48:21
  Tad Eggleston: absolutely outstanding debut issues. So I think I'm often more excited for a number 2 than a number 1.
• 48:32
  Tad Eggleston: Does that make sense?
• 48:33
  Tyler Johnson: Yeah, I am always excited for a number two.
• 48:36
  Tad Eggleston: fit.
• 48:37
  Phil: Who's just more going on really?
• 48:38
  Tad Eggleston: I get it, I get it, okay.
• 48:41
  Phil: great.
• 48:41
  Tad Eggleston: Whatever. You guys. Amen!
• 48:44
  Tyler Johnson: No, I agree, Tad, I agree. Number two.
• 48:47
  Tad Eggleston: the.
• 48:48
  Phil: Number twos tend to make more of a splash, if you know what I mean.
• 48:50
  Tad Eggleston: No matter how excited I am.
• 48:55
  Tad Eggleston: about a story before I've read any of it.
• 48:59
  Tad Eggleston: I'm almost always more excited to see it continue if I loved that first issue.
• 49:07
  Tyler Johnson: Yes.
• 49:07
  Phil: If fans.
• 49:08
  Tyler Johnson: Secondly, if the setup is good enough, the second issue is where things just really move.
• 49:16
  Tad Eggleston: So.
• 49:16
  Phil: Start to walk.
• 49:19
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah.
• 49:21
  Tad Eggleston: No Gods, No Masters No. 2 from Julio Anta and Jacoby Salcedo at Boom is coming out this week, as well as The Forever Home No. 2 from Christian Ward and Sammy Cavella at Oni.
• 49:35
  Tad Eggleston: Not a number 2, but a number 3, Batman and Robin Year 1, Dynamic Duos from Mark Waid and Chris Samney rounds out my top 3 that I'm looking for. Books I know are spectacular are the Galactic Baseball League Volume 1,
• 49:53
  Tad Eggleston: Time travel, sci-fi.
• 49:56
  Tad Eggleston: Baseball from Ackie Bright involving actual Major League players, from Viz Comics. And, Worst Man from Branton Stein at Titan. I love this book so much.
• 50:10
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah. Also, if you've been sleeping on End of Life from Kyle Starks and Steve Pugh, this week is your opportunity to get caught up with the first tradeback volume.
• 50:22
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah.
• 50:24
  Tad Eggleston: Phil, I like you.
• 50:27
  Phil: Did you almost call me?
• 50:28
  Tad Eggleston: I almost called you Tad.
• 50:29
  Phil: Oh, okay.
• 50:30
  Tad Eggleston: You Ted, because it's Ted Brandt and Rose Stein.
• 50:33
  Phil: Oh, there we go, there we go.
• 50:34
  Tad Eggleston: What's your, giant size trade waiter pick?
• 50:38
  Phil: That is also Worst Man, from Bradenstein, hitting the American shores, because apparently it was released a couple months ago in the UK.
• 50:46
  Tad Eggleston: Was it?
• 50:47
  Phil: Yeah, that's what I believe they said that I think it came out in like August 25th in the UK and then.
• 50:51
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 50:52
  Phil: is just now coming out in the US.
• 50:55
  Tad Eggleston: Gotcha.
• 50:55
  Phil: It sounds great. I'm also excited for their Vertigo book that got announced. I forgot that with the news of note. It's gonna be… I think it's called Dreambound? It's gonna be interacting with the other series, Fanatic, that looks really, really cool.
• 51:08
  Tad Eggleston: Cool. No, I didn't see… I didn't see the Vertigo news yet. Yeah.
• 51:12
  Phil: They're vertigo.
• 51:12
  Tad Eggleston: That's exciting.
• 51:13
  Phil: Creators, yeah.
• 51:14
  Phil: You know? That's very exciting.
• 51:17
  Tad Eggleston: Very exciting. I've liked their, webtoon comic.
• 51:22
  Phil: Oh, nice.
• 51:23
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 51:24
  Tad Eggleston: So, anyway.
• 51:27
  Tad Eggleston: I think that wraps us up, and somehow… somehow, once we actually got going, we were… we were pretty tight.
• 51:34
  Phil: Zipping that mug.
• 51:36
  Tad Eggleston: Tyler, you want to take us out?
• 51:38
  Tyler Johnson: Well, before… before I do that, like, I think going forward, you know, we should be able to keep it pretty concise if we're gonna split up, duties for the…
• 51:48
  Tyler Johnson: For the rundown.
• 51:49
  Tad Eggleston: I think… I think it, is helpful sometimes, yeah.
• 51:54
  Tyler Johnson: Okay. Anyway, guys, thanks for listening. This has been fun. What episode is this? 257 if that is accurate.
• 52:02
  Tad Eggleston: I believe it is, yes.
• 52:04
  Tyler Johnson: Alright, well, thanks for listening, and we'll catch you guys after the next page.
• 52:09
  Tyler Johnson: Later!