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What The Fuck Is Wrong With America, Part I: The Puritans · Hocus Pocus Lack Of Focus

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  With August Faulty, The Hocus Pocus Lack of Focus, the very
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  uneducational podcast that fills your ears with a neuro divergent
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  soup filled with ingredients such as witchcraft, true crime,
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  paranormal activity, and a whole habit of shy talk.
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  Today we are starting off our series that Ocean has dubbed
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  What the Fuck is Wrong with America?
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  Today's focus is on the totally chill and not weird at all guys.
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  The Puritans who I will be referring to as the pure tans.
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  I'm Brother Justy and for my sins I will be flagellating
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  myself every time I mention ADHD.
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  I'm joining today by the good Reverend Ocean Byrne who will be
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  leading today's sermon and keeping us on the right side of
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  God as we learn about America's beginnings.
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  Good luck with that one greeting sinners, because of course we
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  are joined by someone who would have been burned at the stake
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  for her massive hits, let alone her sailor's mouth.
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  It is the anti puritan, our Hostess with the most chest
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  Nanny Homers. How can you help me with my
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  psalms? And I just, I just think anti
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  Puritan would be a really good drag name as well.
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  Yeah, that's pretty good. I'm making a note we.
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  Bring to the stage anti puritan. I already have my my drag name
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  ready for when I have to go and do it.
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  It's going to happen at some stage.
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  When you inevitably. Have what is it, Gran?
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  You're good thing. Nice.
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  Yeah, it does. Yeah.
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  Thank you. Really.
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  Good. I know trademark copyright and
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  nobody steal that. Goddamnit.
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  Not that anybody listens to this.
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  Brandy good thing is really good if they do like a RuPaul's Drag
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  Race Arden. And it's and it's just a bunch.
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  I was just a bunch of straight dudes being like, I came up with
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  a name and that's as far as I got.
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  To be to be honest. With you no wearing makeup.
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  I've absolutely no intention or I have never had any desire to
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  go and do drag, but when I came up with that and.
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  When you came up with the name. I came up with the name I'm like
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  I need. Yeah, you're like I, I have AI
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  have a whole character I can do you're.
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  Afraid of makeup, though? You couldn't do drag.
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  Uh yeah, I am afraid of makeup, but I will I I would not mind
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  being sedated and then wake up in full drag.
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  Wake up in full drag. Makeup could do it, it's just
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  the texture going on and. Being Yeah, exactly.
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  Yeah, you can, Mr. T me into drag.
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  I ain't getting no dress. I actually had umm, I had a
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  gentleman umm over at the weekend.
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  Oh, definitely not. He couldn't read.
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  He wasn't a gentleman, yeah. No, gentleman.
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  But he's Australian, so yeah, yeah.
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  There's not as many convictions as.
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  He had. Absolutely no such thing as an
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  Australian gentleman. But like I, I literally, I was
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  like, I was that because we were going out for food, umm, the
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  next day and I would start doing my makeup, whatever.
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  And he was just like watching me put my makeup on.
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  He was like, it's like watching shit turned diamonds.
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  I was just like. Nice, that was like a gentleman.
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  What a what a fucking charmer. I know I was like.
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  Jesus fucking Christ. Love that no anyway and.
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  Did you still go for dinner with him?
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  Oh yeah. Of course he did.
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  Yeah. Psalm today, so.
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  Yeah, you're, you're just like I know my value.
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  And well, yeah, whatever. It's fun.
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  Dick's good. It's OK, I'll put up with it for
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  a while. Umm, but I'm like, I'm still
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  like, I have such an avoidant attachment style anyway that
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  it's just like, he'll be gone in a couple of weeks.
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  Sorry. It's fine, don't really care.
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  Getting free food and I'm getting the lay.
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  It's good. It's all good.
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  This podcast seems to be the longest relationship you've had
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  in a while. Yeah.
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  And it's mostly with you, justy. Yeah, well, look, I'm like a gay
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  friend. She tells me about all the other
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  Dicks that she takes. Like I'm just, I'm just her gay
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  friend with dreams of being a drag queen.
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  OK, Chapel Row. And OK, so I have been
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  threatening to do episodes of Better America since my first
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  guest appearance on this show. And the idea that evolved into a
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  series, as Jesse said, is what is wrong with America or
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  threatening. Like we were trying to stop you,
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  yeah. No one's right.
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  No one tried to stop me, you guys.
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  I came up with a dumb idea and you guys do it.
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  You watch, and we were. Yeah, but you were just like,
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  oh, you'll write an episode. Cool.
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  I I have to do very little this week.
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  So yes, absolutely. Because it is.
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  Normally supportive of the What's wrong with America?
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  Because I still my conspiracy theory is that America isn't the
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  real place and it's all been made-up.
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  It's a simulation. There's too much wrong with
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  America. When you look at, you know most
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  of what happens in Florida, umm, like have you ever played the
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  your birthday game of Florida? Oh yeah.
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  Yeah, so if you Google, Google your birthday with the words in.
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  Florida Man. And then the date, Yeah.
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  And the date and oh man, and let me tell you, mine is the best
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  because my birthday. We all do it right now, just on
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  the birthday. Is. 4th of July.
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  Oh nice. So if I go Florida Man 4th of
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  July, it's just like man kills crocodile and or no sorry
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  alligator and himself with, you know, homemade rockets.
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  Love. That remember the the Florida
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  cannibal, remember that was the thing that we all thought like
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  the zombie was actually happening.
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  Like the zombie? Because they, they had a, there
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  was a particular drug that was like making everyone act like
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  cannibals, the bath salts. And it was like, oh, it's making
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  everyone eat everyone. And it's like, no.
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  It's mine. Is Florida man accused of
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  forcing small alligator to drink beer?
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  Nice. It just sounds like an average
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  Sunday outside a football stadium.
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  I would do that like. That's that's definitely
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  something that happens in Jacksonville.
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  Yeah, regularly. Redneck fucker from
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  Jacksonville, you go on. Just see what's yours.
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  It's give me pop ups. Florida man arrested after girl
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  hit with flagpole during street corner pro Trump rally That's
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  American, Yeah. That's America, right?
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  There flagpole love. That love that.
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  So if you have any listeners from Erica as most.
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  Of the world knows. Triggered by all of this talk.
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  We do. We just clarify this at the
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  start. Apparently we have a lot.
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  We're very sorry. We're not sorry.
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  We're not sorry. You saw, like a lot of this is
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  said in good spirits. I like, I will make fun of
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  Americans and I will make fun of the English.
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  I will make fun of the English more than I will make fun of the
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  Americans. And we do have a lot of English
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  listeners. I have lived, I've lived in
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  England for like 11 years now. I have a lot of affection for
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  the English. It's just that the history
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  that's there. Would you look at all the
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  things? Say if I was kidnapped.
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  It's it's just it's ripe to make fun of.
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  Ocean. Ocean will make fun of
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  Americans, eh? Obviously Australians, he's just
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  done. And English people.
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  I will make fun of minorities and ethnics.
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  So yeah, Danny. Danny makes fun of all men.
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  All men I'm I. I do have to say, though, if you
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  are American and then if you're listening to this podcast, you
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  probably share our political views.
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  So I don't think you, yeah, I don't think you guys have
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  anything to worry about. We're not.
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  We're not coming for you. Specifically, umm.
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  So in the interest of balance, we will find an Irish person to
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  make fun of in the next few weeks.
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  Well, Mexico. Trash.
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  No, Erick Burke, we will make fun of Enoch Burke.
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  Fun out a pox. Oh, probably with this is
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  Americans who are listening to us make fun of random Irish
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  people like Enoch Burke will be like, who the fuck is he not?
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  Yeah. Exactly.
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  He's a fucking nobody. Don't waste the Google.
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  Don't, I don't even know who he is really.
