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How to Introduce Your Doodle to a New Baby: Dog Meets Baby, Part 2 · The Doodle Pro®: Positive Dog Training for Calm Doodles

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome back, Doodle Pro Nation.
• 0:02
  SPEAKER_00: This is part two of my conversation with Dominica from Dog Meets Baby.
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_00: If you missed part one, here's the short version.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_00: Dominica is a certified dog trainer who brought newborn twins home to a dog every trainer friend trusted.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_00: What happened in the first few seconds became her life's work.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_00: In part one, she covered what really changes for your doodle when little ones arrive, when to start preparing, and the myths that need to go, including the baby blanket from the hospital.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_00: And a reminder: no baby required for this one.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_00: If your doodle's world includes grandkids, nieces and nephews, or the kids down the block, every how-to today applies to you.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_00: Part two is the how-to's.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_00: I left off asking her to walk me through the first meeting.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: Where's the dog?
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_00: Where's the baby?
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: Who does what?
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: Her answer starts with a step most families never think about, and it happens before the baby is even in the room.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_00: From there, we get into why jumping is the behavior that quietly pushes families towards rehoming and why it doesn't have to.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_00: We talk about what changes the day a baby starts crawling and why almost no dog sees it coming.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_00: Dominica explains the lick that is asking for distance, not affection, and she shares the bubble trick that works on two-year-olds.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_00: And she covers the warning signs that mean it's time to call a professional and not wait it out.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a proud affiliate of Dog Meets Baby, and her courses and complimentary prep checklist are at the doodlepro.com slash dogmeets baby.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I'll throw it in the show notes too.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'm Corinne Gearhart.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_00: Let's jump back in.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, that's a great question.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_01: We have home birth, then we have a hospital birth, and then we need to decide where the dog is going to be.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_01: Is the dog staying home or is the dog going to stay somewhere else?
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_01: So this is where we would start.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_01: And if the dog is home, then of course it's going to be a little, and let's say it's whether it's a home birth or you're coming home, then it's going to be a little bit different than if the dog is going to come after the baby is already home.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_01: And let's say you can bring the dog day three or day ten or day 10, right?
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_01: So this is first.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_01: I I have this preparation checklist that you can, it's free, you can download this, and it walks you through this.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_01: So you can really plan this.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_01: And how you decide is of course a lot of times you that's the easiest choice or the the the most convenient choice for the family, but I would also take into consideration your dog.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_01: So if let's say you have a doodle that really struggles with change, a new environment would really negatively impact their well-being and behavior, because that would be a big change for them.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe having having someone stay at your house, my house sitter instead of a house setter.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_01: Ideally, someone that they know, right?
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_01: Or maybe this is going to be your parent or someone that they know.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_01: This might be a much better solution for a dog that you don't want to complicate your life, and this could be a complication.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_01: If you have a very easy outgoing dog who's just like the life of the party, and this yeah has boarded before and loves to play, and you have someone that was my Lola, yes, of course, you know, send them to the to the place that they're going to have.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_01: But this is actually a very important step, and I really want people to think like choose something that works for you, but also works for your dog, and then when you because if it if this step goes wrong and your dog is very stressed, it will impact the first meeting.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_01: But let's say so, but but you can always there are ways to make it better later.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_01: But let's say everything went well, you're coming home.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the first step would be meet your dog without your baby.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_01: Your dog will be very excited to see you, they may they may even try to jump on you.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is also a great way to get the scent because that they will have this, you will have the scent of your baby on you.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_01: So a lot of times you will notice that your dog might be sniffing a little bit longer.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's a great way to you will be excited to see your dog.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_01: So do this first.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_01: And then if let's say you're coming with the your baby is in the car seat, let's say your dog is home, let them sniff the car seat without the baby.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_01: Someone is holding the baby, you let them sniff the car seat.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_01: That's always a good first step.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I would recommend that someone takes your dog for a walk or just plays with them.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_01: They I don't want them to be full of energy, we want them to be a little bit tired and have some chews prepared or some good puzzle toys so we can have something for them when we bring the baby.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, it's I think many parents they like to introduce the baby right away, but you don't have to.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_01: It's and if your space allows for that, let's say you have a two-story house and you won't you feel anxious and you you're not ready.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's okay, it's okay.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_01: You can have the baby upstairs.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_01: Your dog doesn't have to meet the baby right away.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, they're the baby and they're going to be curious.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_01: That's why I recommend that we introduce baby sounds.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_01: And but they're going to smell the baby, you can still give them love and treats and let them get used to the baby in a way that feels good to you.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_01: And how you do the first meeting, the dog can be the child can be in their, let's say, in the crib.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_01: This is what I did, and I'm so glad that this is how I did this.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_01: So the child can be in the crib, the child can be in the car seat.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_01: You can hold your baby too, just make sure that there are no dangling feet.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_01: This is important.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_01: I want the baby to be swaddled.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_01: If it's summer and it's hot, then it might be a little bit tricky, but make sure that there are no dangling feet in case the dog jumps up and tries to grow.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_01: They might sometimes it could be are you holding a toy, or you if you let's say have not worked on your dog jumping up when you hold something, and some people jump up for a sandwich, right?
