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#699: Contention · Zion Word Ministries International Podcast

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SPEAKER_00: Prepare your heart.
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SPEAKER_00: Faith.
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SPEAKER_01: Romans chapter 8 and verse 7.
0:36
SPEAKER_01: Praise the Lord.
0:41
SPEAKER_01: Because the carnal mind is enity against God, it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
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SPEAKER_01: It's not subject to the law of the spirit.
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SPEAKER_01: Now talking Ten Commandments here.
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SPEAKER_01: There are two laws or major rules in grace, and that is the law of the Spirit, the law of sin and death.
1:03
SPEAKER_01: You're in one or the other.
1:04
SPEAKER_01: That's it.
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SPEAKER_01: Neither indeed can be.
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SPEAKER_01: So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
1:12
SPEAKER_01: They that be in the flesh cannot please God.
1:16
SPEAKER_01: Father, I honor your word today, and may it have be the final authority as it really is in Jesus' name.
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SPEAKER_01: And everybody said, Amen.
1:23
SPEAKER_01: You see, most of the Bible, if not all the Bible, is written to believers.
1:31
SPEAKER_01: Now, nonbelievers can have access to the scripture, but they can't understand it until they're born again.
1:38
SPEAKER_01: And even then, it's a process that we go through.
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SPEAKER_01: Being filled with the Spirit certainly helps because it clarifies some things that we struggle with, because He is the teacher.
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SPEAKER_01: Amen.
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SPEAKER_01: But I'll tell you, Paul was writing, and he said, They that have been in the flesh cannot please God.
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SPEAKER_01: So he's talking to believers getting over into the flesh, and those believers cannot please God.
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SPEAKER_01: Now, what does it mean?
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SPEAKER_01: Well, it's the old animal nature that's in human beings.
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SPEAKER_01: And I really call it a beast.
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SPEAKER_01: Because actually, the nature of man is beastly.
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SPEAKER_01: Get it?
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SPEAKER_01: Mark of the beast, 666, never be seven.
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SPEAKER_01: Six is man's number, God is God's number.
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SPEAKER_01: And so man will never be God.
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SPEAKER_01: But there is a beast system in the human beings that must be crucified.
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SPEAKER_01: And sad to say, it's still evident in believers today, or Paul would not have wrote this.
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SPEAKER_01: All of the writings of the New Testament is for a reason.
2:54
SPEAKER_01: To help believers stay on the straight and natural, straight and narrow way and make heaven their home when it's all said and done.
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SPEAKER_01: Unfortunately, we have those that are hard-headed, rebellious, stiff-necked, and will not listen to sound doctrine.
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SPEAKER_01: And therefore, God must chastise sooner or later.
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SPEAKER_01: And the preacher gets to blame for it.
3:19
SPEAKER_01: Hey, I didn't write the Bible.
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SPEAKER_01: God, Holy Spirit, is the one that pinned the scripture.
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SPEAKER_01: Because the Bible says in 2 Timothy 3.16, now you all know this.
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SPEAKER_01: Amen.
3:35
SPEAKER_01: All scripture that's old and new testament is inspired of Theos, God.
3:42
SPEAKER_01: And is profitable for what?
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SPEAKER_01: Number one, say it with me.
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SPEAKER_01: Doctrine.
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SPEAKER_01: That's sound teachings.
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SPEAKER_01: Number two, reproof.
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SPEAKER_01: Reproof.
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SPEAKER_01: Correction.
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SPEAKER_01: Instruction.
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SPEAKER_01: In righteousness.
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SPEAKER_01: In other words, when we yield to these aspects of doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction, we will be walking in the righteousness of God.
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SPEAKER_01: Now don't misunderstand me.
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SPEAKER_01: We're made righteous through the blood of the Lamb, but then there's a process we go through that helps us to understand what happened at conversion.
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SPEAKER_01: And we need, I said we need sound doctrine.
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SPEAKER_01: We need reproof sometimes.
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SPEAKER_01: We need correction.
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SPEAKER_01: And if you rebel against that, you're in the flesh.
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SPEAKER_01: And we need to be instructed in the ways of the Lord.
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SPEAKER_01: Now you may not like it, but the beast nature does not like anything that's spiritual because there's a war between the spirit and the flesh, and every one of us knows what we're talking about.
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SPEAKER_01: Then we go to Proverbs 22.10.
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SPEAKER_01: Amen.
5:04
SPEAKER_01: What happened to the shout now?
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SPEAKER_01: Proverbs 22.10.
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SPEAKER_01: All scripture.
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SPEAKER_01: It's all good.
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SPEAKER_01: But it's not so good if people are on the wrong side of the fence.
