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Spring Fever · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  And welcome back to the Boundary Corner Podcast, a part of the
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  College Huddle Network along with my partner, Brian Siegler
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  and our special guest host tonight, Coach Robert Compton.
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  I am Curtis Wilson and as always, we are brought to you by
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  the Counts Family Pharmacy, your friendly neighborhood pharmacy
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  three O 1 S Main St. in Blacksburg.
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  And if you are heading down to the spring game this weekend,
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  stop by say hello to Jeremy. If you don't want to say hello
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  to Jeremy there after the game, go say hello to Jeremy and Brian
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  and Pete B from 2D and Dan and you have a fourth.
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  Is it just y'all 3? I don't know if Sam's going to
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  be there or not, Sam. OK, I think Sam, Jesse from Suns
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  of Saturday all going to be at Maroon Door after the game.
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  That should be an entertaining few hours, because I know you
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  are. Not y'all.
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  Can't make me chug a rail because I'm not at TOTS.
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  You're not at Tots. That's true.
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  That's true, yes. We'll also say this me and Brian
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  freshly off of the Carnival Sunshine cruise out of Norfolk,
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  VA, where we got tanned, we drank, makes drinks, we gamble,
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  we were on crystal clear beaches.
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  Looks like the skipper didn't get stranded anywhere this time.
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  No he didn't. The skipper didn't get stranded
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  anywhere this time. Skipper had a fun though.
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  It was a good time, man, it was a good time.
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  You can't see them back here. How many shot glasses did we
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  get? We were there every night with
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  dinner, took at least one shot. I think Brian, you got one extra
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  because you took the Cinnamon Toast Crunch at.
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  The end I took one extra at the end of the week, but I missed
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  Tuesday because we were late getting back from NASA.
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  Did you roll like? Deep in the shot glasses like we
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  used to do with Macadoos in formal.
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  Yeah, Yeah, it was. It was at least it was 8 to 12
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  shots being taken every night at dinner.
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  Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
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  Yeah, I think we had a party at 30 though.
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  So I had the drink package too. So I was drinking all day, all
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  night at dinner. Might as well.
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  I had to get my money's worth. Once you spent the money, you
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  got to go out there and make sure you're getting.
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  Your money's worth. Occasionally Brown would just
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  roll up to me and be like he go. He's just like I got a drink on
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  some way. We'll say this.
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  We both ended plus in the casino PKS at 3:00 AM.
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  In there. Yeah, plus in the casino.
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  Lots of fun in the casino. Yeah, I was.
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  I was up just over 300 I think. Curtis, you were what, 350?
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  I was up No 240. OK.
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  But that last night. I was up.
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  Four grew up a. Lot I was up four and then I I
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  didn't have a good a Good Friday night, but that's OK.
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  Well, the the craps table finally said no Sir.
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  Yeah. And then the blackjack table, we
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  just kept getting well, how many times you hit 21?
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  Like twice or three times or? No, No, no.
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  You hit 23 times and the dealer drew to 21.
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  Drew to 21. Drew to 21.
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  Reason my favorite hand at a blackjack table is like 9:00 and
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  4:00. I like a nine four, yeah.
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  I kept getting like 5 and then getting like A8 or or getting a
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  nine or a face card. Like what are you doing?
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  Like stop dealing me these hands.
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  Either deal me something low or deal me something high.
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  Yeah, I kept getting, I kept getting like phase five, phase
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  6. Just the well it will all
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  depends on how many. Well we will say this ACE or or
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  phase five. Phase 6 is OK with a big table.
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  Yeah. Because with the big table,
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  there's a lot of info out there and you can say, you know what,
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  there is a bunch of face out there.
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  The odds aren't good. So good.
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  Me, Curtis, and one other random dude between us.
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  That was it. And we kept getting bad hands by
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  the way. Got to tell the cool story real
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  quick. So we, we are in the store on
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  the ship, the liquor store, you know where you.
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  I where the $75 Jack Daniels was.
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  The $75, three liter Jack Daniels, 3 liters.
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  I've never seen anything that big in my life.
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  I didn't get that. I got enough whiskey downstairs.
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  That's the that's the part of the story I missed.
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  I just thought it was a regular bottle of Jack for 75.
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  Three liters a different story. Completely.
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  It's a great deal. Yeah.
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  But you got to carry it all the way back to your car.
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  I got 2 bottles of rum. They had Bacardi liters for 15
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  bucks. I couldn't do it.
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  But anyway, so we're sitting there, me and I'm a neighbor,
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  Andrew. Brian, I think this was the day
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  you were in Nassau, Can't remember.
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  But you weren't there. So anyway, I just bought mine.
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  I just asked a couple questions about something and this lady
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  comes behind us notice she's got a Virginia Tech thing on and I
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  just kind of mentioned I'm Virginia Tech fan and she's
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  doing her stuff and we convinced her effectively to instead of
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  she, she got the Woodward's reserve.
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  My neighbor Andrew huge into whiskey told her there's a
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  double oak over there for $10 more go get it.
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  It's a better taste in one and so on.
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  And so and we start chatting with her and, and he mentions
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  offhand, you know, my buddy Curtis here does a, a, a podcast
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  for Genentech football. She stops and she cocks her head
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  towards me and said, then you must know my son.
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  I was like, well, who was that? Fontell mines mines Mama.
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  And I said, not only do I know your son, who he is, I have
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  interviewed your son on my podcast before and he is a super
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  nice guy. She was very nice.
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  I got a picture with her. I'll I'll have that up.
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  It was, it was funny though. Small world.
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  The the just the fact that she's wearing Virginia Tech stuff is
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  awesome considering where he went to school.
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  True. Well, I, I think, I think his
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  Mama knows who who pays the bills.
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  Yeah. Brian, anything you want to
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  share from the excursion? Oh man, riding the golf carts up
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  and down Bimini was pretty awesome.
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  Got to check out a guy harvesting some some conch right
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  out right out the the water there and then, you know, even
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  it from a shack that you know is held up by ply board.
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  And there was some some really good and really, really
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  interesting folks that we met there.
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  So I was just just excited to kind of take all that in,
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  experienced that and yeah man it was a good time.
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  And like like like I said, I took advantage of the drink
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  package on the boat so y'all know I was feeling good most of
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  the time. Yeah, he was feeling good most
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  of the time. Never got like shit faced I was.
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  I was just like, I just had a steady buzz most of the day.
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  Yeah, I don't know for sure, but I've always been told that you
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  can drink a lot more and not feel nearly as it's true.
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  Drop dead drunk. It's true on a cruise then you
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  can anywhere else because of the boat.
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  You feel half drunk when you're sober.
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  You do. It's not a lie.
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  So it is true. Like there were a couple days I
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  had, I don't know, I had 3-4 drinks in a tight period and
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  like I didn't feel it. Like I didn't feel it although
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  Monday. Oh yeah, Monday the shift was
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  rocking baby and they it was raining sideways in the morning
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  and then in the afternoon the the water got choppy and one
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  time she like listed to the left and like held for a a little
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  bit. I was.
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  Like, oh, all right, this isn't bobbing and weaving.
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  This is just bobbing. We just.
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  Holding the line right there I was in my room, I.
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  Felt like I was in the Smooth Criminal music video.
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  I've been, I've been Western North Carolina right now long
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  enough and I probably could have managed that.
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  I feel like one leg's getting shorter than the other already
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  standing on the heel. I'd have been good to go there.
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  We go, well, just so you know, it's out of Norfolk now, man,
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  and they're doing Bahamas and Brian, I looked up, they're
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  doing an Eastern Caribbean where you can go to Turk Grand Turks,
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  come back by half, Boone Bay, the Super nice little island on
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  the western part of the Bahamas. And then the celebration key.
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  Whale next time. Both of y'all's first cruises.
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  Both. Yeah.
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  OK. I've always heard stories that
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  once you go always, you're going to go forever.
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  Well, you're. Already planning the next?
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  One, I mean, it's, well, I mean for price per person and what
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  you get and where you go, it's unbeatable.
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  I mean, and Brian got the drink package and clearly he was
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  having the time of his life with a bunch of mixers and beers and
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  anything you want. Yeah, I was out there like if if
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  it was on the menu, I'm like, all right, give it to me some
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  some of the like rare rums that they had in a couple of bars
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  there, like made some African rum, they had some Caribbean
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  rum, they had some. Give it to him.
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  Yeah, yeah, whatever it is. So you know, you get a it's rum,
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  you get, you get you get a two finger for like 18 bucks or
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  anything under 20 bucks is in the drink package.
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  So. It's true.
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  Well, as much fun as that was and again looking potentially
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  going again, although we'll like we messaged you in November, you
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  should just. Come with us.
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  You should just came with us, we'd have a fun week Spring.
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  Break didn't. My spring break is next week.
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  Yeah. Well, maybe we'll look at, maybe
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  we'll look at the summertime. There we go.
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  There's Lavar. School places on my spring break
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  next week. Let me think this week there in
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  the Caribbean, you probably could find a room and go to the
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  Bahamas probably for like $1000, yeah.
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  I'm going to Windmill Bakery and I'm just as happy about that as
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  I would for those of you that know.
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  You know if. You know, you know, and if you
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  where we're from, you definitely know.
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  But anyways, we got a spring game to unload.
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  Riley went down to Blacksburg for a few days.
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  Can't tell the whole story, He can get in trouble, but go, go.
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  Got some insight, got some thoughts on things.
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  So we're going to talk about that.
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  Then we're going to do a little spring game preview, kind of
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  look at each position and what we're feeling on each position.
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  Talk about a few players here and there.
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  But Robbie, I want to start with you.
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  Obviously you went down for the coaches clinic where you got to
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  mingle with all the coaches, the new coaches, the old coaches,
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  see some practice, see some things, learn some things.
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  And I want to start because I know we know you're a defensive
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  guy and I know you spend a ton of time with the defense inside
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  those seminars and those trainings.
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  Give me your impression of Sam Cephas because he is the biggest
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  unknown in this group more than anybody else.
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  But what is your biggest impression of him just as a
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  person, as a coach? He he's a he's he's a very as a
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  person, as a coach. The man is a teacher.
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  And I know he's he said it in in several of his things that I've
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  watched since he's taking the job there at Virginia Tech.
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  Trying to follow him, trying to figure out, you know, looking at
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  his old stuff where he's been watching some film and stuff
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  from Wofford, watching some stuff with the Cardinals, which
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  are two totally different, well, not totally different looks, but
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  so much more involved with the Cardinals, obviously with a
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  group of pros compared to, to Wofford.
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  But you can tell he's a teacher. And he, he said it itself, it's
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  a coach is, is an educator to start with.
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  And he makes things so simple to the individuals in the room that
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  he's teaching his stuff to by giving things in chunks and
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  pieces, He calls them buckets. And, and it's, it's simple
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  education stuff that I use everyday, you know, taking
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  little pieces, building scaffolding, taking things, you
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  know, here things, you know, here, building pieces on to it.
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  So it all comes together in one piece.
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  And I think that's going to be huge in in allowing the guys
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  that they have there to, to learn this defense quickly and
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  effectively and be able to take off running when when they get
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  there. Can I ask you this, the stuff
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  you went through, did you feel like after sitting and hearing
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  him explain things that you could just go out like I can do
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  this through, I can, I can teach these elements like that.
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  Absolutely. Like I felt like just by
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  hearing, just by talking now I, I have a little bit more of a
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  base knowledge than the average person would.
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  But just the way he talked about things and put some things
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  together, I mean, it clicked to me.
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  I mean, I felt like I could go out and I could get a call and
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  hear it and know exactly where I needed to be, where anybody
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  needed to be at any time. So yeah, I mean, he very
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  effective teacher and that's going to help a lot with, with
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  younger guys coming in with everybody learning a new system
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  and some things like that. It's going to help tremendously,
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  I feel. Yeah, that's, that's exciting.
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  And I mean, I, you know, when you talk about the buckets and
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  kind of breaking down those things in the small pieces, I
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  think that's a, a big key, especially when you're learning
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  a new system like, like the Hokies are this year.
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  Being able to, to to make things digestible and to layer what
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  you're implementing in a way that, you know, we, we can do
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  almost like, you know, like a college course that you got one
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  O 120-1301 and you just kind of build it on it as you're going
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  along there. So, but that was that was
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  fascinating to see and to be able to to pull things there.
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  As a high school coach, I feel like I run a system that's
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  similar to some of the stuff that that Cephus does, obviously
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  at a much, much more basic level in high school than than the
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  complexity of some of the stuff that we know he can do by
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  watching films from from Arizona and and things like that.
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  But it was very easy for me to pick up the way he was, the way
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  he was showing things, the way he was teaching things to us and
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  just simple things. And how it could build on so
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  much and make it be so simple for his players to understand
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  and to pick up and to be able to run, but would look so complex
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  to anybody outside of it that didn't know how it's built.
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  Yeah, let me ask this Robbie. So like a lots been made about,
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  you know, needing a a a Buddha Baker type to for this thing to
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  run the way you want it to. Is it is what you're seeing is
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  are you going to need that caliber a player, not
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  necessarily a Buddha Baker, but someone that can cover a lot of
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  ground like that for this thing to function the way it needs to
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  I. I think to have a guy like that
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  is never going to hurt, but I don't.
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  I don't necessarily know just from my experience and and with
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  with a defense similar, you don't necessarily have to have
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  that guy. If everybody's on the same page
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  and everybody understands their purpose and their
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  responsibilities and certain things that one guy can make
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  some bits and pieces that aren't exactly perfect look incredible.