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_01: People jump up for a toy.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_01: If they jump up for a sandwich, for a toy, for everything, they might just jump up because that's what they do, not because of the baby.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_01: So I also want to I want to remind parents it may not be about the baby, it may be just your dog's default behavior when you hold something.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_01: That's why I recommend addressing jumping, because jumping is actually one of the things that I have parents who told me that jump because of jumping, they consider rehoming because it's so out of control, and they just it's fixable, and yeah, because they worry about their child's safety, of course, and so that like honestly, jumping and barking are the two behaviors that probably are top reasons for not the growling at a child, that happens less, but the barking and the jumping, right?
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_01: So these are like because doodles tend to be vocal and jumpy, and jumpy.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_01: So I will I wanted to mention this.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_00: These are the two behaviors that we definitely want to work on, and it's gonna pay off in dividends, yes, because as your child gets older, when they want to have friends over, a little four-year-old's gonna get bowled over, yeah, by a doodle trying to jump on them to greet them, even though it might be exuberant and pro-social, and yes, oh no, that's what I was thinking, yes, yeah.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_00: And so you're going to be happy for years that you put that work in on getting a hold on the jumping.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_01: 100%.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_01: I couldn't agree more.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, so back to the greeting.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the greeting.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_01: So the step, the one step that I missed in my greeting routine is that I didn't give Lola time to sniff from a distance because I was so convinced that things are going to go well.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_01: And had I done this, I would have noticed, which I did, but it was too late.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_01: Her body language.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_00: The signs that came out.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_01: The signs, exactly.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_01: So I always tell parents give yourself and give your dog a little bit of time, just so you know that they and I give in my first meeting course, I give examples of dogs that are just curious, an example of a dog that is a little bit more than curious, right?
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like, where you shouldn't really let them greet the child because that's what that that is a very small but a very important step, and yeah, and then keep it short and sweet.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_01: Some dogs will be some dogs, may act as if they're they don't care, and that's okay.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_01: That's okay too.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_01: Some people are like, I don't think my dog knows there is a baby, and that's okay too.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_01: Some dogs might whine a little bit, just keep it short and sweet.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's a it's a novelty, it's a change.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's we don't really know.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_01: So if I have to say one thing that I have learned from my experience and of other parents, is that we really don't know how the dog is going to behave until your dog meets the baby.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_01: You may have ideas, you may know pretty well how your dog is going to act, but you're never going to know for sure.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_01: And it it's it could it could come as a surprise.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_01: Most emails that I receive when it didn't go well start with I didn't see it coming.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_01: I never right imagine this is not my dog, I don't know what happened.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_01: My dog is this is not, I'm not making this up.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_01: The the these are real stories, and this is my story, too.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and uh I have a just this Labrador retriever, yellow Labrador retriever, a dog that typical Labrador retriever who loves everyone, yeah.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_01: Family dog, she loved everyone, would walk away with a stranger in a second, right?
