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- 0:01Speaker 1: It's business time, baby. You are listening to Solo Monsters
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- 0:27Speaker 3: Who hasn't beat Daniel Barcia. This is episode nine thirty
- 0:34Speaker 3: three of The Solo Monster Sounds Off for Sunday, October twelve,
- 0:38Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. I am the Solo Monster. It's been
- 0:42Speaker 3: a very busy weekend and it's not over yet. We
- 0:44Speaker 3: still got bound for Glory tonight, the biggest TNA show
- 0:48Speaker 3: of the year. Mike Santana going for the TNA World Championship,
- 0:52Speaker 3: trying to take that title away from Trick Williams. That
- 0:56Speaker 3: the Hardy's and the Dudleys their final is gonna be
- 0:59Speaker 3: a table man final, table, I think, is how they're
- 1:02Speaker 3: billing it. So we got that coming up tonight and
- 1:05Speaker 3: an early morning raw tomorrow from Perth. Thank you all
- 1:09Speaker 3: for the birthday love this week. You guys are awesome.
- 1:11Speaker 3: I am going to talk about Crown Jewel, the fallout
- 1:14Speaker 3: from that show yesterday, and about that SmackDown show that
- 1:17Speaker 3: I didn't get a chance to discuss from Friday. It
- 1:19Speaker 3: looks like they might be serious about making changes to
- 1:22Speaker 3: that show, which is long overdue. And then I got
- 1:26Speaker 3: a bunch of other notes on NXT and aaw So
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- 3:54Speaker 3: you want to check out Natty's new book. Friday's House
- 3:58Speaker 3: of Glory show was insane, absolutely jam packed, as packed
- 4:03Speaker 3: as I've ever seen it inside the NYC Arena to
- 4:05Speaker 3: see the Hardys beat main event Jylyon and Midas Black
- 4:10Speaker 3: title for title winner take All. It was TNA Tag
- 4:14Speaker 3: team titles on the line, hog Tag Team titles on
- 4:17Speaker 3: the line. The Hardys were there with their new NXT
- 4:21Speaker 3: tag team titles as well, first time we've seen those
- 4:23Speaker 3: in a House of Glory ring, although they were not
- 4:25Speaker 3: on the line. So I mean, think about this, You
- 4:28Speaker 3: had a TNA tag team holding the NXT titles in
- 4:32Speaker 3: an hog ring. Wild times that we live in. But
- 4:37Speaker 3: the Hardys are the new Hog Tag Team Champions. That
- 4:40Speaker 3: makes four sets of belts they now possess. Not their
- 4:43Speaker 3: first time holding them either, They first won them back
- 4:46Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen, so it's been a very long time.
- 4:49Speaker 3: Had that match gone the other way, that would have
- 4:52Speaker 3: caused a pretty big change to Bound for Glory. Tonight,
- 4:56Speaker 3: in the main event between Charles Mason and men like Dereise,
- 5:00Speaker 3: who was the reigning Progress World Champion, we had an
- 5:03Speaker 3: unexpected recreation of one of the most infamous moments in
- 5:07Speaker 3: ECW history when the fans began throwing chairs into the
- 5:12Speaker 3: ring for them to use. That was very scary, but
- 5:16Speaker 3: it made for one hell of a visual. It's one
- 5:18Speaker 3: of those times I'm very happy I don't do commentary
- 5:20Speaker 3: at ringside anymore. So that was insane. And then Killer
- 5:24Speaker 3: Cross made his Hog debut with a win over Matt Cardona.
- 5:29Speaker 3: Zillafot I retained his Crown Jewel title, the only Crown
- 5:33Speaker 3: Jewel title that really matters, over Bear Bronson and the
- 5:38Speaker 3: amazing Red and Leon Slater, the TNAX Division champion.
- 5:41Speaker 1: They tore it up.
- 5:42Speaker 3: Indy Hartwell retained her Hog Women's Championship.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Over Zeta Steel. It was a hell of a night.
- 5:49Speaker 3: And I got to meet a lot of you as usual,
- 5:52Speaker 3: some of you for the very first time. I know
- 5:53Speaker 3: a lot of people were also in town for Comic
- 5:55Speaker 3: Con and came straight over from that. Shout out to
- 5:59Speaker 3: Randy from Brooklyn. He's been a fan going back to
- 6:02Speaker 3: the early eighties WWF, maybe even earlier than that, and
- 6:07Speaker 3: he's a big fan of the podcast and of a
- 6:10Speaker 3: TNT on Tuesdays. So it was great to meet him
- 6:14Speaker 3: and just incredibly proud of my Hog family, not just
- 6:17Speaker 3: all the talent, but all the folks on camera and
- 6:19Speaker 3: off who make these shows possible. The Hardys will be
- 6:23Speaker 3: back to defend those titles. I mean they kind of
- 6:26Speaker 3: have to be now. But first we've got our Long
- 6:28Speaker 3: Island debut coming up on November fifteenth, in conjunction with
- 6:31Speaker 3: the Big Event Expo's gonna be a lot of wrestlers there,
- 6:35Speaker 3: So now kind of like Comic Con this week, if
- 6:37Speaker 3: you're going to be hitting up the big event, you
- 6:39Speaker 3: may as well stick around because that night you get
- 6:41Speaker 3: to see a wrestling show. And then later that week
- 6:45Speaker 3: on November twenty first, we are back in Chicago. Now
- 6:49Speaker 3: I mentioned Zeta Steele, this will kind of blend well
- 6:53Speaker 3: here into our first news item, I mentioned Zeta Steele.
- 6:56Speaker 3: She was the first talent signed to a WWEID contra
- 7:00Speaker 3: last year. For someone as young as she is, only
- 7:03Speaker 3: twenty one years old. She carries herself like a total star.
- 7:07Speaker 3: She just has a confidence about her that really makes
- 7:10Speaker 3: her stand out. And I noticed that, you know, in
- 7:12Speaker 3: doing my research and putting some notes together before the show,
- 7:16Speaker 3: I was watching a couple of her recent interviews and
- 7:18Speaker 3: you just listen to her speak and talk about wrestling
- 7:20Speaker 3: and her journey and all that. I mean, this woman
- 7:24Speaker 3: is a total star and she will be a name
- 7:26Speaker 3: that you see on TV in a prominent role in
- 7:30Speaker 3: these next five years. But she made some news this
- 7:32Speaker 3: week on Thursday when she announced I've decided not to
- 7:36Speaker 3: renew my WWEID contract. I am incredibly grateful for all
- 7:41Speaker 3: the knowledge, experience, and opportunities that I've gained along the way,
- 7:45Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, I have to
- 7:47Speaker 3: do what's best for me now. I talked about the
- 7:50Speaker 3: WWEID program after it was first launched last year. So
- 7:54Speaker 3: basically it provides indie talent with some limited financial support.
- 8:00Speaker 3: Evidently not a lot of financial support, but they say
- 8:04Speaker 3: there's some money involved, and they provide them with that
- 8:07Speaker 3: wwe ID designation. That talent could then use to kind
- 8:11Speaker 3: of market themselves, and promotions can use it when they
- 8:13Speaker 3: promote these talents for their shows. But really what it
- 8:17Speaker 3: does is it gives WWE first DIBs on these talents
- 8:21Speaker 3: should they eventually want to sign them to a proper
- 8:23Speaker 3: contract before anyone else has the chance to do so.
- 8:27Speaker 3: So when you sign a WWE ID deal, you're not
- 8:31Speaker 3: really signing a WWE like a full time deal, a
- 8:33Speaker 3: developmental deal, or a main roster deal. It's basically them saying, Okay,
- 8:38Speaker 3: we see something in you. There could be something here.
- 8:41Speaker 3: We're not ready to kind of sign you full on
- 8:43Speaker 3: just yet, but we have first DIBs and so maybe
- 8:47Speaker 3: in six months, maybe in a year, maybe in two years,
- 8:50Speaker 3: we decide, you know what, we want to pick you
- 8:51Speaker 3: up full time. But it also kind of prevents certain
- 8:56Speaker 3: other places from getting their hooks in on these men
- 8:59Speaker 3: and women if WWE, you know, wants them first. So
- 9:03Speaker 3: you get that WWE ID stamp of approval, you have
- 9:07Speaker 3: the freedom to continue working indies. I'm sure there are
- 9:11Speaker 3: some restrictions on certain places they cannot work. You can
- 9:13Speaker 3: figure out what those places are. But like, if you
- 9:17Speaker 3: start generating a buzz and you continue to improve and
- 9:20Speaker 3: up your game, then chances are they'll probably want to
- 9:23Speaker 3: sign you to a full time developmental deal. So the
- 9:27Speaker 3: program is barely a year old, and I wouldn't exactly
- 9:30Speaker 3: call it a resounding success so far. I don't think
- 9:34Speaker 3: they've signed anyone new in months, and in fact, there
- 9:38Speaker 3: have been several names that have either been cut, which
- 9:41Speaker 3: you know you would expect there would be some over time,
- 9:44Speaker 3: but names that have either been cut or announced their
- 9:46Speaker 3: departure by their own choice. In just the last couple
- 9:49Speaker 3: of months. You know, Zara Zacher just announce that her
- 9:53Speaker 3: WWEID contract expired and she's taking a step back from wrestling.
- 9:57Speaker 3: Kylie Ray recently vacated her WWEID Women's Championship because she
- 10:02Speaker 3: is pregnant with her second child, so they told her
- 10:05Speaker 3: that they're not renewing her contract. Meanwhile, it's been almost
- 10:09Speaker 3: a month and there's been no word on what they
- 10:12Speaker 3: even plan to do with that title. They don't really
- 10:14Speaker 3: seem to be in any great rush to figure it out,
- 10:16Speaker 3: and nobody seems to care. So I get that the
- 10:19Speaker 3: program is probably more of a long term play, so
- 10:23Speaker 3: we'll see how things pan out, you know, if the
- 10:25Speaker 3: program is even still a thing, let's say two years
- 10:27Speaker 3: from now, three years from now. They also pulled their
- 10:30Speaker 3: ID designation from Knox Pro after the Psycho ste incident.
- 10:34Speaker 3: I'm going to have some news on that later and
- 10:37Speaker 3: that wasn't their fault, but that's not the kind of
- 10:39Speaker 3: publicity that they want to be associated with. So a
- 10:43Speaker 3: year in and it is still very much up in
- 10:45Speaker 3: the air as to what kind of success this program
- 10:47Speaker 3: is going to be. There was other NXT and developmental
- 10:51Speaker 3: news this week as well, in the form of several releases.
- 10:55Speaker 3: Now in developmental, there are always going to be people
- 10:57Speaker 3: coming in and going out. That's just of developmental. If
- 11:01Speaker 3: you're not progressing as quickly as they would like, or
- 11:03Speaker 3: they don't see main roster potential in you, they're gonna
- 11:06Speaker 3: get rid of you. Stevie Turner, Drake o' knox, Jamar Hampton,
- 11:11Speaker 3: jin Tala Hayes, Jamison my god, some of these names, Summer, Sorell,
- 11:17Speaker 3: and bj Ray are all gone from the company. Stevie Turner,
- 11:21Speaker 3: I guess being the most prominent, not that she was
- 11:24Speaker 3: all that prominent to begin with, but the most prominent
- 11:26Speaker 3: of them all, and even her, she hadn't wrestled the
- 11:30Speaker 3: match since February. You know, she was used primarily as
- 11:33Speaker 3: an assistant to Ava on NXT, and I think she
- 11:35Speaker 3: was also the general manager for Evolve. So she tweeted,
- 11:39Speaker 3: can't believe I'm gonna get to wrestle again. You know,
- 11:43Speaker 3: none of those names are surprising to me, but one
- 11:46Speaker 3: name that was very surprising to hear about, and that
- 11:49Speaker 3: is wes Lee, Desmond, Xavier, fight Full, and Corey Hayes.
- 11:53Speaker 3: A PWN reported that Weslee was released by WWE. Now,
- 11:59Speaker 3: wes Lee had not won a match on TV since May.
- 12:03Speaker 3: He hadn't worked a match of any kind at all
- 12:05Speaker 3: on TV since July, so it's almost like the writing
- 12:08Speaker 3: was on the wall here. But you know, more recently
- 12:11Speaker 3: he's been aligned with the high Rise Group in NXT.
- 12:15Speaker 3: But you know, at one point he was one half
- 12:16Speaker 3: of the NXT Tag Team Champions when he was part
- 12:19Speaker 3: of MSK. He's a former NXT North American Champion, so
- 12:23Speaker 3: he found success on his own as a single star.
- 12:26Speaker 3: He's a super talented guy. I think he was better
- 12:29Speaker 3: in the babyface role than the heel role, and I
- 12:32Speaker 3: think he had underdog babyface potential on the main roster,
- 12:36Speaker 3: you know. And it's one thing to say that, well, look,
- 12:38Speaker 3: if you're in developmental and you're not progressing as quickly
- 12:41Speaker 3: as they would like for you, too, they're gonna cut you.
- 12:44Speaker 3: Wesley does not fall into that category. Okay, Wesley, if
- 12:49Speaker 3: you tell me, well, you know, Wesley was not really
- 12:51Speaker 3: progressing and the way that they wanted to clearly that
- 12:54Speaker 3: doesn't apply to him. So there was some other reason
- 12:56Speaker 3: why they felt the need to get rid of him,
- 12:58Speaker 3: and unless it was something he requested, and that's certainly
- 13:01Speaker 3: not the impression that I'm under. It just sounds to
- 13:04Speaker 3: me like they decided, we don't have any real plans
- 13:06Speaker 3: for him on the main roster to call him up,
- 13:09Speaker 3: and so we're gonna cut bait and move on. And
- 13:10Speaker 3: I just think that's completely ridiculous, because again, he's an
- 13:14Speaker 3: uber talented guy who I think you absolutely could have
- 13:17Speaker 3: found a role for, whether it was singles or tag team.
- 13:21Speaker 3: So that one caught me by surprise. And there was
- 13:24Speaker 3: yet another release this week. They weren't done yet, Supposedly,
- 13:28Speaker 3: I think Brian Alvarez mentioned there might even be more
- 13:30Speaker 3: coming up this week, but for now, this was the
- 13:32Speaker 3: other release this week, and this time it was a
- 13:35Speaker 3: Bloodline member. Lance Atawaii, the son of Samu, announced on
- 13:42Speaker 3: Friday that he too was released by WWE, so he
- 13:46Speaker 3: did not in fact make it. Meltzer was right after all.
- 13:52Speaker 3: If you know you know, Lance posted this, I am
- 13:55Speaker 3: officially announcing my departure from WWE. I didn't have the
- 13:59Speaker 3: best of lucks since I arrived. I will not let
- 14:01Speaker 3: this stop me from achieving to be great. I've worked
- 14:04Speaker 3: hard on the indies for fifteen years. Now let's get
- 14:07Speaker 3: back to work. Thirty days accepting bookings at book Lanceanoye
- 14:13Speaker 3: at gmail dot com. You know he's not kidding when
- 14:17Speaker 3: he says that he didn't have the best of lux
- 14:18Speaker 3: and signing he signed in November as part of the
- 14:20Speaker 3: NXT roster never appeared on TV, but he actually now
- 14:24Speaker 3: here's a little interesting trivia note. He actually wrestled Shane
- 14:27Speaker 3: McMahon once in a match on Raw back in twenty nineteen.
- 14:31Speaker 3: I'll bet there's a memory unlocked for you. But shortly
- 14:35Speaker 3: after signing last year, he suffered an injury and he
- 14:39Speaker 3: was supposed to be cleared earlier this year, but then
- 14:41Speaker 3: he ended up suffering another injury and that sidelined him
- 14:44Speaker 3: even longer than expected. He still hasn't wrestled the match
- 14:47Speaker 3: since August of last year, so when all the time
- 14:50Speaker 3: that he has been signed with WWE, he has not
- 14:53Speaker 3: wrestled officially wrestled a single match. We had him in
- 14:57Speaker 3: House of Glory for a match early last year and
- 15:00Speaker 3: he looked the best that I had ever seen him.
- 15:03Speaker 3: So when he got signed, I was happy for the guy.
- 15:06Speaker 3: And then he just got bit by the injury bug
- 15:08Speaker 3: and he ended up losing his dream.
- 15:09Speaker 1: Job earlier in the week.
- 15:13Speaker 3: And funny enough, just days after the fire triple H
- 15:16Speaker 3: hashtag picked up some steam on social media, there was
- 15:20Speaker 3: a report that WWE would be making some changes behind
- 15:23Speaker 3: the scenes to the SmackDown creative team because, let's be honest,
- 15:27Speaker 3: SmackDown has largely been a rinse repeat show now for months.
- 15:30Speaker 3: It's fucking boring. It needs a roster shake up as
- 15:34Speaker 3: much as it needs a creative one. You know, the
- 15:37Speaker 3: tag team division, the tag team division really was propping
- 15:39Speaker 3: up the show for many, many months. That tag team
- 15:42Speaker 3: division has now gone cold. Now it's sammy' Zin and
- 15:45Speaker 3: his weekly US Open challenges that are keeping the show interesting.
- 15:49Speaker 3: The women's division is just in dire need of some
- 15:51Speaker 3: fresh faces, and the main events scene has been very
- 15:54Speaker 3: weak now. Perbodyslam dot Net, WWE is said to be
- 15:59Speaker 3: moving forward with internal changes aimed at improving the quality
- 16:03Speaker 3: of SmackDown, which means they even they recognized the show
- 16:07Speaker 3: needs to be better. But road Dog Brian James is
- 16:12Speaker 3: expected to stay on as lead writer, but there will
- 16:15Speaker 3: be additions to the team to make the show more
- 16:17Speaker 3: enjoyable moving forward. SmackDown, I should point out, has also
- 16:22Speaker 3: been hit hard by these new changes to the Nielsen
- 16:24Speaker 3: measurement system, just like NXT and aw Dynamite have been.
- 16:29Speaker 3: SmackDown last week on USA network was down to just
- 16:32Speaker 3: a million viewers. Now, this is their normal night on
- 16:35Speaker 3: their normal network, and they were down to just a
- 16:39Speaker 3: hair over a million viewers, down roughly twenty percent from
- 16:42Speaker 3: the week before. I would say that'll inspire some creative
- 16:46Speaker 3: changes real quick, more than any hashtag ever will. That's
- 16:50Speaker 3: the lowest total the show has done since twenty twenty three,
- 16:53Speaker 3: and that's only because the show that night was moved
- 16:56Speaker 3: from Fox to FS one and they always took a
- 16:58Speaker 3: hit when they moved to a different network. You know,
- 17:02Speaker 3: soon we're gonna have fans online saying the same thing
- 17:04Speaker 3: that they used to say about Dynamite when the numbers
- 17:07Speaker 3: on Wednesdays started to creator no Milli, no Milli for SmackDown.
- 17:14Speaker 1: It could happen now.
- 17:17Speaker 3: One of the changes we saw on Friday, and this
- 17:19Speaker 3: may have nothing to do with creative, but it's a
- 17:21Speaker 3: welcome change and I'd like to see more of.
- 17:23Speaker 1: It, was some old theme.
- 17:25Speaker 3: Music that we got back. The Street Profits got their
- 17:28Speaker 3: old music back, as did Shinsky Nakamora, who returned to
- 17:31Speaker 3: accept Sammy's Ain's US title Open challenge. I would not
- 17:35Speaker 3: read too much into this yet. I don't think def
- 17:37Speaker 3: Rebel have been given their walking papers, but Russell Votes
- 17:41Speaker 3: did say that sources indicate several WWE stars have been
- 17:45Speaker 3: requesting music changes for some time now, and some have
- 17:48Speaker 3: been very outspoken about it, like Drew MacIntyre and Shamus,
- 17:52Speaker 3: and time will tell if those requests are granted. You know,
- 17:56Speaker 3: I would say Shamus needs his old theme song back,
- 17:58Speaker 3: but what good is it if he's never on tea
- 18:00Speaker 3: to actually hear it.
- 18:02Speaker 1: They could give it back to.
- 18:03Speaker 3: Him, but you know, if he's not actually appearing on
- 18:05Speaker 3: the show, it kind of defeats the purpose. The Street
- 18:08Speaker 3: Profits got their old music back only to then lose
- 18:11Speaker 3: to the Wyatt Six in their tag team title match.
- 18:15Speaker 3: Maybe they only got their music back for one week
- 18:17Speaker 3: before they break them up.