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  Yeah. Yeah, but I think I think you'll
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  be able to. I think the defense as a whole,
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  I mean in my opinion, he ran stuff similar at Wofford and
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  didn't have a Buddha Baker type guy and was obviously from from
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  the statistics that show at Wofford, he's very successful
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  with it. So I think it can be done pretty
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  well without it. It just got you.
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  It comes down to knowing your personnel and I think he
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  understands what he's given them and what he has and that that
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  he'll find that good mix of what he needs to make it effective.
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  Is this kind of like a balance between being able to be more
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  risky in some areas because you've got that caliber of a
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  player versus trying to learn more to a more risk averse and
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  sound? Yeah, I feel like standpoint,
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  OK, I feel like it is now when you can, when you can find that
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  kind of player, you can do some things that are maybe a little
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  more unconventional and, and take a little bit more risk
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  because you know, you've got some athleticism there.
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  They can back you up and and take you out of some spots.
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  But I think just what I know about some of the players and
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  things like that, I think he's got a good foundation to put
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  some things together and he's going to have people in the
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  right spots to to figure out what he needs to do with it.
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  Nice. Let's look to the offense real
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  quick. What did you notice?
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  I know you didn't spend as much time, but obviously you had
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  colleagues that were spending time with Montgomery, but what
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  did they notice about him and just what were the feelings from
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  them about how he ran his areas and how the players reacted and
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  things like that? They're, you know, as a coach, I
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  don't believe in putting another coach down.
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  I think Bowens had his, had his positives, had his pluses and
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  things that he did. But you could, to me, you could
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  tell there was more of a optimism or confidence in the
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  fact that Montgomery's coming in with experience.
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  He's put together offenses top to bottom, showed success,
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  things like that. And you could kind of feel that
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  almost somewhat of a relief. Not the uptightness of
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  wandering. You know, there's always going
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  to be skepticism. Bowen came in without a lot of
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  experience calling plays, setting up offense, running an
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  offense. You don't.
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  I don't feel like you felt that with Montgomery.
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  They, they know that he has a track record.
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  He has a reputation, he's been a head coach.
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  He's run offenses, he's run teams.
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  They have that confidence in what he's going to try to do.
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  And it's I feel like it's probably going to be a little
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  bit different than what we've seen the last couple of years.
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  Again, it's early spring practice.
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  It's, you know, first contact scrimmage is what we saw a lot
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  going to be different from there to the next week, much less the
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  spring game and then to the fall.
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  But I feel, I feel like there, there's some, there's some good
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  things there and and definitely some some good change that's
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  going to that should give some people some optimism, not so
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  much hype like we saw last year, but some optimism for the
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  process is going well and going in the right direction.
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  So instead of like so last year we had a lot of momentum and I
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  know we talked about this a lot, Curtis and Robbie.
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  I know we talked about it kind of off camera a little bit.
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  Like there was a lot of hype. You know, we kind of saw a upper
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  trajectory in in 23 at the end of the season.
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  You know, you had all these, you know, decent run there at the
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  end and we're like, you OK, we probably lost two earlier in the
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  year. We shouldn't have.
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  There's a whole lot of optimism. You had national media buying
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  into it. You had the fan base that I
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  probably, you know, hyped it into oblivion.
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  You know, this time last year we were having some very serious
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  discussions about, you know, can this team win, you know, 10
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  games and things like that. And I think, I think we don't
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  necessarily have any of that hype in this in this team, But I
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  think there's also, I think like you said, a kind of reserved
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  confidence of all right, well, if, if this, if this goes the
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  way it could go, we might be on to something.
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  And and that's not to say we're going to go out there and win
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  810 games. I don't think we we're
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  necessarily talked about wins or losses yet, But I think getting
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  some some new blood in those coordinator rooms, I think is
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  going to be a little bit of a shot in the arm for some of
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  these guys. And I think packing in,
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  especially on offense experience, not only, you know,
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  you looking at, you know, flipping over the the offensive
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  line room, but also what you're doing in the coordinator room
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  there. It feels like you're taking some
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  some of the correct steps you need to take to maximize the
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  talent that's already on this offense.
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  Absolutely 100. Percent.
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  Bike I was, I was hyping the thing up after being there last
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  year myself. Like I felt really good about
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  what you about what I saw at the beginning of it.
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  I feel good about what I saw this year and things like that.
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  But there's just a different luck plays a big part into that.
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  I mean, you get injuries and stuff early on.
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  You get things banged up, you get the right players banged up
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  in the right spots and that makes a turn real quick where
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  who immediately gets to blame for it play call in and things
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  like that. I'm not saying that that doesn't
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  have a part in it, but some of the other factors too that a lot
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  of teams you don't, they're not going to blame it on those
• 24:16
  things, but it pay, it plays a lot into it.
• 24:20
  And I think just the the experience, the all of those
• 24:28
  things that they have in the in place now with a little bit of
• 24:32
  luck, I think you're going, you're going to see a, I'm not
• 24:36
  going to say, you know, I'm not predicting any number of wins or
• 24:41
  anything, but I'm saying you're going to see a difference just
• 24:44
  unfold that that should show some momentum, should show some
• 24:48
  growth. So I feel, I feel pretty
• 24:52
  confident in that part. Got you real quick.
• 24:56
  So as you speak to the coordinators, obviously Stew
• 24:58
  Holtz now just a special teams coordinator and kind of helping
• 25:01
  out with the offense, anything with him in the new set up like?
• 25:07
  Yeah, I, I, I talked to, I talked to Coach Holt a little
• 25:09
  bit. And when I say coach Holt, I
• 25:12
  have to mean Stew or his dad, because I've had a, I've had a
• 25:15
  long running, long running relationship there with his dad,
• 25:20
  coached against him some when he was at Rocky Mountain High
• 25:23
  School. I have to go to the field.
• 25:26
  It's named after him here at * Mountain High School.
• 25:32
  So I deal a lot with with the Holts.
• 25:36
  But the the way things have kind of changed, the way they've kind
• 25:41
  of set up some things, I think it works out better for him to
• 25:46
  just be focused on his special team stuff.
• 25:51
  He, I'm sure he misses talking to his dad, you know, he misses
• 25:55
  position coaching stuff. Any coach is going to want to
• 25:58
  coach as much as possible, but I feel like by looking at what we
• 26:03
  saw at practice and stuff, there was always something involved
• 26:06
  special team wise when other things were going on.
• 26:10
  Changing structure then change the structure.
• 26:13
  So your practice structure is huge and, and we've done some
• 26:17
  things like that, like some teams will practice, you know,
• 26:23
  offensive ones against scout and in high school, offensive ones
• 26:27
  against scout, special teams in the middle, defensive ones
• 26:30
  against scout. That's how our 2 1/2 three hour
• 26:33
  practice is set up. We've had it to where, you know,
• 26:38
  varsity's on offense, J VS on defense and then we can split
• 26:42
  the JV up some at different times and do some special team
• 26:46
  stuff with them here, special team stuff with them there.
• 26:49
  And it looked to us, it looked to me like at practice the other
• 26:53
  day when I saw it, they're involving more things like
• 26:57
  they're doing certain group packages in different places,
• 27:00
  while some other guys that would typically be OK, we're going to
• 27:05
  go to individual stuff, they're doing a little more special team
• 27:09
  stuff. OK.
• 27:10
  So they're they're, so he's not just running around with the
• 27:12
  specialist while these these individual drills are going on.
• 27:16
  He's maybe maybe pulling a line here, pulling a line there and
• 27:19
  doing some. Some special team drill.
• 27:22
  It's not a corner full of kickers just standing around
• 27:26
  pulling Bryan. You, you play.
• 27:29
  You played college football. You know what those kickers do
• 27:31
  over there sometimes? Oh yeah.
• 27:33
  Oh yeah. There's.
• 27:34
  Some. Crab ass.
• 27:36
  There's guys that you know, they're still getting individual
• 27:39
  times and things like that, but there's times scheduled for them
• 27:42
  to be during doing certain special teams things and stuff
• 27:47
  like that. So it was very much and then
• 27:49
  they would have whole group special team stuff at times too.
• 27:53
  So you won't see as much of that and spring game because it's
• 28:00
  more of a game type situation. But that's definitely something
• 28:03
  that I saw more at practice where they're they're putting
• 28:06
  more emphasis on special teams to make sure those things are
• 28:09
  right. Nice.
• 28:10
  How do you see the grills where they checked everybody's
• 28:12
  numbers? There we go, your.
• 28:15
  Back's ready to go. Yeah, and we and we still got
• 28:18
  some, you know, opposite, opposite numbers here.
• 28:22
  So there's definitely potential for that to go down.
• 28:25
  Again, let me flip back to the defense real quick because we, I
• 28:28
  know we, we were kind of curious about what the, the structure of
• 28:34
  Cephus's role kind of in practice in the, in the room
• 28:39
  also kind of where Sean Quinn is kind of fitting in with, with
• 28:45
  some of the other coaches that have been brought on.
• 28:47
  What was that dynamic like? You can talk at a high level
• 28:50
  about it. I'm just trying to trying to
• 28:52
  curious how that played out in in a practice environment.
• 28:59
  It's, I think it's kind of a fluid situation right now, to be
• 29:04
  honest. I, I know each one of them has
• 29:06
  their positions and they have certain specialties.
• 29:09
  I think that they're, they're working with for certain things,
• 29:13
  but I think there's some fluidity to learning the entire
• 29:17
  defense as a process. And I, I think part of that
• 29:21
  helped a little, little cameo there by the wife.
• 29:26
  Hey. Ankle.
• 29:32
  So I think, I think part of that, I mean their positions are
• 29:36
  defined and what they are, but I think they're still trying to
• 29:39
  find that identity of matching the personnel to some of the
• 29:44
  things that they want to do, some of the things that they
• 29:46
  move around and, and just seeing how certain things fit.
• 29:54
  I spent, I spent time with obviously in in the, the overall
• 30:00
  defensive scheme. I spent time listening to some
• 30:03
  linebacker stuff. I spent time listening to some,
• 30:06
  well, inside linebacker stuff with Coach DV and then some
• 30:10
  safety stuff with Coach Prelude. And it's it's still, I think, I
• 30:22
  think they're using the spring to sort some things out and
• 30:25
  figure out where their strengths are, what fits best for the
• 30:30
  personnel and things like that. And it'll be a little more
• 30:33
  defined when it comes to the to camp time.
• 30:40
  So it was kind of hard to say, but that they're all very
• 30:43
  involved on teaching the the basics of what they're looking
• 30:48
  for out of the defense. And they're all, they're all
• 30:52
  working together and making sure that each of their guys with
• 30:56
  their position group knows exactly where they fit in the
• 31:00
  overall scheme of things. And I think that's kind of where
• 31:04
  it is right now. And as camp goes on and things
• 31:08
  like that, I think they'll define it a little more.
• 31:12
  They'll really figure out who's got to, who's got to work with
• 31:16
  what and who's got to teach what and things of that nature.
• 31:20
  I know that probably doesn't give you a whole lot, but it's
• 31:23
  kind of where it is. And I.
• 31:27
  Like I said, I'm just trying to like, you know, there's there
• 31:29
  seems to be overlap with, you know, Quinn's role as outside
• 31:33
  linebackers. You got Jenny Wilson's role with
• 31:37
  edges and then you've got Whitehead with Nichols.
• 31:39
  And I feel like those three at any given moment could really be
• 31:44
  anywhere touch the other one, right?
• 31:46
  So especially in this new scheme.
• 31:48
  Well, you heard today, I don't know if you heard IBM, by the
• 31:52
  way, Isaiah Brown, Murray and and the ECU got, he was talking
• 31:56
  about how it's, it's fluid, like he's working with Whitehead and
• 32:00
  he's in Jones and a couple times he's been with Prelude.
• 32:03
  He said that aloud and he said because he's primarily nickel,
• 32:07
  but in some cases it makes more sense to him to go with the
• 32:09
  corners. In some cases it makes him to
• 32:11
  stay with the nickel guy. In some cases it makes him to go
• 32:13
  with Prelude. So clearly that's happening in
• 32:17
  some way, shape or form. All right, let me let me close
• 32:19
  this segment out before we get into all of the, the positions
• 32:23
  you had. Definitely you had multiple
• 32:26
  speakers, but two were high profile, I mean high, high
• 32:29
  profile, Bruce Ariens, Super Bowl winning coach and you had
• 32:35
  Darrell Tapp, the current coach of your Washington team.
• 32:38
  I ain't going to take the manager because they're always
• 32:40
  the Redskins. Did you get to interact with
• 32:42
  them any? Did you get to talk with them?
• 32:44
  Any one on ones? Anything like that?
• 32:47
  I I didn't, I didn't carry, I didn't carry a conversation with
• 32:50
  Bruce Ariens. OK.
• 32:52
  He, he had he, he had more than enough people to carry
• 32:55
  conversations with as he was, as he was very popular.
• 32:59
  You know, I, I spoke to him, I shook his hand.
• 33:02
  I, I thank him for, for just coming up to, to speak with,
• 33:07
  with all of us. He, he is as advertised voice.
• 33:13
  He, he's got a he's got a little swagger to him.