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SPEAKER_01: It's not so good if Christians are in the flesh.
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SPEAKER_01: And then they're gonna get a problem with the Lord.
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SPEAKER_01: So I know how it works after 40 years.
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SPEAKER_01: People get something stuck in their craw like a cull chicken.
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SPEAKER_01: And then they move toward the back, and no one, nobody's on the back seat today, so that's we're doing good.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: And then they begin to fall away from community uh church attendance, become too spasmodic, and then they quit tithing, and then they're out the door, and there's not one thing I can do about it except preach.
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SPEAKER_01: Because I've learned people are gonna do what they want.
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SPEAKER_01: When you go to Africa, they walk 20 miles to church, and they're not gonna leave until they hear from God and receive from God.
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SPEAKER_01: That's it.
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SPEAKER_01: They won't stop, they won't give in, they won't fall away from the desires in Christ like Americans.
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SPEAKER_01: Proverbs 22, 10, cast out the scorner, and this is tough.
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SPEAKER_01: We're talking about church government here.
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SPEAKER_01: Cast out the scorner, and contentions shall go out.
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SPEAKER_01: Aha! You know, you can't control a gossip in spirit, you can never find the origin, you just have to quit carrying it yourself and blabbing yourself about it.
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SPEAKER_01: Sister Sal said this, Brother Munia said that.
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SPEAKER_01: That doesn't make a hill of menace what they said.
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SPEAKER_01: You need to get the firsthand information are you gossiping?
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SPEAKER_01: Cast out the scorn of contention shall go out.
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SPEAKER_01: One thing I don't like is contention in the church.
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SPEAKER_01: Do I know anything about it?
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SPEAKER_01: I feel it.
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SPEAKER_01: The pastor knows.
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SPEAKER_01: Strife and reproach shall cease.
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SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Lord Jesus.
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SPEAKER_01: Strife and reproach shall cease.
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SPEAKER_01: When you cast a scorner out.
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SPEAKER_01: Is that too tough for you, Christian that's?
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SPEAKER_01: Well, that's what the Bible says, and God's the one that wrote it.
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SPEAKER_01: We're talking about church government here.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, there's qualifications that stay right with God.
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SPEAKER_01: And if we rebel against that, if you rebel against the decisions of your pastor, what's from the Word of God, you have a rebellious spirit.
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SPEAKER_01: Now you're in trouble.
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SPEAKER_01: Say amen, Yon.
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SPEAKER_01: You're going down to Africa where they're really preaching hack around down there, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: This is tough.
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SPEAKER_01: And we're all thinking about somebody else, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: Sometimes we need to go look in the mirror and quit shifting the blame and say it's me, all Lord, standing in need of prayer.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm the one that needs to be changed.
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SPEAKER_01: It's always somebody else.
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SPEAKER_01: You're carnal.
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SPEAKER_01: Titus 3.10.
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SPEAKER_01: Did I read Romans 8 and verse 7 and 8?
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SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_01: I forgot.
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SPEAKER_01: Little age sitting in here.
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SPEAKER_01: Titus 3.10, a man that is a heretic after the first and second admonition, reject.
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SPEAKER_01: If I have to come to you and correct, I don't like it, but that's my calling also.
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SPEAKER_01: And then if there's repentance, hey, everything's great.
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SPEAKER_01: But if I have to come a second time.
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SPEAKER_01: And there's no change in you, then you are to be rejected.
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SPEAKER_01: You go to Matthew's gospel where Jesus is saying, if any has a quarrel, go to him and you know, work it out.
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SPEAKER_01: Hey, can't we sit down and drink some coffee and talk this thing out?
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SPEAKER_01: If you holy people, can you drink some unsweet tea or something?
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SPEAKER_01: And if you that don't work, then you take another one with you and you go and try again.
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SPEAKER_01: If that don't work, you take it to the church.
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SPEAKER_01: And if that don't work, out.
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SPEAKER_01: Titus 3 10 and then verse 11.
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SPEAKER_01: Good thing I'm not preaching tonight.
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SPEAKER_01: Knowing that he that is such is submerged and sinneth, being condemned of himself.
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SPEAKER_01: You condemn yourself when you're constantly having to be corrected.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, he made you a ruler and a judge.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't judge people.
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SPEAKER_01: You condemn yourself by the things that you allow.
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SPEAKER_01: But I'm here to remind you of the consequences of what you do or do not do, what you believe and do not believe.
10:54
SPEAKER_01: If we want revival in this country, we've got to get under fire for God and get it straightened out with the Word of God.
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SPEAKER_01: If you don't like this church, find another one.
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unknown: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_01: You'll be hard-pressed to find one that preached like this, like that did back in the wholeness days.
