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And welcome back to the Tracer Rounds podcast.
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I'm Terry, your host, and you're on military broadcast radio
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where we're giving veterans a voice and tonight's veterans and
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tonight's voice is David Lee Brode, and he is an Air Force
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veteran. Welcome.
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Thank you, Pam. It's nice to have you on the
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platform tonight. So we did mention that you are
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Air Force. You want to tell us a little bit
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about your military service, maybe what when you joined and
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why you joined and then why you picked Air Force.
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Funny story, I used to work at McDonald's.
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OK, we had a really bad, bad night that night.
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It was they had 7 or 8 tour buses come in for the high
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school championships and the guy before me didn't order meat.
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So like we couldn't serve anybody.
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So it's like, oh, it was horrible.
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I've been called so many different things and I said, you
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know what, I'm better than this. So the next day I went down to
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the local recruiter and I signed up for the Air Force and I told
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him I want to be a vehicle mechanic.
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They said well you can't do that, you got a 13 month wait.
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I said OK, that's what I want. So I did, I signed up and I
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waited 13 months and I actually got the job that I wanted.
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Oh wow that was a 19/19/84 is when I went active.
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Duty. So why did you pick Air Force
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over Army, Marines. Navy.
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I don't know, my dad said the same thing because he was Navy
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and he was giving me all kinds of grief about it.
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But I don't know, I just, I just had this feeling that maybe that
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was for me, you know, it's like it was all new.
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I was scared just like any other kid my age, I guess then.
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So I took a chance and it, it, it wasn't supposed to turn into
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a career. I was just going to do 4 years
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and get out. But my first assignment was Hahn
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Air Race, Germany here. I'm a single kid, got a ground
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floor apt. I had a car.
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It's like, this is awesome. So it's like that's, you know,
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it's like I, I, I was all in. I I I totally committed and it
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was awesome. So what's, what were some of
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your assignments? You, you told me before the show
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that you'd traveled a lot and that you had some deployments.
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I think what was like one of your favorite deployments?
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And then what was the one? Maybe where you learn the most?
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Well, later, later in my career, I got I got to live in Egypt for
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six months. Oh wow.
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Absolutely phenomenal. I I love, I love Luxor, Carnac,
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Cairo, Aswan Dam, Valley of the Kings, Queens.
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I got to see it because I got to live there.
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So it's no rush. Like, yeah, I didn't have to
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rush, you know, like you're there for like 2-3 days and you
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don't get to see nothing. But I got to see it all.
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Red Sea, diving in the Red Sea. It was, it was awesome.
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So that was like my most memorable, a good memory of
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assignment. My first assignment, actually my
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second assignment when I took a a ACOT down to bad Crutchnach,
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Germany, I went into Ford Air Control.
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So I was in Ford Air Control unit for four years and that's
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where I ended up. I judge that assignment
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everywhere I've ever been stationed because we still keep
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in touch. I had the best leadership.
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It was amazing. And it's like everybody treated
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each other like a brother, you know, and it's like, and
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everywhere I went after that, I always, you know, check it.
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I check it. It's like, what's this place got
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that, that, you know, it's like, and I always go back to that,
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that assignment there was like one of the best assignments I
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ever had. And I judged everyone after
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that. Well, out of that we had an
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inspection one time and the Colonel from Sembach come up to
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visit us and and I'm getting a by name tasking a week and 1/2
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after Saddam Hussein invaded. So I had to round up a bunch of
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equipment and then I ended up deploying down to it wasn't King
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Khalid Military City yet. It was just dust, sand.
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And when I left you thought you were at Rammstein.
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It was amazing. But yeah, it's like I got got
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the full front of it because like KKMC was not not that far
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from where stuff was blown up. So yeah, about nine months on,
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Samantha learned a lot. Yeah.
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So. You, you said before the show we
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were talking about just some of your time over in overseas and
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that you had developed PTSD from one of your deployments
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overseas. And how did you deal with that?
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Did you realize that's what it was or what?
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What was it that told you that's what was going on or, or did
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somebody else tell you that's what's what's going on?
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Well, that incident there, it, it was in Desert Storm.
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There was a town that was next next to us called Hopper
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Albertine and a bunch of Scuds come in and, and wiped out a lot
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of stuff over there. So we had to do, we did a
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patrol. We went over there to, to do
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some, some checking it out and everything.
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And a local national was in a car and he did, I guess he
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didn't see a convoy and he ran into the back of one of the five
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tons in front of me. So we jumped out and got him out
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of the car and I'm trying to do CPR on him and it was, I don't
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know, he he didn't make it, but this is, I still feel it in my
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hands. Right.
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Yeah, that's tough. Then long after, after I get
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back, you know, it's like they sent everybody down to
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Fitzsimmons Army Medical Center and, and gave evaluations and
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everything. And I explained to him what what
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had happened. And they didn't really call it
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PTSD back then. So it was a tournament came
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later. Yeah.
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Yeah, it was just trying to deal with it and I and I felt when I
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started playing my guitar again, singing, it kind of goes away.
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So, you know, that's my, that's my kryptonite.
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Right. That's your therapy.
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That's, that's the ticket to really kind of working through
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those issues. So you spent 24 years in in the
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military in the Air Force. What did you do after and and
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how did at what point did you decide OK, my fund meters pegged
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or did you just decide it's time to get out or, or what was the
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reason why you decided to get out or that you did get out of
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the military? I don't know, it's like you stay
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in so long, sometimes you get complacent, right?
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You just, you're used to everything and it's like I got
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thinking about it's like maybe I need to step away from it.
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But I didn't get far because I I retired on a Friday and then I
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ended up taking a civil service slot on the shop floor.
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I went from fleet management, I worked my way up to fleet
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management and then I just wanted to be a nobody.
