Latest / Speaking 4 Profit Podcast / Discover How to Monetize Your Speeches ft. Cesar Cervantes
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- 0:00Or, you could have 3,000
- 0:025,000 views, and the purpose of
- 0:04it is just for your clients
- 0:06to, potential clients to watch
- 0:07it before they meet with you.
- 0:10Maybe, you know, that's a way
- 0:12to introduce them to you and
- 0:13your message, and that may be
- 0:15paying off for you more than the
- 0:17million views.
- 0:24Welcome to the Speaking 4
- 0:25Profit podcast, where we talk
- 0:27about monetizing your message
- 0:29and taking your business
- 0:30to the next level through
- 0:32your expertise.
- 0:33Y'all are going to love this
- 0:34conversation with my friend, Cesar.
- 0:36We're going to talk a little
- 0:37bit about TEDx talks, but we're
- 0:39not just going to talk about
- 0:40how to land them.
- 0:42If you want to learn that, you
- 0:43can learn that in the last
- 0:44episode that we had with Cezanne.
- 0:46You probably will see that
- 0:46somewhere up here.
- 0:48But today we're going to talk
- 0:49about, what can you market this?
- 0:51How can you actually turn
- 0:52this into profit?
- 0:54And how can you brand yourself
- 0:55as a TEDx speaker and an expert
- 0:57in the world?
- 0:58So I'm really excited about
- 0:59the conversation.
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- 1:08some comments, engage with us.
- 1:09We would love to hear, have
- 1:10you already done a TED Talk?
- 1:12Is this something that you're
- 1:13interested in doing in
- 1:14the future?
- 1:15And if you have, go on and drop
- 1:16the link so that we could
- 1:17check it out.
- 1:18All right, Cesar, welcome to the
- 1:20Speaking 4 Profit podcast.
- 1:21Welcome back, Dan.
- 1:23Hey, okay.
- 1:25Okay.
- 1:26I'm, I don't know how many
- 1:27people you have back, but I'm
- 1:29feeling honored nonetheless.
- 1:31Okay.
- 1:31Maybe it's everybody,
- 1:33you know, I don't know.
- 1:34Maybe.
- 1:34No, it's not everybody.
- 1:35Okay.
- 1:35We don't have a lot of like
- 1:37alumni that keep, and you've come
- 1:38in, come into, you know, my
- 1:40paid community, Speaking 4
- 1:41Profit Academy a couple of times.
- 1:42That's true.
- 1:43I'm feeling the love.
- 1:44I am feeling the love.
- 1:45All right.
- 1:45We can officially say that you
- 1:47are Speaking 4 Profit, fam.
- 1:49I really appreciate you.
- 1:50Definitely.
- 1:50Every time I see you, I
- 1:52want to dance.
- 1:54So I'm just going to get
- 1:54a little, you know, a little
- 1:56jiggy with it.
- 1:56Yeah.
- 1:59We can, we can jam my intro
- 2:00music here in a minute.
- 2:01I'll find it.
- 2:02I'll find it.
- 2:03Definitely.
- 2:04Well, thank you so much
- 2:05for being here.
- 2:05For being here, for being willing
- 2:07to give this time and for taking a
- 2:09break from, from daddy duties and
- 2:10daddy jokes, as we were talking
- 2:12about before, do me a favor.
- 2:14You know, some folks are
- 2:16watching this podcast for, for
- 2:17the first time, and I would love
- 2:18for you to share with them just in
- 2:20a few sentences, what you do to
- 2:22support TEDx speakers get
- 2:24on the stage.
- 2:26Yeah, absolutely.
- 2:27So essentially I founded,
- 2:30my company is called Top Talks.
- 2:32And I help people in two different
- 2:33ways, right?
- 2:34So one is through kind
- 2:36of, landing and delivering,
- 2:38TEDx talks.
- 2:39And the other is focused on the
- 2:42keynote world.
- 2:43And sometimes these worlds
- 2:44kind of merge.
- 2:45Sometimes we help people who
- 2:47already have, their own
- 2:48TED talk and they're creating
- 2:49a keynote out of it.
- 2:51Sometimes vice versa.
- 2:52And it's just, it's a, it's
- 2:53a cool world to be in.
- 2:54I love.
- 2:55I love speeches, I love TED and
- 2:57the mission, and it's just like,
- 2:59so beautiful because the
- 3:00people that I work with,
- 3:02there's something important that
- 3:04they want to deliver and
- 3:05that they want to give.
- 3:06And like, that's, that's the
- 3:07difference is that I think in,
- 3:10in the world of TED, like, it's
- 3:12pretty focused on like, how can we
- 3:14change the world for the better?
- 3:16And what do we have?
- 3:17What idea or expertise do
- 3:19we have to be able to help
- 3:21people do that?
- 3:22How do we solve a problem is
- 3:23another way to think about it.
- 3:25And so essentially we
- 3:27work with people at different
- 3:28stages throughout the process,
- 3:30but often folks are at the
- 3:31very beginning.
- 3:32They're like, I want to do this.
- 3:34It's on my bucket list.
- 3:35And that's true for me.
- 3:37Like it was like a dream, right?
- 3:39And.
- 3:40Slowly, I, I, I got, like, more
- 3:43confident with the idea for my,
- 3:45for my talk, and that's kind of
- 3:47the first step.
- 3:48So, a lot of times, the
- 3:50first step is meeting with
- 3:51people and just understanding
- 3:52where their idea is, and
- 3:54helping them make progress towards
- 3:55saying, like, okay, here's how
- 3:57it would fit into TED, here's how
- 3:59we can tweak it.
- 4:00And then the next stage is really
- 4:02getting selected.
- 4:03So once you have that message
- 4:05refined and it's like, okay, like
- 4:08it's brief, it's powerful, like
- 4:09I can say it in one sentence,
- 4:11then you get the applications
- 4:13out there, we help folks
- 4:15get selected.
- 4:16Once you get selected, now
- 4:19the real work starts, right?
- 4:20Now it's like, okay, now I got
- 4:22to, you know, make sure my talk
- 4:24is legit and that it actually is
- 4:26transformative and that it's
- 4:28authentic.
- 4:29And so we help people,
- 4:30create the talk and also coach
- 4:33on delivery.