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SPEAKER_01: And I don't preach rough.
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SPEAKER_01: Many of you say I don't preach rough enough.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, I just give what God gives me the way He wants it given.
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SPEAKER_01: And today it's whole in the garden time.
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SPEAKER_01: I'll tell you.
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SPEAKER_01: A scorner.
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SPEAKER_01: What is a scorner?
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SPEAKER_01: Did I read Proverbs 22 10?
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SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to get settled in here and be nice, but it's not working.
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SPEAKER_01: Proverbs 22.10, did I go to that one?
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SPEAKER_01: Well, let me look at it again here.
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SPEAKER_01: Proverbs 2010 says, Cast out the scorner.
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SPEAKER_01: What's a scorner?
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SPEAKER_01: Someone that mocks and scoffs, that's a scorner.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, them holy rollers.
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SPEAKER_01: Don't they see how great I am?
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, I see how great you are.
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SPEAKER_01: You're about that big in the eyes of God when you're a scorner.
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SPEAKER_01: And then contention, which is strife, quarreling, and discord.
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SPEAKER_01: Let that not be named among any of you Zyneword Christians here.
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SPEAKER_01: Lest God chastises you severely.
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SPEAKER_01: He chastises the ones he loves.
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SPEAKER_01: And if we want to straighten up, he'll help us straighten up.
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SPEAKER_01: It won't be nice.
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SPEAKER_01: Then blame the preacher for it.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, when judgment day comes, we'll see who gets the blame.
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SPEAKER_01: And then strife.
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SPEAKER_01: Say strife.
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SPEAKER_01: Now, strife comes from a wrong spirit that some people carry around and call themselves a Christian.
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SPEAKER_01: What happened to be a new creation in Christ Jesus?
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SPEAKER_01: Old things passed away.
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SPEAKER_01: All things become new.
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SPEAKER_01: What happened to that aspect of Christianity?
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SPEAKER_01: Well, it was the way I was raised.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, you get over it.
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SPEAKER_01: All of us have been in a school of hard knocks.
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SPEAKER_01: Where do you think wisdom and stamina comes from anyway?
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SPEAKER_01: I tolerate a lot of things, but sooner or later I'm gonna blow.
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unknown: That's right.
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SPEAKER_01: Who are you talking to?
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SPEAKER_01: If the shoe fits word, do they preach this way down there on Mississippi, Fred?
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SPEAKER_01: Wherever you're from, Florida, down there to get sand in their shoes, you know, and everything's fine down there.
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SPEAKER_01: Come up here and Satan fights us 24-7.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, I've learned this.
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SPEAKER_01: A pastor must pastor the sheep, or the sheep will pastor the pastor.
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SPEAKER_01: And you're not gonna work with me.
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SPEAKER_01: When I make a decision from God, that's the way it is.
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SPEAKER_01: Amen.
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SPEAKER_01: That's the way it is.
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SPEAKER_01: Reproach.
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SPEAKER_01: Strife is judgmental.
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SPEAKER_01: And when you start usurping authority over decisions of the pastor, you got a problem.
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SPEAKER_01: Big problem.
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SPEAKER_01: And then reproach, that means to dishonor and cause confusion.
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SPEAKER_01: Reproach.
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SPEAKER_01: To dishonor.
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SPEAKER_01: Forty years of ministry, nobody's ever blamed one thing on me.
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SPEAKER_01: Not one.
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SPEAKER_01: Because I fear God more than what you think.
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SPEAKER_01: I fear God more than what you think about me.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a good thing I'm not getting a vote today because I wouldn't get any votes at all.
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SPEAKER_01: I never have been voted, never ever been hired, I've never been hired.
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SPEAKER_01: So if I haven't been voted in, I guess I can't be voted out.
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SPEAKER_01: Listen, I've tried to throw the towel in, but God throws it back to me.
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SPEAKER_01: Praise God.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, let's look at 1 Corinthians 3 3.
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SPEAKER_01: Can we do that today?
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SPEAKER_01: I'm looking forward to some stew this afternoon.
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SPEAKER_01: I need help.
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SPEAKER_01: You know when we get into these messes like I'm in right now, you go to food for help, right, Danny?
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SPEAKER_01: Comfort food.
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SPEAKER_01: There is no comfort food for this for the cross you carry in the ministry.
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SPEAKER_01: You can't, I don't expect you to understand, but I'll tell you what, there was a war going on for your soul, and I gotta watch for your soul until you're out the door and tell me to go to Hades.
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SPEAKER_01: Then I'm done.
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SPEAKER_01: Find another undercepher that'll watch over your soul.
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SPEAKER_01: 1 Corinthians 3, 3.
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SPEAKER_01: Are you yet carnal?