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_01: She's that very comfortable with handling, very well trained.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not talking a dog that I would it would it never crossed my mind, and I didn't know much about it.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_01: And another thing is I I want to tell parents who are listening or expecting parents this is very rare.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_01: The my what my experience is how Lola reacted, but what I have learned working with many families is that a lot of times it what happens is not what you expect, and it's both ways.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes dogs that people assume bad things are going to happen, they're actually amazing with the child, and they're just so great.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_01: I get so many emails where people tell me they have two dogs, and they say it's the opposite of what I expected.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_01: The dog that was I thought will be so easy and just don't care.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_01: This is the one who struggles, and the other one, my my problem child, amazing.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: Something else that catches people off guard is the milestone of when their baby starts crawling and how that kind of changes the game.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_00: What changes when your baby becomes that little crawling toddler?
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: Everything, everything.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_01: I think because the dogs they don't know, it's very important to remember your dog doesn't know that your baby will be crawling.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_01: They have seen crawling children, maybe they have seen toddlers, they don't know that this one at your house will crawl one day, and that comes as a shock.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_01: I have some videos from parents where the dog is just panicked, and they can do that.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_01: You can see that big question mark where the dog is like, What is going on?
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_01: and some dogs run away, some dogs play bow, some dogs hide, some dogs look very confused, sometimes they grow because they don't they're very surprised.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's very rarely that they will be like, Oh, amazing, you're moving, let's play, right?
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like, we're I'm loving it.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_01: No, one of the it never really goes this way.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_01: So, yes, so you this is that's why I'm saying many things change, and a lot of times the first thing that the dog that the kids crawl out to is the doggy.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, because I mean it's a living creature in your house, and your dog has been watching for such a long time, and it's just it has a tail and it has ears, right?
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: Those little chubby fingers want to just yeah, grab on.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what they want to do.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_01: They want to grab on and just touch and explore.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, they're all about exploring, so they're going to do the same to your dog, and very few dogs are okay with this, or they might be initially, but then when your child goes on and on, yes, or they always really hurts, and then another thing, it's unpredictable because it changes all the time.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_01: The way kids crawl, it also changes, and that it's never the same, and dogs are not very let's say they're naturally suspicious when things stand out or unpredictable.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_01: So, to them, this is not something that you should just be okay with it, right?
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_01: This is something that so the dogs become it depends on the dog what happens, but most dogs most people that don't see the changes in the dog's body language because they're very subtle.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_01: And my Instagram algorithm decided to torture me, and now every day, every day I see videos of people sharing the pretty much this age group, and it's always they love each other, best friends, yes, best friends, and all I see is those poor dogs showing all the subtle signs of stress.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, none of them is excited, and I can even tell that this is a setup.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_01: You can tell that the dog is not there voluntarily, that this is just for likes, and there's a tolerating happening, yeah.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, not and that's really sad.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like I was just what a great day in a play pen, and you can tell this dog is it that just it wouldn't choose to do that, it wouldn't choose.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_01: You can tell the body language is just like it's so clear the dog was just put there, and the dog doesn't want to be there.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_01: Oh no, he chose to hang out together, and this is his favorite spot.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_01: I don't see it, and some people don't see it, but then when you look at the comments, sadly, many people think it's okay and think it's so beautiful and so cute, and they love each other so much.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_01: And what I what worries me that people who post this, their dogs are tolerant still, or they are just more tolerant, and then people do it with dogs that are much less tolerant, yeah, and then they're surprised that what they saw online and looked so cute, or people thought it was cute, suddenly their dog stopped.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: And if your dog is laying still while your toddler is climbing all over them or laying against them while they're sleeping or something, it dog trainers study this body language.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're looking for things you might not have been told to look for.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: So we're looking for what we call whale eye, where you see the whites of their eyes, or the frozen face, or the stiffness in the muscle, or a tilt of an ear.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_00: So it's I don't think it's people are willfully ignoring their dog's kind of silent cry for help.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: I don't actually like this.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_00: But to those of us who study it, it they're screaming to us.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: But I don't think that it's on purpose, and I feel like it's just a miscommunication between the pup and the human parent.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think it's on purpose because most parents, I hope, or no parents want their child to be hurt.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: But what what I find surprising, sometimes there is a comment from a person who knows body language is not of a happy dog, and they point it out.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: And then many parents say, Oh, I know my dog very well, and my dog is you're like, This is not my dog's body language.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_01: My dog's body language he licks because he loves my child, right?
