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9 Most Disturbing Crime Stories of 2023 · Murder Files Unsealed

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  Speaker 1: Have you ever like found yourself going down one of
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  Speaker 1: those late night Internet rabbit holes?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. You know, just scrolling through weird news at
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  Speaker 2: two in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Exactly. Where you're just reading these stories and thinking, well,
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  Speaker 1: there's no way people actually do this stuff. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Truth is definitely stranger than fiction sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. So in 2023, there was this 23
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  Speaker 1: year old woman who committed this just incredibly meticulously planned,
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  Speaker 1: gruesome murder.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And she didn't do it for money. She did do
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  Speaker 1: it out of jealousy or, you know, revenge or to
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  Speaker 1: cover up some other crime.
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  Speaker 2: Which are usually the big ones, right?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. When the police finally caught her and asked for
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  Speaker 1: her motive, she looked at them and said she did
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  Speaker 1: it simply because she was curious.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. Just curious. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She just wanted to know what it felt like.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that completely upends our fundamental understanding of human motivation.
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  Speaker 1: It really does.
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  Speaker 2: Because, you know, we are wired to look for patterns.
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  Speaker 2: We want to find a rational cause and effect. Even
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  Speaker 2: a twisted one, just to explain extreme behavior.
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  Speaker 1: Right. We need it to make sense on some level.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. But when the stated motive is mere curiosity, well,
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  Speaker 2: it forces us to look at the environment that actually
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  Speaker 2: cultivated that curiosity.
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  Speaker 1: And that environment is exactly what we are tearing into today. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's unpack this. We're looking at a really fascinating and
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  Speaker 1: honestly deeply unsettling piece of journalism.
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  Speaker 2: It's a tough read for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was published by All That's Interesting back in
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  Speaker 1: late 2023. Written by Austin Harvey. and edited by Kara Johnson.
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  Speaker 1: It's basically a roundup of the most disturbing, bizarre crime
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  Speaker 1: stories of that year.
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  Speaker 2: Right. And we're zeroing in on three specific cases from
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  Speaker 2: that reporting for this deep dive.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. And what we are really going to do is
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  Speaker 1: examine what happens when the media we consume every single day, well,
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  Speaker 1: when it decides to consume us back.
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  Speaker 2: Because when you look at these three cases, and they're
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  Speaker 2: all over the place, right? One in South Korea, one
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  Speaker 2: in Germany, and one in rural Georgia.
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  Speaker 1: Completely different worlds.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. But they aren't just isolated anomalies. They're symptoms. They
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  Speaker 2: represent this very modern, profound collapse of the boundary between
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  Speaker 2: the digital worlds we inhabit and the physical reality we
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  Speaker 2: actually have to walk around in.
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  Speaker 1: That's a really good way to put it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we are looking at individuals who treated the
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  Speaker 2: real world as if it were governed by the rules
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  Speaker 2: of like an Internet forum or an Instagram feed or
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  Speaker 2: just pure unfiltered impulse.
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  Speaker 1: Right. This is all about the breakdown of the barrier
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  Speaker 1: between the screen and the street. And our first case
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  Speaker 1: is probably the most terrifying example of that bleed.
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  Speaker 2: It's chilling.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. We're going to South Korea to the
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  Speaker 1: case of Jung Yoo Jung. And the detail that Austin
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  Speaker 1: Harvey highlights, the one that just makes your blood run cold,
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  Speaker 1: is that she used the Internet as a literal how-to
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  Speaker 1: guide for taking a human life.
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  Speaker 2: What's fascinating here is that it wasn't a sudden snap.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't a crime of passion. It was
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  Speaker 2: a slow, methodical descent. the police investigation revealed that she
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  Speaker 2: was an absolute fanatic for true crime content.
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  Speaker 1: Like, upset?
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  Speaker 2: Completely. She spent countless hours reading articles, watching documentaries, and
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  Speaker 2: literally scouring the internet for the specific logistics of hiding
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  Speaker 2: a body.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she treated murder as an academic subject, something that
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  Speaker 2: she could just master through online research.
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  Speaker 1: She essentially built a curriculum for herself.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: But here is where it stops being, you know, theoretical
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  Speaker 1: and becomes actively predatory. She doesn't just read about it.
