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Episode 403 - Can You Smell What the Mall Is Cooking? · TechtalkRadio

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The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network. Hey everybody,
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this is Jim Peterick of The IDEs of March, formerly with Survivor in a
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thirty eight special Faith, and you're listening to tech Talk Radio. Welcome to
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another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Seanda Weird,
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and I'm justin Lemme. Man. Has it been a busy week in tech
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There's been so much stuff going on. You guys been following, and it's
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been it's been hot. So I'm grateful for the technology of air conditioning.
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All right, So for those who don't know, you know, we're we're
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talking about heat. And yes, you know one hundred and eleven yesterday,
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monsoon storms have started here in southern Arizona, justin I'm sure you remember those.
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Oh yeah, So I thought those don't come till like August. Now
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we generally they'll start. Sometimes they'll start as early as May, and then
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monsoon season officially began last Saturday. Now they kind of just kind of roll
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in, and it all depends on what's going on down in Mexico. That
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stuff kind of moves its way up. But we've been dealing with the heat
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and Joshan, who I know is in Indiana, is telling me how hot
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it is there, and I'm thinking, how do you deal with it?
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It's not where you're supposed to have heat like that. It gets this hot
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during the summer. But it's just it was it's so humid. Yeah,
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it's an eighty ninety degree humid, ninety percent humidity. You walk outside and
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you're instantly sweating. It's just it's it's uncomfortable to be outside. It's not
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a dry heat like you guys have down there in Arizona, where it's like
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you go outside for a couple of minutes, you're fine. It's like you're
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walking into a wall of moist air. It's hot, and it was.
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It was ninety degrees yesterday and it got us. I don't think it got
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below eighty five overnight last night, so it stayed hot all night yesterday and
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then was back up into the mid nineties today. Oh man, I think
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it's It is currently eighty degrees out right now. It's ten ten pm and
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it's eighty still eighty degrees outside. We've had the past few days here in
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Denver, it's been like ninety two, ninety five, ninety seven, but
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then today was a nice refresher because of the high temperature was seventy two.
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Oh man, and that relief. Oh yeah, I don't get something.
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So I have a house in honey To Beach, and the house in honey
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To Beach, I mean it's by the beach. Well, we're about maybe
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fifteen minutes away from the beach. So never ever thought about putting You know,
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my parents didn't have air conditioning when they had the house, and we
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never thought about putting AC into my kids who lives in the house of saying
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dad, can you please invest in an AC system? Can you please get
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air conditioning because it's starting to get and it is it's like ninety degrees eighty
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five degrees without AC. I can't even imagine that traditional AC system's gonna it's
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gonna set you back quite a penny, like you said. But you know,
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they got these the split units now and they're a lot more affordable.
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I mean, we've had split units in Japan ever since I was, you
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know, back in the Navy, back in two thousand and three. I
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mean they've had split units in Japan since the nineteen eighties. That's what they
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use. I mean in Japan, they don't heat their entire house. They
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don't have what we call central air, right you know, where we have
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one system that does the whole house. They just they only heat and cool
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the rooms that they're in at that moment. And so they have split units
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basically all over the house. So you know now that that America's finally got
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these, I mean they're they're pretty affordable. I mean, I was looking
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at getting some split units for our house here in Denver at one point,
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and I think I saw something on Lows. It was like it was like
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three indoor split units with two exterior units, and I think the whole thing
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was like thirty five hundred or maybe it was five five hundred dollars. And
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you can also do those yourself because they're pretty much all self contained. All
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you gotta do is just cut a hole through your wall, seal it up
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with some you know, cock or some weather sealant, and you know,
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just fish the fish the pipes through it, hook them up the outdoor unit,
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and bam, you're all set. How do you have air conditioning out
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there in Indiana, Sean? Is it like you have, is it built
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it in the house or do you have splits central area. You know,
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it's it's central air. We have one unit that serves a little house nice,
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so it's it does a good job. I mean our house is twenty
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plus six hundred square feet or something like that, and it does a good
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job. The only downside is that the west side of our house is pretty
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exposed, so sixty to seventy percent of the day it's it's getting hit by
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the sun. Right so it it's seventy two degrees on the main floor,
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but it could be eighty four degrees on this on the in Max's room because
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the sun's just been beating on it all day. That's that's what that's the
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problem we have here in Colorado too, these houses, I mean the house
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I live in, and all of our neighbors this is the same thing.
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I mean, we've most people have just one central air unit, and there
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could be a massive difference in between your basement, your main floor, and
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your upper floor. I mean, basement's probably sitting around right now, My
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base's probably sitting around seventy. Main floors around seventy three, seventy four,
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but the upstairs is like, you know, seventy eight, seventy nine.
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Wow. Instead of getting a split in it, I got. I just
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got like a portable AC and so we put that up in our master bedroom
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during the summertime. And the only downside of that is, you know,
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it draws a lot of amps, you know, so it increases the power
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a lot, and it can cool down that upstairs super super quick. Right,
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but when it kicks on, I mean, so you can't have it
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like where the fan will just constantly run to give that nice you know,
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overnight white noise. No, it's like it'll cool and then it will shut
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off, and then when it kicks on, it's like no, right,
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you know, so it's like whoa, and it wakes you up at night,
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you know, so that that kind of sucks. But yeah, you
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know, we still get to the point where we can usually keep our windows
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open at night during this Now what is it? What is the optimum temperature?
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And and I'm kind of wondering we haven't touched on swamp coolers. You
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know, swamp coolers were big out here where you know, it's kind of
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water that's used to cool But somebody once told me, if you have a
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lot of electronics computers that kind of thing, that it's really not good because
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it puts more moisture in the air. Well. That's that's the exact that's
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the exact definition of a swamp cooler. It's the exact opposite of an air
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conditioner. I mean, air conditioner takes humidity out of your air. Swamp
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coolers put humidity back in. Now just moves cooler air, which is yeah
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cool. Yeah. Granted, swamp coolers are extremely better, much extremely better
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at cooling a room down because you're putting that moisture in air to carry that
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cold air with it. But yeah, you're right. If you've got a
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lot of electronics, swamp coolers are not the right thing for you. Probably,
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Yeah, that probably would not be that that great. The other thing
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is, you know, keeping the the you want to keep your technology kind
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of cool. Like Sean, what you mentioned about your house being on you
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know, one in the West End, that's exactly what I'm in the West
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Side gets all the light, and that's what the studio is. I'm thinking
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one day I'm gonna look like Robert Hayes from the movie Airplane when he's sweating.
