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Fan Grab Bag Vol. 2 · NFL explained.

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  Speaker 1: Questions and answers. Yes, it is one of my favorite
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  Speaker 1: episodes to do. Welcome to the NFL Explained Podcast. Mike
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  Speaker 1: Yam joined as always by Addi kinkab Wla. How are
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  Speaker 1: you great? I forgot to put in my regular high
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  Speaker 1: because I was sort of wrapped up in this idea
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  Speaker 1: that this is your favorite thing to do. Well, but no,
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  Speaker 1: it is when we do our mail bag episodes and
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  Speaker 1: people are engaged in our episodes, and some of our
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  Speaker 1: previous shows have sparked questions and then they fire them
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  Speaker 1: off to us on social media. At my underscore m
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  Speaker 1: at a kinka wallah, Yeah, I get fired up. It's
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's it's like the connection that we have
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  Speaker 1: with the audience. So it is one of my favorite things.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I have to give a little shout out
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  Speaker 1: since we talk about having conversations. I spoke to a
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  Speaker 1: young woman named Gabby just yesterday who grew up in Baltimore,
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  Speaker 1: is a big Ravens fan, is studying abroad in Venice
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  Speaker 1: right now, and she told me that she loves our
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  Speaker 1: podcast and that she keeps going back to that field
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  Speaker 1: whole episode with Justin Tucker, a game that she was
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  Speaker 1: at the justin Tucker Game that prompted the changing of
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  Speaker 1: the height of the uprights, and she said she keeps
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  Speaker 1: mentioning it to be talking about things that she learned
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  Speaker 1: in that episode, which really just made me feel so
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  Speaker 1: warm and fuzzy. Yeah, it's amazing. And she's probably listening
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  Speaker 1: with gelato in one hand or phone and and the
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  Speaker 1: wireless headphones and the other. So Gabby's love and life.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, you got the end of explained podcast studying
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  Speaker 1: abroad in Venice. What could be better than that? Well,
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  Speaker 1: what could be better than that is giving our listeners
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  Speaker 1: another grab bag episode. So let's just jump right into it.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Fines, What can players get fine for? Where does
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  Speaker 1: that money go? What exactly happens during halftime? What doesn't happen?
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  Speaker 1: By the way, I did my best to get on
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  Speaker 1: the halftime field this past Super Bowl. That wasn't so successful,
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  Speaker 1: but I did get very very close to Snoop Dogg.
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  Speaker 1: I will say that, and to Dr Dre I'll send
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  Speaker 1: you pictures later away. So the importance of turnovers, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to get into all of that. The franchise tag,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get into that too all of it in this episode,
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  Speaker 1: all right, So there's a lot to unpack here. So
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  Speaker 1: let's sort of get into a couple of other things
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  Speaker 1: that we can make reference to. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: you just dropped the halftime hanging with Snoop Andre. You
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  Speaker 1: didn't say hanging with I didn't say better sell, So
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  Speaker 1: let's just go with that. But because we do have
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  Speaker 1: a recently new crown champion in the RAMS, would love
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  Speaker 1: to start with the question of where did the idea
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  Speaker 1: of Super Bowl rings actually come from? Well, here's the answer.
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  Speaker 1: The first ever championship ring in pro sports and this
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  Speaker 1: is not super surprising, and it comes in baseball, uh,
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  Speaker 1: the New York Baseball Giants in ninety two after beating
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  Speaker 1: the Yankees in the World Series. The first Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: ring was given to the Packers after defeating the Chiefs
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  Speaker 1: in Super Bowl One. It actually featured just one single
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  Speaker 1: carrot diamond, which you know, I mean, now I get
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  Speaker 1: like the blame and it's like kind of crazy in
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  Speaker 1: the whole I know, you got some bling on your hand,
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  Speaker 1: what you're you're flashing right now? So well, what's really
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  Speaker 1: interesting about this is our colleague Mike Robinson. I met
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  Speaker 1: him at a rookie symposium years ago, and he had
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  Speaker 1: his super Bowl ring, and this was prior to my
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  Speaker 1: husband actually proposing to me. And I took a picture
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  Speaker 1: of that big fat super Bowl ring and I sent
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  Speaker 1: it to my husband and said inspiration. And while I
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  Speaker 1: do have a very nice engagement ring, it is nowhere
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  Speaker 1: near what super Bowl rings are today. No, I mean
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  Speaker 1: they are no joke, but at least the one from
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  Speaker 1: super Bowl number one. Uh look one carrot diamond, but
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  Speaker 1: the ring itself usually there there rose or yellow gold.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you the difference between either one of those.
