Latest / The Jake Wimberly Podcast / Analytics Model Predicts 2024 Records For All 16 SEC Teams
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- 0:08All right, hey, one of our favorites reached out this weekend shared me
- 0:12his latest college football hour glass projections for the SEC. I gotta get him
- 0:18back on the show. Jake Wibberley ESPN Radio out of the state of Mississippi.
- 0:22Jake, how's it going, brother Michael? What's doing? Good?
- 0:26President's Day? So trying to get some work done on a holiday here,
- 0:30man, I appreciate you having me on today. Yeah, Jake, Oh,
- 0:33bad, bad, bad bad. You're gonna get me in trouble already.
- 0:37People think I already hate the Gators because I'm a Tennessee grad. I
- 0:40got nothing against the Gators, even though they beat Tennessee. What is it
- 0:43like sixteen at eighteen? But that's neither here nor there, because according to
- 0:47your model, this is the number one we'll get into all these teams,
- 0:50Jake. But the number one team that stood out. I don't know what
- 0:54Billy Napier did to you, Jake. You got the Gators your bottle,
- 0:57I should say, Florida going two and ten, two and ten, Jake,
- 1:03Well, I mean, if this happens, I mean, I don't
- 1:06know if billion eight per SE's October, he probably doesn't, right, So
- 1:10let me give a little backstory, and like you and I spoke about off
- 1:14the areas, you know, I'll have all this stuff ready to go and
- 1:15where you could read about it, podcast on it here coming up in about
- 1:19a month, you know, right at the end of March, madness.
- 1:22I'm working through all the conferences right now, we start with the Southeastern Conference
- 1:25and then work through you know, all the Power Forward Now conferences and the
- 1:29G five conferences, and then of course I'll have my playoff projections and all
- 1:32that stuff. But I started with the SEC and you know, now that
- 1:34recruiting is over at least this cycle, we will have another transfer portal windows,
- 1:38so there'll be an opportunity for guys to move around a little bit.
- 1:41But I said, hey, I think we've got enough data to really start
- 1:45turning out what men totals will look like working through schedules. So we'll start
- 1:49with Florida and just kind of a revision's history here. The model that I
- 1:53use has several factors in it. One is a talent ratio model that rings
- 1:57the talent of the team. So I, as I told you, I
- 2:00have combed this thing back to about two and a half years of true recruiting
- 2:05numbers, and then you have to go about two years of transfer bortal numbers
- 2:07because no longer can we say, hey, we you know Alabama finished number
- 2:12one of recruiting, or Georgia four straight years have the number one roster talent
- 2:15in the country. Well they may, but do they really. If you
- 2:19want a great example of that, look at how competitive Auburn was with Georgia
- 2:23and Alabama last year and could have won both of those games. And I
- 2:25think a lot of that is because of that Georgia and Alabama do not have
- 2:30any longer. So we use a talent portion of it. Returning quarterback number
- 2:36is part of it. A coaching staff number is part of that. What
- 2:38I call my impact ball catcher metric, which is highlight wide receiver rooms because
- 2:43I think wide receiver rooms are extremely important in college football. And then there's
- 2:46an offensive and defensive efficiency portion of it. So it brings it all together
- 2:50to create a ranker for each team. And then I look at the games,
- 2:53and then you know, what does the schedules look like? You know,
- 2:55for instance, where Florida has by far the hardest schedule in the Southeastern
- 3:00Conference, you know, Auburn kind of gets the pass, ole miss gets
- 3:02kind of a past. Missouri kind of gets the pass this year and they
- 3:06still have pard schedules, but nothing like Florida. So so when you look
- 3:08at Florida, you know this year and you know, you know, coaching
- 3:14wise, Billy Napier has been one of the worst in the Southeastern Conference.
- 3:17Really you can only say, you know, if you go up to Arkansas
- 3:21and Vanderbilt, is there is there work staffs in the in the conference.
- 3:25And then of course you look quarterback play. Pretty nice quarterback play with Graham
- 3:30Mertcy that's kind of middle of the back. You know, receivers wise,
- 3:32what we call impact ballcatcher metrics is that Conna be kind of middle of the
- 3:35back. And then you look at Florida offensive and defensive scoring efficiency off last
- 3:38year and project that forward. They were twenty eighth in the country offensively,
- 3:43eighty six defensively. So when you compound that with a schedule for Florida that
- 3:49starts out with Miami and they're going to be, you know, an underdog
- 3:51and gess the Miami Hurricanes a very good I think Miami Hurricane team that's could
- 3:54be the best Miami Hurricanes team we've seen in probably a decade. It could
- 3:58be they're gonna be an underdog in that game. I think that win that's
- 4:00gonna be big, that's gonna that's gonna catapult them. But without just going
- 4:03through the whole schedule, I've got Florida with one to what I call one
- 4:09possession games, three four about seven one position possession games, meaning that those
- 4:14are games that could go either way. I've gone with a close loss to
- 4:16Texas A and M. Believe it or not, I having a close loss
- 4:19on the road to Mississippi State just because Mississippi State plays Toledo the week before.
