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The NBA Report with John Robertson: Mostly Pacers (Guest: Michelle Garmon, Podcast No. 320.2) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_03]: What you are listening to now is the central Indian esports report podcast number three hundred and twenty point two the NBA report with John Robertson Honestly so far the NBA report is mostly just been excused to talk more Pacers And that's what we do on this podcast getting John's assessment of Tyre's Hall of Burton's the announcement that Tyre's Hall of Burton
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[SPEAKER_03]: is out all of next season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Miles Turner saga where the roster stands at this point and a little bit of a look ahead to the summer league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're listening to the central Indiana Sports Report with your host, Greg Mendelz.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome NBA and Pacer fans to the central Indiana Sports Report out here today at Tipton Municipal Golf Course to talk some WNBA.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But we decided to do a impromptu NBA report with John Roberts.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Since we have our heard as opinions on what the Pacers have done, where they're headed, and some other NBA news.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's been a while since we've talked to them in the NBA because you've been so busy with the WWE.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have been incredibly busy this summer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so Michelle Garmin is also with us.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Once again, tip to municipal golf course, get out here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you're a golfer,
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[SPEAKER_03]: don't neglect it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a good one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: John, you thought so my astrona.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm sad to see miles go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I really like him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like when players are with a team for a long time and have loyalty, but on the same opposite side of the same coin, I think that money wise, it's the better move to let him go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: After watching
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[SPEAKER_02]: The press conference with Richard, I feel like Miles kind of left without letting the Pacers know he was going to leave.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At least that was the read that I got.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how accurate it is, and I'm going to reserve judgment.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think Miles Turner walks away from a negotiation if he thinks it's a good faith negotiation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's fair.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think the Pacers were very serious about resigning him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think they like the flexibility more than they like miles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and I think that's I think that's fair to they said that the halibut and injury didn't come into play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't purchased been watching what we've all been watching.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that miles wanted too much money.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think the market dictated his value too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like he was probably worth the money to someone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And as a business person, you're going to take the money.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, loyalty is worth a lot, but like, you know, you start putting multiple ms in front of it or after it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: sometimes you're going to take the money.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not a miles hater.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he had a good Eastern conference finals.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he had a good finals.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he was worth trying to keep it against Cleveland.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he was great against Cleveland.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's been great in the regular season for a lot of time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I like having him here, but I think the money was just too big.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I really do think that it kind of solved the problem for the Pacers and they didn't have to go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't have to go into the luxury tax.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they went and got Jay Huff who's a similar type less experienced
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[SPEAKER_03]: Probably not definitely not as good as Miles Turner, but a kind of Miles Turner style player for the backup role.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that he's going to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the highlights I watched of.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I pulled elsewhere that can come here and actually do something big.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe maybe he does something good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But maybe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The preacher didn't say these words during his press conference, but he basically said, we like where we are at Center right now, better than we did in the finals last year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's right, especially if Isaiah Jackson and James Weisman are anywhere near what we started to see at the beginning of last year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because they were exactly what the Pacers did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Michelle and I have been referring to this since last season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Myel's Turner is a better player than Isaiah Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But Isaiah Jackson does things that myel's Turner doesn't that would be perfect in the Pacers offense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And now we're about to find out if that's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And his potential is, you know, everybody talks about the potential of Isaiah Jackson just because of this, you know, especially if this injury did not slow him down or take away from any of his vertical jump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: wiseman is the man in the preseason last year you started to go man James wiseman if he's this good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, I had all the sudden he was gone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As I got told great there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're looking at wiseman and Jackson is being one player for this season and hoping the next year when Halle Burton comes back, they have two really good centers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I like it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like what they did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that there's drama involved, you know, of course.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The thing, I don't, I feel like something happened between the players with miles, because when the Pacers put out all their thanks for your time here, miles, tweets, and all that stuff, and Instagram posts, not a single one of them got liked by a Pacers player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you go back and look at all, throughout the season, they were like in each other stuff all the time, and they were interacting, and like Benedict Madden made a post on Instagram yesterday of him dunking on miles in a practice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that was literally the picture that Ben put up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's there's something going on there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think I'm going to guess that his teammates are probably a good fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's pretty good fun, but they probably also feel a little slided because I'm going to guess they didn't know either until Shoms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If Kevin Pritchard didn't know, I'm going to guess another teammates knew either until that tweet that he was headed to Milwaukee.