• 33:16
  He's got a aura to him, you know, and, and his thing is he,
• 33:24
  he, he love, he loves his players, he loves his, his
• 33:27
  teams, he cares about people and he cares about doing things the
• 33:33
  right way, you know, loving the guys, treating people the right
• 33:37
  way, but doing things the right way.
• 33:40
  And part of me caring, a part of him caring about his players and
• 33:44
  caring about his people is being willing to tell them when
• 33:47
  they're not doing things the right way.
• 33:50
  And that that was a lot of what his speech and what he talked
• 33:52
  about was his exact words was his job every year is to get 90
• 33:59
  dudes and in six weeks fire half of them.
• 34:06
  And to be honest with you, he goes to be, to have 90 folks and
• 34:11
  then six weeks later fire half of them and they still talk to
• 34:14
  you. He goes, you have to do it a
• 34:17
  certain way. And that kind of stuck.
• 34:20
  I don't get to fire none of mine.
• 34:22
  But you know, you, you treat people a certain way.
• 34:26
  And I didn't know what I like. One of the guys, the guy that
• 34:29
  introduced him had talked, talked to us.
• 34:32
  One of the stories he told us about Coach Ariens as a as a
• 34:38
  athlete at Virginia Tech, he was the and I, I could mess this up
• 34:42
  a little bit. He was the first Virginia Tech
• 34:45
  athlete to have an African American roommate.
• 34:49
  I. Think.
• 34:51
  That's right and. It was it was, it was Tiki and
• 34:54
  Ronde's dad. Ronde Barber's dad.
• 34:56
  Yeah. He said, he said we're going to
• 34:59
  let it slide, that he's a really good friend of mine and those
• 35:02
  two boys went somewhere else. I thought that was pretty cool
• 35:07
  just to to understand the concept of where he's coming
• 35:10
  from with the with the inclusion of things and stuff like that.
• 35:15
  So Bruce Arians was absolutely as advertised.
• 35:19
  I got to I got to talk to to coach tap a little bit more
• 35:25
  Coach Tap and I have a have a mutual player that both of us
• 35:29
  have coached and we got to talk a little bit about that.
• 35:33
  Cantavia St. He plays for the Atlanta Falcons
• 35:36
  now. He played for Coach Tapp when he
• 35:39
  was at San Francisco and Coach Tapp had great things to say
• 35:45
  about Kentavious. Kentavious has always had great
• 35:48
  things to say about Coach Tapp and it was he sucked.
• 35:52
  Coach Daryl Tapp is such a down to earth, personable guy.
• 35:56
  Like, he took time out to have a conversation with me to ask me
• 36:00
  how Kentavious was doing, you know, things like that.
• 36:04
  Just to just to be able to interact with somebody like
• 36:09
  normal, normal people that they'd meet a player, a former
• 36:14
  player, an NFL coach, you know, somebody of that caliber.
• 36:19
  A lot of people immediately think, well, he's going to be
• 36:22
  kind of standoffish. And, you know, he's he, he's at
• 36:27
  a different level. He's not that.
• 36:29
  He's not that dude. Like he was there and talked to
• 36:32
  me for a while. His wife was at the clinic.
• 36:35
  She sat right beside me. her and I talked before, before he
• 36:41
  presented. She sat there and listened to
• 36:43
  all the other coaches talk and was taking notes because I guess
• 36:46
  she's coaching wherever they're wherever they live.
• 36:50
  She does some coaching and she was looking for anything that
• 36:53
  she could use in in in her coaching manners.
• 36:57
  So I mean, they were, they were awesome, awesome pair to meet
• 37:02
  and we got to sit down and talk to him a little bit more.
• 37:06
  Coach Woteki and I, which is my head coach, we've been working
• 37:09
  together for a while. He coached Contagious too.
• 37:12
  Coach Tapwood would joke with us and and carry on.
• 37:15
  So it was it was pretty cool to have that kind of interaction
• 37:20
  with him. And they were both there when we
• 37:24
  got there that afternoon for the first day, they spoke, they did
• 37:28
  their things. They were there with everybody
• 37:30
  for dinner. They were that back there the
• 37:33
  next day for practice and everything.
• 37:35
  Coach Ariens and Coach Tapp and all of them were were out there
• 37:38
  at practice talking to players, moving around.
• 37:41
  I mean, it just I've been to clinics where people speak and
• 37:45
  then they're immediately out the door and gone.
• 37:49
  But both of them have a little more buy into the thing as they
• 37:52
  but they're both been part of this team for they're, you know.
• 37:56
  All their lives. Since the 70s.
• 37:59
  Oh yeah, so, and I mean, Tap is one of the he's.
• 38:02
  One of our guys, dude. Carrier man.
• 38:05
  It was that guy. I mean, yeah, that's that's one
• 38:08
  of our, we always talk about it because we had the chance to
• 38:10
  interview him years ago. He's one of our guys.
• 38:13
  Like our era, Daryl Tap, Xavier Devi.
• 38:17
  You got to obviously teach you some things and go over some
• 38:20
  things with you. Those two guys, it's
• 38:21
  unbelievable that you got to do that.
• 38:24
  And it's cool that to hear the story of and I'm assuming it's
• 38:28
  probably around Northern Virginia or DC where his wife is
• 38:30
  coaching whatever she's coaching.
• 38:31
  So that's pretty she. Said it was volleyball.
• 38:35
  Pretty sure she was coaching volleyball now.
• 38:38
  She's been a like a a personal trainer and run several
• 38:44
  different sports performance deals in the past.
• 38:49
  I know that from from her background and where they talked
• 38:52
  about it so, but that was cool. And then the the other speaker
• 38:57
  that they had there was was Coach Sherman, who is a head
• 39:01
  football coach at Fareham now. Wide receiver.
• 39:03
  Coach on the wide receiver, coach at Virginia Tech.
• 39:08
  I met him years ago when I was taking a couple of our kids from
• 39:11
  Halifax to Virginia Tech for recruiting.
• 39:14
  So to hear him talk about situational stuff, things like
• 39:18
  that, I got to have another kind of connection to him as our
• 39:22
  quarterback, our first quarterback from here at North
• 39:24
  Wilkes High School as quarterback at Fareham.
• 39:27
  Now he was a starting quarterback last year at
• 39:30
  Fareham. So he's Coach Sherman starting
• 39:32
  quarterback. He was our starting quarterback
• 39:34
  here. So it was it was good to hear
• 39:36
  him. And again, he has that that
• 39:40
  Virginia Tech tie to it. And then the, the last guy that
• 39:47
  spoke on Saturday morning was the defensive coordinator for
• 39:50
  the University of Richmond, Justin Wood.
• 39:54
  And he did a, he gave a phenomenal presentation on
• 39:57
  inside linebackers that I'm really trying to use a lot of
• 40:02
  the things that he taught to help give my linebackers some
• 40:06
  good basic knowledge and things. So I mean, All in all, the whole
• 40:10
  thing was, was for me very successful.
• 40:14
  I probably got more out of this clinic than I've gotten out of
• 40:16
  one in years. OK, in those things, so.
• 40:20
  That's great. That is awesome.
• 40:22
  Man, I know you. You know, you talk about Tap and
• 40:24
  like every time we've interacted with Tap, he's like
• 40:26
  simultaneously the most laid back guy, but like also so
• 40:30
  energetic. Yes, you can tell he's got
• 40:32
  passion about it. Yeah, I'm.
• 40:35
  So. Fascinated about it?
• 40:36
  Was was Aryans rocking the kangle?
• 40:39
  Yes, absolutely personalized. Personally, it had.
• 40:43
  It had, what did it say, Virginia Tech class of 1974,
• 40:48
  whatever quarterback. And then on the other side, it
• 40:53
  said it had a like the Kangol with a, with a headset on it,
• 40:57
  like for a coaching thing. And it had some other things on
• 41:00
  it. It was awesome.
• 41:01
  I mean, he was decked out, dude. He had completely personalized
• 41:05
  either Jordans or Air Force Ones or Dunks.
• 41:10
  They were orange and maroon and white.
• 41:12
  Had who? And on the back they had BA on
• 41:15
  them and they were awesome. Oh, everybody was.
• 41:19
  He was ready. He he came.
• 41:20
  He came prepared. He knew the assignment.
• 41:22
  He knew the assignment. All righty well, boys, let's
• 41:26
  turn it up here. Robbie, thanks for that little
• 41:28
  insight. And and and in the past you've
• 41:32
  given us more, but I think with what has been said behind closed
• 41:35
  doors and everything, not as much inside as previous, but I
• 41:38
  think. We're we're saying that now.
• 41:42
  With respect to with respect to their staff and allowing us to
• 41:45
  come and see those things. I saw some things that, you
• 41:51
  know, I, I think there would be great to talk about, but they're
• 41:57
  going they're going to be talked about within in time.
• 42:01
  Got you. They're they want to, they want
• 42:04
  to keep things close and really teach things and let it be.
• 42:08
  You're going to see some stuff this week, the spring game,
• 42:11
  you're going to see some stuff more as camp goes on and things
• 42:15
  like that. It's just inevitable.
• 42:17
  But I think it's going to be seeing what he's done in the
• 42:22
  past with the Cardinals, seeing what he's done in the past at
• 42:26
  Wofford and kind of my thoughts of putting some of those things
• 42:29
  together. I think it's going to be good,
• 42:32
  especially with some of the things that I saw the other day.
• 42:36
  And it's, it's definitely going to be a, a difference in what
• 42:45
  you've you're used to seeing, but in, in a good way, I think.
• 42:50
  I think it'll be good for to have some change to, to see some
• 42:54
  different things and especially the way it's going to be taught
• 42:57
  and built and, and have a good foundation behind it.
• 43:00
  Yeah. I mean, this is really kind of
• 43:02
  the 1st wholesale defensive scheme change since Bud kind of,
• 43:09
  you know, changed his philosophy kind of midstream there in the
• 43:12
  late. 90s, yeah. We just say 92.
• 43:14
  Yeah. Before, what was it?
• 43:16
  The the guy from Rutgers got hired and basically said 92 when
• 43:20
  we were like, yeah, we were not 8292.
• 43:25
  All right, but let's flip, let's get to the spring game preview.
• 43:28
  Let's start talking about some of these positions.
• 43:30
  What we're expecting to see. Brian will be there.
• 43:32
  Rob, are you driving back down or are you staying home next
• 43:35
  Saturday this. Saturday I'll be I'll be doing
• 43:39
  some family things on Saturday. No worries.
• 43:42
  Man but I don't get this one will be televised.
• 43:45
  Will it not live? I think they're going to show
• 43:49
  highlights and clips. It's not going to be a full
• 43:53
  broadcast like it was last time, so.
• 43:55
  Brian can't get too drunk and he's got to pay attention.
• 44:00
  But let's talk about quarterback room.
• 44:02
  It's really funny on the cruise Wednesday night after we had
• 44:06
  both had very good nights at this new Thursday night.
• 44:08
  No Tuesday night what night was we sat down in the at the
• 44:11
  midnight breakfast or midnight buffet.
• 44:13
  We were eating after good nights and gambling.
• 44:15
  We said no, what? After midnight breakfast.
• 44:18
  Oh dude, they had a Baked Alaska one night for dinner.
• 44:21
  They did. They did.
• 44:22
  Take me right back to those 7 college years.
• 44:27
  Alaska in seven years. But The funny thing is, me and
• 44:31
  Brian were sitting there. Brian we're scarfing down pizza
• 44:34
  and hot dogs. We're we're eating terrible, but
• 44:36
  it was a good night. And I said, well, Brian, we we
• 44:39
  don't really need to talk about the quarterbacks.
• 44:41
  What do we need to talk about? Well, until we get back and
• 44:44
  literally Karen Drones is out. So now we must talk about the
• 44:48
  quarterbacks. And I want to ask this to both
• 44:50
  of y'all. Pop's going to get his chance
• 44:51
  with the ones get his chance in the new system.
• 44:55
  Do y'all think it's any possibility of a Wallypip
• 44:57
  situation? Brian Siegler.
• 44:59
  If it is, we're going to call it a Wallypop, right?
• 45:04
  Anyway, jokes aside, dad jokes for days, man.
• 45:07
  Let me keep let me keep them out of here right now.
• 45:09
  I don't think so. I think mainly because I don't
• 45:13
  think that what we're looking at is Kyra going to be out for a
• 45:17
  significant amount of time. If if if you talked about this
• 45:20
  carrying over into the fall, there's there's some question
• 45:24
  marks there whether that would be the situation because a lot
• 45:28
  of times if you start the season, you ride the hot hand,
• 45:30
  you can get into that situation, right.
• 45:32
  But I don't think this is going to carry over into the fall.
• 45:35
  So I don't think we're ever going to really get into that
• 45:38
  type of situation unless something, you know, God forbid
• 45:41
  goes, goes wrong with the recovery process, right?
• 45:45
  Yeah. So that that's really my only
• 45:47
  concern. But, you know, by all accounts,
• 45:50
  this isn't going to carry into, yeah, may not even carry in much
• 45:54
  into summer workouts, summer workouts, let alone, you know,
• 45:58
  all the way into fall camp. I kind of feel like, like we, we
• 46:03
  saw drones do some things when we were there.
• 46:08
  He participated in, in practices and stuff and we were there.
• 46:12
  I think more of this is they got he, he, I talked earlier about
• 46:18
  the luck and all of that. He had some of the worst luck of
• 46:21
  all of them. They were talking about some of
• 46:23
  the injuries and stuff he dealt with last year and all that.