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  And I just he, he comes up in my feed all the fucking time and
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  I'm just like I, I don't, I don't know who that man is.
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  He just stands inside the schools from what I can see.
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  I, I don't. It's, it's a whole mess.
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  It's a whole mess. He's just he's just like born
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  into a family that is destined to be victims.
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  That is the and so speaking, Speaking of Puritans.
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  And so as most of the world knows, there are a great many
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  things wrong with the young nation of America.
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  And they felt it appropriate to start with one of the many
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  colonial beginnings that America has suffered.
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  This week's episode, what is wrong with America, the
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  Puritans. So the Puritans first landed in
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  America between 1620 and 1640, landing in what would come to be
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  known as Mass Massachusetts almost said that wrong there,
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  specifically at Plymouth Rock. The most famous of these
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  landings was aboard the ship known as the Mayflower.
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  And yes, there is an actual boulder named Plymouth Rock that
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  is said to be the very spot in which these freaks first stepped
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  to shore the cursed continent of North America.
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  However, said boulder did not receive this honor for another
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  100 years or so because they just thought, oh fucking let's
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  make an actual Plymouth Rock. This event is the founding
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  moment of the state of Massachusetts, and indeed a
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  founding moment for the European colonization of America.
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  These guys formed one of the original 13 colonies.
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  This goes right back to the origin of the settlement of
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  America. Just wanted a boulder though
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  and. I like that boulder.
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  Not as a knife. They.
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  Moved, they moved a lot. So they pointed where it is.
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  So like it's it's funny to say like even like whatever, what is
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  a 400 years ago there were no, it would have been 300 years
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  ago. It was like 100 years after like
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  you were saying like this start like broadcast of that.
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  This is the rock, this is Plymouth Rock.
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  So like it's just fascinating to me that like tourism and like,
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  you know, a shysterism was happening so early, like where
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  they were like. Snake oil seals the rock.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And but before we continue, we
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  need context. Who were the Puritans?
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  What is a Puritan? Where did they come from?
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  Where did they get those little outfits from?
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  Their little kitten heels, kitten heels, their little like
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  starch shirts, they're silly hats, the whole shebang.
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  So my favorite thing about the kitten heels is, umm, it's
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  actually because the streets were filled with that much human
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  excrement that they needed the little heel on the shoe to stay
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  above. So they they're just didn't get.
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  Sinking into shape, that is. Because like in like, yeah, like
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  England at the time, it was just shit, honest.
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  Everywhere if you go to, I don't know if you've been to the the
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  London dungeons. Oh yeah, of course.
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  Or I loved it. I thought it's great.
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  It's really fun. Yeah, it is.
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  And they get the actors are so much.
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  Fun like great. I was dating a Welsh guy at the
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  time when I went to it. And then like the guy, the actor
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  had a fucking field day heckling him when he asked where he was
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  from. And there was a whole like sheep
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  jokes and everything like that. And then they he was like, oh,
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  where are you from? And I was like Ireland and he
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  just skipped me completely. He was like, Nope.
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  When I when I. Was there can't be dealing with
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  your trauma? Yeah, he's.
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  Like, and I was there and there was a scene that was like a
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  courtroom and the judge was like doing like, you know, he was
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  doing crowd interaction work. That was the the one.
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  And he was going from person to person.
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  And then when he, he like looks at me and he's like, he just
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  like squeezed me. He's like, where are you from?
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  And I was like Ireland. And he just like like fucking
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  knee jerk. He's like.
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  Guilty, Guilty very good and. I was just like, that's very
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  good. That's that's historically
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  accurate. I love that.
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  And they like and they love it, the actors love it.
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  But it, it is a whole like the whole theme throughout the
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  entire tour. And if you are in London and you
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  do get a chance to, to do the tour, you absolutely showed.
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  It's a lot of fun. It's really, really good.
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  The theme throughout it is just and there was feces in the
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  streets. And then we move on to this time
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  in this place and and this the King.
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  And there were feces in the streets.
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  And then when this happened and there was a tuberculosis
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  outbreak and we had to go here, here and here and there were
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  feces in the street. How they like at the time
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  they're like referring to Irish people as peasants and stuff
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  like that as like, yeah, Irish people at least we shit and
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  feels like. Yeah, we go to holes in a field.
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  We knew how to dispose of our excrement, we didn't just throw
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  it in our window. Yeah, they literally were just
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  chilling chamber pots out the windows like.
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  Yeah, and that is another. That's a whole other, umm, it's
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  part. Of the pigs, like eh spread
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  through London so badly because it was just like the whole place
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  was just covered in shit. Is it another?
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  Is it it's it's a Monty Python sketch as well that they were
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  doing. And it's it might be life with
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  Brian, because I think they did the same like, but they were
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  making fun of that. No, it wasn't.
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  It was. It was, said, the Holy Grail.
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  Yes, thank you. But like it was like the someone
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  walking through the streets with this big fucking like like bring
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  out your. Dad, bring out your dad.
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  And it was like, it was, it was like that back then, literally.
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  Because. Yeah.
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  Yeah, it was, it was someone's job as well to like scoop up
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  that human shit and use it as fertilizer.
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  Like, so that's what they were doing as well.
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  Like so there was a guy whose job was like in every street was
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  just have a cart like that. Like those bring out your dead
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  carts were probably being used for shit before that.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  And so the answer to all of my questions, as it's so many
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  terrible things throughout history, is the English.
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  Did. You think, did you think that we
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  would do an episode of this show without proving that a terrible
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  thing was English? John Wayne Gacy, who we recently
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  covered as English, a man that has ever existed.
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  Do I need to prove that? How dare you question me?
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  He does have a bang of Protestant often though I will
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  say he. Does.
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  Yeah. Yeah, for sure.
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  He's definitely some weird like president.
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  He's very much so Polish Catholic, but I will let you.
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  We don't claim him. So we cast ourselves back to the
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  1530s England. Puritanism was born out of
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  Protestantism, of course, and it was a bunch of religious
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  hardliners who wanted to purify the Church of England by purging
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  the last remaining traces of Catholicism from it.
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  The English and their gripes with Catholics.
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  Now where have we heard about that?
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  Elsewhere. Don't know.
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  Among their main gripes were priests clothes.
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  They didn't like the vestments. They wanted priests to wear
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  simpler clothing because as we all know, Catholic priests and
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  bishops dressed like pimps. Yep.
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  They didn't like kneeling for communion.
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  They thought that was like a little bit, I don't know, too so
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  be or something. And they didn't like making the
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  sign of the cross on oneself, on your body.
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  This is the literal meaning of Puritan.
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  It's the 16th century. You got to entertain yourself
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  somehow. Yeah, it's it's funny how this
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  this comes about like when like this is obviously you're you're
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  going to get into it like what it all comes down to Henry
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  wanted to kick Henry the eighth wanted to write and believe and
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  she didn't want to be a side piece.
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  So she was like, you need to marry me.
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  So he needed to get his his marriage in the old all this
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  shape. So then so him who was a staunch
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  Catholic, not only astonished Catholic, but was actually
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  headed for the he was going to be going for a priesthood
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  because he was the second brother only for his brother.
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  Eh, his older brother actor died.
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  He would have been like the Archbishop of fucking SO.
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  Whatever the he was the Prince Andrew of his day.
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  Yes, yeah, yeah. Eh, I don't know.
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  I don't know if he was as Nancy, but umm.
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  I mean what? It's a safe.
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  Bet yeah, now that I come to say it, like they're all nonsense,
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  but eh, yeah, like so the fact that so he couldn't get his
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  marriage annulled. So decided to like all this like
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  he couldn't have given a fuck about the Reformation,
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  Lutherism, Calvinism, couldn't give a fuck about any of that.
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  Well, because he needed, he wanted his son, eh, catching up,
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  arrogant, not not doing the job. So like he he wanted to settle
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  in for he wants, he wants to get with Amberlin.