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[SPEAKER_02]: one that was their whole thing their whole team thing was like we're in it for each other we're like you know band of brothers and then one of them just bails like with that work without a word yeah we'll see we'll see what happens only one side is told this side of the story probably only one side will
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you what, it's like I told Greg the other day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I said I really think in today's day and age.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody want, you know, there's leaks everywhere, social media.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You like it, Shenz.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that there were good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do think they were negotiating.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do think that the Pacers had a threshold.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't want to pay him a certain amount.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't want to give him a fourth year player option.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they didn't want to have a no trade clause or a fifteen percent bonus in the trade.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't want any extras.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a flat out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think it was true.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know, but I think it was only a two or one of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't we don't know that because they do like miles and miles as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Love by the city so that that has that has something to do with the two with how to burden out he's their fifth best player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't yeah, but but if you can but if you can get him just for two or three year but anyway, but what I think happened is somebody in that agency that was you know
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[SPEAKER_00]: representing Turner leaked that and then that came out that way and I said you know twenty years ago before you had social media that stuff did not happen and unfortunately it keeps happening in an increasing time and there are some players I've actually seen that are
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[SPEAKER_00]: ticked and who was it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was somebody not very long ago that that leaked and they said that's not true and they ended up not going there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was somewhere else and I think they were ticked that there was somebody leaking their information because that's not what you want.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, here's the thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just break it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A mile's Turner is a big Star Wars fan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a huge Star Wars fan, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is his Anakin turns into Darth Vader moment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, look, if he'd gone to Dallas, I think we would have still loved him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But he went to Milwaukee and betrayed us.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He betrayed it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, no, you were supposed to be the chosen one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And again, one day, I'll love Miles Turner.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I look forward to the day that we honor him in Indianapolis when he's no longer wearing that ugly, ugly, ugly bucks uniform.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I did see a tweet last night that said, do you retire his number?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I said absolutely no, no shot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, there's only two modern paces with their numbers retired.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, give us a break.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's why I was might thought like, you know, he's been classy to be the meals numbers not retired.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't retire my own number.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But we do respect the time that he gave us.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He is a memorable all-time pacer without question.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And a great guy with a great personality who is not a bad guy, but he's in Milwaukee now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he's a bad guy to us until he's no longer in Milwaukee.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Fair enough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Tyre's how to burden out for the season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think we're all happy about that right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would rather be off for the season than trying to hurry back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did see a report that it was a higher spring than they thought so that it gets more blood flow so they think that he can heal quicker.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They've also learned that getting to the
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[SPEAKER_03]: to a fast or a surgery, helps recovery tell him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And shout out to Boston's front office for like they called us and let us help you with anything we've learned with Tatum.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's classy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is classy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I hate when the teams I hate are classy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't hate Boston.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm fine with Boston.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, yeah, not a lot of news there other than, you know, it's still been good to see him out doing stuff supporting the team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He went to some early to watch the gamer to you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's been a fever game, so he's still supporting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Love that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's out there every day, apparently.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love Haliburton as an indie guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I really do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know the best move right now would be to trade him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're never going to do that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, for the franchise to win a championship, the best thing they can do right now would be to use their best asset.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But there's so many assets but there's no way he's in fact Birchard says when they when they make their final decisions there are five people in the room and tie resaliburns one of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like trading him now would be not as good because his values low was the injury.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Good point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean yeah, I understand what you're saying but I'm like yeah, why would you sell your stocks at the bottom instead of the top bringing it up was most mostly stupid but
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I just wanted to point out that even that even with that he's a lifetime basis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, I love him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope they never, I think.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tyrease and Caitlin are the two best things going in this year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll value you for Tyrease, Halbert, and if you're the patient, then I'll just can't.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's the best.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Love him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Any other?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I never thought that the Reggie Miller one day would have a chance to be my number two favorite pacer, but it's I don't know that it could be generation gap wise like you know the younger kids will have like Tyre's more than then Reggie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know the Tyre's lover pass Reggie for the championship he could
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that they're just going to be on a plateau together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're kind of, I think it's, I think they'll be... They're definitely like watching their interaction.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're watching.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Equal, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're likeable because they are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have a bond and what they do and they both love their organization.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They both love basketball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go watch it and I think, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: think the greatest thing is your tirey says he's going around on his ankle scooter but he he's going the fever games sitting in a sweet he's going to practice is for summer like he's going to the you know the summer like he's looking into he loves the sport of basketball picking of players we love on a scale of one to ten how much are you in on Johnny Furfey watch this summer you're a ten oh
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're all a ten.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Come on, we're all a ten.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a, I'll give him a seven and a half.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm more like John.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think it's six to seven.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's never watched what you're, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I think Murphy's got potential, but like I've got to see something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited to see if, if Cam Jones gets healthy, what he can do just because he's so athletic and he's versatile.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's, you know, he's kind of in that, he's kind of in that Drew Nimbard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: thing and I'm anxious to see if he can develop into that because as I said
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we have to look at somebody who's going to replace what TJ McConnell brings to this team off the bench because TJ's, you know, he's going to talk about the end of TJ's pacer state.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's something we are not going to talk about on this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying you've got to look at, you've got to look at his age.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you don't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the salary he is making.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And the salary he is making.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He better be on the roster the day I die, Michelle.