- 4:25Florida places to Texas A and M the week a week before as well
- 4:29Central Florida. I have Florida winning a close win. Then you go at
- 4:32Tennessee and Kentucky and then a bye week, Georgia at Texas lsu Ole miss
- 4:36in Florida. I mean, look at Michael that is I don't know the
- 4:39Ohio State and Georgia want that schedule. So they're going to be an underdog
- 4:43in most of those games. And if Billy Napier just consist team and if
- 4:46you believe it, look Megas set their win total at six five and a
- 4:48half to six. There's a reason for that. They set that number so
- 4:53they can get plays on both sides of the line, so to speak.
- 4:55A lot of people will say over six or five and a half just because
- 4:58oh yeah, Florida, for sure, will I tend to go under that.
- 5:00I haven't been two wins. I think it can go equal lot around
- 5:04four wins and maybe five some of these one possession games. It's gonna be
- 5:08a tough year in games. Yeah, But it's just it's kind of pathetic,
- 5:12in't it, Jake, Because as we've grown up, I mean,
- 5:15and a lot of places say this, Jake, but it's true. At
- 5:18Florida, the standard is to compete for championships. You know, obviously you're
- 5:25not gonna win one every year. Hecky, Alabama, Georgia don't win one
- 5:27every year, but they at least compete for it. So it's just whether
- 5:31it's two wins, whether it's five wins. Even if we go over the
- 5:36top and give them a bunch of these one possession games and say they won
- 5:40six or seven, is that good enough? In year three of a coaching
- 5:44tenure at a place like Florida, I would argue it is not. So
- 5:46I don't know. I would. I would bet you, Jake. There's
- 5:49a lot of Florida fans if you gain truth Sirum, they're saying, I
- 5:54hope we go too inten so we get us a new coach at here that
- 5:57knows what the hell he's doing. You do it? Yeah, No,
- 5:59I agree, And you know that's the thing is is Florida should not be
- 6:02in this position. I mean, Florida should be in my estimation where Alabama
- 6:06has been. Not necessarily maybe nobody's gonna make that run for ten years that
- 6:10Saban had, but competing for playoff spots, you know, they need to
- 6:13be competing against Georgia, competing against Texas, competing against the Oklahoma's of the
- 6:17SEC. And for whatever reason, you know, outside of Steve Spurrier and
- 6:23Urban Meyer, you know Dan Mullen with one new year, six day ball,
- 6:26Jim Michael Wayne, I think maybe had a nine win season. It
- 6:29just hasn't happened there for some reason. And I think there has to start
- 6:31against them self evaluational why that is a case at a place like Florida where
- 6:35they should be, They shouldn't be at the top, and they should expect
- 6:38to be there. Now. This was also interesting to me, Jake CFB
- 6:42hour Glass. You've got projected right now only one undefeated team and these are
- 6:47just regular season records that we're throwing out here. This isn't postseason. You
- 6:53only one undefeated SEC team, and it's not the one I think most would
- 6:57assume. It's not Georgia, it is Texas. You've got Texas twelve and
- 7:01oh, Georgia eleven and one, and I'm gonna make an assumption, but
- 7:08you know you let me know, is that because Georgia has to go to
- 7:12Texas to Alabama and two oh miss or the schedule after last season that you
- 7:18know, it was kind of joked all off season, what a pathetic schedule
- 7:21this is? They have done a one eighty on the Bulldogs. They got
- 7:25a very very difficult slate here. It was that kind of the difference of
- 7:29why you why your models got Georgia eleven and one and Texas twelve and zero?
- 7:33Yes, and you know, you look at the just what you just
- 7:36said, you kind of framed it up. I mean you look at Georgia's
- 7:39schedule versus Texas's schedule, and look, schedules are we know this. They
- 7:44matter. I mean, and look at Texas. They open up with Colorado
- 7:46State and we're talking about a team that is one of the top recruiters in
- 7:49the country. And you know when I kind of mulled through this and let
- 7:54me just go over here and tell you this too. This is the way
- 7:56I have it. Not everybody's going to agree. The pop talented teams in
- 7:59the country, I mean are still Alabama and Georgia can grow in Oregon,
- 8:05Texas and even the Miami Hurricanes and Michael there's not a whole lot of difference
- 8:09between those teams as far as talent. When you start, you know,
- 8:11bringing in the transfer portal rankings, you start bringing in everything that's going on
- 8:16with roster, roster turned and attrition. Go back to Texas, one of
- 8:20the best rosters in the country. Steve Sarcasan gets a bumping, you know,
- 8:24bonus today, a new contract that's out there, those details. I'm
- 8:26sure you've sented her out there. One of the quarterbacks in the country.