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You know, That's what I'm gonna be like on the camera. But
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I thought you were I seriously thought you were going to say, you're gonna
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look like two Face from Dark Knight or the guy from Raiders the Lost Ark
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his face melts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But that's something else you
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got to think about too. If you know, you want to keep someone,
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if you've got the electronics you've got him on, they're generating heat if
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they're not getting that kind of airflow. The worst thing I remember when computers
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were really becoming popular, people wanted to hide them, so they put them
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in cabinets and then they would close the door, and people always wondered,
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you know, why the computer was either a making so much noise or b
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not performing well. You move the mouse, it would take a while because
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they were overheating. And just like us as humans, our computers can overheat
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too, which is not good. All this talk about air conditioning and stuff
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like that. I mean, with all the problems that I've recently had with
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you know, my basement flooding, and you know, going through this remodel
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and stuff, you know, I've done a lot of thinking. You know,
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again, my family's gone, I'm just sitting at home doing nothing,
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right, I'm just doing a lot of thinking. Yeah, and I've come
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to the conclusion that I really just need to learn how to do basic home
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repair because you know, my house is ten years old. I shouldn't have
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to think about it right yet because it's only ten years. But the thing
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is is, the truth of the matter is that these houses are not constructed
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to the quality that they used to be, you know, back in the
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day. They're just they're they turn these things out within months instead of a
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good part of a year, you know, like you can build. These
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people build houses. I just watched a town home, no, a triple,
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it was a what do you call that? Not a dupe try plex.
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I just witnessed a triplex go from foundation to fully open for tours in
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the course of three months. Three months. Wow, a triplex, Right,
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this is ridiculous the turnaround and they're, oh, no, we got
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a lot of staff. No, you don't know, you're using your cutting
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corners, you're doing cheap materials, you're doing these things as fast as it
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possibly can. So therefore the houses. Instead of these houses lasting fifty to
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one hundred years, they're lasting ten to twenty years. And so I've come
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to the conclusion that I need to learn how to do this basic home repair.
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And it's funny that we're talking about air conditioning because these last two nights,
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I've actually spent a considerable amount of time watching YouTube videos on how to
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clean you know, HVAC units, looking up my particular model, looking up
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other models. You know, how to flush a water heater, how to
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clean the coils of your h VAC unit, how to put refrigerant in your
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condenser coils if they need to, like all that stuff like, and it's
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kind of interesting to me a little bit. I don't know. I mean,
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you know, to each their own, but I've just found that these
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videos are interesting and informative, and I'm like, man, I just I
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need to learn how to do this because I can't afford to have a guy
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come out every every single time and you know, five hundred dollars here,
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one thousand dollars there, Yeah, you know, five thousand dollars if you
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want to get a refrigerant put back in. The guy that I just watched
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the video right before we joined this show, right before I came down and
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started talking to you guys, watch the guy do this refrigerant. First thing
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out of his mind was, well, how can I do this? If
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I can't get refrigerant because technically a consumer cannot buy refrigerant. You have to
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be a licensed oh contractor. But there's websites out there, like he even
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sort of like all you have to do is go to the website you can
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buy the refrigerant cans and there's a little checkbox that says I'm a licensed contractor.
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Click that and bam, now you can get your refrigerant. Wow.
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Like, it's not that hard and as long as you know what you're doing
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with it, you know. And so this video just taught me how to
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add refrigerant. Now. Granted I probably don't need to because you only need
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to do that if you have a leak, but it's good knowledge to have.
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Yeah. Yeah, do you find like when you're doing a search for
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something like and I've done it before too. I mean I had to replace
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a garbage dispuzzle. Not the easiest thing in the world. But you know,
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when you're when you're completely blue and you have no idea, like what
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do I do? Going to YouTube and finding a video can be a lifesaver
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and a step by step. Do you search normally on Google or do you
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do like just go to YouTube just search for the model number, and then
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what you want to do. I go straight to YouTube and do that,
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because I mean, there is literally a video for everything. I mean.
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I recently replaced our gasket on our front loader washer and I had no idea
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how to do it. And I found a video with my exact model of
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washer, and it walked me through step by step, remove this bolt,
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pull this pin, disconnect this wire, take off the front plight, blah
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blah blah. Done. I had a dishwasher. I had a frigidaire dishwasher,
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and well, there's a problem. So the but the button's quite working.
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You would just flash, right. So I went to YouTube typed in
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the model and it said this is the problem. The buttons get moisture in
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them and they go bad. And it senses that a button. It basically
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thinks of buttons being pressed down the whole time. Here's how you replace the
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panel. Go to this website, pay the one hundred dollars, get the
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new panel, put it in. Yeah, four screws later, my dishwasher
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was working again. Yeah. Nice. See And it makes you feel good.
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Yeah yeah, when you do that yourself and you can be like,
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you know what, I didn't have to hire somebody to do that. I
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feel like Tim the tool Man Taylor. Now, should you read? Should
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you read the comments though that are in there, because I've always found I
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like to read because because sometimes somebody will get on there and go, this
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is completely wrong, or this won't do this, or you know, people
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believe believe reviews based on that video of what you're learning how to do.