- 18:19Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 18:19Speaker 3: But Nakamura answered the open challenge and he did not
- 18:22Speaker 3: win the US title. The match was foiled. It was
- 18:26Speaker 3: ruined by the MFTs hitting the ring and attacking both men.
- 18:31Speaker 3: Toma Tonga is back and he had white face paint on,
- 18:36Speaker 3: as did all of the other members of the MFTs
- 18:38Speaker 3: except for Solo Socoa. But Tomatonga, as expected, was the
- 18:42Speaker 3: one that Solo was referring to when he said something
- 18:45Speaker 3: was missing. Tama was the missing piece. You can put
- 18:50Speaker 3: all the clown makeup on that you want if they
- 18:52Speaker 3: don't take the time to flesh out these characters more.
- 18:55Speaker 3: I'm not going to give any more of a shit
- 18:57Speaker 3: about these guys next week than I did the last
- 18:59Speaker 3: six months. But they did come back out later in
- 19:02Speaker 3: the show to confront the Wyots after the match with
- 19:05Speaker 3: the Profits, and we got Nicky Cross staring down Solo Socoa. Well,
- 19:10Speaker 3: I can't wait for that match. That's going to be
- 19:13Speaker 3: a hell of a match. Tomatanga and Nakamura were not
- 19:18Speaker 3: the only returns on this show. Selena Vega is back
- 19:20Speaker 3: as a heel with her husband Alister Black. She came
- 19:23Speaker 3: out at the end of his Last man Standing match
- 19:25Speaker 3: with Damian Priest, which was very good. She was there
- 19:28Speaker 3: in the crowd for the distraction because they were both
- 19:30Speaker 3: on top of some equipment cases and they were battling,
- 19:33Speaker 3: and it was pretty clear somebody was going to be
- 19:35Speaker 3: taking a table bump here because there was a table
- 19:37Speaker 3: down below. But then all of a sudden, there she is.
- 19:40Speaker 3: There's Zelena Vega, and that gave Black enough of a
- 19:43Speaker 3: distraction to then throw a fireball in Priest's face, and
- 19:49Speaker 3: then he blackmasked him off the cases and threw a
- 19:51Speaker 3: table down below, and he did not respond to the
- 19:53Speaker 3: referees ten count. They don't go to the flash paper
- 19:57Speaker 3: very often in this company, so that was different. At
- 20:00Speaker 3: least he didn't have a Hogan and Warrior moment on
- 20:03Speaker 3: Live TV. I like the pairing, you know, it's only natural,
- 20:07Speaker 3: and it's a different role for Zelena on TV that
- 20:10Speaker 3: I think she could do well in, you know, as
- 20:12Speaker 3: the plucky baby face. She really wasn't getting over you know,
- 20:15Speaker 3: she would come out to crickets every single week. Now
- 20:17Speaker 3: she could still wrestle, she doesn't have to just be
- 20:20Speaker 3: a valet. But I think the pairing will do them
- 20:22Speaker 3: both very well. So there were signs of some of
- 20:25Speaker 3: those creative changes that we heard about. Whether these end
- 20:27Speaker 3: up being good changes or bad changes. There were some
- 20:30Speaker 3: that I think were good. There were some that time
- 20:33Speaker 3: will tell. But you know, the show needs changes, so
- 20:37Speaker 3: let's give it some time and see how the changes
- 20:39Speaker 3: play out. I mean, this is what a lot of
- 20:40Speaker 3: people have been asking for, so you can't just judge
- 20:43Speaker 3: them in one week.
- 20:44Speaker 1: You know.
- 20:44Speaker 3: I'm encouraged that they're at least taking the steps to
- 20:47Speaker 3: shake things up a little bit. Now they need to
- 20:50Speaker 3: focus on Julia and her United States championship and placing
- 20:54Speaker 3: more of an emphasis on that now. WWE held its
- 20:58Speaker 3: Crown Jewel Show in Perth, Australia yesterday. Definitely not a
- 21:03Speaker 3: C show this time. It was an upgrade from Wreussell Palooza.
- 21:08Speaker 3: I thought it was a good show. It was more
- 21:10Speaker 3: in the range of a B plus this time, largely
- 21:14Speaker 3: carried by the John Cena aj Styles match, which was
- 21:16Speaker 3: a match that was just thrown out there with no
- 21:19Speaker 3: story outside of the history that they shared together almost
- 21:23Speaker 3: a decade ago. That in and of itself does not
- 21:25Speaker 3: make a story. But it was just two you know,
- 21:28Speaker 3: legends in the company whose careers are both winding down,
- 21:33Speaker 3: and they looked at the card and said, we want
- 21:35Speaker 3: to just throw something out there that's going to be
- 21:36Speaker 3: a special attraction and get people excited.
- 21:39Speaker 1: That's what this match was.
- 21:41Speaker 3: And I pointed this out of my review since turning
- 21:43Speaker 3: back Babyface right before SummerSlam, John Cena, the guy that
- 21:47Speaker 3: was washed and couldn't hack it in the ring anymore,
- 21:51Speaker 3: has now stolen the show at three of the last
- 21:53Speaker 3: four pls and he secured his one hundredth pl win,
- 21:58Speaker 3: moving him to second place all time behind the Undertaker
- 22:02Speaker 3: with one oh seven. And I loved everything about this.
- 22:06Speaker 3: You know, AJ Styles coming out in the throwback TNA gear,
- 22:09Speaker 3: you know, him wearing the trunks instead of the tights
- 22:12Speaker 3: was a little weird. It's been a while, so that
- 22:14Speaker 3: was interesting. And then John Cena comes out and he
- 22:16Speaker 3: hands a piece of paper to Alicia Taylor and he
- 22:20Speaker 3: wants her to do a very special introduction for Aj
- 22:22Speaker 3: Styles that evidently Aj was not warned about or told
- 22:26Speaker 3: about in advance. He had no idea it was coming.
- 22:28Speaker 3: And his reaction was genuine because they kept the camera
- 22:31Speaker 3: on him as they had Alisia reading off this piece
- 22:36Speaker 3: of paper and it said the definition of total NonStop action,
- 22:39Speaker 3: the ace and undisputed Boss of the Bullet Club. It
- 22:44Speaker 3: is our honor as fans, in my honor as an opponent,
- 22:47Speaker 3: to see if he can beat up John Cena one
- 22:49Speaker 3: final time. He is the face that runs the place,
- 22:53Speaker 3: the phenomenal Aj Styles. It's a great introduction, and I
- 22:58Speaker 3: tell you, you know it didn't really he hit me
- 23:01Speaker 3: at the time, but undisputed Boss of the Bullet Club.
- 23:06Speaker 1: Could that be a.
- 23:06Speaker 3: Reason for Finn Balor to confront Aj Styles on Raw?
- 23:11Speaker 3: You'd think you're the undisputed boss of the I mean
- 23:13Speaker 3: AJ didn't write it, but you know Aj had a
- 23:16Speaker 3: big smile on his face when Sena said it.
- 23:19Speaker 1: Could they use that line?
- 23:20Speaker 3: Of course they can, I don't know if they will,
- 23:21Speaker 3: but could they use that line to you know, create
- 23:25Speaker 3: friction between Balor and aj Or? Does Balor maybe confront
- 23:31Speaker 3: John Cena on Raw next month? Because we're not going
- 23:33Speaker 3: to see John Cena again until Boston on November tenth.
- 23:36Speaker 3: He's only got four dates left Boston November tenth, Madison
- 23:40Speaker 3: Square Garden the week after that, San Diego for Survivor
- 23:44Speaker 3: Series on November twenty ninth, and then Saturday Nights Made
- 23:47Speaker 3: Event on December thirteenth in DC. That's it. We are
- 23:50Speaker 3: down to the final four. I cannot imagine that we
- 23:54Speaker 3: get John Cena on Raw his final Raw appearances back
- 23:58Speaker 3: to back weeks, and he does not wrestle at least once,
- 24:02Speaker 3: if not on both of those shows. So could we
- 24:05Speaker 3: get Finn Balor in the Judgment Day coming out to
- 24:07Speaker 3: confront John Cena. Maybe we get an impromptu John Cena
- 24:10Speaker 3: Finn Baalor match in Boston, you know, or maybe at MSG.
- 24:14Speaker 3: That's what happened with Sammy's Ain, you know, we got
- 24:16Speaker 3: that imprompt two match on his final SmackDown. John Cena
- 24:20Speaker 3: wrestled on his final SmackDown. There's no way he's not
- 24:22Speaker 3: wrestling in Madison Square at least Madison Square Garden if
- 24:25Speaker 3: not Boston.
- 24:26Speaker 1: So I just throw that out there.
- 24:28Speaker 3: They could always use that line to create an issue
- 24:31Speaker 3: between him and Balor, and you do a match between
- 24:33Speaker 3: the two of them. Trying to think, did John Cena
- 24:35Speaker 3: and Finn Balor have a singles match like a PL
- 24:39Speaker 3: match or I guess even a TV matt I don't remember.
- 24:44Speaker 3: I really don't recall. But aj Styles, you know, John
- 24:47Speaker 3: Cena is not the only one who is calling it
- 24:49Speaker 3: quits very soon. We've heard AJ Styles talk about this before.
- 24:53Speaker 3: He talked about it to Tokyo Sports recently because they
- 24:56Speaker 3: have those dates coming up next weekend in Japan. He
- 25:00Speaker 3: had done an interview with Tokyo Sports and he said
- 25:03Speaker 3: that his plan is to retire in twenty twenty six.
- 25:06Speaker 3: He said he's not even sure if he'll be at
- 25:07Speaker 3: WrestleMania next year. The belief is that his deal may
- 25:10Speaker 3: be up in the early part of next year. But
- 25:12Speaker 3: I can't imagine they don't sign an extension or something,
- 25:15Speaker 3: you know, and get him to WrestleMania at least.
- 25:17Speaker 1: So if he.
- 25:18Speaker 3: Stays true to his word and he retires next year,
- 25:21Speaker 3: that doesn't mean that we have him for the entire year.
- 25:23Speaker 3: Like he could very well be done in Vegas at
- 25:26Speaker 3: WrestleMania next year.
- 25:28Speaker 1: But on the pre.
- 25:28Speaker 3: Show, they had the kickoff show for Crown Jewel on Friday,
- 25:31Speaker 3: and he reiterated his plans to retire from the ring,
- 25:35Speaker 3: and he said on the Crown Jewel kickoff, Look, I'm
- 25:38Speaker 3: getting old, folks. If I could find the fountain of
- 25:41Speaker 3: youth and take a couple of SIPs, I would wrestle
- 25:43Speaker 3: for the rest of my life. But you know, I
- 25:45Speaker 3: am getting older. The fear of embarrassing myself is getting closer.
- 25:50Speaker 3: And you know what, there comes a time in a
- 25:52Speaker 3: man's life when he has to take care of business.
- 25:55Speaker 3: But when business is done, it's time to take care
- 25:57Speaker 3: of his family. I need to spend time with my family.
- 26:01Speaker 3: The whole idea with wrestling and having an amazing future
- 26:04Speaker 3: in this business is to be able to retire one day,
- 26:07Speaker 3: and in twenty twenty six, I will retire. This match
- 26:12Speaker 3: felt like the end of an era in many ways.
- 26:15Speaker 3: You know, we heard about Undertaker and Triple H Helenasell
- 26:18Speaker 3: WrestleMania the end of an era, and it did. It
- 26:21Speaker 3: really did feel like the end of an era, even
- 26:23Speaker 3: though as it turned out, they both continued to wrestle
- 26:28Speaker 3: after WrestleMania twenty eight, so it really wasn't the end
- 26:30Speaker 3: of an era. But here that's kind of what it
- 26:32Speaker 3: feels like I take John Cen at his word when
- 26:35Speaker 3: he says that we will never see him in the
- 26:37Speaker 3: ring wrestling again after December thirteenth. I believe him, and
- 26:41Speaker 3: maybe I'm a fool, because there's been so many people
- 26:43Speaker 3: in wrestling that have said that and then they come back,
- 26:46Speaker 3: even just for one match, right many years later. Sean
- 26:49Speaker 3: Michaels did it, and Steve Austin did, although Steve Austin
- 26:51Speaker 3: never officially retired. But it's like everybody comes back at
- 26:56Speaker 3: some point.
- 26:56Speaker 1: Right.
- 26:57Speaker 3: If the Saudi money is such that John Cena consume,
- 27:00Speaker 3: not say no, he'll be back one day, right, But
- 27:02Speaker 3: he seems to be doing well for himself in Hollywood,
- 27:05Speaker 3: So I believe that John Cena's final match this year
- 27:08Speaker 3: will be his final match AJ Styles. I tend to
- 27:12Speaker 3: believe him, you know, when he says that he's going
- 27:14Speaker 3: to retire in twenty twenty six. But I you know
- 27:16Speaker 3: what with AJ, I could see him being coaxed out
- 27:19Speaker 3: for a match here and there. With AJ, my read
- 27:22Speaker 3: on it is more, Look, I'm getting old, my body's
- 27:25Speaker 3: getting more beat up. I don't want to embarrass myself.
- 27:27Speaker 3: I have a certain standard I have to live up to,
- 27:30Speaker 3: and so I've decided that before I turn fifty in
- 27:33Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, I'm going to retire and call it quits.
- 27:37Speaker 3: I could see him coming back for a match here
- 27:39Speaker 3: and there, though, right, But it just feels like these
- 27:42Speaker 3: two guys are from the same generation. They both got
- 27:44Speaker 3: their start around the same time, Aj a little before
- 27:47Speaker 3: Sena but not too much. And now here we are,
- 27:51Speaker 3: you know, twenty plus years later, twenty five years later,
- 27:53Speaker 3: whatever it's been, and you know, they have one foot
- 27:57Speaker 3: out the door and their careers are winding down, and
- 28:00Speaker 3: so this was their last chance to get in the
- 28:02Speaker 3: ring together and rekindle some of that magic that they
- 28:05Speaker 3: had during that feud in twenty sixteen, because the matches
- 28:08Speaker 3: they had back then, and they had three very prominent
- 28:11Speaker 3: singles matches on pay per views pls, whatever you want
- 28:15Speaker 3: to call them, and then a television match on SmackDown
- 28:20Speaker 3: that was very good in twenty eighteen. You know, they
- 28:22Speaker 3: came into this all knotted up a two wins apiece.
- 28:25Speaker 3: Could they recapture that magic right the way that Sena
- 28:29Speaker 3: and Punk kind of did when they wrestled back in June?
- 28:32Speaker 3: You know, could Styles and Scena do the same thing here,
- 28:35Speaker 3: and the answer is yes. Now, it was a very
- 28:38Speaker 3: different type of match because in this match here, they
- 28:41Speaker 3: were basically paying tribute to all of the people that
- 28:44Speaker 3: they have wrestled in the past over their career that
- 28:47Speaker 3: have helped kind of bring them to the point that
- 28:49Speaker 3: they are here in their careers. So you had John
- 28:53Speaker 3: Cena using a skull crushing finale right with a little
- 28:55Speaker 3: hat tip to the Miz And you had him using
- 28:58Speaker 3: a camel clutch which was a hat to the Accolade
- 29:01Speaker 3: and russev and their WrestleMania match back in twenty fifteen.
- 29:05Speaker 3: And the big one was John Cena using his sister Abigail,
- 29:09Speaker 3: including kissing aj on the forehead just like Bray Wyatt
- 29:12Speaker 3: used to do that. I mean, the place went nuts
- 29:14Speaker 3: and they got a great near fall out of it,
- 29:16Speaker 3: and the fans took their phones out and the fireflies,
- 29:19Speaker 3: and they had this moment where Sena was sitting there
- 29:21Speaker 3: and he looked around and he kind of looked up
- 29:23Speaker 3: at the heavens and he kind of nodded.
- 29:25Speaker 1: It was like this.
- 29:26Speaker 3: Really cool, really emotional moment, you know. And they got
- 29:30Speaker 3: to work together several times as well. A couple of
- 29:32Speaker 3: WrestleManias actually, and then Sena did some Randy Orton moves,
- 29:36Speaker 3: including an RKO and everybody popped styles. He was busting
- 29:41Speaker 3: out some moves too. You know, he used the Shawn
- 29:43Speaker 3: Michael sweet Chin music. Now he never got to work
- 29:45Speaker 3: with Shawn Michaels. I know he very much wanted to.
- 29:49Speaker 3: He just never got that chance. What a match that
- 29:51Speaker 3: would have been. But you know, he used the stinging
- 29:55Speaker 3: Scorpion death drop and the Coquina clutch from Samoa Joe.
- 30:00Speaker 3: Michael Cole never mentioned Samoa Joe, but he did say
- 30:02Speaker 3: Cokina clutch. He hit an Angel's Wings as a tribute
- 30:06Speaker 3: to Christopher Daniels and then a dead eye fade to
- 30:10Speaker 3: black as a tribute to Frankie Kazari. And I mean
- 30:13Speaker 3: there was other stuff too, Undertaker, the choke slam that
- 30:15Speaker 3: Sena did to him, and the fans wanted seeing it
- 30:19Speaker 3: to do a six P one nine, which would have
- 30:21Speaker 3: been hilarious, and that got cut off.
- 30:23Speaker 1: So that was.
- 30:25Speaker 3: Really the majority of the match was that. And I'm
- 30:28Speaker 3: sure some people will look at that and go, wow,
- 30:30Speaker 3: this sucks. I don't know why people, because I already
- 30:33Speaker 3: saw some comments under the YouTube video. I don't understand
- 30:37Speaker 3: why people think this match was good. It was just
- 30:39Speaker 3: stealing other people's moves and it was finisher spam. And
- 30:43Speaker 3: I said this in my review. If it was almost
- 30:45Speaker 3: anybody else, if Cody Rhoades and Seth Rollins had gone
- 30:49Speaker 3: out there and they had this kind of a match
- 30:52Speaker 3: where all they did was just steal and spam moves
- 30:54Speaker 3: from other people and get near falls, right, that probably
- 30:58Speaker 3: would have turned me off. But in this case, I
- 31:01Speaker 3: don't mind it. You know, it was it was just
- 31:04Speaker 3: the atmosphere and the circumstances around this match. I could
- 31:07Speaker 3: tell why they were doing what they were doing, and
- 31:09Speaker 3: they were having fun doing it. The fans were having
- 31:12Speaker 3: fun doing it. We don't have a whole lot of
- 31:14Speaker 3: time left to see these guys in the ring, you know,
- 31:18Speaker 3: and seen it. Now finally, in this retirement run, after
- 31:20Speaker 3: so much wasted time, is able to go out there
- 31:23Speaker 3: and have fun with it in a way that he
- 31:25Speaker 3: wasn't able.
- 31:25Speaker 1: To before because he had to be the heel and
- 31:27Speaker 1: he had to be scared.
- 31:28Speaker 3: He had to kick people in the dick and hit
- 31:30Speaker 3: him in the head with the belt and it was
- 31:31Speaker 3: fucking terrible. So I don't mind it, it added to
- 31:35Speaker 3: the match, it made it a very fun match. And
- 31:38Speaker 3: the other thing also, And I can't believe I didn't
- 31:40Speaker 3: pick up on this, because I definitely noticed it in
- 31:42Speaker 3: their Royal Rumble match in twenty seventeen when Sena one
- 31:45Speaker 3: number sixteen, they had that great match at the Alamodome.
- 31:49Speaker 3: One of the great things about that match is that
- 31:51Speaker 3: they never left the ring. They went to the apron
- 31:54Speaker 3: right styles would go to the apron to do the
- 31:56Speaker 3: phenomenal form, but they never left the ring. They didn't
- 31:59Speaker 3: go out outside and use weapons and garbage and plunder
- 32:02Speaker 3: and do table spots on the announced desk and pick
- 32:04Speaker 3: up the ring steps and go through the timekeeper's barricade
- 32:07Speaker 3: and all the bullshit that we see in every fucking
- 32:10Speaker 3: match in wrestling these days. It's so fucking overdone. They
- 32:13Speaker 3: didn't do any of that. Like the Rumble match, they
- 32:17Speaker 3: kept it in the ring. They never left the ring
- 32:21Speaker 3: a single time in that entire match. I can't believe
- 32:25Speaker 3: I didn't notice it. But that's just one of those
- 32:27Speaker 3: little things about it that just makes it even better
- 32:29Speaker 3: to me, because there's just such an over reliance on
- 32:31Speaker 3: all of this other stuff, and there's a place for it,
- 32:33Speaker 3: but when everybody does it in every single match, it
- 32:35Speaker 3: just gets very old. They didn't have to rely on that,
- 32:39Speaker 3: so they had a great match. John Ceno won as
- 32:41Speaker 3: I expected him to. They hugged and embraced and it
- 32:45Speaker 3: was just, you know, this great moment and it was
- 32:48Speaker 3: easily the highlight of the night. It was the best
- 32:50Speaker 3: thing on the entire show. The show was not a
- 32:53Speaker 3: bad show if you take this match out, but it
- 32:55Speaker 3: was not nearly as good if you take this match out.