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I just wanted to turn wrenches and and that's what I did for
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about right ten years after I retired station out of
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Vandenberg then so. Yeah.
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We decided wanted to change from that, so wanted to get back on
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the East Coast or at least closer to the East Coast while I
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still had family still alive. So volunteered to go to Robbins
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here and I've been at Robbins Air Force Base ever since.
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Still on vehicle maintenance coming up.
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It'll be 44 years in vehicle maintenance.
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So I got what I wanted. I wanted to be a mechanic.
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So I went full circle and I'm still doing it and it's still
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fun. And, and, and that's what I tell
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everybody, It's like, if your job's fun, it's not a job,
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right? So, but there'll be a time when,
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yeah, I want to do something else.
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Right now it's still kind of fun.
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So yeah, I still feel productive.
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So I'm going to keep doing it and then do my music on the
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side. What do you work on?
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What type of trucks? Oh, I'm a, a contracting officer
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representative and a heavy equipment inspector.
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So my shops contracted out. They they do a five year
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contract and then I just have to make sure that they follow Air
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Force standards and the regulations and, you know, be a
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good steward of the money. Right, Definitely need that,
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need to make sure that the government's getting what
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they're paying for. So I applaud you for doing that
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because someone needs to be monitoring.
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Thank you. So you have you told me before
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the show that you grew up playing music or learning music
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or listening to music because you had family that helped
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engage you in that. So tell us a little bit about
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that and how you got started in music.
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Oh yeah, I had a my Uncle Thompson Moore had a bluegrass
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fan back in the 50s, and they cut a couple records and
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everything, so he's all time playing and singing and stuff.
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And it's like, I want to do that.
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Yeah, I want to do that. So it's like he showed me a
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couple chords and, and I've stuck with it.
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I, I know my parents probably seemed like it was not until I
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could play them right. But then I started playing and
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singing. And it's neat because that had a
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bunch of, if I don't remember the old cassette decks, the
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channel master square, square boxes.
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And at the age of 12, I figured out how to multitrack doing
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that. He had like 3 or 4 of them.
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So I would record on one, play it back and I'd record on
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another one and I keep doing it somewhere.
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I still got the tape where I did.
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I did this on Godzilla and I was beating on a garbage can for the
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drums and everything. But it's it's basic multi
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tracking. I figured that out when I was 12
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years old, so. That's awesome.
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Kids are really ingenuity. They can really figure out a way
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to do things. When you don't think there's a
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way possible, they figure it out.
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I'm telling you, it's like always something to do.
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We'll just say that in my household it was always
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something to do so. That's awesome.
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So you said that you've written how many songs?
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We I think like 40 or 50 songs. Yep, I probably have 7070.
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Songs. Oh wow.
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Yeah, and it's like, and I've been sitting on them for 30 plus
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years and it's just, it clicked inside of me.
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It's like, you know, you have to at least try, right?
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Or, or otherwise nobody will ever hear.
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So that's what I've recently started doing.
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I, I, I, I got my library called copyrights.
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So now I can do whatever I want. And it's kind of neat though, I
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look at like this, this introduction of AI has opened a
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different world for me because I don't have a band right now.
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So I can take my music and I can add things to it or I can alter
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it and and then I almost get what I want, you know what I'm
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saying? It's like it gets, it lets me
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know that the songs that I wrote have good bones.
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All I've got to do is 1. Either get it, get into the
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studio, get it recorded, or two, market it and pitch it to
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somebody that would do better than me.
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But my ideas are solid. So that's what it showed me.
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So I'm, I'm trying to do that. I'm trying to get them out there
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like I'm on Apple, I'm on Spotify, YouTube, countless
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others went through CD Baby as the promoter.
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So they're currently putting some new stuff for me.
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I don't know if Joel got you that copy of Hold My Beer.
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That's the one I just released. That's one of my better songs
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right there. Yeah, for.
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Sure. So was the first song you wrote
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or was it just the first video? The fire in her In her.
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Eye Oh, fire in her eye. That's that's my first music
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video. I've had that song for a long
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time a bit. I just it needed a video to tell
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the story and it's me being a storyteller.
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It's like, I guess I do. I'm kind of thinking
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out-of-the-box. It's like the song only tells a
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portion of it. The video fills in the other
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things that I want you to see. So I guess I'm thinking like a
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director. I don't know.
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It's like I want to multi angle tell this story.
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I'm just just me thinking it's like whether it's right or not,
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I don't know. Just watch a video and and see
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if you get it or not. It's like that tells me if I'm
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on the right path or not. So, but I threw it out there.
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I, I put it on YouTube. So it's up there to if you want
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to check it out. So what was the inspiration for
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that song? Was there an inspiration or it's
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just some lyrics came to you and you just put them together?
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Well, I was thinking about, I got a lot of friends and stuff
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and I wrote this song a long time ago and it's like this girl
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that couldn't make a decision. She was, she was torn between
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what do I do? She can never make a decision.
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And I thought about it's like she lived with her dad.
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Her dad was her rock best friend.
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He died suddenly and then she's stuck on the farm.
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So it's like, and then she has this musical past with him and
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it's like, and she always wanted to go to Nashville and try to
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see if what happens. So this is a song about her
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breaking that chain and she's scared to death and she she goes
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to Nashville to try to make that dream come true.
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And that's what I tried to portray in the video in, in, in
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real life, it's like we're all like that.
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It's like you're afraid to step out of that box.
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You're right. So comfortable, but maybe that's
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not where you need to be. You need to try to do something
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different. And that's she couldn't bring
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herself to do it until her father died.
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And it's like, you know, I she had to do it.
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That's that's, that's kind of like the the premise of what I
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came up with for that story. Well, let's watch it.
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Let's watch the video. So this is David Lee Rd. and
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this is fire in her eye. The station where our veterans
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Us on the web at NB radio dot. And that was awesome.