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Well, yeah, you have to. You have to still have to do
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your due diligence. You can't just be like, oh, yeah this this
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Joe Schmoe knows exactly what he's doing. Now, you have to still do
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your due diligence and make sure you are following somebody that has the reputation of
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knowing home repair or has a large following or something. There is there is
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that what Shawn is saying is absolutely correct. But what I do like about
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YouTube now is that they've also given the creators the ability to re upload or
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edit their videos without losing you know, that video's statistics. So like,
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if they've got like a million views, obviously that video, that video is
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gonna pop up, you know, before any other video. But if that
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video happens to have some incorrect information, YouTube gives the creator ability to like
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put like an addendum at the beginning saying, hey, we made a mistake
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here at this point you bl blah blah blah, and here's how to correct
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that. But for the most part, I mean, yeah, I'll read
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a little bit of the comments, and a lot of them are just most
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like, oh my god, you just saved me seven hundred dollars, Thank
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you so much, you know, and stuff like that. So that's it's
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awesome that you know I can do that, and it's it's it is funny
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how after doing these videos, after the last couple of days of just watching
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home improvement, it's funny to watch how the algorithm of YouTube changes a yeah,
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because now it just constantly serves me more home repair home construction DIY videos,
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right, because it knows you're you're looking at it because something you want
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processes yeah, and this is what you Oh, we we know that you
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want to watch this instead of funny cat videos and stuff now and now we're
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showing you funny cats fixing things at home. That's what it is. Boy,
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you can do anything with AI. Now you got to think about that.
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And you know that's Adobe has been in the news. We talked about
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this last week about them being in the news with the idea that people were
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upset because the terms of services have changed. Now they're under fire from the
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US government, the Federal Trade Commission. It will be ensued, Yeah,
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because they're seeing making it too hard to cancel an online subscription. Now,
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in the old days, I go back to all this photostyler where and I
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have my original discs, you know, and then you know, it became
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Adobe Photoshop and you had discs. You would install it and you could use
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it for a couple of years and the new version would come out. You
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would spend the money on that or maybe buy an upgrade after I want to
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say, the CS Master Suite five to five, maybe six, I'm not
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sure. But they made it so that, oh, now it's online,
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and now it's a subscription. So every year, you know, you pay
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X amount of dollars and you would get updates and or maybe even midyear you
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might get an update for a program. They found a new way to make
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something work. Well. The people now that are doing the subscription based are
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finding that they get to a point thinking, okay, I'm going to cancel.
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They're having a hard time canceling. Yeah, and it's it's not like
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you know, you and me calling up the cable company and saying, well,
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we want to cancel service. They will try and talk you out of
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it. They'll offer you some benefits if you stay with them. In this
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case, they're making it so it's kind of hidden from what most people are
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saying. Well, what they don't They want you to get frustrated. They
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want you to not be able to find it, so then you have to
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go and google it or search for it. They don't want they don't want,
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well it to be easy, because they would lose more people that way.
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It's not just that though, it's not just the fact of making it
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hard to find how to cancel. What they're doing, Oh oh you want
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to cancel. Oh well then you're going to have to pay all the fees.
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Ah yeah, there's a like an early cancelation fee or something like that.
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Not even just that, but like all these hidden fees that they've never
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disclosed to the consumers. They're saying, yeah, okay, you can cancel,
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but you're gonna have to pay us all of these extra fees. However,
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if you choose to stay with us for another year, we can make
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these fees go away. And that's what that's what consumers are saying, is
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they're basically extortion. It's extortion. Really, they're extorting the customers and threatening
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them with all these extra fees if they cancel. And then yes, also
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on top of that, they're making it very difficult to find out how to
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cancel, because people have been saying that they've been calling into Adobe and when
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they want to go cancel, they're just getting bounced around from person to person
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to person until the point where they get frustrated and hang up. Yeah.
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Yeah, kind of ran into it. I ran into that earlier this year
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with into it when I decided that quick Books it was just getting too expensive.
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It got to the point where you know, it's like almost almost five
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hundred dollars a year to use the service. And I finally said, and
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I came from that early quick Books where you you paid for it, you
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bought the disc and there you go. You were good, And even in
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this case, they didn't until I found that I could use an older version
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just for creating the invoices that I needed to do, and that's all it
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was. That's all I used anyways. But they made it a little difficult
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and it got to the point where it was really frustrating. But Adobe get
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ensued by the FTC is actually that's saying quite a bit. Combining with you
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what you opened up with this story about how Adobe's terms of services changed and
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were basically if you didn't follow that story, in the terms of services,
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it was basically saying that you give Adobe unrestricted rights to all of your content,
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any content that you create using their product, they are free to use
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for whatever they see fit, whether it be at especially the stuff in AI,
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and people were saying no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no no no. I'm paying you for your software, you don't
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get to use my content. The problem was is they could not use the
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software until they agreed to these terms, and if you did not agree,
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they would lock it out. You couldn't you would you could not use the
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software. I A guy a no name, Ron Hazelwood, he's on Facebook,
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did this post earlier today and he said non Adobe users say ooh ah
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at the AI pick and scroll on Adobe users, you may be interested in
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this. Adobe is playing the carrot and stick game. If you're like me,
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an open Photoshop in the last week you were greeted by an update to
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the terms of service. You didn't agree, you were immediately locked out.
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Now see that's that's so interesting that you were locked out of it, I
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said, I clicked agree. The carrot was generally of AI and the stick
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was in the TOS. Now, the terms of service says that any content
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they define content as and he says he's quoting here. Content means any text,
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information, communication, or material such as audio files, video files,
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electronic documents, images that you upload, import into, embed for use by,
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or create using the Adobe services and software. And I'm quoting again.
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You grant us Adobe a non exclusive, worldwide, royalty free sub licensable license
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to use, reproduce, publicly displayed, distribute, modified, create derivative works
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based on publicly perform, and translate the content. I believe the best way
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to say that is all your contents are now belonged to us exactly. Well,
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you know it's interesting because I, as I told you, I just
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recently went ahead and said, okay, Adobe, I want to take a
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look at the new suite the AI. They sent me over a license to
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give it a try, and I have on my phone Adobe Express, and
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I noticed that anytime I want to use it, upload it to a dope
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it does, upload it to Adobe where then I can make changes and then
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download it. But that means I have taken that photo and already uploaded it
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to them, So now they could use it as a derivative work. You
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just mentioned text documents. Yeah, people create sensitive documents, ye sense,
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lawyer lawsuit things, medical records, you know, private information. And they're
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basically saying no, no, we can do whatever we want with this.