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  He changed his religion, a change to religion of England.
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  Of the whole country. So that he could get his end
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  away with this Amberlin chick, this French bitch.
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  And then he, he, it's, it's just funny how like, what way like
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  America would not be the America that we know now.
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  Ireland would be the Ireland that we know now.
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  England definitely won't be the England that we know now.
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  Had the Pope of the time just annulled his marriage?
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  Yes, yeah. Yeah.
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  So, so all this kind of happens. So like he ends up haven't
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  Edward was a son, but his his son was sick and gay and 15 and
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  he died and eh, so then like it's this is where we we play
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  halfway or what religions in England and it gets really
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  contentious. So like, yeah, after Edward
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  dies, Mary takes over his eldest daughter who's a staunch
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  Catholic. And then once they reform
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  England back to Catholicism, she gets spoken gone and Elizabeth
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  comes in and Elizabeth being a Protestant then brings
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  Protestants and back eh around. And that's this is when we start
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  seeing like Elizabeth being in power is a big deal because
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  first of all, England is at war with the Spanish.
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  Spanish are after been fucking colonies in South America like
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  crazy. Now, North America, there's
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  people over there killing Beavers and fucking and you
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  know, and locals and doing whatever they're doing, you
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  know, skinning and being skinned skin and Beavers are being
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  skinned by eh indigenous Americans and they realize, oh,
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  we need to eh, we need to settle this place.
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  And that's when Elizabeth like that, that would have been in
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  around 15 eighties if I'm, I'm right that she's like, yeah, we
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  need to get people in there to start, eh, to start settling.
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  And it's not that easy to get people to to convince people to
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  come over as a colony to set like, it's easy to get people
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  over if you can say, listen, you if you go over there, there's
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  riches beyond your your wildest dreams.
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  Like, yeah. Like the the allure of the new
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  world. Yes, but people were coming back
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  and being like, OK, the fur trade is kind of being taken
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  over. They hadn't really realized what
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  tobacco was yet and how much that was going to be.
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  Eh, yeah, like, you know that that could make people rich, but
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  they didn't know yet. They certainly didn't know about
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  all the gold yet. But yes, it was like, what I was
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  going to say is it wasn't yielding gold like South America
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  was. Like, yeah, old rushes in
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  America didn't really happen until like, the 1800s.
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  This. Yeah.
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  Yeah. So like that.
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  That would have been. Hundreds.
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  Yeah, in California and stuff like that.
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  So like it's it's funny how this like all this kind of tumble
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  fork of events had to happen before we get to what you're
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  gonna explain that was that the the Puritans, but it's all
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  English politics gets us to where we are and eh.
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  And yes, for some reason, the kind of weird way that
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  Protestantism breaks it like breaks itself.
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  Well, because Catholicism is so old, there's kind of just one
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  Catholicism. So like, so when people broke
• 19:29
  off and made Protestantism, which basically is like just,
• 19:33
  it's like the new cork of Catholicism.
• 19:35
  You know what I mean? Like, let's, let's put new
• 19:36
  ingredients into Christianity, but all these different sects
• 19:41
  start breaking away. Like there's like Orthodox book
• 19:44
  and Presbyterians. There's like all these different
• 19:47
  kind of versions of it, but the Puritans as you're like, as
• 19:50
  you've pointed out there, they're kind of, again, I don't
• 19:52
  want to get too into the weeds on this because you've got a
• 19:55
  whole. No, no, but like this.
• 19:57
  So So what you're talking about is like it feeds into like my
• 19:59
  next point. So the reason that I chose the
• 20:02
  Puritans is because they have several really important
• 20:04
  characteristics to carry on into modern day that like still like
• 20:08
  infect modern Americans. They have exactly like as we
• 20:13
  like JD Vance wears heels, Trump wears heels.
• 20:16
  Like, you know, sorry I. Hate them?
• 20:18
  Tom Chromos wears. He should.
• 20:19
  If they're 57, they're. Called steps.
• 20:22
  Steps their heels for men. Give me a break and so they have
• 20:26
  weaponized religious zealotry and they practically created the
• 20:29
  Holyarden Dow trope they have they all have chips on their
• 20:31
  shoulders. They distrust their fellow man
• 20:34
  and worst of all, and this is the this is the word that like
• 20:37
  you were making this point. Worst of all, they're the
• 20:40
  biggest contrarians to come out of Europe until the 1930s.
• 20:44
  And that's right, I'm comparing them to Nazis as.
• 20:46
  You. Should as you should.
• 20:49
  Wow. But like, the word contrarians
• 20:52
  has just been bouncing around my head for the last week, and it
• 20:55
  is, it is exactly what it is. They're just complete and other
• 20:58
  contrarians. And even when they broke off and
• 21:00
  they got their way and they formed their own religion, there
• 21:02
  was still a bunch of them who were just like, actually, we
• 21:04
  think we can do it better. Yes, yeah.
• 21:05
  Yeah, and then you get all these different sects.
• 21:08
  As you like said, like it's very much like a constant victim
• 21:12
  mentality constant like that these people have always had.
• 21:17
  I I think that the problem with with because like I do not like
• 21:21
  the Catholic Church. Just so we're all clear on this.
• 21:25
  It takes. It takes.
• 21:27
  Wow, this, this is this is the reason why nobody questioned the
• 21:33
  word of God from the Catholic churches, because when you've
• 21:37
  got like the holy polite that the masses, they have to
• 21:41
  understand scripture. True, a priest the Bible yes,
• 21:46
  was in Latin and that was it. So you had priests ex like doing
• 21:51
  sermons in Latin, like your your religion right.
• 21:56
  So we'd sit there where Irish been bet English bet into us at
• 22:02
  the English in like which fucking all these people had to
• 22:05
  get the word of the Lord to them in Latin.
• 22:09
  So it's not it's not an accessible like your own
• 22:13
  religion wasn't as accessible to you because it's been dictated
• 22:15
  to you in a way. Like I can't just grab a label
• 22:19
  and read it now when Calvin and eh Luther, Martin Luther, they
• 22:25
  went everybody should be able to read this.
• 22:28
  So we want the Bible to be translated into all of our
• 22:31
  languages. Yeah, that was outlawed in in
• 22:33
  Britain because the Catholic Church were like no folk and way
• 22:36
  the way it. Takes away the level of control
• 22:39
  we're adding to this third hierarchy.
• 22:41
  We don't want anyone else to interpret it, Yeah.
• 22:43
  Exactly, but they were kind of right because what then happens
• 22:46
  when the eh, some dude smuggles in an English Bible into England
• 22:51
  from Germany, which is weirdest foot, but they translated in
• 22:54
  Germany, brought to to England. And then this is around the time
• 22:58
  as well as the printing press was just eh, like getting
• 23:02
  started. So like they're now mass
• 23:04
  producing copies of books. So when the Bible started
• 23:08
  getting mass produced in in English, you had it.
• 23:12
  Was really subversive so. People were able to sit down and
• 23:14
  read this and interpret it their own way.
• 23:16
  It wasn't just being dictated to them.
• 23:18
  So that's why you get so many different kind of sets of, eh,
• 23:21
  Protestantism, because you've got a bunch of people
• 23:25
  interpreting that one way or the other.
• 23:27
  Now, the Puritans, they sat down and interpreted it in a way that
• 23:31
  was the strictest, strictest and most staunchest way that they
• 23:34
  could possibly do it. And yeah, they were rigid with
• 23:38
  the the rules of what they taught.
• 23:41
  The word of God was that was just the how we got here to
• 23:45
  Puritan. Yeah, I suppose that's just,
• 23:47
  well, that's my kind of understanding of how it would
• 23:49
  have. Oh yeah, absolutely.
• 23:51
  And so the Puritans were one of the main causes of the English
• 23:54
  Civil War through their zealotry.