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  Speaker 1: They can include diamonds, although to be fair, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if I've ever seen a championship ring at a
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  Speaker 1: pro level that hasn't included diamonds, um emeralds, ruby, sapphires.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my, that's a pretty significant list. It'll include of
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  Speaker 1: course the team, the name, the number, and of course
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  Speaker 1: world champions on it. The Collective Bargaining Agreement actually outlines
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  Speaker 1: that are practice squad slash inactive player for super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: winning team is entitled to a ring, and most teams
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  Speaker 1: actually give rings to coaches, administration, surrounding organizational staff as
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  Speaker 1: sort of like honorary rings. And I got a really
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  Speaker 1: good example for you. Add So, one of my best
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  Speaker 1: friends is the play by playvoice for the Rams in JB. Long,
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  Speaker 1: and I had asked him before the Super Bowl. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, Yo, man, are you gonna get a Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl ring if they win? He said, I think so.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just another cool example of really what it
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  Speaker 1: could be. And you know what, Mike, some of those
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  Speaker 1: stories are my favorite stories go back to two thousand seventeen,
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  Speaker 1: when the Eagles won the Super Bowl. Owner Jeffrey Lurie
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  Speaker 1: actually gave John dorm Boss, who had been there long
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  Speaker 1: snapper for eleven years, had been one of the most
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  Speaker 1: popular guys in that locker room, but had been traded
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  Speaker 1: just before the season. He gave him a ring. He
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  Speaker 1: also gave a ring to a secretary that had been
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  Speaker 1: with the team from nineteen until two thousand fourteen, when
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  Speaker 1: then head coach Chip Kelly had fired her. Colts owner
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  Speaker 1: Jim Ersey. He gave Edgar and James a ring after
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  Speaker 1: winning the Super Bowl in two thousand six, and that
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  Speaker 1: was right after Edgar and James had left in free agency.
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  Speaker 1: And then you talk about giving extra rings or honorary rings,
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  Speaker 1: or pendants after winning Super Bowl fifty four? Quiz time,
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  Speaker 1: how many rings do you think the Chiefs gave out players, coaches, staff, ambassadors, cheerleaders.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I feel like just knowing
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  Speaker 1: in this administration, players practice, squad players, you're probably hovering
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  Speaker 1: around to Andrea just in general, maybe try seven hundred
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  Speaker 1: seven hundred. You're ordering those like right after the game,
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  Speaker 1: the eu fouria is still there as opposed to you know,
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  Speaker 1: weeks after where maybe that dies down just a bit
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  Speaker 1: and you start thinking about what that's going to go
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  Speaker 1: and cost you. Right, maybe you shouldn't be making that
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  Speaker 1: decision right then. Okay, but so we do know who
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  Speaker 1: has the most rings in history? Correct? Yeah, it's the goat.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, Tom Brady. We've all seen that picture, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe he retired with three fingers left. You know.
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  Speaker 1: And it's interesting because actually about a year and a
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  Speaker 1: half ago, actually hosted a seminar with Charles Haley and
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  Speaker 1: Ronnie Lott about mental health awareness. And I didn't realize
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  Speaker 1: that Charles Haley, like, you know, I sort of he
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  Speaker 1: was getting bios and whatnot. He's actually the second most
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  Speaker 1: amount of rings that he has one hand five, which
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  Speaker 1: is kind of cool when you think about the success
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  Speaker 1: he had with the Niners and the Cowboys. By the way.
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  Speaker 1: The other thing to kind of throw out there on
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  Speaker 1: the expense of some of those rings, and you mentioned
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  Speaker 1: the Chiefs dropping seven hundred of them. Now not all
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  Speaker 1: of them are, you know, fully outfitted with like a
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  Speaker 1: crazy amount of diamonds. But the last ring that Brady
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  Speaker 1: got with the Bucks fifteen carrots of diamonds a total
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  Speaker 1: of three hundred and nineteen to signify the thirty one
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  Speaker 1: to final score. The value around six d k. It's
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  Speaker 1: the most expensive ring in league history by a very
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  Speaker 1: wide margin. The NFL, by the way, does contribute around
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  Speaker 1: five to seven thousand dollars on each ring. That softened
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  Speaker 1: that blow a little bit of d I can tell
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  Speaker 1: you this. My engagement ring was not sixty dollars. But Mike,
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  Speaker 1: if you're going to be dropping that one day, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, lucky lady me and you were gonna be
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  Speaker 1: doing a whole lot of podcasts for me to be
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  Speaker 1: able to afward six k on an engagement ring. All right, Well,
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  Speaker 1: let's keep talking about money, and let's talk about contributions,
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  Speaker 1: and hey, we had another great question from one of
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  Speaker 1: our listeners at iron Will on Twitter and to Will
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  Speaker 1: asks us, where does all the money that is collected
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  Speaker 1: from the various fines that the NFL hands out go? Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's a great question. The first place we should start
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  Speaker 1: is how players actually get fined. Now, there are indeed
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  Speaker 1: maximum allowable fines that are laid out in the c
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  Speaker 1: b A. For instance, if you don't promptly report an injury,
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  Speaker 1: the most you can be fined is two thousand, eight
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  Speaker 1: hundred and twenty seven dollars. If you throw a football
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  Speaker 1: into the stands, the most you can be fined is
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  Speaker 1: two thousand, eight hundred and twenty seven dollars. Do you
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  Speaker 1: know if you are overweight? Mike, and thank goodness, I
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  Speaker 1: am not fine for this, But if you are overweight,
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  Speaker 1: how much can you be fined per pound per day?
