Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Kevin Hart & Will Packer Talk Fight Night: The Million Dollar Heist, Industry Relationships + More
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- 0:51Speaker 2: The Crown is yours. Wake that ass up in the morning.
- 1:00Speaker 3: The Breakfast Club.
- 1:03Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ and B Jess Hilary Charlamage the guy
- 1:07Speaker 1: we are the Breakfast Club. Jess is out today maternity,
- 1:13Speaker 1: and we got some special guests in the building.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen. We have Will pack up what's happening,
- 1:17Speaker 2: and we have Kevin, Kevin Hart, he's here, he's here.
- 1:21Speaker 2: We have elect Kevin Hard. So it's allowed for you.
- 1:27Speaker 2: So Kevin was supposed to be her. I'll tell you
- 1:29Speaker 2: the irony of this, right.
- 1:31Speaker 3: Kev's hungover right now.
- 1:32Speaker 4: But if you read the first chapter in Will Packer's book,
- 1:35Speaker 4: he has a chapter called We're Gonna Die tonight, right,
- 1:39Speaker 4: and it's essentially this story. This isn't what you were
- 1:41Speaker 4: worried about, Will, you were concerned about.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Listen, brother, he almost ruined both our careers. This is
- 1:47Speaker 2: not This is not the first time.
- 1:50Speaker 3: Listen.
- 1:50Speaker 2: See.
- 1:51Speaker 5: The difference is that Kevin is at a point now
- 1:53Speaker 5: he can get away with the ship.
- 1:55Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
- 1:56Speaker 5: He's Kevin Hart, right, so you know people will just
- 1:58Speaker 5: wait and been over back. Isn't all that There was
- 2:01Speaker 5: a time when it was the biggest movie of both
- 2:03Speaker 5: of our career. He was absolutely right along with ice Cube,
- 2:07Speaker 5: and we had done things like a man. That was
- 2:09Speaker 5: the one that really kind of caltiposed to Kevin and
- 2:12Speaker 5: everybody was like.
- 2:13Speaker 2: Okay, what's gonna do next? Like, what what are they
- 2:15Speaker 2: gonna do next?
- 2:16Speaker 5: So this was the one the biggest budget of our
- 2:18Speaker 5: careers everything, And Kevin, you remember what happened?
- 2:24Speaker 2: Did I? Like? Absolutely?
- 2:25Speaker 6: Did we get what we were supposed to get? And
- 2:27Speaker 6: did we get back to where we were supposed.
- 2:29Speaker 2: To be so Envy were shooting?
- 2:32Speaker 6: Did we get back to where we were supposed to be?
- 2:34Speaker 2: We barely got back?
- 2:35Speaker 6: Vita, why are you.
- 2:37Speaker 5: Bitch all the time? You see this? This is people
- 2:42Speaker 5: want to know what a producer does. Right, They asked me,
- 2:45Speaker 5: this is what.
- 2:45Speaker 2: A producer does. You see it? You see him smelling
- 2:48Speaker 2: the coffee, trying to get you're trying to come back
- 2:53Speaker 2: to life. This is what it looks like.
- 2:54Speaker 1: So Kevin was supposed to be I was supposed to
- 2:55Speaker 1: be here three hours early, four hours early.
- 2:57Speaker 6: Boy issued. First of all, tell me why the people
- 3:02Speaker 6: on radio need to know that it's radio? So you
- 3:05Speaker 6: say they need a fucking breakdown.
- 3:07Speaker 2: Four hours earlier.
- 3:08Speaker 1: And they said Kep can't make it because he's SI
- 3:10Speaker 1: and we all said, bullshit, he was drunk because he
- 3:13Speaker 1: went out last night.
- 3:14Speaker 6: I did not go out last night. So let's let's
- 3:17Speaker 6: that's actually true.
- 3:18Speaker 2: I go out last night.
- 3:19Speaker 6: By the way, I do not go out. I'm forty
- 3:22Speaker 6: five years old. I don't go to fucking clubs. I
- 3:24Speaker 6: don't go to parties. I was working. I did promos.
- 3:29Speaker 3: My weekend.
- 3:30Speaker 6: I own the fucking weekend, and then I have to
- 3:32Speaker 6: show face.
- 3:34Speaker 2: I have to be there.
- 3:37Speaker 3: My weekend. I go.
- 3:40Speaker 6: We have clubs, I gotta show face.
- 3:43Speaker 3: To the club.
- 3:44Speaker 6: No, well, yes, no, on all seriouslys So last night, uh,
- 3:50Speaker 6: you know, we're doing promo and everything for Fight Night,
- 3:53Speaker 6: rolling out all of the carpet of the carpets. So
- 3:58Speaker 6: before the actual premiere, we announced it. But I had
- 4:02Speaker 6: to leave because I had to do Seth Myers and
- 4:05Speaker 6: Seth Myers has a segment called Drinking with Seth, and
- 4:09Speaker 6: you you go to a bar and Seth makes these
- 4:13Speaker 6: drinks or whatever, and it's like, you know, for hour
- 4:15Speaker 6: and after two hours, you're drinking throughout the interview. And
- 4:21Speaker 6: you know, I don't drink anything outside of my fucking
- 4:24Speaker 6: tequila at this point in my life, so you know,
- 4:27Speaker 6: anything else, anything else I'm very unfamiliar with. And said,
- 4:32Speaker 6: let's close it out with your tequila, but let's start
- 4:34Speaker 6: it with everything. So he threw it all at me
- 4:37Speaker 6: like I'm talking. It's Jaegermeister and wild Turkey. I mean
- 4:42Speaker 6: we were brown, we were dark, but.
- 4:48Speaker 2: You can.
- 4:48Speaker 6: But you have to understand the beauty of good television.
- 4:51Speaker 6: And it was a good conversation, great interview and while
- 4:54Speaker 6: we're drinking for good reason behind the answers, and we
- 4:58Speaker 6: we finished it with is to kill it. We went
- 5:00Speaker 6: through a lot and I just don't remember the back
- 5:04Speaker 6: half of the time. And that's why I didn't show
- 5:07Speaker 6: up to the after party. I missed that. And this
- 5:09Speaker 6: morning is to say, m I would have been here.
- 5:12Speaker 4: Bro, Why couldn't you missed the after party after the
- 5:14Speaker 4: garden that night? So y'all could have just got back
- 5:15Speaker 4: to you.
- 5:16Speaker 6: Because we weren't drinking. That's why I want somebody's being
- 5:18Speaker 6: a bitch like Kevin.
- 5:21Speaker 2: It was our money.
- 5:22Speaker 6: We weren't fucked up like oh man, where's my jacket?
- 5:25Speaker 6: We weren't just out at a show.
- 5:28Speaker 2: The biggest movie of our career. Okay, where's your tampon?
- 5:33Speaker 5: Jesus Christ books a show at Madison Square Guarden. He
- 5:37Speaker 5: takes a comedy special in the middle of our movie.
- 5:41Speaker 6: I tore while filming a movie faithfully he does.
- 5:44Speaker 2: Which is not a good thing.
- 5:46Speaker 5: Boys and girls like and you're looking at how to
- 5:48Speaker 5: be successful, like, don't overbook yourself.
- 5:50Speaker 2: That one thing about my friend here, do it because
- 5:54Speaker 2: nobody's going over working. I'm a bad don't do it, Kevin.
- 6:01Speaker 2: Look at his career.
- 6:03Speaker 6: He's been doing wrong this whole time.
- 6:08Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry, kids.
- 6:10Speaker 6: Kevin booked the fucking cloud showing Madison Square Garden take
- 6:14Speaker 6: the Special and got to work and on time for
- 6:17Speaker 6: the biggest movie in his career.
- 6:19Speaker 5: I was gonna say, people that are listening, no, it's
- 6:22Speaker 5: because you have people around you who will save you.
- 6:25Speaker 2: You have folks that will save you. And that's what happened.
- 6:28Speaker 5: He booked it right, and so he left the show
- 6:31Speaker 5: in the middle.
- 6:32Speaker 2: Of it, right, the biggest moves for Universe Studios. He leaves.
- 6:35Speaker 5: But you know what he does, because this is the
- 6:37Speaker 5: evil genius of Kevin Hart.