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[SPEAKER_03]: John Robertson, quitting Jackson.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a lick as you want to sing your song.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If Phoenix picks up the fever pick up a sister from Phoenix, then you can sing it twice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't wait.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You'll be singing twice now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A quitting Jackson is a guy who could step into the role of the
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[SPEAKER_03]: emergency point guard he's gonna be someone I'm gonna be interested in by the way starts What day the week is I never know what day the week is it's summer man Thursday the summer league starts for the Pacers against I think Cleveland if you're watching on YouTube it's behind you Just look at the screen right now
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I believe it's against Cleveland.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't really matter.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care who they're playing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm only interested in
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[SPEAKER_03]: what the paces are doing by love summer league and scouting the guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: To me, it just gets me excited about potential of the future, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's fair.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think if we didn't have fever to watch, I would follow it more, but because fever is in season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Again, YouTube, ten minute replays.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You two, ten minute replays.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll give you a lot of information.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's just so much going on in the world.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm on Johnny for a few watch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he'll be good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's a fan favorite.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like people love when he's in the game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I hope he turns out okay front office thinks he's special.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll see he's excited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's a crowd pleaser.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I he can't play a look at defense so I'm not I don't hear defense doesn't mean defense is about hustle and desire.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it is man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you do not have
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[SPEAKER_00]: You do not have to do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why the patient went from bad at defense to good at defense with the same play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do not have to be a man to be the best defender you can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: me might gain a little bit more boy he but he still doesn't have the potential of an NBA body I don't see I think you know what I think he is I don't think he's a fun white kid to watch play basketball I could say the girls like to watch him they can't I mean look at the players he is no I mean he's not a girl to some of these young guys it came out this year in the draft
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm, I just hope he turns out okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Anything interesting Kevin Durant being traded to Houston.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anything else catch your answers?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's been a pretty, pretty slow summer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did see it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The big news was look at the likeers in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the,
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's going to have some nature of Tyre's caliber.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the question is, is this why I want more information before I speak on a too much?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is he just going to retire from the NBA?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Could be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I don't think he really cares that much about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He said his whole life since he's been in the NBA, his goal is to retire from the NBA and play for the national team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So what does him not signing an extension mean?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Does it mean another team could get him or does it mean he just does?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it means another team could get him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's my guess.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think he's done playing in the NBA, but
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a risk you take if you dreadful for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I also think he wants to see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean Denver did retooling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean they got their salaries down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But a lot of people liked the retooling they did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think that's a better team right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Yoke is ready to see waiting to see how good they are and then if they look good how willing is Denver to I don't think he thinks like all the other stars in the NBA.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't I don't think his team who with his teammates are as far as I think he thinks he can take any team and win a championship.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's whether he likes the guys in the locker room, whether he likes the guys in the front office, whether he likes the city, whether he because he is not like other.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No interest in Starkham.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He sees basketball as a job exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't really care as much about it as.
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[SPEAKER_02]: like like I don't think he cares about legacy not even a lot except for the national to yeah but I'm just I don't I think he just wants to make some money go back to wherever and have his horses and that's exactly what he is that's right and good for him yeah absolutely good for him for having that's perspective best player I've ever seen yeah like like in the moment best player
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like Larry Bird with more size and honestly, probably even a better shooter, it's unreal how good he is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And if he played with Tyre's Hall of Burton, I would trade the rest of the freaking team to make that happen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's interesting because he is just so much fun to watch.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The most fun player
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[SPEAKER_03]: Probably since Larry bird.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you okay to watch play basketball in the show, Kitche.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thirty.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't trade everything.