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  Speaker 1: Seven hundred and fifty two dollars. How could it be
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  Speaker 1: that much? Well, that's what it is, seven hundred and
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  Speaker 1: fifty two dollars for a pound per day TB twelve.
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  Speaker 1: Here we go. I mean I'd bay go ahead and
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  Speaker 1: multiply five times seven hundred and fifty two, like I'd
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  Speaker 1: be out my whole salary right now, or maybe it
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  Speaker 1: would prompt me to get back into shape. Anyway, failure
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  Speaker 1: to report to a mandatory offseason minicamp the first day
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  Speaker 1: you're out nearly sixteen thousand dollars, the second day you're
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  Speaker 1: out thirty one thousand, nine hundred and sixty one dollars,
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  Speaker 1: and the third day you can be fined forty seven
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  Speaker 1: thousand in nine hundred and thirty six dollars. Now, if
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  Speaker 1: you have an unexcused miss on a team transportation fifteen
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  Speaker 1: thousand and ninety dollars, which I have a story about that.
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  Speaker 1: Once the Steelers were flying to Oakland and uh, I
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  Speaker 1: think the Raiders were in Oakland at the time. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers were flying and Antonio Brown was late and
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  Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin held the plane until Antonio Brown showed up,
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  Speaker 1: Which means that maybe Antonio Brown, ohs Mike Tomlin part
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  Speaker 1: of that fifteen thousand, ninety dollars that he would have
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  Speaker 1: been fined potentially for missing the flight plus the cost
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  Speaker 1: of airfare to get across the country. Here's what's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: If you lose personal playbook, if you lose part of
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  Speaker 1: a playbook or a scouting report, it's the same fifteen thousand,
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  Speaker 1: ninety dollars. I would think that that would be a
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  Speaker 1: much bigger fine, don't you think? Agreed? But I'm having
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  Speaker 1: flashbacks to elementary school, like you lose your homework one
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  Speaker 1: of those moments and then just fast forward just a significance,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, the teacher now has a talking point
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  Speaker 1: some of their students. You know, in the NFL, you
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  Speaker 1: lose your playbook or your scant report cost k don't
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  Speaker 1: lose your homework. Well, it could also cost your team
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  Speaker 1: the game, though, depending on whose hands that playbook falls into.
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  Speaker 1: All right, what about fighting? First offense for fighting thirty
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  Speaker 1: five thousand and ninety six dollars, a second offense seventy thousand,
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  Speaker 1: hundred and ninety four dollars. If you have a foreign
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  Speaker 1: substance on your body, like it's cold and you put
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  Speaker 1: too much vaseline on your arms to keep them warm,
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  Speaker 1: and it bleeds onto your uniform and it makes you slippery, well,
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  Speaker 1: that could be five thousand dollars for a first offense.
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  Speaker 1: You know, penalties are also subject to find Mike, a
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  Speaker 1: fifteen yard fould like a face mask, a blind side block,
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  Speaker 1: a roughing the past or a horse collar, all of
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  Speaker 1: those can get you a find somewhere in between ten
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  Speaker 1: and twenty thousand dollars. And then, of course, you know
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  Speaker 1: there are uniform inspectors, So on game day there's as
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  Speaker 1: many a sixty four uniform inspectors who make sure that
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  Speaker 1: everybody's looking clean. You know, the socks must be the
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  Speaker 1: right color, and they have to be pulled up to
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  Speaker 1: the right spot, and gosh, all of that. You have
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  Speaker 1: to be proper in what you're doing. Some of the
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  Speaker 1: players really are not huge fans of that, and some
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  Speaker 1: that I know that we're just willing to just kind
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  Speaker 1: of pay the fine and just say screw it, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna do what I want anyway. Um, it does total
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  Speaker 1: a whole lot of cash. Though. It's actually really good
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  Speaker 1: question indeed that iron Will had sent our way, because
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, like, those are large numbers and penalties.
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  Speaker 1: Where does the money go. Well, Mike, let's look at one.
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  Speaker 1: Players were find a total of one hundred and sixty
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  Speaker 1: three times for seven million dollars according to spot track.
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  Speaker 1: And so, to go back to iron Will's original question,
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  Speaker 1: all of that money goes to the NFL Foundation, and
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  Speaker 1: it's used to assist former players and various programs that
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  Speaker 1: help former players. These are programs that are agreed upon
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  Speaker 1: by both the NFL and the nfl p A union,
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  Speaker 1: And obviously last year was a big year for fines,
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  Speaker 1: but in general, the league has been able to give
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  Speaker 1: about four million dollars a year to these programs. So
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  Speaker 1: while that fine for an untucked jersey could be really annoying,
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  Speaker 1: at least you know that your money is going to
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  Speaker 1: a very good cause. Yeah no, I mean it's definitely
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  Speaker 1: it's a really worthy cause in a big way. Alright.
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  Speaker 1: A couple more questions to get to here. One regarding turnovers.