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SPEAKER_01: For as there is among you envy.
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SPEAKER_01: You know anybody, you ever envy something?
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SPEAKER_01: And strife?
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SPEAKER_01: Say strife.
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SPEAKER_01: He's talking to the church.
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SPEAKER_01: God help us all.
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SPEAKER_01: And division.
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SPEAKER_01: You're not, are you not carnal and walk as men?
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SPEAKER_01: In other words, as you walk in the old nature.
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SPEAKER_01: Listen, saints, people that have these qualities are backslid as a goose.
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SPEAKER_01: Backslid.
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SPEAKER_01: Now, how far God will let you backslide, I don't know, but you're there's still a heaven and a hell, and God can blot your name out of the book if you step over the line.
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SPEAKER_01: There's no such thing as eternal security.
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SPEAKER_01: There's conditions to it.
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SPEAKER_01: James 3.16.
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SPEAKER_01: That troublemaker James in the New Testament here.
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SPEAKER_01: Sorry, James.
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SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
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SPEAKER_01: Not talking about you.
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SPEAKER_01: It could be.
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SPEAKER_01: No, you were not reincarnated.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry.
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SPEAKER_01: No such saying it's reincarnation.
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SPEAKER_01: First Corinthians 3.3.
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SPEAKER_01: You see, it really doesn't matter what any of you think.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't have to prove anything to anybody.
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SPEAKER_01: Amen.
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SPEAKER_01: For where envy and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.
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SPEAKER_01: God help us all.
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SPEAKER_01: Are you saying it's here?
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SPEAKER_01: I'm saying I feel it.
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SPEAKER_01: And it will be nipped in the bud.
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SPEAKER_01: Speedily.
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SPEAKER_01: It's almost like concealed cura.
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SPEAKER_01: You're here to protect the flock from the danger.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, am I barking okay today?
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SPEAKER_01: The watchman's running on the wall.
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SPEAKER_01: And if he don't sound off, he's good for nothing.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't like wrong spirits trying to get into the church.
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SPEAKER_01: And it comes through envy and strife and confusion.
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SPEAKER_01: And what's even worse about this, are you Christians listening to me?
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SPEAKER_01: What's worse about this?
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SPEAKER_01: Every evil work is going on behind the curtain.
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SPEAKER_01: Every evil work.
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SPEAKER_01: All of it.
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SPEAKER_01: Then we're going to come and crawl up around and praise God on a Sunday morning when we're living this way.
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SPEAKER_01: It won't work.
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SPEAKER_01: God won't accept it.
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SPEAKER_01: You're in the flesh.
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SPEAKER_01: I like it to be quiet.
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SPEAKER_01: I want you to think about it.
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SPEAKER_01: Thinking, I'm not joking.
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SPEAKER_01: So, what's God going to do about these probable problems that we have in the congregation?
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SPEAKER_01: What's God going to do about it?
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SPEAKER_01: Well, I have a choice as a pastor.
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SPEAKER_01: I let it go, and hopefully things will fix itself.
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SPEAKER_01: And John, it rarely works that way.
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SPEAKER_01: Rarely.
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SPEAKER_01: You remember when you went to that guy on the honky tonk and tried to get him out?
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SPEAKER_01: And you said passion was the biggest mistake you ever made in your life.
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SPEAKER_01: I can identify with that.
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SPEAKER_01: But I have multi, multifaceted ministry gifts.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, why are you going overseas for?
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SPEAKER_01: Well, because God told me to.
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SPEAKER_01: 24 times.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, we need to be evangelized here.
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SPEAKER_01: What are you doing?
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unknown: Come on, that's right.
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unknown: Amen.
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unknown: That's my enemy.
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SPEAKER_01: We've evangelized here for 35 years, right here.
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SPEAKER_01: And you're saying we're not doing our part?
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SPEAKER_01: You're carnal.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm glad the offering's already taken.
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SPEAKER_01: Here's the deal.
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SPEAKER_01: I'll do what God tells me, no matter what you think.
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SPEAKER_01: That's the way that it is, everybody.
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unknown: That's right.
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SPEAKER_01: Because judgment day is coming.
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SPEAKER_01: And you're either going to support the outreach work or you're going to rebel against it.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm saying there's souls in the balance, and we need to get straightened up here and get on fire for God and evangelize.
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SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying.
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SPEAKER_00: We'll be right back.
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SPEAKER_00: But first, we want to take a moment to think about sign words.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Now, let's get back to the powerful message with Dr.
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SPEAKER_00: Randy Day.
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SPEAKER_01: James 3.16.
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SPEAKER_01: Envy and strife, there comes confusion in every evil work.