• 46:26
  I think a lot of this is we, we, we got some good work in.
• 46:32
  We got you to understand the base of a lot of things that's
• 46:34
  going on now. We need you to maintain health,
• 46:40
  what you've learned and mentally get that stuff in, take care of
• 46:44
  your body and be ready to go when we need you in camp.
• 46:49
  And I think I think that's a lot had a lot to do with it.
• 46:54
  In my opinion, he's probably got a few things he he may still
• 47:00
  need to clean up or or get checked out and get cleared with
• 47:04
  and everything you know from last season.
• 47:09
  But I I think this is just a kind of a, a make.
• 47:13
  We do it as high school coaches. You get your older guys, you
• 47:18
  know, you really want to get your older guys in the beginning
• 47:24
  to get their knowledge, get their base, get their work in
• 47:27
  and then give the younger guys an opportunity to show what they
• 47:29
  can do to, to kind of step in and do things.
• 47:32
  And I think it's a very similar situation here.
• 47:35
  It's not taking the risks, not taking chances of him, you know,
• 47:39
  getting hurt. He's he's got a couple of years
• 47:41
  on him. You want to, you know, to
• 47:44
  maintain as much tread as you can.
• 47:46
  Yep. And see what else you got behind
• 47:48
  it, because you never know what what luck's going to bring.
• 47:51
  Like he did last year? Yeah.
• 47:54
  I'm I'm with a bar here. Just get him healthy.
• 47:58
  I think what this does, if anything, it solidifies Pop's
• 48:01
  role as the backup. And he showed last year he could
• 48:03
  be put in situations and they could have chances and games.
• 48:07
  And I know everybody will that and that's what you want.
• 48:10
  It's a. Viable option.
• 48:11
  Exactly, if something happens weird like he needs to literally
• 48:14
  sit a week like he should have at Clemson last year, you.
• 48:18
  You like get more work with in there and then like two young
• 48:21
  guys or three really that they can really they really need to
• 48:26
  get. Who's OK?
• 48:28
  Who'd you? Who do you like?
• 48:29
  Out of those three? Who who can?
• 48:30
  Who can gain the most? Because now it's basically you
• 48:34
  got pop pop probably going to play maybe 1/4 Saturday with the
• 48:37
  ones. Then it's the next three young
• 48:40
  guys who's got the most to gain or who do you like the most out
• 48:43
  of those 3? I, I I know the.
• 48:49
  Bias to to. There's, there's a, there's a
• 48:51
  good amount of bias on everyone in this, this camera shot.
• 48:55
  Here, But I mean physically watching him do some things
• 49:00
  there the other day, he looks good.
• 49:03
  I knew he can play. I've known his dad for years.
• 49:06
  Somebody AJ Brand. Everybody.
• 49:10
  I've watched the kid play since he was a young kid.
• 49:13
  I've seen him play different things, basketball, football.
• 49:17
  He's an athlete. And I, I definitely think it's
• 49:23
  a, it's a whole new process coming from high school into
• 49:26
  college. The fact that he's already there
• 49:30
  helps him. He get the system that he
• 49:34
  learned through high school is going to help him.
• 49:39
  And I think he's, you're going to see some flashes of good
• 49:43
  things physically. I mean, he's well built, like
• 49:48
  standing beside drones at different times.
• 49:50
  And it was, you know, you take the jersey numbers off of them,
• 49:55
  they put their helmets on. It's kind of hard to see a
• 49:58
  difference in in them for so much.
• 50:01
  Physically, they're very, very similar.
• 50:06
  Well, I feel like I feel like when we look at them like brands
• 50:09
  very much in the drones bowl and you know, talking about another
• 50:13
  1 Kelvin Ryan very much looks like a a a taller, slightly
• 50:16
  heavier pop Watson as far as the weight.
• 50:19
  Good possibility, yeah. And even even the bill for kid
• 50:25
  moves around and does some things.
• 50:27
  I feel very similar to what Watson did when he first got to
• 50:31
  tattoo. He he is definitely not the the
• 50:37
  large physical specimen that that Bran and drones are.
• 50:43
  He he's on the smaller side. But I mean, he's a shifty.
• 50:46
  He's shifty quick. Don't let don't let the smaller
• 50:50
  fool you, because with the with the strength and conditioning
• 50:53
  program, it'll get him up. I mean, Oh yeah, Pop says he's
• 50:57
  at 205 now, and he says he's gained like 6 lbs since Ferg
• 51:02
  took over. So that's.
• 51:04
  I mean, oh, that interview. Oh, well, you he, he's thick.
• 51:10
  He is now he's 511. He's 205.
• 51:13
  He is thick. Brian, me and you have said for
• 51:16
  the last three years, what's the one worry about Pop?
• 51:18
  He ain't going to be able to just take punishment after
• 51:21
  punishment. I don't feel that way anymore.
• 51:22
  I don't feel that way anymore. Noticeably bigger from last
• 51:27
  year. Who's who'd you see as far as
• 51:32
  the throwing? Like who?
• 51:34
  Who was slinging it the most out of those younger guys?
• 51:43
  All of them got that, got good opportunities to throw balls and
• 51:46
  to put and to throw. But for what I can remember,
• 51:50
  they didn't throw anything really deep.
• 51:54
  They get a lot they get a lot of one-on-one type stuff and yoland
• 52:00
  one on ones, red zone type, one on ones, stuff like that.
• 52:04
  With quarterbacks, they were doing a lot of a lot of short
• 52:09
  yardage type stuff, you know, quick game type stuff.
• 52:14
  But I, I feel like all of them were pretty accurate.
• 52:20
  Belfort had to move a little bit more simply because he had to
• 52:24
  find windows to kind of throw through.
• 52:28
  Watson has the arm strength and the and the the mechanics to
• 52:34
  kind of get the ball where he needs to without having to move
• 52:38
  around too much where the other the other two or three kind of
• 52:43
  have a little bit more size that they don't have to move, but
• 52:48
  they can. And it's really interesting to
• 52:52
  see just how they break up the number of reps and things with
• 52:56
  this spring game to just kind of, you know, everybody's going
• 53:00
  to be looking at, yeah, drones isn't going to play.
• 53:04
  How many is Pop going to get with the ones?
• 53:08
  Because obviously he's going to he's your first guy to go with
• 53:10
  the ones And if anybody else gets any kind of reps with the
• 53:15
  ones, which one's it going to be of those three it's.
• 53:18
  Going to be interesting to see. That which one of those 3 is
• 53:21
  trotting out there opposite of Pop with the twos that they
• 53:27
  obviously see as the the next guy there.
• 53:31
  You know, there's always going to be some speculation and one
• 53:34
  may come out there with that group and then we find out later
• 53:38
  that they felt a lot better about the other one.
• 53:41
  Yeah, you just always have, I think the interesting.
• 53:44
  Piece. It'll tell you some things
• 53:45
  depending on who gets more reps where.
• 53:48
  I think the interesting piece if you look at all three of those
• 53:50
  guys that the freshman and I know Davi's been here a year,
• 53:54
  but if you look at their high school senior in high school,
• 53:57
  they all threw almost all threw at 2500 yards all threw well
• 54:01
  above 25 plus touchdowns all threw well below, you know, in
• 54:06
  well low interception numbers. So to me that has been the
• 54:11
  evolution of just the high school to college quarterbacks
• 54:14
  nowadays is years ago, if a if a guy got 10 attempts a game could
• 54:20
  be a good pass, but that was it because of what the offensive
• 54:23
  were were changed now where all these guys got over 200 plus
• 54:28
  attempts over 2500 yards over 25 touchdowns passes, which just
• 54:33
  shows you the change in the game, which is obviously why
• 54:36
  you've got guys who can be sophomores take over the reins
• 54:39
  of a college program and run it for two to three years because
• 54:42
  because the passing is is evolutionized.
• 54:45
  All right, let's flip to the big one, because this is the one
• 54:51
  that I think is going to hinge. I think it hinges Brent Price
• 54:54
  future at Virginia Tech. I see offensive line.
• 54:57
  Obviously Matt Moore's in and I think straight up Brian, we've
• 55:00
  said it Thomas remack for all discussion point.
• 55:04
  He's locked. He is playing somewhere on the
• 55:06
  offensive line. Don't know where yet, but we
• 55:09
  know where he's playing. Brian, they what?
• 55:13
  Right. Huh.
• 55:14
  He's 55, right? 20 transfers from.
• 55:18
  Yeah, West. Virginia, West Virginia 55, that
• 55:21
  is him 66317. All right.
• 55:24
  But let me ask, let me pivot to you, Brian, on this.
• 55:27
  Of the two other transfers, Lucas Austin, Kyle Luttner, who
• 55:31
  do you got? Who do you like?
• 55:33
  You're sitting here saying I got to see something from him
• 55:35
  Saturday or my confidence is going to potentially go down on
• 55:38
  the offensive line. Which of those two?
• 55:41
  Al Tuner, just because he's playing the world position, he's
• 55:44
  probably going to be the guy that's going to have to be 1 of
• 55:47
  the starters in this group, in my opinion.
• 55:51
  I I think, you know, you're looking at him probably at
• 55:53
  center and if it's not center, he's probably going to be
• 55:59
  playing one of the guard spots there.
• 56:00
  So he's the guy that you're going to need to see something
• 56:03
  from pretty early I think in this game to start having some
• 56:08
  confidence about this offensive line turning the turn to the
• 56:11
  table. Because I think I think we feel
• 56:14
  good about what what Remack can do.
• 56:18
  You know, whether it's right or left in the in the tackle slot
• 56:23
  there looks like he is going to be slotted in at one of the
• 56:24
  tackle spots. Whether he's on the left, it's
• 56:28
  either going to be him or Johnny on one side or the other.
• 56:30
  So I think Altooner's definitely the guy that, you know, if
• 56:35
  you're going to see the rest of that line kind of flesh out,
• 56:38
  he's the guy that needs to, you got to feel confident about him,
• 56:41
  especially at that center position.
• 56:44
  All tuners, another one from West Virginia if I remember
• 56:48
  correctly. He's got experience playing all
• 56:51
  three of the interior positions right?
• 56:53
  Both guards and center. Yeah.
• 56:56
  That, that's to me as a coach, that's huge.
• 57:01
  To have a guy that can play multiple positions like that, it
• 57:07
  is awesome. Especially as young as the, I
• 57:10
  mean, just a red shirt freshman. But he had some, you know, he
• 57:13
  saw some action, yeah, you know, last year and was was pretty
• 57:20
  successful in, in, in kind of limited, limited action there.
• 57:23
  And you're definitely a guy that I think Matt Moore thought a
• 57:26
  whole lot of yeah, before he got, you know, before he got
• 57:30
  injured last year. 100% All right, what?
• 57:33
  What about the current guys? Don't let's take the transfers
• 57:36
  out. What guys?
• 57:37
  Guys that they have returning that played some significant
• 57:41
  time all. Right, So significant time last
• 57:44
  year. You have the following and I'll
• 57:47
  pivot to Ganam, Bob Shit, Brody Meadows, Johnny Garrett are the
• 57:54
  four that had significant snaps. Montavious Cunningham had some
• 57:59
  snaps, not as many. So you have five guys with
• 58:02
  significant experience. What which one of those guys to
• 58:05
  you, Robbie, you feel like that guy's got to pop Saturday, that
• 58:09
  guy. I want to see something.
• 58:10
  So again, it starts alleviating like it's going to be like it
• 58:14
  was at times last year. Like Brian was talking about
• 58:18
  before, you've got, you've got alter, they're coming in, he's
• 58:23
  got it. He's got to fill one of those
• 58:24
  three spots. Then you've got a guy that
• 58:27
  played a lot in, in shit who could step into the guard spot
• 58:33
  that could help. I mean, he, he's got game
• 58:35
  experience, how fast he picks up what they're doing.
• 58:39
  I think, I think it could fit in there.
• 58:42
  I think by the end of last year they were they had Cunningham
• 58:47
  playing some guard stuff. He he would have now experience
• 58:53
  at guard and tackle which makes him a little more valuable in a
• 58:57
  lot of things. And then was in Meadows and.
• 59:04
  Garrett Garrett in Ganon, he. Was going to have to take that
• 59:08
  other tackle spot if we think Reback is the is one of the
• 59:12
  tackles. So I mean, I would, I would say
• 59:20
  Meadows and Garrett and and Cunningham and Schick have to
• 59:27
  fill in the remaining guard and tackle spot there somewhere.
• 59:32
  And if Altuner goes to to center, then you may be needing
• 59:36
  2 guards there. So I mean, I think it's AI think
• 59:42
  it's a decent crowd to be able to kind of work with and and put
• 59:46
  things in. I know in in the bowl game and
• 59:51
  towards the end of last year was it got Nina.
• 59:55
  Yeah. He got a, he got a good bit of
• 59:58
  playing time towards the end and, and things like that.
• 1:00:01
  I'm, I think he's back. I mean, they've got, they've got
• 1:00:05
  some options there of guys that have some experience in multiple
• 1:00:09
  positions. Which is Brian and I both know
• 1:00:12
  was huge on the offensive line. You got a guy that you know can
• 1:00:15
  play multiple positions. It makes you feel a lot better
• 1:00:19
  about things. Yeah.