- 4:34And so, that's my world!
- 4:36Yeah, and you're helping a lot
- 4:38of people.
- 4:39Let's not even just say just,
- 4:40just people.
- 4:41And I love that you said, once
- 4:42you land the talk, because
- 4:44every week I'm in your Facebook
- 4:45group and there's some success
- 4:47story of someone Making it to
- 4:49the finalist round or finally
- 4:50submitting their application.
- 4:52And what I love about your
- 4:53framework and the way that you
- 4:54teach people, I feel like it's
- 4:56approachable and you
- 4:58acknowledge all the wins, right?
- 4:59Like this person finally got their
- 5:01application in.
- 5:01This person got selected.
- 5:03This person, you know, and, and I
- 5:04could tell some of the folks have
- 5:06worked with you and some folks
- 5:07are just a part of that amazing
- 5:08community that you're building
- 5:10and also just an amazing community
- 5:12of TED itself.
- 5:13So you're helping people with
- 5:15their, with their speeches,
- 5:16which is amazing.
- 5:17To me, almost like helping them
- 5:19with their brand copy in a way.
- 5:22What are, what are some of the
- 5:23things that you see in people
- 5:26who've been speaking for
- 5:27a while, that they need
- 5:28support on?
- 5:29And then what are some of
- 5:30the things that you see with
- 5:31beginners that they really
- 5:32need support on?
- 5:33Yeah, well, and, and sometimes
- 5:35there is, a crossover and
- 5:38like a overlap with this kind
- 5:39of stuff, because we're always kind
- 5:41of reinventing ourselves.
- 5:43I think the longer you're
- 5:44in the business, the more you
- 5:45decide that.
- 5:46Your message has changed a little
- 5:48bit, or it needs to adjust to the
- 5:49times, or you just want to do
- 5:51a new program, you know, a
- 5:52new keynote.
- 5:53But what I would say is
- 5:54that I think you kind of nailed
- 5:57it, which is like, when you
- 5:58think about anything that's
- 6:01worth saying, it's worth
- 6:02saying clearly and with power.
- 6:06Right.
- 6:07And that's the difference.
- 6:07I think we've all like.
- 6:09Listen, we're all like you
- 6:11know, subscribed to some kind
- 6:12of email list at some
- 6:13point, right?
- 6:15And probably if you're like
- 6:16me, there's probably like
- 6:17a dozen at any given time,
- 6:19and then I'm like, all right,
- 6:20unsubscribe, all right, let's
- 6:21clean things up, and then you
- 6:23start Then you subscribe back.
- 6:24Yeah.
- 6:25And the difference, I
- 6:27think, between the ones that
- 6:29you continue to engage in,
- 6:32do two things.
- 6:34One is that you know exactly what
- 6:36they're about.
- 6:37You know, you know what
- 6:38it's saying.
- 6:39It's clear.
- 6:40It's a world that, that,
- 6:41that you either live in or want
- 6:43to live in.
- 6:44And it, it actually is
- 6:47stuff that gives you like an aha
- 6:49moment or is transformative in
- 6:51some kind of way.
- 6:53It changes you and or
- 6:55your business, your mission,
- 6:57whatever.
- 6:58The second piece is that
- 7:00it's authentic.
- 7:01Like it's actually
- 7:02that person.
- 7:03And perspective and that
- 7:05it's real.
- 7:06And that's why people engage
- 7:09in anything, whether it's
- 7:10an email list, a piece of
- 7:12content, a TED talk, et cetera.
- 7:14Is it transformative
- 7:16and is it, is it clear and,
- 7:18and actually that, you know,
- 7:20from that person authentic.
- 7:22So, yeah, that's what I would say.
- 7:24But to go back to your, you know,
- 7:26your question about like,
- 7:27okay, where do these folks live
- 7:30and like, you know, somebody
- 7:31who's been in speaking for a
- 7:32while, someone.
- 7:33Who hasn't?
- 7:35I think, I think the clarity of
- 7:37what, what you do and how you
- 7:38serve people, like you see
- 7:40that very clear later when people
- 7:43find their kind of wheelhouse
- 7:44and their niche.
- 7:45And when you work with folks that
- 7:47are early in the process, they're
- 7:49still trying to find that.
- 7:51And, and that, that's
- 7:53normal, right?
- 7:54Because most people have
- 7:57multiple gifts to give, multiple
- 7:59interests, and they're trying
- 8:01to find the right thing.
- 8:02And also sometimes
- 8:05are asking themselves, what,
- 8:08what, what do people want and
- 8:10what will work?
- 8:12And sometimes those things
- 8:13are helpful and sometimes
- 8:14they're not, because they can
- 8:16either, like, you know, lead you
- 8:18towards what's authentic for
- 8:20you, or they can start catering
- 8:22to things that maybe aren't
- 8:23aligned with you.
- 8:25And the difference
- 8:26is that, you know, for those
- 8:28who've been around and have
- 8:29been doing the speaking, like,
- 8:31they're pretty clear on that.
- 8:33They've taken that journey
- 8:35already.
- 8:36Yeah, thank you so much for
- 8:37sharing that.
- 8:38I've seen some folks doing some
- 8:40really cool stuff with their TED
- 8:41Talks when it comes to branding
- 8:43and marketing.
- 8:44And I've also seen some folks
- 8:45doing like some stuff where it's
- 8:46like, I don't ever want you to
- 8:48see this tattoo.
- 8:50, you know?
- 8:50So there, there's a couple
- 8:52I I follow and they're
- 8:53interesting 'cause they
- 8:54got married after knowing
- 8:57each other for two weeks.
- 8:58It was one of those kind of
- 8:58relationships where watch
- 8:59out, right?
- 9:01Where we all were kind of like,
- 9:02okay, good luck.
- 9:04Hey, good luck.
- 9:06And they ended up getting
- 9:06a divorce.
- 9:07No shade to that.
- 9:08Not saying any you out there
- 9:09who got married in two weeks,
- 9:10you're gonna get divorced.
- 9:11I'm not even putting the
- 9:13energy out there.
- 9:13I'm just saying they did.
- 9:14But they did like a TEDx
- 9:16talk together.
- 9:18Oh, wow.
- 9:19Right?
- 9:19Like a couples talk.