- 8:30And Queen Years, they have the best wide receiver room where you could argue
- 8:33one of the best in the not just the conference of the country. Schedule,
- 8:35it is very manageable Colorado State. Now they have to go to Michigan.
- 8:39Uh, and we two. If you look at the Texas I mean,
- 8:41this is not your same Michigan team. No Jim Harbaugh, no no
- 8:46quarterback, no running back that you know, no Jj McCarthy, no beliefe
- 8:50for them, a new coaching staff. So I feel comfortable that they will
- 8:52go in there and get that one. And then they go Utsa, Louisiana,
- 8:56Monroe, Mississippi State and a bye week before they get Opahoma on the
- 9:01third weekend or second weekend in October, and they get Georgia at home,
- 9:07Vanderbilt on the road, a bye weekend to finish with Florida, at Arkansas
- 9:11Kentucky, and at Texas, A and M. I do think Georgia probably
- 9:13gets them in the championship game of the Southeastern Conference, which will make that
- 9:18very interesting as far as seating is concerned for the national playoff. But I
- 9:22think Texas and Georgia are the two best teams in the conference, and I
- 9:26give the NOD just because of the schedule, and they play the Dogs in
- 9:28Austin for the Longhorns. Could you see a scenario I'm kind of jumping ahead
- 9:33a little bit here, But again, you said it you would favor Georgia
- 9:39in an SEC championship game if it was Texas and Georgia. Could you see
- 9:43a scenario where these two they're so good next year that they play three times
- 9:48regular season SEC Championship and then the third time would obviously obviously being in a
- 9:54college football playoff scenario. I think it's possible. And that's one of the
- 9:58things I've been talking about on my show is I'll be more intrigued to see
- 10:01than anything is how this new playoff committee ranks and puts teams in a bracket,
- 10:05right, is Texas and Georgia. And if you want to go Alabama
- 10:09or on this only one team can represent the SEC with an automatic bit right
- 10:13in the first round. By what does the committee do with the second team?
- 10:18So let's just buy the scenario. Let's say Georgia wins the SEC,
- 10:22Texas is number two. Are they on the same side of the bracket as
- 10:26Georgia or will they be placed on the other side of the bracket? Is
- 10:30Georgia. A lot of that, of course, is going to be where
- 10:31they are seated in this thing, because I still believe obviously Notre Dame.
- 10:35If they get to ten wins, they're going to get into this tournament.
- 10:37You'll have at least one group of five team in. And I'm not so
- 10:41sure that the committee in year one if we have a two Lane or a
- 10:45Liberty or a Boise State or a Memphis. If you have two of those
- 10:48teams that have one loss or undefeated, let me get two of them.
- 10:50So where will the committee put the other big SEC school will be on the
- 10:56same side of the opposite side. If they break them up, absolutely you
- 11:00can see you know, a championship scenarioports. If you put them on the
- 11:03same side, you may see him as well. It will be fascinating to
- 11:05see how the bracket is set up. Now your model has also got Old
- 11:09Miss at eleven and one. That's pretty fascinating. That's that's what you want
- 11:13to see if you're an Old Miss fan. With all the the ni L,
- 11:16the coaching staff, continuity, the the leaders from last year, a
- 11:20lot of them coming back to Oxford for another season. So uh, safe
- 11:26to us say, assume you got Old Miss as a college football playoff team
- 11:30here at eleven and one. Yeah, I haven't chalked through the whole country.
- 11:33But I would fair sake if they go eleven to one, they're gonna
- 11:35be this playoff. And look again, I always say, don't apologize for
- 11:39your schedule. You're talking about link Kiffin, who you bring it back?
- 11:41The majority of a team that just won eleven ball games this past year.
- 11:45They made en State look look logic and slow in the Peach Bowl. Obviously
- 11:50they'll all fing John Judkins to a hoo State, but I they'll be able
- 11:54to replace that production one way or the other. We know about the transfer
- 11:56Fort Hall. But Michael, they go Furman, Middle Tennessee, at wake
- 12:00Forest, Georgia, Southern Kentucky, and at South Carolina. They should sleep
- 12:05walk through that, I mean, if we're being honest. And then they
- 12:07host LSU at home and they get the Tigers. You know, the Tigers
- 12:11will have a bye week coming into that game. They get them at home
- 12:15before they get a buye. Here's where it gets really, you know,
- 12:18dicey for them. They'll go Oklahoma at home at Arkansas and host Georgia.