• 1:00:21
  I mean, you feel like you can offensive line, you're at some
• 1:00:25
  point you're going to have one or two injuries pop up
• 1:00:27
  throughout the year where you're going to have to lean on one or
• 1:00:30
  two guys. And if you got guys that can
• 1:00:32
  play multiple positions, you can keep your best five out there
• 1:00:36
  remaining without having to to shuffle too much, whether that's
• 1:00:41
  having a frontline guy slide from a guard to a tackle or
• 1:00:44
  whether that's a guy that's playing a reserve role that can
• 1:00:47
  plug in at guard or tackle, depending on who goes down.
• 1:00:51
  And really, you know, center being the the biggest wild card
• 1:00:54
  there because you know, you, you generally get only going to have
• 1:00:58
  two to three guys on your roster that you feel really comfortable
• 1:01:01
  with snapping the football. And so that's usually where
• 1:01:04
  you're going to be the tightest. Another thing to look at which
• 1:01:07
  you really have, we really haven't had a lot to talk about
• 1:01:10
  in the last couple years with offensive line is there's
• 1:01:14
  there's a young guy or two there that have have come in, you
• 1:01:18
  know, recruit wise that I I think just by seeing him by him,
• 1:01:24
  I would say walking by me, but kind of towering over and the
• 1:01:28
  clip and everything that he walked by when he walked by me.
• 1:01:32
  The The star kid is a large piece of human being that's.
• 1:01:38
  A big boy. That is a big boy.
• 1:01:40
  Yeah. And you know, development, I
• 1:01:46
  think obviously as we've seen with the guys that came over
• 1:01:50
  from West Virginia, they're younger players that have
• 1:01:53
  already developed into something that we like and that we think
• 1:01:56
  can play. I feel good about how more can
• 1:02:00
  develop younger guys that are there and and be able to recruit
• 1:02:04
  some guys that he can develop into into into well-rounded
• 1:02:08
  players for his system. So we got that too and I'm I'm
• 1:02:12
  excited about cause called Garnet.
• 1:02:15
  That boy was big, yeah. Yeah, listen, y'all mentioned
• 1:02:19
  all the names and who we're going to see and whatnot.
• 1:02:22
  What I just want to see is I want the interior to be good
• 1:02:27
  because I think there's been too many years.
• 1:02:29
  The last, it feels like the last 15 years where third and two
• 1:02:34
  there was a struggle to get 2 yards.
• 1:02:37
  I want the best interior. And if it's altooner at center,
• 1:02:42
  I kind of sit here and hope because you know, you see the
• 1:02:44
  way Brody Meadows plays, he plays all out, he goes through
• 1:02:48
  the whistle, he drives guys away.
• 1:02:50
  And I, and I'm hoping he and Cunningham can win those two
• 1:02:55
  spots because I feel like looking at them that they are
• 1:02:58
  the most physical presence on the inside.
• 1:03:01
  And I think that would help the short yardage that it feels like
• 1:03:04
  we just could not gain unless it's like Kyron drones or Logan
• 1:03:09
  Thomas 32 guys, just stick your head in there and just run
• 1:03:11
  straight ahead because that's all we got.
• 1:03:13
  We don't have any concept to actually block and get positive
• 1:03:17
  yards on short yards place. Yeah, and I'm interested to see
• 1:03:20
  if if Gannon takes a step this year because I mean, he started
• 1:03:23
  last year, was injured pretty early and didn't really get a
• 1:03:26
  chance to kind of really show what he could do.
• 1:03:31
  You know, the fact that he kind of was a new face on the line,
• 1:03:34
  kind of won that spot, kept kept shick off the field for a little
• 1:03:39
  bit there that that tells you that he's he, you know, they
• 1:03:42
  showed a little bit of confidence in him last year.
• 1:03:44
  I'm hoping that that carries over and you know, he's he gets
• 1:03:47
  healthy and takes some big steps this year.
• 1:03:51
  It's true. And look at the West Virginia
• 1:03:53
  kid that Matt Moore did try to get.
• 1:03:56
  Yeah, so I did. Try to get.
• 1:03:58
  I think he's a guy that would be, you know, in a in a good
• 1:04:00
  line there and then, you know, centre, like I've already talked
• 1:04:04
  about Altuner, but you know, Robbie, you brought up Neda and
• 1:04:08
  then we also have Tommy Ricard in there that, you know, you
• 1:04:12
  know, could be fighting for that spot there.
• 1:04:14
  So we got, you have three guys that you know, you don't
• 1:04:17
  necessarily feel good about. You got one guy that you you're
• 1:04:20
  hoping is going to be the truth and you got a couple other guys
• 1:04:23
  you're like, all right, if they can, they can develop a little
• 1:04:26
  bit. Maybe those those guys could be
• 1:04:28
  in the mix as well. It'll be another one of those
• 1:04:31
  situations just like we talked about at quarterback.
• 1:04:33
  It's just seeing who that first group is and how they work
• 1:04:38
  together and then seeing what their thought process is of who
• 1:04:42
  comes in next or who goes in with that second group.
• 1:04:45
  And just, you know, trying to piece it together and, and see
• 1:04:50
  do do they have a group that they they take out with the ones
• 1:04:54
  to protect when they know they have to and then they have a
• 1:04:58
  group with the twos? Or do they have a group that
• 1:05:01
  they go out first and then they start pulling one guy and
• 1:05:04
  putting another guy in to see how that group works together.
• 1:05:08
  Just this thought process on that will give you in my mind,
• 1:05:12
  will give you more of an idea of, OK, these are the guys and
• 1:05:15
  these are the guys he's developing and then we can use
• 1:05:18
  or if, hey, we're going to find the Best Buy.
• 1:05:22
  It might be taking this guy out, putting this guy in or moving
• 1:05:26
  this guy over here and putting one in here, that kind of thing.
• 1:05:29
  I think that's going to be a telling story of what you're
• 1:05:32
  seeing, too. Yeah, Robbie and you, you know,
• 1:05:34
  from experience, man, there's, there's the best 5 talent and
• 1:05:40
  then there's the best 5 as a unit.
• 1:05:42
  And those are two different things.
• 1:05:43
  Sometimes. Always.
• 1:05:44
  Is. Always is.
• 1:05:46
  All right, let's flip over. Let's go to the outside and to
• 1:05:49
  the other two. Two of the skill positions.
• 1:05:51
  Brian. Oh, no, yeah, Brian.
• 1:05:54
  Skill position wise, wide receiver, tight ends, who are
• 1:05:57
  you focused on the most? Like you're going to be sitting
• 1:05:59
  in lane and obviously you don't look at quarterback, but I know
• 1:06:04
  Brian Lee, he'll he'll watch quarterback, he'll focus line,
• 1:06:07
  then he'll look on the outside. So when you focusing on the
• 1:06:09
  outside, who you focusing on? We just talked about receiver
• 1:06:14
  group in general. I'm I'm looking at.
• 1:06:15
  Cam receiver. Tight end receiver, Yeah.
• 1:06:17
  I'm looking at, I'm looking at Cam Seldon.
• 1:06:18
  I want to see that running back in a wide receiver frame,
• 1:06:25
  hopefully channelling as much Jalen Lane as we can so we can
• 1:06:28
  keep that that train moving. But that's the that's the type
• 1:06:32
  of slot receiver that I like is a basically a running back that
• 1:06:38
  is lining up wide. The guy that has those running
• 1:06:41
  back instincts that when they get the ball in their hands,
• 1:06:45
  they have that mentality though, they're going to run by your run
• 1:06:48
  over here and sometimes in equal measure.
• 1:06:49
  How? About you Robbie, what are you
• 1:06:52
  focusing on with that group? Physically, from being there,
• 1:06:55
  from being there, watching practice and things.
• 1:06:58
  Physically, Selden, which it was #9.
• 1:07:03
  Yeah. Physically, he he has a presence
• 1:07:08
  it kind of thinking back a few years, I I go back to a game
• 1:07:14
  against South Carolina and and a gentleman who I'm sorry, Curtis,
• 1:07:20
  but is now a commander. Best for all parties.
• 1:07:25
  Devo Samuel, he kind of gives me that vibe a little bit.
• 1:07:30
  OK, I'm going to make a move. You bite on the move, I'm going
• 1:07:34
  to get yards after the catch. If you don't bite on the move
• 1:07:37
  and stand my ground, I'm going to get yards after the catch.
• 1:07:39
  You know, Do you want to take this shot or not?
• 1:07:44
  That's up to you. I feel like watching him
• 1:07:47
  physically, that's the kind of player he's going to be, which
• 1:07:50
  I'm in love with. He he he's definitely one to see
• 1:07:58
  after the after the bowl game and then watching him run at
• 1:08:03
  things at practice the other day.
• 1:08:06
  Aiden Green, if he if he gets space and gets he can break out.
• 1:08:13
  There ain't many of them catching him, bud.
• 1:08:16
  It's not a lot. I'm gonna flip it.
• 1:08:18
  Before that, boys quit. He is.
• 1:08:21
  I'm going to flip it on y'all the where I'm most interested.
• 1:08:23
  I'm going to be focused on with the highlights and probably talk
• 1:08:26
  to Brian about it. I want to see what they do with
• 1:08:28
  the Titans, especially Benji Gosnell.
• 1:08:30
  Benji Gosnell was the second leader and receiver on this team
• 1:08:34
  last year. If you look at Philip
• 1:08:35
  Montgomery's history, the most I saw was with Baylor and the
• 1:08:40
  Robert Griffin back when he won the Heisman.
• 1:08:43
  They had a guy 20 and I got 15. That's not a lot.
• 1:08:48
  Now today, Brent Davis comes out and says they're really focused
• 1:08:51
  on being physical, get the blocking concepts down.
• 1:08:54
  That's what I'm paying attention to.
• 1:08:56
  Because you go back to what they recruited at Baylor.
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  They never had that. They never had someone like
• 1:09:03
  Benji who could catch the ball. Who did ask him physicality
• 1:09:07
  does. He shifted in a way where it
• 1:09:09
  says, well, I've got one of these guys now, does he shift it
• 1:09:12
  and say I want him to block? Good.
• 1:09:15
  But I've got Nell, an extra potential weapon on the in line
• 1:09:18
  because we know Benji can go in line.
• 1:09:19
  He can go, you know he not I'm not going to say he's going to
• 1:09:23
  be in the backfield any, but he can do a variety of things.
• 1:09:26
  He'll be in the. Backfield some.
• 1:09:27
  He can be, but he will. That's OK.
• 1:09:32
  Write it down for Brian Siegler I.
• 1:09:35
  My thought is I think Gosnell is a could be a very integral part
• 1:09:42
  in what they try to do with some with the run game and not as a
• 1:09:47
  not as a back carrying things. He had some experience before
• 1:09:52
  and in that H back type role that what we call what we call
• 1:10:00
  what some people call a yo technique that offset tight end,
• 1:10:06
  you know inside between the guard and tackle sniffer.
• 1:10:10
  You know your kick out blocker, your your split zone player.
• 1:10:14
  Split zone? Yep.
• 1:10:15
  That's he has experience doing that.
• 1:10:17
  The coach that he played for his senior year in high school
• 1:10:21
  before he hurt his knee, he played some stuff like that.
• 1:10:25
  He knows that position. It's about him buying in to,
• 1:10:29
  hey, understanding you can be exceptional for us by maybe
• 1:10:35
  catching 15 balls and certain things and being this monster
• 1:10:40
  that we have doing this kick out, running this power, doing
• 1:10:44
  these things and may not be the, you know, 40 or 50 catch,
• 1:10:50
  Gronkowski, Kelsey type of thing.
• 1:10:52
  We know he can do that. We know he can be that guy, but
• 1:10:57
  will he buy into? Maybe I can do that later?
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  As long as I can show I can do this, it makes myself even more
• 1:11:04
  versatile going out. Yeah, and he's shown that what
• 1:11:07
  he can do. So I mean, I think if, if he can
• 1:11:11
  develop his tool kit where he can show he's, he's both, he's
• 1:11:15
  like, he's that true well-rounded tight end that you
• 1:11:18
  can count on to block in the running game, but you can also
• 1:11:21
  line up in the slot and have a mismatch and be able to take
• 1:11:25
  advantage of that. Absolutely.
• 1:11:26
  As a coach, when you see a kid out there working his butt off,
• 1:11:30
  doing the things you asked him to do and he's balled into doing
• 1:11:33
  the things that we've asked him to make this team better.
• 1:11:36
  A coach starts to get to, you know what I need, I need to, I
• 1:11:40
  need to give him something for the work that he's done.
• 1:11:44
  And maybe that's where it goes from 15 or 20 catches to 30,
• 1:11:48
  because he's shown his willingness to do everything
• 1:11:51
  else the right way. Like Bruce Arias talked about,
• 1:11:55
  you have to reward the people that are doing things the right
• 1:11:58
  way. You have to show them that you
• 1:12:00
  care about that stuff. Got you.
• 1:12:02
  How? He earns some of that stuff.
• 1:12:05
  Let me ask both you all this, because the one thing is with
• 1:12:08
  the Montgomery and Bryant and y'all, we talked about it
• 1:12:10
  earlier about, you know, the concepts and what you're going
• 1:12:14
  to see. And people have been searching
• 1:12:16
  Montgomery's offenses all the time.
• 1:12:18
  Do you pay attention to route concepts at a game like this or
• 1:12:21
  is it it's it's too vanilla. They're going to be doing a lot
• 1:12:23
  of basic stuff Or is it pay attention So you know, you see
• 1:12:28
  who's running because the one thing he likes to run flats, he
• 1:12:32
  likes to run drags, he likes to run stuff.