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SPEAKER_01: That word strife, I don't like that.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's defined as a desire to put oneself forward.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, you just don't realize how great I am.
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SPEAKER_01: Now I realize high self-esteem has got to be crucified.
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SPEAKER_01: Low self-esteem is where it's at.
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SPEAKER_01: Many people leave the church because I don't realize how great they are.
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SPEAKER_01: It's true.
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SPEAKER_01: I realize how carnal you are in thinking that way.
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SPEAKER_01: If God's put a gift in you, you'll do it.
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SPEAKER_01: Too many people do something that God wants them to do in the kingdom, and then they quit after a while, and now somebody else takes your place.
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SPEAKER_01: This is not good.
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SPEAKER_01: Strife.
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SPEAKER_01: Fractions, spirit, full of disagreement.
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SPEAKER_01: You know anybody that disagrees with the ministry of this church?
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SPEAKER_01: Huh?
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SPEAKER_01: Show me one place where we're doctrinally off.
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SPEAKER_01: A person that has a spirit of strife causes tension.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm gonna feel the tension right about now.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm not laughing.
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SPEAKER_01: Because the prophet can stomp down and cut out.
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SPEAKER_01: But also add two.
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SPEAKER_01: What's going on?
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SPEAKER_01: God knows everything about everyone.
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SPEAKER_01: You know anybody anybody's full of disagreement and tension, unruly, irritable?
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SPEAKER_01: You know anybody that's rebellious?
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SPEAKER_01: How about argumentative, self-willed, self-opinionated?
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SPEAKER_01: It doesn't matter what your self-opinions are.
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SPEAKER_01: Everybody has a couple of them, like elbows.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't care about your opinions.
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SPEAKER_01: What's God gonna do about it?
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SPEAKER_01: Well, John chapter 15, Jesus tells us what God's gonna do about it because he does love us all.
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SPEAKER_01: And sometimes we're just not lovable.
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SPEAKER_01: And I gotta admit to you, believers, there are some people I just don't love.
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SPEAKER_01: I like them a lot.
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SPEAKER_01: We're supposed to love.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, I know.
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SPEAKER_01: But sometimes people just get on my nerves.
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SPEAKER_01: So I take volume three times a day.
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SPEAKER_01: No, not really.
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SPEAKER_01: This is what the Lord's gonna do.
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SPEAKER_01: If you're safe, this is what he's gonna do.
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SPEAKER_01: 1 Corinthians 15, I mean, first uh, excuse me, St.
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SPEAKER_01: John 15 and verse 2.
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SPEAKER_01: See, Satan doesn't want me to bring this reproof and correction and instruction to you and those who's listening, but he can't stop it.
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SPEAKER_01: He just hinders.
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SPEAKER_01: Every branch in me, are you in Christ or not?
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SPEAKER_01: Answer.
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SPEAKER_01: Answer.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes or no?
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SPEAKER_01: Then if a branch in me that bears not fruit, he takes it away.
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SPEAKER_01: Every branch that bears fruit, he purges it that it may bring forth more fruit.
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SPEAKER_01: So right now the Holy Spirit is purging in this manner.
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SPEAKER_01: He's cutting off the old rotten twig leaves and branches, so the Holy Spirit can produce fruit in our lives.
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SPEAKER_01: Then in verse 3, you're clean to the words that I've spoken unto you.
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SPEAKER_01: We'll go down to verse 6, please, Valley and then.
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SPEAKER_01: If a man abides not in me, so believers can abide in Christ, or they can abide not in Christ, which is the flesh.
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SPEAKER_01: He is cast forth as a branch and withered and gathered and men gather them and they cast into the fire and they're burned.
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SPEAKER_01: That's pretty bad.
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SPEAKER_01: It doesn't sound like one saved always saved to me.
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SPEAKER_01: And how do we produce this fruit for the Lord?
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SPEAKER_01: Flesh cannot do it.
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SPEAKER_01: It's spirit.
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SPEAKER_01: And the only way fruit will increase in our lives is to develop a relationship for God that loves God.
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SPEAKER_01: You see, that's the first and great commandment right there.
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SPEAKER_01: To love the Lord thy God, all your heart and mind and soul, strengthening neighbors yourself.
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SPEAKER_01: This is the first and great commandment.
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SPEAKER_01: Fear God to keep his commandments, Solomon said.
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SPEAKER_01: His commandments, John said, are not grievous.
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SPEAKER_01: What are the commandments?
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SPEAKER_01: Whatever he tells you to do that is scriptural, that is your commandment.
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SPEAKER_01: And the main commandment, listen, is love one another.
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SPEAKER_01: Not possible without the Holy Spirit.
