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- 0:04Speaker 1: Is four in the morning and someone you will never
- 0:06Speaker 1: meet is already on their knees not because they feel
- 0:10Speaker 1: inspired not because the alarm demanded it because 30 years
- 0:15Speaker 1: ago brother Thomas made a decision and this morning like
- 0:19Speaker 1: every morning that decision is simply executing itself that detail
- 0:24Speaker 1: stopped me the first time I heard it 30 years
- 0:28Speaker 1: no alarm no applause what does a person know after
- 0:32Speaker 1: 30 years of that that the rest of us are
- 0:35Speaker 1: still waiting to figure out. That question is what this
- 0:39Speaker 1: episode is about. Brother Thomas wakes at four in the morning,
- 0:43Speaker 1: stone floor beneath bare feet. Two hours of silence ahead.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Some mornings his mind arrives clean. Other mornings it arrives
- 0:52Speaker 1: full of grocery lists and low-level irritation toward a novice
- 0:56Speaker 1: in the next room who snores. And on those mornings,
- 1:00Speaker 1: the annoying mornings, the distracted mornings, he kneels and he
- 1:05Speaker 1: That single fact dismantles something most people believe without knowing
- 1:09Speaker 1: they believe it. Most people believe that discipline is a feeling,
- 1:15Speaker 1: a surge of clarity that arrives and carries you forward.
- 1:20Speaker 1: You wait for it. You try to manufacture it. You
- 1:24Speaker 1: scroll through motivational content at 11 at night, hoping something
- 1:28Speaker 1: will ignite, and occasionally it does for a few days.
- 1:33Speaker 1: Then it fades. And you conclude that you are not
- 1:37Speaker 1: the kind of person who has discipline. You are simply
- 1:41Speaker 1: waiting for a feeling that never intended to stay. 3,000
- 1:45Speaker 1: miles from that stone floor, Staff Sergeant Maria Santos is
- 1:49Speaker 1: on her fifth mile. It is dark when she starts.
- 1:52Speaker 1: It will still be dark when she finishes. No one
- 1:55Speaker 1: is watching. No one will know she ran this morning.
- 1:59Speaker 1: She will not tell them. In three weeks, 19 people
- 2:03Speaker 1: from her squad will deploy with her. and their survival
- 2:06Speaker 1: may depend on decisions she makes under pressure, in conditions
- 2:11Speaker 1: that do not forgive weakness. She is not running because
- 2:14Speaker 1: she wants to. She is running because those 19 people
- 2:18Speaker 1: are an obligation she chose before she ever laced up
- 2:21Speaker 1: this morning's shoes. Five miles down, five to go, the
- 2:26Speaker 1: cold fills her lungs. Meanwhile, in a studio apartment in Brooklyn,
- 2:32Speaker 1: a painter named Maya Chen is sitting in front of
- 2:35Speaker 1: a blank canvas. There is a cup of coffee on
- 2:38Speaker 1: the table beside her. It has gone cold. She has
- 2:42Speaker 1: not touched it since she sat down. She is staring
- 2:45Speaker 1: at the white surface, and nothing inside her wants to begin.
- 2:49Speaker 1: She has been here before. 4,380 mornings before, to be exact.
- 2:56Speaker 1: 12 years of this chair, this light, this specific resistance.
- 3:01Speaker 1: In those 12 years, She has sold exactly seven pieces, seven.
- 3:07Speaker 1: She works four hours every morning before taking the train
- 3:11Speaker 1: to an accounting job. And then she comes home, and
- 3:14Speaker 1: sometimes she paints again. No gallery has called. No critic
- 3:19Speaker 1: has written her name. The canvas does not care how
- 3:22Speaker 1: many consecutive days she has shown up. She picks up
- 3:25Speaker 1: the brush. Here is what Brother Thomas, Sergeant Santos, and
- 3:30Speaker 1: Maya Chen share. And it is not talent, and it
- 3:33Speaker 1: is not passion, and it is not a morning routine
- 3:37Speaker 1: you can copy from a productivity blog. What they share
- 3:40Speaker 1: is a decision that was made before the moment arrived.
- 3:44Speaker 1: The moment of resistance is not the moment of choice.