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  Speaker 1: She uses the digital infrastructure of everyday life to hunt.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the way she found her victim is just awful.
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  Speaker 1: It is. She logs onto an app that's designed to
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  Speaker 1: connect parents with tutors. And she poses as a mother
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  Speaker 1: looking for an English teacher for her middle school child.
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  Speaker 2: So she's fabricating this entirely fake persona.
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  Speaker 1: Right. And she finds her target, a woman whose name
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  Speaker 1: hasn't been released, but just a completely innocent person trying
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  Speaker 1: to make a living.
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  Speaker 2: Just doing her job.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. And then Jung does something that requires a terrifying
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  Speaker 1: level of psychological compartmentalization. She buys a schoolgirl uniform online.
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  Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: Dresses up as a child, goes to this woman's house,
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  Speaker 1: and stabs her to death.
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  Speaker 2: The masquerade is the crucial element here. She created a
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  Speaker 2: completely fictional digital need to exploit the very real, very
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  Speaker 2: human empathy of her victim.
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  Speaker 1: Because tutors inherently want to help people.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. They open their doors to strangers based on trust
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  Speaker 2: that's established through a screen. And Jung just weaponized that
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  Speaker 2: digital trust.
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  Speaker 1: But I have to stop you there and push back
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  Speaker 1: on this a bit. Because millions upon millions of people
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  Speaker 1: consume true crime content. I mean, it is a massive industry.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, huge. Absolutely massive.
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  Speaker 1: People fall asleep listening to podcasts about serial killers. They
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  Speaker 1: binge watch documentaries on their weekends.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And the vast, vast majority of those people do not
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  Speaker 1: buy schoolgirl uniforms and murder their tutors.
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  Speaker 2: Thankfully, no. Right.
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  Speaker 1: So what is the actual mechanism here? How does a
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  Speaker 1: brain go from treating this as entertainment to using it
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  Speaker 1: as an instruction manual? Well, because if the content itself
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  Speaker 1: were the virus... We'd have a global epidemic of copycat killers, right?
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  Speaker 2: That is the exact friction point we need to analyze.
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  Speaker 2: The variable isn't the true crime content itself. It is
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  Speaker 2: the psychological architecture of the individual consuming it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so it's about the person, not the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. You have to look at how true crime media
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  Speaker 2: structurally operates. By its very nature, it intellectualizes violence.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: It takes the most chaotic, traumatic moment of a person's life,
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  Speaker 2: and repackages it into a neat three-act narrative structure. You know,
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  Speaker 2: a puzzle with clues, motives, and a nice, neat resolution.
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  Speaker 1: Right, it sanitizes the horror so we can digest it.
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  Speaker 1: Like a TV show.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. It creates what you might call a psychological callus.
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  Speaker 1: A callus, like on your hands.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. For a neurotypical person, that callus allows them
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  Speaker 2: to engage with dark subjects safely. It satisfies a natural
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  Speaker 2: human curiosity about danger without actually experiencing it.
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  Speaker 1: Like wanting to know where the edge of the cliff is,
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  Speaker 1: but not jumping off?
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  Speaker 2: Precisely. It's an evolutionary survival mechanism. We want to know
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  Speaker 2: how the tiger hunts so we can avoid the tiger.
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  Speaker 1: That makes total sense.
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  Speaker 2: But if a person has a pre-existing severe psychological detachment,
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  Speaker 2: and it's worth noting the authorities actively tested Young for psychopathy,
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  Speaker 2: that continuous obsessive exposure does something else.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't just satisfy the curiosity.
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  Speaker 2: No, it normalizes the abnormal. It amplifies the clinical mechanics
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  Speaker 2: of the act. while completely muting any latent empathy.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. So she starts viewing other people not as human
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  Speaker 1: beings with families and internal lives, but, like, as NPCs
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  Speaker 1: in a video game?
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  Speaker 2: Pretty much.
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  Speaker 1: Non-playable characters whose only purpose is to facilitate her experience.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, the hyperconsumption builds this false, grandiose sense of confidence.
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  Speaker 2: She believed that because she had consumed the data, she
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  Speaker 2: possessed the reality. It's the illusion of expertise.
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  Speaker 1: Which brings us to the aftermath. where that illusion shatters
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  Speaker 1: in the most spectacular, almost absurd way.