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  Speaker 1: You know there's that theme. My god, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: it's literally every time I watch a game, and it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't even have to be an NFL game, every single
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  Speaker 1: sport where turnoversus an issue. You got to win the
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  Speaker 1: turnover battle keys to the game. How true is that
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  Speaker 1: is the question. Well, it turns out it's actually really true.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a reason why everyone seems to say it.
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  Speaker 1: Since two thousand teams with a positive turnover margin win
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  Speaker 1: games at a rate of seventy nine percent over that
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  Speaker 1: same span, Since two thousand teams that have a turnover
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  Speaker 1: margin of plus one percent winning percentage a plus two,
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  Speaker 1: it knocks up to eight three a plus three turnover margin.
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  Speaker 1: And if you are plus four or better, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: it's like guaranteed victory. Ninety six point six percent is
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  Speaker 1: that win percentage. So when you consider that teams have
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  Speaker 1: about ten possessions are so a game it makes a
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  Speaker 1: whole lot of sense. Every single play matters in such
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  Speaker 1: a big way and indiity as far as success for
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  Speaker 1: teams during the season and reaching that Super Bowl, only
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  Speaker 1: four Super Bowl winners have ever had a negative turnover
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  Speaker 1: margin in the regular season the Oh seven Giants negative nine, three,
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  Speaker 1: Raiders negative four, Broncos negative for the Raiders at negative two.
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  Speaker 1: And how about this the Rams in one coming off
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  Speaker 1: that Super Bowl against the Bengals. A little doughnut there,
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  Speaker 1: the Rams somehow wanted all this past season with a
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  Speaker 1: differential of zero. So once again, um, you know, on
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  Speaker 1: the flip side, if you're thinking, like, what about teams
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  Speaker 1: with the highest turnover margin? The Ravens plus twenty three
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  Speaker 1: arguably the best defense of all time. But be I
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  Speaker 1: know you've got an up closer personal seat for that
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  Speaker 1: squad and the Legion of Boom the Seahawks a plus
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  Speaker 1: twenty differential for them. What are you talking about in
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  Speaker 1: two thousand, I was just a kid. I wasn't covering
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. End. I'm with you, Mike, that was a
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  Speaker 1: little rid moving right along. If your team is struggling,
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  Speaker 1: like Mike, yeah, I'm uppears to be struggling right now,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's turnovers or you know, schematically, it's important to
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  Speaker 1: get into the locker room at halftime, right. So a
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  Speaker 1: question that we've had a few times from a few
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  Speaker 1: different people is what exactly happens at halftime? Alright, So
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  Speaker 1: in a regular game, NFL halftime is only thirteen minutes
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  Speaker 1: for the players, and that's shorter than all other levels
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  Speaker 1: of football. It's time by the back jugged, and teams
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  Speaker 1: are not required to go back to the locker room.
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  Speaker 1: But it certainly makes sense, and especially considering that poor
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  Speaker 1: Evan mc fierce and the Rickey Kier for the Bengals
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  Speaker 1: who decided to hang out with long snapper and Clark
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  Speaker 1: Harrison watched the Jerry Snoop halftime show this year at
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  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Um, we get that it's probably safer
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  Speaker 1: to just get out of sight. Although I should mention
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  Speaker 1: that the Super Bowl halftime is indeed longer than a
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  Speaker 1: regular season game halftime. In any case, what happens at
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  Speaker 1: halftime varies based on the team. So now you've certainly
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  Speaker 1: had coaches who say that, you know, there's just not
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  Speaker 1: enough time to get into any sort of really detailed
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  Speaker 1: chalk talk. Sean Payton once talked about this, that halftime
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  Speaker 1: is really only about seven and a half minutes. By
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  Speaker 1: the time you all run off the field, get in
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  Speaker 1: the locker room, get a drink, eat a peanut butter
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  Speaker 1: and jelly sandwich. Which remember when we did our episode
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  Speaker 1: on eating, if you eat a peanut butter and jelly
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  Speaker 1: sandwich at halftime, you should eat it on white bread,
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  Speaker 1: not we bread, because you don't want too much fiber.
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  Speaker 1: As you go out in the second half, go back
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  Speaker 1: and check out that. So lots of interesting nuggets un eating.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, by the time you get something to drink,
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  Speaker 1: by the time you eat something, you go to the bathroom.
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  Speaker 1: The coaches talks amongst themselves there's really just not that
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  Speaker 1: much time to get into any sort of deep dive
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  Speaker 1: on anything. And so Sean Payton, going back the former
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  Speaker 1: Saints coach, said maybe you can talk about a couple
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  Speaker 1: of important things, but really probably not. And Matt Burke,
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  Speaker 1: who was a center for a long time with the
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Vikings and also played with the Ravens too, right, and
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  Speaker 1: you play with the Ravens too, Yes, okay, well he
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  Speaker 1: was a Viking center for a very long time. Harvard Man.