- 3:48Speaker 1: The choice happened earlier, in a quieter hour, with less
- 3:52Speaker 1: emotion in the room. By the time four in the
- 3:55Speaker 1: morning comes, by the time mile five arrives, by the
- 3:58Speaker 1: time the canvas is white and the coffee is cold,
- 4:02Speaker 1: the decision is already made. The body is simply following
- 4:06Speaker 1: instructions issued by a former version of itself. That is
- 4:10Speaker 1: the thing the Stoics understood, that most of us spend
- 4:13Speaker 1: years resisting. Marcus Aurelius ruled an empire. He fought wars
- 4:19Speaker 1: on multiple fronts. He wrote the thoughts we now call
- 4:22Speaker 1: the meditations not as philosophy. For posterity, he wrote them
- 4:27Speaker 1: as private discipline tools, reminders to himself on days when
- 4:31Speaker 1: he did not want to be Marcus Aurelius. He wrote,
- 4:35Speaker 1: and these are his exact words, you have power over
- 4:38Speaker 1: your mind, not outside events. Realize this, and you will
- 4:43Speaker 1: find strength. He was not writing that to inspire a stranger.
- 4:47Speaker 1: He was writing it because he needed to hear it
- 4:50Speaker 1: that morning, in that tent, before whatever was coming next,
- 4:54Speaker 1: which means the man who is still quoted 2,000 years
- 4:58Speaker 1: later needed the same reminder you needed last Tuesday. But
- 5:02Speaker 1: here is the problem with simply knowing that. Knowing the
- 5:06Speaker 1: principle does not move the body. Knowing that you should
- 5:09Speaker 1: act does not dissolve the weight in your chest at
- 5:12Speaker 1: four in the morning. There is a gap between understanding
- 5:15Speaker 1: and doing, and the Stoics named it clearly. Epictetus taught
- 5:19Speaker 1: that we are not disturbed by events, but by our
- 5:23Speaker 1: judgments about events. The resistance you feel before beginning is
- 5:27Speaker 1: not a signal that the task is wrong. It is
- 5:30Speaker 1: a judgment Your mind is making, and that judgment can
- 5:34Speaker 1: be questioned. Brother Thomas does not suppress the irritation about
- 5:38Speaker 1: the snoring novice. He notices it, he acknowledges it, and
- 5:43Speaker 1: then he kneels because the irritation is information, not direction.
- 5:48Speaker 1: That distinction, information, not direction, is the hinge everything, everything
- 5:55Speaker 1: else turns on. Here is the shift that changes everything.
- 6:00Speaker 1: and it is not the one you were expecting. You
- 6:04Speaker 1: have been waiting for the right feeling, the surge of energy,
- 6:07Speaker 1: the clarity, the moment when your body and mind align
- 6:11Speaker 1: and the path forward feels obvious. That is the motivation trap,
- 6:16Speaker 1: and every person who has ever abandoned a goal fell
- 6:19Speaker 1: into it, not because they were weak, because they were
- 6:22Speaker 1: waiting for something that was never designed to arrive on schedule.
- 6:26Speaker 1: Marcus Aurelius understood this. at a level most people never reach.
- 6:31Speaker 1: He was running an empire during plague and war, writing
- 6:35Speaker 1: his private notes with no audience in mind. What he
- 6:38Speaker 1: wrote was not inspiration. It was discipline made visible. You
- 6:44Speaker 1: have power over your mind, not outside events. Realize this,
- 6:50Speaker 1: and you will find strength. He was not telling you
- 6:53Speaker 1: to feel strong. He was telling you to act as
- 6:56Speaker 1: if strength were a choice independent of feeling. Because it is.
- 7:01Speaker 1: The Stoics drew the sharpest possible line between two categories
- 7:05Speaker 1: of experience. What is yours? Your actions, your judgments, your character,
- 7:12Speaker 1: the direction of your effort. What is not yours? Outcomes, opinions, weather,
- 7:19Speaker 1: the market, weather the critic notices. Whether the painting sells,
- 7:24Speaker 1: Brother Thomas cannot control whether his mind is serene at
- 7:27Speaker 1: four in the morning. He can control whether he stands up.
- 7:31Speaker 1: Sergeant Santos cannot control whether 19 people survive. What is
- 7:36Speaker 1: coming in three weeks? She can control whether she finishes
- 7:39Speaker 1: the 10th mile. Maya cannot control whether the canvas produces
- 7:43Speaker 1: something worth selling. She can control whether the brush moves.