• 1:12:34
  Who's running those routes? Is it worth paying attention to?
• 1:12:37
  Or is it? Don't.
• 1:12:39
  Don't buy too much into it. Personally, I would say you look
• 1:12:43
  at the routes more than. The players running the routes
• 1:12:48
  got you. And the fact that you're going
• 1:12:51
  to the the game, you simplify the game to the point where you
• 1:12:58
  have a route tree. There's certain routes that
• 1:13:00
  every team's going to run. They're going to run the
• 1:13:03
  verticals, they're going to run the slants, they're going to run
• 1:13:05
  the post or they're going to run, you know, the digs, the
• 1:13:08
  ends, the outs, those kind of, it's in every route tree, no
• 1:13:12
  matter whether you go from from peewee football to the NFL.
• 1:13:18
  And it's how they, it's how they use those things in spacing and,
• 1:13:22
  and what they're doing with certain things, in my opinion,
• 1:13:26
  yeah. It's, it's, it's it really in
• 1:13:28
  looking at it at a in a micro level, what are the combinations
• 1:13:33
  of the routes, not necessarily what's in the tree.
• 1:13:37
  And I mean, looking at that, like, I think, I think also you
• 1:13:40
  can look at and pay attention to maybe what you don't see.
• 1:13:44
  And I know Robbie, we talked about this a little bit too,
• 1:13:47
  like I don't think we're going to see as much behind the line
• 1:13:50
  of scrimmage stuff. So I think that's something to
• 1:13:52
  look, look for and pay attention and and make sure that you don't
• 1:13:54
  see that because I don't think you're going to see as much of
• 1:13:57
  that in this offense as we saw an entire Tyler Bowen offense.
• 1:14:01
  This style of offense plays into, you know it all.
• 1:14:06
  It's always going to have a check down.
• 1:14:07
  There's going to be closer to the line of scrimmage.
• 1:14:09
  Yeah, you're going to have some screen game stuff, but it's it's
• 1:14:15
  not going to be I don't feel like you're going to personal
• 1:14:19
  opinion, knowing the off the offense as it is, you're not
• 1:14:23
  going to see as many of the pop screens to the single receiver
• 1:14:29
  and saying, hey, you got a one-on-one match up, beat him,
• 1:14:34
  you know, on the move and get four or five yards.
• 1:14:39
  I feel like this offense pushes more to get to four or five
• 1:14:43
  yards and catch the ball and then see what you can get
• 1:14:46
  afterwards. I think that's the basis of this
• 1:14:50
  offense more. It is for us.
• 1:14:54
  Our style offense is very similar to what Montgomery runs
• 1:14:58
  or has run in the past and I feel like we throw a lot of what
• 1:15:04
  we look at as quick game. We want to get routes in the
• 1:15:09
  five to seven yard range and then everything you get after
• 1:15:13
  that as a plus, but we're going to get that you're.
• 1:15:17
  Going to get you're setting yourself up for success if you
• 1:15:20
  get 5 and it's second and five that you can do anything on the
• 1:15:22
  field you want and it's still not a if.
• 1:15:27
  If if you don't hit on 2nd down, thirds is still not that far
• 1:15:31
  away. Let's go to run.
• 1:15:33
  Oh, let me say something real quick.
• 1:15:34
  We talked about Benji's catch numbers with Bowen compared to
• 1:15:40
  what we might see with Montgomery.
• 1:15:42
  I, I will say this, you know, a lot of the catches that Benji
• 1:15:47
  Benji flagged last year and, and, and just any tight end in,
• 1:15:51
  in, in that Tyler Bowen system, So many of those were those
• 1:15:55
  behind the line of scrimmage catches, those at the line of
• 1:15:58
  scrimmage catches. I, I think when you do have the
• 1:16:02
  tight end involved in the passing game, they're going to
• 1:16:04
  be more effective routes for, for the tight end, meaning that
• 1:16:12
  it's not going to be having to rely on motion to kind of get
• 1:16:17
  some, some separation, those quick catches and having to let
• 1:16:20
  them turn up and, and hopefully break a tackle to kind of get
• 1:16:23
  some action in the passing game. It's going to be a little bit
• 1:16:25
  more deliberate with how they use them in the passing game.
• 1:16:30
  Gotcha, gotcha. All right, go to running
• 1:16:33
  backroom. Stewart's not here.
• 1:16:35
  We've been told guys are banged up.
• 1:16:39
  I mean, PJ Prelude not playing Coney was hurt.
• 1:16:45
  Tyler Mason Overton's hurt. I mean, do we just take just
• 1:16:50
  grain of salt with that room? I.
• 1:16:53
  Feel like it's going to be interesting to see and, and I
• 1:16:58
  would tell you to watch this group of running backs that's
• 1:17:02
  going to get an opportunity to play OK 'cause they've got
• 1:17:05
  something. Because in my opinion, you lost
• 1:17:12
  the running back Room 0. Got you.
• 1:17:16
  Oh yeah. When you lose Tooting and you
• 1:17:19
  lose Thomas, you had you had other guys that filled in, but
• 1:17:24
  each one of them filled in in their own way.
• 1:17:27
  Tony Prelude Mason, who played more in the bowl game then then
• 1:17:34
  I really expected to see. But then you add the Stewart.
• 1:17:43
  Can you add the Hawkins kid from was it in Oklahoma?
• 1:17:48
  Somewhere out in Oklahoma. He's from Oklahoma, I think it's
• 1:17:52
  Missouri. Some D2IN.
• 1:17:53
  Missouri, yeah. Look, he was, he impressed me a
• 1:17:57
  little bit at practice the the path level and the way he runs
• 1:18:02
  the ball like he's a physical, like he runs like he hates the
• 1:18:08
  ground he's running on. Like, I mean, he, he won hard
• 1:18:13
  and physical. And I think that's interesting
• 1:18:16
  to see. Mason showed us that he can do
• 1:18:21
  some things in that spring game. I mean, in that bowl game coming
• 1:18:26
  into the spring game, he he looks to be bigger, he looks to
• 1:18:30
  be more physical. And it'll be interesting to to
• 1:18:35
  think about how when Tooting went out last year, it was
• 1:18:41
  Malachi Thomas. And then we got to hope some
• 1:18:45
  other guys can can take a couple carries and help us to now it
• 1:18:50
  seems almost like I feel like there's there could be 5 or 6 at
• 1:18:55
  some point that you could say, hey, we can put in and give 5 or
• 1:19:00
  10 carriers to and be good. So we we could be going from the
• 1:19:04
  lead back to having a running back back committee.
• 1:19:07
  Yes and yeah, I, I think. You're still going to see when
• 1:19:12
  when he gets here, Stewart kind of being the lead back, but that
• 1:19:16
  I think there's going to be there's going to be that 2A2B2,
• 1:19:22
  probably 2C behind him. I think you got AI think you got
• 1:19:25
  a crowd there. They're going to, they're going
• 1:19:28
  to have a little bit to say about, hey, if he thinks he's
• 1:19:33
  going to come in and beat the lead back, we want a little
• 1:19:36
  input on this thing on. There we go.
• 1:19:39
  And they're going to show it. That's going to make him better
• 1:19:41
  too. That's going to make the whole
• 1:19:42
  team better, so. 100% I'm, I'm, I'm, I feel good about that.
• 1:19:47
  If there, there are a lot of question marks of just how
• 1:19:50
  that's going to work, but I'm optimistic with with what I've
• 1:19:55
  seen and what's there. All right, all right, let's flip
• 1:20:00
  over. Let's talk a little bit on the
• 1:20:01
  defense and let's obviously start with the safety room.
• 1:20:06
  I mean, it's it feels loaded between the guys who were here
• 1:20:10
  last year, the transfers that came in understanding see if the
• 1:20:13
  system being 3 high. But is there anybody, Brian will
• 1:20:18
  start with you, Is there anybody to you that has to pass your eye
• 1:20:22
  test on Saturday? Anybody that's got to pass the
• 1:20:27
  eye test? I'm interested to see what Tyson
• 1:20:33
  Flowers looks like. OK.
• 1:20:38
  Because he, I think he's the guy that was the most inconsistent
• 1:20:43
  in the tape that I looked at. But when he looked good, he
• 1:20:47
  looked real good. But he was very inconsistent.
• 1:20:50
  If, if he's a guy that can come in and show that, you know, he's
• 1:20:54
  probably leveled some of that out a little bit.
• 1:20:57
  I think that'll go a long way just because we got we got a
• 1:21:00
  handful of guys, you know, between Cash coming in, you got
• 1:21:03
  obviously Reddish kind of being the, as weird as it sounds,
• 1:21:08
  elder statesman in the room from an experience standpoint it
• 1:21:12
  yeah, with this team, with this team, yeah.
• 1:21:17
  It's it's going to be interesting to see how these new
• 1:21:19
  guys work in there. But Tyson flowers to me just
• 1:21:22
  because I saw some inconsistencies and if he can
• 1:21:25
  iron some of that out, that would that would be huge for
• 1:21:27
  this room. I think Isaiah Cash is going to
• 1:21:30
  be a player. How much and how we deploy him
• 1:21:35
  is going to be what I want to see just within see because it's
• 1:21:39
  overall system. And I keep I keep looking back
• 1:21:44
  at my my roster card thing, man you.
• 1:21:46
  Need to give us that. No, tell me on.
• 1:21:49
  Saturdays I look at, I try to figure out the number because
• 1:21:52
  for me out there I was seeing numbers and numbers were the
• 1:21:56
  what what clicked to me. So I'm trying to figure out
• 1:21:57
  who's who. But while you figure I'm going
• 1:22:05
  to tell you, for me, I want to see how Quinn Reddish does in
• 1:22:07
  the system. He showed so much as a true
• 1:22:10
  freshman last year, putting into a role being put in when when
• 1:22:15
  Lil Strowman got hurt, he was forced to play.
• 1:22:18
  He was not supposed to play last year and he looked good at
• 1:22:21
  times. He laid licks.
• 1:22:23
  I want to see how a system that is designed to be to to make
• 1:22:29
  safeties the stars, because to me that's what it does, right?
• 1:22:32
  We keep saying Buddha Baker, we keep seeing other things where
• 1:22:36
  it's like the safeties are really high level of this.
• 1:22:40
  How can a kid who played like that now get put into a system?
• 1:22:43
  Where is he lining up? Because we know it could be 3
• 1:22:47
  highs. He is he still playing a strong?
• 1:22:49
  Is there another position that, you know, I would say like a
• 1:22:52
  Rover, but a lot of people said a Rover strong.
• 1:22:54
  But to me Rover was always that movable piece in the chess game,
• 1:22:58
  right? It can kind of go anywhere and
• 1:23:00
  do different things. Is he playing that or is he back
• 1:23:02
  at free? That's what I'm interested in.
• 1:23:04
  What about you? Rob I mean, it'll be like, I
• 1:23:11
  know with their system and I, I, I play a system that's somewhat
• 1:23:15
  similar to this. We run more of a AA3334 kind of
• 1:23:23
  hybrid. Look, there's times where we can
• 1:23:26
  look like we have 3 safeties. There's time.
• 1:23:30
  And technically the, the, that 3334 hybrid system is considered
• 1:23:38
  one of the the three safety defenses.
• 1:23:42
  There's a lot of times that I line up on the field and you
• 1:23:46
  have to know what you're looking at to see 3 safeties.
• 1:23:50
  I mean, that's just the way we do it.
• 1:23:52
  And my thought with kind of looking at the way they have
• 1:23:56
  things laid out where you have safeties, you have nickels, you
• 1:24:00
  have edges, you have, you know, outside linebacker, those kinds
• 1:24:05
  of the way they've kind of named things.
• 1:24:08
  I feel like you're going to see something very similar to what
• 1:24:10
  I'm thinking that we do and that sometimes, OK, you may see 3
• 1:24:16
  safeties or you may see two safeties and a nickel.
• 1:24:21
  But is he going to be is that Nicola linebacker?
• 1:24:25
  Is that Nicola safety? Is that Nicola extra corner?
• 1:24:28
  Is it, you know, that's a that's kind of an NFL type deal.
• 1:24:35
  And knowing that he comes from an NFL background last year, I I
• 1:24:42
  feel like that kind of thing is a possibility.
• 1:24:47
  So that will be saying that these guys are safeties.
• 1:24:52
  It's possible to see one of them at the time.
• 1:24:54
  I think it could be possible to see three of them.
• 1:24:58
  It just, it's going to be, it goes back to that.
• 1:25:02
  How does your personnel match up against things that you're going
• 1:25:06
  to see? And it might be fluid week to
• 1:25:08
  week, depending on what it is. But the I I definitely feel good
• 1:25:14
  about the the safety group that's there with with Reddish
• 1:25:19
  and cash, I feel like was. You said you saw Ellis out there
• 1:25:28
  some too, right #4 Ellis? What about Sherrod Koval?
• 1:25:37
  Did you see a lot of Sherrod out there?
• 1:25:39
  Tyson Flowers, 17. What about 7?
• 1:25:43
  Did you see Koval who came from Clemson?
• 1:25:47
  I did not see him, but that's that's not to say that he wasn't
• 1:25:53
  there. I just I didn't for some reason
• 1:25:57
  something didn't focus in on that.
• 1:26:03
  I feel like, OK, I, I was going to say I remember seeing #3
• 1:26:10
  which is Caleb Spencer, but he was a safety before, am I right?