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So you're back on military broadcast radio and the Tracer
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Elms podcast, and we just have a comment from one of our hosts
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that's watching. She hosts The World of Conscious
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Positive Thinking on Mondays AD. 9 PM. 9:00 AM Eastern.
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She says she loves the frequency rhythms of the song with
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storytelling is the best medicine.
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Thank you. You have a great voice, by the
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way, if I didn't already tell you that, you do.
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I love the tone and the just the sound.
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It's so rich and so full. It's a great, it's a great
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storytelling voice. It's getting harder to hit the
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high ones, I'll just tell you that, but I'm still trying to
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get it out there, so. So you, you put that all
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together, all the instruments and everything with AI?
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Yes, with your voice. Well, I played guitar and and
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played guitar and sang, but I added the rest of the band and
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everything. It took me a long time to get it
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the way I want it, but. It sounds really good.
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It's it's very, it sounds very finished.
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Well, thank you. I've never had any professional
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mixing anything. So I'm just, I'm going by what I
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hear in my head. And I think a lot of musicians
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or or at least songwriters and guys that do this will, they'll
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understand it. Sometimes it's hard to get what
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you hear in your head to your hands.
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I try all the time. There's some things I wanted
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everybody to hear, but I don't know how to do it.
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That's what I need to get with the right people and maybe
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somebody will know what I'm going to do, like when I explain
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it. So I don't know.
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So have you taken your music out anywhere?
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I know you said that you did some performances in Texas and
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some other places. Oh, back in the day, it's like
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when I was stationed at Ellsworth, they used to have a
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before Star Search, they had this thing called the Jimmy Dean
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True Value Country Showdown, which was a big deal everywhere
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for like for us. So it's like I placed in two
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different states when I was in in I got to play at the
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regionals when I won the the local level and for out of Rapid
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City. And then when I got stationed
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down at Cannon, I won the for West TX, New Mexico, and I got
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to open for country singer Doug Stone down at the Civic Center
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in El Paso. Biggest thing I've ever done.
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It's like, and it was so much fun because my I only had like a
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three piece band, but my steel guitarist was a fiddle player,
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played a banjo, played mandolin. And I'm telling you, we get up
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there and when Doug Stone introduced us, we we did wrapped
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around her finger while I remember that forever.
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It's like it's a it's a fun, it's a fun song, jitterbug song.
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I wrote this song a long time ago and Brian used to take the
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steel guitar and put it up on 2/2 of the feet and play it like
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a lead guitar. And people were going crazy.
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It's like it was even Doug Stone after that song, he goes, man, I
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like that. So I reached over to the mic and
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I grabbed the mic and I said, OK, Doug, why don't you hook us
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up? And there was 2000 people out in
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the down below at the the base of the Civic Center down there.
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And it's like, and I thought about it later, it's like, Nah,
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you never hooked me up. The.
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Playing is still. Guitar though is that's a
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workout. I didn't realize they use their
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knees so much and so playing is still guitar can wear a person
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out. I would think so.
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I can't imagine turning it like a like a guitar that I I can't
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picture it. I would have to see it to
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believe it. But yeah, we had a lot of fun, a
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lot of lot of fun doing that stuff.
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And then it's like it, it came and went.
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It's like I'd find military people that we bonded.
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Like one time in Riyadh, I got I as soon as I got stationed down
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in Riyadh, I met four guys and we put together a band in two
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weeks and we did a block party for 900 people.
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It was absolutely amazing. And then everybody PCs, they go
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go their separate ways and nobody keeps in touch.
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So it's like here, you got to start over and like that was
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great. I mean, these guys were awesome.
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I mean, it was, they felt like brothers.
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It's like, you know, when you click, you click when you get
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around the right people. So yeah, that's what happened
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there. So and it's like, and the last
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bunch of assignments, it's like I just couldn't find anybody to
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play with. So just keep writing and put
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them in my notebook and, and or napkins or whatever.
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That's that's the song I'm working on right now.
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It's all about musicians usually don't have paper when it's
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inspiration comes. So you, whatever's around you,
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you grabbed it right on. And mine just happened to be
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napkins. Right.
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Yeah, whatever. It's like scraps paper.
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And it's like, and I kept them all and I still have them, so
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I'll over them over the years. And it's like, you know what, I
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kind of know what I was thinking about back then.
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So then I can finish the song with it.
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But it's a song about napkins and it's like, and it comes to a
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point where if I can't remember the words, my napkins will speak
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for me. So that's what that song's going
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to be about, so. So where do you find you have
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the greatest inspiration? Is it in the middle of the
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night? Is it during the day?
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Is there like a certain, like you put yourself in a certain
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place and then you'd get creative?
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Is there a Is there a magic to creating a good song?
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I've had so many songs pop into my head driving in my truck,
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just something just clicks. Or just before bed when I know I
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got to get up early to go to work, something pops in my head
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and me, I'll go get a guitar and at least record it on a phone or
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something. So like when I wake up tomorrow,
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I kind of knew I was where I was going with it.
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So it it, it, it, I never know. Sometimes I write the words
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first. Sometimes the whole thing comes
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together in one sitting, like Let Freedom Ring, that song I
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wrote in one sitting. Wow.
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I don't know if you got to hear that one or not, but that.
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That was the one I was. Trying to get played everywhere
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on 4th of July. Yeah, I don't know if I remember
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hearing that one exactly. I'll have to look that one back
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up. And I wrote that song after When
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the Berlin Wall fell. OK.
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Yeah, so it was because I was stationed in Germany right there
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when that all that came down. So it's like, you know what?
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It's like that I wrote it in pieces and then that that that
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one verse is about the Berlin Wall coming down.
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So it's like, and it all came together, you know, about how
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let freedom ring and you know, it's like, there's only one way,
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right Freedom. So.