- 9:20So recently one of the people
- 9:22I posted, like, I've got to do
- 9:24another TED talk that, you know,
- 9:25like by myself, that's solo.
- 9:28Right?
- 9:28So that I can actually post
- 9:30it because they don't feel
- 9:30comfortable posting it
- 9:31with their ex.
- 9:32And then I seen someone else who
- 9:34kind of brought it up recently
- 9:35as, a part of credibility
- 9:38for their brand, because they're
- 9:39actually about to put out a
- 9:40book and they were like, you
- 9:42know, things you might not
- 9:43know about me.
- 9:44That's kind of what they're
- 9:45doing right now.
- 9:45Cause they're putting out
- 9:46a memoir.
- 9:47Right.
- 9:47And one of the posts was like,
- 9:49I was on TED 10 years ago.
- 9:50Here's, here's the speech
- 9:52Here's, here's the speech
- 9:52that's been viewed, however,
- 9:54hundreds of thousands
- 9:56of times.
- 9:56Right.
- 9:56So for you, what are some ways
- 9:58that cool ways that you've seen
- 10:01either clients presented or
- 10:03bring it back almost like
- 10:05a throwback Thursday?
- 10:06to build that credibility.
- 10:09Well, I want to start a little
- 10:11before that, because what I
- 10:12want to say is, first, the
- 10:13want to say is, first, the
- 10:15quality of the talk and the
- 10:16message is going to determine,
- 10:17like, how well it moves, right, and
- 10:21how well it does what you want
- 10:24it to do, which you At the end
- 10:26of the day is to attract the right
- 10:27people to give the thing that
- 10:30you have to give.
- 10:32And so what I would say is
- 10:34like that early work and really
- 10:36distilling down the message and
- 10:39knowing that, you know, it's
- 10:41a message that you want to be
- 10:45able to last, or at least it
- 10:47speaks to what you do right now,
- 10:49is important.
- 10:51And what you care about right now,
- 10:52it's important.
- 10:53It doesn't mean that it has
- 10:54to like, live forever, right?
- 10:56Like, we all change and
- 10:57transform and what have you,
- 10:59but what I would say is
- 11:00like, at least, at least have
- 11:03that as a goal.
- 11:04Like, something that can,
- 11:07can stand the test of time.
- 11:10Like Mariah Carey's
- 11:11Christmas?
- 11:13Like, you know, something, yeah,
- 11:15the, I'm, I'm reminded of
- 11:17a Ryan Holiday book, called,
- 11:18The Perennial, Perennial Seller.
- 11:21And, you know, in a world of
- 11:23like, being super niche and
- 11:26like, you know, things that are
- 11:28hot right now.
- 11:30I think that there's a
- 11:31place for that.
- 11:32And it's certainly,
- 11:33you know, it certainly can be
- 11:35a kind of talk.
- 11:36But if you really wanted
- 11:37to, like, be out there and be
- 11:40connected to you and your message,
- 11:42you might ask yourself,
- 11:43alright, what is the thing that
- 11:44could stand, the test of time?
- 11:47So that's the first thing
- 11:48I would say.
- 11:48The second is that you also
- 11:50then have to know what, how
- 11:51you want to leverage it, and
- 11:52you want, you want to actually
- 11:54be making that plan before
- 11:56it's released.
- 11:57So that, you know, you can
- 11:59launch strong and that's, you know,
- 12:03that's where you want to kind of
- 12:04build that, Google
- 12:05juice, if you will, like,
- 12:07really launch it at the
- 12:10beginning so that it, it, it can
- 12:12move on its own.
- 12:13Like the goal is.
- 12:15If YouTube can just take this
- 12:17over and start suggesting it
- 12:18to people, like, beautiful, you
- 12:22know what I mean?
- 12:22So that's where I would put most
- 12:23of my energy.
- 12:24And then it's really about what
- 12:26you want it for.
- 12:27So, like, if you have a million
- 12:29views, great.
- 12:31Did those million views convert
- 12:33into what you wanted them to
- 12:35convert into?
- 12:36And the answer could be yes.
- 12:37It could be, yeah, there's
- 12:38a ton of credibility
- 12:39there.
- 12:40I had people reach out to me.
- 12:42I was able to use it for my
- 12:43speaker reel.
- 12:44I was able to book speaking
- 12:46gigs from it, etc.
- 12:48Or, you could have 3,000
- 12:48Or, you could have 3,000
- 12:515,000 views, and the purpose of
- 12:53it is just for your clients
- 12:54to, potential clients to watch
- 12:56it before they meet with you.
- 12:59Maybe, you know, that's a way
- 13:00to introduce them to you and
- 13:02your message, and that may be
- 13:04paying off for you more than the
- 13:06million views.
- 13:07Like, It's about how you want to
- 13:10leverage it, and too often what
- 13:11I see is that the only metric
- 13:14we're using is whether or not
- 13:15it went viral.
- 13:17So Exactly.
- 13:20It's like it could go viral
- 13:21and then no one else knows
- 13:22about it in a week, right?
- 13:24Right, and doesn't really
- 13:25help your business.
- 13:26So I love this thought
- 13:28of launching, thinking about
- 13:31your outcomes.
- 13:32Do you, when you're
- 13:33working with your clients,
- 13:34particularly think to
- 13:35yourself, Even when you're
- 13:37planning which, which place
- 13:39you're going to speak or how
- 13:40you're going to speak with Ted,
- 13:41is that a part of the process
- 13:42to think, how do I want to launch
- 13:44this and how do I want to connect
- 13:45it to my brand?
- 13:47Or is that, or is it more like,
- 13:48Hey, let's just get you in and
- 13:50then we can decide that once
- 13:52you're selected?
- 13:53Yeah.
- 13:54Like the question of location is
- 13:56like, it has my experience and
- 14:00you know, we've landed hundreds
- 14:02and hundreds of talks for folks
- 14:04now and seen a bunch of them
- 14:06go viral and.
- 14:07Some that don't, but do
- 14:09incredible things for folks and
- 14:11their business and they're
- 14:13able to get more PR from it.
- 14:15Like I've seen kind of, you
- 14:17know, it run the gamut.
- 14:19And the, the question of
- 14:21location has very little to do with
- 14:23how, how it then works for you.