- 12:22They need to go two and one in that stretch. I like them with
- 12:24a close win in Oklahoma Oklahoma, a win on the road in Arkansas lost
- 12:28to Georgia and then they finished up with Florida Mississippi State. But you know,
- 12:31here's the thing too, I don't know how many teams can go ten
- 12:35and two, you know, if because we don't have divisions anymore. So
- 12:39you could see a scenario where have a zero lost Texas or Georgia, a
- 12:43one lost Texas or Georgia, a couple of ten and twos and some nine
- 12:46and three's in there, and I just don't know how many we assume the
- 12:50committee is going to give four teams. You know, it's to the playoff,
- 12:54but I think it's razor thin when you start talking ten and two,
- 12:58eleven and one gets you in ten and two. Believe it or not,
- 13:01you may be left out. Well, that naturally goes my next question.
- 13:05We'll go find out how much cousin Shane loves you right here, Jake,
- 13:09because you got Tennessee tended too? Is it tended to? I'm just gonna
- 13:13assume that that's good enough. Now it's not always gonna be the case,
- 13:16but I'm gonna assume, Jake, that a ten win SEC team is gonna
- 13:20make the college football playoffs. So I don't know where would you lean on
- 13:24that if Tennessee goes tended to they play Georgia, they play Bama, they
- 13:30play at Oklahoma, a lot of difficult games for Tennessee. If they're winning
- 13:33ten games, we have to assume Nico's the real deal. One of the
- 13:37best offenses in the country. I would think would win in ten games.
- 13:41Would what attendant to Tennessee. Do you think they would deserve to make the
- 13:45College Football Playoff? Yeah, I think they would deserve to get in.
- 13:50And you know, let's just play this out. If I go to my
- 13:52final, if this works out right, you go, Texas will be number
- 13:54one, Georgia two, OMUSS three, Tennessee four, followed by several nine
- 13:58wins teams and you know, LSU, Oklahoma, Auburn, Texas, A
- 14:01and M. But I think, so, you know, just look at
- 14:05Tennessee real quickly. I have their losses at Oklahoma and then against Georgia.
- 14:09I think I like the matchup with Alabama at home, and then the rest
- 14:13of the schedule. They should be favorites against NC State, UH gains State,
- 14:18Chattanooga, Arkansas, Florida, Kentucky, missip U, TEP, Vanderbilt.
- 14:22So they should be favorites in those games. Again, the problem and
- 14:24I'll know this once we work through this and just just you know, for
- 14:28fun to see what happens is you know, in the a CC, for
- 14:30instance, if you get a one loss Florida State and a one loss Miami
- 14:33and then maybe a one loss Clemson, that creates problems. You know,
- 14:37how many? How many teams will get bids out of the Big twelve?
- 14:41Will it just be the champion or how many I mean or leg you it
- 14:43to another one? Will how many teams out of Big ten? So to
- 14:48answer your question, I think at ten and two, Tennessee would make a
- 14:50strong case, especially when you start talking strength to schedule numbers and having to
- 14:54play Oklahoma, having to play Georgia, having to play Texas or Team Alabama,
- 14:58that they would have a strong resume for it. But again I think
- 15:03you're kind of crossing your fingers at ten and too. But I Likednisley this
- 15:05year a lot. Now you said there we got a couple of teams at
- 15:09nine and three, But I want to ask specifically about one real quick Oklahoma.
- 15:13The Models got the Sooners going nine and three in their debut SEC season,
- 15:20kind of a two Parter here, Jake, how difficult is it to
- 15:24project Texas and Oklahoma given that they're playing in a new conference obviously with a
- 15:31much more difficult slate. And how big of a surprise do you think it
- 15:35would be around the country if Texas comes into this league goes undefeated and Oklahoma
- 15:41comes into this league and wins nine games right off the bat. How surprised
- 15:45do you think that would be the rest of the country that Texas and Oklahoma
- 15:46would be arguably two of the better teams in the entire SEC right off the
- 15:52bat. I think, nashally, that would be a heck of a story.
- 15:54You know, a lot of people and this is just just me still
- 15:58view the SEC now here. There's a couple of things here. One,
- 16:02we know the SEC does have the most talent of the country. If you
- 16:03don't believe it, just watches the NFL Draft coming up here in April and
- 16:07we'll see it. Every year. SEC leads to charge. But the SEC
- 16:11around the country still has a stigma that, hey, this is top to
- 16:14bottom a defensive first league, when in reality, you know, the league
- 16:18has kind of fallen off. I mean, if you look at some of
- 16:19these numbers last year, you know, Vanderbilt one hundred and one in defensive
- 16:23scoring efficiency, Arkansas forty forty one, South Carolina fifty five, Florida eighty
- 16:29six. I mean, you go down the list here, Ole Miss at
- 16:32thirty two. I mean, there's a lot of teams that have fallen off
- 16:34defensively. So when you look at Texas, to me, I don't think
- 16:37Texas would be as big a surprise because they played for the played in College
- 16:41Football Playoff this year. They have the seventeenth best offense and the eighth best
- 16:45defense nationally. Steve Starcasian has really done a great job of this staff Tea
- 16:48and this Texas Longhorn team up, I think to compete week in and week
- 16:52out. Oklahoma, though, you know last year they were ninth in the
- 16:56country and offensive scoring efficiency and eleventh defensive scoring efficiency in the Big Two.