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Yeah, I should have added that one to play too.
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We do have another song if you want to play it.
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We have the last deployment if you want to play that.
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And you want to tell us a little bit about do you want either
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before, do you want to walk us into it or do you want to talk
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about it after we finish playing it?
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It's, it's about this soldier. He's, he's out of the military
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now is him dealing with PTSD and his is bad.
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And every night he writes a letter and puts beside the bed
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because he doesn't know if he's going to make it back.
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It's like his last deployment. And that's why I call it that
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because like he doesn't know if he's coming back.
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But he gets help with his brothers through the VA and, and
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they, they have their PTSD meetings where they, they sit
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and talk about it. So he's, he knows he's got some
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help. So it's, it's getting better,
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but it's one of them. You have to listen to it.
27:49
And then and at least you know that he's struggling with this.
27:53
But he's trying to stand tall like that.
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Sarge. He was.
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Yeah. And sometimes you can't.
28:01
Sometimes you need a little help.
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I get a little choked up on it because every one of my songs is
28:06
like got a piece of me in it. So yeah, well, that's why
28:11
they're good. It's 'cause they couldn't make
28:14
that hard in them, so let's go ahead and play that.
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So this is the last deployment. The station where our veterans
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voices are heard. MBR.
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Talk. Find us on the web at MB Radio
32:00
dot US. And welcome back.
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And we're with David Lee Broad. And that was his song The Last
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Deployment. So that one had a completely
32:10
different sound to it than the first one, obviously.
32:15
But I like that you can really change up your sound and your
32:20
voice to to match a certain genre because that's they were
32:25
totally different genres and that.
32:27
So how would you classify your music?
32:30
Or do you I? You know, it, it's all, it all
32:33
comes down to how I feel and and if the bones, like I said
32:37
before, the bones of the song are strong, it should be able to
32:42
cross genres. So I started looking at I don't
32:45
want to be stuck like if here's this country singer, it's like,
32:48
well, I like rock'n'roll. I like classic rock.
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It's like I like Southern rock. I like all this other stuff.
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I like Americana. I'm all over the place.
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It's like I'm not locked into one genre.
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It's like I want to tell stories, right?
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And however I got to do it, it's like that one I, I, I was all
33:08
over Southern rock with that one.
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That's what I felt. But I mean, but I got Americana
33:13
songs. I got oh man, what?
33:17
I'll have to come back whenever I get this, my copyrights back
33:21
for this next batch. I'm telling you, it's like I'm,
33:24
I've, I, I'm over the top with this next stuff.
33:27
It's like it's, it clicked up here.
33:29
So. But.
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I I can't say that I'm, I'm one, one or the other.
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It's like, I like, I like all music.
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I'm with you. I, I like a variety of music.
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I'm not stuck on one era or one genre or, you know, or one
33:45
artist. I, I, I like the gamut of, you
33:47
know, all different flavors of music because I think that opens
33:51
up possibilities when you expand your horizons beyond just, you
33:56
know, what somebody says you should like or what society says
34:00
you should like, you know, you're from the South, so you
34:03
should like country or Southern rock or whatever.
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I mean, it's like, no, I like all of these things because they
34:08
all resonate with my soul and they all make me happy.
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And that's really what music is about, is really about touching
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you here in your heart and, you know, really getting you into a
34:19
good headspace and a good place. You know, if you believe in
34:23
astrology and stuff like that, I started looking into that since
34:30
I like music, I like to tell stories.
34:33
There's a thing called Arcturian Arcturians were that's their
34:36
power is song and storytelling and it's like that.
34:41
Maybe that makes sense with me, I don't know.
34:43
Because like I've done it ever since I was a little kid.
34:45
I wrote music and I wrote it because it's what I feel and
34:49
things I experience. So I don't know.
34:54
So did you, did you do that in school too?
34:57
And did you ever perform in school, like when you were
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younger, you know, maybe junior high, high school, did you write
35:04
songs and ever perform with your friends or do any of that or for
35:07
school? I did was the drama club
35:11
president. Nice.
35:13
Then we wrote our own musicals. Yes, it was like, it was a lot
35:16
of fun and I had a good, good bunch of kids growing up with
35:19
it. They they understood, you know,
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it's like, let's make it fun because like our parents got to
35:24
come here and I know they don't want to come see us and
35:26
everything. So whatever.
35:27
It's like, so we'd make it fun for them.
35:29
I used to sit up on stage. I mean, one time in the out of
35:32
the out of the blue, I was out there playing Stairway to Heaven
35:35
in the middle of a play. It was like crazy.
35:37
It's like. Oh wow, so you play guitar?
35:43
And what other instruments do you play?
35:46
I mess around with mandolin. I got a mandola and I'm trying
35:50
to fix this string banjo upstairs.
35:52
I got I need to make a new nut for it, but I need I need more
35:57
banjo and I think America, everybody needs more banjo.
36:00
That's that's me thinking so. Kind of like the Saturday Night
36:04
Live thing where they said more cowbell you is bringing more.
36:07
Banjo. A good banjo never hurt for
36:12
sure. No love that each has a place.
36:16
Each has a place. As long as you don't, they're
36:18
competing for each other, then that's too much.
36:21
But it's nice to have a break. Mandola.
36:26
I like dobro. Dobro is awesome because just
36:29
I'm I can't do it, but I got some friends that do and I get
36:33
it it. It's the absolute.
36:36
When you have a sad song you want to pull that, you want to
36:39
pull that heart string, you got to get that dobro to it.
36:42
It grabs you. It does when they do it right.
36:45
Yeah, some instruments really will put you in a certain mind
36:49
frame when you hear their sounds.
36:51
I mean, they really do. So what's your favorite
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instrument to play? Is it the guitar or is it
36:56
something else? I I play acoustic guitar every
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day or I'll get my last ball out and I'll crank up my Marshall
37:05
and, and then the whole house is like, I like classic they're.