- 14:27So like, one of the examples I
- 14:28like to use is, so Evolve,
- 14:30you've seen, you've
- 14:31You've seen, SimonsonX talk,
- 14:34probably, right?
- 14:35Where, where did he deliver it?
- 14:37The TEDx stage?
- 14:39Right.
- 14:40But you don't know which,
- 14:41you don't know which city?
- 14:43What about Brene Brau?
- 14:44Where did she deliver it?
- 14:45I'm, I'm gonna fail this
- 14:46quiz every time, right?
- 14:50Houston, right?
- 14:51So she happened to do it
- 14:53in Houston.
- 14:53But nobody's going to remember
- 14:55that, right?
- 14:56Or the topic of what that TEDx
- 14:59series was about.
- 15:00Nobody knows the theme.
- 15:02And so do not place an,
- 15:03like, a greater importance on
- 15:06the theme because of the live
- 15:07audience, when your primary
- 15:08audience is going to be
- 15:09the internet.
- 15:10And so, yeah, my, my general
- 15:12messaging there is Simon Sinek
- 15:15delivered one of the most,
- 15:16you know, viewed talks of
- 15:19all time, and there was about
- 15:2150 people in the audience.
- 15:23The sound was
- 15:24crackling and they had to
- 15:25change the mic out like a few
- 15:27minutes into it, right?
- 15:29It's, it's even a little
- 15:30grainy, like it's not even
- 15:32shot that well, but it, it was
- 15:36a really timely message that
- 15:39gave us like a moment
- 15:41of perspective that we didn't
- 15:42have before, an aha moment.
- 15:46And that's why it moved, right?
- 15:50So could, could it be that you
- 15:52get, you get selected for
- 15:56a place and their production
- 15:57isn't good?
- 15:58Yes.
- 15:59And it could be that it's so bad
- 16:00that you decide, I don't, I don't
- 16:03want this thing to go live.
- 16:05And that's, that's a
- 16:05question.
- 16:06I've seen it happen maybe
- 16:08once or twice, where folks
- 16:11are like, Ooh, I don't, you
- 16:13know, I can't, I can't hear it.
- 16:15That if I, if you, if you
- 16:17literally can't hear it and then,
- 16:19okay, yeah, we got to scrap it.
- 16:21Other than that, honestly, it
- 16:24lives on the same platform.
- 16:27If your message is strong,
- 16:30it can move.
- 16:31And that's, that's my
- 16:32position.
- 16:33Definitely.
- 16:34And when you think about
- 16:35movement, right?
- 16:35Because now We're really talking
- 16:37about this almost being a
- 16:38business plan.
- 16:40And I know you mentioned this
- 16:41is when you want to get in
- 16:42a space with the Googles, right?
- 16:43Like you want to be on point.
- 16:45What are some strategies that
- 16:47you would suggest for people?
- 16:48Like, you know, I know you're,
- 16:49you're working with one of, one
- 16:51of my clients, which is now
- 16:52our client, on one of
- 16:54their, their first talks.
- 16:55Amazing individual.
- 16:57Are there tips that you're
- 16:58giving people of when it launches?
- 17:02On how they can be successful
- 17:04in marketing it, like, and
- 17:06if not, I can give tips to our
- 17:07audience because, you know,
- 17:10Yeah, for sure.
- 17:11That's part of the thought
- 17:12process.
- 17:12And like, you know,
- 17:13let's launch.
- 17:14So what I would say is,
- 17:16you know, in addition to kind
- 17:17of, you know, the earlier,
- 17:18things I was saying is like
- 17:19thinking about beforehand,
- 17:22let's create something great.
- 17:23Let's think about how we're going
- 17:24to leverage it.
- 17:26And then before it comes out,
- 17:27let's make a plan for launching.
- 17:29And that means that you're kind
- 17:30of documenting the process.
- 17:32And the reason you do that is
- 17:34you're building anticipation.
- 17:36And a lot of times what
- 17:38prevents us from going through
- 17:40this is that, you know, it's,
- 17:42it's, It's a lot of work, to be
- 17:44honest, right?
- 17:45Like, you really do need to
- 17:46invest in it.
- 17:47But the people that I've seen,
- 17:48where they, like, organically
- 17:50go viral, they did, they did
- 17:52these launch techniques,
- 17:54which I think are really,
- 17:55really smart.
- 17:56So, you start talking about it,
- 17:59you start sharing the title, you
- 18:00engage people, like, should I
- 18:02do this title or that title?
- 18:04Oh, I'm getting nervous.
- 18:05My script, I don't know.
- 18:07Here's me practicing.
- 18:08Come to one of my practice
- 18:10sessions.
- 18:10You can hear it.
- 18:11Give me feedback, like you're
- 18:13engaging them in making it happen.
- 18:17And honestly, this, the
- 18:19crowdsourcing of it will help.
- 18:20Like I've seen, I've seen titles
- 18:22of talks, like be completely
- 18:24changed for the better
- 18:25because there's just, we're
- 18:27crowdsourcing ideas, right?
- 18:29And then what you do is.
- 18:32You sort of get out, you know,
- 18:34it depends on certain folks
- 18:36have their own numbers, but
- 18:37let's say you get 200 people
- 18:40that will commit to watching
- 18:44it all the way through when it
- 18:45launches, liking, commenting,
- 18:49and sharing it.
- 18:51And when it launches, if you
- 18:52can get a core group of people
- 18:54that will do that for you, like a
- 18:56launch party and a launch party,
- 18:59you know, all that good stuff.
- 19:01But like, really like it makes
- 19:04way more impact than you think
- 19:06it will, because it, you know, it
- 19:08sort of tells the YouTube algorithm
- 19:10that this is, this is a thing.
- 19:12Right.
- 19:13And one of the biggest metrics
- 19:16for communicating to YouTube that
- 19:19this is a great piece of content.
- 19:22is that people do watch it all
- 19:24the way through.
- 19:25And so most of the time
- 19:27we don't, when we, when we
- 19:28post stuff, we don't actually
- 19:30request that.
- 19:31We go like it and share it
- 19:33and comment.
- 19:33Right.
- 19:34And rarely do we say, watch it all
- 19:37the way through.
- 19:38Even if you stop watching it,
- 19:39let it run all the way through,
- 19:41you know?