- 17:00Well, but there's a lot that they've had to replace them, had to
- 17:02find a new quarterback Dylan Gabriels off to Oregon. They've lost a lot of
- 17:06offensive offensive linemen that they have recruited well and done a decent job on the
- 17:10transfer portal. And you know, when you look at Oklahoma as far as
- 17:14their schedule is concerned. You know, Temple, Houston and Tulane in the
- 17:17non conference their first SEC game. Obviously Tennessee will will come calling. Then
- 17:22at Auburn, I think that's a game that they can go get. That
- 17:23will probably be a full quarter type ballgame. Texas neutral site game after a
- 17:27bye week South Carolina at Ole Miss another non conference game against Maine. They
- 17:33play Missouri, Alabama and at LSU. So you know, you look at
- 17:37Vegas right now. With Oklahoma, they have their win total at eight.
- 17:41I have them a game over at nine. I wouldn't be surprised if they
- 17:44go eight and four, you know, seven and five. But I have
- 17:47them, you know, win in a couple of one possession games that I
- 17:49think they can get. So, you know, again, I look at
- 17:52these numbers and then I say, what does Vegas say? Vegas has them
- 17:55at eight. I have them at nine. MM. And like I said,
- 17:56so you got a couple your your model's got a couple teams at nine
- 18:00and three LSU, Oklahoma, Auburn and Texas A and M Is that I
- 18:06don't know if there's a way to really ask this, Jake, but is
- 18:08there is there one of these that stand out or not really given that they're
- 18:12all projected to be nine and three. You know, again, some of
- 18:15that schedule, some of that's talent. All that is, is there one
- 18:18of these teams or are they all kind of close so close together? What's
- 18:23your thoughts on maybe one of these that is maybe a hair above the rest
- 18:27LSU, Oklahoma, Auburn and Texas A and M. I think if I
- 18:32had to pick, it would be l s U, you know, because
- 18:33when I look at the overall power ratings in the conference, you know,
- 18:37LSU Jackson is the fifth best power rated team. And I'll send you all
- 18:41this, We'll put this out, you know, power ratings wise overall.
- 18:44Whi's what that means for me is how do they score? How am I
- 18:47scoring these teams? And you know, for instance, for Minchmark, Georgia
- 18:51scored you know, one to fifty two point five to seven back to Son
- 18:53of them at one thirty five pointy five. Now that seems like a big
- 18:56gap, but it's really not the bigger gap, followed by Alabama, Ole
- 19:00Miss and then LSU. If LSU, who had the one hundred and sixth
- 19:04ranked scoring efficiency team last year, defensively, can bet that in half I
- 19:10would I would say LSU, even with a new quarterback, they have an
- 19:14opportunity to be back to playing a quote unquote LSU football, and they look's
- 19:18say, back to playing LSU football. They just had the Heisman Trovy Wuner
- 19:21on their team. So if I had to favor one of the teams,
- 19:23I would probably favor LSU of the nine and grees. Now, this was
- 19:27gonna get a lot of heat, I would imagine, Jake, and I
- 19:30hope you're ready for it. Just buckle up, buddy, because you got
- 19:33Alabama eight and four and I've seeing a lot of this again, this is
- 19:37your model, not not specifically you, but eight and four for the Crimson
- 19:41tide here and man, I like Kayler de Bord. I think that was
- 19:47a solid higher. I don't think he makes year three if he goes eight
- 19:51and four two years in a row. What's your thoughts when you first came
- 19:55out and you saw this Alabama at eight and four, well surprising and almost
- 20:00it makes you want to you know, we never do the budget. Oh
- 20:03no, no, surely that's enough just for nine and three. Let's just
- 20:06pretend and doo that's Alabama, right, But when you look at what's going
- 20:10on. And again, so much attrition in the transfer for over the last
- 20:14two years. I mean this team maybe this past year and I think it
- 20:18was Chris Marler with somebody put this out that if you took all of the
- 20:21guys that left Alabama just this year, it would have been the sixth ranked
- 20:25recruiting class in the entire country. You can't have that kind of attrition and
- 20:30it not affect you, and you do not necessarily affect you. I mean
- 20:33Alabama coming out there first twenty two, you're gonna be going to compete with
- 20:36most anybody just that depth. And you know, obviously change in a coaching
- 20:41staff. What does that look like in Jalen Milroe? What will Kaylen de
- 20:44Boor do with Jalen Milro? You know, he's a fantastic player and he
- 20:48do what Kaylen de Bore wants him to do, or whe they have to
- 20:51kind of you know, pivot and maneuver with that. And you look at
- 20:53Alabama. The reason I have to mate in four they'll get off the cuff
- 20:56and go three and oh, I think they win at Wisconsin after the BI
- 21:00week. I just Georgia Kirby Smart. This feels like one of those games
- 21:03where he says, hey, you know, Kirby takes it personal and says,