• 23:56
  So again, context is king, and this story features many English
• 24:00
  kings and Queens, but I have compacted it down just to the
• 24:03
  main players. And a lot of it started with
• 24:05
  King Charles the First. But much like most bad things in
• 24:08
  history involving the English, bad things that happen in
• 24:11
  England can often be attributed to the biggest sack of shit king
• 24:15
  They had King Henry the Eighth. This fucking guy.
• 24:20
  Could do like we're gonna do a multiple parts on what the fuck
• 24:24
  is wrong with America. We could do multiple parts on
• 24:26
  Henry the Eighth because. Oh, we should do an episode in
• 24:29
  Henry. Like.
• 24:30
  Umm, did you know that? So with the line of kings in
• 24:34
  England, there's like, you know, we're just like there's loads of
• 24:36
  Henry's, there's a couple of Charles.
• 24:37
  Yeah, you know, they have to pick their.
• 24:40
  Names. There is one King Stephen.
• 24:45
  Steve. And, and he was, he was known as
• 24:47
  like King Stephen the Coward or something, something like that.
• 24:51
  Yeah, he was shit. Like he was shit Steve the
• 24:53
  Coward. And I anytime I see him
• 24:56
  mentioned, I'm just like King Steady Guy.
• 24:58
  Like, come on. Like having a King Robbie.
• 25:03
  Kid. Yeah, it's like, do you
• 25:04
  remember? It's like the eh the John
• 25:07
  Goodman movie King. Ralph Yeah, yeah.
• 25:08
  Where? It turns out that yeah, yeah.
• 25:10
  Where it turns out he's the the heir to the throne.
• 25:13
  I. I watched it a couple of months
• 25:15
  ago. It is awesome.
• 25:17
  It's great. I love John Goodman.
• 25:18
  Yeah, I love John Goodman. John Goodman in Old Road or ACT.
• 25:22
  I can. I just want to give him that
• 25:24
  one. That's that's his best.
• 25:25
  Oh no, John, if you haven't watched just, I don't.
• 25:27
  Have you watched Righteous Jim Stones?
• 25:30
  Oh yeah, the Righteous Gemstones.
• 25:33
  Just you keep telling me. Yeah.
• 25:34
  Oh, she's finished. I know.
• 25:35
  What if? He's I've just finished the
• 25:37
  whole thing. It's.
• 25:38
  No, I do. I really want to watch because
• 25:39
  like all my favorite people are in it like but I.
• 25:41
  Yeah, so John Goodman is the straight man of the show.
• 25:45
  Yeah, but like, you know, he does do like some ridiculous
• 25:47
  stuff and he has a bit of fun, but he's the straight guy and
• 25:50
  his kids are, yeah, fucking insane.
• 25:53
  I see. Everyone else is insane, yeah,
• 25:56
  but. You have to go through like the
• 25:58
  fact that like, Danny McBride is the second most sane in the
• 26:03
  show. That will tell you everything
• 26:05
  that you need to know. He's so fucking good.
• 26:07
  It's so funny. And then you go like it goes
• 26:09
  like back to the Heritage and how they actually became like
• 26:12
  heavy Christians and stuff and. Yes, yeah, it's.
• 26:14
  Really fucking good. It's such a good show.
• 26:17
  I I just love the accents like they're all like daddy daddy.
• 26:21
  Tell Daddy it's like, yeah, Daddy off that day.
• 26:26
  It's like I'm going to move to California and shave my pussy.
• 26:29
  It's like, how do you want to shave your pussy for so I can
• 26:32
  jump back there today. It's it's the, it's such.
• 26:36
  It's. Just watch it it's.
• 26:39
  And like, you've got like, I am like a like a Walton Goggins
• 26:43
  superfan anyway. Like I've loved him from fucking
• 26:46
  the Sons of Anarchy days when no one knew he was not.
• 26:49
  The she he worked on. Him in the.
• 26:50
  Shield is fantastic, like he's so good in the ship.
• 26:53
  That's that's how he obviously was eh, in with Kurth Sutter to
• 26:57
  get to do Sons of Anarchy. So like he's, Yeah.
• 27:01
  The first thing that he did that he broke in was, umm, fucking
• 27:05
  League of their own. He was, only he was like the
• 27:07
  hotshot baseball player in League of their own.
• 27:09
  He was like 21. For some reason I thought of the
• 27:13
  the. Tom Hanks movie.
• 27:14
  Yeah, he's in that he's. There's no.
• 27:18
  Crying in baseball. But he's like the, the, the
• 27:21
  young hotshot. He's like really young in it.
• 27:23
  And then like obviously then like, I think the next time I
• 27:26
  saw, next thing I saw him in was Sons of Anarchy when he was
• 27:30
  Venus Van Damme, incredible as Venus Van Damme.
• 27:33
  It's like, didn't your daddy ever tell you not to judge a
• 27:35
  book by its penis? Venus Van Damme.
• 27:40
  He has like the tapes and. Everything like and then like
• 27:44
  take from take it like this, like fucking big horny bastard
• 27:49
  character in the show and he's obsessed with her.
• 27:52
  Who are you? Explaining this to them.
• 27:54
  Actually hasn't seen Sons of Anarchy you.
• 27:55
  Haven't seen Sons of Anarchy. No, no, never watched it.
• 27:58
  Well, I don't like Charlie Hunnam.
• 28:00
  Yeah. I, yeah, I really get that.
• 28:02
  I can see that. But umm, yes, well, he's, he's
• 28:05
  so fucking good. And then like he did, eh, he did
• 28:08
  audition for Eastbound and down in the whole Danny McBride
• 28:11
  universe. And then Daniel Bride was like,
• 28:13
  Oh no, not free spreading down, but I have something else in the
• 28:16
  world that I need you for. So we had him for vice
• 28:18
  principals, which I seen, I think I, I.
• 28:21
  Have to put that on your list, yeah?
• 28:23
  Yeah, yeah. Incredible show.
• 28:24
  So fucking funny. And then brought him back for a
• 28:27
  fucking baby Billy. Uncle Baby Billy.
• 28:29
  And the my favorite thing about him is that they all referred to
• 28:34
  him as Uncle Baby Billy. It's not like Uncle Billy or
• 28:38
  it's all Uncle Baby Billy and it's like.
• 28:41
  Uncle Baby Billy. Uncle Baby Billy.
• 28:42
  And then he has his own show, like Uncle Baby.
• 28:44
  It's like Baby Billy's Bible. Baby Billy's Bible.
• 28:46
  Bonkers. He's like, yeah.
• 28:49
  Baby Billy so so the two long didn't read section of this
• 28:54
  section of history is. This is Walton Garden the best.
• 28:59
  Walter Garden should play Henry the eighth the.
• 29:01
  Only thing is like people see Henry the eighth as like a this
• 29:06
  big fat mess. Well, like for most of his life
• 29:09
  he was a tall, very attractive, awesome, athletic man, but he
• 29:14
  got, yeah, perked in a jousting incident.
• 29:17
  Like a lot of eh, you can go back to like, eh, you've seen
• 29:21
  Game of Thrones ocean. Yeah, you you're yeah.
• 29:23
  Like they kind of base King Robert on eh Henry.
• 29:28
  Yeah, when like. On Henry, Yeah.
• 29:29
  So when when he gets fat like and then they do this.
• 29:33
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they do the things like
• 29:34
  you've gotten fast. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:37
  But like, but the thing with Henry is that he got injured in
• 29:42
  a jousting incident, which he shouldn't.
• 29:44
  Like why your king is jousting. But like, we've seen this
• 29:46
  obviously in Game of Thrones as well when he was getting
• 29:48
  trained, eh, he still wanted to be jousting as the king and
• 29:51
  everybody. Still wanted to be that.
• 29:53
  Guy, yeah, but that's what happened.
• 29:55
  He ended up eh the guy him in the face while he had his visor
• 30:01
  up and he took a math he so he fell off his horse, gashed his
• 30:04
  leg like took proper like damage.