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  Speaker 1: He said the same exact thing that, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the coaches have a meeting, they come out and they
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  Speaker 1: very quickly say to players, Okay, guys, here's what we like.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like it's super specific that these are the
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  Speaker 1: three plays that are going to win the game, and
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: you're gone, there you go. And another thing, they'll insist
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  Speaker 1: that like that whole glorified in the movies and TV,
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  Speaker 1: that impassion a halftime speech that changes everything, that that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't really happen. And another one of our former colleagues,
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  Speaker 1: Brian Billick, who of course won that two thousand Raven
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl when I was, you know, just a small
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  Speaker 1: child in elementary school. Brian Billick said, in all my
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  Speaker 1: years in the NFL, I can't think of a single
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: let's go win one for the Gipper halftime speech. Kind
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  Speaker 1: of disappointing. But now I will say this in my
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  Speaker 1: experience this past season, as you know, Mike, I spent
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  Speaker 1: so much time with the Cincinnati Bengals, and the one
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  Speaker 1: thing about the Bengals this year is that they were tremendous,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: especially on defense, in making adjustments. And I'm thinking of
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  Speaker 1: two games against the Kansas City Chiefs, one in December
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: and then one again in the a f C title game,
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  Speaker 1: And after the Chiefs kind of ran all over and
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: ran up the score on the Bengals in the first half,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: the Bengals both times came out and essentially shut down
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  Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the second half. And that was indeed
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: because of some adjustments that were made at halftime and
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  Speaker 1: on the fly. But I will say this, this was
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  Speaker 1: possible because it was a very very smart and heady
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: and overly communicative defense. I would not say that that's
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: the norm. Yeah, I'm disappointed that the fired up raw
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Ra halftime is also not the norm, especially because of
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: all the movies that we've seen, and you know the
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: inspiration where they throw the cool music bed under the
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: under the voice who would be one head coach that
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: You're just like, Okay, this guy could talk and I'd
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: run through a wall for him. Oh, you know it's
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: that's actually a great question. Let me just rack my brain.
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  Speaker 1: There's one coach in particular who I've always thought very
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: highly of, both on the pro side and the college side.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: But it's been so long since he's coached in the NFL.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: But when I was still in college at the time,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: he was the head coach of the Jets, and now
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: he's at Arizona State, and then I got to work
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: with her Edwards at ESPN Herms. One of those like
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I think it depends on how you talk to people.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not the person who needs like the
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  Speaker 1: raw raw like get in your face and everyone's screaming.
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  Speaker 1: That's not how I roll. I'm more of like the
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: the easy like can you inspire me with your words?
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  Speaker 1: And that would be enough for me. You've been around
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: a ton of coaches, you must have one in mind
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: that you would run through a wall for. I'd like
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: to play for John Harbaugh. Okay, yeah, that's a good one.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: But that's a whole other episode, so we could get
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: into that one another time. Okay, well, look, that'll be
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: my question that I'll tweet you for our next episode.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: But there's more, Yeah, there's more. Questions that people are
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: firing off to us, including one that we actually just
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: got recently as in like morning of our record about
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the franchise tech, what exactly is it and how does
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: it work? Not to mention, we're gonna find out about
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: the shape and the materials that has changed throughout the
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: years with regard to the actual football and also what's
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: officially the biggest upset in league history. All of that
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: still become on the NFL Explained Podcast. Welcome back to
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: the NFL Explained Podcast. Mike Yam and d D Kinka
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Wallah with you. We are continuing to steam roll our
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: mail bag episode. We loved getting the questions throughout the
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: course of the season. You can find us on social
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: media at Mike Underscore Yam at a kin kabwala a d.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Let's get right back to this one. An incredible year
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: for football for so many different reasons. Probably the most
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: exciting playoffs of all time, and there was a lot
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: of parody, the road teams winning nearly fifty percent in
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: the games, that's the highest percentage since two thousand two,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: and there were a couple of massive upsets. In fact,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: the Jack's pulled off two of the top ten upsets
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: since Jacksonville. They beat Buffalo in Week nine, nine six,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: real barn Burners. There was the sixteen Yeah, it's that's
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: a career. That's probably the better way of describing it. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: The then not to mention the nine six game. They
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: were actually sixteen point underdogs in that one. Then they
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: took down the Colts as four team point underdogs in
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Week eighteen, ending in these chances to the postseason, becoming
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: the first team ever to win two games as a
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: two touchdown or more underdog. And then that one, of
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: course set into play Mike. Such a fascinating week a team, right,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: the Steelers and Ben Roethlisberger back into the playoffs. Everybody
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: in the country is staying up late to watch the
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Raiders and the Chargers and see if that game is
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: going to end in a tie or what I mean really,
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Tomlin told you he
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: was sleeping, claimed he was sleeping. Whatever. I'm not trying
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  Speaker 1: to bridge I can sell you to add I know
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: what you're thinking here. The biggest upsets since the records
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  Speaker 1: began in nineteen seventy eight, well, three teams have won
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: games as seventeen and a half point underdogs. The winless
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  Speaker 1: at the time Jets took down the Rams twenty in
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Week fifteen season. I remember that game a year earlier
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  Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. Remember the Dolphins they beat the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: in Week seventeen by a count that's actually beat Miami
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  Speaker 1: forty three to nothing earlier that season. And then the
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Colts beat the Patriots as seventeen and a half point