- 32:58Speaker 1: Now.
- 32:58Speaker 3: Also, let me point out John, there's some news here.
- 33:01Speaker 3: This comes from Dave Meltzer and The Observer this past week,
- 33:03Speaker 3: John Cena has his final match coming up Saturday Night's
- 33:07Speaker 3: main event December thirteenth. According to Meltzer, we now know
- 33:12Speaker 3: who his final opponent is going to be, and according
- 33:15Speaker 3: to him, according to current plans, the plan is for
- 33:19Speaker 3: Gunther to wrestle John Cena in his final match, he says.
- 33:23Speaker 3: Multiple WWE sources confirm the name this past week, with
- 33:27Speaker 3: two saying that the current plan is for the company
- 33:30Speaker 3: to build it up by announcing a tournament where the
- 33:33Speaker 3: winner would face John Cena. Says, keep in mind plans
- 33:36Speaker 3: chained frequently but we also got a storyboard which listed
- 33:40Speaker 3: the goals of where they are going on some of
- 33:42Speaker 3: the major shows, and the only match listed for that
- 33:45Speaker 3: Saturday Night's main event was John Cena against Gunther. Now
- 33:50Speaker 3: that doesn't mean that that will be the only match
- 33:51Speaker 3: on that show. The Saturday Nights main event shows are
- 33:55Speaker 3: usually two hours. This is these next two will be
- 33:59Speaker 3: interesting thing to see if that changes, if they go
- 34:02Speaker 3: a little bit longer, just because they're not on NBC
- 34:05Speaker 3: anymore the show. I don't know how it is internationally,
- 34:08Speaker 3: but in the US going forward they will only be
- 34:11Speaker 3: on Peacock, so I'm hoping we don't have the same,
- 34:15Speaker 3: you know, onslaught of commercials in the middle of the
- 34:17Speaker 3: matches like we used to have on NBC. So I
- 34:20Speaker 3: don't know how that might affect the length of the show,
- 34:22Speaker 3: if it's going to be longer, if it's going to be,
- 34:24Speaker 3: you know, shorter, I don't I can't imagine it's shorter,
- 34:27Speaker 3: So I don't know. I'm sure there will be at
- 34:29Speaker 3: least a couple of other matches on that show. I
- 34:31Speaker 3: can understand logistically if it's not really feasible to just
- 34:35Speaker 3: have John Cena against Gunther and then fill the rest
- 34:37Speaker 3: of the show up with tributes. I would not, you know,
- 34:41Speaker 3: put together a full card for that show. You know
- 34:44Speaker 3: it should be seen a Gunther and if you want
- 34:45Speaker 3: to have maybe two other big matches, I would just
- 34:48Speaker 3: keep it at that. But if the plan is seen
- 34:51Speaker 3: it in Gunther, I like it. I was floating two
- 34:54Speaker 3: names for months as far as a potential final opponent
- 34:56Speaker 3: for John Cena, Gunther or Drew McIntyre. I would be
- 35:00Speaker 3: fine with either one of those. And somebody on the
- 35:03Speaker 3: stream last night asked me about, well, what if John
- 35:07Speaker 3: Cena taps out to Gunther, and I said that would
- 35:10Speaker 3: be a bad idea. I don't see that happening, And
- 35:12Speaker 3: it doesn't make any sense either, because John Cena, his
- 35:16Speaker 3: whole mantra has been never give up as a heel.
- 35:20Speaker 3: If he was still playing heel, him giving up, that
- 35:22Speaker 3: would have made sense, but he's a babyface now and
- 35:27Speaker 3: I don't even think people want to see John Cena
- 35:29Speaker 3: lose in that final match, even though I think he will.
- 35:32Speaker 3: But him giving up or him tapping out a it
- 35:36Speaker 3: doesn't make sense, and B I just think it's.
- 35:38Speaker 1: A bad idea. Now.
- 35:39Speaker 3: What I can see is, let's say Gunther putting him
- 35:41Speaker 3: in a sleeper hole, and John Cena just stays true
- 35:44Speaker 3: to those words and just refuses to give up, and
- 35:47Speaker 3: he passes out. And some people might see that as
- 35:50Speaker 3: being anti climactic. I'm not saying that has to be
- 35:52Speaker 3: the finish, but I definitely would not have him tapping
- 35:56Speaker 3: out or surrendering or anything like that verbally giving up
- 36:00Speaker 3: because it just doesn't fit. It doesn't fit the John
- 36:02Speaker 3: Cena character. And I don't think it really makes a
- 36:05Speaker 3: difference one way or the other. If he gives up
- 36:07Speaker 3: or if Gunther puts him out. It's a win for
- 36:10Speaker 3: gun Thro either way. It's a feather in his cap
- 36:12Speaker 3: that he can now go around and say that he
- 36:14Speaker 3: retired John Ceen.
- 36:15Speaker 1: Right.
- 36:16Speaker 3: He didn't just retire Bill Goldberg. He retired John Sena
- 36:20Speaker 3: as well. And I was talking about AJ styles. You
- 36:23Speaker 3: look ahead to WrestleMania next year. If they get AJ
- 36:26Speaker 3: to that last match, let's say, and it's at WrestleMania.
- 36:30Speaker 3: I like the idea of AJ and Gunther, even if
- 36:33Speaker 3: you forget the scene of stuff. Let's say gun there
- 36:35Speaker 3: is not John Cena's final opponent. I just would like
- 36:37Speaker 3: to see that match. We've never gotten to see AJ
- 36:40Speaker 3: and Gunther in the ring together, So I actually think
- 36:43Speaker 3: he would be at the top of my list for
- 36:46Speaker 3: potential final opponents for AJ styles as well. Maybe that
- 36:49Speaker 3: just becomes his thing, you know, where he could say
- 36:51Speaker 3: I retired all of these different legends. But I also
- 36:54Speaker 3: think that, you know, he's one of those guys that
- 36:57Speaker 3: you know, gives them an opportunity to have just a
- 36:59Speaker 3: great final fucking match, because I just think Guntherer is great.
- 37:04Speaker 3: So anyway that is from Meltzer, it looks like it
- 37:07Speaker 3: will be Gunther. I don't mind the tournament idea. I
- 37:10Speaker 3: think it would be a good way to bring some
- 37:13Speaker 3: real meaning and value to some of the matches that
- 37:16Speaker 3: we would see on television in the lead up to it.
- 37:20Speaker 3: You know, they did something similar for Undertaker. If you
- 37:22Speaker 3: remember Undertaker's opponent for WrestleMania twenty nine, how they decided
- 37:27Speaker 3: his opponent that year. I think it was a fatal
- 37:29Speaker 3: four way match and that's how CM Punk got the shot,
- 37:33Speaker 3: and that just I just thought that was a terrible
- 37:36Speaker 3: way to go about doing that. And I actually think
- 37:37Speaker 3: the writer who came up with that idea ended up
- 37:40Speaker 3: getting either demoted or fired. But in this case, this
- 37:44Speaker 3: is a little bit different. You know, this is not
- 37:45Speaker 3: just it's another WrestleMania match, it's another Undertaker, you know WrestleMania. No,
- 37:50Speaker 3: this is a big deal. Like this is in many
- 37:52Speaker 3: ways bigger than some of the championships in this company.
- 37:57Speaker 3: You get to be the one to go in there
- 37:58Speaker 3: for the final time against guy who they tell you
- 38:01Speaker 3: every single.
- 38:01Speaker 1: Week is the goat.
- 38:02Speaker 3: Right, he's the greatest of all time and he's the
- 38:05Speaker 3: last real champion. So it's going to be a very
- 38:08Speaker 3: coveted spot that a lot of people are going to
- 38:10Speaker 3: want to fight for. I like the idea if you
- 38:12Speaker 3: do a tournament of having some of his old opponents
- 38:15Speaker 3: in there. There's no reason you cannot have someone like Seamus,
- 38:19Speaker 3: for example, be in a tournament like that. You can
- 38:22Speaker 3: get another Gunther shamous match out of it. You could
- 38:25Speaker 3: have other people too. Me you want to have rusce
- 38:27Speaker 3: Evan there, you want to have Miz some of the
- 38:29Speaker 3: people he was paying homage to in that match last night,
- 38:32Speaker 3: and you build a little tournament around it. You could
- 38:34Speaker 3: even tie it into current storylines. You got the Mizz
- 38:37Speaker 3: and Carmelo Hayes are beefing on SmackDown and the idea
- 38:40Speaker 3: that maybe Carmelo Hayes, you know, one of the younger
- 38:43Speaker 3: talents that John Cena has never had the chance to wrestle,
- 38:46Speaker 3: put him in the tournament and we can get a
- 38:48Speaker 3: Miz and Mellow match out of it in the tournament,
- 38:51Speaker 3: and you know, maybe they end up sort of canceling
- 38:54Speaker 3: each other out. But I'm just using that as an
- 38:56Speaker 3: example where you can use a current storyline. It kind
- 38:59Speaker 3: of feed into this and you can use it in
- 39:02Speaker 3: that way as well. So I don't think that's a
- 39:04Speaker 3: bad idea at all. As far as the rest of
- 39:07Speaker 3: the car we had the two Crown Jewel title matches
- 39:10Speaker 3: Seth Rollins. He had to win this. I mean, there
- 39:12Speaker 3: was no reason for Cody. Cody literally had nothing to gain.
- 39:15Speaker 3: There was nothing on the line here really except the
- 39:18Speaker 3: meaningless championship that we're not going to see again for
- 39:20Speaker 3: another twelve months. But Cody he won last year. He
- 39:25Speaker 3: had nothing to gain. Not only did he win last year,
- 39:28Speaker 3: he came into this up three to zero on Seth
- 39:30Speaker 3: Rollins in singles matches.
- 39:32Speaker 1: Seth Rollins.
- 39:33Speaker 3: They tried to tell this story about I have to win,
- 39:35Speaker 3: I have to win this, and Paul Hayman was teasing,
- 39:38Speaker 3: you know, if you don't win, you're gonna lose everyone's respect,
- 39:41Speaker 3: and that could very well be the end of the vision.
- 39:44Speaker 3: They were really leaning in hard on that. I was
- 39:47Speaker 3: happy that we had a real story they tried to
- 39:49Speaker 3: create at least around this match, because again, the Crown
- 39:52Speaker 3: Jewel title, it might look nice, but it don't mean shit.
- 39:56Speaker 3: So at least this one, unlike the women's match, had
- 39:58Speaker 3: an actual story built around it. Stephanieva Ker and Tippety
- 40:01Speaker 3: Stratton had nothing. It was two baby faces, champion against champion.
- 40:05Speaker 1: They went in there.
- 40:06Speaker 3: They're not on the same brand, so we never really
- 40:08Speaker 3: see them interact, and the interaction we've had from them
- 40:11Speaker 3: the last few weeks was very just surface level, you
- 40:15Speaker 3: know stuff. There's really nothing to it. And they had
- 40:18Speaker 3: a match and it wasn't great. You know, it was good,
- 40:20Speaker 3: it wasn't great, and that was it. I mean, it's
- 40:24Speaker 3: like okay, So at least Cody and Seth had a
- 40:26Speaker 3: little more than that. I thought Cody and Seth had
- 40:29Speaker 3: a strong match. I didn't like it as much as
- 40:31Speaker 3: some people did. This This was one of those instances
- 40:35Speaker 3: where they went it won near fall. Too many and
- 40:39Speaker 3: some of the big moves they were doing, and I
- 40:41Speaker 3: thought they was At some point it dragged for me
- 40:43Speaker 3: and I thought it was kind of dull, and then
- 40:45Speaker 3: it kind of picked up more at the end. So
- 40:48Speaker 3: it was a strong match. It wasn't a favorite of mine.
- 40:50Speaker 3: It was the outcome that I expected. There was no
- 40:52Speaker 3: outside interference from any of the Vision members. There wasn't
- 40:55Speaker 3: any new Vision member. I'm gonna be talking about that
- 40:58Speaker 3: here in a second. But what it came down to
- 41:01Speaker 3: was him using the watch. He wore the watch to
- 41:04Speaker 3: the ring, the watch that Cody gifted him after WrestleMania
- 41:07Speaker 3: last year in Philadelphia when Seth was his shield, and
- 41:12Speaker 3: he thought at first, I don't know. He put the
- 41:14Speaker 3: watch on his fist at one point he was going
- 41:16Speaker 3: to use it, and he's like, ah, I can't. He
- 41:18Speaker 3: takes the watch off and he puts it on the
- 41:20Speaker 3: mat in the corner. But then they came back around
- 41:22Speaker 3: to it a few minutes later and he popped him
- 41:24Speaker 3: right in the head with it, right in the chin,
- 41:26Speaker 3: and he ended up beating Cody with the help of
- 41:29Speaker 3: the watch. So I guess, you know, Cody, Cody didn't
- 41:34Speaker 3: really watch himself. I'm sorry, I guess it. Really, it
- 41:39Speaker 3: wasn't his time last night. All right, that's an I
- 41:42Speaker 3: promise that's the last one. On the women's side, it
- 41:45Speaker 3: was Stephanie Vequerre. She got the win over Tiffany Stratton
- 41:49Speaker 3: to win the Crowns World Championship. This title took up
- 41:52Speaker 3: almost the entire front half of her body. It was
- 41:54Speaker 3: so big just watching Triple h strap the title around
- 41:58Speaker 3: I say around her waist, he trapped. He strapped the
- 42:00Speaker 3: title around her body like it was a fucking bomb.
- 42:04Speaker 3: So on the post show, one of the questions I
- 42:07Speaker 3: had in my review was what's next for Stephanie. I'm
- 42:09Speaker 3: the post show. Stephanie said that she would like to
- 42:12Speaker 3: face Rhea Ripley next and that could be a wrestle
- 42:15Speaker 3: media match. But it's almost like, if they don't go
- 42:17Speaker 3: with Rhea soon, who else do they go with? Right,
- 42:20Speaker 3: So we're probably gonna get Stephanie and riea sooner rather
- 42:22Speaker 3: than later. One of the things I talked about was
- 42:25Speaker 3: though my fear and it may end up being completely unfounded.
- 42:30Speaker 3: I hope it is because Stephanie. I love Stephanie. Stephanie's great,
- 42:34Speaker 3: She's a total star. She's a great wrestler, and she
- 42:38Speaker 3: deserves all the success that has come her way, but
- 42:40Speaker 3: is it too much too soon? Because she got called
- 42:43Speaker 3: up to the main roster and it wasn't very long
- 42:46Speaker 3: and they put the Women's World Championship on her, which
- 42:48Speaker 3: I don't believe they would have done had they gone
- 42:50Speaker 3: through with the original plan for her in Naomi in Paris.
- 42:54Speaker 3: I feel like they would have ended up waiting a
- 42:56Speaker 3: little bit longer, which is what I would have done.
- 42:58Speaker 3: I would have taken my time with it. I would
- 42:59Speaker 3: have built up to it at some point next year.
- 43:02Speaker 3: And instead she had that great match with Eo.
- 43:04Speaker 1: She won.
- 43:05Speaker 3: She's the champ right, didn't even sniff the IC title.
- 43:09Speaker 3: First she went right for the Women's World Championship. Now
- 43:12Speaker 3: she wins the Crown Jewel Championship. She's got a belt,
- 43:14Speaker 3: she's got a ring. It's coming up ass for Stephanie Vicaire.
- 43:20Speaker 3: The problem you run into, though, is you get to
- 43:23Speaker 3: a point where people are going to look at this
- 43:24Speaker 3: and go, you know, she's being shoved down our throat.
- 43:29Speaker 3: They've given her everything, right, what's left for her to do?
- 43:33Speaker 3: And after a while things might get a little stale
- 43:36Speaker 3: and some of the fans. Not all the fans, but
- 43:39Speaker 3: some of the fans may start to turn against Stephanie
- 43:42Speaker 3: and they may start going, oh, man, I can't wait
- 43:44Speaker 3: for liv Morgan to come back, and I hope Live
- 43:46Speaker 3: beats her. We got to put the belt on Live.
- 43:48Speaker 3: We gotta put the belt on this person or whoever
- 43:50Speaker 3: it may be. That's the risk that you run by
- 43:53Speaker 3: doing this if they don't have a really good feud
- 43:57Speaker 3: or story for her in mind. I just I hope
- 44:01Speaker 3: they have something in mind where they come up with
- 44:03Speaker 3: something really good for her to do, because it's gonna.
- 44:06Speaker 1: Get real boring after a while.
- 44:08Speaker 3: If she just won everything and she just keeps beating people,
- 44:12Speaker 3: there has to be some element of struggle. And that's
- 44:15Speaker 3: the thing I worry about. She hasn't struggled. There's been
- 44:17Speaker 3: no struggle at all. There's been no obstacle for her
- 44:20Speaker 3: to overcome. It's just it really does feel like it's
- 44:23Speaker 3: been handed to her, whether you think she deserves it
- 44:26Speaker 3: or not. That's what they've done, and that's great for
- 44:29Speaker 3: her for now, But three or four months from now
- 44:34Speaker 3: are we going to feel the same way. So that's
- 44:37Speaker 3: the only thing I think they have to be careful
- 44:38Speaker 3: of Ria and EO. They beat Oscar and Kyrie in
- 44:42Speaker 3: the tag team match. I thought that was a good match.
- 44:44Speaker 3: Rio was always winning in Perth. I mean, come on
- 44:47Speaker 3: the issues between the four of them. I don't know
- 44:50Speaker 3: about the four of them, but certainly EO and Oscar.
- 44:52Speaker 3: We still have to get that match with them, and
- 44:54Speaker 3: I could see them doing that on Saturday Night's main event,
- 44:57Speaker 3: which is coming up on November first. Bronson Reid got
- 45:02Speaker 3: the biggest win of his career beating Roman Reigns. Absolutely
- 45:06Speaker 3: the right decision to make. I thought it was the
- 45:09Speaker 3: wrong decision back in Paris when they had Roman beat him.
- 45:13Speaker 3: But if the plan was always to come back with
- 45:15Speaker 3: this match and give Read the big win in his
- 45:17Speaker 3: home country, then I'm okay with that. Because he had
- 45:22Speaker 3: to win this match. He had to to go in
- 45:24Speaker 3: there and lose twice to Roman Reigns. It just would
- 45:27Speaker 3: have been death for this guy. It's like, oh, well,
- 45:29Speaker 3: this guy can't, boy, this guy can't win the big one, Caddy.
- 45:33Speaker 3: He beat a man who, outside of Cody Rhodes, nobody
- 45:36Speaker 3: else in his singles match has pinned Roman Reigns outside
- 45:40Speaker 3: of Bronson Reid now since twenty nineteen. You would have
- 45:43Speaker 3: to go back before COVID to find the last time
- 45:47Speaker 3: that someone pined Roman Reigns in a singles match, and
- 45:50Speaker 3: that person, of all people was King Corbin fucking might mean.
- 45:54Speaker 3: My god, that's how far back it would go if
- 45:56Speaker 3: you were to look back at his win loss record.
- 46:00Speaker 3: Now he's in this, you know, very very exclusive club
- 46:03Speaker 3: with Cody Rhodes and also someone who has pinfall wins
- 46:07Speaker 3: over Roman Reigns and Kazuchka Okada when Okada was still
- 46:10Speaker 3: rocking and rolling back in the New Japan days. You know,
- 46:13Speaker 3: I'm not talking about Okada now in aw and so
- 46:18Speaker 3: they are all knotted up at one win apiece. They
- 46:20Speaker 3: could come back and run it back again and have
- 46:22Speaker 3: a third match. Maybe that's a Saturday Night's main event match,
- 46:26Speaker 3: but this was something that was needed also, and Seth
- 46:29Speaker 3: winning was needed because the Vision is going to end
- 46:31Speaker 3: up on the heel side in wargames. I'm sure at
- 46:33Speaker 3: Survivor Series you got to keep them strong going into
- 46:36Speaker 3: that show. Now, of course there's some bloodline drama because
- 46:40Speaker 3: when the match was over, Roman who lost in part
- 46:43Speaker 3: because his cousin jay Usso accidentally speared him through a
- 46:47Speaker 3: table that was propped up in the corner in this
- 46:49Speaker 3: street fight here, and because Reid had help from bron
- 46:53Speaker 3: Breaker who came out, but then the USOS came out,
- 46:56Speaker 3: so in effect, they kind of cancel each other out.