• 30:07
  But ever since then, now he was already in the middle, like he
• 30:11
  was already after doing all his eh, swapping religions and eh
• 30:15
  beheading a couple of waves like but his his temperament changed
• 30:19
  completely once he got that head head injury and that's.
• 30:22
  Been so he. Starts getting really fucking
• 30:25
  shitty, like, and his memory starts going and stuff like so
• 30:29
  he's had, there was incidences where because like he wasn't
• 30:33
  able to the gash on his leg was an old wound where he reopened
• 30:36
  it and it never healed and he wasn't able to go up.
• 30:39
  So he went from like having a 36 inch waist to having like a 54
• 30:43
  inch waist. I think they said that's yeah.
• 30:46
  So like then he he went from being this really athletic man
• 30:50
  who was still like riding in tournaments and stuff like that
• 30:53
  in his yeah, and then to having his arse wiped because he was
• 30:56
  after getting so far. Basically being like he was
• 30:59
  basically disabled. He actually had umm, there was a
• 31:01
  title for them but they I think they were called like Lords of
• 31:04
  the stool. Royal Wipers.
• 31:06
  Yeah, there were people who were like, were employed in a party.
• 31:09
  This was like a big fucking job to be employed as like a Lord of
• 31:14
  the stool, which is basically your job, was to just help him
• 31:17
  shit wipers Iris. Umm, because he was that big
• 31:20
  that he couldn't, he couldn't do it himself.
• 31:23
  He couldn't like literally just wipe properly.
• 31:25
  Just the absolute worst, yeah. I was so Lord of the Steeler was
• 31:29
  pages. It was something one like
• 31:31
  fucking thing. Probably Lord.
• 31:32
  Yeah, but it was basically like a like if you were in Catholic
• 31:36
  Ireland and your your mother was like, oh, you know, you worked
• 31:38
  for the church. Fucking delighted.
• 31:39
  It'd be like, it would be that level of like your family was
• 31:43
  better than everyone else because your son wiped.
• 31:45
  The arse. Yeah, wiped the yeah, basically.
• 31:48
  And so to to really, really summarize and reduce a large
• 31:53
  section of history, it is Henry couldn't Sarah Miller, so he
• 31:57
  murdered some wives and he had the bright idea to create a type
• 31:59
  of Protestantism called the Church of England.
• 32:02
  And the English Civil War was a war fought between various
• 32:05
  factions of English Puritans. Henry is the most famous English
• 32:08
  king had six wives murdered two of them via beheading.
• 32:11
  That's a good shit. Yeah, yeah.
• 32:13
  I mean, yeah. And there's a a music.
• 32:15
  That comes up like so much history.
• 32:18
  Pretty much. But actually you've, you've
• 32:20
  probably, you're probably aware of it because you like your
• 32:22
  musicals. But there is one called, I think
• 32:23
  it's called 6, yes, 6. And it's, it's basically got all
• 32:27
  the wives of of Henry the eighth.
• 32:30
  Yeah, Fantastic. Really, really good.
• 32:33
  Very funny. And it's it's really, it's
• 32:36
  really good. But yeah, there's like, there's
• 32:38
  so much shit that this man did that like baffled me because
• 32:42
  it's like I get power is like a whole thing, but there was
• 32:46
  nothing attractive about this man.
• 32:47
  There never was at any fucking point.
• 32:50
  Like, well, not like when he was when he was young, like, you
• 32:52
  know, he was that kind of like big, burly, beastly man, like,
• 32:55
  you know, somebody. No, he wasn't the big.
• 32:59
  Little bitch. He was he was a big athletic man
• 33:01
  until, until he got a big. Athletic like he was a big like
• 33:04
  he was a big, like, masculine. The kind of guy you know you
• 33:06
  would book back in the the fucking 1500s.
• 33:09
  And that's genuine. Genuinely, it is because he was,
• 33:13
  he was a big, tall, mostly guy who was good at the sport at the
• 33:16
  time. And you would have been like, Oh
• 33:20
  yes, Sir, I will be your Lord. You're fucking Duchess of the
• 33:24
  Dookie or whatever the fuck it is that you're you, probably.
• 33:26
  Would have come up with some weird nickname for like when you
• 33:29
  go to watch the jousts, like the way women call ice hockey the
• 33:33
  the boy aquarium. Oh yeah, I hate that.
• 33:35
  Like, you would have come up with some.
• 33:37
  I think it's really fun. That's.
• 33:39
  Considering, you know, there's worse things that men talk about
• 33:42
  women's sports. So a boy aquarium is actually
• 33:44
  like. See that article in the
• 33:46
  Financial Times, though, about hockey?
• 33:48
  No. Yeah.
• 33:50
  So she, she went to like a hockey game, one of the, I think
• 33:53
  it was like a Nottingham Panthers game, basically just to
• 33:56
  be like. And I could tell that he wanted
• 33:58
  me. He was staring at me from behind
• 33:59
  the glass. She was talking about like Mitch
• 34:01
  Fossier, who was like the nicest man in the world.
• 34:04
  And then it was just basically like, this is what the obsession
• 34:07
  is with like hockey players. And like any pretty girl can go
• 34:10
  and push themselves up against the glass and then they want to
• 34:12
  fuck them. She was just basically like
• 34:14
  saying she's just. Being an asshole about it.
• 34:16
  Being like oh the only reason that it's popular is because of
• 34:19
  these novels like heated rivalry and Icebreaker and blah blah.
• 34:22
  That's cool. Like if they've made a sport,
• 34:24
  but. Women have been going good
• 34:26
  hockey for fucking forever. And then like, it's just like,
• 34:29
  it's this whole thing that comes out and it's just like, Oh yeah,
• 34:31
  it's popular now because of this, this and this.
• 34:33
  Whereas like someone who clearly has never been to a hockey game
• 34:35
  before, it goes. OK, that's like maybe like,
• 34:38
  like, no, you're basically just, you really go to wrestling shows
• 34:40
  now because no, no. No popular.
• 34:42
  I'm just basically saying like she thinks it's a it's a point
• 34:46
  that like women who have been going for fucking ever have only
• 34:49
  just started going. Like she doesn't know that it
• 34:51
  has been an all fucking everybody goes to hockey games
• 34:55
  with so much fun. And it's just the fact that like
• 34:57
  she's going to prove a point that it's because of these
• 34:59
  books. It's like, well, no, you were
• 35:00
  never here before, so you don't know that these people.
• 35:03
  Always. Went like.
• 35:04
  If the if the books help the popularity, that's a good thing
• 35:07
  because like ice hockey in in like the UK and Ireland and
• 35:11
  Europe is like a DT or sport. And if a couple of books in ATV
• 35:16
  show have created more fans, that's fucking great.
• 35:19
  Like I. Would know though opening up so
• 35:22
  there's a talk of like a Dublin EIHL team which is which is.
• 35:25
  You know, I would see my local team play recently and it was
• 35:28
  the first sold out match. Them and like I think the
• 35:32
  atmosphere of a sold out hockey game is so much fun.
• 35:34
  It's great. It's a great night.
• 35:35
  Out the club has the club has a women's team and the women's
• 35:39
  games are setting new records for attendance like this is
• 35:42
  fantastic. You've never been to 1.
• 35:44
  Like it's even. Even if you're not into the
• 35:46
  sport, it's a good night out. It's a lot of fun to go have a
• 35:49
  few beers. Beers and hot dogs, baby.
• 35:52
  Just fucking watch a few chaps dig each other's head in on the
• 35:56
  ice. Just watch a very graceful sport
• 35:59
  played by men who can't read. Yeah, that.
• 36:03
  Is that? Is true.
• 36:04
  I definitely want to check one out one of these one of these
• 36:07
  days. Dude, if you come over and
• 36:09
  visit. Speaking Speaking of Czech.