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  Speaker 1: dogs in nineteen seventy eight. That final was thirty four seven,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: so all three winning teams on the road. So we
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: shouldn't feel too bad for the Patriots because they actually
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: hold the record for the most games in a row
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  Speaker 1: as a favorite. How about sixty two times from Week
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: four of sixteen all the way to Week one of twenty,
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  Speaker 1: so basically four years the Patriots went into a game
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  Speaker 1: as a favorite in that span forty eight and fourteen.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's remarkable, and it does explain why Tom
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Brady's got all those rings. Kurt Warner's Rams team, right,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: the greatest show on turf. They must have been favorites
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: a bunch two right. I'm glad you asked a d
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: D faves fifty straight games for a three year span.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Week four three week four of two thousand and two,
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  Speaker 1: they were thirty five and fifteen in those games, and
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  Speaker 1: then the next three that are on the list, you
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: got the Niners a thirty five games span from nine
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  Speaker 1: five and then another thirty five game span from eight
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  Speaker 1: four to eighties six, and not to mention a thirty
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: three game span from ninety six to so. And just
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: in case you're wondering about active streaks and what's happening there,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: the Bucks have an active streak of twenty one games
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: as a favorite. But you would imagine with a new
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: quarterback in that goat guy kind of on the sidelines
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: being a spectator, I would imagine that some of those
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: numbers actually change. What about the flip who spent the
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: most consecutive games is the underdog? This year's Super Bowl champs, Actually,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: the Ramp top the list the most consecutive games as
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: an underdog forty three games from week fourteen to two
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: thousand and seven to weeks seven of as the underdog,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: which is kind of I guess maybe I shouldn't be
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: all that surprised, just kind of flashing back to some
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: of those games from back in the day and just
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: also knowing some of the success that the Rams have
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: had generally speaking, and you made reference to sort of
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: that error with the Greatest Show on Turf with Kurt
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Warner and company. But if you're wondering, hey, what about
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: the Browns and the Lions. Yeah, those teams they've they've struggled, right, Oh, Mike,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: those poor Lions and Browns not exactly the most glorious
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: pieces of their history, but you know what, they are
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: two of the oldest NFL franchises, and so you would
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: expect some roller coasters, and you would also expect that
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: they've played with quite a few iterations of the football.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: If you look at the old videos of the NFL,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: the football itself is involved really quite a bit, right,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Like the first college football game in eighteen sixty nine,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: which actually was played in our great state of New Jersey,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: was around rubber ball. But the first football's were actually
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: made from an inflated pigs the ladder. They were rounder,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: so they were more difficult to throw. It was almost
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: like trying to throw an inflated balloon. And here's something
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: really gross. The players inflated them with their mouth. Yeah,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: And then a leather cover was placed on top and
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: stitched together and here's another little known fact. At the time,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: soccer balls were also made of pig ladders, so the
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: ball got narrower once the forward pass was officially added
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  Speaker 1: to the game in nineteen o six, because as we
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: just said, it's kind of hard to throw that inflated balloon,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: and as the ball gets a little bit narrower, it's
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: a little bit aerodynamic. But I will say this, the
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: ball shape wasn't actually standardized Mike until nineteen thirty when
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: the National Football League officially came into existence, So through
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: the years, the specifications have continued to evolve. In nineteen
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: thirty four, there was a rule to taper the ends
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: and reduce the total circumference of the middle of the ball.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Maybe if it had been reduced even more, Kenny Pickett's
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: hand size wouldn't be such a hot topic of conversation
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: right now. And the ball has been made exclusively by
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Wilson since nineteen forty one. Wilson remains the official supplier
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: of the NFL's footballs today. According to the official rule book,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: today's ball must be made of eurythane bladder enclosed in
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: a pebble grained leather case of a natural tan color.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Without corrugations of any kind, and it also must be
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: filled with between twelve point five and thirteen point five
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  Speaker 1: pounds of air. Don't ask Tom Brady or the New
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: England Patriots about that specification. Each team's equipment crew MIC
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: spends a significant amount of time prepping footballs for game day.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: A brand new ball out of the box is very,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: very rigid, so the equipment team goes to work using
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: things like brushes and oils to soften them. I can
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: tell you this that Tom Brady and Brian Horrier after him,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and quite a few quarterbacks have liked using Mississippi mud,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: which is something that baseball players use on baseballs. Anyway,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: the end result is working the football, makes it softer, tackier,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: and a more throwable ball. As for game day, the
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: referee is the sole judge as to whether all balls
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: are fully compliant with the necessary specifications. All the balls
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: are under the referee supervision until they're delivered to the
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: ball at tendant just before kickoff, and each team is
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: required to have exactly twelve balls available for testing by
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  Speaker 1: the referee no less than two and a half hours
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  Speaker 1: before kickoff each game. Six football shipped by a manufacturer
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: are sealed in a special box and opened in the
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: officials locker room two hours in fifteen minutes before kickoff.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Those are the six footballs that are used exclusively for
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: the Kicking Game. Okay, deed, hold on one second, because
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I want to tweet you at a kawala at Mike
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  Speaker 1: underscore Y by the way, for our next episode, mail
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: bag episode. Since you're giving me the answer on the
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: good old pink skin so to speak, I would love
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: to know how many times the balls that are getting
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: tested get thrown out and are rules not game ready?