- 6:39Speaker 2: He goes, hey, man, I gotta do this show.
- 6:41Speaker 5: It's next week, you know, he tells me a week
- 6:44Speaker 5: before he goes, hey, you know what you and Tim
- 6:46Speaker 5: Story did the Like He's like, I got the jet,
- 6:50Speaker 5: you know what, bring bring the wine. So my dumb ass,
- 6:54Speaker 5: I'm like, you know what he brought, and you know
- 6:56Speaker 5: what he said. He said that way you can make
- 6:58Speaker 5: sure that we get back on time, because I knew
- 7:00Speaker 5: we had to shoot the next day. So we're shooting
- 7:02Speaker 5: one day. He's gonna go do the show that night,
- 7:04Speaker 5: and then we had to shoot the next morning on
- 7:06Speaker 5: a location we can only get that day.
- 7:08Speaker 2: He's like, come with let.
- 7:09Speaker 6: Us driver in Alabi.
- 7:11Speaker 2: So absolutely right, absolutely absolutely.
- 7:19Speaker 6: I think I was a professional because direct producer for me.
- 7:23Speaker 6: You can't think I'm an asshole.
- 7:25Speaker 2: They would be. Kevin has an amazing show of Masies
- 7:28Speaker 2: Square Guard.
- 7:28Speaker 5: All the celebs come out afterwards were after party that
- 7:31Speaker 5: he did not tell me about. I'm in there with
- 7:32Speaker 5: Carmelo Anthony buying bottles, going, oh, we dying tonight?
- 7:36Speaker 2: We turning up tonight?
- 7:38Speaker 3: Why wars have power? Why are we going to die
- 7:40Speaker 3: to that?
- 7:40Speaker 6: This is what? Well we're gonna die to? That means
- 7:42Speaker 6: we're having a good time. You're choosing to die over life.
- 7:47Speaker 6: How good of a time is that? Last night? I
- 7:50Speaker 6: didn't say we're gonna die tonight.
- 7:51Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is work.
- 7:52Speaker 5: When I was in that club and I saw my
- 7:54Speaker 5: career flashing before my eyes, because I realized there was
- 7:56Speaker 5: no way we're gonna be able to get back in time.
- 7:58Speaker 5: I had that moment because I'm sitting there look at keV,
- 8:01Speaker 5: and I realized we're not gonna make it.
- 8:02Speaker 2: And keV looks at me, he goes, well, we tried,
- 8:05Speaker 2: we tried. That was it?
- 8:06Speaker 5: Remember in Usual Suspects, when he realized that was sitting
- 8:09Speaker 5: in front the whole time. I looked at Kevin Hart
- 8:11Speaker 5: and I realized that he had convinced me, the producer
- 8:14Speaker 5: and director of the movie, to get on a jet
- 8:16Speaker 5: with him, so that when Universal called and said, why
- 8:19Speaker 5: are y'all over budget and not able to finish the movie?
- 8:22Speaker 5: And they say, well, Kevin Hart, Will Packer and Tim's
- 8:25Speaker 5: story were there, so the producer went with him.
- 8:28Speaker 2: It would be on me.
- 8:29Speaker 5: When I was complicit, I realized that was his evil
- 8:31Speaker 5: plan all in along.
- 8:32Speaker 4: I called him a diabolical rascal, spawn of Satan.
- 8:35Speaker 2: That's true. I love him, but that's truer words never spoken, sir.
- 8:43Speaker 6: I will ask you and your listeners, what is a
- 8:46Speaker 6: life without a great story. It's something that can't be
- 8:49Speaker 6: talked about. It's untold. A life with our stories is
- 8:53Speaker 6: nothing you need fucking stories, good and the bad. He's
- 8:57Speaker 6: bitching about a great story. And by the way that
- 9:00Speaker 6: story did what amplified our relationship? And look at where
- 9:04Speaker 6: we are now fright night, we're talking about something else
- 9:07Speaker 6: that we're yet in business and we produced and developed together.
- 9:10Speaker 6: Do we get here without that moment?
- 9:12Speaker 2: No?
- 9:12Speaker 6: We do not.
- 9:13Speaker 2: So why did you still want to be his friend
- 9:14Speaker 2: after that? After you figured that out? You could have said,
- 9:16Speaker 2: you know what, this relationship no longer happens.
- 9:20Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, You need it, you need
- 9:24Speaker 6: to envy.
- 9:26Speaker 5: I'm so afraid that if I leave Kevin Harts Like
- 9:28Speaker 5: he'll just get close right he just burn up on
- 9:31Speaker 5: the spot.
- 9:32Speaker 2: I just don't know what he did.
- 9:33Speaker 6: Without it's close to being over it.
- 9:39Speaker 7: Have brought you to that works so well because even
- 9:41Speaker 7: like just here with you guys in person, it's like
- 9:43Speaker 7: I could I could listen to this back of a
- 9:44Speaker 7: fall day long really talking.
- 9:45Speaker 5: With each other's most frequent collaborators kept one a ton
- 9:48Speaker 5: of movies. I've done a ton of movies, TV projects.
- 9:50Speaker 5: We haven't worked with anybody else more than we work
- 9:52Speaker 5: with each other.
- 9:53Speaker 6: I'll give it. I'll give will this on air and
- 9:56Speaker 6: half of it is because I'm still drunk and by
- 10:00Speaker 6: the way of some of the best fucking to kill
- 10:02Speaker 6: it in the market. He's kind of commercial, but it's
- 10:06Speaker 6: just a time to let people know smooth taste. And
- 10:09Speaker 6: it comes to it. You got to understand what and
- 10:14Speaker 6: why Grand Cormino is that and has been that, which
- 10:17Speaker 6: is why I drink it at the level that I do.
- 10:19Speaker 6: But it's not about that right now. It's not about
- 10:21Speaker 6: the product. It's about the passion. Let's get to that
- 10:24Speaker 6: and we'll toast it that after with Grand Cormino. But
- 10:28Speaker 6: I would say this is about Will. I don't say
- 10:31Speaker 6: it enough if people don't understand it, and I think
- 10:34Speaker 6: they should. Uh, I don't get to where I got
- 10:38Speaker 6: in career or business without the information and relationship of
- 10:44Speaker 6: Will Packer, you know what I mean. Like when it
- 10:46Speaker 6: came to producing and when it came to development, or
- 10:48Speaker 6: it came to packaging, Will Packer is the guy that
- 10:52Speaker 6: was the definition of what that was. So from the
- 10:54Speaker 6: early days of think like a man, he was the
- 10:56Speaker 6: producer that came to me and said, Hey, I got
- 10:59Speaker 6: this thing, I want to do this thing, and I
- 11:01Speaker 6: think you're the guy. And those are words words without
- 11:05Speaker 6: action are just that. He put action behind the words.
- 11:08Speaker 6: Everything he said he would do he did. He got
- 11:10Speaker 6: the people he wrangered, wrangled, the directors, the actors, the actresses,
- 11:15Speaker 6: the producer partners, writers, etc. He can figured a way
- 11:19Speaker 6: to formulate and activate. And I was like, goddamn man, like,
- 11:22Speaker 6: how do you do that? And he taught me. Will
- 11:25Speaker 6: taught me how to do it. And as I progressed,
- 11:28Speaker 6: I never forgot who he was and what he was.
- 11:30Speaker 6: So our relationship today is based off of never forget,
- 11:35Speaker 6: like you don't you don't forget the real side of
- 11:39Speaker 6: like success attached to just care. He gave a fuck
- 11:43Speaker 6: about me, then he gives more fuck about me. Now
- 11:46Speaker 6: in return, I doubled down on my level of give
- 11:49Speaker 6: a fuck about him. So I don't I don't want
- 11:52Speaker 6: to win if I can't figure out a way to
- 11:55Speaker 6: win with my brothers. So the commitment that we made was, hey, man,
- 11:58Speaker 6: let's figure out a way to continue. Although keV, you're
- 12:00Speaker 6: doing and you have, but how do we still do?
- 12:03Speaker 6: And I love the fact that we still are, uh,
- 12:06Speaker 6: and we're committed to figure out more ways to do more.