- 21:07look, we got this new coach at Alabama and we're fixing a welcome
- 21:10to the SEC in a Georgia kind of way. And I feel like they'll
- 21:12probably do that at Vanderbilt South Carolina. But at Tennessee. I like Tennessee
- 21:18much better in this situation. Playing at home. We know that the volunteers
- 21:22are not scared of the time they meet them two years ago. You know,
- 21:26they they had their moments last year. I like Tennessee and a close
- 21:29win Missouri, they should get that win again. How good is Missouri going
- 21:33to be? I mean, I think they're obviously going to be one of
- 21:34the better teams in the league. At LSU again I favor the Tigers just
- 21:38because of the coaching staff and where that game is played Mercer. But then
- 21:41at Oklahoma a loss as well, so you know, I think Oklahoma's going
- 21:47to be somewhat of a bus on. Then a close win against Auburn tie
- 21:49for me eight and four. Nine and three is kind of where Alabama's going
- 21:52to be. Now Vegas has Alabama's win total at nine. I go again
- 21:56one on one win under that at eight and I just think Alabama, I
- 22:00mean, they're not going to be terrible, but I think they kind of
- 22:03settled back in the back in year one of a new regime. Now another
- 22:07team at eight and four, Jake, This this kind of caught me off
- 22:10guard as well, Missouri given their schedule, because the way I look at
- 22:14it, maybe your model is a little bit different, Jake, but I
- 22:15mean I'm looking at it. They may be favored in ten games, maybe
- 22:22nine. The only ones I see them potentially not being favored at A and
- 22:26M at Alabama and possibly Oklahoma at home. I think Missouri is going to
- 22:32be favored in every single other game. So what's your thoughts on Missouri coming
- 22:37out at eight and four according to your model, Yeah, Vegas has their
- 22:41win total at nine and a half. Again, I'm a game and a
- 22:42half under that. I think they'll they'll start out four to zero against Murray
- 22:47State in Buffalo, Boston College, and Vanderbilt. After the bye week,
- 22:49I do think they'll be in a normal Texas A and M does and you
- 22:53know, the Aggie's right now, and obviously they'll play notre name right up
- 22:56the gating A fantastic opening weekend ballgame. Then they take on McNeice at Florida
- 23:02Bawling Green in Arkansas, so they should have their Sea leg shall I would
- 23:04say the Aggies would be so I like Texas A and m at home by
- 23:07just a little bit. Missouri will beat you mass we know that. Then
- 23:11Auburn and then Bama on the road. I just I feel like one,
- 23:15if not both of these games are up for grabs. Now. Missouri could
- 23:19definitely beat Auburn, and I don't you know, maybe at Alabama. Well,
- 23:22we'll have to see. But I have them losing two very close ballgames
- 23:26against both of those teams. After a bye week hosting Oklahoma, I like
- 23:30Oklahoma will come in and beat them. So I mean, I've got three
- 23:33games where I call it a close loss, one possession ballgame, and then
- 23:36they went out at the end at South Carolina Missippi State in Arkansas. So
- 23:40at one, two, three, four ball games, I think that will
- 23:42determine their season if they can stay healthy. And it's kind of in the
- 23:45middle of that schedule, all one possession of ball games. It looks like
- 23:48for me on which you know, again, I've got them, I've got
- 23:52them, right, there at eight and four. I could see them at
- 23:55nine and three, and who knows, if the ball mounts is the right
- 23:56way, they can go ten in two. Now your model's got two teams
- 24:00at six and six, Jacob, and I think there would be two wildly
- 24:04different reactions because you got Kentucky six and six. I think their fans would
- 24:08be just over it. Ready for basketball, we all know the jokes there.
- 24:14While Mississippi State again I realized the standard is not six and six.
- 24:18It's stortful. But I think year one, Jeff Levy all the uncertainty if
- 24:22they went six and six, I think State fans will be pretty fired up
- 24:26heading into twenty twenty five. What's your thoughts on these two teams that your
- 24:30models got predicted to go five hundred. Yeah, Kentucky, I mean we
- 24:33know, look, Mark Toops has gotten more with less with Kentucky and they've
- 24:37done a great job recruiting. We'll see what you know Brock Vandergrift does for
- 24:41them at quarterback. If you look at Kentucky even last year, you look
- 24:45at the Kentucky Walkers, I'm trying to find over here. You know,
- 24:48thirty third and total offense and forty second in defense. You know, it's
- 24:52kind of middle of the pack, which is what we kind of expect for
- 24:53Kentucky. Their schedule sets up where you know, they play Southern mists in
- 24:57South Carolina. Should be two wins for them. We'll see what happens with
- 25:02South Carolina and how good they're really going to be. I've got them at
- 25:04four and eighth this year, but they could populate out of five and seven
- 25:07or six and six Georgia. Kentucky has just shown they just they're not likely.