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_01: Not it's not the it's not the stay away licking, the the kiss to dismiss licking, right?
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: This is not it, and they just think that their dog is different, and their dog has a different behavior.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: The exception, yes, it's just it's not we don't, and of course, when you look at the dog, uh when you analyze dog behavior, we look at the all the signs, the context, and the individual and the individual dog.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, you have consideration, but it's not like that.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: That what I'm seeing is is something else with your dog, because your dog's licks that in that context look like your dog really doesn't like the child to touch them.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_01: But you're telling me that your dog is kissing your child.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_01: Unfortunately, you're not right, and then and that's actually a big myth that you're pointing out.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yes, that all licks are kisses and signs of affection.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, that's a good one.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so can you you just said the no thank you licks or dismissive licks, or what was the phrase you used for it?
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's kiss to dismiss, some people call it.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: And can you explain why a dog might still be licking trying to say no, even though we've given it uh affectionate label all the time?
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there are licking is very confusing, and and yes, many people think it's the it's the affection, but it can mean so many different things that this is your dog's way of calming their nervous system down.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_01: It could be that your dog tries to calm you down to stop you from doing something that makes them nervous, usually a child, and then you'll see the these the pushy legs, or this is your dog licking the child because there's food on their face.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_01: It could be too.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_01: So it's there are just many, there are many different meanings.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes it's yeah, sometimes it's the the taste or smell of the skin, but a lot of times with children, if your child approaches and pets the dog and they start licking, and that the ears are back, and the tension in the body, and you just don't see the excitement.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_01: So, this a simple test is when your dog licks you, and they this is I think it's excitement, it's or oh, it could be also excitement, right?
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_01: Like, but let's say this is your dog excited or happy to see you or affectionate, just take a mental picture of what you're seeing.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_01: Look at the tail, look at the body, look at the head, just scan your even take a picture, a short video.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: So you know, this is my dog, happy body language with happy license, and then compare it to your dog licking your child.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_01: And if you notice that it's the opposite, the rest of the body, it's probably not your happy and excited dog, it's probably your dog just trying to ask for distance.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: And this applies not only to children, so this applies to doodle parents everywhere when anyone's greeting your dog.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: I notice the, and if a dog feels like threatened by another dog, if they're like standing over them or pinned them, you'll see a dog do this kind of lick and it's like an appeasement.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'm no threat, I'm no threat.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_00: I notice, tell me if you see the same, it looks like a lizard, yeah, kind of lick as opposed to like soft, smooth.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: And what I teach is do a consent test.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: So hands off, don't you're not leaning over or engaging.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: If the dog walks away or stops engaging, they were saying no, thank you in the most gentle way they could.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: If they come back full body wiggles and keep going and are searching for those pets, that was excited to see you.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_00: And that's how I like to be able to tell what is that lick telling me?
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_01: True.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I agree.
• 21:22
  unknown: Okay.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: I you and I am sure could talk for a full hour about working with toddlers, respecting a doodle space.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: That's meat in its own.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: Do you have a tip, just if somebody has, say, a two year old, how to communicate in a way a two year old understands about not climbing on and grabbing your doodle's coats fur?
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_01: I do.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know if you know that, but I wrote a children's book and I published it last year.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_01: And my children, they also drew some illustrations.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I didn't realize that.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Oh I love that.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: And this is this all goes back to what I did with them when they started walking or and they wanted to get closer to Lola.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_01: I and I didn't always wanted to have a crate, have a gate.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_01: It was like for a number of reasons.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_01: I was it's and I know that many parents, if you're not if you're at a point where maybe it's you don't really need the gate all the time, or you don't want to have a gate, but you need something, you need something to stop your child from approaching your dog.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: So I we decided that Lola lives in a bubble, and when she's in she especially when she's always in a bubble, but when she's napping or she's resting, she's in her bubble, and we do not approach her because that's when we're going to pop her bubble and she's not going to feel very safe and she doesn't like it.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_01: Because bubbles, children love bubbles, and it's such an easy concept.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's such a it's one that really they remember, they understand.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's not something that you have to explain.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: It works much better than don't touch, don't approach.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_01: Put your dog in that bubble or your pet.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: And it works like magic many times because the children remember this, and then you can build on that and tell them, like, we can wave or we can blow a kiss or we can love their kids, right?