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Now. Tax forms, you have your tax forms that are PDF, or
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you know, deeds of trust paperwork. Not a good look for Adobe,
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these two things. Even just intellectual property, right, like story ideas,
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you come up with story ideas, you put it in a PDF to send
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us. Somebody like they can take all that. Yeah, yeah, Ron
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did say, he said, I've researched some alternative programs. He says they
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have to be able to open raw and PSD files and have a comparable tool
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set. The one I like is called Affinity Photo two, so something to
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remember. Affinity Photo two. He says he's looking at that one as a
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possible alternative. I think there are some that don't care. There are some
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that just I create a picture. I really don't care. Though the Adobe
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Photoshops suite is pretty powerful, Premiere is pretty powerful. I mean PDFs,
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come on, PDFs are we use those every day? And though there are
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some people that aren't going to care, but I think a lot of professionals
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are going to be No, wait a minute, Wait a minute, these
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are my images and they've been using that. Now will they be moving to
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a new program? Will another program come along? Will Correll, who used
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to be really great into they had, you know, Correl the photo versions
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of it. Now it's more design, But will they bring more of that
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at back now that Adobe is kind of making some people angry? Or will
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Will Correll be forced to do the same thing. I don't know what's gonna
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happen, but adope, this is not a good look for Adobe. I
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mean these two, like I said, these two things combined a one to
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two punch man. They better get every single lawyer they got and try to
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fight this out. But I don't think they're gonna win. I mean,
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the Court of public opinion is in session right and right now it is not
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looking good for Adobe. They really really messed up. Wouldn't it be good?
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Okay? Number one, if they can they can fix this canceling online
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subscription mess they could they could fix that. Number two, Could they fix
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it so that Adobe says, all right, we don't have a claim on
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your photos, you know, and and if they're yours, will they do
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that? I don't think they will, though. I don't think they're gonna.
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I think they're gonna stick their guns and try to try to stick this
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out because they they think in their minds that they are untouchable. You know.
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They're one of those huge, giant tech companies that think that they can
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run the world, just like all these other tech companies. And I really
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think that the day of reckoning is coming for every single one of these tech
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companies. I mean, look at what happening to Meta right now. They're
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being sued by so many people over you know, allegations that you know,
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they're forcing children to be addicted to their platforms to be able to sell them
24:10
advertising. I really think that the day of reckoning is coming for these big
24:12
tech companies. We'll have to see how this plays out. The meantime,
24:15
we can take a break. Matter of fact, keeping on that note,
24:18
there has been something that this past week also has hit the news, and
24:22
a lot of people are talking about it, and a lot of parents are
24:25
finally going, We'll wait a minute, what does this mean? So we'll
24:27
do that when we come back. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean de Weird,
24:30
and I'm justin let me. You can find us on the web at
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tech talk radio dot com and now fact to tech talk Radio. Hey,
24:37
what's up. This is Tom Arnold and you're listening to tech talk Radio.
24:41
They're really great and I love them. Hey how about a copy of Windows?
24:45
Can I get a laptop? So before the break, we were just
24:49
talking about all these you know, technology companies getting sued and things. And
24:55
now you know, there's a new story that just came out a couple days
24:57
ago. I think it was the US Surgeon General. I mean the the
25:02
US Surgeon General wants to put like these these like tobacco style warnings, but
25:11
for social media, like he wants he wants these warnings that would like say
25:15
something like you know this social media has been proven to be addictive and can
25:21
lead to you know, mental health issues and stuff. Because you know,
25:26
tech companies aren't doing it. And and this is again, this is going
25:29
back to what I was saying before the break is you know, Metas being
25:30
sued and and a lot of parents are saying, you know, no,
25:34
you're not gonna be on social media. It's just it's not good for you.
25:37
I mean not even for kids, I mean just for adults in general.
25:41
Social media is horrible. Yeah, Sean is somebody that has pulled away
25:45
from social media. I mean except for today. I reactivated my Facebook today.
25:53
Why So, I was talking with a coworker who I went to college
26:00
with, and she has recently deleted her Facebook, and she's like, I
26:07
didn't download my photos. I didn't download any of my photos that I had
26:11
uploaded, albums from college and all stuff. So she's missing a good chunk
26:15
of her life from college and just beyond because that's the only place that existed.
26:22
It didn't exist anywhere else. So I was thinking, well, I
26:26
had done that, right, I had downloaded all my data off of Facebook.
26:30
You can do that, you can't, and there are guides for it.
26:33
But the only thing I hadn't grabbed was photos I was tagged in.
26:38
Oh So I did some research and I found a Chrome extension called Tagged Photo
26:45
Explorer out Tagged Photo Exporter. You add the extension to Chrome. You open
26:52
your Facebook photos tab, you start the extension, and it finds all of
26:57
the pictures that you're tagged in and download for you. Oh wow, so
27:02
interesting. Now afterwards, did you then delete the account again or I am
27:07
in the I literally started the process twenty minutes before we started recording, right,
27:11
so I have to say, but I have to go back in and
27:14
redactivate my Facebook account. But I thought, maybe you Right now, my
27:18
Facebook account is active, So I thought you were going a different direction with
27:22
this story, to be honest, I thought maybe what you were saying was
27:26
is that you were going to reactivate your account and go to her page because
27:32
you know, you were friends with her, and then download all of her
27:34
photos for her. Nor her Facebook book is gone. It's gone, like
27:40
it doesn't exist. She just didn't. No, it's still it still exists,
27:42
Yeah, kid, she I'm sure. I'm sure there's a way,
27:45
like I've done that before, where there's an account that maybe I had that
27:49
I decided I didn't want anymore, but I wanted still the photos. That
27:53
you could go online and say, download all of this and then once it's
27:56
downloaded, you could then delete it. You can do the same with Google,
28:00
Google Photos, a Google documents as well. Yeah, and when you
28:03
deactivate or delete your social media accounts, you don't really deactivate or delete.
28:07
It's always going to be there. I don't know. Is that true.
28:11
I would say yes, but it's proven to not necessarily be the case with
28:15
Apple. Right, Apple had that ole issue where deleted photos were coming back
28:18
because it was iCloud error. Yeah, right, so quote unquote error.