• 1:26:17
  Safety before, linebacker now. Yeah, he's playing Star a lot
• 1:26:21
  last year. Yeah, played outside a lot last
• 1:26:23
  year, so hold your thoughts. On him and that, that's the
• 1:26:26
  thing, like with the way I run, with the way we run things, I
• 1:26:30
  know you're going to, you could get some confusion to say, hey,
• 1:26:34
  that kids played safety. He could, he should, he's
• 1:26:37
  safety, but they say he's a linebacker.
• 1:26:40
  Some things are going to, I think some things are going to
• 1:26:44
  kind of mix in there. So it's hard to say, but got you
• 1:26:48
  the the Johnson kids still there too, right Springs?
• 1:26:54
  Yep, he's still there as well, just a sophomore, just a
• 1:26:57
  sophomore. All right, I'm going to flip it
• 1:27:00
  to the defensive side of the room with your doppelganger over
• 1:27:02
  there and JC Price ton of production loss.
• 1:27:07
  I know you always talk to him but but but this room lost a ton
• 1:27:14
  of production inside and out. You know, APR likely going to be
• 1:27:21
  first four round pick people's picking up steam to maybe get to
• 1:27:24
  the fourth round. What concerns can't remember who
• 1:27:29
  had pitched to first last time pitched to Robbie this time.
• 1:27:32
  What concerns you more inside or outside or because it's
• 1:27:35
  changing? It doesn't.
• 1:27:38
  We don't know yet. I think that position has the
• 1:27:47
  biggest question marks to me, just because I don't know what
• 1:27:54
  their plan is. I think they have guys there
• 1:27:59
  that can be very successful in many different ways.
• 1:28:03
  OK, Laws and Copeland and Priester Burgos, you know, to
• 1:28:15
  us, those guys are the are the defensive line group that we're
• 1:28:19
  used to. But this system could be a
• 1:28:23
  little different in how they they interchange some of those
• 1:28:26
  guys. And that's going to be cool to
• 1:28:28
  see kind of how they move things around.
• 1:28:31
  Would they ask them to do, you know, as, as a guy that runs a
• 1:28:39
  lot of a lot of three man front on the defensive front, you
• 1:28:44
  always have to go to the question of are we asking these
• 1:28:47
  guys to to gap or we asking these guys to play a gap and the
• 1:28:53
  linebacker feel, you know, behind it, things like that.
• 1:28:57
  So being able to see how they position guys up front, whether
• 1:29:03
  it's Gilliam or Laws or or Copeland or Burgos and, and all
• 1:29:10
  of those different pieces, how they kind of move things around
• 1:29:14
  and what they what they ask those guys to do.
• 1:29:19
  I think once they get that set and we'll, we may see a lot more
• 1:29:23
  of that just from the spring game Saturday of what more of
• 1:29:27
  their plan is, I'd feel more comfortable in saying, OK, now I
• 1:29:31
  feel good about this group of guys, but it's just, I know
• 1:29:36
  there's dudes there. It's just what are they asking
• 1:29:40
  them to do? And I have 100% faith in the
• 1:29:44
  fact that whatever they ask them to do, the JC Price is going to
• 1:29:47
  get the best out of them that he can get and that they're going
• 1:29:50
  to produce. So that that's kind of where I
• 1:29:54
  stand with that. We can name all the guys off all
• 1:29:57
  day. What are they going to ask them
• 1:30:00
  to do and how are they going to going to step into those roles?
• 1:30:04
  I think is the biggest thing. Brian.
• 1:30:08
  Yeah, I kind of have a similar, similar take on this.
• 1:30:11
  I feel like between what we did in the portal, what we kind of
• 1:30:15
  already had coming back, I feel good about the guys we have.
• 1:30:21
  I'm interested to see how they're going to be deployed and
• 1:30:24
  what they're going to be asked to do and if those things are
• 1:30:27
  going to meld with their skill set.
• 1:30:31
  And I mean, it sounds like Cephus's whole whole deal is
• 1:30:35
  deploying the the personnel that he has in the best way possible
• 1:30:40
  to get the most out of them. So I'm confident from that
• 1:30:43
  standpoint at least, you know, from what I've heard so far.
• 1:30:47
  But you know, anytime you're shifting philosophies on
• 1:30:52
  defense, there's always going to be a little bit of growing pain
• 1:30:56
  there. And to Robbie's point, I think
• 1:30:58
  figuring out where the guys fit within what Cepkus wants to do,
• 1:31:03
  Cepkus kind of getting an understanding of what these guys
• 1:31:06
  do best and how he can best deploy them, that that's going
• 1:31:10
  to be the, the, the big thing. Because, you know, to Robbie's
• 1:31:13
  point, I think I think JC is going to get these guys, he's
• 1:31:16
  going to get these guys where they need to be.
• 1:31:19
  I think they just need to figure out, you know, who fits best
• 1:31:23
  where and what the best rotation is going to be in terms of guys
• 1:31:27
  getting matched with first line, second line, things like that.
• 1:31:31
  Because I think there's going to be, you know, obviously
• 1:31:33
  throughout a game, you're going to have a guy or two kind of
• 1:31:35
  rotate in or out. But it it's really good if you
• 1:31:37
  can kind of have that first line that works the best together and
• 1:31:41
  kind of that second line that are very complementary from a
• 1:31:44
  skill set standpoint as much as you can looking at the front.
• 1:31:48
  And, and I tell you today I listen to the Jonquim interview.
• 1:31:52
  By the way, if y'all have not seen that interview, go go
• 1:31:56
  listen to it a we're going to try everything we've.
• 1:31:59
  Yeah, we got to get him on here. Holy shit, that kids
• 1:32:04
  charismatic, well spoken kid that feels like he talked about
• 1:32:08
  anything but how he talked about going to the defensive room and
• 1:32:11
  how he he praised JC. He's like Coach Price telling me
• 1:32:15
  exactly what to do, how to do it.
• 1:32:17
  And then I do it and and it and it's so easy.
• 1:32:20
  To Brodie's point, I think JC is going to get the room right.
• 1:32:24
  It's just finding the right combos, what works right.
• 1:32:26
  Because you know, we talk, you know the thing about C because
• 1:32:29
  it's the alignment. We've seen him do everything in
• 1:32:32
  different places. We saw the videos, 2 DTS that
• 1:32:35
  look like a one tech, a three tech, 2 guys standing up at the
• 1:32:38
  ends. Are we going to see more than
• 1:32:41
  that Saturday? Are we going to see 3 lines?
• 1:32:43
  Are we going to see one down lineman, you know, over at a 0
• 1:32:47
  technique somewhere at a four? Like I'm interested to see that
• 1:32:51
  Saturday because I want to see it where he's leveraging guys
• 1:32:57
  like Jerrod Johnson, who's, you know, 63280 and like hand Chuck
• 1:33:02
  to play the four eye techniques. And then he's putting ends on
• 1:33:05
  the outside of their shoulders to say, OK, how are you going to
• 1:33:07
  defend this? These guys are quick twitch guys
• 1:33:10
  that are going to get inside your guards, but I'm going to be
• 1:33:12
  sending 2 edges to. What are you going to do about
• 1:33:16
  it? I think a lot of that comes from
• 1:33:18
  his experience with NFL guys. I think there's going to be
• 1:33:21
  packages of certain things depending on what you know, he's
• 1:33:25
  he's going to scheme up some things.
• 1:33:27
  OK, this offense wants to do this and take advantage of this.
• 1:33:31
  But we can take advantage of what they're trying to do right
• 1:33:34
  here. You know, you may see smaller
• 1:33:38
  groups of D lineman to really put rush press on from like a A3
• 1:33:44
  technique inside rather than it all being edge pressure.
• 1:33:48
  You know, you may have God laws and Priester and and and Gilliam
• 1:33:57
  in together up front, just filling holes there.
• 1:34:02
  There's so many options with the the groups of people that they
• 1:34:05
  have and just right there talking about jungle being in
• 1:34:10
  the room with JC Price and all that.
• 1:34:12
  If I'm not mistaken, didn't he he come from he's transfer in?
• 1:34:17
  Wasn't he an inside backer? Inside linebacker.
• 1:34:20
  Inside. Linebacker.
• 1:34:21
  Yeah, and we're, we're here talking about him being in the
• 1:34:24
  room with JC Price. Oh, I mean.
• 1:34:29
  It's going to be interesting to see how they deploy these guys
• 1:34:31
  because I mean, you got so many different, different
• 1:34:35
  opportunities that that you can, you can do and you know, talk
• 1:34:39
  about from a front standpoint of being multiple.
• 1:34:41
  I'm just I'm interested if we how many non nickel package
• 1:34:46
  fronts we see in the spring game or whether it's going to be, if
• 1:34:50
  it's not nickel, it's going to be a just a base kind of kind of
• 1:34:53
  245 look, you know, which is what we expect I think at this
• 1:34:57
  point. Yeah.
• 1:34:58
  At this point, you're. Right.
• 1:34:59
  I know for us when we go to our nickel packages more for us when
• 1:35:06
  you go to a nickel package, the the stand up outside backer or
• 1:35:12
  whatever, Yep, kind of becomes tag kind of attached to our
• 1:35:18
  three front line. So it almost makes it a four
• 1:35:21
  front line. But I mean, what is that
• 1:35:25
  something they will do with the nickel or does an inside backer
• 1:35:28
  come out for them as a nickel and do they play the nickel as a
• 1:35:34
  as that third safety in the three safety type system or is
• 1:35:38
  he another corner? You know, it just it all depends
• 1:35:42
  on I think a lot of this all depend on match up stuff and
• 1:35:47
  what he decides, you know, where he wants to pull things from and
• 1:35:51
  it's that it's back to that prostyle of the of deal there,
• 1:35:56
  you know, got you. Well, you talked about backers
• 1:35:59
  there. Obviously.
• 1:36:00
  I think everybody feels really good about Caleb Woodson, how
• 1:36:04
  his development last year, how he came on, how good he played
• 1:36:07
  at the end of the season. So you feel like he's going to
• 1:36:09
  be on the field at all time. He may never come off the field.
• 1:36:12
  He may never come off the field. The honest God truth.
• 1:36:15
  But you know that the other pieces, that room, we all felt
• 1:36:18
  good. We saw some development with
• 1:36:20
  Gabe Williams. He has that injury, all the
• 1:36:22
  unfortunate stuff that happened after that.
• 1:36:25
  And then they moved Caleb Spencer over and we still got
• 1:36:27
  Keller there. Is this the Keller breakout year
• 1:36:30
  where he. Finally, don't say it, Curtis.
• 1:36:33
  Blasphemy. Well, I mean, I mean, he did
• 1:36:37
  lead the team in tackles last year, believe it or not.
• 1:36:41
  He led the team in tackles with 83.
• 1:36:45
  It's, it's going to be one of those things that's kind of like
• 1:36:52
  you said, it, it gets kind of, it gets kind of fluid in that
• 1:36:57
  situation too. We we all feel like Caleb
• 1:37:00
  Woodson is going to be on the field.
• 1:37:01
  All the time. It doesn't matter.
• 1:37:03
  He's stepped up, he's proven that that he could play in there
• 1:37:08
  and do that. But we know he's got the
• 1:37:10
  athletic ability and, and everything to to help coverage
• 1:37:14
  wise. He's a good interior backer, but
• 1:37:18
  we know he's good in coverage because he's played in a
• 1:37:21
  coverage position in the past. That to me, that's a hell of a
• 1:37:26
  feeling because there's a when I've coached linebackers, one of
• 1:37:30
  the worst feelings in the world is looking at my linebackers and
• 1:37:32
  go, God damn, I hope the, I hope the secondary can cover
• 1:37:37
  everything because I don't have a linebacker that's going to
• 1:37:39
  cover anything. Once once he figured out how to
• 1:37:42
  cover that split zone RPO, he started looking good.
• 1:37:46
  He got he got burned a bunch of times in one game on that, but
• 1:37:49
  once he figured that out, couldn't do it anymore.
• 1:37:53
  I mean, I I've had here here in North Wilkesboro, I've had
• 1:37:56
  inside linebacker that I could count on making 8090 a hundred
• 1:38:00
  tackles a year. But if I had if, if the running
• 1:38:06
  back around the damn wheel out the backfield, that bitch was
• 1:38:09
  going to be wide open. Good.
• 1:38:12
  Night. I mean, I love the kid to death.
• 1:38:16
  He won't he tell you right now I can say, hey, what are we going?
• 1:38:22
  What are we going to do if they hand the ball?
• 1:38:24
  Oh, we're going to tackle the coach.
• 1:38:25
  What happens if he runs that wheel?
• 1:38:27
  He's probably going to score. Coach, here we go.
• 1:38:30
  Let me ask this, Robbie, did you see much of Cameron Fleming out
• 1:38:33
  there in the in the practice that you observed?
• 1:38:37
  Give me a number. 9 number 99. 9 I do not recall seeing a lot of
• 1:38:48
  him, but I can't I, I'm not going to say that he wasn't
• 1:38:52
  there because of other things that I was probably looking at.
• 1:38:56
  Yeah, I wanted to, I personally wanted to see Clatterball out
• 1:39:03
  there to see what he could do and, and where he, you know,
• 1:39:07
  where he's fascinated with, with that kind of with that
• 1:39:12
  linebacker style with that kid. And it, it goes back to the
• 1:39:16
  thing I talked about it, whether he can be a big, tough physical
• 1:39:20
  inside backer and still cover and play out and things like
• 1:39:23
  that. So I get more focused on things
• 1:39:27
  like that because I know those are the players that I have.