- 19:43Exactly.
- 19:44Just put me on mute.
- 19:47I don't know.
- 19:48These days there's so
- 19:49many ads.
- 19:50Sometimes it's like, oh my gosh.
- 21:37But anyway, yeah, that's, so
- 21:39those are like the, the primary
- 21:43sort of launch tips that I have.
- 21:44Okay.
- 21:45That's really cool.
- 21:45Does it help you think?
- 21:47If a person's already on
- 21:49YouTube, right, if they're
- 21:50already producing content there,
- 21:52can, can you use this as
- 21:54a strategy?
- 21:55To grow your YouTube channel.
- 21:58Yeah, for sure.
- 21:59I, I, but I would say that,
- 22:00some of that has to do with how
- 22:01many subscribers you have, right.
- 22:03And can already leverage the
- 22:05subscribers on YouTube.
- 22:06But really we could say
- 22:07that about any piece of content.
- 22:09Like if you wanted to launch
- 22:11like a little video that you,
- 22:13that you posted on Instagram
- 22:16or wherever, you know, like
- 22:18you could do the same thing.
- 22:19And it would have similar
- 22:20effects, right?
- 22:22If you're like, this is a piece
- 22:23of content that I'm really
- 22:24proud of.
- 22:25And if you don't, if you don't
- 22:26believe that it's real, try it,
- 22:28try it with one piece of content
- 22:31and see what happens and then
- 22:33compare it to everything else.
- 22:35Cause a lot of times we don't
- 22:36do things because we're not even
- 22:38sure they'll work and we
- 22:39don't know, like.
- 22:41Who to trust, or we tell ourselves
- 22:43they won't work so that
- 22:45we don't have to do the work.
- 22:46Exactly.
- 22:47Right?
- 22:47It's like, but a lot of this
- 22:49is trial and error and being
- 22:50willing to test things out.
- 22:51And like you said, really
- 22:53looking at the data and seeing
- 22:54the growth.
- 22:54So I know you, you've done
- 22:56how many TED Talks now?
- 22:58I've done three now.
- 22:59Yeah.
- 23:00Definitely.
- 23:00And you, to me, from seeing them,
- 23:03one was in a, like a studio,
- 23:04more of like a studio studio.
- 23:06Like.
- 23:07Y'all like CBS behind the
- 23:08Y'all like CBS behind the
- 23:10scenes, a couple from stage when
- 23:12scenes, a couple from stage when
- 23:12you did those, they were in
- 23:14different parts of your own
- 23:16professional journey as well.
- 23:18Yeah.
- 23:18From the first talk to the
- 23:20last talk, like, what did you
- 23:22learn about?
- 23:23Particularly your brand and
- 23:25marketing to be able to grow
- 23:27it to where it is now.
- 23:28Like, and I'm not saying
- 23:29y'all like y'all need to number
- 23:31one, go look up my friend.
- 23:32Don't play games.
- 23:32Cause he is popping, but
- 23:35I'm just saying like, there's
- 23:36been a lot of growth that have
- 23:37happened for your business since
- 23:39that first talk.
- 23:40Yeah, I think, I love this
- 23:42question.
- 23:43I would, the, the way that
- 23:44I'm answering this actually
- 23:46is probably not going to be what
- 23:47you think it is.
- 23:48The primary thing that changed for
- 23:51me from one talk to the next.
- 23:56is more confidence in
- 23:58myself and more personal growth.
- 24:03And it's amazing how that
- 24:04translates to success in every
- 24:07other part of your business
- 24:09and life.
- 24:10And it's just, when you
- 24:11learn to trust yourself, amazing
- 24:13things happen.
- 24:14There's, there's this,
- 24:14I read this book this year,
- 24:16like, called The Tools by
- 24:16like called The Tools by
- 24:18Phil Stutz, and he's like this,
- 24:21like, therapist that had, like,
- 24:22a Netflix special and, like, a
- 24:24famous actor, like, made
- 24:25him famous or whatever, right?
- 24:27And his whole story is that,
- 24:29like, he was so frustrated by
- 24:31this world of counseling and
- 24:33therapy because it was so much
- 24:34just, like, Well, you know, let's
- 24:36talk about why you are the way
- 24:38you are and not a lot of tools
- 24:41to like actually change and
- 24:45or when you're hurting, like how
- 24:47to help yourself and his clients
- 24:50were asking him, like, give
- 24:52me something.
- 24:53And, and he, he didn't have it.
- 24:54And he, and he talked to other
- 24:56people in the biz and they were
- 24:57like, ah, just, you know, keep
- 24:59talking about their father.
- 25:02So he created it himself.
- 25:04And one of the, one of
- 25:05the conclusions he came to was
- 25:07that when we, when we sort
- 25:09of like follow this process,
- 25:11like, that is natural,
- 25:13like that we see in the world,
- 25:15that we're sort of tapping
- 25:17into something greater, right.
- 25:20And this is what he shared.
- 25:21He shared the creative
- 25:22He shared the creative
- 25:23process goes like this and I
- 25:25have it written over here.
- 25:27You have an instinct,
- 25:29you create.
- 25:31And then there's a consequence
- 25:33and you learn from it.
- 25:35Instincts create consequence.
- 25:39And if you can get into that
- 25:40flow of trusting your instinct
- 25:44about what you need to do next,
- 25:46create, which I love, like that's
- 25:49the easy part.
- 25:49It's like, Oh, I get to create
- 25:51something.
- 25:52Okay.
- 25:53And then go like, all
- 25:54right, so what happened from
- 25:55this creation?
- 25:57Good, bad, whatever.
- 25:59And then you just keep flowing
- 26:01like that.
- 26:01And like, You know, when you
- 26:03hear this truth and you're
- 26:04just like, yep, that's right.
- 26:06Yeah.
- 26:07Like it spoke to me.
- 26:08And so that's what it looked
- 26:11like for me.
- 26:12And then that would show
- 26:13up in different ways in the
- 26:15business where like, my thing
- 26:18is always like, how can I create
- 26:20transformation for folks?
- 26:21Like, how can I, when I have
- 26:23this time with this person or
- 26:24this group or whatever, like
- 26:27I'm hyper focused on like creating
- 26:29a moment.
- 26:30Where they go, aha, or
- 26:32like, oh, wow.