- 46:58Speaker 3: There was actually more out there on Roman's side than
- 47:03Speaker 3: Reid had on his side, and Red still got the wind.
- 47:06Speaker 1: But it backfired.
- 47:06Speaker 3: The usso's interference or the USO's help backfired, and so
- 47:10Speaker 3: that was the real story here. And so when the
- 47:12Speaker 3: match was over, Roman was obviously very upset and he
- 47:14Speaker 3: looked over at them and said, people think I can't
- 47:17Speaker 3: do shit on my own. He goes, I love you, guys,
- 47:20Speaker 3: I don't want to see you though. I don't want
- 47:21Speaker 3: to see you until Christmas. And Jay was very upset
- 47:25Speaker 3: about this, and he's yelling at Jimmy after Roman left
- 47:28Speaker 3: and said, I'm out. You know this is He's always
- 47:30Speaker 3: been like that, I'm out.
- 47:31Speaker 1: I'm out.
- 47:32Speaker 3: So a lot of problems going on right now within
- 47:35Speaker 3: the bloodline, and this will feed into, you know, whatever
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- 49:54Speaker 1: Now.
- 49:54Speaker 3: I mentioned the Meltzer News this week about John Cen
- 49:58Speaker 3: his final match in Set Nights Made event. There was
- 50:01Speaker 3: a lot of other dudes that came out of Meltzer
- 50:03Speaker 3: in The Observer this week Saturday Nights Made event on
- 50:06Speaker 3: the thirteenth, we already know it's John Sted his final match,
- 50:09Speaker 3: but before that, there's another one coming up on November
- 50:11Speaker 3: first in Salt Lake City, and he says that currently
- 50:14Speaker 3: there are three matches scheduled, with seth Rawlins against CM
- 50:18Speaker 3: punk as the headline attraction for the World Heavyweight Championship.
- 50:23Speaker 3: He says, the other matches are Tiffany Stratton against Jade
- 50:26Speaker 3: Cargill for the WWE Women's title. And I mean, I
- 50:31Speaker 3: don't know what the purposes of going back to that,
- 50:33Speaker 3: but if they're going back to it, that just feels
- 50:36Speaker 3: like it has to be a title change.
- 50:37Speaker 1: Otherwise, what the hell is the point in going back
- 50:39Speaker 1: to it?
- 50:40Speaker 3: And he says the other matches Drew McIntyre against Jacob
- 50:43Speaker 3: Fought two, which is listed as a match where the
- 50:45Speaker 3: winner would get a shot at Cody Rhodes for the
- 50:48Speaker 3: WWE Championship. Now McIntyre against Fat two is actually scheduled
- 50:53Speaker 3: for SmackDown this Friday, so I assume that would mean
- 50:57Speaker 3: we're not going to get a clean cut winner, and
- 50:58Speaker 3: then maybe they run it back at Saturday Night's main
- 51:01Speaker 3: event they say the winner gets Cody for the WWE Championship.
- 51:04Speaker 3: That feels like Survivor Series. And I've talked about this recently.
- 51:09Speaker 3: We talked about this. Coming out of Russell Palooza. There
- 51:11Speaker 3: was a report that Cody and Drew had pitched an
- 51:14Speaker 3: idea to WWE Creative for how to book the finish
- 51:18Speaker 3: of their championship match on that show. And obviously, if
- 51:21Speaker 3: that's true, that idea was shot down or delayed because
- 51:25Speaker 3: that's not how the match played out. But the idea
- 51:27Speaker 3: was a great one where Randy Orton gets involved and
- 51:30Speaker 3: ends up accidentally costing Cody the WWE Championship and the
- 51:34Speaker 3: title ends up on McIntyre. Things are still set up
- 51:37Speaker 3: in such a way where they could absolutely do that,
- 51:40Speaker 3: but do it at Survivor Series, And in fact, that's
- 51:42Speaker 3: the idea that I endorse. Do a title change there
- 51:45Speaker 3: on that show, and you could get Randy Orton involved
- 51:48Speaker 3: in that way where he accidentally or accidentally on purpose
- 51:52Speaker 3: cost Cody the WWE Championship, and then you just go
- 51:55Speaker 3: from there. And even if Drew only has a run
- 51:57Speaker 3: of you know, a couple months or something, it's a
- 52:00Speaker 3: great way to shake things up and make things a
- 52:02Speaker 3: little more interesting and loop it back into this whole
- 52:06Speaker 3: Cody and Randy thing, because the direction has to be
- 52:09Speaker 3: getting us to Cody Roads and Randy Orton. They've given
- 52:12Speaker 3: us so many teases for it that at some point
- 52:14Speaker 3: soon we have to actually get the match.
- 52:16Speaker 1: So that could absolutely work. I like that idea.
- 52:19Speaker 3: He mentions that Survivor Series at Petco Park in San
- 52:22Speaker 3: Diego is listed as Cody Rhods defending against the winner
- 52:25Speaker 3: of that match on Saturday Night's Made Event. He also
- 52:27Speaker 3: says that Dominic Mysterio is currently scheduled for an Intercontinental
- 52:32Speaker 3: title defense against John Cena, which not that we didn't
- 52:39Speaker 3: already know this, but kind of gives away the outcome
- 52:41Speaker 3: of Dom's title defense against Penta in Perth on Raw tomorrow.
- 52:46Speaker 3: But he says that Sena only has limited dates left
- 52:50Speaker 3: and so this will be one of his last, maybe
- 52:52Speaker 3: possibly even the second to last. I guess it would
- 52:54Speaker 3: be the second to last match, right. It would have
- 52:56Speaker 3: to be, because the only other show after Survivor Series
- 52:59Speaker 3: is his last show, so Dominic Mysterio would be his
- 53:03Speaker 3: second to last opponent ever if this is true, and
- 53:06Speaker 3: it would be John Cena challenging for the Intercontinental title
- 53:09Speaker 3: and going for the Grand Slam that everybody seems so
- 53:12Speaker 3: keen on John Cena winning me, I can't bring myself
- 53:15Speaker 3: to get very excited about it. To me, I don't
- 53:17Speaker 3: give a shit like John Cena. They already call him
- 53:19Speaker 3: the greatest of all time. They build him up like
- 53:21Speaker 3: he's this mythical figure seventeen world championships. Who gives a
- 53:26Speaker 3: shit if he wins the Intercontinental title and wins a
- 53:30Speaker 3: meaningless Grand Slam. He's won every other championship, Seriously, who cares.
- 53:35Speaker 3: He's been WWE Champion, he's been World Heavyweight Champion, he's
- 53:39Speaker 3: been United States Champion, he's been a tag team champion.
- 53:42Speaker 3: He's won multiple Royal Rumbles, He's been in multiple WrestleMania
- 53:46Speaker 3: main events.
- 53:47Speaker 1: Have I missed anything?
- 53:48Speaker 3: He's never been King of the Ring, he hasn't won
- 53:51Speaker 3: one of those big crown jewel belts. But he's done
- 53:54Speaker 3: all that he needs to do and winning the Intercontinental
- 53:57Speaker 3: title at this point, I'm sorry it doesn't move me. Oh,
- 54:00Speaker 3: I don't really give a shit either way. I don't
- 54:02Speaker 3: see the need to put that title on him. I
- 54:04Speaker 3: would not book him to win the Intercontinental Championship. But
- 54:09Speaker 3: that's just how I feel about it. I think people
- 54:11Speaker 3: just make way too much about Oh, he's got to
- 54:13Speaker 3: win the Grand Slam. No he doesn't, He really doesn't. Now,
- 54:16Speaker 3: let's talk about these war Games matches. The Wargames plans
- 54:21Speaker 3: as of a week ago on the men's side had
- 54:25Speaker 3: a team of CM Punk Roman Reigns, Jay Usso, Jacob
- 54:31Speaker 3: faugh II, which kind of gives away who would be
- 54:34Speaker 3: challenging Cody for the WWE Championship on that show, along
- 54:39Speaker 3: with an unknown fifth man not yet decided, but it
- 54:43Speaker 3: would be between Jimmy Usso and La Knight. Apparently those
- 54:46Speaker 3: are the two candidates at this point, taking on a
- 54:49Speaker 3: heel team of Seth Rollins, bron Breaker, Bronson Reid who
- 54:53Speaker 3: hopefully stays off the top of the cage this year,
- 54:57Speaker 3: brock Lesner, who will definitely stay off the top of
- 55:01Speaker 3: the cage no shooting star presses in Wargames, brock Lesner,
- 55:07Speaker 3: and Austin Theory.
- 55:11Speaker 1: Yes.
- 55:11Speaker 3: I had to do a double take when I read this.
- 55:15Speaker 3: So the two notable items he says is that even
- 55:17Speaker 3: with Lesner's win over John Cena at Russell Palooza and
- 55:21Speaker 3: the teases in recent you know Cody's recent promo. It
- 55:25Speaker 3: now looks like Cody Rhodes against Brock Lesner is scheduled
- 55:30Speaker 3: at some point. I fucking hope not. The biggest surprise
- 55:36Speaker 3: is Austin Theory's name being involved here. He says Theory
- 55:39Speaker 3: has been out with an injury. They spent a year
- 55:42Speaker 3: plus building a split between Grayson Waller and Austin Theory
- 55:45Speaker 3: that seemed to be building toward Theory as a babyface.
- 55:49Speaker 3: Then Theory was injured and it was just dropped cold.
- 55:52Speaker 3: Now it looks like he's coming back as a main
- 55:54Speaker 3: event level heel when he left as an undercard comedy guy.
- 56:00Speaker 3: He says he is one of those guys who, because
- 56:01Speaker 3: of his look, will get more chances to be a
- 56:04Speaker 3: top guy, even if he's not over like a top guy,
- 56:07Speaker 3: because the powers that be look at him and think
- 56:09Speaker 3: he looks like a star. Austin Theory has a great look, right,
- 56:15Speaker 3: he's in shape. He's just he looks like somebody that
- 56:18Speaker 3: you would pick out of a lineup if you said, hey,
- 56:21Speaker 3: you know who can I put on my poster to
- 56:23Speaker 3: be on my professional wrestling show? Right, And he's a
- 56:26Speaker 3: very good wrestler. You know, he's had some good matches before,
- 56:29Speaker 3: he's got the tools. He just hasn't been able to
- 56:31Speaker 3: put it all together, and Creative has not been kind.
- 56:33Speaker 1: To him either.
- 56:34Speaker 3: To be honest, one of the few people who can
- 56:37Speaker 3: say they got to win over John Cena at WrestleMania
- 56:39Speaker 3: and it was completely wasted. It was a waste of
- 56:43Speaker 3: a John Cena loss at WrestleMania. They wasted it. And
- 56:49Speaker 3: Dave is absolutely right in that theory has been booked
- 56:52Speaker 3: as a I came say mid card as an undercard
- 56:56Speaker 3: comedy guy for the last couple of years, and it's
- 57:01Speaker 3: just a very weird thing that if this is accurate,
- 57:04Speaker 3: the plan is to bring him back in a top
- 57:08Speaker 3: heel role on the show, when the last time we
- 57:11Speaker 3: saw him he wasn't even able to get TV time.
- 57:14Speaker 3: All the segments that he and Grayson Waller had very
- 57:17Speaker 3: similar to The New Day Now, where a lot of
- 57:18Speaker 3: it is like during the commercial breaks and it's off
- 57:21Speaker 3: camera or it's off TV, and this is how you're
- 57:24Speaker 3: going to bring him back. That's a big leap of faith.
- 57:28Speaker 3: It sounds like a big leap of faith that they're
- 57:30Speaker 3: taking on Austin theory. From the same people who had
- 57:32Speaker 3: the power to book him in a much more prominent
- 57:35Speaker 3: position the last couple of years and shows not to
- 57:37Speaker 3: do so. Now we're supposed to believe that, oh, they're
- 57:39Speaker 3: going to book Austin Theory like a top guy. They're
- 57:41Speaker 3: going to book him like a top heel. Triple H
- 57:43Speaker 3: has had the book now for a couple of years.
- 57:46Speaker 3: Color me skeptical that they are that invested in Austin Theory.
- 57:50Speaker 3: It would be quite the turnaround. But if it's true,
- 57:55Speaker 3: that tells me that if they're doing Seth Rollins and
- 57:58Speaker 3: cm Punk, it's Saturday Night's main event. That's where we
- 58:01Speaker 3: get Theory debuting as the newest member of the Vision,
- 58:04Speaker 3: and he costs CM punk because cmpunk is not winning
- 58:07Speaker 3: the World Championship on that show, and we get Theory
- 58:11Speaker 3: added to that group. Jacob Fatu being added to wargames
- 58:15Speaker 3: on the surface here makes no sense, so there would
- 58:18Speaker 3: have to be a storyline reason for him to join.
- 58:21Speaker 1: I suspect there will be.
- 58:22Speaker 3: I was gonna say, Roman turns to Jacob, you know,
- 58:26Speaker 3: a different member of the family instead of Jimmy and Jay,
- 58:30Speaker 3: because he's pissed at them right now and he turns
- 58:32Speaker 3: to Jacob for help and Wargames, but Jay is listed
- 58:34Speaker 3: as being in the Wargames match and possibly Jimmy two,
- 58:37Speaker 3: so that wouldn't really make sense. I would rather them
- 58:40Speaker 3: set up like Brock Lesner against Fatu coming out of this,
- 58:43Speaker 3: than Lesner challenging Cody for the WWE Championship. I have
- 58:46Speaker 3: no interest in seeing that whatsoever, So having them on
- 58:50Speaker 3: opposite sides that could lead to something with Lesner and
- 58:53Speaker 3: fa Tu that would interest me.
- 58:55Speaker 1: Like I'm looking at.
- 58:56Speaker 3: This though, like this honestly feels like a Wargames match
- 58:59Speaker 3: that would be better suited for four on four and
- 59:02Speaker 3: not five on five, just because oh, that's the way
- 59:04Speaker 3: we always do it. It's gotta be five on five. No,
- 59:06Speaker 3: it doesn't. You could do four on four. You don't
- 59:10Speaker 3: have to do anything. You could do it whichever way
- 59:13Speaker 3: you want now, he claims. The women's war Games match
- 59:18Speaker 3: at this point is listed as aj Lee, Rhea, Ripley,
- 59:21Speaker 3: Charlotte Flair, Alexa Bliss, and Eosky against Becky lynch Oska, Kyrie,
- 59:26Speaker 3: saying Naya Jacks and Lash Legend. Lash Legend getting called
- 59:33Speaker 3: up is something that we have talked about recently in
- 59:37Speaker 3: the Q and a super chat portion on one of
- 59:40Speaker 3: the streams, somebody asked me about potential NXT call ups
- 59:43Speaker 3: this week and her name was brought up. Lash Legend,
- 59:47Speaker 3: just like Obafemi, are gonna make fine additions to the
- 59:50Speaker 3: main roster. But so would Jordan Grace Show, so would
- 59:54Speaker 3: Blake Monroe, so would sol Ruka. Right, take your pick.
- 59:57Speaker 3: You can't call them all up at the same time.
- 1:00:00Speaker 3: But Lash Legend, had you know from the last match
- 1:00:03Speaker 3: of hers that I saw, and God was it?
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: The was the Battle Royal they did at Evolution.
- 1:00:08Speaker 3: I think she was one of the last ones right
- 1:00:09Speaker 3: in that Battle Royal at Evolution. She has made some
- 1:00:12Speaker 3: great strides and great improvements since the early days of
- 1:00:15Speaker 3: two point zero. All Right, I have to give her credit.
- 1:00:18Speaker 3: I think that she's gonna do well and she could
- 1:00:21Speaker 3: be a real standout attraction once she hits the main roster.
- 1:00:24Speaker 3: Her being on this team again, like the Austin theory thing.
- 1:00:27Speaker 3: When I looked at this, I had to do a
- 1:00:28Speaker 3: double take, like, where the fuck did that come from?
- 1:00:32Speaker 3: Lash and Naya being on the same team. I could
- 1:00:35Speaker 3: see something happening there where they end up feuding coming
- 1:00:37Speaker 3: out of it and they try to push lash as
- 1:00:40Speaker 3: a babyface on the SmackDown side, Like I could see
- 1:00:44Speaker 3: that visual of her like slowly hoisting Naya up for
- 1:00:48Speaker 3: like a big body slam and them treating that like
- 1:00:50Speaker 3: a big deal, Like when she did that with Otis
- 1:00:53Speaker 3: that one time on NXT and the people went nuts.
- 1:00:55Speaker 3: Met three hundred people of the fucking PC. But like,
- 1:00:57Speaker 3: imagine her doing that in front of ten thousand people, right,
- 1:01:01Speaker 3: they would lose their minds. Becky and aj leading their
- 1:01:05Speaker 3: own teams would make sense, right, We have to get
- 1:01:07Speaker 3: that match at some point for the Intercontinental title. The
- 1:01:11Speaker 3: rest of the lineup that I'm looking at here is
- 1:01:13Speaker 3: fairly believable, But I mean there's some two K twenty
- 1:01:16Speaker 3: five stuff going on here with some of these lineups.
- 1:01:20Speaker 3: We'll see what actually pans out. I'm not against it, though,
- 1:01:23Speaker 3: you know, this product needs a shakeup and getting some
- 1:01:27Speaker 3: new names in the mix, or names that we haven't
- 1:01:29Speaker 3: seen in a while up in higher positions on the card.
- 1:01:33Speaker 3: I'm all for trying something new, like even Jacob being
- 1:01:37Speaker 3: involved in wargames with the top names, like that's where
- 1:01:40Speaker 3: he belongs. They just need to make sense of why
- 1:01:42Speaker 3: he's there.
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: Now. One man who will not be in wargames.
- 1:01:48Speaker 3: I can guarantee you this, And he was briefly gone
- 1:01:51Speaker 3: from WWE, but now he's back. Is Santos Escobar. PW
- 1:01:57Speaker 3: Insider mentioned earlier in the week when this whole saga
- 1:02:00Speaker 3: began here that unless there was a last second hail
- 1:02:03Speaker 3: Mary pass that leads to him agreeing to a new deal,
- 1:02:06Speaker 3: Santos Escobar will depart WWE as of midnight. At that
- 1:02:11Speaker 3: point he will be a free agent and available to
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: wrestle or sign anywhere he wishes. We are told his
- 1:02:17Speaker 3: contract expires at the end of the day and that
- 1:02:19Speaker 3: WWE made overtures to keep Escabar, including a higher contract offer,
- 1:02:24Speaker 3: but he turned down the offer. So then PW Insider
- 1:02:28Speaker 3: after that had some more information on what was going on,
- 1:02:31Speaker 3: and they said from multiple sources that it has nothing
- 1:02:35Speaker 3: to do with money. Sources within WWE confirmed that the
- 1:02:39Speaker 3: word making the rounds within the company is that Escobar
- 1:02:42Speaker 3: was offered a raise as part of a new deal,
- 1:02:44Speaker 3: but that he turned that down. We are told that Escobar,
- 1:02:47Speaker 3: according to sources that have spoken with him in recent weeks,
- 1:02:50Speaker 3: made it clear that he wasn't concerned about getting a
- 1:02:53Speaker 3: raise as much as he was concerned about having a
- 1:02:56Speaker 3: laid out plan to show how he would be utilized
- 1:02:59Speaker 3: by the company going forward. We were told that it
- 1:03:02Speaker 3: wasn't even so much of a concern about getting a
- 1:03:04Speaker 3: big push, but about locking himself in when there wasn't
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: a plan and then being in a situation where he
- 1:03:10Speaker 3: would be spinning his wheels instead of performing in the ring.
- 1:03:14Speaker 3: Then on Wednesday, so this like the midnight deadline came
- 1:03:19Speaker 3: and went and he would have officially become a free agent.