18:52
[SPEAKER_03]: He looks like he's forty five.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He does.
18:54
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's thirty or thirty.
18:56
[SPEAKER_00]: But I just said because he's got a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He is also a guy that's got a lot of wear and terror on his body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He really does.
19:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And so at age thirty, I wouldn't give up everything for him.
19:08
[SPEAKER_03]: But even last year, he was the best player as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He might have been and he might be, but I'm not going to give it just like it's just like it looks like it LeBron James are forty.
19:16
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to get to see him in a pastry uniform every night.
19:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, with Alabama.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That gives us a segway, Michelle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think LeBron stays with Los Angeles or do you think he's going to go back to Cleveland?
19:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, I know you say that, but if I'm I find the Cavaliers, I don't want him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I know, but I don't want it.
19:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Then I, but they're going to have to trade with a lot and I. They're not.
19:39
[SPEAKER_00]: They will.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to get it.
19:41
[SPEAKER_00]: They will.
19:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they don't, they're going to have to to match him.
19:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's going to make fifty million dollars this year.
19:48
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a lot of money.
19:49
[SPEAKER_03]: The Lakers will give away from us nothing.
19:51
[SPEAKER_00]: But there's still, but Cleveland will be responsible for that salary.
19:55
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what that's what I mean.
19:57
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's happening.
19:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I don't, you know, I think it's fifty-fifty on whether it happens.
20:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's, I don't think it's a sure bet because I really, Cleveland's young.
20:06
[SPEAKER_00]: They've kind of made some things that have, you know, made them a better, a little bit better defensive team.
20:10
[SPEAKER_00]: You're talking about getting LeBron who makes a lot of money, but
20:15
[SPEAKER_00]: He only wanted one championship.
20:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he actually literally gave up on him.
20:19
[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of what I think with LeBron and Cleveland, like he started there and tried.
20:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Then he left and took his talents to South Beach, which to me is the day that ruined his legacy.
20:27
[SPEAKER_03]: That's him.
20:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not that he went to Miami, the way he did.
20:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Just because he had the way.
20:31
[SPEAKER_02]: He did it for me.
20:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Not one, not two, you know.
20:35
[SPEAKER_02]: But so, if any went to back to Cleveland, and then he went to LA,
20:42
[SPEAKER_02]: and then back to Cleveland.
20:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't.
20:44
[SPEAKER_02]: It's happening.
20:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's another reason.
20:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not so sure it happens.
20:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Ronnie still in LA.
20:50
[SPEAKER_00]: His youngest son's going to play at Arizona.
20:52
[SPEAKER_00]: He's out there on the West Coast.
20:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's close to them.
20:56
[SPEAKER_00]: He can go watch.
20:58
[SPEAKER_00]: He likes watching his kids play basketball.
21:00
[SPEAKER_00]: There's personal days.
21:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know you say you can take him from Cleveland.
21:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the likeers have new manage, but they don't care about LeBron.
21:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
21:07
[SPEAKER_00]: But he picked up his option.
21:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they'll try, but I thought sure that LeBron wants to leave.
21:12
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the whole thing.
21:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And if he does not want to leave, he doesn't leave.
21:15
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a no-one track.
21:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Good point.
21:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what I'm saying.
21:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Or if he wants leaves, I'm not sure he wants to go back to Cleveland.
21:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I think LeBron did go bring another championship.
21:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I think they would be the best team.
21:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I could see him wanting to retire.
21:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Right now.
21:27
[SPEAKER_03]: It would hurt their future for sure.
21:30
[SPEAKER_03]: But right now, if he went to Cleveland,
21:32
[SPEAKER_03]: for Jared Allen, they would be unstop.
21:35
[SPEAKER_00]: But if I'm Cleveland, I just don't want them.
21:37
[SPEAKER_03]: They love them.
21:38
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm tired of City loves them.
21:39
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm tired of talking about them, really.
21:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Cleveland made the city in those fans because of the things he's done, but I don't want, I don't want them.
21:47
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're a true Cleveland Cavaliers basketball fan and you see potential, I don't want you.
21:51
[SPEAKER_03]: It depends on what your priorities are.
21:56
[SPEAKER_03]: I just, I don't want a forty-year-old, and maybe... For patients fans, the only priority to me is winning a championship.