- 26:33And I live for that.
- 26:35Yes.
- 26:36Thank you so much for sharing.
- 26:38And I'm gonna have to get
- 26:38that book.
- 26:39That sounds like something that's
- 26:41definitely right up my alley.
- 26:43So let's pivot a little bit
- 26:44and talk about how do we use
- 26:46these TEDx Talks to secure paid
- 26:48opportunities?
- 26:48We've kind of talked about like
- 26:50how, you know, brands, business
- 26:51owners can think YouTubers.
- 26:54But particularly people who are
- 26:56trying to get paid to speak.
- 26:58What is the best way to leverage
- 26:59your TEDx talk?
- 27:00And I know, you know, you spoke
- 27:02a little bit about, like, the
- 27:03speakers reel, but are there
- 27:04other things that paid
- 27:06speakers can be thinking about
- 27:08in regards to leveraging that?
- 27:09Cause I know so many folks who
- 27:11have them, and they're just like
- 27:13I'm like, why do you, why is
- 27:15it not even on your web page?
- 27:16Why is, where is the link?
- 27:19Like they're not even really
- 27:20like putting it out there.
- 27:21Right.
- 27:21Which I find interesting
- 27:23as well.
- 27:24Maybe bad audio.
- 27:25I don't know.
- 27:25Yeah, no.
- 27:26Well, I mean, I also think
- 27:28that sometimes folks just want
- 27:29the experience and that's okay
- 27:31too, you know, like I work with
- 27:34plenty of people where it's like,
- 27:35The act of creating and
- 27:38delivering is transformational
- 27:41for them and the experience.
- 27:43is what they were seeking.
- 27:45Exactly.
- 27:46Right.
- 27:47And so, but we're a group
- 27:49of entrepreneurs and we also want
- 27:51to leverage and we, we want to
- 27:53give more and grow our reach.
- 27:56And so, you know, how do
- 27:57we do that?
- 27:58Yeah, I so here you're
- 27:59looking for like more of like the
- 28:01nitty gritty of like tangible
- 28:03like things like once it comes out
- 28:05How do we convert it into stuff?
- 28:07Is that what you're saying?
- 28:08Yeah, pretty much cuz I mean, you
- 28:09know, I'm gonna be honest with
- 28:10you I already told you I was
- 28:12working with you last year
- 28:13money got a little funny
- 28:16Ain't gonna be funny this year.
- 28:17I was actually in meditation
- 28:19Earlier today.
- 28:20Yeah, and I heard I thought it was
- 28:22my wife speaking, but I think
- 28:23it was spirit.
- 28:24It said Don't spend it all
- 28:26in one place.
- 28:27And I said, ooh, it all,
- 28:29where, what's coming, right?
- 28:30I say all that to say, like, you
- 28:32know, I've, I've been speaking and
- 28:33consulting for a while, but I'm
- 28:35excited to do TED because it feels
- 28:37like a challenge.
- 28:38It takes me back to like, the
- 28:40energy takes me back to my
- 28:41slam poetry days, which are
- 28:42a little bit of fear, a little
- 28:43bit of anxiety.
- 28:45But I'm also like, how
- 28:46can I, how can I use this to
- 28:47leverage more opportunities
- 28:49when I am in front of
- 28:50decision makers?
- 28:51And be able to make some
- 28:53money from it.
- 28:53Cause you know me, my ultimate
- 28:54goal is financial freedom so that
- 28:56I can spend more time giving
- 28:58back and with the people I love.
- 29:00Yeah.
- 29:01It's a great
- 29:02question to ask.
- 29:02Here's like
- 29:04a way to think about it.
- 29:05Like, I was, I once
- 29:06heard like,
- 29:07like your
- 29:07book could be thought of in
- 29:09the way that.
- 29:10Disney created their, their sort
- 29:13of business plan.
- 29:15Right.
- 29:16And in a similar way, your talk is
- 29:19like a much more shareable,
- 29:22shorter version that lives
- 29:25on a powerful platform.
- 29:28Book, right?
- 29:29And that's not to say you shouldn't
- 29:30have a book.
- 29:30Like I'm not saying like, I'll
- 29:31go write a book.
- 29:32Like, that's great.
- 29:32It can do amazing things for you.
- 29:34I love TED talks because like
- 29:35people actually click on them
- 29:37and watch them.
- 29:37So take, you know, take
- 29:40the theme park, Disney, like
- 29:44Disney uses their theme park as
- 29:46actually like the core of
- 29:48which everything else is
- 29:49birthed, right?
- 29:50Like movies, like.
- 29:53The little characters and
- 29:55stuffed animals that they share,
- 29:57like, you know, the books, like,
- 29:59So when you think about your
- 30:01talk, you can also think about
- 30:03the things that can be birthed
- 30:05from your talk.
- 30:06And so it's the core of what
- 30:09other things come out of.
- 30:12And I like to think about
- 30:13it that way because it's a
- 30:15really brief.
- 30:16Concise, like the heart of what
- 30:20you give, right?
- 30:22This is, here it is, come
- 30:23experience it and I'll put it into
- 30:25this nice little package for you.
- 30:27And so, you know, that's different
- 30:31for, for people.
- 30:32Like it could be coaching
- 30:33programs.
- 30:34It could be more speaking.
- 30:36It could be a book that comes
- 30:38from that.
- 30:38That's one of the most
- 30:39common, right?
- 30:40When you look at Brene, Simon and
- 30:41other people, then you have.
- 30:43The expansive version of
- 30:45the talk.
- 30:46And so if we're talking
- 30:47about like how you monetize it,
- 30:49think about your talk first as the
- 30:52heart, the core, the theme park,
- 30:54and how other things branch
- 30:56from there.
- 30:57The reason why that's so
- 30:58powerful is because, you
- 31:01Every talk will have a
- 31:02through line, a one sentence
- 31:04version of what the talk is.
- 31:07And the talk is meant to move
- 31:08us from where we are to where we
- 31:10could be, right?
- 31:11It starts in a problem and it
- 31:13ends in this way in which we
- 31:14can all access a solution to
- 31:16change ourselves and or the world.
- 31:19And then everything that
- 31:21branches from that should
- 31:23come back to that core And
- 31:26that's the core through line,
- 31:27that core belief, that core gift.