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  Speaker 2: Because reality is very different from an internet forum.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. The internet is great at teaching you the clinical steps.
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  Speaker 1: It tells you, okay, you need to destroy DNA, so
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  Speaker 1: go buy bleach. You need to transport the remains, so
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  Speaker 1: get heavy-duty trash bags.
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  Speaker 2: And she does this.
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  Speaker 1: She does. After the initial attack, she calmly leaves the house,
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  Speaker 1: goes to a nearby store, buys the supplies, and returns
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  Speaker 1: to dismember the victim.
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  Speaker 2: That level of cold calculation is terrifying.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. But then she encounters a problem that
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  Speaker 1: the Internet couldn't solve for her. Gravity in human perception.
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  Speaker 2: This is where the sterile digital plan violently collides with
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  Speaker 2: the messy analog world.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: She packs the remains into a suitcase. And her online
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  Speaker 2: research likely told her that a wooded remote area is
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  Speaker 2: the optimal location for disposal.
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  Speaker 1: Which logically on paper is correct.
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  Speaker 2: Right. But what does she do next? She hires a
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  Speaker 2: public taxi.
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  Speaker 1: A taxi. I read that part of the article and
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  Speaker 1: had to read it three times.
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  Speaker 2: It's baffling.
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  Speaker 1: You have a suitcase containing a dismembered human being, and
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  Speaker 1: you call a cab. It's almost impossible to process that
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  Speaker 1: level of cognitive dissonance.
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  Speaker 2: It perfectly illustrates the limits of theoretical knowledge. A true
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  Speaker 2: crime forum cannot prepare you for the physical sensory reality
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  Speaker 2: of murder.
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  Speaker 1: No, definitely not.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't prepare you for the sheer weight of a
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  Speaker 2: suitcase filled with the human body. It doesn't prepare you
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  Speaker 2: for the metallic smell of blood or the adrenaline tremors
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  Speaker 2: in your hands. Or the wild, panicked look in your
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  Speaker 2: own eyes.
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  Speaker 1: And crucially, it doesn't account for the fact that a
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  Speaker 1: taxi driver is not an algorithm. He is an observant
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  Speaker 1: human being.
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  Speaker 2: Right, he's looking in his rearview mirror.
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  Speaker 1: He sees a terrified, blood-stained woman struggling to heave an
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  Speaker 1: impossibly heavy, leaking suitcase into his trunk.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. The digital perfection of her plan instantly crumbled the
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  Speaker 2: moment it required interaction with the physical world.
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  Speaker 1: The real world doesn't play by internet rules.
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  Speaker 2: Right. The driver found her incredibly suspicious, he alerted the authorities,
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  Speaker 2: and that was the unraveling.
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  Speaker 1: That fast.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. The police found the bloodied clothes, they recovered the remains,
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  Speaker 2: and she confessed. Her downfall wasn't a complex forensic slip-up.
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  Speaker 2: It was her absolute inability to project the realities of
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  Speaker 2: her actions outside of her own head.
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  Speaker 1: It really makes you look at the whole true crime
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  Speaker 1: phenomenon with a slightly different lens. Well, not as a
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  Speaker 1: moral panic, but as a question of internal boundaries. Like,
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  Speaker 1: where is the line between a healthy, natural, morbid curiosity...
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  Speaker 1: and an obsession that starts to quietly warp your perception
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  Speaker 1: of cause and effect?
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  Speaker 2: That's a great question.
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  Speaker 1: Jung Yoo Jung tried to manifest a digital obsession into
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  Speaker 1: physical reality, and it ended in a devastating loss of
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  Speaker 1: innocent life.
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  Speaker 2: And that concept manifesting a digital illusion into physical reality
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  Speaker 2: is the perfect bridge to our next case.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Because while Young used the internet to learn the mechanics
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  Speaker 2: of a crime, the perpetrator in our second story used
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  Speaker 2: the internet for something arguably even more disturbing.
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  Speaker 1: If that's even possible.
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  Speaker 2: She used it to shop for her own replacement. She
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  Speaker 2: weaponized the very concept of digital identity.
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  Speaker 1: This takes us from South Korea to Germany, to a
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  Speaker 1: case from February 2023 that the German press dubbed the
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  Speaker 1: Doppelganger murder.