28:25
How do you feel about this though? Is is it really needed for the
28:29
Surgeon General to come out and say, listen, it's snapchat or yeah,
28:33
Instagram? Is it really addictive? Absolutely? I mean, and it's not
28:37
just social media, it's just the Internet in general. It's I mean,
28:40
they're all kind of social media platforms, but like YouTube, TikTok, all
28:45
these platforms are incredibly addicting, and they're predatory in terms of adserve and just
28:55
getting those ads in your faces and just being I don't know, tapping into
29:00
that serotonin part of your brain to get you back into it. There was
29:03
something I saw in passing a couple of days ago. I don't remember where
29:07
it was, but talking about how seventy five or something percent of children,
29:12
you know, ages, you know ten to like twenty right are suffering from
29:18
depression, and the common link is social media because they're just bombarded from the
29:23
time their children up until adults. This whole generation of people were just bombarded
29:30
with pictures of their friends and families and other things. And everybody's perfect,
29:36
well manicured lives, right, and they're all they're constantly trying to keep up
29:41
and one up each other with things. And so if you can't keep up
29:45
with the joneses per se, you know, you're going to lead to depression
29:48
because all my life sucks. Well, I can't do all the cool things.
29:52
And this is true. They more kids are depressed because social media.
29:56
I was zeber bullying and stuff. Wh growing up, we went out and
30:02
played, you know, I mean, that was the thing you did.
30:04
You went out in the front yard, you rude your bike, you hung
30:07
out with your friends. But that's that's that's what we did. That's what
30:11
I did. Yeah, and that's what I did in grade school. It's
30:15
and I guess you know, I don't. And and there are people that
30:18
are against this whole idea of the Surgeon General saying this that say, well,
30:22
it's the job of the parent. You're taking away the job of the
30:25
parent. Right, But is it out of hand? I mean a parent,
30:30
yes, comparent? But is it now? Okay, wait a minute,
30:33
they're they're if they're not say it at home, maybe they do,
30:36
But once they get to school, they've got their friends that are giving them
30:40
their device to log into their account, and then they're doing this and they
30:42
they post a photo and yeah, okay, they post a photo. How
30:45
many how many likes did I get? How many likes? It's all about
30:48
the thing. The problem, you know, that is that's the problem,
30:52
how many likes. But the kids are gonna find ways to do things.
30:55
I mean, think about it, Andy, When you were a kid,
30:57
right, you probably away and found a way to smoke a cigarette here and
31:02
there? No, right, no, oh yeah whatever. No, I
31:03
was a good kid. I was a Civil Air Patrol. It was an
31:06
ultar boy, right. I find that hard to believe. My dad us
31:11
anyway, my mom and dad used to go to Denny's our Friday night where
31:14
I was sitting with my friends Paul and Tom and Brian. And what were
31:18
we doing. We were drinking tea and we were talking about muddy Python,
31:22
the fermented tea, right, fermented tea, no Liptid's oh okay no,
31:29
But I mean kids are gonna do kids stuff. They're gonna find ways to
31:32
do those kind of things. But I think this is a good thing because
31:34
finally, finally, the federal government is stepping in and saying, yo,
31:38
this is a problem. But what because nobody else is doing it. Who
31:42
is it talking to though? Is it talking to that little all of us
31:47
fourteen year old who's just been given their first smartphone or tablet and once to
31:51
get on Snapchat and post photos. And here's my other problem. Are the
31:56
companies made to the people who own Snapchat, the people that own TikTok,
32:00
the people own be Real, Oh you'll be real and sold. Yeah.
32:02
But all of these companies, they're doing nothing to protect the kids from seeing
32:07
things they won't they shouldn't be seeing because they make money. It's all about
32:13
the almighty dollar. That's all they care about is how much money can we
32:17
make. These companies do not care that your kids are watching videos, or
32:23
they don't care. They just don't care. Yeah, they're making money off
32:28
your kids eyeballs. There has been a situation online with and this is what
32:32
I'm kind of down on meta for this one. But there's been a situation
32:37
on Facebook. I haven't seen this too much on Instagram, but on Facebook,
32:40
where I see somebody has completely copied the profile of somebody I know,
32:47
And it happens all the time, and I'll notify them and they won't do
32:52
it. They'll send me a know back. It doesn't it doesn't break,
32:55
you know, any rules I have. I have reported so much content on
33:02
Facebook, I mean, blatant sponsored ads like you see what was it about?
33:10
Gosh, maybe five six months ago, maybe eight months ago, there
33:15
were a barrage of Fanatics sportswear fake ads like Fanatics is the company that does
33:22
all like the NFL, NBA, and there was like these fake Yeah,
33:25
but they were like all these fake ads saying fanatics, you know, seventy
33:30
five percent off, get your jersey for twenty five bucks or something like that.
33:34
These were obvious scams, and I would report that content of Facebook and
33:38
Facebook every single time, like no, it's not breaking any of our rules.
33:44
It's like you you're I mean, it was so furious, It was
33:47
so frustrating. Yeah, because first off, they don't have any human eyeballs
33:52
looking at all. This All this content review is all just AI and again
33:58
they're making money. They're taking all that money from those scammers, and they're
34:01
like, yeah, sure, go ahead and run. They're stilletting paid.
34:04
We don't care the ad. Yeah, we don't care. Run your ads.
34:07
Right. Well, it's kind of like it's kind of like that laptop
34:09
that I bought because I said I got to do this just to see and
34:14
we were right. It was a fake ad, a ninety nine dollars laptop
34:16
clearance and never never thought anything, Well, my money was gone because it
34:21
went into went into the coffers of these people who bought the You can't believe
34:23
you actually did that. I wanted to see. I really wanted to to
34:27
see is this as fake as I think it is? And I was one
34:30
hundred percent correct? And you know that now you're you've got tagging going on.
34:36
But here's the thing. What can a parent do you know, other
34:39
than a parent don't get you don't give the kid a device, you know,
34:45
or does a parent sit with them? And you know, and it's
34:51
got to be frustrating. Well, I think what that second point you made,
34:53
that that that's that's step one. You know, first off, you're
34:58
not going to be able to get away with not giving your kid a device.