37:11
Like go outside with that. It's like, oh, I cracked it up.
37:15
I love it so. Well, tell us about the Creek
37:20
Rat Nation. What's that about?
37:23
I tell you what, I grew up on the Georges Creek back in
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Lonaconing, MD and everybody back there, we call ourselves
37:34
Crick rats because we grew up on the Creek, We played in it.
37:37
We because it's a, it's a like a used to be a coal mining town,
37:43
nothing but coal trucks and everything like that.
37:46
But Crick rats are territorial. They they look out after each
37:51
other. Everybody they're they're proud
37:54
of where they're from. We'll just say that.
37:57
So I think I struck a nerve when I I decided to write that song
38:03
about like the coal trucks coming down from the Buffalo
38:06
Coal Company or West Vaco and Paper Corporation were like, if
38:10
you didn't run a coal truck, you worked at West Vaco or you
38:13
worked at the Kelly Tire plant. There was no other job.
38:17
So it was like it struck a note and that the rivalries between
38:22
schools, like my school was the Valley High Black Knights.
38:25
And the biggest game of the year was against our rivals down in
38:28
Western Port where the Luke Mill was the Bruce, the Bruce High
38:32
School. And they always battled for this
38:34
thing called the little Brown jump.
38:36
And I'm telling you, people got in fights.
38:38
It was Rumble because I gave us such a big deal.
38:42
And then when I like I said, I put that in that song, people
38:45
listened. It's like, and it it took them
38:47
back in time because they they closed both those schools.
38:51
They merged them. Get this, they they merge your
38:54
rival school with you. Yeah, now it's called Westmar.
38:58
And there's still people that that don't agree with it.
39:02
You know, they, they want the Valley versus Bruce, but I
39:06
guess, you know, it'll live forever up here.
39:09
I bet that was hard when they did that, when there has been
39:12
such a rivalry. I bet it was pretty hard to put
39:15
those schools together to in the beginning.
39:16
I mean, probably now that's, you know, not as a big a thing as it
39:20
would have been back, you know, just after all the rivalries
39:24
with football and everything else.
39:26
It's like, how do you put those two together and have them be
39:29
nice to one another? Well, you know it, it ends with
39:33
the parents. Really.
39:34
The parents are the ones that that are they're like me.
39:37
I'm still I'm still a valley by Black Knight.
39:39
I'm ready to go. You know, it's like, but the
39:41
kids, the generations have forgotten about.
39:43
It's all they know is Westmore. That's the first school they go
39:46
went to for high school. So, you know, those memories are
39:50
gone unless they still have pictures down there between both
39:53
of them. I don't I haven't been out down
39:54
there. Next time I go home, I'm going
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to see if I can go visit and see, see what what's actually
39:59
going on in there. Right, they probably do.
40:02
I mean, if they were two merged schools, they probably kept the
40:05
histories of both and probably have it recorded somewhere in
40:08
the building I would think at. Least I had that little Brown
40:11
Jug trophy that we used to fight for.
40:13
I mean, fight for. That's funny.
40:17
Yeah, I played football. I played football when I
40:19
wrestled. So, yeah, that was, that was one
40:23
of our main rivals because we were a Class C school and
40:28
everybody else was like, hey, so we have I, I, I went to school
40:33
with like 60 kids and from the, the 6th grade up and, or
40:39
actually from kindergarten up, then we all graduated and
40:42
seniors. So it was that small the school,
40:44
but we did win a couple state championships.
40:46
So, you know, good on them. Yeah, that's awesome.
40:51
So what are you doing with your music now?
40:53
Do you intend to to push it out? Are you actively trying to sell
40:59
your music to to performers that might want to take on your song
41:03
and give it it another life? What are you trying to do with
41:06
your music? Right now I'm just trying to get
41:09
it out there in some shape or form like YouTube.
41:15
I'm I'm going like through CD Baby as the promoter that I'm
41:18
using right now. So right now I've just been
41:21
doing singles, but I want to drop an album next.
41:24
So my album's going to be called Baker's Dozen and I'm going to
41:28
have 13 songs on it and three of them, it's a concept album where
41:33
three of the songs are connected, like beginning,
41:37
middle and the end. It's it's like a story, a
41:41
storyline. If it, those songs are going to
41:44
connect to a bigger picture. So it's me thinking again.
41:47
So I don't know. We'll see how it is.
41:50
But yeah, ultimately, once I get all my copyrights back, yeah,
41:54
I'm going to put them out there. And then I just have to figure
41:57
out how you get around this algorithm thing.
42:00
Everything's done with an algorithm now.
42:02
So if you don't pay money, I don't know what to do.
42:06
It's like because I don't have a lot of open mic around here that
42:08
I can go play and sing, so I don't know what to do.
42:13
So it's like that's why I'll on whatever Ave. to get it out so
42:16
these people can hear it. Somebody wants to record it.
42:19
Yeah, we'll talk. I mean.
42:22
That would be neat, right? To have somebody want to record
42:25
one of your songs. Who would you want to record a
42:27
song that you've written you think that they'd be a perfect
42:30
fit for? I got some songs right now that
42:34
I think Zac Brown would would tear them up, and he's here in
42:39
Georgia, but I don't know how to get in touch with.
42:41
I did try to go to his Warrior Song program.
42:45
They have a, they have a program called Warrior Song where
42:47
they'll take in disabled bets and you go for a week.
42:52
They, they teach you industry things you need to know for
42:57
performing Musicians have a big show at the end of it and they
43:01
they try to help you out. I was trying to get into it, but
43:04
they kind of stand a little too old.
43:06
But that's, you know. What age got to do with it?
43:10
I know that one person telling me I can't do anything because
43:13
yeah, I might have a little Gray hair.