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  Speaker 2: Such a wild case.
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  Speaker 1: And if the first story was about the dangers of
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  Speaker 1: media obsession, this one is an absolute masterclass in the
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  Speaker 1: lethal extremes of online vanity.
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  Speaker 2: Vanity is definitely the word for it.
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  Speaker 1: It revolves around a German-Iraqi Instagram beauty influencer identified in
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  Speaker 1: the reports as Sharaban K. She is accused of murdering
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  Speaker 1: another beauty blogger, Khadija O.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Here's where it gets really interesting. The motive is what
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  Speaker 1: makes this feel like a dystopian sci-fi script.
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  Speaker 2: It really does sound like a movie.
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  Speaker 1: Sharaban didn't kill Khadija for her money or out of
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  Speaker 1: jealousy over a partnership or anything normal like that. She
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  Speaker 1: killed her simply because Khadija looked like her.
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  Speaker 2: If we connect this to the bigger picture, the stated motive,
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  Speaker 2: according to investigators, is that Sharaban wanted to front her
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  Speaker 2: own death to escape, quote, troubles at home.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have the granular details of those domestic issues,
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  Speaker 2: but the solution she engineered is staggering in its narcissism.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, to think that's your best option.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. She decided the most efficient way to disappear was
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  Speaker 2: to find a physical stand-in, murder them, and leave the
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  Speaker 2: body to be discovered. She was banking on the assumption
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  Speaker 2: that everyone, her family, the public, the police, would just
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  Speaker 2: assume the corpse was her.
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  Speaker 1: It completely reframes how you think about scrolling on your phone.
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  Speaker 2: It really does.
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  Speaker 1: Think about the physical mechanics of what Sharaban was doing.
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  Speaker 1: She is sitting somewhere, just scrolling through Instagram. But she's
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  Speaker 1: not looking at faces as people.
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  Speaker 2: No, not at all.
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  Speaker 1: She is treating the platform like a catalog of human commodities.
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  Speaker 1: She is swiping through thousands of women. Analyzing their bone structure,
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  Speaker 1: their hair color, their skin tone, just looking for a
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  Speaker 1: physical match for her own staged death.
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  Speaker 2: It is the absolute darkest extreme of influencer culture, where
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  Speaker 2: human beings are reduced entirely to their aesthetics.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just completely flattened into an image.
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  Speaker 2: It is the ultimate objectification, facilitated by a user interface
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  Speaker 2: that trains us to do exactly that. Instagram, by its design,
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  Speaker 2: often flattens a complex human life into a two-dimensional, consumable image.
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  Speaker 1: Right, you just swipe past.
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  Speaker 2: We scroll past a face, double-tap it, and move on
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  Speaker 2: in a fraction of a second. Charbon internalized that flattening
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  Speaker 2: process to a lethal degree.
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  Speaker 1: She really did.
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  Speaker 2: She found Khadija, saw the aesthetic overlap, and decided that
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  Speaker 2: Khadija's entire existence was worth sacrificing to preserve her own narrative.
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  Speaker 1: It reminds me of the Ship of Theseus paradox.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good comparison.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if you replace every single plank of wood
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  Speaker 1: on a ship, is it still the same ship? Charabon
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  Speaker 1: seemed to think that if she just replaced the physical body,
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  Speaker 1: the planks of wood, she could seamlessly transfer her identity
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  Speaker 1: and walk away clean.
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  Speaker 2: She was systematically hunting for a doppelganger.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. The article notes she had messaged as many as
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  Speaker 1: five other women trying to lure them into a meeting...
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  Speaker 1: before finally succeeding with Khadija.
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  Speaker 2: Five other women. It highlights a cold, algorithmic approach to hunting.
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  Speaker 1: Like she was running a marketing campaign.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. She was A-B testing her murder plot, sending out
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  Speaker 2: lures based purely on profile pictures, just waiting for someone
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  Speaker 2: to engage.
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  Speaker 1: That is terrifying.
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  Speaker 2: And when she finally trapped Khadija, allegedly with the help
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  Speaker 2: of an accomplice named Shakir K, the resulting violence was
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  Speaker 2: horrifyingly specific.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the details of the crime scene are brutal.