- 7:47Speaker 1: That line between what is yours and what is not
- 7:51Speaker 1: is not a passive acceptance of defeat. This is where
- 7:53Speaker 1: most people misread the Stoics entirely. Marcus Aurelius wrote a
- 7:58Speaker 1: second line that belongs beside the first. The impediment to
- 8:03Speaker 1: action advances action. What stands in the way becomes the way.
- 8:09Speaker 1: The cold floor is not an obstacle to Brother Thomas' practice.
- 8:13Speaker 1: It is the practice. The darkness is not something Santos
- 8:17Speaker 1: endures until the run gets easier. The darkness is the point.
- 8:22Speaker 1: The blank canvas is not Maya's enemy. It is the
- 8:26Speaker 1: exact medium through which twelve years of discipline have been built.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Epictetus taught something that sounds simple until you sit with it.
- 8:34Speaker 1: We are not disturbed by events. We are disturbed by
- 8:38Speaker 1: our judgments about events. The alarm goes off at 4.47
- 8:42Speaker 1: in the morning, and your body argues. Your legs say no.
- 8:46Speaker 1: Your mind constructs a case for staying horizontal. that would
- 8:50Speaker 1: impress a lawyer. That case is not reality. That case
- 8:54Speaker 1: is a judgment. And Epictetus is asking you to look
- 8:57Speaker 1: at the judgment directly, not to suppress it, not to
- 9:00Speaker 1: pretend it isn't there, but to see it clearly and
- 9:03Speaker 1: recognize that it is not giving you accurate information about
- 9:07Speaker 1: what is possible. It is giving you information about what
- 9:11Speaker 1: is uncomfortable. Those are not the same thing. This is
- 9:14Speaker 1: where the three patterns diverge and why all three matter.
- 9:18Speaker 1: Brother Thomas does not separate action from feeling by pretending
- 9:22Speaker 1: the feeling doesn't exist. His mind is sometimes full of
- 9:25Speaker 1: grocery lists and irritation at a snoring novice. He acts anyway.
- 9:31Speaker 1: That is the first pattern, complete structural separation of action
- 9:36Speaker 1: and feeling. The feeling is information. It is not a command.
- 9:40Speaker 1: Santos runs in the dark because 19 people who have
- 9:44Speaker 1: not yet faced what they will face in three weeks
- 9:47Speaker 1: need her to have already done this work. Her discipline
- 9:50Speaker 1: is not personal. It is a form of service so
- 9:53Speaker 1: precise that no one will ever know she ran. That
- 9:57Speaker 1: is the second pattern. Discipline as devotion to something larger
- 10:02Speaker 1: than the self. The self's preferences become irrelevant the moment
- 10:06Speaker 1: something genuinely matters more. Maya has painted 4,380 consecutive days.
- 10:15Speaker 1: Seven pieces sold. The math of external validation is brutal.
- 10:20Speaker 1: but she has not calculated her worth in pieces sold
- 10:23Speaker 1: for a long time. Painting is not what she does,
- 10:26Speaker 1: it is what she is. That is the third pattern.
- 10:30Speaker 1: Discipline as identity, not performance. She does not decide each
- 10:35Speaker 1: morning whether to paint. That decision was made at a
- 10:38Speaker 1: level deeper than mood. Viktor Frankl, who survived what no
- 10:42Speaker 1: framework prepares you for, said that the last of human
- 10:45Speaker 1: freedoms is the ability to choose your attitude in any
- 10:49Speaker 1: given circumstance. He was not speaking abstractly. He had tested
- 10:54Speaker 1: that idea under conditions that would make four in the
- 10:57Speaker 1: morning feel like a luxury. Now here is the obstacle
- 11:00Speaker 1: you are already constructing in your mind, and it deserves
- 11:03Speaker 1: a direct answer. You are thinking. This sounds like suppression,
- 11:08Speaker 1: like forcing yourself through pain with your jaw clenched and
- 11:11Speaker 1: your humanity shut off. and that logic feels right until
- 11:15Speaker 1: you look closer. The Stoics were not arguing for numbness.