• 36:11
  Oh. Peter Czech, yeah.
• 36:13
  Champions. League Premier League winner,
• 36:15
  yeah, he is the goalkeeper of my local team.
• 36:18
  He. Just bopps around anyone who
• 36:20
  will have it. Yeah, he just give a fuck.
• 36:22
  Play. Yeah, he just he, he he loves
• 36:25
  the game. That's what it is.
• 36:26
  He he lives for. The game, he's so funny.
• 36:28
  OK, so another common thread of the Puritans, and indeed America
• 36:32
  since its colonization, is a sense of victimhood.
• 36:35
  The Puritans felt like they were being persecuted, and in some
• 36:37
  case, they actually were. Thoughts.
• 36:40
  They're very fucking annoying and they deserved it.
• 36:43
  So they wanted to go to a land where they would be free of fast
• 36:46
  but wife murdering assholes. So they went to the Netherlands.
• 36:50
  But that I love. The surprise?
• 36:52
  I love the Dutch thing as well because they so, so the English
• 36:56
  had this kind of a tense kind of, eh, alliance because
• 37:02
  obviously they were born at war with Spanish and the Spanish
• 37:06
  Armada was a big thing at the time.
• 37:08
  Like, so they were like fucking everybody up.
• 37:10
  Yeah. Kind of the reason why England
• 37:11
  are so famous for the Navy now is because they had to build
• 37:15
  ships to fight off the Spanish Armada.
• 37:18
  After the Spanish, yeah. But the it's funny with the the
• 37:21
  Deutsch thing, obviously the Deutsch and the Brits, they're
• 37:23
  all like, we know New York was first called New Amsterdam.
• 37:26
  So like the, the Deutsche were over there like, yeah, eh,
• 37:29
  colonizing as well. But the Puritans went over to
• 37:34
  the Netherlands, who is a Protestant state, and they were
• 37:39
  like, yes, they'll take us in. And they were like the Dutch.
• 37:44
  If you think about the city of Amsterdam and what it's been
• 37:47
  famous for for hundreds of years, the Puritans land over
• 37:51
  there and they're like, yes, we'll go over to this Protestant
• 37:54
  nation. And then what?
• 37:55
  Like when you land in Amsterdam, it's this Oh yeah, it's an
• 37:59
  unholy place which doesn't like the if you want.
• 38:03
  Exactly iniquity. But this whole thing is like, if
• 38:05
  you want religion, go practice it.
• 38:06
  But religion isn't the state, especially not in Amsterdam.
• 38:10
  So you want to display us as like booze, prostitution and
• 38:15
  anything illicit you can think of The Puritans land here and
• 38:19
  they're like, yeah, we've made a mistake.
• 38:22
  There's. Like a terrible mistake.
• 38:24
  And it's it's, it's funny because the Puritans then were
• 38:27
  like, OK, where else do we go? And they taught about colonies
• 38:31
  in Ireland like, well, like not colonize and what?
• 38:33
  Like going to Ireland and. Taking a Swatch.
• 38:36
  Exactly. And then they figured out that
• 38:39
  probably not going to happen because not all like it's hard
• 38:42
  enough to compete with like the Catholics, but like the
• 38:45
  Protestants that are going over there, you're going to know
• 38:47
  you're going, you're going to have to compete with the
• 38:49
  Protestants that you don't agree with to get some land from
• 38:53
  Ireland. And it's you're not going to be
• 38:55
  given that land anyways because the king of England at the time,
• 39:01
  well, well, let's say like Elizabeth, then it comes down to
• 39:05
  Edward like, but they're basically running you out of
• 39:09
  England. Like what?
• 39:10
  They are persecuted, I suppose. But like, did, yes, you've
• 39:12
  disagreed with the king so much that he's been like, get the
• 39:15
  book on my side. Like, yeah.
• 39:16
  But like it's a persecution because they picked.
• 39:19
  The fucking fight, yes, yeah, yeah.
• 39:21
  Yeah, you know, And then they were like, oh, we're the victim
• 39:23
  again. This is like a common thread
• 39:25
  that, like, exists up to Mother Day.
• 39:27
  They pick a fight and then when people fight back, they're like,
• 39:30
  we're being oppressed. Please.
• 39:33
  It's like there's a big sign that says like, do not wear blue
• 39:36
  in this area. And then they wore blue, walked
• 39:39
  in, I went, why is everybody picking on us?
• 39:41
  Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like a rule of the woman.
• 39:43
  Can't wear blue. Yeah, like it's like that, eh,
• 39:45
  that woman, have you seen, umm, the shit now with the Grammys?
• 39:49
  So, eh, Billy Eilish won umm best album or whatever the fuck
• 39:54
  she won. I don't care.
• 39:55
  I'm mad at it because I wanted it to be sprinter Carpenter, but
• 39:57
  whatever. So she won.
• 39:59
  And in her acceptance speech she basically said fuck ice, like
• 40:03
  word for it. Damn right.
• 40:04
  And then there. There was this influencer now
• 40:07
  I've never heard of her before but she is a MAGA Fucking
• 40:11
  whoever the fuck. Because the Grammys just invite
• 40:14
  random fucking influencers these days.
• 40:16
  A lot of award shows are doing. Anything to get ticks?
• 40:18
  Yeah, so. She went Emily, Emily Austin, I
• 40:21
  think her name is, I don't know, like whatever, but she she
• 40:25
  based, no, I believe, looked as an Angel, but she she went and
• 40:30
  she she did this thing right. And so she was like filming
• 40:33
  herself during Billie Eilish's acceptance speech.
• 40:37
  So she obviously knew what was coming.
• 40:38
  She knew fucking Billie Eilish, outspoken liberal like Jenna
• 40:42
  mean, like, she's, she's gonna say like, yeah.
• 40:43
  So she was like, she basically, like, accepted the award, gave
• 40:47
  the whole speech. And then as she was walking off,
• 40:50
  held it up. And she was like, fuck ice.
• 40:52
  And then like, left. And she's like, oh, fuck ice,
• 40:55
  Fuck ice. I'm so edgy and cool.
• 40:57
  And like, her and her friend were just like, oh, and her
• 41:00
  friend was just like, we love America.
• 41:02
  And she was like, yeah, we love our law enforcement.
• 41:05
  Like did this. And then everyone was just like,
• 41:07
  she posted it. And she was like, oh, Billie
• 41:09
  Eilish. So you recently she said, I
• 41:12
  don't know a lot about Billie Eilish.
• 41:13
  I don't know about y'all. They always do this.
• 41:15
  They always do that. Yeah.
• 41:16
  I've never heard of Billie Eilish before she said this, but
• 41:19
  yeah. She was like, I don't like I,
• 41:21
  you know if, but a quick Google search will tell you that a
• 41:24
  random man like broke into her house last year and she called
• 41:27
  911 Billy. So you called 911 and you're
• 41:32
  saying that, you know, fuck I. And then like every comment was
• 41:36
  ice. Aren't cops, yeah.
• 41:39
  Ice. Aren't cops.
• 41:40
  And then she was like. I just wouldn't.
• 41:42
  Speak on something that I'm not educated on.
• 41:45
  So. And then everyone was like take
• 41:47
  your own advice because ICE aren't cops.
• 41:51
  And then I left a comment I'm not I'm not proud of, but it
• 41:57
  went viral. This is this, of course, what's
• 42:00
  Danny's viral comment this week like This is becoming one of
• 42:03
  those things. That he's like guys usually just
• 42:05
  picking a fight with some like idiot.
• 42:07
  Thinking and and it goes viral and like my favorite one was
• 42:11
  basically just this guy was swimming, diving, didn't know a
• 42:14
  blue whale was behind him. And then he freaked out.
• 42:16
  And then my comment was just like whale is just like, excuse
• 42:18
  me, sorry, like that got like thousands of likes and like
• 42:22
  hundreds and thousands. I'm like, that's fine.