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SPEAKER_01: And I remind you, church, you gotta love me.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, you love me when things the Holy Spirit's moving and you're being slayed in the Spirit and things are happening.
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SPEAKER_01: But when I'm hoeing the garden, you don't love me.
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SPEAKER_01: Whose garden you're hoeing?
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SPEAKER_01: You judge.
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SPEAKER_01: So in John chapter 13, then, John, this is the last message you'll hear from me for a while.
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SPEAKER_01: But when I come to Africa, it'll be better.
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SPEAKER_01: Look at John 15 and verse 2, then.
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SPEAKER_01: St.
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SPEAKER_01: John 13.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm having trouble today.
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SPEAKER_01: Drop down to verse uh 34.
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SPEAKER_01: I'll get it right.
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SPEAKER_01: A new commandment I give to you that you love one another.
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SPEAKER_01: This is it.
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SPEAKER_01: And you know, when you read 1 Corinthians, well, we might get that before we close down here.
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SPEAKER_01: A new commandment I give to you that you love one another.
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SPEAKER_01: Now, this is godly love.
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SPEAKER_01: It's not sensual, devilish, carnal love, brotherly love.
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SPEAKER_01: It's the love of God that we receive from the Holy Spirit.
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SPEAKER_01: That you love one another as I've loved you.
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SPEAKER_01: Man, did Jesus love Judas?
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SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_01: What kind of love is this that would not condemn Judas?
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SPEAKER_01: He said, just go and do what you've got to do.
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SPEAKER_01: What kind of love is that?
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SPEAKER_01: It's God's love.
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SPEAKER_01: And you know when Christians do wrong, and sometimes we do, we need to be quick to forgive them.
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SPEAKER_01: We need to be quick to forgive them and restore them if possible.
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SPEAKER_01: To fellowship with God and fellowship with the local church, we need to be quick to say, I understand I've been there, and most of us have.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, one time, many times, God would send an evil spirit like to Saul.
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SPEAKER_01: David come and play the harp, and the evil spirit relieved.
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SPEAKER_01: Can it be that God sends the wrong spirit to people in the church to show them how mean and evil they really are?
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SPEAKER_01: Just ask them the question.
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SPEAKER_01: Because God, all sins are going to be manifest.
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SPEAKER_01: It's just a matter of time, it's all coming out.
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SPEAKER_01: Look at the big mega ministry preachers that have had to resign because of something that happened 40 years ago.
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SPEAKER_01: Not got a problem with that.
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SPEAKER_01: Where's the proof?
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SPEAKER_01: And then our yesterday is gone.
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SPEAKER_01: If you've repented, there's nothing to be convicted about.
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SPEAKER_01: And yet the church kills off a wounded.
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SPEAKER_01: That's wrong.
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SPEAKER_01: We need to repair them, correct, and instruct them, lest we be tempted to get into some kind of sin in here.
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SPEAKER_01: Then who's going to help us?
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SPEAKER_01: Love one another as I've loved you.
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SPEAKER_01: That you also love one another.
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SPEAKER_01: And then verse 35 by this shall all men know you're my disciples if you have love one to another.
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SPEAKER_01: Are you a disciple of Christ or not?
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SPEAKER_01: A lot of people say they're Christians and believers.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, the devil believes.
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SPEAKER_01: But God will have disciples.
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SPEAKER_01: And that requires discipline and change.
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SPEAKER_01: And if we're going to be hard-headed and not admit that we're carnal, then there's not much hope.
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SPEAKER_01: You've already gone past the point of turning around.
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SPEAKER_01: Who are you talking to?
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SPEAKER_01: It doesn't matter.
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SPEAKER_01: Let's see.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm talking to the screen back here, Facebook.
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SPEAKER_01: Facebook's evil.
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SPEAKER_01: This texting and social network is evil.
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SPEAKER_01: He causes.
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SPEAKER_01: Now there's some good on there.
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SPEAKER_01: And we use it.
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SPEAKER_01: But then there's a lot of evil on there.
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SPEAKER_01: Which is the beast system coming on strong.
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SPEAKER_01: AI is going to get to the place where we won't know what's real and what's fake.
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unknown: That's right.
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SPEAKER_01: You won't know who to believe anymore or what to believe.
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SPEAKER_01: And we're living in a dangerous time, and now's no time to get something stuck in your craw.
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unknown: That's right.
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unknown: That's right.
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SPEAKER_01: Disciples, if you have loyal, if you have love one to another, you're his disciples.
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SPEAKER_01: Years ago when I was going to Bible school, I I griped quite a bit, and I'll admit that I've almost overcame it.
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SPEAKER_01: And I was talking to a good friend of mine, and I was talking about something people were doing that was just terrible bad.