43:15
This is that. But it's up here.
43:17
It's the ideas I'm trying to get out so.
43:19
Right. Yeah, I didn't get my point yet.
43:21
Yeah, I don't know what age has to do with it, honestly.
43:24
I mean, because it's never too late to do things.
43:28
I mean, it really isn't. You can go after your dreams no
43:31
matter how old you are, as far as I'm concerned.
43:34
And that's that's one thing about me being a Sagittarius.
43:37
I don't like being told too much what to do, so I do.
43:44
I'm a Sagittarius too, so I guess maybe that's what it is.
43:47
Maybe I just don't like to be told no and I'm going to find a
43:49
way to do it anyway. I mean, Uncle Sam tells me what
43:53
to do all the time, so it's like.
43:56
Right. That's true.
43:57
Because he did for 24 years and then you went on the other side
44:01
and he's still telling you what to do.
44:03
He's still telling so, but there's going to come a date so.
44:07
Right. Then what will you do with all
44:10
your time? What do you think?
44:12
Well, I'll still want to get my. I want to get my, I want to get
44:15
my son out of school. Yeah.
44:16
And figure out what direction he wants to go.
44:20
But I'm going to write music. Stick to the honey do list.
44:24
Got to finish that. Always try to travel as much as
44:29
I can. Like we go all over the place.
44:31
We just got back from Bucharest, Romania.
44:34
We're family. We have family there.
44:36
And then we went to Athens, Greece.
44:39
We go as we go somewhere all the time.
44:40
So just trying to expand my son's world by getting to see
44:47
these things while I can still take them so.
44:50
Yeah, definitely. You definitely.
44:52
Need to see. Some of the things, yeah, make
44:54
the memories for sure. That's what it's about.
44:57
It's really about making the memories.
45:01
Yeah, I got a lot. I'll just try to my memories.
45:06
I'm putting in my song. So who says you can't live
45:10
forever, right? Very good.
45:12
Song. That's right.
45:14
And that song can live. On the context, yeah.
45:16
For decades, yeah. And it can really tell your
45:18
story. Yeah.
45:21
So how, how do you see your music connecting with veterans?
45:24
Do you see it as a way to kind of help people walk through?
45:28
Are you in any kind of groups that you know, you're, you're
45:32
all helping each other kind of walk through PTSD or just coming
45:36
out of the uniform? I know you still work for the
45:39
federal government, so you still kind of wear a hat federally
45:43
anyway, but how is it when you write, how is it when you come
45:47
off of active duty and you no longer wear the uniform?
45:51
I mean, there's a lot of transition that a lot of people
45:54
face and they're like, they don't realize who they are
45:57
anymore because they've lost their identity.
45:59
Because it was that uniform or it was that pair of boots or
46:02
whatever it was they did that title.
46:05
How did that happen for you? I know you went right into
46:07
something that was similar, so it wasn't probably as big of a
46:10
problem. Maybe for you, but for others,
46:14
how do you think the best way is to navigate that?
46:18
Well, I was, I was going from, you know, you're always an NCO
46:23
once once you're an NCO, you never retire.
46:26
Doesn't matter. So I would see young airmen
46:30
struggling and just just pull him aside.
46:33
Hey, what's up where his boss should be doing that.
46:35
But no, I would do I would take it on my own.
46:37
It's like, because all these years dealing with it, you know,
46:40
I can, maybe I can help them, you know.
46:41
So it's, that's what I, I, I try to do that as much as I can for
46:44
those that need it and try to give them a good advice or at
46:47
least point them in the right direction.
46:49
The chaplain, the whatever military one source, That's what
46:54
most of the, the young guys are using now with military one
46:57
source. Just just try, you still try to
47:01
set a good example, lead by example.
47:03
And I I still try to do it. Still got my military haircut
47:07
after all these years. I just feel I just like I never
47:13
retired. It's just I don't have the same
47:16
stress. It's I don't have the same
47:17
stress that I did. So, but yeah, I mean, just you
47:23
just got to take care of your troops.
47:25
You, you take care of them. You got to listen to them.
47:27
Even, you know, there's always somebody that don't want to say
47:31
anything because we're afraid. So don't force, don't force
47:35
them. Just just say, hey, you OK,
47:39
That's sometimes that's all it takes to show you care about
47:42
somebody and then they'll open up and then you can figure out
47:45
what's wrong with and then you know where to lead them to to
47:49
get the help they need. So I think that's just just
47:53
common, common advice because I've had to live.
47:59
Right. Definitely.
48:01
Just asking people, just talking to people, even if they don't
48:04
answer you right away, just having you engage with them
48:08
sometimes makes all the difference in the world to
48:10
somebody 'cause they're feeling isolated or alone maybe.
48:13
And just somebody reaching out really helps, you know, 'cause
48:17
you never know what people are going through.
48:19
Even though they may look fine on the surface, they're not
48:22
always fine. Like there may be something
48:24
brewing underneath that smile or that, you know, that happy
48:28
persona and there may not be a real happy person underneath
48:31
that. They're really dealing with
48:32
things and they're really just struggling to get by.
48:35
And so you just reaching out, just asking questions sometimes
48:38
is all the difference in the world.
48:40
Yeah, you can only keep a straight face so alone, 'cause
48:44
it's, it'll be tearing you up inside.
48:46
It it, it's tearing up inside and it's like, that's when it
48:49
leads to horse problems. So that's all we can do is look
48:54
out each after each other and it's, it just be a good
48:58
listener. Sometimes you don't even have to
48:59
say anything. So let them talk.