- 1:03:22Speaker 3: And then on Wednesday, PW Insider confirmed the WWE and
- 1:03:28Speaker 3: Santos Escobar have come to terms on a new deal
- 1:03:32Speaker 3: and that he is back with the promotion, just days
- 1:03:35Speaker 3: after his contract expired. That left the second generation Lucastar
- 1:03:40Speaker 3: a free agent. We are told that WWE management considered
- 1:03:43Speaker 3: Escobar's creative concerns and we are told made Escobar a
- 1:03:48Speaker 3: sizeably larger offer than any of their previous overtures. At
- 1:03:52Speaker 3: that point, Escobar agreed to terms. The belief is that
- 1:03:55Speaker 3: they came to an agreement late in the day yesterday.
- 1:04:00Speaker 3: This would have been on Tuesday. I guess there is
- 1:04:02Speaker 3: no word when Escobar will be back on the road,
- 1:04:05Speaker 3: but he is signed with the company once again, and
- 1:04:08Speaker 3: then per F FOURW online, they said Escobar's new contract
- 1:04:12Speaker 3: is said to be a very big money deal with
- 1:04:15Speaker 3: a lot of perks. I haven't seen anything mentioned about
- 1:04:19Speaker 3: his creative demands is not really the right word, but
- 1:04:23Speaker 3: his creative concerns being addressed. All I hear is like
- 1:04:27Speaker 3: they offered him a lot more money in a much
- 1:04:29Speaker 3: bigger deal and some perks, you know, maybe some time
- 1:04:32Speaker 3: off or you know.
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything about his creative concerns.
- 1:04:36Speaker 3: So the question I have now is was the financial
- 1:04:39Speaker 3: offer so great that he just said I can't say
- 1:04:43Speaker 3: no to this, or did they, in fact, you know,
- 1:04:46Speaker 3: put something in writing. I don't know that they would
- 1:04:48Speaker 3: have put something in writing necessarily, but did they address
- 1:04:50Speaker 3: his creative concerns? Because I completely understand where he's coming from.
- 1:04:54Speaker 3: He just wants to know, dude, are you going to
- 1:04:56Speaker 3: use me in any meaningful way? Like I'm not looking
- 1:05:00Speaker 3: for a guarantee that I'm going to be the champion.
- 1:05:02Speaker 3: I'm not looking for a guarantee I'm going to be
- 1:05:04Speaker 3: headlining plees. But like we haven't even seen him on
- 1:05:07Speaker 3: TV in months, Like he's been doing nothing, so it's
- 1:05:11Speaker 3: a perfectly valid concern. I would want to know the
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: same thing. I'm not saying you have to put pen
- 1:05:16Speaker 3: to paper and sketch out my next six or twelve months,
- 1:05:19Speaker 3: But for God's sakes, tell me if you actually plan
- 1:05:21Speaker 3: to use me in a meaningful way, and if not,
- 1:05:24Speaker 3: I will go somewhere else.
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: Now.
- 1:05:27Speaker 3: According to bodyslam dot Net, Escobar was scheduled to defeat
- 1:05:31Speaker 3: l Eho del Vikingo for the Triple A Mega Championship
- 1:05:34Speaker 3: before his WWE deal officially ran out at midnight on
- 1:05:38Speaker 3: October sixth. And I'm a little confused on this timeline
- 1:05:41Speaker 3: because obviously vi Kingo had already lost the Mega title
- 1:05:45Speaker 3: to Dominic Mysterio. It's not like he just lost that
- 1:05:49Speaker 3: championship last week. So when when was that plan? Like,
- 1:05:54Speaker 3: was the original plan going back a couple of months
- 1:05:57Speaker 3: for Escabar to win the title, but as he resisted
- 1:06:00Speaker 3: let's say their contract renewal offers, they decided to go
- 1:06:02Speaker 3: in a different direction and put it on dom and
- 1:06:04Speaker 3: dom was the backup. Is that what I'm hearing here?
- 1:06:09Speaker 3: They say this title win was fully mapped out as
- 1:06:12Speaker 3: part of Escobar's rise within Triple A following its acquisition
- 1:06:16Speaker 3: of WWE, he was not going to be alone. Angel
- 1:06:20Speaker 3: and Humberto were reportedly slotted to capture the Triple A
- 1:06:25Speaker 3: World Tag team titles alongside Escobar's push. The storyline was
- 1:06:29Speaker 3: meant to reset their position within the new Triple A
- 1:06:32Speaker 3: WWE structure, but once Escobar decided not to renew his contract,
- 1:06:36Speaker 3: those creative plans were dropped. Everything that had been in
- 1:06:40Speaker 3: motion was shelved before it ever reached TV. With him
- 1:06:43Speaker 3: back in WWE after deciding to resign, it remains to
- 1:06:46Speaker 3: be seen if these original plans are brought back to
- 1:06:50Speaker 3: the table. So that sounds like they had a long
- 1:06:52Speaker 3: term plan here, and you know, the title going to
- 1:06:55Speaker 3: Dominic was actually meant for Escobar. So again, are we
- 1:06:59Speaker 3: going to see, you know, kind of a reset where
- 1:07:03Speaker 3: they do end up getting around to kind of the
- 1:07:06Speaker 3: destination they wanted to get to, which was Escobar as
- 1:07:09Speaker 3: the Mega Champion. Did that idea now fall to the wayside?
- 1:07:13Speaker 3: Does he not want to, you know, spend his time
- 1:07:15Speaker 3: in trip I would imagine he probably doesn't mind. I mean,
- 1:07:18Speaker 3: the more the merrier, right, Look at dom He's got
- 1:07:20Speaker 3: a title in WWE. He's got a title in Triple A.
- 1:07:23Speaker 3: He's going back and forth between the US and Mexico.
- 1:07:26Speaker 3: He's a bigger star now than he's ever been in
- 1:07:28Speaker 3: his life. So I'm sure if they told Escobar, hey,
- 1:07:31Speaker 3: we want to put the Mega title on you, and
- 1:07:32Speaker 3: you'll split your time between there and here, he would
- 1:07:36Speaker 3: probably love that. I don't know now if those plans
- 1:07:38Speaker 3: are are out the window completely or if they're going
- 1:07:41Speaker 3: to come back around to it or not. He's a
- 1:07:43Speaker 3: very talented guy. Santos Escobar is never going to be
- 1:07:46Speaker 3: WWE champion. It's just not going to happen. But he's
- 1:07:50Speaker 3: very talented. You know, he can cut promos, he can work,
- 1:07:54Speaker 3: he can like all the things you would want him
- 1:07:56Speaker 3: to do. He can do, and he can be, you know,
- 1:07:58Speaker 3: a solid guy to have in that mid card on
- 1:08:02Speaker 3: Raw or on SmackDown. And if you want to surround
- 1:08:04Speaker 3: him with other people like Los Guars, if you want
- 1:08:06Speaker 3: to add other members, you know, to the fold and
- 1:08:09Speaker 3: create a whole heal faction out of it, you could
- 1:08:12Speaker 3: do that too. So I'm glad they were able to
- 1:08:14Speaker 3: come to an agreement. I'm glad that they were able to,
- 1:08:16Speaker 3: you know, find some common ground that apparently he's going
- 1:08:19Speaker 3: to end up with a much better deal now than
- 1:08:21Speaker 3: he had before. I think it speaks volumes about how
- 1:08:25Speaker 3: Triple H and WWE felt about Carrying Cross. That his
- 1:08:29Speaker 3: contract was coming due and he very clearly wanted to resign,
- 1:08:34Speaker 3: and then they really didn't show all that much of
- 1:08:36Speaker 3: an interest in bringing him in Scarlett back, and he
- 1:08:39Speaker 3: wasn't very impressed by the offer that they made to him,
- 1:08:42Speaker 3: and he's no longer in WWE. That is not a work.
- 1:08:46Speaker 3: Santos Escobar says, I don't want to resign. Let's his
- 1:08:49Speaker 3: contract expire. They come back to him and blow them
- 1:08:52Speaker 3: away with some amazing offer, and now he's back in
- 1:08:55Speaker 3: the company. I think that says a lot about certain
- 1:08:59Speaker 3: people in the hierarchy there in that company that were
- 1:09:01Speaker 3: not happy with Carry and Cross. But they gave Escobard
- 1:09:05Speaker 3: the deal that they did. They wanted him back, and
- 1:09:07Speaker 3: one would hope that means that they actually have plans
- 1:09:09Speaker 3: to use him. So I hope, so I hope he
- 1:09:13Speaker 3: I'm sure that he felt like, Okay, I'm comfortable that
- 1:09:17Speaker 3: they have, you know, indicated to me, they actually have
- 1:09:19Speaker 3: plans for me. It would be very shitty if they
- 1:09:22Speaker 3: kind of led him to believe that and then re
- 1:09:23Speaker 3: signed him and now and now it's like he's in
- 1:09:25Speaker 3: the same spot he was in before. I would certainly
- 1:09:28Speaker 3: hope that's not the case. But good for him, you know,
- 1:09:30Speaker 3: he got himself a better deal and now hopefully he'll
- 1:09:32Speaker 3: get himself a better push now. The NXTTNA Showdown on Tuesday.
- 1:09:38Speaker 3: I watched that and Dynamite at the same time. They
- 1:09:41Speaker 3: went head to head. I hope I never have to
- 1:09:43Speaker 3: do that again, but we'll probably be back next year
- 1:09:45Speaker 3: doing the same thing. Because Dynamite had title Tuesday, they
- 1:09:48Speaker 3: were bumped from Wednesdays because of baseball. I thought they
- 1:09:52Speaker 3: were both solid shows. I like the NXT show more.
- 1:09:56Speaker 3: On that show, there was a title for title match.
- 1:09:58Speaker 3: It was the hard Ease and Dark State NXT Tag
- 1:10:01Speaker 3: Team titles on the line, TNA tag team titles on
- 1:10:04Speaker 3: the line, and the Hardys win the NXT titles, the
- 1:10:07Speaker 3: first TNA talents to actually win gold from WWE, and
- 1:10:12Speaker 3: naturally it was the Hardy's. It was not a TNA original.
- 1:10:16Speaker 3: It was the Hardys, who are already looked at as
- 1:10:19Speaker 3: WWE guys anyway, right, it was a safe choice for
- 1:10:21Speaker 3: them to put the belts on them, and the Hardys
- 1:10:24Speaker 3: now are on this expedition of gold again as they
- 1:10:26Speaker 3: were many years ago, where they have multiple sets of
- 1:10:28Speaker 3: tag team titles. Now we find out, according to Fightful,
- 1:10:32Speaker 3: that their deal with TNA their deals with TNA, unless
- 1:10:37Speaker 3: they have very quietly signed an extension or a new deal,
- 1:10:41Speaker 3: they are due to expire next month because they had
- 1:10:45Speaker 3: re signed with the company in November of twenty twenty
- 1:10:48Speaker 3: four on one year deals. So TNA source is told
- 1:10:53Speaker 3: Fightful select the deal has been mutually beneficial and a
- 1:10:56Speaker 3: lot of positive has emerged from it. The Hardys have
- 1:10:59Speaker 3: regularly stayed eight hours after TNA shows to fulfill heavily
- 1:11:02Speaker 3: in demand meet and greets, and unless a new extension
- 1:11:07Speaker 3: was quietly reached, their current deals are about to expire
- 1:11:10Speaker 3: very soon and the company is hopeful but not certain,
- 1:11:14Speaker 3: that they will resign Matt and Jeff Hardy.
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: And it's not just the Hardys.
- 1:11:18Speaker 3: Sources within TNA have revealed that no less than a
- 1:11:22Speaker 3: dozen contracts are set to expire between now and the
- 1:11:25Speaker 3: end of the year, including several names that have already
- 1:11:28Speaker 3: been reported, including the Inspiration Right, the former Iconics and
- 1:11:33Speaker 3: Cedric Alexander and many are expected to stay, but nothing
- 1:11:36Speaker 3: is official until it's official, so we'll see how that
- 1:11:39Speaker 3: plays out. I think the Hardys have a good deal
- 1:11:43Speaker 3: going right now where they're on WWE television, obviously in
- 1:11:48Speaker 3: a limited capacity, but they're on WWE television. They're literally
- 1:11:51Speaker 3: holding WWE belts right now. But they work for TNA, then,
- 1:11:56Speaker 3: I'm sure they get paid well by TNA, and they
- 1:11:59Speaker 3: still have the freedom to go out and do signings,
- 1:12:02Speaker 3: and they have the freedom to go out and work
- 1:12:04Speaker 3: independent promotions like House of Glory right in other places
- 1:12:08Speaker 3: that they would not be able to do if they
- 1:12:10Speaker 3: had full time, you know, or even part time WWE contracts.
- 1:12:16Speaker 3: The question is do they think they could get more
- 1:12:18Speaker 3: money and get better deals by working for WWE, Because
- 1:12:21Speaker 3: think about it like this, I don't know what they're
- 1:12:23Speaker 3: making in TNA, right, I'm sure they're not getting paid peanuts, right,
- 1:12:26Speaker 3: they probably have very good deals. They probably would be
- 1:12:29Speaker 3: making more money. I think it's safe to say if
- 1:12:32Speaker 3: they were to sign with WWE, right even if they
- 1:12:34Speaker 3: signed like a short two year deal to kind of
- 1:12:37Speaker 3: end their careers, Let's say in WWE, they'll get some
- 1:12:41Speaker 3: of that TKO money if they're not making as much
- 1:12:45Speaker 3: money for TNA as they would be making working for WWE,
- 1:12:49Speaker 3: but they're working WWE shows.
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: I could see where it's like, wait a.
- 1:12:54Speaker 3: Minute, WWE, It's clear what they're getting out of it.
- 1:12:58Speaker 3: They're getting the benefit of using the hard but they
- 1:13:00Speaker 3: don't have to pay the hardies. Then if I'm Matt
- 1:13:03Speaker 3: and Jeff, I'm looking at that and going, Okay, we
- 1:13:05Speaker 3: need to have a conversation here about, you know, kind
- 1:13:08Speaker 3: of what we want to do because this is a
- 1:13:10Speaker 3: little unfair. And again I don't know the numbers and
- 1:13:13Speaker 3: the terms, but I could see where maybe they would
- 1:13:15Speaker 3: look at it and go, Okay, we have to reevaluate
- 1:13:17Speaker 3: our entire situation here, because boy, they're really they're getting
- 1:13:20Speaker 3: us at a discount, you know, in effect. So I
- 1:13:24Speaker 3: think for TNA, you do what you can to keep
- 1:13:26Speaker 3: them because they're one of the biggest attractions they have
- 1:13:29Speaker 3: right now. And TNA is looking now to get television,
- 1:13:31Speaker 3: like a new television deal that's probably going to be
- 1:13:34Speaker 3: announced any month now. I would think at least to start,
- 1:13:37Speaker 3: you would want an attraction like the Hardy's on your show.
- 1:13:41Speaker 3: You know, you don't want to go into this new
- 1:13:42Speaker 3: TV deal and then you'll lose them. So if I'm
- 1:13:45Speaker 3: Carlos Silvan TNA, I'm doing everything I can to try
- 1:13:47Speaker 3: to retain their services. If that means you got to
- 1:13:49Speaker 3: pay them more, well you better find the money and
- 1:13:51Speaker 3: pay them more, because I think they've proven to be
- 1:13:54Speaker 3: worth it. But they had Ethan Paige and Mustafa Ali
- 1:13:58Speaker 3: for the North American title that stole the show. That
- 1:14:01Speaker 3: was the best match on either show Tuesday night. I
- 1:14:03Speaker 3: fucking great match. Ali is so good and Pages as well.
- 1:14:07Speaker 3: Ethan retains the North American Championship in an excellent match,
- 1:14:11Speaker 3: and then they had two Survivor Series style elimination matches,
- 1:14:14Speaker 3: which made me just really wish that Triple H would
- 1:14:17Speaker 3: still have one or two traditional Survivor Series matches, just
- 1:14:21Speaker 3: you know, just to maintain the tradition. But I guess,
- 1:14:24Speaker 3: you know, you'd have to do one for the men,
- 1:14:26Speaker 3: you'd have to do one for the women, and you
- 1:14:28Speaker 3: already have two War Games matches, and that's that's a
- 1:14:31Speaker 3: bit much. But they had Team NXT on the women's side,
- 1:14:36Speaker 3: beating Team TNA, which was captained by NXT star Kilanie Jordan,
- 1:14:41Speaker 3: because Klanie Jordan is currently the Knockouts champion, so the
- 1:14:45Speaker 3: NXT women led by j C. Jane took the win there.
- 1:14:49Speaker 3: And speaking of which, there was a tag team match
- 1:14:52Speaker 3: at an NXT House show in Columbus, Ohio on Thursday
- 1:14:57Speaker 3: where j C. Jane, the NXT Women's Champion, suffered an
- 1:15:01Speaker 3: apparent leg injury in a tag team match that pit
- 1:15:05Speaker 3: her and Fallon Henley against Soul, Ruka and Zaria. One
- 1:15:09Speaker 3: report indicated that Jane suffered a possible quadriceps injury during
- 1:15:13Speaker 3: the bout and tagged out of the match for the finish.
- 1:15:16Speaker 3: The report goes on to state that the referee threw
- 1:15:19Speaker 3: up the dreaded X, indicating a legitimate injury, and that
- 1:15:22Speaker 3: medical personnel had to help Jce to the back following
- 1:15:26Speaker 3: the match. She's been the NXT Women's Champion since May.
- 1:15:30Speaker 3: She even had a brief run as the TNA Knockouts champion.
- 1:15:34Speaker 3: She was actually the one who beat Stephanie Vecaer, who
- 1:15:37Speaker 3: hasn't lost very many matches this year. That might be
- 1:15:39Speaker 3: the only one that she lost.
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: She lost to j C. Jane, So that tells you
- 1:15:43Speaker 1: what Sean Michaels thinks of j C. Jane.
- 1:15:46Speaker 3: You hate to hear about anybody getting hurt. I have
- 1:15:48Speaker 3: not seen any updates on her conditions since, and this
- 1:15:50Speaker 3: was days ago, so I don't know if it's a
- 1:15:53Speaker 3: serious injury.
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: Maybe it's not. I hope it's not, but we'll.
- 1:15:57Speaker 3: See if we hear anything this week on Tuesday, because
- 1:16:01Speaker 3: if she has a serious injury, then we'll know about
- 1:16:03Speaker 3: it by then. Now Team TNA won on the men's side,
- 1:16:08Speaker 3: they beat Team NXT. Team TNA was captained by Mike Santana.
- 1:16:12Speaker 3: Team NXT was captained by the NXT Champion. Ricky says
- 1:16:16Speaker 3: that he had the TNA World Heavyweight Champion on his team.
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: The TNA World Heavyweight.