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SPEAKER_01: And he he got tired of my griping one day.
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SPEAKER_01: And he said, Well, you know, God knows all about it, don't he?
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SPEAKER_01: I said, Yeah, I guess he does.
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SPEAKER_01: So I began to change there.
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SPEAKER_01: I begin to change to refraining from griping so much as to speaking possibilities of what could be with that person.
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SPEAKER_01: If they'll only listen, only listen.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, are we disciples today?
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SPEAKER_01: You know, a lot of people know uh some insights of these few verses I'm talking about, but how many actually apply it to their lives?
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SPEAKER_01: You see, we're approved of God by submitting to the scripture.
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SPEAKER_01: No scripture, we're in big trouble.
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SPEAKER_01: And sometimes the scripture brings a shout, and sometimes it brings a tear.
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SPEAKER_01: But I'll tell you, it's all good if we'll just yield to God's will, please.
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SPEAKER_01: The last verse today is 1 Corinthians 13, and we call this verse the well, 1 Corinthians 12, we have the bread.
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SPEAKER_01: 1 Corinthians 14, we have the bread.
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SPEAKER_01: 1 Corinthians 13, we have the meat.
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SPEAKER_01: Like a sandwich.
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SPEAKER_01: We're getting hungry now.
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SPEAKER_01: In verse 4 of 1 Corinthians 13, Paul said, now he's writing the church again, everybody.
35:56
SPEAKER_01: Now, you know, before I read this and close down here before I get stoned, Mac Evans.
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SPEAKER_01: I used to listen to him quite a bit.
36:04
SPEAKER_01: How many ever listened to Mac Evans back when he was alive?
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SPEAKER_01: And a lot of stuff he said, right on the money, man, right on.
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SPEAKER_01: Except one thing.
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SPEAKER_01: He said this Bible is for sinners only.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't agree.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't agree.
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SPEAKER_01: I know what he meant, but he needs to clarify a statement, especially on TV.
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SPEAKER_01: Great minister of the gospel, and yet now the church is in trouble up there because his son did not step up to the plate and assume the mantle.
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SPEAKER_01: It was too much, and now they're in disarray.
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SPEAKER_01: I know this first hand information.
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SPEAKER_01: Then I think about here.
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SPEAKER_01: Think about Haskell's church.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, the Lord has the answer to these things.
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SPEAKER_01: But it's grievous.
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SPEAKER_01: I think a lot of the problems we have we could solve if we would just get in love with God.
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SPEAKER_01: Please.
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SPEAKER_01: He must be first in our lives.
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SPEAKER_01: That means you're going to want to do what he wants you to do.
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SPEAKER_01: Regardless of what anybody thinks or says, because you love God more than people.
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SPEAKER_01: Who was Ageg that spared the sheep?
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SPEAKER_01: And the prophet said, What's that bleeding of the sheep out here?
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, I keep kept them to sacrifice because the people want me to do it.
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SPEAKER_01: And the prophet killed him.
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SPEAKER_01: He didn't totally disobey God.
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SPEAKER_01: That's the fearful thing.
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SPEAKER_01: I have to obey God to the best of my ability.
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SPEAKER_01: And I realize people are not going to understand it.
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SPEAKER_01: Some are not going to go with it, but new ones will come in.
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SPEAKER_01: I've noticed this about tithes.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't keep too much track of the tithes and offerings because God's always provided some way.
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SPEAKER_01: But when a spirit of strife leaves the church, a better spirit comes into the church and the tithes and offerings come up.
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SPEAKER_01: Now explain that to me.
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SPEAKER_01: Because Satan, for what I understand, puts a blanket on some of your faith, and you won't trust God like you should be trusting.
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SPEAKER_01: Love suffers long.
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SPEAKER_01: Man, what a statement.
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SPEAKER_01: Say love suffers long.
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SPEAKER_01: How much are we supposed to say?
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SPEAKER_01: How far do we have to go in this?
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SPEAKER_01: It's kind.
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SPEAKER_01: Everybody say love is kind.
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SPEAKER_01: Love doesn't envy.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Love doesn't vaunteth itself up.
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SPEAKER_01: Which means doesn't puff himself up to be some great one, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, not puffed up, sure.
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SPEAKER_01: Love does not behave itself unseemingly.
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SPEAKER_01: Nobody acts like a child of the devil and claims to be a Christian.
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SPEAKER_01: Actions, reactions.
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SPEAKER_01: We're thinking about somebody else.
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SPEAKER_01: How do we react when we're hit by something from Satan?
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SPEAKER_01: God's going to test us all.
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SPEAKER_01: See if we love God more than yielding to carnal circumstances that mean nothing.
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SPEAKER_01: It's all temporary.