35:00
Now, I mean, I don't care who you are with this.
35:05
Oh anti device, anti television, Yeah, good luck with that, okay,
35:07
Because kids are being given laptops at school to do their homework on now
35:12
tablets at school to do their homework. They're gonna have devices. But I
35:17
think you're step two, that thing that you mentioned point number two. Sit
35:22
with your kid, Sit down and actually spend some time with them and teach
35:28
them that the Internet is a great place, but it is also a horrible
35:34
place. Yeah, and you have to be able to teach them what to
35:37
do and what not to do and what to be on the lookout for.
35:43
And if you don't do that, then yeah, you're gonna have problems.
35:46
But a lot of parents nowadays they feel like, oh, I'm just gonna
35:51
give my kid this device and let them watch you two because I don't want
35:52
to deal with them. How will you do? Unrestricted access is the biggest
35:59
no no you can you as a parent. Yeah, here's here's an iPad
36:01
with the internet. Go go ham. That's the biggest no no you could
36:07
do. A couple of weeks ago, we had the Gentleman on from canopy,
36:10
I mean, is a third party service that monitors a good idea.
36:15
I think I don't know part of it, but I don't think you can't.
36:16
You can't just get a third party service to give it to your kid.
36:20
Here you go, but I'm watching everything you do, you know,
36:22
I mean why not? You're the parent, right like you don't do you
36:28
don't follow by my rules, then you don't get to use the internet.
36:31
Like I mean, think about when you were a kid. It's like you're,
36:35
you know, in your house, like your parents are, like you
36:37
either play by my rules or you don't get to go out and play with
36:39
your friends, or you don't get your bike, you don't get to go
36:43
outside and hang out. You're gonna be by my rules or you're gonna be
36:45
in your bedroom grounded. Parents nowadays are too soft. You you both have
36:50
children, and I've got a grandson that's around the same age. You know,
36:53
they're young, justin your your son's a little older. What how will
36:58
you approach this when suddenly they they want to use this? Are you already
37:01
going through that? What do you already am? Well? I mean,
37:06
I first off, I don't let him watch any YouTube without me being somewhat
37:12
a present around. I mean, uh, it's either gonna be watching it
37:15
in the living room where we're all, you know, being around, or
37:19
it's right next to me. Yes, granted, sometimes I might get distracted
37:23
and then I look over and I'm like, what are you watching? And
37:27
he's like, oh, I'm watching this skimmitty toilet or whatever, and but
37:30
it's like a it's a remix where there's like guns and blood involved, and
37:34
I'm like, yeah, no, we're not watching that one, you know,
37:37
so like you have to constantly keep tabs on that. But I do
37:39
sit down with him and I say, look, you know, there are
37:43
a lot of things on the Internet that you should not see. And and
37:46
he, you know, obviously that gets him curious because he's like, well,
37:50
like what And I'm like, well, blood and guts, dead people,
37:55
and You're like do you really want to see that? And he's like,
37:58
no, no, I don't want to see that. I'm like,
38:00
well, then you need to understand why we we set limits for you,
38:04
and we only let you, you know, use the screens like an hour
38:07
a day, and that includes video game time. So he gets like one
38:13
hour a day between video games and YouTube. After that no more Sean you
38:17
like, so, yeah, I mean Max likes to watch YouTube on our
38:24
TV because you know, he can find Lightning mc queen videos or he can
38:29
hospitrol. He's two and a half. Okay, yeah, he'll he will
38:32
find you know, Blippy Disney know Disney you know, Disney movies, whatever.
38:37
Please don't you don't let him watch KYU do you that Canadian one day?
38:44
Oh my god? K And so mostly it's like ABC videos whatever.
38:49
So we don't spend a whole lot of time doing that. But that's the
38:53
only time he's on screens is occasionally at night when he's before but before bedtime,
38:59
or on the weekends if we're just being lazier in the house. But
39:02
we don't. We have I have friends who have kids that are a little
39:06
bit older to Max that they just hand him a tablet and the kid already
39:09
knows how to load YouTube on their own. Yeah. Max, we don't
39:14
want that for Max. We, like Justine said earlier, we're we're there's
39:21
no way we can't let Max learn technology. There's just no way that is
39:25
going to be a disservice for him. Yeah, but we have to give
39:30
we have to curate his habits on how to use technology in a way that's
39:36
going to benefit him in society, not just be not just be a mental
39:42
train, and not just be a place for him to just go and shut
39:45
out the world. Now, there's a time and a place for that,
39:49
right, there's a time and a place where you can go and find But
39:52
like any other addictive substance, there could be too much of it. What
39:59
do you do and it can be dangerous? What do you do when your
40:01
child comes to you and says, I've decided what I want to do for
40:05
my career. I want to be a social media influencer. Uh yeah,
40:10
I would say, well, first off, good luck with that. Oh
40:15
boy, say get a real job. Yeah, I just you know.
40:20
Technology can be great for education, it'd be great for learning, could be
40:23
great for fun, creativity, but there are some dark spots. And you
40:28
know, with this Surgeon General warning help, I would love to hear from
40:31
other parents that are listening to this right now, what have you done to
40:36
make it safer for your child when it comes to online activities or technology.
40:40
Feel free to drop us an email tech Guys at tech talk radio dot com.
40:45
We may read that solution on the air In the meantime, we do
40:47
have to take another break. The heat is here. We've got a warning
40:50
for you. We will share that with you coming up. I'm Andy Taylor,
40:53
I'm Seanda Weird, and I'm justin Lemmy and I was gonna plug something
40:58
else, but not after this segment, and so find us on the web
41:00
tech talk radio dot com. We'll be right back now back to tech talk
41:06
Radio. My problem is, I've got my pointer in the middle of the
41:09
screen and I need to move it to the left, but my mouth is
41:14
over on the left hand side of the pad, and if I go any
41:17
further to the left, it's going to go off the pad. Anyway,
41:21
if you can give me a call, I appreciate it. I'll wait for
41:23
you until I hear from you. So we've been talking a lot about this
41:32
whole social media tangent. Just going off on a rant about social media.
41:38
This is this is my theory. Is not associated with tech talk Radio.