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_01: That we can call the dog to us, but it's something that gives them a very tangible way to do it, to be safe around animals, and it's something that you can also do on walks, remind them that give give bubble space.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_01: So, Emmy, she's a trainer, she works for Dog Meets Baby, she has two toddlers, and she uses this a lot with her toddlers.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_01: She likes remember bubble space, yeah, and this is such a great concept, and she says that now she uses it when they wait in line, and there are other people in front of them.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's great, right?
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_01: Bubble space on your own, and let's say there are people walking next to you.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_01: Remember bubble space, such a great concept, and it's so universal.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_01: So, teaching this, I think this is this was like my breakthrough, and yeah, now it's a story, Lola and the bubble mission.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_01: And this is I find this one the most effective with children.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_00: I will share that in the notes with the link so people can find that.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: What are the early warning signs that say to a pet parent, I need to call a professional now?
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: Versus this is just normal adjustment when it comes to dogs and children or the newborns or the toddlers, or say all the above, all the above.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so with the newborns, I would say if your dog it's been two weeks, let's say, and there's no change in behavior, I would call it professional.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_01: Don't wait too long.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_01: I think that people make this mistake sometimes that they wait too long and it's just much harder to undo later, and it's it's very stressful if it keeps happening.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_01: So if your dog barks and lunges and growls and just goes after the baby, or just and it's not just the dog trainer.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: If your dog hides and stops eating, call your vet as soon as possible.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_01: Or if you're got if your dog starts having accidents in the house and it's body trained, you need to talk to a professional.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like if your dog, if you hear a growl, if your child, let's say, moved or grabbed your dog, right?
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: And you know that this happened because it was actually painful.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's not that you have to, it would be great if you did it, but it's it's not.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_01: I want you to think of it as a warning.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_01: Thank your dog, yes, and then you have to change something if you want to keep your dog.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: You and don't do it on your own.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_01: You can there whether you work with a professional or you you buy a course.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_01: This is the moment when you have to start changing things in a way that will guarantee that your child will be safe and your dog will be safe.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, trainer will be ideal, but I all the time, but yes, yeah, all the time.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_01: But this is I do understand it's not always in the budget.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_01: I have the pre-mobile and mobile baby courses.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_01: This is something that I tell parents do it now, because later you will be calling someone after a bite if you don't change anything.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_01: There is that that can happen if you don't implement changes, so yeah, the these are probably the main, but of course, if your dog the one if your dog bites your child, you always should work with a professional.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, if and I like this one, is to me that one would be non-negotiable, and a certified yes, certified trainer, someone who knows what they do and not someone who uses aversives, it's going to uh shock your dog and punish the warnings, yeah.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and punish the warnings.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_01: So this is but if you want to keep your dog and you want your dog to live with your child and maybe future children, and there is a bite, or your dog has bite history and now is warning your child, growling at your child.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, let's get some help.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_00: Let's get some help for doodle parents watching with kids of any age, newborn to teenager.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_00: If they could jump into one thing today, what would it be?
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_01: I so I I had many doodles for board and train, and my children were.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_01: We started board and train when they were two and a half, and then we did it until they were six and a half, and then we moved, and and then we got our puppy, and that was a lot came over, yeah.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, so that was my board and train long-term project.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_01: So, but for four years, we had pretty much always a second dog for board and train, sometimes two, and eighty percent were doodles, large, large doodles, yeah, not small.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'm talking like a large 60, 70, 80, our standards, yes.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_01: I absolutely love the playful nature.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_01: I think that the biggest thing is that if your dog likes to play, that's actually amazing with children, like for an app.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, they can bond in such an amazing way, and they with the treats, you have to watch out if they have a sensitive tummy, no, right?