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  Speaker 2: The police found Khadija's body inside Sharaban's Mercedes. And she
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  Speaker 2: hadn't just been killed. She had been stabbed more than
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  Speaker 2: 50 times.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: Specifically focused on her face to the point where she
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  Speaker 2: was completely unrecognizable.
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  Speaker 1: 50 times. That isn't just an assassination. That is an obliteration.
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  Speaker 2: It's overkill.
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  Speaker 1: Why that level of extreme overkill? Was it just a
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  Speaker 1: frenzy or was there a functional twisted logic to it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, when forensic psychologists look at a crime scene with
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  Speaker 2: that level of overkill, the injuries themselves tell a story
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  Speaker 2: about the motive.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: This wasn't just about ending Khadija's life. It was about
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  Speaker 2: destroying her identity to force the digital narrative onto physical reality.
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  Speaker 1: So the face had to go.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Sharaban needed the body to be unidentifiable as Khadija,
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  Speaker 2: but she needed the context, the car, the clothing, the
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  Speaker 2: general physical build to scream Sharaban. Wow. It's an act
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  Speaker 2: of aggressive authoring. She had to violently erase the original
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  Speaker 2: manuscript of Khadija's face so she could publish her own
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  Speaker 2: identity over it.
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  Speaker 1: It's the ultimate paradox, isn't it? She's leveraging a platform
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  Speaker 1: built entirely on hyper-visibility to completely erase herself. Yes. She
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  Speaker 1: actually believes she could use the mechanisms of internet fame
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  Speaker 1: to vanish into thin air.
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  Speaker 2: It requires a breathtaking level of narcissism. You have to
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  Speaker 2: believe two contradictory things simultaneously.
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  Speaker 1: What are those?
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  Speaker 2: First, that you are so important that faking your own
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  Speaker 2: death is the only logical solution to your problems.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And second, that you are so brilliant that you can
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  Speaker 2: outwit modern forensics, DNA analysis, dental records, and law enforcement
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  Speaker 2: simply by swapping your body with someone who shares your
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  Speaker 2: aesthetic filter.
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  Speaker 1: It's delusional.
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  Speaker 2: Totally. She treated physical reality like an app where she
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  Speaker 2: could just swipe to delete her existence and start a
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  Speaker 2: new account.
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  Speaker 1: It really makes you pause and reconsider the vulnerability of
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  Speaker 1: a curated digital footprint.
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  Speaker 2: It does.
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  Speaker 1: We are conditioned to worry about financial identity theft. You know,
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  Speaker 1: someone stealing our credit card numbers, guessing our passwords, or
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  Speaker 1: taking out a mortgage in our name.
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  Speaker 2: The standard stuff. Right.
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  Speaker 1: But this completely redefines identity theft. Khadija was murdered simply
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  Speaker 1: because she existed in a public digital space and had
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  Speaker 1: the tragic misfortune of looking like the wrong person.
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  Speaker 2: Her highly curated public face made her a target for
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  Speaker 2: literal physical replacement.
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  Speaker 1: It's so sad.