41:45
Disclaimer. It is my personal opinion and theory that there is going to be
41:52
in the next decade or so a youth digital rebellion. Okay, what would
41:58
that be? Meaning younger children, probably teenagers, into high school and maybe
42:04
into early colleges are going to just dump the Internet. They're going to demand
42:09
that peer to peter, teacher to peter learning experience like tactile, actually reading
42:17
books, actually getting the hands on experience and getting the one on one interactions
42:22
with teachers instead of just saying, here's your iPad, do the lesson.
42:27
What were you just saying though? About what your wife Caitlin so she had
42:30
a friend's so one of her friends as a kid that's a teenager, and
42:36
the comment came up about like online shopping, and her her kids said,
42:40
what would it be like if we could do online shopping but in real life?
42:45
Oh my god, like that like going to the mall or you know,
42:52
going to like actually going and spending money in the community. Like yeah,
43:00
yeah, I don't know. I kind of just kind of just kind
43:04
of makes me, you know, face palmed, and this is like whatever,
43:06
but it's funny. There is going to be some level of there has
43:10
to be, right because there's just so many kids are falling so far behind
43:15
in the early ages because they're just relying on tablets. They're not getting that
43:20
tacticle experience, they're not getting the peer to peer communication skills, they're not
43:24
getting the teacher to peer communication skills, they're not getting critical thinking. There's
43:30
just so many things that technology. Technology is great like. Don't get me
43:32
wrong, I love technology, I love playing with it, but there is
43:37
some bad in just dumping everything to your kids on technology. Here's one other
43:42
thought too, And I was just thinking about the Sean and tell me guys
43:45
if you think I'm way off here, but the Fate, Meta and some
43:47
of these other companies would really love to push you into that more of a
43:52
an experience that is a virtual classroom, that is virtual shopping, that you're
43:58
wearing headsets that you were able to go anywhere you want and experience anything you
44:01
want. But let's face it, during that voyage, you've got an AD
44:07
feeding here and an AD feeding there. You've got a captive mind that has
44:10
an AD coming at it. If you're walking with your friends inside a shopping
44:15
mall of mall, right, you're you're you know, you see the signs,
44:20
but you honestly are You're It's not like an AD being fed right at
44:23
you. Is this there's this this dissociation with the Internet and with virtual everything.
44:34
Right, Yeah, you go to the mall, you're walking You're feeling
44:37
your feet on the carpet, You're feeling the air, You're feeling the mist
44:40
off the fountains. You're smelling Hollister as you walk by. Right, you're
44:45
feeling the clothes you're now you're giving me all nostalgic dude, right, you
44:49
know you There is a tactile function of the human experience that is missing,
44:54
right, and it's leading to I don't know what it's leading to, but
45:00
it's just that tactile experience. I got it. What is it? What
45:07
did you get? Meta needs to come out with tactile suits and a smell
45:12
function for the Meta Quest four so you can smell. Yeah, so your
45:16
haptic feedback with smell, just like Ready Player one. Right, that's what
45:21
they gotta do. I love this. Well, there's a meme that I
45:24
saw this week as an older gentleman and he's he's with a walker, and
45:28
he's he's got a younger man that's helping him, and he says, once
45:31
upon a time, motherboards had no onboard sound. If you want it sound,
45:37
you needed to spend lots of dollars to buy a card from sound Blaster,
45:40
a company called Creative and a guy saying sure, Grandpa, let's get
45:45
you to bed. Let's get you back to bed. Yeah. Yeah,
45:47
that meme is very that's a very famous meme. I love that meme.
45:51
How how different it will be, We'll have to see. But I like
45:54
the idea that John is purporting that maybe we'll see some kind of a some
46:00
kind of a change with the kids. Really want to experience something different,
46:04
or the next major attack on our country is going to be cut off the
46:07
internet for an extended period of time. Community, I'm not going to screwing
46:12
up. Yeah, yeah, exactly, the electricity, the grid, the
46:15
internet. I think that would be I honestly think that that would be something
46:19
that would be a target because then you spread that information fast about what's going
46:22
on. They don't want nobody would want that that would be doing something like
46:27
that. All right, the heat is here. We want to make sure
46:29
that we mentioned this for any of you that we have a habit and this
46:34
is the same for you and Indiana, same for you in Denver. We
46:38
have a habit of like we will put our laptop bag in the backseat of
46:43
the car or in the trunk, and you don't want to be doing that
46:49
because of the heat when you close it. If you say, you go
46:52
somewhere and I'll just put my laptop bag in the trunk and I'll go inside
46:54
shopping. Right, and you're in shopping for two hours, that heat inside
46:59
that vehicle get super hot and it will affect the electronics in your tablet,
47:04
your laptop, whatever you have in your car. But justin you and I
47:07
have both experienced this with dash cams, right, Yeah, a dash cam
47:13
that is in the direct sunlight, my battery basically expanded. It was ready
47:17
to blow up icy pillow. Yeah, well, think think of it this
47:22
way, right, the old the old age adage of the magnifying glass in
47:27
the ant, right, use the magnifying glass to set stuff on fire.
47:31
Right, Well, that's what a camera lenses. It's a focal point for
47:37
a lens. So if you if you park your car and your dash cam
47:40
is pointing at the sun, you are feeding that light directly into you the
47:45
censor of your camera. So you let it sit for three four hours,
47:49
you can literally melt your camera. Yeah, and I've had that actually happen.
47:53
So you want to you definitely want to take those down. You don't
47:57
want to leave the tablets or laptops or device in the car. And then
48:00
every year I do this, I call the annual warning. Michael Brian who
48:05
started tech talk radio with me back, you know, back in the nineties.
48:08
One day, I'll never forget he had taken He was a computer repair
48:13
guy too. He still is out there in the Palm desert. But he
48:16
had taken a bag full of canned air. His candair is great, Oh
48:22
no, and he had a laptop inside the bag. The canda air exploded
48:27
in the heat and destroyed his laptop, destroyed the bag. Stuff was all
48:34
over the inside of the windshield. It's just not a good sight. So
48:37
definitely gotta be careful about leaving those electronics to the car. And if you
48:39
have a dash some people have these dash car radios that you could pull the
48:44
you know, the the plate off, do it. You know, we
48:47
tend to just leave it in there. Not. I haven't seen one of
48:52
those in twenty five years, dude, I had this unit. You haven't
48:54
seen. I haven't seen a headless unit in like twenty five years. Man,
49:00
those are all the raids to be really cool. You're right, yeah,
49:04
they were. They were kind of cool. So something not to mention.