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SPEAKER_01: So love then doesn't seek her own.
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SPEAKER_01: No.
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SPEAKER_01: Not easily provoked.
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SPEAKER_01: Now, I'll admit, I can go a long ways in situations.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, over the top.
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SPEAKER_01: I love to forgive people.
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SPEAKER_01: So I can stay right with God myself.
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SPEAKER_01: But there is a cutoff point.
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SPEAKER_01: There is a break point.
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SPEAKER_01: Even Jesus made it whip and run him out of the church.
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SPEAKER_01: You say, well, he was God.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know he was God.
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SPEAKER_01: He was also man.
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SPEAKER_01: Love doesn't think evil.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't want to think evil about people.
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SPEAKER_01: Do you?
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SPEAKER_01: But yet, if we're walking in the flesh, that's the first thing we're thinking of.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, you know what Brother Mooney did back there in them days?
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SPEAKER_01: It doesn't matter.
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SPEAKER_01: A hundred years from now, nothing matters except one thing.
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SPEAKER_01: You're in glory, shouting the glory.
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SPEAKER_01: Shouting praise to God.
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SPEAKER_01: That's what really matters.
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SPEAKER_01: One week from now, who cares?
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SPEAKER_01: And yet you carry it around.
41:51
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna tell you right now, you raise your hand against my decision as scriptural, God's gonna spank you.
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SPEAKER_01: Which one of you can convince me of sinning?
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SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying I'm sinless, I'm just saying I don't want to live that way.
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SPEAKER_01: I reject it when I get off and get tripped up by the devil.
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SPEAKER_01: I even ask forgiveness for you because I couldn't control my frustrations last Sunday night.
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SPEAKER_01: Now I'm almost to the point, almost to the point again, but not quite.
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SPEAKER_01: Why?
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SPEAKER_01: Because every time I get ready to go overseas, all hell breaks loose in every area of my life.
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SPEAKER_01: The family, the church.
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SPEAKER_01: Satan.
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SPEAKER_01: I uh years ago.
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SPEAKER_01: Now I'm here until the Lord takes me out.
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SPEAKER_01: Years ago, it's probably been 15, 20 years ago.
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SPEAKER_01: I I went to see uh Brother Thompson.
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SPEAKER_01: He'd pastored 40, 50, 60 years, had all kinds of troubles, and I know all about what he went through.
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SPEAKER_01: Now he made mistakes.
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SPEAKER_01: Like one time, this girl came into church and her boyfriend had orange hair.
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SPEAKER_01: Orange hair in an afro.
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SPEAKER_01: And he was preaching on and he goes, wouldn't it be a fine thing if I had orange hair?
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SPEAKER_01: Now that was a mistake because we don't want to embarrass people.
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SPEAKER_01: He could be saved with orange hair, and we'll cut it off afterwards.
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SPEAKER_01: Doesn't matter.
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SPEAKER_01: God loves him, but he had a lot of stuff that was good.
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SPEAKER_01: So I go to him for counsel.
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SPEAKER_01: Sometimes pastors need counsel also, just bouncing things off and get proper perspective because Satan can really fog things up.
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SPEAKER_01: And I go, Brother Thompson, I'm really thinking about resigning the church, and I just don't have it.
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SPEAKER_01: He said to me, Changing pastors won't fix anything.
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SPEAKER_01: We change, they preach the gospel of grace, and nothing's nothing's changed.
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SPEAKER_01: They have a love gospel, nothing's changed.
44:36
SPEAKER_01: He said, No, the billing won't do it.
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SPEAKER_01: Different crowd won't do it.
44:46
SPEAKER_01: I said, Yeah, I know, but he says, answer this question for me.
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SPEAKER_01: How many people you got?
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SPEAKER_01: You know, I don't write a number, but you know, good crowd.
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SPEAKER_01: He said, Can you leave those people?
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SPEAKER_01: And be okay with God if you left them.
45:11
SPEAKER_01: I said, I can't do it.
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SPEAKER_01: Even though I wanted to.
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SPEAKER_01: We're throwing out the word to you that you rarely receive in this country and you don't appreciate it.
45:30
SPEAKER_01: But at the same time, God's minister to somebody somewhere, bringing them to maturity, putting them in ministries here and there, back and forth.
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SPEAKER_01: And God's the one in charge of all of this.
45:44
SPEAKER_01: And I answered from my heart, I can't leave them.
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SPEAKER_01: The wolf comes, hard times hit, strife, jealousy, hatred, works of the flesh, breaking all the commandments, and a spirit-filled church.
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SPEAKER_01: And here I am.
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SPEAKER_01: I can't leave them.
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SPEAKER_01: And I answered my own question.
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