49:02
Yeah, let them bend. So it's just knowing, knowing
49:06
the things that you have to act on to, you have to do those
49:12
things in order maybe to save someone's life, you know, And so
49:15
you have to, you have to know those signs and know those
49:18
things. So it's like being active
49:20
participant in it. So I mean, like I'm always, I do
49:23
it everyday. I watch people, I watch the
49:26
stress, I watch what these constant taskings, all these
49:31
things that that we do here at Robinson and it takes its toll
49:35
on people. And the stress that I had to
49:38
deal with is different from what they people have to deal with
49:41
now. It's it's different kind of
49:43
stress. So I try to put myself in their
49:45
shoes, you know, because all you see is people doing this.
49:50
Right. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
49:52
It's like you can't. I don't know what's wrong with
49:54
you. It's like when I use your phone.
49:56
Come here. Talk to me.
49:57
Right. Yeah, put the phone down for a
49:59
second for sure. Yeah, it's like, yeah, give
50:02
yourself a break. Well, that's part of the problem
50:04
too, is people, you know, record so much and then some of the
50:08
stuff that probably shouldn't be out there is out there.
50:10
And then it leaves to a whole another level of stress because
50:13
they're having to deal with the blowback of having that thing
50:17
out there, whatever that might be, you know, because all their
50:20
all, all their, I guess maybe you'd say hiccups are recorded
50:27
and people are going to see them.
50:29
And that's the problem. You know, back in the day we
50:31
didn't have any of that or I didn't have any of that.
50:33
So my mistakes aren't everybody's business, you know,
50:36
all they had to be there to know about it.
50:38
But nowadays everything's out on the Internet, so everybody knows
50:41
about it. So that in itself is very
50:44
stressful for, you know, anybody that has that situation go on
50:49
because it haunts you all. I'm telling you, it's like
50:54
whoever invented this stuff figured out the that constant
50:58
endorphin dump as you're scrolling through garbage.
51:01
It's like garbage. It's like, what's this?
51:03
I mean, some of it's funny, yeah.
51:04
But yeah, 20 minutes later, you're still doing it.
51:07
It's like that's when you you got to, you got to limit
51:10
yourself on that. And I feel bad for these kids
51:12
growing up now because that's all they know.
51:14
Yeah. And it's like, what do you do?
51:18
It's like, I don't know, like. Oh, my son, he, he asked me the
51:25
other day, he's he's grown and older, but he was like, man, the
51:28
phone is taking up too much my time.
51:30
He said I need one of those dumb phones and Amazon actually sells
51:33
a dumb phone where it basically just rings and that's it.
51:37
Like you can't do anything else on it.
51:39
So you don't doom scroll. You don't like get on social
51:42
media, you don't like check your e-mail, all this stuff.
51:44
It's just a dumb phone. And I was like, and it's like
51:47
$700.00 or something for this dumb phone.
51:49
And I'm like, why in the world is a dumb phone $700.00?
51:53
It doesn't do anything but when. He says go buy, go buy goodwill
51:58
or something, See if you can find a Jitterbug.
52:01
It was like the old Jitterbug. They'd do nothing.
52:06
Yeah, they did very little. That's right.
52:08
But he was like, but but to your point, you know, he was just
52:10
getting so overwhelmed with, you know, everything that the phone
52:13
is because you just get so like engaged with whatever it is
52:18
that's on there. If it's TikTok or if it's
52:20
YouTube videos or Instagram, whatever it is, you know, like
52:24
it just draws you in and it's a time suck.
52:26
It just, it takes up your time and, you know, you could be
52:29
doing something productive besides, you know, having all
52:32
these videos that may be funny, but they're really not helping
52:36
you do anything. Yeah, 'cause like the, the, the,
52:40
the problem is that they looked into it.
52:41
It's like this constant endorphin dump.
52:44
It's like the, because the, the young child doesn't know how to
52:47
handle that. So it's like constant, just
52:49
constant endorphins, endorphins, endorphins, then you stop and
52:52
then they, they start with their monsters.
52:55
It's like, so I wish they could do something about it.
52:58
I don't know. How do you, how can you limit
53:01
time on it? It's like, I don't know, that's
53:05
beyond me. I write songs.
53:07
I might have to write a song about it.
53:09
There you go. They probably probably do really
53:11
well too. Is there something I haven't
53:14
asked you about yet that you want to talk about?
53:19
I appreciate you giving me the opportunity to get on here and
53:22
at least talk and share a little bit of my music.
53:25
Absolutely. I hope my music can.
53:30
There's somebody, somebody out there can find something in it
53:33
that maybe makes a difference in their life, maybe get them to
53:40
tell their story to their loved ones, whatever it's like.
53:46
That's all that's that's about all I had because it's all I do.
53:50
I like to write music, I like to sing.
53:54
I like, I enjoy people I like to talk to.
54:00
I don't know. That's that's probably about it,
54:04
about as real as you get. Well, you know, there are
54:08
several, several you named one of them that are looking at
54:13
programs that are looking for people to either help write
54:17
songs or to like, help veterans write their own song like you
54:21
were talking about. And engaging with those memories
54:24
and really putting a story together for family members
54:27
really, because most, most veterans that have been through
54:30
some things really don't talk too much about it because
54:33
because they're, you know, they don't want to worry their family
54:36
or maybe it's too hard or too painful, or it brings back too
54:39
many memories and they just don't want to go there.
54:42
But there's several programs that do help you write songs and
54:46
do help you put it on to paper. And Operation Song is one of
54:49
them. I think you'd be a great fit for
54:51
that program to really help other veterans maybe write songs
54:54
about their stories because you're really good about telling
54:57
your own stories and writing, you know, about different
55:00
events. So I think you'd be a good fit
55:01
for that. Yeah, you get to send me some
55:05
information about it after this and then we'll talk.
55:08
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, they're out of in the
55:11
Nashville area is where they're at.
55:14
But yeah, it's called Operation Song.