- 12:09Speaker 6: And what you're seeing today is a definition of what
- 12:13Speaker 6: we want people to follow through with like, we are
- 12:17Speaker 6: no egos. We are help your brother so he can
- 12:21Speaker 6: help you. We are that And I think it's the
- 12:25Speaker 6: best story in Hollywood if people were more privy to
- 12:28Speaker 6: how deep and like in depth it actually is facts,
- 12:32Speaker 6: right the.
- 12:34Speaker 4: Fight Night TV show, right, it shows these characters operating
- 12:38Speaker 4: within a black world where they all hold power. So
- 12:41Speaker 4: to your point, keV, how effective has that concept been
- 12:43Speaker 4: for you both in the world of Hollywood.
- 12:45Speaker 6: I think I think it hasn't been effective enough. And
- 12:48Speaker 6: I think you know when you look at the ice
- 12:51Speaker 6: Cube and Kevin Hart of it all are the middle
- 12:54Speaker 6: common denominator packering. All right, guys, let's do this, but
- 12:56Speaker 6: let's make it and Cube come in and like, there's
- 12:59Speaker 6: always a through line of connectivity and that person has
- 13:03Speaker 6: to be willing to go above and beyond. Fight Night
- 13:05Speaker 6: is the definition of going above and beyond, all right, keV,
- 13:08Speaker 6: I got this idea. The idea came after I was
- 13:11Speaker 6: supposed to do Uptown Saturday Night. Uptown Saturday Night was
- 13:14Speaker 6: gonna be me and Chadwick Boseman rest in peace to
- 13:17Speaker 6: the legend himself. Fuck, oh my god, I had no idea. Well,
- 13:21Speaker 6: I don't want to do this anymore. I can't do
- 13:23Speaker 6: that without Chadwick. That project is dead to me. Will
- 13:27Speaker 6: had the actual rights, the original story, the true story.
- 13:31Speaker 6: So Will came to me. I said, well, I can't
- 13:34Speaker 6: do a comedy because of this. Can it be serious?
- 13:36Speaker 6: Can we do it in a way to where it's
- 13:38Speaker 6: like a lot deeper raw real? He said, Kevin, absolutely, Hey,
- 13:43Speaker 6: the podcast was points me to the podcast that he
- 13:47Speaker 6: was a part of that understood, etc. All right, shit,
- 13:50Speaker 6: this is like real information now real knowledge. Will. I'm
- 13:53Speaker 6: a fuck with it because it's you. But let's make
- 13:56Speaker 6: sure that we try to go above and beyond to
- 13:58Speaker 6: package it correctly. How do we do a premium a
- 14:02Speaker 6: premium cultural piece of IP that has the bandwidth to
- 14:06Speaker 6: live forever? And you can't do that without big stars.
- 14:09Speaker 6: To get big stars, you need real relationships. So the
- 14:12Speaker 6: leverage of understanding that we both shared and that we
- 14:15Speaker 6: had at the top of get the studio's commitment, get
- 14:18Speaker 6: the studio to back and support, then go get the talent.
- 14:20Speaker 6: I gotta be honest with you. My guy was a
- 14:22Speaker 6: big part of all of that conversation, and I followed
- 14:25Speaker 6: the lead of most and I think where we were
- 14:28Speaker 6: collaborative was dope as fuck and the outcome was amazing.
- 14:32Speaker 6: Talent configuration and now an example of what the business
- 14:36Speaker 6: should follow through with, which is collaboration. Collaboration, you can
- 14:42Speaker 6: win more together, you win less as an individual, How
- 14:47Speaker 6: do you put yourself in a position to collaborate more?
- 14:49Speaker 6: So if we can be the example of hopefully most
- 14:53Speaker 6: will follow through and hopefully we can do more and
- 14:56Speaker 6: people will say, oh, that's great because they do dope
- 14:58Speaker 6: shit and here's an example of it. Let's do some
- 15:00Speaker 6: dope shit with them. That's where I'm at in my
- 15:02Speaker 6: career now. I could care less about the individual star
- 15:06Speaker 6: of Kevin Hart. I'm looking for the moments. I'm looking
- 15:10Speaker 6: for the IP and I'm looking for the evergreen like material.
- 15:13Speaker 6: You can't do that.
- 15:14Speaker 2: That part is true.
- 15:15Speaker 5: I will tell you that, like Kevi has definitely reached
- 15:18Speaker 5: a part in his career, a moment in his career
- 15:20Speaker 5: where you know you've had success and it's like how
- 15:24Speaker 5: do you grow, how do you work with people that
- 15:26Speaker 5: you respect, and how do you build a machine that
- 15:29Speaker 5: then empowers others. It's interesting, Charlomagne, you talked about like
- 15:33Speaker 5: the world of Fight Night, Fight Night, is really about
- 15:36Speaker 5: a group of hustlers, dreamers, entrepreneurs who are trying to
- 15:41Speaker 5: take Atlanta and turn it into something. It's back in
- 15:44Speaker 5: nineteen seventy, right, Martin Luther King had just been shot
- 15:46Speaker 5: a couple of years earlier. Atlanta was like seen as
- 15:49Speaker 5: a small country town that you.
- 15:51Speaker 2: Had a couple of civil rights folks.
- 15:53Speaker 5: Like people didn't know if it was going to be
- 15:55Speaker 5: the next Charlotte or Birmingham, and nothing wrong with those cities,
- 15:58Speaker 5: but it definitely wasn't looked at on the level of
- 16:00Speaker 5: a global superpower or a New York Chicago LA.
- 16:03Speaker 2: You know, it was Atlanta and it was not respected.
- 16:06Speaker 5: But you had a group of folks, which is not
- 16:08Speaker 5: unlike how Black Hollywood is right now, where you got
- 16:11Speaker 5: a group of dreamers trying to figure out how do
- 16:12Speaker 5: we work together now. Of course in Fight Night, you
- 16:14Speaker 5: got you know, a character who's Kevin's character.
- 16:17Speaker 2: He's a hustler.
- 16:18Speaker 5: He's going YO, give me a shot, give me a chance.
- 16:20Speaker 5: I can just turn it Lanta into something great.
- 16:22Speaker 2: Chicken Man, Chicken Man.
- 16:24Speaker 5: Weirdly, Sam Jackson, who plays the big gangster the Black
- 16:27Speaker 5: Godfather in the show, he actually also got a dream too.
- 16:30Speaker 3: Right.
- 16:30Speaker 5: Even though he's a big gangster's running a black mafia,
- 16:32Speaker 5: his dream is saying, you know what, the white man's
- 16:35Speaker 5: been holding me down for a very long time. If
- 16:36Speaker 5: y'all give me a shot an opportunity, I can take
- 16:38Speaker 5: over Land. I could turn it Land into a black mecca. Oddly,
- 16:41Speaker 5: even though like Kevin, Sam's characters are odds for most
- 16:44Speaker 5: of the.
- 16:44Speaker 2: Series, the reality is that they have the same kind
- 16:48Speaker 2: of a dream.
- 16:48Speaker 5: That's kind of how it is right now in terms
- 16:50Speaker 5: of like folks like us in Hollywood in real life.
- 16:52Speaker 2: Who are all trying to work together. Is it true
- 16:54Speaker 2: that Samuel Jackson was really there in Atlanta? Right there?
- 16:58Speaker 6: Dog?
- 16:59Speaker 2: He was at more House.
- 17:00Speaker 6: Sam old as fuck.
- 17:04Speaker 2: Like that.
- 17:09Speaker 6: I remember, like we were we were on a call
- 17:11Speaker 6: with Sam at the start of with Sam said like, yo,
- 17:14Speaker 6: he liked that he would do it. We were on
- 17:15Speaker 6: a call. We're going through the materials seeing what Sam
- 17:18Speaker 6: said about the characters. Sam was like, yeah, man, y'all
- 17:19Speaker 6: got to change a lot of the ship because more
- 17:22Speaker 6: happened then. You know, I think we got the story,
- 17:26Speaker 6: you know, because we you know, the podcast and everything.