- 25:12There's not going to beat Georgia Ohio. So they should be at three
- 25:15and one before they take on Ole Miss on the road. That's going to
- 25:18be a tough place to go play. I have them with a close loss
- 25:21Vanderbilt win after the buye at Florida. You know Mark Stoops knows how to
- 25:25beat Florida. This goes back into that Florida conversation. This is one of
- 25:27those games where Florida could grab another win or maybe this sins Kentucky. You
- 25:32know, backwards with a loss Auburn at home and of course at Tennessee,
- 25:37Murray State at Texas and Louisville. So I just think that back half for
- 25:41Kentucky is just too much to ask for when you do about Florida, Auburn,
- 25:45Tennessee, Sandwich, Maine in there, Texas and Louisville. For Misissippi
- 25:48State and Jeff Levy, it's gonna be one of the younger teams in the
- 25:52conference. Not totally at the back end, but a lot of youth is
- 25:53going to be expected to step up. They're gonna play a different brand of
- 25:56football. They're gonna go wide open, going to try to be plant exciting
- 26:02brand. You know. We'll see what happens with Misisispi State the way they
- 26:04play, but Eastern Kentucky should be a gift on Game one at Arizona State
- 26:08is a game that I call a close win Bulldogs, regardless of what has
- 26:12happened to our more talented team. Arizona State on the road should be a
- 26:17fourth quarterball game. If Misssispi State can get that, they should beat Toledo
- 26:21and be three and o with Florida coming in. I have a close win
- 26:23against Florida, lost to Texas at Georgia, Texas A and M, and
- 26:27then a close win against Arkansas in the middle of the season, just because
- 26:30I think Arkansas is another team that's kind of dead men walking this year.
- 26:33UMass a win and then lost to Tennessee, Missouri and Ole miss to finish
- 26:37the season. So you know, for Mississippi State, if you look at
- 26:41Kentucky, go back to them. Everyone total in Vegas is seven. I
- 26:45have them right under six. For Missippi State, you know, theirs is
- 26:48at five and I have them one over at six. But there is no
- 26:51room for ara for Missippi State to get the six. And for Kentucky,
- 26:55I mean, you know, look, they can get to seven, they
- 26:56can get to eight, but they've got to do the right things. Now,
- 27:00I'm a big fan of Shane Beemer, but man, your model four
- 27:03and eight, and I think that may be fair given the fact that Spencer
- 27:07Ratlers off to the NFL, Xavier Legett one of the breakout stars in the
- 27:11entire SEC. Both those guys off the roster, so they need a lot
- 27:17of help. And when they had those guys, they still couldn't make a
- 27:18bowl game. So how surprised were you that the model past South Carolina progressing
- 27:25yet again four and eight And as popular as Shane Beamer is, I mean,
- 27:29I don't know how many four and eight's he's going to survive in Columbia.
- 27:32Yeah, I mean the question is who plays who plays quarterback? You
- 27:36know when you talk about a couple of journey in there on that roster and
- 27:40a schedule that does not lend itself to a lot of success. I mean
- 27:44obviously old Minion and at Florida. You know, if they can see me
- 27:47at Kentucky, if they can go to Kentucky and get the win and get
- 27:49to two and oh, that would help them mightily. But I think that
- 27:52they lose that ballgame LSU at Home Ackroam before my week. I have them
- 27:57two and two going into the first buy. And it's similar to Florida,
- 28:00Ole Mess at Alabama, at Oklahoma they can break Texas A and M Vanderbilt
- 28:07and the Missouri Wawford and Clemson, so you know they're going to be underdogs
- 28:11and several of these games at Clemson they'll be an underdog. Be an underdog
- 28:15probably against Missouri, Texas A and M Oklahoma, Alabama, Ole miss and
- 28:19Docky and LSU. So it just scheduled does not lend itself for a lot
- 28:23of success in my opinion for South Carolina this year. Yeah, and then
- 28:27kind of a similar deal man, Sam Pivan, one of the most beloved
- 28:32figures in the SEC. Going to your models got them at three and nine,
- 28:34same as Vanderbilt. But three and nine, those fans deserve a hell
- 28:40of a lot better than that. And I mean, we won nine games
- 28:44a couple of years ago in Fayeteville and things have clearly just kind of gone
- 28:48backwards on us here. So how many let's try to give some fans of
- 28:52hope here. How many of these are one possession games that Arkansas maybe could
- 28:56flip to do to have a much better record than three and nine as you
- 29:00model currently projects. I think there's three out there or four. Look that
- 29:03Oklahoma State game on the Week two. A lots expect that. I don't
- 29:07make Gondy's team this year in the Big twelve. If they can go in
- 29:10and grab game right there and in week two they'll beat you app and UAP
- 29:15on each side of that, that would get them to three and oh you
- 29:18know at Auburn. If they're three and o going to Auburn, there'll be
