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EP. 44: When All the Tests Are “Normal”… But Your Child Isn’t · Motherhood: Aligned and Assigned

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  Welcome to Motherhood Aligned and Assigned, where
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  we help guide mothers from symptoms to solutions.
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  We are Dr. Serena Kaufman and Dr. Veronica Schultz
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  nervous system specialist, helping families discover
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  the missing link in their wellness journey
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  Join us as we translate complex health challenges into
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  simple, actionable solutions for you and your children.
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  your family deserves to thrive.
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  Not just survive.
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  All right.
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  Dr. Veronica and I have noticed a set of two
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  trends when it comes to people who find our office.
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  A lot of times people find us when they've tried
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  everything else, and so we either get one group that.
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  They come in because they said we ran labs and my
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  doctor says, I'm fine.
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  Everything is normal.
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  And me coming from this functional medicine
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  background, I'm like, well.
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  Probably not, but we can chat.
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  And then we have the other end of the spectrum.
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  The people who have already, dove way in deep into
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  the functional route and they've had $600 stool tests
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  and EKGs for their heart.
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  'cause maybe like there something's wrong with
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  their heart and MRIs, like all these things, right?
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  And the Dutch test, that's like $500 plus.
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  And like all my labs are terrible.
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  I, I'm dying,
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  Basically.
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  Like, and, all these supplements cost this much and this detox
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  is this much and it's gonna take this much time and I
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  have to do this specific diet.
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  And they are torn of, they don't know which direction to
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  go because they're overwhelmed with all of the options, right?
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  So we have my.
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  Physician said everything's fine, or My functional medicine
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  doctor said, I have all of these things wrong with me
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  and it's gonna take this like thousands of dollars
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  protocol to, get to my gut.
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  It's usually the gut.
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  Get my gut back on track.
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  And a lot of times those people that go the gut route,
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  they spend thousands of dollars and months and change
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  their diets and like uproot their whole life to kind of
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  feel okay and be stressed.
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  And their nervous system is more stressed, and
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  they're not very happy.
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  And they come to us and like, I don't know what else to do,
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  but I've already spent this much money, so I don't wanna
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  spend any more money, but you should tell me what to do next.
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  Yeah, literally.
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  Let's see,
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  And what we're probably gonna tell you is how's
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  your nervous system?
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  We're not gonna tell you.
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  We're gonna ask you, how's your nervous system, and
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  we're gonna scan you with our insight scans that tell us
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  what's the balance of your nervous system look like?
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  Are you full throttle on the gas pedal, which is keeping you
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  in fight or flight in which you can't tap into rest and die?
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  Digest your gut.
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  A brain gut connection.
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  how are.
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  are.
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  Levels that each segment of your nervous system doing, that we
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  can peek in through your spine are, is it, is it really shut
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  down and there's no tone there?
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  So there's isn't this brain gut connection probably.
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  we have objective ways to measure.
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  Hey, your nervous system's not online, and it's the
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  foundation for everything.
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  And so what if, just kind of throw it out there.
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  This is what I have to do with like, with the people who just
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  like, have so much information at their fingertips and so
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  many functional providers who all have their expertise is
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  like, okay, here, here me out.
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  Here me out.
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  You can do all these other things.
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  But your nervous system is the foundation.
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  It is the master system.
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  Air traffic control for all other cells, organ
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  tissues of your body.
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  And it's not glamorous, right?
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  I'm not gonna make you take something three times a
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  day and change your diet.
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  And it's gonna seem really, Silly to like coming from this
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  like big, hefty functional route that we're simply
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  removing stress from your nervous system so that you.
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  Can adapt and heal the way you were designed to, right?
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  That your body can do this itself.
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  You can do so much itself.
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  If we remove what's in the way and we're just removing what's
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  in the way, we're not adding a bunch of stuff, which feels
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  too easy for people who've come from the functional route.
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  And it seems bizarre for the people who are coming from
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  their primary care physician who has like run ran A CBC, say
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  like, well, you're not anemic.
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  Good luck.
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  Like.
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  Dr. Spicy today?
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  Yeah, look, this isn't, I think we're both feeling a
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  little spicy like it, but I'm just, it can be really
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  frustrating to know like this.