- 11:19Speaker 1: They were arguing for clarity. Emotions carry real information. Fear
- 11:23Speaker 1: tells you something is at stake. Resistance tells you the
- 11:26Speaker 1: task demands something real. Fatigue tells you the body is
- 11:30Speaker 1: doing work. None of that information should be ignored. What
- 11:35Speaker 1: the Stoics understood is that emotions make poor commanders. They
- 11:39Speaker 1: are excellent scouts. A scout tells you what is out there.
- 11:44Speaker 1: a commander decides what to do about it. Letting the
- 11:47Speaker 1: fear of irrelevance command your morning routine is like letting
- 11:52Speaker 1: a weather report decide your entire year. But here is
- 11:55Speaker 1: the problem with the way discipline is usually sold. It
- 11:59Speaker 1: is framed as the elimination of desire, a kind of
- 12:02Speaker 1: permanent stoic grimness that sounds more like punishment than practice.
- 12:08Speaker 1: Seneca deliberately slept on floors and ate plain food, not
- 12:12Speaker 1: because comfort was evil, but because he wanted to know
- 12:16Speaker 1: with absolute certainty that his peace of mind was not
- 12:19Speaker 1: rented from his circumstances. He was testing whether he owned himself.
- 12:24Speaker 1: That is a completely different project than suffering for its
- 12:27Speaker 1: own sake, and that distinction matters for the daily application
- 12:31Speaker 1: because there are two resistance patterns that sound similar but
- 12:36Speaker 1: require opposite responses. The first is resistance as growth signal,
- 12:40Speaker 1: the discomfort that tells you something real is being built.
- 12:44Speaker 1: That resistance is to be moved through. The second is
- 12:47Speaker 1: resistance as genuine misalignment. The signal that you have chosen
- 12:52Speaker 1: the wrong goal or the wrong method. That resistance is
- 12:55Speaker 1: information to be examined, not overridden. Discipline without discernment becomes rigidity.
- 13:03Speaker 1: The goal is not to become a machine. The goal
- 13:07Speaker 1: is to become someone whose choices are not hostage to
- 13:10Speaker 1: the current state of their mood. One more clarification, because
- 13:14Speaker 1: the transcript is precise on this point. Discipline does not
- 13:18Speaker 1: guarantee external success. Santos cannot control whether she comes home
- 13:23Speaker 1: in three weeks. Maya cannot control whether the art world notices.
- 13:28Speaker 1: What discipline improves is the probability that when the moment
- 13:31Speaker 1: requiring your full capacity arrives, you have built that capacity
- 13:36Speaker 1: in advance. You do not rise to the occasion. You
- 13:39Speaker 1: fall to the level of your preparation. That phrase is
- 13:42Speaker 1: not a metaphor. It is a description of how training
- 13:45Speaker 1: actually works. The shift happens when you realize that the
- 13:49Speaker 1: decision is not made in the moment. It was made earlier,
- 13:52Speaker 1: when you structured your life so that the choice to
- 13:55Speaker 1: act was already the default. Implementation, intention. The research term
- 14:01Speaker 1: for pre-commitment to specific actions works because it removes the
- 14:05Speaker 1: decision from the domain of mood. You do not decide
- 14:08Speaker 1: whether to run. You decide at what time and in
- 14:13Speaker 1: what shoes. The mourning argument is with a decision that
- 14:16Speaker 1: has already been made by a version of you who
- 14:18Speaker 1: was thinking more clearly. There is something that does not
- 14:22Speaker 1: appear on Brother Thomas's record, not in the monastery's register,
- 14:26Speaker 1: not in any account of his 30 years of practice,
- 14:29Speaker 1: on the mornings when he kneels and his mind fills
- 14:31Speaker 1: with shopping lists and irritation at the snoring novice down
- 14:35Speaker 1: the hall. He does not fight those thoughts. He does
- 14:38Speaker 1: not try to feel holy, He kneels anyway, and the
- 14:42Speaker 1: cold stone does what it has always done. It holds
- 14:46Speaker 1: his weight. The practice does not require his enthusiasm. It
- 14:50Speaker 1: only requires his presence. That is the thing most people miss.
- 14:54Speaker 1: Discipline is not the absence of resistance. It is the
- 14:57Speaker 1: decision made in advance so that resistance never gets a vote.
- 15:02Speaker 1: Santos finished her tenth mile before the city knew it
- 15:05Speaker 1: was morning. Nineteen people would never know about those miles either.
- 15:09Speaker 1: That is not incidental to her practice. That is the practice.