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_01: So you may need to you like here, you have to like definitely.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_01: This is something where I would with doodles, that's one thing that I would watch for the kids dropping the food because that can actually lead to issues.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_01: So you have to, I'm not saying it's a no, but you have to be very careful here.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, but when it comes to play, all the doodles that stay with us were just so playful, and that was amazing because that's when the the dogs are like, Oh, I have another person to play with me.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, this is so much fun, and if you of course I would still work on the jumping and the rules, but I have so many videos of my four-year-olds jumping with like doing the like agility training with the dog and playing with them and playing fetch, and just just running together.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, the dog cannot jump on them, but just having fun together.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_00: You and I I didn't realize had this in common that I've raised my children too, doing board and trains with noodles, and it has been such a bonding thing for us to fall in love with these dogs together and always extra hands for belly rubs and fetch and flirt poles and yes, yeah.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_01: Once they were, yeah, once they were six and a half, six, yeah, flirt pull too.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: I one of the doodle waffles, so we had pisco source.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_01: Guess who was named sour were the parents naming waffles?
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_01: They already had children.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_01: So this was just such a great dog, and it was just my daughter was coming from kindergarten, and she was just playing with waffles for an hour because they both loved it.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, just playing together, so player the doodle.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_01: You can do so many, yeah.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_01: You can do because uh the the true that there was like fun training and play.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_01: I loved it.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_01: I was we moved and then we got a Spanish water dog, and but I was like I was already looking into burner doodles because of the experience with waffles.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_00: So you stayed with the coat care needs.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I did, yeah.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_01: No, actually, you know that the Spanish water dogs, it's very unique breed.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_01: You do not brush them.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_00: Is this the same as the Portuguese water dog?
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_01: No, oh okay, no, it's very it's the one, it's it's they're very easy.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_01: That's one of those.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_01: Love it.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, very jealous.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_01: Oh no, that these are like once the fair is long, use your finger to yeah, you don't you never use any any brush on them or any comb.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_01: But we just keep it, we keep the short the first shortcut shortcut, yeah.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's just with kids.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_00: If I had to do this, no, it's hard enough to just get our own hair done.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, thank you so much.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to share the links to your book and your freebie with your complimentary prep checklist.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_00: Where can people follow you and watch some of these great videos and keep learning from you?
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_01: On my website, dogmeets baby.expert on Instagram or baby.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_01: I think these would be two main platforms.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_00: Wonderful.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much, Dominica.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_00: This has been such a treat.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for having me.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_00: You've been extra generous with your time.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Dominica, for bringing that to DoodlePro Nation.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_00: Her book, Lola in the Bubble Mission, her courses, and her prep checklist are all at thedoodlepro.com slash dogmeets baby.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_00: Now, if there's one thing I want you to take from these two episodes, it's this.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_00: Almost every how-to Dominica gave you today stands on the same foundation.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_00: Good things happen on the dog bed.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_00: Your doodle can be on the other side of the gate without a meltdown.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_00: Your doodle can safely park it while you hold the baby or while a toddler crawls past.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_00: And that's just as true when the grandkids visit, when your niece wants to share her snack, or when a sweet little voice on your walk says, Can I pay your dog?
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: Kids show up in every doodle's life, whether they live with you or not.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_00: A calm doodle around kids is not something a doodle arrives with.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's a skill you build in tiny reps.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_00: And it holds because your doodle was shown exactly what to do and paid for doing it.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_00: If your doodle can't do that yet, the settled doodle is where you build it.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_00: No live calls, no schedule, five minutes on a mat at your doodle's pace.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_00: There are 15 short task sets, and you always know when you're done with one because your doodle stays relaxed three out of five tries.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_00: Then you move up.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's at the doodlepro.com slash settled doodle.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_00: Give a belly rub to your doodle for me.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_00: This is the Doodle Pro Podcast, where we celebrate how doodles are different.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_00: Wonderfully so.