- 1:16:22Speaker 3: Champion is an NXT star who wrestled for Team NXT
- 1:16:27Speaker 3: because Team TNA and Santino Morello, the Director of Authority,
- 1:16:31Speaker 3: did not trust Trick Williams, which that at least made sense,
- 1:16:36Speaker 3: But it's still funny to me that we had the
- 1:16:38Speaker 3: TNA World Champion representing Team NXT and guess what, Santino
- 1:16:44Speaker 3: was right, Tricky Dicky cannot be trusted because he walked
- 1:16:48Speaker 3: out on his partner. He left Ricky Saints Hy in
- 1:16:50Speaker 3: dry and I think it came down to Mike Santana
- 1:16:54Speaker 3: and Moose they were the sole survivors. They won it
- 1:16:56Speaker 3: for Team TNA. Now I mentioned that j c J
- 1:17:00Speaker 3: got heart on a house show this week. There are
- 1:17:02Speaker 3: some main roster names that were set to appear for
- 1:17:05Speaker 3: NXT on their house show tour this weekend. Starting on Thursday,
- 1:17:10Speaker 3: NXT was in the Midwest for three consecutive live events,
- 1:17:15Speaker 3: and they announced that Johnny Gargano and Tamaso Champa would
- 1:17:18Speaker 3: be competing at all three shows, and the MotorCity Machine
- 1:17:22Speaker 3: Guns Alex Shelley and Chris Saban were set for Friday's event,
- 1:17:25Speaker 3: which was in their hometown of Detroit, so they were
- 1:17:28Speaker 3: only wrestling on the Detroit show, and they said Ethan
- 1:17:31Speaker 3: Page would be defending his North American championship on all
- 1:17:34Speaker 3: three shows against yet to be announced opponents. So Thursday
- 1:17:38Speaker 3: they were in Columbus, Friday they were in Detroit at
- 1:17:41Speaker 3: the Masonic Temple where AW hosted Dynamite there a few
- 1:17:46Speaker 3: months ago, and then yesterday they were set to run
- 1:17:51Speaker 3: the Agora Theater in Cleveland, Ohio. And running more house
- 1:17:55Speaker 3: shows outside of Florida is something that Shawn Michaels talked
- 1:18:00Speaker 3: about last month. He was interviewed by Chris Van Vliet,
- 1:18:03Speaker 3: and he said the reception that they get in I
- 1:18:06Speaker 3: don't know, Charleston, or in Augusta, Georgia, and maybe another place,
- 1:18:13Speaker 3: all three would be different. This last time on the road,
- 1:18:17Speaker 3: they all experienced that and it was something that threw
- 1:18:19Speaker 3: them all off and they didn't really understand it because
- 1:18:22Speaker 3: so many of the things that they do all the
- 1:18:24Speaker 3: time didn't work. So those are aspects that they once
- 1:18:28Speaker 3: that Once they experienced that, I can now begin to
- 1:18:31Speaker 3: associate with them on a level that we haven't been
- 1:18:33Speaker 3: able to do before. And I think that's why it's
- 1:18:37Speaker 3: so important. You've got to do these live events. You
- 1:18:40Speaker 3: got to do it, and especially with NXT, it's very
- 1:18:43Speaker 3: important that you get out there on the road outside
- 1:18:45Speaker 3: of that little Florida loop that they've done before. You've
- 1:18:49Speaker 3: got to get them out there in front of actual
- 1:18:51Speaker 3: crowds in other places, other states, other cities, and get
- 1:18:55Speaker 3: them accustomed because they're going to get different reactions in
- 1:18:57Speaker 3: different places.
- 1:18:58Speaker 1: And just like he said in.
- 1:18:58Speaker 3: That interview, like what works in one place or what
- 1:19:01Speaker 3: works in Florida is not going to work somewhere else.
- 1:19:04Speaker 3: It's not going to work in Cleveland. You know, it
- 1:19:06Speaker 3: may not work in Erie, Pennsylvania, and so that's why
- 1:19:10Speaker 3: it's so important to get them out there in front
- 1:19:12Speaker 3: of actual people outside of the PC, outside of these
- 1:19:16Speaker 3: little armories in Florida, and get them experience in front
- 1:19:20Speaker 3: of different crowds, you know. And I think the same
- 1:19:23Speaker 3: thing about the main roster because they've cut down so
- 1:19:25Speaker 3: much on the number of house shows, and I think
- 1:19:28Speaker 3: it's great that they're not running them into the ground
- 1:19:31Speaker 3: by running too many shows, but they just seem intent
- 1:19:34Speaker 3: to keep cutting and cutting and cutting. I mean, they
- 1:19:36Speaker 3: plan on cutting even more live events next year. And
- 1:19:39Speaker 3: I talked about this on Monday. You know, we had
- 1:19:40Speaker 3: a match on raw between Becky Lynch and Maxine Dupre,
- 1:19:43Speaker 3: which was a hell of a lot better than I
- 1:19:46Speaker 3: was expecting.
- 1:19:46Speaker 1: It to be.
- 1:19:47Speaker 3: You could see the little improvements that Maxine has made.
- 1:19:50Speaker 3: Maxine is still not great, but she's made improvements from
- 1:19:54Speaker 3: where she was six months ago and a year ago.
- 1:19:56Speaker 3: But we never get to see her in the ring
- 1:19:57Speaker 3: un raw. So it's like, Okay, well, I hope she's
- 1:20:00Speaker 3: working house shows, and then I realize, like I look
- 1:20:03Speaker 3: at her recent matches, and she's had some main event matches,
- 1:20:07Speaker 3: but she's not having a lot of matches because they
- 1:20:10Speaker 3: don't run hardly any house shows anymore. And she is
- 1:20:14Speaker 3: someone who should be in NXT. She should be on
- 1:20:17Speaker 3: that NXT tour that they ran this weekend. Maybe she was,
- 1:20:20Speaker 3: I don't know, but she was somebody that got plucked
- 1:20:22Speaker 3: out of developmental way too quickly because they had a
- 1:20:25Speaker 3: certain role in mind for her. And if she's going
- 1:20:27Speaker 3: to be a valet, that's fine, but they wanted to wrestle,
- 1:20:29Speaker 3: So why the fuck did you take her out of NXT.
- 1:20:32Speaker 3: That's the whole point NXT was built. It was designed
- 1:20:35Speaker 3: for people like her to improve and learn and cut
- 1:20:38Speaker 3: their teeth and then when the time is right, you
- 1:20:40Speaker 3: call them up to the main roster. So she's had
- 1:20:43Speaker 3: to go through that period of growing pains. And I
- 1:20:46Speaker 3: know she's been training with Natty at her school in
- 1:20:49Speaker 3: Florida and you could see again the improvements that she's made.
- 1:20:53Speaker 3: But she's someone who really suffers, I think, from the
- 1:20:56Speaker 3: lack of live events now when it comes to the
- 1:20:58Speaker 3: main roster, because that's how you get better. You work
- 1:21:01Speaker 3: with people like Natty, you work with people like Becky,
- 1:21:04Speaker 3: maybe you even work with people like you at the
- 1:21:06Speaker 3: same experience level. But you go out there, you're not
- 1:21:08Speaker 3: on television, so you don't have that pressure on you.
- 1:21:10Speaker 3: You go out there for ten, twelve, fifteen minutes, you
- 1:21:13Speaker 3: probably get a lot longer than you would on TV,
- 1:21:15Speaker 3: right TV, Maxine's lucky if she gets fucking four minutes.
- 1:21:19Speaker 3: You go to a live event, she's wrestling nine, ten,
- 1:21:21Speaker 3: twelve minutes, and she's able to try stuff and this works. Oh,
- 1:21:25Speaker 3: this didn't work, you know, and you just you learn.
- 1:21:28Speaker 3: Wrestlers talk about this all the time. She's someone who
- 1:21:32Speaker 3: I think is a victim of their slashing so many
- 1:21:37Speaker 3: live events. So for NXT, it's super important to get
- 1:21:41Speaker 3: them on the road and they should be doing more
- 1:21:44Speaker 3: of that.
- 1:21:46Speaker 1: Now.
- 1:21:46Speaker 3: Bound for Glory is tonight mentioned TNA. I am hoping
- 1:21:51Speaker 3: to go live after the show and do a review.
- 1:21:53Speaker 3: I have not put together any artwork at all so far.
- 1:21:58Speaker 3: By you're just gonna see me on three. There's gonna
- 1:22:00Speaker 3: be nothing else. Yeah, I don't know. If I can't
- 1:22:03Speaker 3: get that done, I don't know what's going to happen.
- 1:22:04Speaker 3: So but I'm hoping I can go live because I
- 1:22:07Speaker 3: am planning on watching the show. And again, if you are,
- 1:22:11Speaker 3: I talk about the VPN all the time with WWE shows.
- 1:22:15Speaker 3: If you want to use it for boun for Glory,
- 1:22:16Speaker 3: it's very easy. You sign into your Express VPN, you
- 1:22:19Speaker 3: find any international pay per view distributor for the show
- 1:22:24Speaker 3: right wherever the show is airing, whether it's trailer or
- 1:22:27Speaker 3: wherever it may be, and you should be able to
- 1:22:30Speaker 3: buy the show, yes by the show for a fraction
- 1:22:35Speaker 3: of what you would.
- 1:22:36Speaker 1: Pay here in the US.
- 1:22:37Speaker 3: I actually have not tried it before with a TNA show,
- 1:22:40Speaker 3: but I would imagine it works the same way. But
- 1:22:42Speaker 3: boun for Glory real quick. Here's the preview. They are
- 1:22:46Speaker 3: inducting Mickey James and the beautiful people into the TNA
- 1:22:50Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. I think that's happening before the show
- 1:22:53Speaker 3: goes Love. The show goes live at seven Eastern, and
- 1:22:56Speaker 3: I think they're doing something at six o'clock with the
- 1:22:58Speaker 3: actual inductions. They're having the Call Your Shot Gauntlet match.
- 1:23:02Speaker 3: They have Tessa Blanchard against gam Miller. They're having a
- 1:23:06Speaker 3: hardcore war with Mustafa Ali, Agent Zero, Jason Hotch, John
- 1:23:14Speaker 3: Schuyler and Tasha Steeles against Eddie Edwards, Moose, Brian Myers,
- 1:23:19Speaker 3: j DC, and Alsia Edwards. That's the system Frankie Kazarian
- 1:23:24Speaker 3: defends the TNA International Championship against Steve Macklin.
- 1:23:27Speaker 1: I'm going with Steve Macklin for the win. There.
- 1:23:30Speaker 3: Leon Slater is defending the X or the NXC the
- 1:23:33Speaker 3: TNA it may as well be TNA X Division Championship
- 1:23:37Speaker 3: defending it against Javon Evans. That match is going to
- 1:23:40Speaker 3: be fucking insane. Kalanie Jordan is defending the Knockouts Championship
- 1:23:45Speaker 3: against Indy Hartwell. We have a tables match for the
- 1:23:48Speaker 3: final time, twenty five years after they innovated the Tables,
- 1:23:52Speaker 3: Ladders and Shares match one last time. The Dudley Boys,
- 1:23:58Speaker 3: Bubba Ray and Devon Team three D. I guess they're
- 1:24:01Speaker 3: calling them because it's TNA taking on the Hardys who
- 1:24:05Speaker 3: are putting their TNA and NXT Tag Team championships on
- 1:24:09Speaker 3: the line. And I could tell you as the commissioner
- 1:24:12Speaker 3: that I would not permit them to defend their Hog
- 1:24:14Speaker 3: Tag Team titles. So the House of Glory Tag team
- 1:24:17Speaker 3: titles will not be on the line. I had to
- 1:24:20Speaker 3: draw the line somewhere here, but the other two sets
- 1:24:23Speaker 3: of titles will be And then in the main event,
- 1:24:24Speaker 3: Mike Santana challenges Trick Williams to try to bring the
- 1:24:27Speaker 3: TNA World Have Youweight Championship back to home base. This
- 1:24:32Speaker 3: has to be it. I didn't mention I got Leon
- 1:24:36Speaker 3: Slater beating Javon Evans, Klanie Jordan retaining over Indy Hartwell,
- 1:24:40Speaker 3: I've got the Hardys beating the Dudleys, and I've got
- 1:24:42Speaker 3: Mike Santana winning in the main event. Don't be surprised
- 1:24:46Speaker 3: if we see a cameo from Ricky Saints giving Santana
- 1:24:49Speaker 3: the assist, especially after Trick walked out on Ricky on Tuesday.
- 1:24:53Speaker 3: I could definitely see that happening. So that is your
- 1:24:56Speaker 3: bound for glory card. Let me mention this here before
- 1:25:00Speaker 3: I get into some aw news. This kind of came
- 1:25:04Speaker 3: out of nowhere and was unexpected, but is sort of entertaining.
- 1:25:09Speaker 3: Paul Haman issued a response to a social media post
- 1:25:14Speaker 3: from former WWE Universal champion Braunz Stroman, where Stroman had
- 1:25:20Speaker 3: called him Oswald cobble pot. Stroman's post on Monday came
- 1:25:25Speaker 3: in response to a line from a Hayman promo on
- 1:25:27Speaker 3: Raw where Hayman said that no one but the Vision
- 1:25:30Speaker 3: had ever forced Roman Reigns to do a stretcher job
- 1:25:34Speaker 3: before Stroman posted an image of an angle where Roman
- 1:25:37Speaker 3: was stretchered out at the hands of Stroman that was
- 1:25:39Speaker 3: many years ago, and then Stroman tipped over the stretcher.
- 1:25:43Speaker 3: Stroman wrote, yeah, okay, Oswald cobble Pot. Of course, for
- 1:25:48Speaker 3: those who don't know, Oswald Cobblepot is the name of
- 1:25:52Speaker 3: the penguin from Batman. Hayman responded in an Instagram story
- 1:25:58Speaker 3: on Wednesday, writing, dear miss Stroman, your post was brought
- 1:26:02Speaker 3: to my attention. I have nothing negative to say about you,
- 1:26:05Speaker 3: nor to you. In fact, I am actually relieved, in
- 1:26:08Speaker 3: indeed celebratory, to learn that you are still alive, something
- 1:26:12Speaker 3: most of us did not realize and even fewer cared about.
- 1:26:15Speaker 3: With love and respect, Paul Hayman. I'm sure the folks
- 1:26:20Speaker 3: at USA Network must be delighted as they begin to
- 1:26:23Speaker 3: promote Stroman's new food show, which is debuting after SmackDown
- 1:26:28Speaker 3: in a couple of weeks that Paul Hayman is posting
- 1:26:30Speaker 3: on social media that nobody even knew this man was alive.
- 1:26:34Speaker 3: So this all stems from there was a beef earlier
- 1:26:37Speaker 3: this year with Hayman and Stroman. If you remember Hayman
- 1:26:41Speaker 3: was on the Pat McAfee show, and this was around WrestleMania.
- 1:26:45Speaker 3: It might have been the night after WrestleMania forty one,
- 1:26:48Speaker 3: and Hayman shared a story that Stroman had approached him
- 1:26:52Speaker 3: crying because he wasn't part of the WrestleMania card. And
- 1:26:57Speaker 3: Hayman said that he told Stroman to his face that
- 1:27:00Speaker 3: he sucks and that's why he was left off the show.
- 1:27:04Speaker 3: So that might be the root of some of the
- 1:27:06Speaker 3: animis here between these two men. Let me get into
- 1:27:09Speaker 3: some aw stuff here. There was a story, a kind
- 1:27:13Speaker 3: of embarrassing story this week regarding the all In Texas
- 1:27:17Speaker 3: attendance from Globe Life Field back in July. This comes
- 1:27:21Speaker 3: from Wressell Nomics. A lower than expected turnout for July's
- 1:27:26Speaker 3: aw all In from Arlington, Texas's Global Life Field will
- 1:27:29Speaker 3: result in the company getting a reduced reimbursement from the state.
- 1:27:33Speaker 3: The news comes from public records obtained by Wressell Nomics
- 1:27:36Speaker 3: that revealed the actual turnstile count aka ticket scan for
- 1:27:40Speaker 3: those coming into the venue at twenty one, nine hundred
- 1:27:44Speaker 3: and seventy three, which included two hundred and seventy four
- 1:27:47Speaker 3: Sweet tickets out of six hundred and seventy eight that
- 1:27:50Speaker 3: were actually sold. Actual attendance in the venue was listed
- 1:27:54Speaker 3: as twenty three thousand, seven hundred and fifty nine according
- 1:27:57Speaker 3: to the documentation, While not specially, the difference could be
- 1:28:01Speaker 3: arena workers and other personnel. The total amount of tickets
- 1:28:05Speaker 3: sold and distributed was not provided in the records. Wressel
- 1:28:08Speaker 3: Tics had previously estimated twenty seven thousand, two hundred and
- 1:28:12Speaker 3: forty five as total distributed. Following the event, AW president
- 1:28:16Speaker 3: Tony Kahan had said that he thought the attendance was
- 1:28:19Speaker 3: nearly twenty nine thousand. In pre show media, he said
- 1:28:23Speaker 3: that all In was nearing the three million dollar mark
- 1:28:25Speaker 3: in gate revenue. Why that scan count matters is the
- 1:28:29Speaker 3: Texas Event Trust Fund, which uses both state and local
- 1:28:32Speaker 3: funding to help cover expenses for certain events coming into
- 1:28:35Speaker 3: the state. AW was set to receive a million dollars
- 1:28:40Speaker 3: in pre approved funding based on a February estimated attendance
- 1:28:45Speaker 3: of thirty three thousand, four hundred and ninety with thirty
- 1:28:48Speaker 3: two thousand, five hundred of those being fans. Arlington City
- 1:28:52Speaker 3: Manager Trey Yelverton confirmed to Wrestle Nomics in the report
- 1:28:56Speaker 3: that AW would end up receiving around seven hundred thousand
- 1:28:59Speaker 3: dollars in reimbursements towards all in costs. Additionally, documentations showed
- 1:29:04Speaker 3: that there was originally both New Japan and CMLL events
- 1:29:08Speaker 3: planned for All In week, in addition to a Chris
- 1:29:10Speaker 3: Jericho Fozzy Swerve Strickland combo concert that never happened. So
- 1:29:17Speaker 3: that's kind of embarrassing. I would say, Yeah, they were
- 1:29:20Speaker 3: talking about twenty nine thousand, you know, thirty thousand people
- 1:29:23Speaker 3: there for All In, and now we find out that
- 1:29:26Speaker 3: the number was actually quite a bit less and they're
- 1:29:30Speaker 3: not in fact getting the million dollars that they were
- 1:29:32Speaker 3: expecting to get. When WWE exaggerates their numbers, we talk
- 1:29:36Speaker 3: about that. If AW does the same thing and they
- 1:29:39Speaker 3: get exposed, we got to talk about that too. Unfortunately,
- 1:29:44Speaker 3: we also got to talk about Coda Ibushi, and this
- 1:29:46Speaker 3: is something I would rather not be talking about. Coda
- 1:29:49Speaker 3: Aboushie made his return at the Collision taping this past
- 1:29:53Speaker 3: week in Jacksonville. They had their homecoming shows from Daily's place.
- 1:29:57Speaker 3: They were live on Tuesday. They taped Coalition on Wednesday,
- 1:30:01Speaker 3: and Cody Ebushi was making his in ring return. The
- 1:30:04Speaker 3: first time we would have seen him since Forbidden Door
- 1:30:07Speaker 3: back in August, and he made his return in a
- 1:30:10Speaker 3: match against Josh Alexander and he got injured, and he
- 1:30:14Speaker 3: got injured very badly and had to be carded to
- 1:30:17Speaker 3: an ambulance outside the venue. They did air the match
- 1:30:20Speaker 3: last night. I was wondering if they were going to
- 1:30:22Speaker 3: keep that in or edit the whole thing out, because
- 1:30:25Speaker 3: they were wrestling for a good I don't know, ten
- 1:30:27Speaker 3: twelve minutes maybe before the injury happened. They did air
- 1:30:31Speaker 3: the full match right up until and through the injury
- 1:30:33Speaker 3: and the postmatch stuff, so we got to see it
- 1:30:36Speaker 3: in living color exactly what happened here, and it was
- 1:30:40Speaker 3: just a complete accident. So what happened was they did
- 1:30:43Speaker 3: a spot where Alexander had Abushie on his shoulders while
- 1:30:47Speaker 3: he was sitting on the top rope, and I don't
- 1:30:50Speaker 3: know what he was going for. I don't know if
- 1:30:53Speaker 3: he was going for a Lambeau plunge or what he
- 1:30:55Speaker 3: was going to do. But Alexander picked up Eboushie on
- 1:30:59Speaker 3: his shoulder. It was in a fireman's carry position and
- 1:31:03Speaker 3: they slipped. It was actually like Alexander was kind of
- 1:31:05Speaker 3: like falling backwards and they fell out of the ring.
- 1:31:09Speaker 3: Alexander actually fell backwards, which was scary enough, and he
- 1:31:13Speaker 3: hit the apron on the way down, but otherwise he
- 1:31:15Speaker 3: was fine. Ibushi just fell straight down. It wasn't even
- 1:31:18Speaker 3: like he fell on his head or anything like that,
- 1:31:20Speaker 3: but he fell and in doing so, he landed badly
- 1:31:25Speaker 3: and he broke his leg, and Doc Samson came out.
- 1:31:30Speaker 3: The referee ended up counting Ibushie out of the ring.