- 15:14Speaker 1: When the moment comes and the decision has to be made,
- 15:17Speaker 1: in three seconds under pressure, those miles will be there,
- 15:22Speaker 1: not the memory of them. The fact of them built
- 15:25Speaker 1: into her body. Santos understood something Aurelius understood while riding
- 15:31Speaker 1: by candlelight between campaigns. The preparation is not for the performance.
- 15:36Speaker 1: The preparation is the performance repeated quietly until it becomes structure.
- 15:42Speaker 1: Maya Chen does not paint because she feels creative. She
- 15:47Speaker 1: paints because she is a painter. That distinction took 4,380
- 15:52Speaker 1: days to understand. The tuna can, the cold coffee, the
- 15:56Speaker 1: blank canvas at five in the morning. None of these
- 16:00Speaker 1: are romantic, but the identity she inhabits does not wait
- 16:04Speaker 1: for romance. It shows up. Seven pieces sold in 12
- 16:08Speaker 1: years is not failure hidden by discipline. It is discipline
- 16:11Speaker 1: that has outlasted the judgment of the market, which is
- 16:14Speaker 1: the only kind of discipline that survives long enough to matter.
- 16:18Speaker 1: Three people, three different lives, and the same underlying architecture.
- 16:23Speaker 1: Action structurally divorced from the feeling that is supposed to
- 16:26Speaker 1: precede it. Here is the thing Epictetus understood that most
- 16:30Speaker 1: productivity advice quietly ignores. It is not that emotions are wrong,
- 16:36Speaker 1: or weak. It is that emotions are built for a
- 16:39Speaker 1: different job. Fear tells you something is at stake. Fatigue
- 16:43Speaker 1: tells you that your resources are being used. Doubt tells
- 16:47Speaker 1: you that the outcome is uncertain. All of that is
- 16:50Speaker 1: accurate information. But information is not a commander. The Stoics
- 16:54Speaker 1: did not try to silence those signals. They listened, assessed,
- 16:59Speaker 1: and then acted according to what they had already decided
- 17:03Speaker 1: that is, cognitive reappraisal in its oldest form, older than
- 17:07Speaker 1: the clinical term for it. The research, for what it
- 17:10Speaker 1: is worth, confirms what Seneca demonstrated by sleeping on floors.
- 17:14Speaker 1: When you voluntarily engage with discomfort before it is forced
- 17:18Speaker 1: on you, you do not simply tolerate it better. You
- 17:21Speaker 1: change your relationship to it. The system strengthens under stress
- 17:25Speaker 1: rather than eroding. Nassim Taleb named this antifragility. Seneca practiced
- 17:30Speaker 1: it 2,000 years earlier without the word for it. What
- 17:33Speaker 1: Frankl added is the peace that makes the whole architecture
- 17:38Speaker 1: personal rather than merely philosophical. The last of human freedoms,
- 17:43Speaker 1: he wrote from a place where nearly everything else had
- 17:46Speaker 1: been stripped away, is the freedom to choose your response.
- 17:50Speaker 1: Not your outcome. Not your circumstances. Your response. That freedom
- 17:55Speaker 1: does not expand by thinking about it. It expands by
- 17:59Speaker 1: exercising it, by moving the body when the mind argues,
- 18:04Speaker 1: by picking up the brush when the canvas is blank,
- 18:07Speaker 1: by lacing the shoes when it is dark and cold.
- 18:10Speaker 1: And no one will know, when I first sat with
- 18:13Speaker 1: these three figures together, the monk, the sergeant, the painter,
- 18:18Speaker 1: what stayed with me was not their discipline, it was
- 18:21Speaker 1: their silence. None of them announce what they do. Thomas
- 18:25Speaker 1: does not post his wake time. Santos will not tell
- 18:29Speaker 1: her squad she ran. Maya does not count her consecutive
- 18:33Speaker 1: days out loud to anyone. The discipline is not performed.