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  I'm this far into practice and I am pretty dang
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  confident that we can get you.
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  Pretty far by regulating your nervous system.
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  When I see your scans and I put your story together, I know
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  we can make leaps and bounds, and then if we need to touch
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  up with functional medicine and get the parasites outta
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  your body, fine, let's go.
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  Let's find someone that can do that.
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  Uh.
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  but here's, here's what's like driving me absolutely crazy.
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  Is that like, yes,
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  that like, yes,
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  fine.
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  You need to do a parasite cleanse.
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  That's wonderful.
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  If your liver is offline, if your spleen in your kidneys and
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  your bowels are offline, where are those parasites gonna go?
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  Right?
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  Like, it's like why do we keep, I understand
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  gut health and like.
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  like.
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  And, and I understand this is kind of like
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  an US problem, right?
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  'cause we need to get out there to these funk med docs
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  and be like, Hey, we just need one more layer before
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  you do all of these things.
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  But the problem is that we, we as a society have gotten so
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  knowledgeable about the gut that we've forgot the basics, right?
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  It's like, it's just like you were saying, there's like,
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  you know, there's detoxes and tinctures and supplements and
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  all of these things, you know?
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  Stand on one foot, jump up and down and do a back
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  flip while you're drinking this like milk thistle.
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  I don't even know if you can
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  Out on the full moon.
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  seriously is like, you know, mercury and retrograde
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  or whatever they call it.
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  Like, my goodness, you're gonna do all of these
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  things to a, a gut system that's offline, I mean.
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  That'd be like, you have like a, I'm looking at all my wires
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  here and I'm thinking you have like an extension cord and
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  you're like, I'm just gonna keep plugging things into
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  it until it starts working.
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  When you just need to like plug it into the wall, right?
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  Like put it into source.
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  Like that is literally what it's like is we're adding all these
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  things that Sure might help in some ways, and they do help.
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  It's not that I'm saying they don't help, it's just
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  that if you don't do the foundation and the basics
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  first, you are literally.
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  Throwing things at a system that is already overwhelmed
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  with what it currently has.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And I hate to say this, but also now you're kind of causing
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  more damage because now, now after, so, and I think
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  where I'm getting like spicy about this is like I'm seeing
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  patients in the middle of their decision making skills, right?
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  Where it's.
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  like.
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  For the first probably year practice, it was like I got
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  the people who had already tried it all and they were
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  like, no one else can help me.
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  What do I do?
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  Now?
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  I'm getting a wave of patients of like, I have choices and
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  I haven't necessarily done it yet, but I'm trying to decide
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  and, and I'm just watching them like collapse at this level of
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  should I try this and should I try that and should I try this?
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  And it's looking very similar to my patients who come from
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  the medical world, right?
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  Because they're just.
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  Guessing that's what it is.
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  Like they're just guessing, well, that didn't work, so let's
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  more expensive guesses too.
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  And so now it's like I'm watching these patients, I'm,
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  I know we're gonna see them in our office eventually because
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  it's like I'm watching them.
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  them.
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  Be dysregulated going into this practitioner's office.
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  Try something, get hopeful, try something, lose their hope.
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  Say, oh, let's try this instead, try that thing.
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  Lose their help.
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  They're also paying for all these things in the process.
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  And then they come to us like Dr. Sharita said broke and
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  dysregulated and sad and being like, what can you do for me?
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  And it's like, man, I just wish,
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  Mm-hmm.
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  we could catch you and we could say the right
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  things to have you hear us.
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  Because you're right.
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  do we need
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  simple.
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  Literally.
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  I know.
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  It's like, and I think it's, I think that you hit
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  it, the nail on the head.
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  It's like it's too simple.
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  'cause I'm literally like, well, we just need
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  to release the stress.
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  And they're like, well, that can't be it, so I need to
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  try all these things first.
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  And then, oh, it didn't work a lot.
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  Well, you know, I didn't get the rose results I wanted to.
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  And so now I'm back into your office and it's like, man.
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  I, I want these things to work for you.
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  I really do.
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  And that's why I want you to go through the office first,
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  so that after that, after your gut is online, after your, you
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  know, your liver is functioning and detoxing properly, you
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  know, then you take that and you do whatever you want with it.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Yeah.