• 42:23
  But this like, right. And I just I I don't know what I
• 42:26
  don't know why I said it. I don't know why I said it,
• 42:29
  because like she has thousands of like Republican women
• 42:32
  followers and you know, Republican women, right.
• 42:35
  And she now she. I know of an Ireland.
• 42:37
  Big fan of an Ireland. She.
• 42:39
  She. Was she was a gorgeous woman but
• 42:42
  clearly had a lot of work done and my car was I just don't see
• 42:47
  how you a trans woman has these political.
• 42:51
  Views. And everyone.
• 42:56
  Was just. I'm sure she was very happy
• 42:58
  with. That everyone was like, I, I
• 43:00
  think it has like last time I checked 150,000 likes within
• 43:05
  three hours of posting it. Haven't checked again.
• 43:08
  She's probably blocked me. But like, yeah, I was just like,
• 43:10
  that was just my first thing. And then I was like, is this
• 43:12
  rude to post? I don't care.
• 43:14
  I don't see how you, a trans woman, cannot like like
• 43:18
  objectively gorgeous woman but who's great hard.
• 43:21
  Work, it's perfect. It's perfect.
• 43:23
  It's like the one. It's the one thing that they
• 43:25
  want to hear. But I'm just like, yeah.
• 43:28
  Especially because they're all so obsessed with like getting
• 43:30
  plastic surgery to look a certain way to like look
• 43:33
  ridiculous, super feminine, but but then they end up looking
• 43:36
  like a melted welly and I think. And there's the whole, eh,
• 43:38
  there's a trend of like, Republican makeup.
• 43:41
  The MAGA face. Yeah, it's the eyeliner all the
• 43:44
  way around the eye, the fucking clumpy mascara, the lip too pale
• 43:49
  for your face. It's like I and it's it's it's a
• 43:51
  success. Legit.
• 43:52
  It's drag, actually. Yes, that's that's exactly what
• 43:55
  it is. All of the comments that I've
• 43:56
  seen on other videos about this woman are like, who the fuck is
• 43:59
  this person? Like nobody knows who she was.
• 44:02
  And there's like I'll. Tell you what, She is a
• 44:03
  contrarian. And that's the word.
• 44:05
  That's the word that's been going around my.
• 44:07
  Head loving that word. You do love that word.
• 44:10
  Yeah, man, I've been like, it's all I can think.
• 44:12
  About Have you been diagnosed with anything?
• 44:16
  Self diagnosed. Just because that's a, it's a
• 44:18
  very, yeah, it's very ADHD. And again, this is one of those
• 44:23
  things that shit I forgot I had to flagellate myself.
• 44:28
  But it is a very ADHD thing. It is too bad.
• 44:31
  You get like obsessed something. Yeah, so like when?
• 44:33
  When one word gets into your Danny.
• 44:35
  First of all, you also don't have a fucking ADHD diagnosis so
• 44:41
  I will be when? When did you get diagnosed?
• 44:44
  2017. You were just all.
• 44:45
  I thought she was just on an autistic.
• 44:47
  Why would I not say I am autistic and I got my ADH in
• 44:52
  ADHD diagnosis in 2017 when I moved here.
• 44:57
  I had my autism diagnosis in 2013.
• 45:00
  Yes, it doesn't count as it doesn't, it doesn't settle and
• 45:02
  women the same way, but anyways, so.
• 45:04
  Yeah, I kind of I'm kind of like self diagnosed.
• 45:06
  Yeah, I think I'm like a little bit.
• 45:10
  It's one of those, it's one of those things that what happens
• 45:12
  when you get diagnosed is that you can now diagnose other
• 45:16
  people. It's basically it's a zombie
• 45:19
  virus. I diagnose so many people with
• 45:21
  aliens. When I hear you saying that you
• 45:23
  have the word contrary in your head and it's rattling around
• 45:26
  your head, There is this real cyclical thing that sometimes,
• 45:29
  like you get a thaw in your head.
• 45:32
  Me and Danny have talked about before, like where you just get
• 45:33
  like, like it could be like just a vocal stem.
• 45:37
  Like just add something like a line from a movie, yeah, a song
• 45:41
  or something like that. And it just stays with you for
• 45:42
  the week. Like, and like, you know, like
• 45:44
  dental plan these on these braces.
• 45:46
  You could be doing that for two weeks.
• 45:47
  Like you could be like and it gets but I it happens to me as
• 45:50
  well, like random words as well, where it like will stick in my
• 45:53
  head and like that. Yeah, it that sounds like a go
• 45:58
  get yourself checked out, although it don't because you
• 46:00
  don't get it. I wouldn't have further like you
• 46:01
  just get to say you have it. Yeah, like, because the, the
• 46:04
  self diagnosis with like, you know, being on the spectrum was
• 46:07
  like I was trying to like, oh, you are.
• 46:09
  I was like frustrated. I was frustrated with like a
• 46:11
  situation that I was in, like I was living with a work colleague
• 46:14
  and I was really frustrated with it.
• 46:15
  And it just, it may, it reminded me of a lot of stuff from when I
• 46:18
  was younger and how I reacted and how I emotionally reacted to
• 46:22
  it. And then I just like was
• 46:23
  thinking about and thinking about it, thinking about it.
• 46:25
  And then I was reading about like autism.
• 46:27
  And then a friend of mine is a social care worker who
• 46:29
  specializes with autistic hits. So I called her just out of the
• 46:33
  blue. And I was like, hey, so I think
• 46:35
  I could be on the spectrum. Like, do you do have some time
• 46:38
  to talk about this? And so we talked about it for a
• 46:40
  few hours and she was like, oh, yeah.
• 46:41
  Like you meet a bunch of criteria, but like, you know,
• 46:45
  there's nothing wrong with that. And I was like no, no, no, like
• 46:46
  I'm just, I'm trying to like understand myself and how I.
• 46:50
  How? I interact with situations that
• 46:52
  I find myself in and I want to be better.
• 46:54
  Like I'm doing this as a 40 year old man.
• 46:56
  Yeah. And but yeah, like I, I wouldn't
• 46:58
  be surprised if I had like a touch of the ADHD like.
• 47:01
  My my friend Ree, so she's also into like her, her witchcraft
• 47:05
  and things like that. And believe it or not, I am the
• 47:09
  the normal one in this because she's very much just like I've
• 47:13
  had this term in my head like all week.
• 47:15
  And I've seen it on videos and things like that.
• 47:17
  And it just, I think I was something like a freezer burn.
• 47:21
  I think she had. And she saw a bunch of videos
• 47:24
  that had. Yeah.
• 47:25
  The. Freezer burn was the thing that
• 47:27
  you kept cropping up for you then.
• 47:29
  Yeah, and she, she, so she was talking about this.
• 47:32
  So I, I had mentioned like I had like freezer burn in my head,
• 47:34
  whatever. And she was gone.
• 47:36
  She's like, oh, this up. And this time, this time I was
• 47:38
  like Rihanna, like, sometimes you're just autistic, Like
• 47:42
  sometimes like not everything is a fucking sign.
• 47:44
  You, you just have pattern recognition, which is a huge,
• 47:47
  huge fucking thing when it comes to 880 and autism.
• 47:50
  Like and she, she, she's like, um, I guess you could say
• 47:53
  wicked. So like rule of free, everything
• 47:56
  and everything means something. I'm like, no, not everything
• 47:58
  means something. She rule of tree because she's a
• 48:01
  wicked no rule of tree because she's got fucking OCD.
• 48:05
  Yeah, like, oh, whatever you do, I'll come back on you.
• 48:08
  And like, that's all. It's all.
• 48:09
  And Denny's just like a nihilistic witch where she's
• 48:12
  like, nothing matters. I'm just like literally like
• 48:14
  there's like if I show I'll I'll send you a picture of the
• 48:16
  fucking the bottom shelf in my freezer.