- 31:30And this might sound simple,
- 31:32but one of the biggest mistakes
- 31:34I think people make is that,
- 31:36that they're trying to do
- 31:38like a lot of different things
- 31:40or get kind of sidetracked.
- 31:41And because it doesn't have
- 31:43a heart or a central through
- 31:45line theme gift, It kind
- 31:47of gets lost in the masses of
- 31:50what's out there.
- 31:51So that's how I want to answer
- 31:52that first.
- 31:53I, what, what questions,
- 31:56maybe I didn't get to it.
- 31:58No, you know, I think that's
- 31:59a great way to look at it.
- 32:00A mentor I have often
- 32:02talks about.
- 32:03You know, looking at our businesses
- 32:05as a tree, right?
- 32:06Like what is the core thing,
- 32:07the core, core theme, or
- 32:10like you said, through line,
- 32:11and then what are the different
- 32:12branches of income that we
- 32:14can build from that, right?
- 32:15Which is, like you said, the
- 32:16book or the merchandise or,
- 32:18programs, or maybe it's a
- 32:19retreat or a full day event, right?
- 32:21Like, so I love, love thinking
- 32:23about it in different ways,
- 32:25because I know there's speakers
- 32:26and consultants who are listening
- 32:27to this, who, you know, You
- 32:30might not have, like, the desire
- 32:33to be a paid speaker, right?
- 32:35Like, everyone doesn't have
- 32:36necessarily that desire.
- 32:37Some people are like, you know
- 32:38what, actually, I really love that
- 32:41one day retreat I'm able to do
- 32:42with people, and that's the way
- 32:43that I want to build this out.
- 32:44Or I have, I have a client who
- 32:46does some really cool retreats
- 32:47in Costa Rica.
- 32:48Maybe I just want to like,
- 32:49you know, do stuff and travel
- 32:51with folks.
- 32:51So I love that concept, and I
- 32:52love that thought because I think
- 32:54what you're speaking of is
- 32:56people taking that moment a
- 32:58little bit more serious, but also
- 33:01being intentional about how they
- 33:02want to utilize that moment.
- 33:04Exactly.
- 33:05Cool.
- 33:05Yeah, definitely cool.
- 33:06So I know you, you've got to go
- 33:08and we're going to wrap up soon,
- 33:09but I want to ask you just a
- 33:11question for you as, as a coach
- 33:13and as a, a dad joke pro,
- 33:16I'm asking this of, you
- 33:18know, most, most entrepreneurs and
- 33:20coaches, because.
- 33:22I realize that many of us,
- 33:24and I hope you weren't one, but
- 33:25have been taught to build our
- 33:27businesses in ways that burn
- 33:29us out and that don't really
- 33:31call in easeful abundance, and
- 33:32that's something I'm really trying
- 33:34to push all entrepreneurs
- 33:35to do.
- 33:38So for you, one, what
- 33:40are some of the celebrations of,
- 33:42of being a coach, being a speaking
- 33:44coach, a speech writing coach,
- 33:46and then what, where are some
- 33:48of the challenges and how are
- 33:49you navigating having more of a
- 33:53easeful abundance in your life?
- 33:54You know, cause you're a dad,
- 33:56you're a speaker, you're a woo,
- 33:59because I mean, like I told you,
- 34:00every time I want to get on and
- 34:01dance and you have all this
- 34:02energy and I'm like, Where is
- 34:04it coming from?
- 34:06Oh my goodness.
- 34:08That's a
- 34:08great question.
- 34:09Well, first of all, I think
- 34:11there's, there's certainly like a
- 34:12disposition that I have that I'm
- 34:14like incredibly social and just
- 34:16like, I feel fed by other people.
- 34:18And as it goes, like, you know,
- 34:20like for whatever reason, people
- 34:23like me always marry introverts,
- 34:25right?
- 34:25And so like, I'm totally opposite
- 34:27to my wife.
- 34:28And she's like, I don't know
- 34:28how you do that all day.
- 34:29And so like, there's that.
- 34:31So I just want to own that,
- 34:33like, you know, I, that's just
- 34:35how I'm built.
- 34:36Um, but, but there's.
- 34:37There's, a couple of things
- 34:41I would say, because you're
- 34:42right, like, we don't want to,
- 34:45we don't want to jump into
- 34:46entrepreneurship just to, like,
- 34:49you know, burn ourselves out
- 34:51and then return to, you know,
- 34:53some job that wasn't aligned
- 34:54with us to, to begin with.
- 34:56And that certainly is
- 34:57my story, that, like, I had, I
- 35:00had different parts of myself
- 35:01that I had to explore before
- 35:03arriving.
- 35:04You know, I was a standup comic
- 35:05for a long time and I loved it
- 35:07until I did it.
- 35:08And it was just like, yeah, you
- 35:09know, I just felt like I did that.
- 35:11And, and I feel, I felt like I
- 35:14wanted to go deeper with my
- 35:15audience and I, I, I was trapped
- 35:17by the medium.
- 35:18Like I felt like I couldn't, you
- 35:20know, I'm not Dave Chappelle,
- 35:21like he finds a way to like
- 35:23have these messages and
- 35:24things and, you know, and, and
- 35:26some comics are capable of that.
- 35:28I'm.
- 35:29I didn't feel like that was
- 35:30me or my style of comedy, so I
- 35:33looked to, you know, teach, and
- 35:36that was also a part of me.
- 35:38I was a college administrator
- 35:41for a while, which was also
- 35:43a part of me that felt really
- 35:46called to give to young people,
- 35:48because my, you know, my college
- 35:50experience was both, like,
- 35:52amazing and also really hard.
- 35:55And I felt called to serve and
- 35:59until I didn't, until I felt
- 36:01like I am not, all parts of me
- 36:05are not giving anymore and I
- 36:08can't be in it like halfway.
- 36:11So, then the entrepreneur
- 36:15journey began.
- 36:16Came to be and yeah, it was
- 36:19like, you know, like, I feel
- 36:20like I'm firing on all cylinders
- 36:22and I love it, but also, yes,
- 36:24you can, there's a trap where you
- 36:26basically can, can work yourself
- 36:29into the ground.
- 36:30Right.
- 36:31A couple of things.