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Oh that's a good question for our next one. Like
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I would imagine, there's so much hype around it. So um,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: I'll just hit send on this tweet. Okay, So just
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  Speaker 1: I'll book mark that be tweet for welcome back to
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: NFL explained Mike, am Ina dB kin kawala with you.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: We're having a blast going through your questions on our
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: mail bag episode. Got some good ones still left to
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: fire off, some answers and a dd you made reference
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: to it. The Kicking Game actually a huge part of
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: the postseason. I know you were loving up Gabby who
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: was in Venice, who was listening to the show. She
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: loved the Justin Tucker episode, and it got us also
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: thinking about some other questions that people were focused in
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: on the rules of overtime, and the rules, of course
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: have been sort of a huge talking port I think about,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: you know, sending that ball through the uprights is certainly
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the thing that I think about most. So. A little
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: bit of the evolution of overtime since it began nineteen
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: forty one, sudden death overtimes instituted for playoff games. Fast
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: forward to nineteen eight. The first NFL playoff game decided
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: by overtime was actually the Colts and the Giants in
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: the NFL Championship Game, now known as the greatest game
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: ever played. UH. In nineteen seventy four, the NFL officially
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: adopted sudden death overtime to minimize ties, because who likes
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: a tie? We like things to be nice and tidy
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: and definitive. From nineteen twenty to nineteen seventy three, there
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: were two hundred and fifty six ties. That sounds excruciating.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I covered a tie this year the Lions at the
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Steelers when Mason Rudolph, the presumptive news starting quarterback for
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: the Steelers, was quarterback A yeah, no one wanted to
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: win that game. From what I remember, Yeah, there was
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: a lot of butt of issues in that one. NFL
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: actually changed the overtime rules for a playoff game, field
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: goal in the first drive of overtime no longer being
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: enough for a team to win. Playoff overtime rules expanded
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: to regular season and preseason games seven team overtime shortened
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: from fifteen to ten minutes, a lot of that player safety,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: and then in one the elimination of overtime for preseason games.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Bot in the conversation, that is like the biggest thing
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: in talk radio. I feel like whenever we get there,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: and certainly because of what we saw in the postseason
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: a DIT that makes a whole lot of sense well
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: for sure. And those current ot scoring rules, the idea
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: that there's not sudden death unless the team gets the
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: ball first scores of touchdown we're implemented in two thousand
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: and ten for the playoffs, two thousand and twelve for
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: the regular season. What will be interesting this year, Mike,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: after that Chiefs Bills overtime thriller in the divisional round,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: is if there is a change to the overtime rules
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: for the playoffs so that they match up in some
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: way with the regular season. Yeah, I think that might
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: be a little bit of a tall task here, But
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: the point is the NFL does have a history of
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: making adjustments, So, you know, just based off of the
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: fact that there's so much media attention around it, there's
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: no doubt that those conversations will continue to unfold. Well,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: you're right, Mike, that it may be a bit of
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: an uphill battle, But right now, there's actually two proposals
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: to the Competition Committee to amend the overtime rules, and
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: they come from the Colts and the Bills, both of
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: whom lost overtime games this past season after not possessing
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: the ball. So the Bills, of course, as we just reference,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: would like to see an extra period played out with
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: no sudden death in the playoffs, so essentially, just put
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: a certain amount of time on the clock and play
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: until it expires. The Cult proposal is just that both
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: teams have an opportunity to possess the ball. So the
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: way that these rules work, Mike, you're right is that
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: three quarters of the team need to sign off. That's
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: twenty four out of thirty two. I don't know what
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: do you think, would you vote yes to change or no.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I'm a yes to change guy. But I'm also I
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: have the luxury of being able to either be on
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: a set or on my couch watching the games and
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: not actually the physical demands. And what is actually you know,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: like you start doing this during the regular season and
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: you get these scenarios like this could be kind of
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: a funky situation in the postseason. I do think the
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: rules need to be potentially adjusted in those circumstances. I
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: could have done another fifteen minutes of the Bills Chiefs game.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Couldn't you have do that every night? Kid? I mean,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: that was that thing was awesome. I couldn't get enough
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: of that drama. It's like real, real life drama in
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: that situation. So I'm with you there. And indeed that
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: leads us to our final question, which actually came in
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: this morning. We always love getting them on social media
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: at Mike Underscore, yam at a King Kabuala and it's
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: kind of timely franchise tags in full force, and well
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: you got the tweets, so I'll let you kind of
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: handle that. Well, for sure, it was Alex Alex in
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Winterland says he would love to hear an explanation of
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: what a franchise tag is on our podcast. So, okay,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: franchise tags are essentially a one year contract, but it