- 17:28Speaker 6: We got the really, motherfucker, I was there. What do
- 17:34Speaker 6: you mean by that. He's very adamant about telling you
- 17:39Speaker 6: where he was, what he knows. So the story of
- 17:42Speaker 6: Fighting Night got better. It got so much better as
- 17:45Speaker 6: we went on. Oh my god, she is the best
- 17:48Speaker 6: by the way, you and me, I mean since the
- 17:52Speaker 6: joke with the little Mike, we have never left that stage.
- 17:55Speaker 6: You're the best, uh walking on? She gave out much
- 18:00Speaker 6: to them, all this right here, got here, get this
- 18:04Speaker 6: right here. I need Greek.
- 18:05Speaker 3: Brother.
- 18:06Speaker 6: There's a chance right now I may not make it
- 18:08Speaker 6: to the end of the I'm giving you everything I
- 18:10Speaker 6: got to try to say, tell you.
- 18:17Speaker 2: Always makes it. It's going to fall off to did
- 18:21Speaker 2: you did you see your You know.
- 18:23Speaker 4: We look at the iron the war finish, look at
- 18:28Speaker 4: this man, I mean, and is that cha?
- 18:31Speaker 2: Sam and Chadwick and Ca Wow. On the scale weill
- 18:35Speaker 2: as far as size because he'd be small. But is
- 18:39Speaker 2: that that crazy?
- 18:43Speaker 6: He just told that story? What story is one thousand
- 18:48Speaker 6: percent accurate?
- 18:48Speaker 2: Wow?
- 18:49Speaker 6: For the listeners, if you guys, go watch Don't Funk
- 18:51Speaker 6: This Up, which is a document to documentary documenting on
- 18:55Speaker 6: that documentary on Netflix about when I went through like
- 18:58Speaker 6: some of my worst times in the business and the
- 19:01Speaker 6: things that I was juggling during the duration of that time.
- 19:04Speaker 6: You'll see me and Chadwick actively meeting about uptown Saturday night,
- 19:09Speaker 6: Me and Chadwick before before us going to the final stages,
- 19:13Speaker 6: we wanted to make sure that we were on the
- 19:14Speaker 6: same page with the characters, the story, and the development.
- 19:19Speaker 6: And Chadwick was an active producer in it. He had
- 19:22Speaker 6: his partners there. You'll see it, and don't funk this up.
- 19:26Speaker 5: So the fact that y'all got a mural right with him,
- 19:30Speaker 5: with keV Hart and Chadwick and then Sam Jackson, who
- 19:33Speaker 5: he ended up making that same project with, that's insane.
- 19:38Speaker 6: That's insane, you know what, man, And and I don't
- 19:40Speaker 6: do this often, but I'm going to drink a shot
- 19:42Speaker 6: of Grand Cormino to that.
- 19:51Speaker 2: It's a moment.
- 19:52Speaker 6: It's a moment of understanding. It's a moment of understanding,
- 19:55Speaker 6: and it's a moment of celebration. Man, that right there
- 19:59Speaker 6: is celebrator.
- 20:00Speaker 2: That's awesome.
- 20:00Speaker 6: And I just want to take a shot to get.
- 20:02Speaker 2: Lets do we all need a shot?
- 20:04Speaker 1: You and you and you said it did that your
- 20:06Speaker 1: feet didn't touch the ground. Now with charlatans a chair.
- 20:08Speaker 6: I'm selling a chair. Sorry, I never said I said,
- 20:11Speaker 6: I never said an game about my feet.
- 20:12Speaker 2: I'm sorry he said it wasn't to scale. It's not
- 20:15Speaker 2: just sc said, yes, HBC.
- 20:19Speaker 1: I knew this anytime will pack come because he always
- 20:21Speaker 1: stays family. So I put the hampt University.
- 20:23Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy.
- 20:24Speaker 6: A lot of old niggas that can't let college go,
- 20:28Speaker 6: a lot of old niggas that refused to just accept
- 20:31Speaker 6: this over envy.
- 20:32Speaker 2: When you when you wear a cat that never went
- 20:34Speaker 2: to any school at all. He didn't go to a historically.
- 20:38Speaker 6: I'll tell you what I didn't, and this is why,
- 20:40Speaker 6: like you guys are the example of what you don't
- 20:43Speaker 6: want to be.
- 20:44Speaker 2: It's over your culture.
- 20:45Speaker 6: You don't let it go.
- 20:47Speaker 2: Come on, let it be. No Where did you go?
- 20:50Speaker 6: She didn't?
- 20:52Speaker 2: I thought I was trying to university? There you go,
- 20:59Speaker 2: Delaware State. That's just a bunch of niggas. Don't care
- 21:05Speaker 2: Delaware State.
- 21:11Speaker 4: You know what I wanted to ask you, Yes, sir,
- 21:13Speaker 4: how do you manage all these big as personalities?
- 21:16Speaker 2: Roger bitch, Samuel Jackson? How do you do it?
- 21:20Speaker 6: Yes?
- 21:20Speaker 2: Yes, cheers. First, let me you know, did you drink?
- 21:26Speaker 2: What are you doing?
- 21:29Speaker 6: I was.
- 21:34Speaker 2: I'm a Christian. That can't be Jesus with the family.
- 21:39Speaker 2: This is not wine. This is not Jesus. Can't turn
- 21:42Speaker 2: this and then nothing. We're not gonna do it in
- 21:45Speaker 2: the area. Don't you don't, Chris Man, I'm a Christian, Kevin,
- 21:50Speaker 2: don't do it. Drink the Lord.
- 21:58Speaker 6: Don't you want miss an impulse?
- 22:03Speaker 2: Did? Let me see?
- 22:05Speaker 8: I never poured him one Look at that, yo, real,
- 22:17Speaker 8: you don't know what he do to.
- 22:18Speaker 2: Me every day. Took him down.
- 22:20Speaker 7: I didn't pour him a shot, so he ain't taking nothing.
- 22:22Speaker 6: Really, I'm saying, as punishment, give a big shot.
- 22:26Speaker 2: You don't I do? Like my brother is Workotte Man?
- 22:31Speaker 2: All right, I'm with you. Listen. You talked about the
- 22:34Speaker 2: big person out.
- 22:34Speaker 5: That's that is the hardest part of the job as
- 22:37Speaker 5: a producer, you know what I mean? And in real talk,
- 22:39Speaker 5: it's it's awesome when you got somebody like keV who
- 22:42Speaker 5: gets it, who understands at the end of the day
- 22:44Speaker 5: with the bigger pictures, but a lot of time, okay,
- 22:47Speaker 5: if it's you know, Hollywood music, you know stock market,
- 22:50Speaker 5: whatever it is, the people say, you say, right.
- 22:54Speaker 2: Air, can you so you argue with kem though, because
- 22:58Speaker 2: he seems like he's a lot. Let me tell you something.
- 23:01Speaker 6: The least problem that you will ever have in any
- 23:05Speaker 6: work environment, that's unproblematic.
- 23:07Speaker 2: He's a problem. I mean.
- 23:08Speaker 5: The challenge with Kevin is that he will overdo things right.
- 23:12Speaker 5: He would do things like have a show a massive
- 23:13Speaker 5: square garden at the same time that we have a
- 23:15Speaker 5: big scene in our movie. Now, he's definitely he's not
- 23:19Speaker 5: He's not a moderation guy, you know what I mean.
- 23:21Speaker 5: That's part of the cheese. That's why I'm here on
- 23:24Speaker 5: the breakfast club. You're eating this this turkey saying was
- 23:26Speaker 5: trying to get some grease.
- 23:27Speaker 2: In his cut. It didn't burn you. At least let
- 23:30Speaker 2: it cool a little bit. Come on, animal, This is
- 23:32Speaker 2: what I needed? Is that what Hollywood? I can't take him.
- 23:37Speaker 4: He's done a phenomenal job as Chicken Man, but I
- 23:39Speaker 4: can't take him serious and dramas because it just always
- 23:42Speaker 4: seems like always jokes.
- 23:44Speaker 5: But can't tell you something real talk. Chicken Man is
- 23:46Speaker 5: his best work yet. I'm telling you. You look at
- 23:50Speaker 5: what he's doing with his eyes, and you know a
- 23:52Speaker 5: lot of people. You know, it's known that comedians they
- 23:55Speaker 5: pulled from pain, right, and that's how they deflect, and
- 23:57Speaker 5: that's where a lot of the comedy comes from Kevin exception.