55:15
And, and they, I had one of the country artists help me write a
55:20
song. And so he wrote a song for me
55:24
and it, he wrote it in an afternoon when I think we met
55:26
once and he wrote it in the afternoon.
55:29
I'm like, I don't know how people do that.
55:31
I wish I had that talent because I certainly do not.
55:34
But he was able to. He said, well, well, tell me a
55:36
little bit about where you're from.
55:38
And, and, you know, just give me some bits and pieces.
55:40
And so from those little bits and pieces, he put together a
55:43
song for me. And I was like, good grief, like
55:45
how in the world did somebody just do that?
55:48
We just had a, you know, an hour long conversation and there's
55:51
already this song and he's already put chords to it and
55:53
everything. And I'm like, that is amazing.
55:57
Yeah, some people have that gift, I guess.
56:00
And and use that. That other that other using AI.
56:05
Well, you know, that's that's the thing.
56:07
You know, AI has, it has its benefits and then it's also its
56:12
downside, you know, because like if everyone's creating with AI,
56:17
you know, AI is writing the songs and singing the songs.
56:20
In some cases, it's like, who does this song belong to?
56:24
Does it belong to the voice behind that song or, or who you
56:27
know? It's it's kind.
56:29
Of yeah in AI you can't copyright it so.
56:33
Wow. I go through it all the time.
56:35
They, they give me grief at the Copyright office.
56:37
I, they know that's me saying that's me playing guitar.
56:41
They they call me. Yeah, really.
56:44
Well, you know, there is a lot of AI music though, and, and
56:47
sometimes it's hard to tell if it is or not.
56:51
Sometimes it's easy. I mean, I think, you know, I
56:54
think anybody that's really versed in music would be able to
56:57
tell AI versus somebody that's really playing the music and
57:01
really putting putting those things together.
57:03
But but for some that aren't as well versed in that, I mean, you
57:08
know, we can't necessarily tell. Is there a way that you can tell
57:12
whether it's AI? Oh yeah, they got, they got
57:16
programs they can run it through now and they can tell.
57:19
And what's bad is because I use AI mastering to go master it to
57:23
make the, the levels and all that.
57:26
Well, that flags it, it flags it right there.
57:27
It's like, so the technology's there.
57:31
They can tell the difference of what, what's in there and what's
57:34
not. And then it then it's up to you
57:36
in the copyright office, because I, I always do the lyrics, music
57:41
performance whenever I send mine in and then afterwards, that's
57:48
when I go mess with it and see what's, what can I do with this?
57:50
You know, because I already own it.
57:52
I can do whatever I want with it.
57:53
So right well. That makes sense.
57:55
Try to put it in a format that people would listen to or to
57:58
make it more appealing, because then you have to know the
58:00
difference of what's a Nashville?
58:02
What does Nashville want? They want to a polished radio
58:09
something right now. It's like vocals start within 10
58:12
seconds. So sometimes you can't, you
58:15
can't do that, you know, because when you're playing it, it's
58:18
hard to because you're going to lead lead into the song.
58:21
But for radio, no, radio is a different story.
58:23
You have to write differently for radio.
58:25
So that's that's things I'm going back to my songs and
58:30
sometimes my my intro is a little too long.
58:33
Length of the song is, is moot. It's just keeping to the lyrics
58:37
now I'm learning that now. So I go got to go back and I, I
58:41
have to rerecord or figure a way to chop.
58:45
So the vocal starts in 10 seconds.
58:48
Once I get that under control, then I think my songwriting will
58:54
improve greatly to for, to make it pitch ready.
58:57
You got to they want a certain thing, they're looking for a
59:02
certain thing. And then The thing is, I don't
59:05
know what artists to pitch to, so that's where I need help.
59:11
Maybe, maybe CD Baby can help you with that.
59:14
They should know they should be able to help walk you to
59:17
different, you know, avenues of of engagement with selling or or
59:22
marketing your music. Actually, when you're when you
59:25
go do a submission, they ask you who do you, who do you think you
59:30
sound like or who? Yeah, like I don't know, it's
59:33
like who do you think sing this or who do you like?
59:38
It's like, I don't know, it's like I need help with that.
59:40
But they won't, they don't provide that information.
59:41
They just, they get it. They they get it out to the
59:46
different platforms and then charge you.
59:48
Like, you know, sometimes it's 9/9/99 with nothing or they do
59:54
this thing called CD Boost where you, they do all this thing
59:58
called Hear me Now where you have one page and you can click
1:00:00
on one page and it's got all the links to like Spotify, Apple,
1:00:05
YouTube, all the places that they market to.
1:00:08
So you don't have to keep emailing your friends or blowing
1:00:10
up your social media all the time saying, Hey, I have a new
1:00:15
song. So you got to go to this.
1:00:17
You can just post one page on your, on your website and then
1:00:20
people can find it. So some things are good, some
1:00:23
things I question. But to me it's all tied into
1:00:26
that algorithm stuff and I'm like, I don't like it.
1:00:29
But yeah, it makes it tough. It ain't going away so.
1:00:32
Right, well, we've got to end the show, but I appreciate you
1:00:35
coming on, David. It's been such a pleasure to
1:00:37
getting to chat with you and getting to hear your music and I
1:00:40
look forward to hearing more and having you back.
1:00:43
Well, I appreciate it. Like I said, it was a a pleasure
1:00:46
getting to come here and share a little bit of my story.
1:00:48
And like I said, I hope my music can connect with with other
1:00:52
veterans out there or anybody. Maybe you can find something in
1:00:55
there. Reach out, shoot out to me.
1:00:57
It's like try you can reach out through, I think YouTube and
1:01:01
then contact me if anybody wants to talk about stuff and or you
1:01:04
can look me up on Facebook. I'm David Lee Brode.
1:01:07
You'll find me. I'm I'm everywhere.
1:01:09
So that. Sounds good.
1:01:11
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