- 36:32One is that there's a
- 36:37temptation to Serve every
- 36:43possible client at every
- 36:45possible level.
- 36:47And if you have like a huge team
- 36:51and you can have a ton of offers
- 36:53and do that and like kind of, you
- 36:56know, take people through all
- 36:58these different options and this
- 36:59little thing here and there.
- 37:02I mean, great, you know?
- 37:03But for the most, for most
- 37:06of us, especially when you're like,
- 37:09You're basically just providing,
- 37:10you're a solo entrepreneur,
- 37:11providing for yourself.
- 37:12Maybe you have a few contract
- 37:14workers here and there and that
- 37:16sort of a thing.
- 37:17Like, you really have to hone in
- 37:18on your offers, who you serve,
- 37:20and then you have to just
- 37:22blow their minds.
- 37:23And you just have to serve them
- 37:24so well that, you know, most
- 37:27of your business is coming from
- 37:29referrals.
- 37:29And I can say that still
- 37:31today, that's the case for me.
- 37:33Most of my business comes
- 37:34from referrals.
- 37:35That's a sign of a healthy
- 37:37business.
- 37:38And that's the recommendation
- 37:40that I would make to anybody
- 37:42is like, how do you create a
- 37:44couple of offers?
- 37:45Where you know, you can create
- 37:47a transform, transformational
- 37:49impact, and also it makes
- 37:53business sense.
- 37:54And also, you're filling
- 37:58a real need and providing an
- 38:01outcome that is not easy
- 38:05and, and maybe even a little
- 38:06rare for some people that they
- 38:08have difficult, a difficult
- 38:10time doing it.
- 38:11If you can tap into just that
- 38:13right there, that's the
- 38:15beginning of a successful
- 38:17business.
- 38:19Yes.
- 38:20Thank you so much for sharing
- 38:21and going a little bit
- 38:22deeper with me.
- 38:23You bet.
- 38:23Like led me behind the
- 38:25glasses, you know what I mean?
- 38:30Which I, which I really
- 38:31appreciate.
- 38:31So, you know, I, I will tell
- 38:33y'all right now, if you're
- 38:35watching or listening my
- 38:36watching or listening my
- 38:37clients that have worked with you.
- 38:41that have worked with Caesar have
- 38:43really not only transformed,
- 38:46but have said that doing their
- 38:48TED talk was a moment that
- 38:50changed their life, right?
- 38:52So, And I don't think it's the
- 38:53TED talk y'all, no shade to
- 38:55TED, but I think it's the process
- 38:58that you have, which is why
- 38:59I'm excited, you know, to
- 39:00eventually work with you.
- 39:01But if y'all are interested,
- 39:03please, please engage in some of
- 39:06these activities.
- 39:07How can they find the group?
- 39:10How can they get on a call?
- 39:11Tell them a little bit about
- 39:12how they can work with you.
- 39:13I love that.
- 39:14Yeah.
- 39:14Okay.
- 39:15So.
- 39:16If TEDx is the thing, like you
- 39:18want to go do a, do a talk, like
- 39:19you can join our Facebook group.
- 39:21It's just, you know,
- 39:22the Facebook, the,
- 39:23the Facebook, the,
- 39:24what is it?
- 39:24Forward slash speak TEDx.
- 39:26So group forward slash speak TEDx.
- 39:29And then
- 39:30you can always book
- 39:30a call with me.
- 39:31I've got, you know, slots.
- 39:32I've got, you know, slots.
- 39:34I'm usually booked out about
- 39:35three, four weeks in advance,
- 39:36but I've got slots where we
- 39:37can do a quick brainstorming
- 39:38session and I can tell you
- 39:40about kind of options that we
- 39:41would have to work together.
- 39:42And I have the same offer
- 39:45if it's a keynote speech, we could
- 39:46do a little brainstorm call
- 39:48and we could talk about what it
- 39:49would look like to work together.
- 39:50So yeah, we could provide
- 39:52those links or however you want
- 39:54to do it, Evolve
- 41:40Definitely.
- 41:41Yeah.
- 41:41So y'all, I will put that in the
- 41:43show notes so that you have it.
- 41:45And if you're listening,
- 41:46just going to look in, in the
- 41:47description of this show and
- 41:50just make sure that you let
- 41:53folks know, we learned this from
- 41:55the S4P podcast.
- 41:56Because I hear there's GIFs on
- 41:58the inside for S4P folks, but
- 42:00also, right, right, no trick.
- 42:03But also, you know, we want
- 42:04to know that you learned something
- 42:06from here, right?
- 42:07So do that as well, right?
- 42:08Even if you're like, you know
- 42:09what, I'm still on the fence.
- 42:10Or maybe you even have questions
- 42:12about what this process
- 42:13looks like.
- 42:14Put that in the comments so that
- 42:15we can give you some feedback.
- 42:17And don't worry, y'all,
- 42:18I answer folks.
- 42:19And I'm sure when this, when this
- 42:20amazing episode comes out, I'll
- 42:22be sure to send it to you, my
- 42:24friend, if I see a particular
- 42:25question for you.
- 42:26Cause y'all, I'm gonna let
- 42:27y'all know right now, I brought
- 42:28Cesar here cause I am not the
- 42:30TEDx genius.
- 42:33This is your person.
- 42:35So make sure that you, you deep
- 42:37dive into that.
- 42:37But I'm so thankful to know
- 42:40a person like you who's doing
- 42:41this amazing work and to get
- 42:43your dad jokes once a month.
- 42:45Evolve, you know,
- 42:46it's always a pleasure to spend
- 42:47time with you.
- 42:48I always feel lighter after
- 42:50connecting with you.
- 42:51You just have that incredible
- 42:53energy to make, you know, people
- 42:55feel good.
- 42:58And, and you create spaces
- 42:59where I think, people are
- 43:01where I think, people are
- 43:01allowed to be themselves and
- 43:02I just really appreciate that.
- 43:04No problem.
- 43:05All right, y'all.
- 43:05Well, until next time, have an
- 43:07amazing day.
- 43:08Go sell something,
- 43:09go monetize something, go
- 43:11try to speak for profit,
- 43:13share your story with the world.
- 43:14And until next time.
- 43:15Peace!
- 43:16See ya!
- 43:17Bye!