- 1:31:34Speaker 3: Don Kallus then gets on the mic and he cuts
- 1:31:36Speaker 3: a promo and Mark Davis comes out with him. Yes,
- 1:31:39Speaker 3: Mark Davis is back, talk about an uneventful return, and
- 1:31:45Speaker 3: they had him go over and start pounding away on Ibushie,
- 1:31:48Speaker 3: who's laying there in agonizing pain. I mean, at least
- 1:31:51Speaker 3: he didn't hit him in the leg. Kenny Omega runs
- 1:31:54Speaker 3: out with the garbage can to run them off. What
- 1:31:56Speaker 3: they did not show were the house lights then were lowered,
- 1:31:59Speaker 3: medical person and ellissisted Iboushi. Eventually they carried him out
- 1:32:02Speaker 3: on a stretcher to an ambulance. Tony Khan addressed the
- 1:32:05Speaker 3: live audience after the match, saying, most challenging sport of
- 1:32:10Speaker 3: all when it comes to injuries, The hardest hitting sport
- 1:32:13Speaker 3: of all is pro wrestling. Thank you for being respectful.
- 1:32:16Speaker 3: Let's give it up for Koda Ibushi.
- 1:32:20Speaker 1: Now.
- 1:32:20Speaker 3: Ibushi has since confirmed on his Instagram that he underwent
- 1:32:24Speaker 3: successful surgery to repair a broken femur, which is a
- 1:32:28Speaker 3: terrible injury. The femur is the strongest, I think, and
- 1:32:31Speaker 3: longest bone in the human body, and he broke it.
- 1:32:36Speaker 3: Think of all the times he landed on his fucking
- 1:32:38Speaker 3: neck and didn't break his neck, but he broke his femur.
- 1:32:43Speaker 3: And he posted this note along with a photo. There
- 1:32:46Speaker 3: are actually several photos of him in the hospital bed,
- 1:32:49Speaker 3: but one of them he's in the hospital bed holding
- 1:32:51Speaker 3: a bouquet of flowers with a note from Tony Kahan,
- 1:32:53Speaker 3: a handwritten note from him, and Ibushi posted the following,
- 1:32:57Speaker 3: and this is translated. He says again question mark again,
- 1:33:02Speaker 3: I've done nothing but suffer serious injuries. This time it's
- 1:33:06Speaker 3: aphemeral fracture, said thigh bone, and the broken bone was
- 1:33:11Speaker 3: about to pierce through the flesh. It feels like life
- 1:33:15Speaker 3: is telling me enough already.
- 1:33:17Speaker 1: Stop.
- 1:33:18Speaker 3: The surgery was successfully completed, and then he says in parenthesis,
- 1:33:22Speaker 3: if I end up with another serious injury after this,
- 1:33:25Speaker 3: dot dot dot, he said, from now on, I think
- 1:33:28Speaker 3: I'll live as an ordinary person. For about the past
- 1:33:32Speaker 3: five years, I've been constantly breaking, healing and getting into accidents.
- 1:33:36Speaker 3: But this can't be the way it ends. More than anything,
- 1:33:39Speaker 3: the greatest president hashtag Tony Khan and my comrade, the
- 1:33:44Speaker 3: Vice president hashtag Kenny Omega, who helped me with so
- 1:33:49Speaker 3: many things, the best in the world. Aw I never
- 1:33:52Speaker 3: imagined it that the President himself would personally give me
- 1:33:56Speaker 3: a bouquet and a letter after something like that. How
- 1:34:00Speaker 3: could I ever quit? I cried. I don't know if
- 1:34:04Speaker 3: it'll take a year or a year and a half
- 1:34:06Speaker 3: to recover, but I'll start doing whatever I can. Right now,
- 1:34:09Speaker 3: I can only move my toes unbearable pain. I was
- 1:34:14Speaker 3: shocked that I could even still feel pain. Mister Tony Khan,
- 1:34:17Speaker 3: I've got no choice but to keep fighting, And I
- 1:34:22Speaker 3: just feel bad for the guy. This was just a
- 1:34:25Speaker 3: complete freak accident. It wasn't even like he did something
- 1:34:28Speaker 3: that was just really, really crazy, And of course you
- 1:34:31Speaker 3: know that's the risk you take. I mean, they were
- 1:34:34Speaker 3: on the top rope getting ready to do something. There's
- 1:34:36Speaker 3: always going to be risk involved in that, but especially
- 1:34:40Speaker 3: by Yubushi standards, this was really nothing out of the ordinary,
- 1:34:43Speaker 3: and it just was a freak thing that happened. You know,
- 1:34:46Speaker 3: Ibushi is forty three years old with a body that
- 1:34:50Speaker 3: has been ravaged by injuries, and not only the shoulder
- 1:34:54Speaker 3: injury that he suffered in that G one final with
- 1:34:56Speaker 3: Okada a few years ago, but last year he was
- 1:34:59Speaker 3: wrestling with an already broken ankle and he ended up
- 1:35:02Speaker 3: injuring himself even worse. I think he hurt both ankles.
- 1:35:05Speaker 3: That's why he missed so much time, Like that man
- 1:35:08Speaker 3: needed an intervention from someone. He was going down a
- 1:35:12Speaker 3: bad path. Then he comes back this year and he
- 1:35:16Speaker 3: actually looks more like his old self, only for this
- 1:35:19Speaker 3: than that happened. I mean, maybe maybe the wrestling gods
- 1:35:23Speaker 3: are trying to tell him something.
- 1:35:24Speaker 1: I don't know. I could see why he wouldn't want
- 1:35:26Speaker 1: his career to end like that. I'm sure.
- 1:35:27Speaker 3: I'm sure he'll be back, but at some point, like
- 1:35:31Speaker 3: if he does get hurt again, that's it. To me,
- 1:35:34Speaker 3: that's a wrap, Like how much more can one person
- 1:35:37Speaker 3: take here? So I mean, it's just a completely shitty situation.
- 1:35:42Speaker 3: And as far as plans it may have impacted, I
- 1:35:46Speaker 3: assumed you know him coming back now? Why would they
- 1:35:49Speaker 3: bring him back now?
- 1:35:50Speaker 1: Right?
- 1:35:51Speaker 3: Well, we're heading into Blood and Guts in November. We
- 1:35:55Speaker 3: know we're getting a women's blood and Guts. They have
- 1:35:58Speaker 3: not said there won't be a men. We may get
- 1:36:00Speaker 3: one of each, and I know he's been in a
- 1:36:02Speaker 3: previous one with Omega. I could have envisioned a scenario
- 1:36:06Speaker 3: where Omega and Eboushi end up on the baby face
- 1:36:08Speaker 3: side in a blood and Guts match. So it's entirely
- 1:36:11Speaker 3: possible that was what they had planned for him, and
- 1:36:13Speaker 3: if so, they'll have to just find somebody else now,
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- 1:38:57Speaker 3: renewing subscription purchase. AW this week made three new matches
- 1:39:02Speaker 3: official for Wressel Dream, which is coming up next Saturday
- 1:39:05Speaker 3: from Saint Louis, Kazuska Okata and Kenoski Takeshta. They will
- 1:39:10Speaker 3: be taking on Bandido and Brody King for the AW
- 1:39:13Speaker 3: Tag Team titles after their win over the champions in
- 1:39:16Speaker 3: that non title eliminator match on Wednesday. Also added to
- 1:39:20Speaker 3: the card, Jurassic Express will be taking on the Young
- 1:39:24Speaker 3: Bucks in a match with five hundred thousand dollars at
- 1:39:27Speaker 3: stake because the Bucks are broke, there are the Brocass
- 1:39:30Speaker 3: Bucks again. They need money, so they got Tony Kin
- 1:39:32Speaker 3: to put some money on the line in that match,
- 1:39:34Speaker 3: and also added Kyle Fletcher will defend the TNT Championship
- 1:39:38Speaker 3: against Mark Brisco, So that now is added to a
- 1:39:41Speaker 3: card that already had Darby Allen and John Moxley in
- 1:39:44Speaker 3: an I quit match, and Chris Statlander defending the AW
- 1:39:48Speaker 3: Women's World title against Timeless Tony Storm and Hangman Page
- 1:39:52Speaker 3: putting the AW World Championship on the line against Samoa Joe.
- 1:39:57Speaker 3: So there is going to be a three hour Dynamite
- 1:40:00Speaker 3: Collision combo here on Wednesday, oh Joy three hours on
- 1:40:06Speaker 3: Wednesday Night, Trio's titles are on the line. The Ops
- 1:40:10Speaker 3: defend against La Faxion Ingobernable, Kenny Omega and Jurassic Express
- 1:40:16Speaker 3: will team up to take on Josh Alexander Hetchesero and
- 1:40:19Speaker 3: Mark Davis. I love how Kenny Omega was viciously attacked
- 1:40:25Speaker 3: and put out of action for weeks by Kyle Fletcher,
- 1:40:29Speaker 3: and he comes back to TV, doesn't go after Kyle Fletcher,
- 1:40:34Speaker 3: but ends up getting ambushed by Andrade. And now Kenny
- 1:40:38Speaker 3: Omega is tagging the Jurassic Express against the other members
- 1:40:42Speaker 3: of the Don Kallis family and still really nothing from
- 1:40:46Speaker 3: Omega and androde or Omega and Fletcher. So maybe he's
- 1:40:50Speaker 3: just going to make enemies out of each individual member
- 1:40:52Speaker 3: of this faction one by one. I don't know, but
- 1:40:55Speaker 3: John Moxley and Darby Allen are going to have a
- 1:40:57Speaker 3: face to face the Hurt Syndicate are going to be
- 1:40:59Speaker 3: taking on the Game of Agony. Actually, that's another match
- 1:41:02Speaker 3: I believe that was just added last night to the
- 1:41:04Speaker 3: Wrestle Dream Card. They're doing another match between the Hurt
- 1:41:07Speaker 3: Syndicate and the Demand. That's what Ricochet and Goa are
- 1:41:11Speaker 3: calling themselves. Did anybody demand this match. I mean, I
- 1:41:16Speaker 3: guess it's the rubber match, right, They're one and one,
- 1:41:18Speaker 3: so I mean, I guess that makes sense. Claudio Castignoli
- 1:41:22Speaker 3: on Wednesday takes on Roderick Strong, Chris Statlander and Tony
- 1:41:25Speaker 3: Storm will have their famous last words. I guess that
- 1:41:28Speaker 3: last hard sell for their match. Wheeler Yuda and Daniel
- 1:41:31Speaker 3: Garcia take on Orange Cassidy and Kyle O'Reilly and Sky
- 1:41:35Speaker 3: Blue will take on Jamie Hayter and Jamie Hayter and Tekla.
- 1:41:39Speaker 3: That was another match that was added to the Wrestle
- 1:41:41Speaker 3: dream Card. I forgot some of these other editions from
- 1:41:44Speaker 3: Collision last night. Speaking of Collision, there was a backstage
- 1:41:47Speaker 3: segment on Collision that showed Jack Perry, who was still
- 1:41:51Speaker 3: very much dressing up like scapegoat Jack Perry. Even though
- 1:41:54Speaker 3: their back Jurassic Express is reunited and they got their
- 1:41:57Speaker 3: old music back, he still dressed up in the denim.
- 1:42:00Speaker 3: He still has a knife that he carries around with him,
- 1:42:04Speaker 3: and he enters Kenny Omega's locker room and he apologized
- 1:42:07Speaker 3: to Omega for what happened to Cody Abushi earlier in
- 1:42:10Speaker 3: the show and also for his past actions, and he
- 1:42:14Speaker 3: wanted Omega to know that they share a common enemy
- 1:42:17Speaker 3: in the Don Kallis family, and he offered to have
- 1:42:19Speaker 3: Omega's back, and Kenny had no interest in this. He'd
- 1:42:22Speaker 3: declined the offer. He let Perry know he doesn't trust
- 1:42:25Speaker 3: him or his big dumb dinosaur, but he is running
- 1:42:28Speaker 3: low on friends, so if he really wants to prove himself,
- 1:42:31Speaker 3: then he should show up to Dynamite. And again, the
- 1:42:34Speaker 3: match on Wednesday is supposed to be Kenny omegaan Jurassic
- 1:42:38Speaker 3: Express against the Kallus family. And I bring this up
- 1:42:42Speaker 3: because someone sent me this. It was posted on Reddit
- 1:42:46Speaker 3: earlier this week, and it's actually very interesting. I'm just
- 1:42:49Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna paraphrase him. I canna read the entire thing,
- 1:42:52Speaker 3: but it's a scenario that someone floated as it relates
- 1:42:55Speaker 3: to Jack Perry in this supposed reunion of Jurassic Express.
- 1:43:00Speaker 3: This person says, ever since Jurassic Express reunited, I have
- 1:43:05Speaker 3: felt that something was off. I feel that last night's
- 1:43:08Speaker 3: match all but confirmed my suspicions that Jurassic Express is
- 1:43:12Speaker 3: not okay. In the lead up to the reunion, we
- 1:43:16Speaker 3: saw vignettes of what appears to be Jack Perry in
- 1:43:18Speaker 3: a dingy room with Luciasaurus on an operating table and
- 1:43:23Speaker 3: he's shocking him and cutting him like Doctor Frankenstein reviving
- 1:43:26Speaker 3: his monster on Dynamite. We saw them back together in
- 1:43:29Speaker 3: their first match, and it featured Lucasaurus doing all the
- 1:43:32Speaker 3: work and Jack distracting the referee. I think there was
- 1:43:36Speaker 3: also I think he pulled the turnbuckle pad off at
- 1:43:39Speaker 3: one point, but he says that they hit their finish
- 1:43:44Speaker 3: and Jack just stares at the camera with a smirk
- 1:43:46Speaker 3: on his face, which he did, and then they play
- 1:43:49Speaker 3: Baltimore a tarzanboy and everyone's cheering and throwing beach balls around.
- 1:43:53Speaker 3: If Jack Perry is supposed to be a good person,
- 1:43:56Speaker 3: why show these scenes of him doing some really greasy
- 1:43:59Speaker 3: shit to Lucasaur. Why is he trying to cheat? Why
- 1:44:01Speaker 3: is he yelling at Lucasaurus? Why is he smirking? It
- 1:44:05Speaker 3: feels off because Jack Perry is still a villain. Nothing
- 1:44:09Speaker 3: has changed for Jack. He is still carrying knives like
- 1:44:12Speaker 3: a freak. He is still hitting the crucifix pose. He
- 1:44:15Speaker 3: is still cheating. The only difference is the music. He
- 1:44:19Speaker 3: hasn't shown any signs of remorse or that he has changed. Well,
- 1:44:24Speaker 3: who does that remind you of by the way Roman Reigns.
- 1:44:28Speaker 3: I say it all the time. Roman came back after
- 1:44:30Speaker 3: he lost the ww Championship and the people were cheering
- 1:44:34Speaker 3: for him like he was the biggest baby face in
- 1:44:36Speaker 3: the company. And not a damn thing changed in Roman's demeanor,
- 1:44:40Speaker 3: in his behavior, and his presentation.
- 1:44:43Speaker 1: Nothing.
- 1:44:44Speaker 3: He's still a fucking heel. And that will be the
- 1:44:48Speaker 3: only time that you ever hear me compare Roman Reigns
- 1:44:50Speaker 3: to Jungle Boy.
- 1:44:53Speaker 1: But it does.
- 1:44:53Speaker 3: It's a very interesting scenario, and I do think that
- 1:44:55Speaker 3: there is something going on here. I don't think Jack
- 1:44:58Speaker 3: Perry is a He's not Jungle Boy again, He's not
- 1:45:01Speaker 3: coming out in the fucking loincloth. But I think he's
- 1:45:04Speaker 3: still a heel. I think this person's onto something. I
- 1:45:06Speaker 3: think there's something going on here in this reunion of
- 1:45:09Speaker 3: Jurassic Express is probably going to be a short lived thing.
- 1:45:14Speaker 3: The only other thing I wanted to mention here from
- 1:45:15Speaker 3: this was Mercedes Monette. She got a win in her
- 1:45:19Speaker 3: open challenge over Lacey Lane. We had Caden Carter and
- 1:45:23Speaker 3: Katana Chance as a tag team in WWE. She was
- 1:45:26Speaker 3: Caden Carter, so now she's going by the name Lacy Lane.
- 1:45:29Speaker 3: They had a match on Dynamite. It was okay, it
- 1:45:32Speaker 3: wasn't really anything out of this world, but it was
- 1:45:35Speaker 3: the only women's match on that entire two and a
- 1:45:37Speaker 3: half hour show because the women in AW I've noticed
- 1:45:41Speaker 3: are largely relegated to the B Show. They're largely relegated
- 1:45:45Speaker 3: to Collision, which they know gets a much smaller audience.
- 1:45:49Speaker 3: And I love how they announced women's tag team titles,
- 1:45:53Speaker 3: and they also had Jamie Hayters, you know, put that
- 1:45:55Speaker 3: challenge out a couple of weeks ago to women's you know,
- 1:45:57Speaker 3: Blooding Guts, and since then they haven't said anything about
- 1:46:01Speaker 3: either one of them. Now, they still have time before
- 1:46:03Speaker 3: we get to November twelfth, which is when Blood and
- 1:46:05Speaker 3: Guts is going to be, but it's like there's been
- 1:46:08Speaker 3: no real movement yet on that front. Mercedes was in
- 1:46:13Speaker 3: Denmark on Friday and she wrestled a Lessa Ink for
- 1:46:19Speaker 3: the Body Slam Wrestling Championship, a title that Ink has
- 1:46:24Speaker 3: held for more than three years. And guess what happened, everybody,
- 1:46:31Speaker 3: you guessed it. We got Mercedes ten belts. She is
- 1:46:35Speaker 3: ten belts monet, so I believe she is now tie
- 1:46:39Speaker 3: Ultimo Dragon one more championship and she breaks Ultimo Dragon's record,
- 1:46:45Speaker 3: and it's going to happen. In fact, you're not gonna
- 1:46:47Speaker 3: have to wait very long for it, because it's going
- 1:46:49Speaker 3: to happen on Is it Sunday? I believe it's Sunday,
- 1:46:53Speaker 3: October nineteenth. Winnipeg Pro Wrestling is having their Rumble in
- 1:46:58Speaker 3: the Bert in Winnipeg, and I believe Jody Threat is
- 1:47:03Speaker 3: defending her title on that show against Mercedes Todare you go?
- 1:47:08Speaker 3: Mercedes is about to become eleven belts monet after next weekend.
- 1:47:13Speaker 3: For anyone who is tracking this, she really isn't doing
- 1:47:16Speaker 3: fuck all in aw right now, but she's still collecting
- 1:47:19Speaker 3: belts everywhere else, so she'll have another one coming her
- 1:47:22Speaker 3: way in about a week. Some other news and notes,
- 1:47:27Speaker 3: The Los Angeles Times reported on Tuesday that Rajah Jackson,
- 1:47:31Speaker 3: the son of MMA legend Quintin Rampage Jackson, will face
- 1:47:35Speaker 3: two charges concerning his August attack on indie wrestler Psycho
- 1:47:39Speaker 3: Stew that drew worldwide criticism and media attention. Jackson will
- 1:47:44Speaker 3: be charged with one count of felony battery that caused
- 1:47:48Speaker 3: serious bodily injury and one count of misdemeanor battery. The
- 1:47:52Speaker 3: attack took place at a show for Knox Pro Wrestling
- 1:47:55Speaker 3: on August twenty third. What was originally a planned spot
- 1:47:59Speaker 3: turned in to a legitimate situation, with Jackson bloodying Stu
- 1:48:03Speaker 3: and sending him to the hospital. The attack came after
- 1:48:05Speaker 3: Stu had struck Jackson in the head with a beer
- 1:48:07Speaker 3: can backstage. Says prosecutors will also seek a sentencing enhancement
- 1:48:13Speaker 3: because Jackson allegedly caused Stuart Smith, which is Psycho Stu's
- 1:48:17Speaker 3: real name, to suffer great bodily injury. Smith lost several
- 1:48:21Speaker 3: teeth and suffered a laceration on his lip during the attack,
- 1:48:24Speaker 3: which saw Jackson body slam the wrestler and then punch
- 1:48:26Speaker 3: him in the head and face more than twenty times.
- 1:48:30Speaker 1: So that was.
- 1:48:31Speaker 3: Earlier in the week, and then on Thursday, Rajah Jackson
- 1:48:33Speaker 3: made an appearance in court. He pleaded not guilty, which
- 1:48:38Speaker 3: is standard.
- 1:48:38Speaker 1: Ship.