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: comes in two different forms. There's the exclusive franchise tag
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: and there's the non exclusive. An exclusive tag means that
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: the player can only negotiate with the tagging team and
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: that the tagging team has to hay out an average
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: of the top five salaries at that player's position in
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: the current year. So those numbers, Mike, are kind of outrageous,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Like the Bengals just franchise tag twenty five year old
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: safety Jesse Bates. The franchise tag this year for safety
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: is thirteen million, five hundred and forty four thousand dollars,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: as I'm sure you can guess. A quarterbacks franchise tag
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: is twenty eight million, five hundred and ninety eight thousand dollars.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: A kickers franchise tag the average of the top five
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: salaries that his position five million, four hundred and sixty
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: nine thousand dollars. Now, in some cases it really financially
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: works out like a tight end. The franchise tag for
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: a tight end right now is ten million, eight hundred
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: and thirty four thousand dollars, right, which is why we've
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: seen quite a few tight ends franchise tagged in this
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: past week or so. But now let's go back to
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: the non exclusive tag. So what happens there is that
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: a team pays out an average of the top five
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: tag amounts of the player's position from the previous five years,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: and players who receive this tag can negotiate with other teams,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: but the tagging team has the right to match any offer.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: So if I give you a non exclusive tag, Mike,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: you can go ahead and negotiate with Rhett Lewis and
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Erica tam Posey and ANDREWA. Kramer to join their podcast,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: but I will have the right to go ahead and
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: match whatever Rhet Lewis offers you, which, by the nay,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: was not offering you as much as I could pass.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I'm going to let you go by any means. Now,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: where it gets really interesting is when a team places
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: multiple franchise tags on a player. So you can tag
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: a player one year and if you're unable. Usually I'll
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: say this, in my experience, most teams tag a player
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: with the intent to try to negotiate a longer term deal,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: and it just buys more time that they have that exclusive.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Let's call it a negotiating windows simply because the player
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: is tied to the team, the team is tied to
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: the player, and everybody's motivated to get something long term
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: done and you have more time to make that happen.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: If it doesn't work and you can't negotiate a long
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: term deal, well then a team could franchise tag a
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: player for a second time, but this time the player
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: gets a one hundred and twenty increase off of whatever
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  Speaker 1: was his franchise tag salary. So that's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: money and there's a lot of incentive there for a
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  Speaker 1: team to try to get a deal done. And a
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  Speaker 1: few years ago, this entire system was kind of thrown
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  Speaker 1: on its head when Levy on Bell the Steelers running
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  Speaker 1: back decided not to play under a second tag. And
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time on Levy on Bell watch.
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  Speaker 1: It's always interesting as a reporter when you start covering
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  Speaker 1: these stories and the amount of hours invested in something
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  Speaker 1: like that, that sort of drags on. It's it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of crazy, and I think there's people you know in
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  Speaker 1: Green Bay probably thinking the same thing. It's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: back to back years and now obviously gets solidified with
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers getting that four year extension for two hundred
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  Speaker 1: billion dollars. But when you're on Roger's Watch or Bell Watch,
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  Speaker 1: just it something that you just don't forget. Franchise tags
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  Speaker 1: here we go, well and for sure and for me
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  Speaker 1: it's I remember explaining that to my son at the time,
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  Speaker 1: I think he was three years old, because I had
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  Speaker 1: to be at the Steelers facility the week before the season.
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  Speaker 1: I had to be at the Steelers facility all day long,
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  Speaker 1: every single day as we were on Levan Bell Watch,
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  Speaker 1: and my son just didn't understand, like why every day
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  Speaker 1: all day and why are you missing my first day
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  Speaker 1: of school in this, that or the other. And the
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  Speaker 1: way that I explained to him, remember because he was
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: three years old, was the quarterback and the wide receiver
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  Speaker 1: in the offensive line. They're waiting for their friend to
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  Speaker 1: see if their friend will come and play with them,
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  Speaker 1: and he never really understood why the friend never came
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  Speaker 1: to be with his quarterback. Oh, I love that analogy,
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  Speaker 1: very digestible, but that that might be the best way
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  Speaker 1: to to explain. Oh, I have plenty wait until I
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  Speaker 1: tell you how I taught him the quarterback does, and
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  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he saw Marcus Mariotta hold
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  Speaker 1: the ball and he said, what that's a story for
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  Speaker 1: another time in any Mars. This one's been really fun. Everybody.
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  Speaker 1: he apparently, after this many podcast episodes, thinks that enough
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  Speaker 1: has heard. Oh, I thought you were just taking I
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  Speaker 1: thought you were closing it out because I agree with
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: everything that you're saying. I honestly it is. It's one
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  Speaker 1: to right Mike, we we learned things as well as
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  Speaker 1: we do this, so everybody, thank you. That's a rap
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  Speaker 1: this time that was all sorts of grab that. Questions
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