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  Speaker 2: It exposes the profound vulnerability of hyper exposure. When we
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: broadcast our images into the digital ether, we completely lose
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: control over how they are categorized and utilized.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: We really do.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: For most people, the worst outcome is an unflattering screenshot or,
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: you know, a clone scam account.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: But in this extreme outlier of a case, The boundary
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: between the digital image and the physical person was violently
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: collapsed by someone with malevolent intent.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, we have spent a lot of time in some
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: incredibly dark calculated psychological spaces.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Very dark.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: We have Jung Yoo Jung studying murder like it's a
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: college syllabus and Xiaoban Kei hunting for a body double
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: through social media algorithms. Both are driven by this modern
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: digital obsession.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: But for our third and final story, we need to
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: completely shift gears.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: I think we need to shift.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Because while the first two crimes show us the dangers
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: of living too deeply in a curated mental fantasy, our
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: last story shows us the sheer chaotic absurdity of living
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: entirely in the physical moment.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, we are stepping out of the dark corners of
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: the Internet and walking right into the bright, hot sun
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: of Coweta County, Georgia.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Good old Georgia.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: To examine a crime of pure, unadulterated impulse.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: We are talking about Robin Swanger. In August of 2023,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: he made national headlines for an arrest that sounds like
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: a Mad Libs gone wrong.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: It's absurd.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: He wasn't arrested for a cybercrime. He wasn't arrested for
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: a sophisticated heist. Robin Swanger was arrested for stealing his
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: neighbor's front porch.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: A literal porch.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: And I want to be perfectly clear here. He didn't
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: steal a package off the porch. He didn't steal the
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: rocking chairs. He stole the actual structural porch.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: The sheer physical mechanics of this crime are what elevate
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: it to the level of the absurd.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: It's mind-boggling.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: We have to understand the scale of what we are
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: talking about. According to investigator Chris Stapler of the Coweta
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: County Sheriff's Office, this was a full-size, 8 by 10
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: foot wooden structure.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: 8 by 10.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: He noted it was very well constructed and valued at
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: around $ 3, 000. It was the entrance and exit platform for
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: a home.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: It's an 8 by 10 structure. The phrase porch pirate
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: has been in our lexicon for years, but it usually
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: means a guy jogging up your driveway to grab an
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Amazon box of paper towels before peeling off in a
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Honda Civic.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Robin Swanger is a literal porch pirate. He took the
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: whole ship.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: He really did.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: The amount of effort required to move something like that
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: is staggering. You don't just slip an 8x10 deck into
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: your backpack.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Definitely not.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: You need leverage. You probably need power tools to detach
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: it if it was anchored. You absolutely need a flatbed
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: truck or a heavy-duty trailer.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: It's a whole operation.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: It requires time. It requires making a lot of noise.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: And it requires a brazen disregard for the laws of physics,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: let alone the laws of society.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: And what makes it even more fascinating is the environmental context.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, right. The property.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: The source material points out that the actual house the
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: porch belonged to had already been removed from the property.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: So there's no house.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Exactly. You have a vacant lot, and sitting right in
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: the middle of it is this high-quality $ 3, 000 wooden porch
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: leading to absolutely nowhere.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Just a porch in a field.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: But, however, the property owner made it explicitly clear that
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: the lot was marked with multiple highly visible no trespassing signs.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: So Robin Swanger is walking or driving by. He sees
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: the no trespassing signs. He sees a disembodied porch sitting
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: in a field, and his brain just skips every logical beat.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Completely bypasses logic.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: And goes straight to, yep, that belongs to me now.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I will figure out the logistics immediately.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: It's the audacity.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: It is. But it's not just a funny visual. It
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: actually tells us something profound about how his brain interacts
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: with his environment, doesn't it?
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: This raises an important question, right? It does. In Freudian terms,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Robin Swanger is operating almost entirely on the level of
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: the id.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: The id.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: The primitive, impulsive part of the psyche that demands immediate gratification.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: There is a complete absence of the superpowers which is
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: the part of our mind that regulates behavior based on
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: social norms, rules, and long-term consequences.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: In our first two cases, we saw hyper-focused, goal-oriented behavior.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: The goals were twisted, but the execution was planned.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Very planned.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Swinger represents a complete collapse of cause-and-effect thinking. He sees
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: an object of value... The environment presents an opportunity, and
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: he simply acts, completely bypassing the cognitive checkpoint of, is
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: this a good idea?