- 24:01Speaker 5: But the reality is that when he said we gotta
- 24:03Speaker 5: do this as a drama, that was a big risk
- 24:05Speaker 5: because people say, all right, fight not Kevin Hart starring there,
- 24:08Speaker 5: let's go.
- 24:08Speaker 2: I'm ready to laugh, like you said, Charlotte Main. But
- 24:10Speaker 2: the reality is that this is serious.
- 24:12Speaker 5: Now you have moments of levity, but the tone make
- 24:15Speaker 5: no mistake, is dramatic, like it goes there.
- 24:18Speaker 6: I don't want to sound like an asshole, but this
- 24:20Speaker 6: may sound asshole ish, right, it may sound assholely.
- 24:25Speaker 2: You gave it to him.
- 24:29Speaker 6: It's a big jump to the audience that watches of
- 24:33Speaker 6: what a talent is doing. If you're not used to it.
- 24:36Speaker 6: A talent knows what's in their fucking bag. You know
- 24:38Speaker 6: what you can ring, well, you know who you can call,
- 24:40Speaker 6: you know what you can package and do. The operation
- 24:43Speaker 6: at task to drama is project based. You give me
- 24:47Speaker 6: a great project, and in the project, I'm supposed to
- 24:50Speaker 6: be serious and I'm supposed to have a cadence of
- 24:53Speaker 6: and it is such a great piece of material that
- 24:55Speaker 6: I choose to do, I'll do it the best of
- 24:57Speaker 6: my ability. That's called the talent. That's a town's choice,
- 25:00Speaker 6: in a town's decision, it's what are you what are
- 25:04Speaker 6: you fucking factoring in to you making the decision. I'm
- 25:08Speaker 6: not doing it in an environment where it won't be cool,
- 25:11Speaker 6: collective and fucking like dope. If I can't work with
- 25:15Speaker 6: great people, I can't work with great directors, great producers,
- 25:19Speaker 6: great writers, then I don't want to do it. I'm
- 25:21Speaker 6: at a point in my life where it's about having
- 25:24Speaker 6: a good time. This project is relationship based. Every aspect
- 25:30Speaker 6: of this project is formulated off a relationship.
- 25:33Speaker 2: That's really by the way, everybody said that too.
- 25:36Speaker 5: Sorry, I was just gonna say because castuck, Like a
- 25:39Speaker 5: lot of people ask, oh, with that cast, you had
- 25:41Speaker 5: to back up the truck, right, And by the way,
- 25:44Speaker 5: you do right.
- 25:45Speaker 2: These folks deserve you know.
- 25:46Speaker 5: And I'm very proud of the fact that you know,
- 25:49Speaker 5: as a black producing the business, I definitely take care
- 25:51Speaker 5: of folks that look like us and make sure that
- 25:53Speaker 5: I pay them on par with their counterparts and their peers.
- 25:58Speaker 5: But Kevin is absolutely right. You don't do a show
- 26:00Speaker 5: like this unless you want to, right. Sam Jackson is
- 26:02Speaker 5: not doing it for the check, right, And don Cheeto's
- 26:05Speaker 5: not doing it because he's available. They do it because
- 26:08Speaker 5: they want to work with certain people because it's subject
- 26:10Speaker 5: matter that speaks to them and that is very, very important.
- 26:13Speaker 5: And the other thing, you know, Charlot Mane, you brought
- 26:15Speaker 5: a good point that I want to just hit on
- 26:17Speaker 5: real quick in terms of like the egos and all
- 26:19Speaker 5: of that.
- 26:20Speaker 2: You got to make sure that.
- 26:20Speaker 5: Everybody understands that the ultimate goal is everybody's goals. Because
- 26:25Speaker 5: once people start thinking, Okay, this is for me, and
- 26:27Speaker 5: I got to be focused on my own goal and
- 26:29Speaker 5: not the greater good, then you will never win.
- 26:32Speaker 2: You got to get people to working as a team.
- 26:33Speaker 5: That's why as a producer you're like a coach, you're
- 26:35Speaker 5: like a general manager. You got to get everybody to
- 26:37Speaker 5: understand that their goals aligned with your goals. By the way,
- 26:40Speaker 5: that is true in any industry, not just Hollywood.
- 26:43Speaker 6: But you also need, respectfully, you also need you need
- 26:49Speaker 6: a collaborative figure at the top to say, I'm gonna
- 26:54Speaker 6: make sure that no matter what I'm I'm on a
- 26:57Speaker 6: layer and level where everybody can understand and it we're
- 27:00Speaker 6: all the same, Like I'm not coming into a project
- 27:04Speaker 6: on my dick on the table. For lack of a
- 27:06Speaker 6: better word, I'm not Yeah, y'all know what I am.
- 27:13Speaker 6: I don't do that. I'm saying I'm about the greater
- 27:16Speaker 6: good for all. So I come in head in hand
- 27:19Speaker 6: and I bow down to all talent on the set
- 27:22Speaker 6: because I'm so grateful that the talent is fucking choosing
- 27:26Speaker 6: to do whatever the project is that I'm a part of.
- 27:29Speaker 6: So for Sam Jackson, I bow down. Goddamn legend, you
- 27:34Speaker 6: should get the respect that you deserve. Don Cheetle, I
- 27:36Speaker 6: bow down to Rojjie. I bowed down.
- 27:40Speaker 2: Awkward.
- 27:40Speaker 5: I mean, listen, Pa, Kevin harts down. We call it
- 27:50Speaker 5: down woman, right. She is his right hand, is also
- 27:53Speaker 5: his mistress, and so there is a scene worded better well,
- 27:58Speaker 5: well she's a down one.
- 28:04Speaker 6: What I'm saying is I have no problem with being equal,
- 28:09Speaker 6: and I think, once again I gonna I'm gonna highlight
- 28:11Speaker 6: this as much as I possibly can. That's the version
- 28:15Speaker 6: of the example that I want to get out there.
- 28:18Speaker 6: I want the collaborative side of our culture connecting. I
- 28:21Speaker 6: want us to understand we are so much better together.
- 28:25Speaker 6: I want us to understand the premium factor of us
- 28:28Speaker 6: doing things together is so much better than the individual
- 28:31Speaker 6: trying to be one.
- 28:33Speaker 1: Do you challenge yourself to do things outside of this comedy?
- 28:36Speaker 2: Said, I just don't want this comedic role. I want
- 28:38Speaker 2: this serious role. Do you challenge yourself or do you
- 28:40Speaker 2: just take roles that come?
- 28:41Speaker 6: None of it is a challenge. By the way I'm
- 28:44Speaker 6: developing the things that I do. Nothing is coming to me.
- 28:47Speaker 6: I'm creating the things, or I'm a part of the
- 28:50Speaker 6: process of how it gets to the final stages. I'm
- 28:52Speaker 6: at that point. But I have no desire for the
- 28:56Speaker 6: star of Kevin Hart to get bigger. I don't give
- 28:58Speaker 6: a fuck. That's what's so gone and done with. I'm
- 29:03Speaker 6: more about the success of others, the success of the entity,
- 29:06Speaker 6: the success of the brand, and more importantly, the success
- 29:10Speaker 6: of what we represent and what we can look back
- 29:13Speaker 6: and say we did. That's bigger now than a conversation
- 29:15Speaker 6: of myself. I did it. I'm done. What else am
- 29:18Speaker 6: I going to do at this point?
- 29:20Speaker 2: Go in two minutes?
- 29:21Speaker 4: Actually, we got to get I want to I want
- 29:24Speaker 4: to have both of them to do this well. They're
- 29:26Speaker 4: hard to find someone to play Muhammad Ali And did
- 29:28Speaker 4: you ever consider Will Smith?
- 29:33Speaker 5: Very very challenging, right and I think that you got
- 29:39Speaker 5: to understand.
- 29:40Speaker 2: You know, obviously that's an icon. He's been portrayed before.
- 29:44Speaker 6: Uh.