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  Got that.
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  off our chest.
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  Thank you for listening to our TED Talk.
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  Anyway, have a good day.
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  I don't care.
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  care.
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  so I have a good example, just to paint a picture of.
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  How the nervous system can, once interference is removed,
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  can do incredible things.
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  So I have a patient, she came in, she was referred
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  to us by a friend who's like, no, seriously,
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  this is life changing.
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  Just give it a shot.
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  'cause she was at a loss.
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  her heart rate was spiking after she did sports.
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  And, when her job got stressful, but she was
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  like, she cognitively knew.
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  She's like, this shouldn't be that stressful.
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  But my heart rate spikes and it doesn't come back down
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  for the rest of the day, and then I'm exhausted by
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  dinner time and I have to like take a nap or something.
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  It's just terrible.
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  It's just this cycle of does anything that requires
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  like tapping a little bit into fight or flight.
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  Gets way stuck in fight or flight and then can't come
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  out of it no matter what she does, like breathing
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  exercises, all these things.
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  And so she was planning, she was ramping up to go get, blood
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  tests to see like all of the, lab markers for her heart health
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  to see like, okay, something might be wrong with my heart.
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  which was gonna, that's like a whole process you have to
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  go through to like primary care physician then get
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  referred to by a cardiologist and then get the labs if
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  they agree to run the labs.
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  All those things.
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  And then she was considering like, right, we can
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  consider supplements.
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  Like what supplements?
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  Can you just calm me down and relax me?
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  Like all of these things.
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  And she comes from like a medical background as
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  far as education, right?
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  So I had a, this was like a tough one to.
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  Just have really sharp communication skills on
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  conveying the story I saw in her scans and how that was relating
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  to how she was doing right.
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  There was a lot of stress on her.
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  Upper cervical vagus nerve.
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  Vagus nerve is our brake pedal, okay?
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  It's a rest and digest, so the vagus nerve can
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  slow down her heart.
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  Can slow down our breathing and respiration
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  can turn on digestion.
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  It is directly correlated with the tone of our
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  digestive system, by the way, and directly correlated
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  with our immune system.
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  That's linked to our digestive system, And so my theory
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  was is like, look, this isn't on my list of things
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  that I've helped, right.
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  I haven't directly helped with, improving.
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  Heart rate and fight or flight in this acute manner.
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  But overall, there's stress here on the vagus nerve
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  and we gotta get that off and see what happens.
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  And it took a whole, like the first phase of her
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  care, the first 12 visits, like not a lot of change,
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  re-scanned, I had to change up the technique I was using.
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  And then in this second phase of care, huge difference.
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  She's like, I'm having good days, like I'm playing
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  pickleball and I'm not, like my heart rate isn't skyrocketing
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  and it comes back down.
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  I'm not exhausted by dinner time.
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  I didn't need a nap today.
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  She's like, but I suck at pickleball because I can't
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  get into fight or flight.
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  She's like, for the first time in years, she's
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  like, for the first time in years I'm not winning.
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  which is really interesting.
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  Yeah, her body's like way, let off the gas pedal and
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  she's like, I can't get it.
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  it.
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  But that's, so I just think that's so, I mean, that's so
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  typical of the process, right?
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  It's like healing.
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  We think that healing means turning everything off, but
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  that's actually still in your, that's almost like when
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  you get into repair, right?
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  Because it's like you come in on one end, whether you're too
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  low or too high, and then your body swings to the other side.
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  Right?
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  And get stuck there too.
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  But it's like, now we're gonna help it.
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  Repair and actually be able to go back and forth.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I find that it's the other side that they weren't being, weren't
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  able to tap into the body just spends time there tapping
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  like, yes, finally we did
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  Yeah.
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  Like rebuilding that until I can find balance.
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  But she doesn't have to go get all those heart
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  like blood tests and scans
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  Isn't that crazy?
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  Yeah.
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  she did get, I think she did get an EKG for her heart.
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  She's like, well it was normal.
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  So I don't know.
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  it's like, well, the root issue was not that your heart was
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  all of a sudden like beating faster and doesn't know how
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  to regulate itself, right?