• 1:39:30
  Yeah. And so I do remember seeing a
• 1:39:34
  lot of of Caleb Spencer, as we discussed, he he's in that
• 1:39:42
  linebacker position now more than it is a safety, but he's
• 1:39:46
  another one like Woodson. We know they can play.
• 1:39:48
  Cover style you can play cover style you can let you you can
• 1:39:52
  deploy him for certain things and he gained some and he got
• 1:39:54
  some weight gain too up in the mid to 20s now where you feel a
• 1:39:58
  little bit more confident about run support she.
• 1:40:01
  Said you saw some some George balance out there too, right?
• 1:40:04
  Oh, George #41. It's we did see some balance out
• 1:40:07
  there #41. Nice, nice shout out George
• 1:40:12
  Balon. I did see, I did see him some.
• 1:40:16
  And so that'll be again, as you said, we know Woodson's going to
• 1:40:22
  be there. How it unfolds around after that
• 1:40:25
  is what's in the guy that they say, hey, he can do this.
• 1:40:28
  And then we can, we can run some nickels and some stars and some
• 1:40:33
  other different things that we want to see and, and how the the
• 1:40:37
  the wheel mixes in and all of those things, just how they set
• 1:40:41
  things up. You know, as I've said with the
• 1:40:45
  mind we run that 33, if you look at it a lot of times against
• 1:40:53
  some spread teams that are wider.
• 1:40:56
  I'll my defense almost looks like a three one.
• 1:40:59
  Yeah, I mean, because I've got I've got guys over top,
• 1:41:05
  especially if they go in an empty set.
• 1:41:07
  You know, I've got safeties over top on both sides.
• 1:41:10
  I've got outside backers kind of split out.
• 1:41:12
  They're really inside backers. They're not the outside backers
• 1:41:15
  because I've got the safeties helping over and things like
• 1:41:18
  that. And I mean, that is a very
• 1:41:22
  prostyle look for teams that are, I mean, so it'll be
• 1:41:28
  interesting to see how that unfolds and, and who they try to
• 1:41:30
  use in those places. For alignment there, are you
• 1:41:33
  kind of splitting the difference between the tackle and the slot?
• 1:41:35
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:41:38
  So if we're going to play more than 3/4, look, then those guys
• 1:41:43
  are going to be more edge players and and it'll look like
• 1:41:47
  a help for me. Most of the time it looks like a
• 1:41:49
  5/2 like that. That's because I'm playing teams
• 1:41:53
  that are running wing T triple option, that kind of stuff.
• 1:41:59
  So I mean, I, I change, I move a lot of things around based on on
• 1:42:05
  what I'm going to get coming at me.
• 1:42:09
  And I feel like Seek just kind of looks at things that way too,
• 1:42:14
  being AD 3 coach and, you know, working his way up through
• 1:42:20
  things. I, I think he kind of takes some
• 1:42:23
  of that same mindset that I do is, is finding those matchups
• 1:42:27
  matching schemes that to take advantage of weaknesses from the
• 1:42:32
  offense. Yeah, got you.
• 1:42:35
  All right, let's get one last room, the cornerback room.
• 1:42:38
  I mean, we're outside of Dante Lovett and IBM Isaiah Brown
• 1:42:42
  Murray, who's going to probably play a lot of nickel on the
• 1:42:45
  inside. He you'd said that aloud down
• 1:42:47
  his interview, a lot of an experience.
• 1:42:52
  I mean, some some young guys got to step up right.
• 1:42:56
  And and even if somebody steps up, do y'all think we still got
• 1:43:02
  a portal shop for one more or is it or do you hope either
• 1:43:07
  knowledge JoJo or Deloach step up where it's like, Hey, they
• 1:43:11
  can play? Yeah, I mean, I feel like we're
• 1:43:14
  going to be leaning pretty heavy on, you know, outside of Lovett
• 1:43:17
  the, the, the, the 2 Williams, you know, Christian and and
• 1:43:23
  Thomas Williams there, I feel like they're going to be the
• 1:43:25
  guys that are going to kind of step in there as well.
• 1:43:30
  It's it's one of those positions where last year you kind of it
• 1:43:35
  was an afterthought a little bit.
• 1:43:37
  He didn't really worry about it. And I feel like this year it's
• 1:43:39
  going to be, I think this the scheme is going to take a little
• 1:43:43
  bit off of what they have to do relative to what they had to do
• 1:43:50
  in that in that system last year.
• 1:43:53
  But at the same time, you still going to meet guys that can go
• 1:43:56
  out there and match up man to man and cover.
• 1:43:59
  And you're always going to need that to some degree.
• 1:44:02
  So it's going to be interesting to see how these guys, you know,
• 1:44:04
  most of them red shirt sophomores or younger kind of
• 1:44:08
  step in there. So yeah, to your point, Curtis,
• 1:44:12
  you wouldn't, it wouldn't hurt to go out and grab a guy if you
• 1:44:15
  found a guy that has some, some experience that you feel like
• 1:44:18
  could at least be in that, you know, top two, top three in the
• 1:44:23
  rotation. About you, Robbie.
• 1:44:27
  Yeah, there's another reddish in the cornerback room, right?
• 1:44:32
  That's that's that Big Brother who is coming from Winthrop, so
• 1:44:38
  coming from FCS. Wingate.
• 1:44:41
  Wingate, Wingate Wingate still FCS, right?
• 1:44:46
  Yeah, local team. Yeah, and he had a good season
• 1:44:49
  last year. Don't.
• 1:44:50
  I mean they have 4 picks, 11 pass break UPS.
• 1:44:54
  Wingate. Wingate has been a a pretty good
• 1:44:57
  football program here over the last several years.
• 1:45:00
  So I mean. That's Charlotte area, right?
• 1:45:04
  Yeah, from Charlotte area, we we know there we know there's some
• 1:45:12
  there's some talent in the in the in the bloodstream there it.
• 1:45:15
  Is. From.
• 1:45:17
  From. So I mean, there I, I don't like
• 1:45:22
  you said, outside of Lovett, I feel like there were multiple
• 1:45:27
  people that rotated different things and, and did things and
• 1:45:32
  they're going to try to find what fits them best.
• 1:45:39
  I've, I've known, I've known coach Cheetah now for, for
• 1:45:42
  numerous years after he was a Duke when I was in Eastern North
• 1:45:45
  Carolina through some things like that.
• 1:45:49
  And he's going to have, he's going to have those guys
• 1:45:52
  prepared and, and he's going to get the best out of what he can
• 1:45:56
  get. So I mean, I, I think they're
• 1:45:59
  going to be well prepared. It's just a matter of who's
• 1:46:02
  going to step up and take the reins of, of what they need.
• 1:46:06
  Who's going to step in and be the guy and say, hey, you know
• 1:46:09
  what, this position is open and and I'm going to take it.
• 1:46:14
  The Joshua Clark, I know, I guess we talked about that
• 1:46:24
  beforehand. I guess he got hurt recently.
• 1:46:29
  Yeah, we don't, we don't. We don't know exactly what the
• 1:46:31
  extent of that is, but yeah, the word is he got banged up so.
• 1:46:35
  I think he, I think he he played a lot in the bowl game and did
• 1:46:39
  some good things right. Yeah, yeah, he looked, he looked
• 1:46:43
  good in the bowl game. I know he got there was a couple
• 1:46:45
  he got burned on when he was actually in really good
• 1:46:47
  position. You sometimes you just get beat
• 1:46:49
  like sometimes the ball's thrown, thrown where it needs to
• 1:46:53
  be. I like, I like the physicality
• 1:46:56
  he brought, he brought, he brought that kind of that that
• 1:46:59
  physical mindset to the cornerback possession.
• 1:47:02
  Robbie, let me ask you this real quick.
• 1:47:05
  When looking at the cornerback, what, what sort of
• 1:47:08
  responsibilities are they going to have within the scheme of the
• 1:47:11
  defense relative to kind of what we've been seeing historically
• 1:47:15
  here at Virginia Tech and. In my knowledge of this defense
• 1:47:20
  the the corners play a lot of your deeper to kind of man match
• 1:47:27
  type roles. OK.
• 1:47:33
  There's different ways to unfold things in the secondary.
• 1:47:37
  The way we do it that I could, I could ask my corner sometimes to
• 1:47:41
  sit underneath more like a cover to look, your typical cover to
• 1:47:45
  look, but it kind of depends on who your corner is.
• 1:47:52
  If you've got a physical corner that'll take on a a run or or
• 1:47:58
  really go down and pop a screen that they throw out there or or
• 1:48:03
  check down, then you can play more of that cover.
• 1:48:06
  Two types that look, if they're better in the coverage wise,
• 1:48:13
  maybe you look more like a cover three, you know, playing them
• 1:48:18
  more deep, playing them on a match on a single receiver, you
• 1:48:22
  know, that kind of thing. Do you do you see?
• 1:48:26
  Off process on it. Do you see half half fields,
• 1:48:29
  half field man, half fields on with some of these schemes?
• 1:48:33
  Like what secret run? Yeah, you see a lot like pro
• 1:48:39
  wise, you see a lot of split coverages.
• 1:48:44
  For some reason, a lot of teams in the NFL now have gone to a
• 1:48:48
  little bit more of your traditional zone stuff and not
• 1:48:52
  doing as much of the split coverages.
• 1:48:56
  But it's especially when you hit, when you look back at like
• 1:49:01
  the Darrelle Revis and that kind of thing, they would go against
• 1:49:07
  a team that would go, you know, twins with a tight end and then
• 1:49:12
  a single receiver on the backside.
• 1:49:13
  Well, you knew Revis was going to that backside.
• 1:49:16
  He's going to that single receiver and he's going to shut
• 1:49:18
  them down. You better figure out what you
• 1:49:20
  want to do with them three over there because this one is is
• 1:49:22
  locked down. And I mean, that could be a
• 1:49:25
  possibility. If Lovett's that guy, then maybe
• 1:49:28
  they tell Lovett, hey, go lock that one down.
• 1:49:31
  And we forced him to play half of the field.
• 1:49:35
  Maybe that's something he does. Maybe they have a receiver that,
• 1:49:39
  hey, we know we got to put air man on that receiver and then
• 1:49:44
  we'll take our chances with the other ones.
• 1:49:47
  And you know, I play a lot of when I play my split coverage,
• 1:49:51
  I'll put a man on a receiver and then I'll put a safety over top
• 1:49:56
  and maybe a linebacker inside of it.
• 1:49:58
  So I take away inside routes. I I have help over the top, the
• 1:50:03
  vertical routes, that kind of thing that gets a little bit
• 1:50:06
  harder and you know, the higher level of football in high
• 1:50:13
  school. Sometimes that one guy that's
• 1:50:15
  out there that I'm putting three guys in charge of making sure he
• 1:50:18
  doesn't catch anything might be the only thing they have.
• 1:50:22
  You ain't going to run across the college football team that
• 1:50:25
  you just look at there and go. That's the only thing they have.
• 1:50:28
  We shut him down. They don't stand a chance.
• 1:50:32
  I know you know looking back at Marv like we there, there was a
• 1:50:36
  lot more like kind of man under looks last year.
• 1:50:42
  You think we're going to see a lot of that go away?
• 1:50:47
  I don't know, like I think you have the opportunity to be able
• 1:50:51
  to see it, especially with the type of personnel that they
• 1:50:54
  could put on the field at times. OK, I think it's still an option
• 1:51:00
  to be able to do. But yeah, I love a man under
• 1:51:04
  look, a lot of times, especially against a team that I know is
• 1:51:07
  not going to line up and pound the ball at me that wants to
• 1:51:10
  throw some screens and throw some quick game like that.
• 1:51:13
  I'll play the man and rob it with somebody over top of it.
• 1:51:17
  But if you if you got a team that's going to come out there
• 1:51:19
  and the quarterback is a threat to to fake that take off up the
• 1:51:24
  middle through all of that, it's it'll bring in.
• 1:51:27
  You know Bernie. It's going to kind of depend on
• 1:51:29
  that personnel again and and the scheme that you're playing
• 1:51:33
  against what you're trying to stop all.
• 1:51:35
  Right, So that kind of wraps up at it right there.
• 1:51:39
  What we're looking for Saturday, it's going to be new.
• 1:51:42
  That's it. That's all you can say.
• 1:51:43
  It's new. Those who will be in person like
• 1:51:46
  Brian, y'all are going to see it up close.
• 1:51:48
  Those who won't be, hopefully they do release a full tape at
• 1:51:51
  some point. If not, we'll go with highlights
• 1:51:53
  and we'll be back here next week to definitely breakdown the game
• 1:51:57
  itself, what we saw, what we liked, what we didn't like, who
• 1:52:00
  we didn't see, why when we see them and so on.
• 1:52:03
  But with that, I'm going to wrap up this episode of the Boundary
• 1:52:07
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  Yep, SWVAI like the hat. Robbie, I meant to say that in
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  the beginning. Check out Jason Jason Long
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  music.com, where you can link to all of his music, Apple,
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  Spotify, his YouTube and Facebook pages.
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  Also his live events. And he is surely cranking up
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  live events all over the New River Valley.
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  We appreciate y'all for listening out there.
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  Appreciate y'all in the chat tonight.
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  And as always, let's go. Hokies.
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  The.