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: And we see that absolute lack of impulse control played
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: out perfectly in how he was actually caught.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, the arrest is the best part.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Because the police didn't catch him driving down the highway
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: with a porch strapped to his roof. They caught him
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: a few days later, entirely by accident.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: They were called to his residence for domestic dispute. The
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: officers pull up. And they find Robin Swanger in the
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: middle of a screaming match with his wife, and he
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: is actively throwing rocks at his own house.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: At his own house.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: When the police attempt to calm the situation and apprehend him,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: he tries to run away on foot, which, predictably, fails.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Unsuccessful getaway.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He ended up charged with one count of felony
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: theft for the porch and two counts of domestic violence.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: The juxtaposition of those two events is incredibly revealing for
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: our analysis. On one day... He orchestrates the heavy logistical
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: lifting required to steal an architectural structure from a vacant lot,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: ignoring all legal boundaries.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: A few days later, in a fit of emotional dysregulation,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: he is actively trying to destroy the very structure that
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: shelters him by throwing rocks at it.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: It makes no sense.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: It paints a psychological profile of an individual completely adrift
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: in the immediate moment, reacting violently and impulsively to whatever
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: stimulus is directly in front of him.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: It is chaos in its purest form.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Absolute chaos.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: If Jung Yoo Jung and Charuban K are terrifying because
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: they show us what happens when someone plans too much,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Robin Swanger is unsettling because he reminds us of what
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: happens when someone doesn't plan at all.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: That's a great contrast.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: And honestly, it's a very grounding palate cleanser for this
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: deep dive.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: We needed it.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: We spend so much time on this show and in
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: culture generally obsessing over complex, invisible threats. We worry about
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: AI deep fakes, sophisticated phishing scams, and criminal masterminds playing
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: 4D chess with our identities.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Right, the high-tech stuff.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: But Robin Swanger is a reminder that the spectrum of
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: human behavior is incredibly wide. And sometimes the threat isn't
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: a digital ghost in the machine. Sometimes the threat is
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: just a guy down the street who backs up a
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: trailer and drives away with your front steps.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: It forces us to maintain a dual awareness. We have
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: to be hyper-vigilant about the invisible digital manipulation of our minds,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: but we also can't lose sight of the unpredictable analog
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: reality of the physical world we actually live in.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Which brings us to the core of what we set
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: out to uncover today. So what does this all mean?
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: A lot to process.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: We took these three incredibly bizarre, highly specific outliers from 2023...
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: And we unpacked the mechanisms beneath them.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: We looked at Jung Yoo Jung and how continuous obsessive
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: consumption of true crime media can create a psychological callous.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Dulling empathy.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Turning violence into an intellectual exercise that she tragically
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: tried to test in the real world.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Then we analyzed Sharaban Kay, who weaponized the UI of
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Instagram to commodify human life.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Just treating a person like an object.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: She showed us the lethal logical extreme of influencer culture.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: where a curated identity becomes so paramount that a physical
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: human being is murdered simply for their aesthetic value, treating
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: reality like a swappable filter.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: And finally, we looked at Robin Swinger, the porch pirate
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: of Georgia, who completely eschewed the digital realm for pure,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: unbridled physical impulse.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Reminding us that sometimes chaos doesn't need a Wi-Fi connection.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: It just needs an opportunity.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: While these stories are extreme... I mean, they are the
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: literal headlines of the bazaar they function as magnifying glasses.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: When human impulses like curiosity, vanity, or opportunism are allowed
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: to grow entirely unchecked by empathy or social boundaries, they
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: expose the fragility of the societal contract we all implicitly
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: sign every day.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: And that brings us back to that late night scroll.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, the rabbit hole.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: The media we consume, the images we project, the digital
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: worlds we build for ourselves— They are not contained behind
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: the glass of our screens.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: They bleed out.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: They are actively rewriting our internal wiring. They are shaping
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: how we view our neighbors, how we value our own identities,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: and what we consider to be permissible behavior. The boundary
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: between the screen and the street isn't just porous. In
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: many ways, it has completely evaporated.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: We have to remain incredibly critical of the media diet
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: we feed our brains.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Highly critical.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: And equally critical of how we allow platforms to dictate
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: our self-worth. Because if we don't actively maintain that boundary,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: we risk losing our grip on the physical reality that
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: ultimately sustains us.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Very true.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: It makes you wonder, as you go about the rest
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: of your day, if the entertainment you consume to relax
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: has the potential to fundamentally alter your psychological boundaries, like
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: it did in South Korea.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Or if your photos... Right.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: If the carefully manicured photos you post online can reduce
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: your physical safety to a matter of aesthetic coincidence, like
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: it did in Germany.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: What parts of your modern routine are you blindly trusting?
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Where exactly is the boundary between the media you
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: consume and the reality you walk around in? Are you
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: absolutely certain you know where the digital illusion ends and
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: where you actually begin?
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: A question that requires our constant undivided attention.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Thank you for going down this rabbit hole with us.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Stay curious, but maybe stick to documentaries about nature or
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: baking instead of murder.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Good advice.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Stay safe in both your digital footprint and your physical neighborhood.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: And honestly, it wouldn't hurt to go outside and make
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: sure your front porch is bolted to the foundation. We'll
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: catch you on the next deep dive.