22:02
[SPEAKER_03]: If you're franchises one championships, you have different priorities.
22:09
[SPEAKER_00]: When you a lot of championships, you're talking to feed them all.
22:11
[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably Brian or Michael Jordan with that pedigree.
22:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Then probably yes.
22:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I think LeBron's got different priorities at this point too.
22:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think he would take another championship.
22:20
[SPEAKER_03]: No, he is only priority.
22:22
[SPEAKER_03]: He's catching Michael Jordan.
22:24
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not good.
22:24
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22:24
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22:26
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22:26
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22:27
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22:27
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22:28
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22:29
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22:29
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22:30
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22:30
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22:31
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22:34
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22:35
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22:35
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22:36
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22:36
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22:36
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22:37
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not good.
22:37
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not good.
22:38
[SPEAKER_02]: He
22:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, because he knows.
22:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly right in his strategy to launch every year.
22:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're right.
22:45
[SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly right, John.
22:46
[SPEAKER_00]: He does it when he can't.
22:48
[SPEAKER_00]: He can barely play a lot.
22:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he has body's breaking down and he knows it's easy.
22:53
[SPEAKER_00]: He has bought, but he missed a lot more games than he's ever had without me.
22:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, he did.
22:58
[SPEAKER_00]: He missed a lot.
22:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about without really being major, you know, suffering an injury.
23:02
[SPEAKER_00]: He missed games last year for soreness.
23:04
[SPEAKER_00]: That's, you know, I'm telling you.
23:07
[SPEAKER_00]: He is not his bot and he knows it and here's the thing.
23:12
[SPEAKER_00]: He also knows if he goes out and doesn't ACL or blows in the key, at least he's done his career is over and done.
23:18
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think he wants to go and be that guy that plays Forty eight men knows he can't be that guy that plays Forty eight men at night for seven to games.
23:25
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not being cleavone.
23:26
[SPEAKER_03]: He will have to be in LA.
23:27
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, anybody else we want to talk about because I'm done talking about Le Verod.
23:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this next season come trade deadline is going to be very interesting.
23:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think there will be a lot of trades this summer.
23:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I saw where they said that this was one of the worst free agency classes that the free agent classes that they've had in a while.
23:48
[SPEAKER_00]: As far as like signings and stuff and I think you're going to see more big stuff happen.
23:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I think during next year's trade, I think you get teams are going to be
23:57
[SPEAKER_00]: interested to see how they're playing and what their future is, teams like Boston, even the Pacers to some extent because when you go in your playing without your superstars, you know, and how close you are, and that's what I think.
24:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that once a season starts and things go, that trade is going to be very interesting trade deadline.
24:16
[SPEAKER_03]: Before we go, how many games do you think the Pacers win next year?
24:20
[SPEAKER_03]: And by the way, LeBron James was seven games last year and was amazing.
24:24
[SPEAKER_02]: The Pacers will win, forty-one.
24:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Forty-one.
24:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Forty-five to fifty.
24:36
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's fifty.
24:38
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they're going to win more games this year than they did last year.
24:41
[SPEAKER_03]: Not because Hallebert, but because they were ten and fifteen at one point.
24:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Jerry's Walker and Benedict Mather and are the key.
24:48
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think there's any doubt about that.
24:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there's not.
24:51
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's time for Walker to step up and
24:54
[SPEAKER_00]: you know and matter and and and that's why I say the trade this next year's gonna be interesting even with the papers because you've got walker you've got matter and you've got obie top and then they got press conference he wants to make that big term yeah that's basically what he also wants to make that he also wants culture over
25:12
[SPEAKER_00]: actually do not over talent and so he's not it's not gonna be never panic know that you will never panic into a trade and you know and people are gonna laugh but you know it didn't even mean I mean so I couldn't even be on the block because of his age and different things next year just to see how things got a big name for sure yeah especially if Walker really steps up his poor you know his level but it's gonna be very that's why I said the patient maybe he'll make maybe he'll surprise me and make a trade before the season starts I think they're more not to make that big trade after the season started
25:43
[SPEAKER_03]: Guys, thank you so much appreciate your time as always.
25:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you so much for tipped in the musical golf course for hosting us on Wednesday mornings, and we will talk very soon.
25:52
[SPEAKER_03]: In fact, the fever game has begun.
25:54
[SPEAKER_03]: So I know I got to recap again soon.
25:56
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
25:57
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys have a good night.
25:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks guys.
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