49:07
Not to mention. I mean, obviously don't leave electronics, but also
49:10
don't leave your children or your pets in your car either. Oh yeah,
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those two those are bad. That's kind of it's kind of bad. Not
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good. No, they're electronics, is one thing. Yeah, but yeah,
49:22
that probably wasn't the greatest reaction there. Yeah. Did you guys see
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the story this week? And I bought one of these, but I never
49:30
used it about Wells Fargo. Wells Fargo apparently found some employees that were using
49:37
mouse jigglers. Oh so they're working from home and they want to keep themselves
49:43
looking active or something. Yeah, so what happens is, you know,
49:45
it can actually look at the computer movement and see that, oh that computer
49:52
is doing of the of the mouse. Yeah. Yeah, they could see
49:54
that, and with that they say, okay, that person's working. Well
49:58
it's after I guess somebody probably talked. They found that there were employees that
50:04
bought the mouse jigulers. I remember I bought mine for like twelve bucks.
50:07
It was just to show on TV. But they were actually using these and
50:13
they got caught and they were terminated because they were being deceptive. So they
50:17
are basically hooking up their computer clocking in, setting a mouse jiggler, and
50:22
then going out golfing exactly not being there where they were supposed to be at
50:25
work. PC World, I want to mention this. They got a great
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article on how to turn off recall on Copilot plus PCs. Those PCs were
50:36
officially launched last Tuesday, and basically if you in this article, if you
50:43
turn it off, you could stop Windows from recording everything. Every five seconds,
50:47
the recall function records everything that happened on your PC. Sean talked about
50:51
this last week on the show. Takes a screenshot of your screen every five
50:54
seconds. They say, this is going to be used for AI to better
50:59
learn your habits. It's just basically going to use AI to analyze the images
51:06
so you can you can say, oh, I need this file that I
51:07
put in the recycle band, you know, and it's gonna look at AI.
51:12
It's going to go, oh yeah, here's the file and the recycle
51:14
band. It can then recall to that. They time and pull that file
51:17
out, and all of a sudden, they they claim that this is not
51:22
any all your stuff is not being archived or is not being scanned, it's
51:25
not being sent to the internet. They claim that it's all staying local to
51:31
your computer, which I really somehow doubt now if it. But I have
51:37
a question though, if it's like literally backing up everything or or or looking
51:45
at everything. What one question is, it's got to have a bunch of
51:50
extra storage, right, I mean, you got to have a bunch of
51:52
room for it to cash all that stuff. But the other question, more
51:57
important question is if if recall that's what they call it, recall, Right,
52:00
yeah, if recall is scanning your entire computer, is that considered a
52:07
total recall? Oh? Boy, here all week and get to the job
52:16
job. If you want to turn it off, you go to settings,
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Privacy and Security, recall and snapshots Ian Windows and then you should be able
52:24
to turn it off there deactivate it. But either way, I don't know.
52:29
We'll have to see how that plays out. Another quick break, come
52:31
back with more of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Seanda Weird,
52:36
and I'm justin letme fine find us on Facebook, dot com Forge last
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tech Talkers. We'll be right back and now. Fact to tech Talk Radio.
52:45
Sean has been keeping himself pretty busy with something that he wanted to tell
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us about for our kind of our website of the week. It's called board
52:52
Game Arena dot com. It is if you're big into board games or card
52:57
games, your dice games, those types of things. For gamerina dot com.
53:00
It's an incredible site to virtualize a lot of very popular board games and
53:06
you can play them online with your friends. Oh wow. The benefit is
53:09
you have to have a premium account, which is like five ninety nine a
53:13
month for some stuff. But if one person in your party has the premium
53:16
account, everybody that is in, like if you, if I invite you
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and justin you guys would gain the benefits of the premium account while we're playing,
53:25
so you would still get the expansions or you know, based on whatever
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game we're playing. There are tons and tons and tons of really really popular
53:31
games in your catan the pandemic games, all of your basic card games,
53:37
Uker Cribbage, you know, Yachtzia, Yellowstone, Monopoly, Monopoly, Monopoly.
53:45
Now, there are some licensing and rights issues, so you might not
53:47
get some of the very very popular ones like Monopoly or some of tho zones.
53:52
But they add more and more all the time. So I've been playing
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on this website for probably a decade, all right, and it's just been
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It's it's great to keep connected with your friends that you know, if you
54:05
need to have a board game night but you don't want to have people over.
54:07
It was great drink covid because you could just play virtually. What's the
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website you wrest again board game Arena dot com board? Is it b O
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r D or b R board A r D. Yeah. Now, the
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only thing I don't like about this RAF the bat is just I just don't
54:25
like the fact that I can't see all of the games you can choose from
54:30
without having to sign up for an account first. Oh yeah, I don't
54:35
like that. Yeah, oh, Sean, take a pick and send us
54:37
the list. There you go. Oh yeah, I will say I will
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take a pick and send you the list. All right, just a lot.
54:45
Justin is going to be out for a few weeks while his basement gets
54:49
completely trashed. So yeah, yeah, I'm gonna have to disconnect his studio,
54:52
so I may I may call in for a moment or whatever, just
54:57
let you know I'm still around. But yeah, it's gonna be I don't
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know, man, two three weeks or so. Maybe you can be one
55:02
of the callers. Since you know we want to try and start taking callers,
55:06
you could be one of the first callers through and ask us a question
55:08
that we can't answer. Sure, yeah, why not? That'd be great.
55:14
How do I lay down new carpet? There you go watch YouTube.
55:17
That's it for this week's Tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean
55:22
Duird, and I'm Justin Lemmy. We'll see you next time, or,
55:25
in my case, in a few weeks. Have yourselves a great week.