- 29:44Speaker 5: For us, it was about finding a newcomer that wouldn't
- 29:46Speaker 5: pull you out because these other characters you didn't know.
- 29:49Speaker 5: Nobody knew Chicken Man Kevin Hart's character, or or Vivian
- 29:52Speaker 5: to Right's character, or Frank Moulton. You know Sam's character,
- 29:55Speaker 5: but you know everybody knows Muhammad Ali. So I think
- 29:58Speaker 5: to have somebody in that role who you had some
- 30:00Speaker 5: familiarity with and who you associated with something else would
- 30:03Speaker 5: have pulled you out. And we really wanted to immerse
- 30:06Speaker 5: you even with these big stars. We really wanted to
- 30:07Speaker 5: take you to a time period right fifty years ago
- 30:10Speaker 5: and really drop you in and be as authentic as possible.
- 30:13Speaker 5: And we've paid a lot of attention to the detail
- 30:15Speaker 5: and the nuances to try to get this thing right right. Yeah,
- 30:19Speaker 5: come on, man, this cast and by the way, not
- 30:21Speaker 5: just the big names that you know, like Oh Dexter,
- 30:24Speaker 5: Dark Dexter, You're gonna be hearing a lot from him.
- 30:27Speaker 5: There's some young gunners in this cast that you're gonna
- 30:30Speaker 5: be hearing that I predict you're gonna look back and go. Yo.
- 30:33Speaker 5: Remember when so and so went toe to toed with
- 30:36Speaker 5: with Kevin Hard and Sam Jackson.
- 30:38Speaker 2: Yes, Melvin Gregg, Miles.
- 30:41Speaker 5: Bullet, Koe Bailey does her thing, yet Lloyd Harvey jumps
- 30:45Speaker 5: in the future.
- 30:47Speaker 2: L Yeah. My wife said that.
- 30:49Speaker 3: I was like, I don't think that's Laura, because you
- 30:50Speaker 3: like you look so different.
- 30:55Speaker 6: But I think I think that you're You're singing amazing
- 31:00Speaker 6: example of baton passing. You're you're looking at people that
- 31:03Speaker 6: are established, have been established for so long, and Sam
- 31:07Speaker 6: and Taraji and Terrence and Don and then you also
- 31:12Speaker 6: have the second tear of talent that is a valuable
- 31:15Speaker 6: piece of this puzzle where they're toe to toe with
- 31:18Speaker 6: the big names and you don't blink an eye. You
- 31:22Speaker 6: understand why everybody is there, and you respect the talent
- 31:26Speaker 6: on screen, and you still respect the story. You're never
- 31:28Speaker 6: taken outside of the story. So I think that for
- 31:31Speaker 6: that younger generation that we were able to on board,
- 31:35Speaker 6: it's a great example of what we want to do.
- 31:38Speaker 6: We want to be the example for the next generation,
- 31:42Speaker 6: the bridge. We want to be the example for global
- 31:46Speaker 6: success for or the new star that popped on If
- 31:50Speaker 6: we're part of those stories, how dope is that? Like,
- 31:53Speaker 6: that's the biggest side of the conversation of Once Reese,
- 31:56Speaker 6: celst Jalen Hall.
- 31:57Speaker 2: These are names you're gonna know. I got a zoom zoomy.
- 32:03Speaker 6: I was here. I'll be like you were. You can't mean.
- 32:09Speaker 2: What I'm telling you. This is why I meant. It's
- 32:14Speaker 2: like this actual age to what you're going back on
- 32:19Speaker 2: a big star at age now, Well, I don't know
- 32:23Speaker 2: if you know you don't kick me out of one
- 32:24Speaker 2: of his show, kick you out of you had your phone,
- 32:28Speaker 2: kicked me out.
- 32:28Speaker 1: They threw me out, And as they're throwing me out,
- 32:30Speaker 1: I'm yelling, cav is me because I know what you
- 32:32Speaker 1: can go by.
- 32:34Speaker 6: That's why we should have kicked you out.
- 32:36Speaker 2: Brother.
- 32:36Speaker 3: Come on.
- 32:37Speaker 1: That's the Hampton family and kids, So you know, sometimes
- 32:39Speaker 1: you gotta check your phone to make.
- 32:40Speaker 5: Sure you're good the show you knew. Come on, I
- 32:44Speaker 5: gotta I gotta signe with cave on this brother, Come on, man.
- 32:46Speaker 6: Come into a common show is an intensative environment. And
- 32:49Speaker 6: by the way, my acting my Age tour, it's a
- 32:52Speaker 6: very dope fucking thing going on right now. It's a
- 32:54Speaker 6: premium ticket with a dope experience and in that experience
- 32:57Speaker 6: for an hour and a half. Check out out check
- 33:01Speaker 6: out a lad?
- 33:01Speaker 2: Did you see it was in me? Did you know
- 33:02Speaker 2: it was him? I'm saying.
- 33:06Speaker 6: What I'm saying to you is people people kill me,
- 33:09Speaker 6: like when you act as if rules don't exist for
- 33:11Speaker 6: a dope reason. Phones are a bad experience. Phones are
- 33:15Speaker 6: taking over the intimate appeal of life and lifestyle. Like
- 33:20Speaker 6: your phone has checked you out of every experience you
- 33:23Speaker 6: or the concerts. People watch the concert through their fucking phone.
- 33:27Speaker 6: You're looking at the.
- 33:28Speaker 5: Concert for an artists that's trying to put out new content, right,
- 33:31Speaker 5: and then everybody can just watch it on YouTube.
- 33:33Speaker 2: It totally diminishes respect.
- 33:38Speaker 3: Just like come out.
- 33:41Speaker 6: To put your phones off, you lock them up in
- 33:43Speaker 6: that moment, and you're such a dope sho.
- 33:50Speaker 5: You had that privilege, They had that life scare privilege.
- 33:53Speaker 2: See you thought he was like a me mvy you
- 33:55Speaker 2: did that.
- 33:56Speaker 6: I don't even know what a couple of He's the
- 34:00Speaker 6: lightest envious, right expectation, is one of the lightest operators
- 34:12Speaker 6: of the path.
- 34:13Speaker 2: Sometimes you're like, you're not white, Yeah, yeah, you get confused.
- 34:19Speaker 9: He envy is the guy you believe they're doing.
- 34:33Speaker 7: Monique and Lee Daniels just sit the deliverance. Are we
- 34:36Speaker 7: ever going to see a reconciliation with you and her?
- 34:38Speaker 7: Because she I don't know, I know that there's no problem. No,
- 34:42Speaker 7: but she has said that, like I know when she
- 34:44Speaker 7: was doing club and they talked about it and she
- 34:47Speaker 7: was talking about the phone call that happened from your
- 34:49Speaker 7: team or whatever. Right, is there ever going to be
- 34:52Speaker 7: a conversation that we hear you talk about? Where y'all
- 34:54Speaker 7: to have another conversation about that and move forward.
- 34:56Speaker 6: I'll challenge your question with a better question.
- 34:58Speaker 2: Go ahead.
- 34:58Speaker 6: You hear me talk about anyone? Do you ever hear
- 35:02Speaker 6: anything bad come from me? No? So information can be
- 35:08Speaker 6: one sided. A perception can never be one sided. It's
- 35:11Speaker 6: always a duality. It's it's your side versus another. And
- 35:16Speaker 6: if there's not a common ground, that means that means
- 35:19Speaker 6: one hasn't been attempted to like be met. So there's
- 35:23Speaker 6: no problem between me and Monique, there never will be.
- 35:26Speaker 6: There's no problem between me and anybody else. There's nothing
- 35:28Speaker 6: to reconcile, there's no there's no problem. So all these
- 35:32Speaker 6: problems that have been attached to Kevin Hart, they're one sided.
- 35:36Speaker 6: I don't have a problem with anybody.
- 35:38Speaker 5: I agree with that people right to have a conflict
- 35:42Speaker 5: because that's the reality.
- 35:44Speaker 2: I can tell you that.
- 35:44Speaker 5: Like, there's a perception that like if somebody comes out
- 35:47Speaker 5: and says something that like, you know, me and Kevins
- 35:50Speaker 5: behind the scenes said that we're.