- 29:21some hope there. But I think that's the one possession game to look at
- 29:22Missippi State on the roads in one possession game typically Ole Miss and MISSISPPI State
- 29:27going to Arkansas is very tough for those two teams. I would like to
- 29:30think that that Ole Miss Arkansas game is going to be closed. There's another
- 29:34one possession game out there as well, So you know, just say three
- 29:37or four. I mean, you could see an instance where they win their
- 29:40non conference if they can beat Oklahoma State, they win their non conference out
- 29:42and then grab a couple of games and get the six to six and I
- 29:45think that would go win for Sam Pittman. That's something you know, we'll
- 29:48see if Bobby Petrino can can help this former team get to Bowl eligibility,
- 29:52and if they can, that would help in the recruiting, and then that
- 29:56would you know, want we don't put a ton of stock in the lower
- 29:57tier bowls anymore for coaches and telling point to administration and the recruiting and say
- 30:02hey, look we got this thing going in the right direction. Come help
- 30:04withs win at Arkansas. And I think that's what they're gonna have to do
- 30:07at Oklahoma State and have a couple of games they shouldn't. Yeah, then
- 30:11so Vanderbilt, you also three and nine, at least clerkly would be able
- 30:15to sell. Maybe we're better in Florida, which probably gonna lose to Florida
- 30:18anyway, but that that is something. But man, if if Vanderbilt clerkly,
- 30:25if he's there for four years and three of them are winless in the
- 30:27conference, I mean, it's just I don't. I don't really have anything
- 30:32night. Can you say one nice thing about Vanderbilt for me? J because
- 30:34I can't. I can't think of anything. Great engineering school. I know
- 30:37that is a great engineering a great nic But which which league game is the
- 30:48most winnable for the Commodores? Is it that late in the season South Carolina?
- 30:52That's when a lot of people have circled by heck, I think South
- 30:55Carolina's beating them like sixteen years in a row. So don't I don't know
- 30:56why we all assume South Carolina is the one? But is that the win
- 31:00for your model? I think South Carolina, And then I think if you
- 31:03wanted to grab another one, I think oddly you would have to go to
- 31:08hear me out here Missouri or Kentucky on the road, just because you know,
- 31:12if they can catch one of those teams kind of sleepwalking, then they
- 31:15may have a shot, you know, Jackie Cheryl used to say this when
- 31:18he was in Mississippi State, and you I think he can die by this
- 31:21and live by this. And I agree with him. Is take any team
- 31:22in the country. You can only get him up for about three games in
- 31:25the year, right, you can really do the raw Ross speech, and
- 31:29mostly you know, first game of the season, a big ball game in
- 31:32the middle, and then a bivalry game at the end of the year.
- 31:33The rest of that time, it's up to these teams to kind of you
- 31:37know, self cultivate and self motivated internally. So you know, if that's
- 31:41when we typically will see one of these upsets, you know, or two
- 31:45or three is in the middle of the year where a team kind of gets
- 31:48sleepwalking a little bit, so it could happen, uh, you know in
- 31:51say at Kentucky or Missouri or Missouri for Vanderbilt and just you know, you
- 31:55hate it for Vanderbilt. You wish they were a little more competitive and had
- 31:57a competitive advantage they could play on. Involvement just hasn't shown itself. Yeah,
- 32:02well, Jake, I can't thank you enough. Hosts of the Afternoon
- 32:05Drive ESPN Radio out of Mississippi, and of course all these projections were from
- 32:09your Cfbourglass dot com. Go check it out, Jake. Before you go,
- 32:15can you tell the audience how can they find you? How can they
- 32:17give you a follow and check out all your outstanding work? Yeah, just
- 32:22follow me on x at Jake whim Nothing on the website as far as current
- 32:24right now, that's coming. I got a lot of people helping this year,
- 32:28like I told Michael, So we'll have articles to start to come out
- 32:30here in the next three weeks or so. We're gonna start with team specific
- 32:32articles and then I'll throw into your national championship type stuff, conference primers.
- 32:37We'll have some podcasts and stuff so and you can always find a Podcasts are
- 32:40available on Apple, iTunes, all the YouTube, Spotify, and all the
- 32:45platforms out there as well. So we'll be cranking this stuff out. It's
- 32:49it's number season, and it's a lot of math, Michael, and it's
- 32:51fun to kind of see because you look at this and sometimes you shake your
- 32:53head at your own look on numbers ago that can't be right. Sometimes they're
- 32:58right, sometimes they're not. Team Well, that's why I like having you
- 33:01on, Jake, because I could barely count, So I'll let you do
- 33:04the math, and you explain it to the rest of us. All right,
- 33:07very good, very good, Michael. I appreciate you as always