- 18:38Speaker 1: It simply exists in the dark, accumulating. So here is
- 18:43Speaker 1: where this lands, not as inspiration, as structure. The Stoics
- 18:48Speaker 1: gave you something practical, not a philosophy to admire. They
- 18:53Speaker 1: gave you an architecture for the gap between who you
- 18:56Speaker 1: are and who you intend to be. Marcus Aurelius did
- 18:59Speaker 1: not write his meditations for publication. He wrote them because
- 19:02Speaker 1: the emperor who commanded legions still needed to remind himself
- 19:07Speaker 1: every morning that the mind is the only territory he
- 19:11Speaker 1: actually governed. That is the inner citadel, not a metaphor
- 19:15Speaker 1: for toughness, a literal daily practice of returning authority to
- 19:19Speaker 1: where it belongs. The motivation trap works like this. You wait,
- 19:24Speaker 1: to feel ready. Readiness does not arrive, or it arrives
- 19:28Speaker 1: briefly and then dissolves. You conclude something is wrong with
- 19:34Speaker 1: your commitment. You recommit emotionally. The feeling fades again. The
- 19:39Speaker 1: trap is not weakness. It is a category error. You
- 19:44Speaker 1: are asking an emotion to do a structure's job. The implementation, intention,
- 19:49Speaker 1: breaks the cycle with something almost embarrassingly simple. Not, I
- 19:54Speaker 1: will exercise more. But, when the alarm sounds at 5.45,
- 20:00Speaker 1: I put my feet on the floor before I think
- 20:03Speaker 1: about it. The decision is made once, In advance, during
- 20:08Speaker 1: a moment of clarity, every subsequent morning, you are not deciding.
- 20:12Speaker 1: You are executing a prior decision made by a version
- 20:16Speaker 1: of you who was thinking clearly. That is not self-deception.
- 20:21Speaker 1: That is architecture. The three practices to carry from today. First,
- 20:27Speaker 1: identify one action in your life that you consistently postpone,
- 20:32Speaker 1: waiting for the right feeling. Write down the specific triggers
- 20:36Speaker 1: and the specific behavior, not a goal. And if then, structure.
- 20:42Speaker 1: When this happens, I do this. Do it now, while
- 20:46Speaker 1: you are still thinking about it clearly. Second, practice one
- 20:51Speaker 1: deliberate discomfort per week, not punishment. Proof, a cold shower,
- 20:57Speaker 1: a skipped meal, a morning without your phone, a hard
- 21:01Speaker 1: conversation that you have been warming up to for three weeks.
- 21:04Speaker 1: The point is not suffering. The point is demonstrating to
- 21:07Speaker 1: yourself that your comfort is not your master. Seneca sat
- 21:11Speaker 1: on floors. You can sit with silence. Third, separate your
- 21:15Speaker 1: metrics from your identity. Maya Chen has sold seven pieces.
- 21:22Speaker 1: She is still a painter. Those two facts coexist without
- 21:26Speaker 1: contradiction because she defined herself by the practice, not the result.
- 21:32Speaker 1: When you define yourself by the result, Every failure in
- 21:36Speaker 1: the external world becomes evidence against the self. When you
- 21:39Speaker 1: define yourself by the practice, every morning you show up
- 21:43Speaker 1: as confirmation of who you are. The market cannot take
- 21:47Speaker 1: that from you. You will not always want to do
- 21:49Speaker 1: these things. That is not a bug. That is the
- 21:54Speaker 1: entire point, Sartre said. We are condemned to be free.
- 21:58Speaker 1: Kierkegaard called the dizziness of freedom a kind of anxiety.
- 22:03Speaker 1: the weight of all the selves we could become. The
- 22:06Speaker 1: Stoics gave that dizziness a floor, not certainty of outcome,
- 22:11Speaker 1: not a guarantee that the work will be rewarded. Only this,
- 22:16Speaker 1: you can choose your action. That choice, made consistently, in
- 22:22Speaker 1: the dark, without applause, becomes character. Character becomes fate. Brother
- 22:28Speaker 1: Thomas is kneeling right now, somewhere, on cold stone, with
- 22:33Speaker 1: a mind full of ordinary noise, acting like the monk
- 22:36Speaker 1: he decided to be 30 years ago. Santos is already
- 22:39Speaker 1: on mile three. Maya's coffee is already cold. The question
- 22:44Speaker 1: the opening of this episode promised to answer was simple.
- 22:47Speaker 1: What do they know that you do not? This is
- 22:50Speaker 1: what they know. The feeling was never the point. The
- 22:53Speaker 1: action was always the point, and the action does not
- 22:57Speaker 1: require permission from the feeling to begin. This show is
- 23:01Speaker 1: made by Oba Media.