- 35:53Speaker 2: Not doing that. That's what.
- 35:56Speaker 6: Social media has fucked us up to the point of
- 36:00Speaker 6: you hear is what you're forced to believe. Gotcha, you
- 36:03Speaker 6: do not understand? Like the common ground for truth is
- 36:06Speaker 6: always a conversation. And if there ever is a conversation,
- 36:09Speaker 6: do you're not forward facing in a public statement ever,
- 36:13Speaker 6: Like I didn't say anything about what I did or
- 36:16Speaker 6: what I did for Monique or my gestures, you never
- 36:19Speaker 6: would have heard. It's it's a one sided version or
- 36:23Speaker 6: reason for and by the way, i'ven overbuttal to it.
- 36:27Speaker 6: I stand on the side of I'm unproblematic and if
- 36:30Speaker 6: me and Moe want to do or could do or
- 36:33Speaker 6: would do, we will. But that's a me and Mo thing,
- 36:35Speaker 6: like this new thing that people are like, let me
- 36:39Speaker 6: tell you something, world that's like that. I want to
- 36:43Speaker 6: be honest, I'm forty.
- 36:44Speaker 2: Five years old.
- 36:47Speaker 6: By the way, team or not, it's not hard to
- 36:51Speaker 6: fucking find me, like, you know what my schedule is online?
- 36:56Speaker 2: So she hasn't hit you.
- 36:57Speaker 7: Since all of that stuff.
- 36:57Speaker 6: Me and Monique have had com sations, and those are
- 37:00Speaker 6: me and Monique's conversations before and after. That's called adulting.
- 37:05Speaker 6: I don't. I don't unadult So all of these new
- 37:08Speaker 6: ways of conversation and finger pointing, it's very easy. You
- 37:14Speaker 6: know what cortminos in Because I'm gonna say some dope
- 37:17Speaker 6: ship all right, Everybody points to the fucking moon because
- 37:21Speaker 6: nobody knows what it's like to be at the moon
- 37:23Speaker 6: and for the moon to look down. Everybody sees it
- 37:25Speaker 6: this way, but nobody sees it the other. There's only
- 37:28Speaker 6: a couple of people that have been down here and
- 37:31Speaker 6: looked at the moon and said I'm going and went
- 37:33Speaker 6: and looked down from So if you don't stand the
- 37:36Speaker 6: version of eyesight from both sides, but then you're near side,
- 37:40Speaker 6: you got you got one vision. I don't have tunnel vision.
- 37:44Speaker 6: I have an equal vision of understanding. But if you
- 37:46Speaker 6: can't understand the moon side, how do you speak as
- 37:51Speaker 6: if you do? That's not that's not life, that's not adulting.
- 37:56Speaker 3: So I've they.
- 38:14Speaker 6: Don't even fucking how many astronauts that have walked on
- 38:17Speaker 6: the moon. But everybody speaks if they know what the
- 38:19Speaker 6: is on the move. Everybody talks like they know it's
- 38:21Speaker 6: up there. You don't know what's up there. You never
- 38:23Speaker 6: walked up there. You don't know what it's like to
- 38:26Speaker 6: be up there and look down and see what Earth
- 38:28Speaker 6: is like from there. So it's only a couple of
- 38:30Speaker 6: people that do. When you are on a different side
- 38:33Speaker 6: of life and you speak to those that are on
- 38:35Speaker 6: that side, is if you know what they're doing or
- 38:37Speaker 6: why they did it, you're one sided. You can't speak
- 38:42Speaker 6: on my fucking reasons as if you know what my
- 38:45Speaker 6: reasons are for, you can't speak on my business choice,
- 38:48Speaker 6: my business choices, professional choices, more importantly, lifestyle choices, if
- 38:53Speaker 6: you don't know what the fuck my life is.
- 38:55Speaker 4: But you know, that's what I like about the movie
- 38:56Speaker 4: Fighting That right, because it seems like they show each
- 38:59Speaker 4: character in the movie as a hero in their own story,
- 39:01Speaker 4: but a villain in somebody else's.
- 39:05Speaker 5: It's a super complicated narrative, which are my favorite kinds
- 39:09Speaker 5: because you're protagonist, right, Your quote unquote heroes are very
- 39:13Speaker 5: gray and are very flawed like in real life, and
- 39:16Speaker 5: you're antagonists are people that you root for. Those are
- 39:19Speaker 5: my favorite kinds of narratives. I love that because we
- 39:22Speaker 5: all know the world is not black and white, right,
- 39:24Speaker 5: and so you're absolutely right, it's about complex people at
- 39:27Speaker 5: a complex time.
- 39:29Speaker 2: And that's really what the show was.
- 39:30Speaker 6: What a successful Now before you do that, I just
- 39:34Speaker 6: want the world to get to a better place of understanding, Like,
- 39:38Speaker 6: stop taking the bait. It's bait. Bait is unnecessary. Like
- 39:45Speaker 6: if people really have problems, they talk amongst themselves, there
- 39:48Speaker 6: are no conversations among themselves, then it's not real problems.
- 39:51Speaker 2: Yeah, that simple.
- 39:53Speaker 5: No, Kevin's right, I mean, and Kevin's big and a
- 39:55Speaker 5: lot of us are on real interactions, you know what
- 39:57Speaker 5: I mean.
- 39:57Speaker 2: And you got a lot of people out there right now.
- 39:59Speaker 2: They're trying to win the internet.
- 40:00Speaker 5: You know.
- 40:01Speaker 2: I just when when.
- 40:02Speaker 5: The Internet, I got the most clicks, I got the
- 40:03Speaker 5: most likes, and you know, let's win real life.
- 40:06Speaker 2: Let's focus on real things.
- 40:08Speaker 5: So whatever conversation he may have, I may have, somebody
- 40:10Speaker 5: else may have, and it doesn't have to be for this.
- 40:13Speaker 2: You told me a while ago, he said, and you
- 40:14Speaker 2: shut the fuck up.
- 40:15Speaker 6: Well, I'll tell you a lot.
- 40:26Speaker 2: I don't.
- 40:29Speaker 6: I told you that because he's like, you're explaining yourself
- 40:33Speaker 6: to who?
- 40:34Speaker 2: Like?
- 40:34Speaker 6: Who listened? By the way, is like, who are you
- 40:37Speaker 6: talking to? Like when you there's nothing that annoys me
- 40:40Speaker 6: more when people do this right here, everybody's been asking,
- 40:45Speaker 6: so let me go. I'm saying the order you get.
- 40:58Speaker 6: You started to realize, man.
- 41:02Speaker 5: Box that matters, and we obsessed on the negative. I
- 41:06Speaker 5: hate to say that, but you'll be you post something
- 41:09Speaker 5: and get one hundred positive comments.
- 41:11Speaker 2: Man, you walking down you look good, but.
- 41:13Speaker 5: It'd be three people that'll say something sideways and no,
- 41:17Speaker 5: be's the one. Those will be the ones that you
- 41:19Speaker 5: respond to, that you obsess over, that you focus on, right,
- 41:23Speaker 5: not the other one.
- 41:24Speaker 6: It's not a bigger supporter for the movement of people
- 41:28Speaker 6: doing good shit and Monique Lee Daniels reconciling that relationship. However,
- 41:34Speaker 6: it happened Great Dope for them, did a movie together
- 41:37Speaker 6: after great story Dope for them. I want to see
- 41:41Speaker 6: more keep doing great ship. The conversation of anything else
- 41:45Speaker 6: negative attached to a person's and their reservations of feelings.
- 41:48Speaker 6: To me, I want to see nothing but good for all,
- 41:51Speaker 6: Like I would love to see us all win. I
- 41:53Speaker 6: would love to see us all at the table where
- 41:55Speaker 6: we all can do. If it happens great. If it doesn't,
- 41:58Speaker 6: I guess it wasn't meant to be. But you can't
- 42:01Speaker 6: have a fucking stance of negativity and like also like
- 42:07Speaker 6: a real fucking initiative to move forward and like motivate, inspire, create,
- 42:13Speaker 6: or do whatever. You can't be both. So it's either
- 42:16Speaker 6: like you're one or the other. And if you are
- 42:17Speaker 6: a part of creativity, inspiration, collaboration, motivation, connectivity, then that
- 42:26Speaker 6: has to be it. And whatever you gather along the way,
- 42:29Speaker 6: and whoever you align yourself with along the way, well
- 42:32Speaker 6: y'all all a part of the same story. If things
- 42:34Speaker 6: fall apart through the duration of it wasn't meant to be.