- 1:48:38Speaker 3: People were making a big deal how he play. That's
- 1:48:41Speaker 3: what you're supposed to do. That's just standard. If his
- 1:48:44Speaker 3: lawyer told him to plead any other way, it would
- 1:48:47Speaker 3: be very unusual. But he pleaded not guilty in response
- 1:48:51Speaker 3: to the charges, one of which is a felony that
- 1:48:53Speaker 3: could see him serve up to seven years in jail
- 1:48:56Speaker 3: if convicted. He is facing one count of felony battery
- 1:48:59Speaker 3: and one count of misdemeanor battery, which could see him
- 1:49:02Speaker 3: serving an additional six months for that charge. When approached
- 1:49:06Speaker 3: by TMZ at today's court date in La, Jackson did
- 1:49:09Speaker 3: not offer any comment. His next court appearance is scheduled
- 1:49:12Speaker 3: for at November and per TMZ, wearing a black shirt,
- 1:49:16Speaker 3: black pants, and a black tie, Raja stared ahead as
- 1:49:19Speaker 3: he strolled into the building, flanked by men who appeared
- 1:49:22Speaker 3: to be his lawyers. Also this is from TMZ, it
- 1:49:28Speaker 3: appears Raja Jackson has ended Psycho Stu's time inside the
- 1:49:32Speaker 3: Squared Circle, as one of the wrestler's good friends tells
- 1:49:35Speaker 3: TMZ Sports that he is sure that Stu's in ring
- 1:49:38Speaker 3: career is over following the violent attack. Douglas Mallow, who
- 1:49:43Speaker 3: actually helped rip Jackson off of Psycho Stu during his
- 1:49:46Speaker 3: outburst back in August, sat down with us this week
- 1:49:50Speaker 3: after prosecutors officially levy charges on Rampage Jackson's son, and
- 1:49:55Speaker 3: he told us that he cannot see Stu ever mixing
- 1:49:58Speaker 3: it up between the ropes again.
- 1:50:00Speaker 1: Said.
- 1:50:00Speaker 3: His close friend that I talked to that's throwing this
- 1:50:03Speaker 3: benefit event said that Stu's done with any ring work,
- 1:50:08Speaker 3: said Malo when TMZ asked if he thinks that Stu
- 1:50:10Speaker 3: would like to wrestle again to help find closure, and
- 1:50:14Speaker 3: then I also know about some of the stuff that
- 1:50:15Speaker 3: he was dealing with from when I talked to his
- 1:50:17Speaker 3: wife last and his friends. I don't think being in
- 1:50:20Speaker 3: the ring would ever work again. Malo said that he
- 1:50:24Speaker 3: thinks it would be cool to do an angle where
- 1:50:26Speaker 3: Stue makes a safe for him, reversing the situation that
- 1:50:29Speaker 3: played out when he helped stop Jackson's attack, but Malo
- 1:50:33Speaker 3: doesn't know if even that would be a smart idea.
- 1:50:35Speaker 3: He said that was a lot of damage that he
- 1:50:37Speaker 3: received plus what he was already dealing with. You know,
- 1:50:40Speaker 3: he wasn't necessarily a spring chicken before the event. A
- 1:50:44Speaker 3: show to help Stu is being put on by Valor
- 1:50:47Speaker 3: Pro Wrestling on November fifteenth. Malo is excited to see
- 1:50:51Speaker 3: Stu there and give him a big hug. To this point,
- 1:50:53Speaker 3: Malo has tried to mostly avoid reaching out to Stue
- 1:50:56Speaker 3: directly because he doesn't want Stu to have to relive
- 1:50:58Speaker 3: the trauma that he experienced. Malo also said that he
- 1:51:01Speaker 3: hoped Stu could at the very least do some work
- 1:51:04Speaker 3: in the wrestling world that did not require getting physical.
- 1:51:07Speaker 3: He also said at some point he might file a
- 1:51:10Speaker 3: civil suit against Rajah, noting the attack of him with
- 1:51:13Speaker 3: a hefty hospital bill that he is still on the
- 1:51:16Speaker 3: hook for so. It took long enough, but good. The
- 1:51:21Speaker 3: wheels of justice turned very slowly, but hopefully Rajah Jackson
- 1:51:24Speaker 3: will get what he has coming to him. Former ECWWCW
- 1:51:30Speaker 3: and WWE star Raven scott Levy revealed that he has
- 1:51:34Speaker 3: been diagnosed with early onset Parkinson's disease. Appearing on Wednesday's
- 1:51:40Speaker 3: Ariel Helwane Show. He was promoting his new documentary Never
- 1:51:43Speaker 3: More The Raven Effect, which hits Amazon Prime on November eighteenth,
- 1:51:48Speaker 3: and he said that at this point in his life,
- 1:51:50Speaker 3: he is as content as I've ever been, other than
- 1:51:53Speaker 3: this stupid tremor I got from the Parkinson's. Helwani mentioned
- 1:51:57Speaker 3: that he noticed in the documentary that he was suffering
- 1:51:59Speaker 3: from the disease and asked how he is doing with it.
- 1:52:03Speaker 3: Raven said, I'm lucky it hasn't affected me too bad.
- 1:52:06Speaker 3: When I get anxious the tremor gets worse, or if
- 1:52:08Speaker 3: I'm really tired, I have a sleep disorder. You gotta
- 1:52:12Speaker 3: pay the piper sometime for all the drugs and alcohol
- 1:52:15Speaker 3: and share shots I took to the head. You gotta
- 1:52:17Speaker 3: pay for the damage at some point, admitting that those
- 1:52:19Speaker 3: three things resulted in his current state. He also admitted
- 1:52:23Speaker 3: that he has tons of regrets and that anyone that
- 1:52:25Speaker 3: says they don't is full of shit, but he would
- 1:52:28Speaker 3: not have changed anything. He said, it made me who
- 1:52:31Speaker 3: I am. I am happy with who I am. I
- 1:52:33Speaker 3: would rather be happy with who I am at the
- 1:52:35Speaker 3: end of my life rather than earlier in my life
- 1:52:38Speaker 3: and not be happy.
- 1:52:39Speaker 1: At the end.
- 1:52:41Speaker 3: Also on the health front, we had former WWE star
- 1:52:45Speaker 3: and Nexus member Michael Tarvor. He revealed that he recently
- 1:52:49Speaker 3: suffered a stroke. Sharing a message about the experience Wednesday
- 1:52:54Speaker 3: on his Instagram, he said, last night I was told
- 1:52:56Speaker 3: I was having a stroke. I don't ever emotever sell,
- 1:53:00Speaker 3: as we say in the wrestling business, where I spent
- 1:53:02Speaker 3: twenty years of my life, I told nobody until I
- 1:53:05Speaker 3: was forced to last night.
- 1:53:07Speaker 1: I had at.
- 1:53:07Speaker 3: Two to two over a one fourteen blood pressure reading,
- 1:53:11Speaker 3: and the few people I told right before taking myself
- 1:53:14Speaker 3: to the er. I'm thankful for your persistence and also
- 1:53:18Speaker 3: that I actually listened. I was in my bed for
- 1:53:21Speaker 3: a few hours as they were testing and working to
- 1:53:23Speaker 3: get my blood pressure down, and I actually started to
- 1:53:25Speaker 3: have thoughts about my mortality. What a way to die.
- 1:53:28Speaker 3: I worked two jobs, I trained twice a day. I've
- 1:53:31Speaker 3: never drank or smoked in my life, and to fall
- 1:53:34Speaker 3: asleep and not wake up because of my blood pressure.
- 1:53:37Speaker 3: I thought about my babies, who are all adults now.
- 1:53:39Speaker 3: In all of my years of fighting depression and suicide
- 1:53:43Speaker 3: attempts over the past twenty years, I thought about my family,
- 1:53:46Speaker 3: and I just felt this overwhelming responsibility to get up
- 1:53:49Speaker 3: out of that bed and live. I haven't shared this
- 1:53:51Speaker 3: much detail with anyone, as I am still processing all
- 1:53:54Speaker 3: of the weird emotions that I'm being overcome with. But
- 1:53:57Speaker 3: the sun came up, and so did I. That is
- 1:54:00Speaker 3: a terrible blood pressure reading, by the way, that's very scary.
- 1:54:04Speaker 3: He's forty eight years old. I mean, look, strokes can
- 1:54:06Speaker 3: happen at any age, but you worry more about it
- 1:54:09Speaker 3: as you get older. You know, you worry about a
- 1:54:11Speaker 3: lot of things the older you get. But I mean
- 1:54:13Speaker 3: he's not exactly an old man. He has not wrestled
- 1:54:17Speaker 3: since twenty twenty one. I don't think he's actively wrestling anymore.
- 1:54:21Speaker 3: But scary experience, but thankfully he went to the hospital
- 1:54:25Speaker 3: and got the help he needed. And one more health
- 1:54:28Speaker 3: note here, it feels like the sky is falling.
- 1:54:31Speaker 1: Man.
- 1:54:31Speaker 3: We talk about the Rajah Jackson stuff. We talked about
- 1:54:34Speaker 3: Kodyaboushi and his broken femur, talked about a whole bunch
- 1:54:38Speaker 3: of different things here, but former Men on a Mission
- 1:54:41Speaker 3: member Moe of Moe and Mabel Fame real name Bobby Horn.
- 1:54:45Speaker 3: He could use some positive vibes right now. He is
- 1:54:48Speaker 3: currently in the hospital in the intensive care unit with
- 1:54:50Speaker 3: a severe blood infection and pneumonia, So all the best
- 1:54:55Speaker 3: to him. Dark Side of the Ring is returning for
- 1:54:59Speaker 3: a seventh season. Speaking of Rajai Jackson, I think he'll
- 1:55:03Speaker 3: make for a great episode one day. Maybe when they
- 1:55:05Speaker 3: get to like season ten, they could do an episode
- 1:55:08Speaker 3: on him and his father. They could cover his upbringing
- 1:55:11Speaker 3: and the incident and the time that he's about to
- 1:55:14Speaker 3: spend in the Big House behind bars. A PW insider
- 1:55:18Speaker 3: reported on Tuesday that the show has been renewed for
- 1:55:21Speaker 3: a seventh season by Vice TV. Additionally, they report that
- 1:55:24Speaker 3: the series is actively shooting new episodes and was filming
- 1:55:27Speaker 3: several weeks ago in Louisville, Kentucky. Isn't that where Cornette is?
- 1:55:33Speaker 3: I wonder if they were filming stuff with him. The
- 1:55:35Speaker 3: sixth season premiered back in March, with shows focusing on
- 1:55:38Speaker 3: Superstar Billy Graham, Billy Jack Haynes, Daphne Ludvig Borga, and
- 1:55:43Speaker 3: Mohammad Ali, Muhammad Ali, Mohammad Hamad Ali, Mohammed Hassan. I mean,
- 1:55:50Speaker 3: he does have a connection to wrestling. But so you know,
- 1:55:54Speaker 3: we look ahead here to the seven season. I still
- 1:55:56Speaker 3: watch it. I know some people have checked out in
- 1:55:58Speaker 3: recent seasons, but I'll enjoy doing the reviews. I think
- 1:56:01Speaker 3: you guys enjoyed me doing the reviews. I get a
- 1:56:04Speaker 3: lot of positive feedback to them. So you know, once
- 1:56:07Speaker 3: the new season drops, I'm sure we'll bring back the reviews.
- 1:56:10Speaker 3: As far as potential topics for a seven season, Hulk Hogan,
- 1:56:16Speaker 3: who just passed away, you could probably get an entire
- 1:56:18Speaker 3: season out of just Hogan alone, his entire life. But
- 1:56:23Speaker 3: I did mention, you know, at the end of last season,
- 1:56:25Speaker 3: I mentioned that there was talk of a Trent Acid episode.
- 1:56:28Speaker 3: Acid was a big independent name who died of a
- 1:56:30Speaker 3: drug overdose about fifteen years ago, so that's one possibility.
- 1:56:35Speaker 3: But I just mocked up a short list here, and
- 1:56:37Speaker 3: these are a lot of names you've heard me mentioned before.
- 1:56:40Speaker 3: I think that you could choose from any of these names.
- 1:56:42Speaker 3: They would be an appropriate subject for an episode. Rick
- 1:56:46Speaker 3: rud and his untimely passing, Perry Saturn, Mike Awesome, and
- 1:56:53Speaker 3: I think there's a reason why the Mike Awesome episode
- 1:56:55Speaker 3: is not going to get done has to do with
- 1:56:56Speaker 3: his ex wife, but he would be a good topic
- 1:57:00Speaker 3: for one of these episodes. Ashley Massorrow is definitely a
- 1:57:04Speaker 3: dark side of the ring story to Keshi Morishima is
- 1:57:07Speaker 3: another one. Crash Holly Right. I think a real name,
- 1:57:11Speaker 3: Mike Lockwood, Rock and Roll, buck Zumov, that piece of shit.
- 1:57:16Speaker 3: He could have his own episode. Sweet and Sour. Larry Sweeney,
- 1:57:21Speaker 3: I'll keep mentioning him. I think he would be an
- 1:57:24Speaker 3: interesting topic as well, and I think there are some
- 1:57:27Speaker 3: good lessons that could be learned from his story as well.
- 1:57:31Speaker 3: And then, of course you could always do one on
- 1:57:32Speaker 3: the speaking out movement from twenty twenty and all the
- 1:57:35Speaker 3: names that it took down again, they may want to
- 1:57:37Speaker 3: put some more distance between that and the time they
- 1:57:39Speaker 3: do that episode, but there were a lot of names,
- 1:57:42Speaker 3: a lot of independent names that were fairly big on
- 1:57:44Speaker 3: the wrestling scene who you don't hear about anymore. So
- 1:57:48Speaker 3: it took down a lot of people. I think that
- 1:57:49Speaker 3: could definitely be an episode they do at some point
- 1:57:51Speaker 3: in the future. I'm going to get back to your
- 1:57:55Speaker 3: mail beg questions next week. I just there's so much
- 1:57:57Speaker 3: going on this week and I just did not have
- 1:57:59Speaker 3: time to just go through everything. We'll get back to
- 1:58:02Speaker 3: that next week. I did want to share an email though,
- 1:58:04Speaker 3: that I got here and some advice from one of
- 1:58:07Speaker 3: our longtime listeners. Shout out to Jacob. This is what
- 1:58:11Speaker 3: he wrote in and just wanted me to share, urging
- 1:58:15Speaker 3: others to seek out therapy or any other source of
- 1:58:19Speaker 3: mental health assistance if they needed. He says, I'm a
- 1:58:22Speaker 3: federal worker who has had the constant fear of losing
- 1:58:25Speaker 3: my dream job held over me this year, and have
- 1:58:28Speaker 3: had other personal issues that trouble me each day. Then
- 1:58:31Speaker 3: I recently lost my grandpa who raised me as his son.
- 1:58:34Speaker 3: All this has weighed on me heavily and brought me
- 1:58:37Speaker 3: to a place where I thought there wasn't any way
- 1:58:39Speaker 3: out except the end. I felt so sick one day
- 1:58:42Speaker 3: that I had to find a therapist before I could
- 1:58:44Speaker 3: do anything that I would regret.
- 1:58:46Speaker 1: It saved me.
- 1:58:47Speaker 3: I'm not back in a good place, but I know
- 1:58:48Speaker 3: I can get better now. I just want to urge
- 1:58:50Speaker 3: others to seek help if they need it, because I
- 1:58:53Speaker 3: know others who write in also struggled with various issues.
- 1:58:56Speaker 3: Thank you, Solo Monster. I'll be here at the House
- 1:58:59Speaker 3: of Glory show in Chicago soon well, Jacob. I hope
- 1:59:03Speaker 3: I get to see you there. And that is great
- 1:59:04Speaker 3: advice for anyone listening. Whatever form of help you may
- 1:59:08Speaker 3: want to seek out, it really doesn't matter. Even just
- 1:59:11Speaker 3: talking to a friend or a family member sometimes can
- 1:59:13Speaker 3: be incredibly helpful. But just know that there is someone
- 1:59:16Speaker 3: out there to speak with who can help talk you
- 1:59:18Speaker 3: down from the proverbial ledge, because that is not a
- 1:59:21Speaker 3: place that you or anyone else should ever feel like
- 1:59:24Speaker 3: you have to be. Thank you, guys for all of
- 1:59:27Speaker 3: the support and all the love this week and every
- 1:59:29Speaker 3: week again.
- 1:59:30Speaker 1: You can subscribe to the.
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- 1:59:40Speaker 3: tonight after TNA Bound for Glory.
- 1:59:43Speaker 1: That is the plan.
- 1:59:43Speaker 3: If I could actually put some artwork together here, which
- 1:59:46Speaker 3: I'm going to have to go right to as soon
- 1:59:48Speaker 3: as I'm done here. That's the next the order of
- 1:59:50Speaker 3: business here, So hopefully I'm able to do that. Tomorrow.
- 1:59:53Speaker 3: Raw is live at eight am. It's another early WWE
- 1:59:57Speaker 3: show because they're still in Australia. I have no idea
- 2:00:00Speaker 3: when I'm going live. I would rather not wait until
- 2:00:03Speaker 3: ten o'clock or eleven o'clock at night. I'm sure I'm
- 2:00:06Speaker 3: not going to wait. It could be eight o'clock, it
- 2:00:08Speaker 3: could be earlier. I don't know what's going on. Just
- 2:00:10Speaker 3: follow me on x I'll keep you guys posted. But
- 2:00:13Speaker 3: I will be live at some point tomorrow for the
- 2:00:16Speaker 3: RAW review. I hope you can join me for that.
- 2:00:18Speaker 3: Of course, we have Tuesday Night Titans on JD's channel.
- 2:00:21Speaker 3: On Tuesday, we're back in our normal time slot. Wednesday
- 2:00:25Speaker 3: is Dynamite three hours apparently Friday, that's the noise I make.
- 2:00:33Speaker 3: I would be saying that, by the way, if it
- 2:00:34Speaker 3: was WWE two, there's just no need to have a
- 2:00:37Speaker 3: three hour fucking show. Friday is SmackDown. I know Wressell
- 2:00:42Speaker 3: Dream is next weekend. I'll keep you posting on that.
- 2:00:45Speaker 3: We may cover that on the SoundOff next Sunday. But
- 2:00:47Speaker 3: next Sunday, I'm back with you. Episode nine thirty four
- 2:00:50Speaker 3: of The Solemn Monster Sounds off, Same Bat time, same
- 2:00:54Speaker 3: Bat channel. Joseph Stewart, I know you're out there. I
- 2:00:58Speaker 3: know you're a big Batman fan, so I know you'll
- 2:01:00Speaker 3: be tuned in. Be well, stay safe. Oh my god,
- 2:01:04Speaker 3: the wind and rain in New York today is out
- 2:01:07Speaker 3: of control. Hopefully I don't get blown away, and if
- 2:01:10Speaker 3: I don't, I will see you back here for more
- 2:01:12Speaker 3: sound Off next weekend.
- 2:01:13Speaker 1: Until then, take care, guys.
- 2:01:16Speaker 2: The Solon Monster sounds off.
- 2:01:18Speaker 3: In the back Becky Lynch approach Maxine Dupre and Akira Tozawa.
- 2:01:22Speaker 3: She mocked Dupree for being a loser. Lynch called herself
- 2:01:25Speaker 3: the greatest of all time and reminded us that everybody
- 2:01:27Speaker 3: was saying it, including Sports Illustrated and the Bleacher Report.
- 2:01:30Speaker 3: You know what I think I'm gonna do? You know,
- 2:01:32Speaker 3: usually I wait until the end of the Year for this,
- 2:01:33Speaker 3: you know, and I announced her Wrestler of the Year
- 2:01:35Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff. I'm gonna make a
- 2:01:37Speaker 3: declaration right now that officially Solo Monster Sounds Off approved.
- 2:01:40Speaker 1: Becky Lynch is the best wrestler in the world.
- 2:01:42Speaker 3: So if we get that out there, she can incorporate
- 2:01:45Speaker 3: that into her promo so she could go, I'm not
- 2:01:46Speaker 3: the only one saying it. ESPN is saying it, the
- 2:01:49Speaker 3: Bleacher Report is saying it, even the Solo Monster is
- 2:01:51Speaker 3: saying it.
- 2:01:51Speaker 1: Right.
- 2:01:52Speaker 3: Well, we'll hear that each week on the show. Let's
- 2:01:54Speaker 3: spread the word. Becky Lynch is the best wrestler in
- 2:01:56Speaker 3: the world. EO Sky number two.
- 2:01:58Speaker 2: Well. Solo Monster Sounds Off since two thousand and seven,
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