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  The, the organ does what the nervous system tells
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  it to do, no matter what.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  So that's just like a very, I feel like that's a very crystal
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  clear example of let's look at the root cause and chiropractors
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  are always gonna say.
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  That they're, they can get you to the root cause 'cause we're
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  lit. Like we are one of the only providers that are directly
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  interacting with and removing stress from the nervous system,
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  which is your master system.
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  and that's just how it is.
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  So we're gonna feel like we know the answers all the time.
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  We.
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  We,
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  A lot of us are a little cocky because, because we see cool
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  stuff and we have for forget
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  And I wouldn't even say.
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  Yeah, I feel like it's, it's not even just cockiness at
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  this point, because I think it, the cockiness would be
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  like if we were going off of pure intuition, right.
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  Which.
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  Which
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  Some of our professionals,
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  I'm gonna say, like I said, some of us are cocky,
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  yes, that's
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  not all of
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  that's true.
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  Some are like, we're just so cool.
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  'cause like seriously, even without the framework that
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  we operate under px, you can get amazing things done
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  in chiropractic in general.
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  And it really is, and it's not that we're doing anything
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  different within chiropractic.
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  We're just changing our intention and we're changing
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  the approach and we're almost like We're, we're making
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  sure to never get too cocky.
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  I mean, it's pretty cool what we do, but too cocky because
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  we still have to, you know, we still have to hear you out.
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  I mean, I still have to know what's changing
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  every time you come.
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  I still need your insight.
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  I can't just, like, it's not me doing these things.
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  It's like me understanding your body so that I can
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  then educate your body how to understand itself.
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  Right.
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  And I can't do any of that without scans, without your
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  insight, without you, you know?
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  So it's like, it's a team effort, but then as a team.
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  We will go off because
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  Yeah.
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  the craziest things happen and it's so cool to Yeah.
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  I would say I'm pretty cocky about my, my ability
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  to see my patients.
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  I will say that I'm very good at that.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Yeah.
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  So it's all about searching for, in your quest to
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  figure out what's going on.
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  Have you considered that it's your nervous system, and that
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  at some point in your life have you experienced emotional,
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  physical, chemical stress?
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  That's, that's been more than your nervous system
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  can process it once, and so you're in the store.
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  Or for my older people, not old people, older people
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  who aren't kids, right.
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  It's just been a lifetime of just general emotional,
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  physical, chemical stress, and so that just builds up
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  to create an older generation that's just like a slow
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  storm that's compounded over time and not just like
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  acute traumatic birth or,
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  Well, there's not too, it's just the body's compensated.
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  And then now, now we're in a different set of,
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  Yeah.
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  Amazing.
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  So whether you in or in the category of like, I've done
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  all the things and now I don't know where else to go.
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  I used to call us that office, like so many people came to us.
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  I used to call us the office that people came to when no
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  one else knew what to go to.
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  And I just feel like we're getting called into a new
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  segment of people who don't need to go through that journey.
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  They can find us first and then we will help you.
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  You know, refer to that funked dog.
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  It's not that we're, that's another part of the
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  cockiness that we don't have.
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  Right.
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  It's like, I will never say that all you need in your
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  life is chiropractic care.
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  I, I truly don't believe that, but I will say, you need
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  chiropractic care first for all the things in your life,
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  Hmm.
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  and I will die on that hill.
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  Yeah.
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  That's a good hill.
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  Okay.
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  I'll pray this out.
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  Okay.
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  Dear Lord, thank you for all of the beautiful minds
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  that you have, created and put on this earth to help
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  us navigate our fallen world that comes with disease and
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  dysfunction and sickness.
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  Lord, thank you for.
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  This path that Dr. Veronica and I have found to help
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  people get to the root cause and bring a piece of heaven
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  down to earth and healing so that your creation can live
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  as optimally as you designed.
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  Amen.
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  Amen.
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  Thank you for joining us on Motherhood Aligned and Assigned.
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  We hope today's episode helped you connect the dots in your
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  family's health journey.
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  Remember, this is where nervous system health
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  meets motherhood wisdom.
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  Until next time, we're Dr. Veronica Shilts.
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  Serena Kaman supporting you as you nurture your
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  family's wellbeing?
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  Because when you're aligned, everyone thrives.
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  Everyone,
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  Everyone.