- 42:38Speaker 6: On that train. Some people miss a train. It's just life.
- 42:42Speaker 6: Some people don't make it and time to catch the train.
- 42:46Speaker 6: And the train that's gonna go is.
- 42:47Speaker 2: Going to go.
- 42:48Speaker 6: Why do you think trains can't stop fast? They're moving.
- 42:52Speaker 6: So either you're on the train, but you're not. And
- 42:56Speaker 6: if you didn't catch the next train, that's life.
- 42:58Speaker 5: Feel like we went back to the moon because it
- 43:00Speaker 5: was something about my guy, my guy, you want to
- 43:03Speaker 5: talk about some impressive words.
- 43:05Speaker 1: Got Kevin put some words on what makes it successful?
- 43:11Speaker 1: Because you know, Hollywood and changed before was blockbuster movies,
- 43:14Speaker 1: but now, I mean, there's so many other platforms to
- 43:16Speaker 1: put your movie on. So what is successful for?
- 43:19Speaker 5: But you know there's still quant quantitative metrics that they
- 43:22Speaker 5: use to determine quantitative learn that should you brother just just.
- 43:30Speaker 2: What is it? Uh?
- 43:31Speaker 5: Because reality is that you still have ways that you
- 43:34Speaker 5: can determine how, you know, how many people watched it,
- 43:37Speaker 5: if the audience was into it, if they were engaged,
- 43:39Speaker 5: and that stuff is important and so that is definitely
- 43:42Speaker 5: a part of what we do.
- 43:44Speaker 2: Honestly though right now it's about I just want people to.
- 43:47Speaker 5: Feel stuff, you know what I mean. I want to
- 43:49Speaker 5: feel like we're touching the culture, you know. I want
- 43:50Speaker 5: to feel like whatever it is that we do, we
- 43:53Speaker 5: don't have people feel like we wasted their time.
- 43:55Speaker 2: That's that's the point that.
- 43:56Speaker 3: We have.
- 43:58Speaker 2: Got to get it. We gotta get Do you have
- 44:01Speaker 2: colors you like to use?
- 44:02Speaker 3: Asklee Daniels as a producer.
- 44:04Speaker 4: And when I say colors, I mean like artists are
- 44:06Speaker 4: there's certain artists you like to use because they're like
- 44:08Speaker 4: you amused.
- 44:08Speaker 6: They help you paint the picture.
- 44:10Speaker 2: That you would use within it within a piece.
- 44:15Speaker 3: Film.
- 44:15Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think that. Well, obviously is the director.
- 44:20Speaker 5: I'm a producer. Yeah, absolutely, I think that set the
- 44:26Speaker 5: mood and the theme thematically. It's very important to have,
- 44:30Speaker 5: first of all, everybody be on the same page about
- 44:32Speaker 5: what the vision is going to be right, and also
- 44:34Speaker 5: to make sure that the ultimate vision fits the execution
- 44:39Speaker 5: and so you know, like, for instance, we wanted it
- 44:42Speaker 5: to look a certain way right light.
- 44:50Speaker 10: You know, No, you ain't gotta break it down because Kevin,
- 45:01Speaker 10: they coming in here to drag your ass.
- 45:04Speaker 6: Yeah, we're done, We're good.
- 45:06Speaker 2: We appreciate it. Real talk. We appreciate y'all like real talk.
- 45:09Speaker 2: We appreciate you. The malleability that that's another word, that malleability.
- 45:13Speaker 5: What it means that they were flexible, that they worked
- 45:15Speaker 5: with us, they weren't rigid.
- 45:19Speaker 6: Well, I'll tell you what. The HBCUs that you both
- 45:22Speaker 6: went to are better without you this inclusion.
- 45:30Speaker 2: Inclusion.
- 45:31Speaker 6: The big takeaways for audience are very simple, man. The
- 45:35Speaker 6: first one, of course, is Fight Night now now streaming
- 45:39Speaker 6: on Peacock. Do yourself a service and us a favor,
- 45:42Speaker 6: go watch it. A very good fucking show, an amazing
- 45:47Speaker 6: story that I think should have been told a long
- 45:50Speaker 6: time ago, but for the city of Atlanta that we
- 45:52Speaker 6: all know in love is a great highlight of how
- 45:55Speaker 6: Atlanta got to be what it is now. Fact, understanding
- 45:57Speaker 6: the early stages of it, understanding the origin for us all,
- 46:01Speaker 6: especially people of color culture, we need to know. It's
- 46:04Speaker 6: a great story.
- 46:05Speaker 5: Eight parts eight part limits is three parts out right
- 46:09Speaker 5: now dropping one per week.
- 46:11Speaker 2: If you're like a lot of us, you're looking for what's.
- 46:13Speaker 5: That next series I can really get into and really
- 46:15Speaker 5: get into the characters and follow it.
- 46:17Speaker 2: We're challenging you. Let this be a next series.
- 46:20Speaker 6: I would say, that's that's thing one, Thing two Yo,
- 46:25Speaker 6: God's collaboration, egos, et cetera. Ask yourself, what version are you?
- 46:31Speaker 6: What side are you on? Are you on the side
- 46:33Speaker 6: of that? Are you on the side of this? Pick one?
- 46:36Speaker 6: Pick one and be that or identify what you are
- 46:39Speaker 6: and make a change right the other side. Hey man,
- 46:41Speaker 6: this internet shit is getting out of control. It's fucking
- 46:45Speaker 6: like it's out of control, just from an understanding of
- 46:48Speaker 6: real versus not real reality and like false reality. Ask
- 46:54Speaker 6: yourself which version. Are you on? Are you clickbait? Are
- 46:58Speaker 6: you fucking real your relationships? There's real communication. Without that,
- 47:04Speaker 6: nothing else matters, Nothing else matters. I didn't fucking not
- 47:08Speaker 6: tell them to contact or not do Hey, man, I'm
- 47:11Speaker 6: gonna push you back. I'm fucked up. The false communication
- 47:15Speaker 6: would be I can't man, just do whatever. You figure
- 47:18Speaker 6: out what it is and what and then the relationship
- 47:21Speaker 6: kind of falls apart based off of an idea that
- 47:23Speaker 6: you are giving yourself a moment to create. Stop it.
- 47:27Speaker 6: Let's get back to a place of understanding relationships. Relationship.
- 47:32Speaker 6: It's my fucking brother, and I love the fact that
- 47:35Speaker 6: me and my brother are great examples of what dope
- 47:37Speaker 6: relationships should be. We will continue to do what we do,
- 47:40Speaker 6: and we'll do it at a high level. And I
- 47:42Speaker 6: can't wait for the world to see not only this,
- 47:46Speaker 6: but what the things in the future will be.
- 47:47Speaker 5: Bam, I want you to go. That's the last thing
- 47:52Speaker 5: I was saying. I tell you to vote for but
- 47:54Speaker 5: we will be remissive. We didn't get on this platform
- 47:55Speaker 5: and say that is real. It's real, and these are
- 47:58Speaker 5: challenging time to make your voice heard one way or another,
- 48:00Speaker 5: it matters. You can tell me you kamalaer, I'm no
- 48:04Speaker 5: question I appreciate that black man because we need more
- 48:07Speaker 5: of us saying that.
- 48:08Speaker 2: But that's my choice, that's what I choose to do.
- 48:10Speaker 2: I need everybody's publishing my shoes to start cleaning up.
- 48:24Speaker 2: But you would agree with the poort the vote right
- 48:25Speaker 2: would like I'll say, sig go they pulling me out here. Well,
- 48:32Speaker 2: thank you, family, appreciate you'all. It's the Breakfast Club. Wake
- 48:36Speaker 2: that answer in the morning.
- 48:38Speaker 3: The Breakfast Club