• 48:18
  After this I don't give a fuck. I think I know.
• 48:21
  I know the horror. Whatever exists in your I don't
• 48:23
  want that euphemism to look at the bottom jar.
• 48:26
  Me fridge. So reason is like everything
• 48:29
  means something and just just basically like just everything
• 48:32
  means something. Everything has more meaning than
• 48:34
  it does. And then it's like, I was
• 48:35
  thinking about this person and they they popped up in my
• 48:37
  Instagram story views and I'm just like, that doesn't mean
• 48:40
  anything. That just basically means
• 48:41
  someone was just fucking going through their Instagram and was
• 48:44
  like, you came up or something like that.
• 48:47
  And I was like, I think you might have schizophrenia.
• 48:49
  And like coming from me to say that to somebody, she was just
• 48:52
  like, yeah, maybe. And he just diagnosed everybody.
• 48:55
  Speaking of someone who hears voices or heard voices.
• 48:59
  Here we go, America, that there we.
• 49:02
  Go Oh, America had been found. Quotations.
• 49:05
  Found in adverted commies. Found by a Grade A piece of shit
• 49:10
  Christopher Columbus a mere 40 or so years before the Puritans
• 49:15
  first set sail to those new shores.
• 49:17
  So they thought what better place to start afresh and build
• 49:20
  a utopia based on a pure form of Christianity than the New World?
• 49:24
  It is also worth noting that Columbus first arrived in the
• 49:27
  Bahamas as they're known today, and was preceded in terms of
• 49:30
  European visitation by Leif Ericsson, which as we know was
• 49:34
  preceded by Saint Brandon of Ireland.
• 49:36
  We fucking did it. Eh, please refer back.
• 49:41
  We are saying Brendan. As we did in last week's
• 49:44
  episode. Anyone, anyone who's like listen
• 49:47
  to this being like, let's listen to this American EH podcast.
• 49:51
  We did a podcast just last week on eh same Brendan or Brendan
• 49:55
  the Voyager. And I would implore you to go
• 49:57
  back and listen to that because we make some very good arguments
• 50:00
  that he founded America, OK? And the majority of our
• 50:04
  listeners are American, so they all know, eh?
• 50:07
  They will not know. They just know Christopher
• 50:08
  Columbus came over and they did some really shitty stuff and
• 50:11
  they didn't even know about the shitty stuff and they're about
• 50:13
  20 years ago. If even Christopher Columbus,
• 50:16
  like, let's not give them too much credit, but OK, yeah.
• 50:19
  Like, yeah, they had, like, you know, Columbus Day, which they
• 50:21
  eventually stopped celebrating. And now Donald Trump is talking
• 50:24
  about Trump Day. He's talking about putting up a
• 50:28
  statue of Christopher Columbus on the White House lawn just as
• 50:32
  a troll. He's a fucking contrarian.
• 50:33
  Just as a troll. He is.
• 50:35
  Like he's the one you see. Yeah, you see.
• 50:37
  Like, I get it the the the word, the word is right.
• 50:40
  Like it's eh, he's like contrarian is just another word
• 50:44
  for edge Lord really like and that's what like these yes, but
• 50:47
  that's what these that's what yeah, that's what umm Trump is
• 50:50
  basically and again, I don't want to go to into into the
• 50:52
  weeds of Trump because we're getting there.
• 50:54
  This is the long road to how Trump fucked America.
• 50:57
  It. Is the long Rd.
• 50:58
  Trump where we're, yeah, yeah, we're kind of like we're
• 51:01
  starting at the very start. Well, if you look at all these
• 51:04
  people in America like these guys and what America really is.
• 51:08
  Building blocks. It's guys who are like, oh, is
• 51:10
  this? Is this what you believe?
• 51:12
  Well, we're the opposite. And then they do fucking the
• 51:16
  stupidest, most horrible stuff that kind of, yeah, trolled in
• 51:20
  people's faces. It kind of just seems like it's
• 51:22
  been the American way since before America was even a
• 51:26
  country. Before it was called America, it
• 51:28
  has been the American way. Yeah, so I digress.
• 51:32
  As we tend to do on this podcast, back to the 17th
• 51:35
  century. So the Puritans arrived and
• 51:38
  built themselves a new colony, and each subsequent wave of
• 51:41
  arrivals built and built, each seemingly bringing different
• 51:43
  variations of purity, Puritanism and its interpretations.
• 51:47
  They believed in a social hierarchy based around first
• 51:50
  generation, second generation arrivals and so on.
• 51:53
  So they would, they initially, they would base people's
• 51:56
  ability, ability to vote based on who arrived 1st and who
• 52:00
  arrived last. So the the the original
• 52:02
  colonizers, their vote counted more than the most recent ones.
• 52:06
  So their colony, as I mentioned earlier, was one of 13 original
• 52:09
  colonies that were all based on the eastern seaboard of America
• 52:12
  that reached as far inland as just beyond the Appalachian
• 52:15
  Mountains, one of Danny's favorite places and a population
• 52:19
  which was estimated to be around 3,000,000 by the time the
• 52:22
  American Revolution arrived in 1775.
• 52:25
  Beyond those mountains laid the Native Americans in their
• 52:27
  largest numbers. They were on the land that the
• 52:29
  colonies were built on. And we all know what happened
• 52:32
  when Europeans discover other people's countries.
• 52:35
  Murder, theft, Death. Pestilence.
• 52:38
  So the again, Appalachia being like my favorite.
• 52:43
  I knew you couldn't mention Appalachia without as I was.
• 52:47
  Writing this, I was like, there we go, and.
• 52:49
  There's actually like a large thing going on nowhere.
• 52:52
  So the the mountain folk in Appalachia who don't have, I
• 52:57
  mean, they're that rural that they don't have like
• 52:59
  certificate, like birth certificates or they're not
• 53:02
  included in the census, anything like that.
• 53:04
  They're basically just so off the red.
• 53:05
  They have been coming forward now.
• 53:08
  Yeah, legit. Like have been coming forward
• 53:11
  now to take in immigrants and hide them because yeah.
• 53:18
  Like as slaves are. The opposite of what I was
• 53:20
  expecting you to say. Just hide them just to basically
• 53:23
  like we will take them in and and help them and just keep them
• 53:27
  out of the fucking radar. If they're already in the area
• 53:30
  and they have been in their radar and in the in the area and
• 53:33
  they don't have the documentation.
• 53:35
  These people have never had documentation, but they've been
• 53:38
  born in these mountains, Umm, and they've basically like.
• 53:41
  And they're all called William They.
• 53:43
  Fucking whatever. Umm, but they've all, they've
• 53:46
  all basically come forward to locals of their villages.
• 53:51
  They've come down and been like, look, if there's anyone that
• 53:55
  needs help, we can help, just bring them up.
• 53:59
  Here are the coordinates bringing them to random spots in
• 54:03
  the forest, not exactly to their places of residence, but to
• 54:07
  points where they can come and get them after they've been
• 54:09
  dropped off. And that's really huge thing.
• 54:13
  Yeah, there's been like. Kind of amazing a.
• 54:15
  Lot of people who've posted about it and stuff on like X and
• 54:20
  on. Call it Twitter.
• 54:22
  Yeah, I. Twitter yeah, sorry.
• 54:24
  I I just whatever. So like I like TikTok and stuff
• 54:26
  and like there's been a bunch. So there was one woman who she
• 54:30
  kind of made it go viral, who is a she's she teaches like
• 54:35
  folklore and something else in in a college.
• 54:40
  Like American folklore. Yeah, like, like she basically
• 54:44
  American history folklore, but towards that end of of American
• 54:47
  history, not essentially like the politics of it, just the
• 54:51
  whatever. So she's come forward and she's
• 54:52
  basically been like dropping these coordinates just really
• 54:56
  skeptically and like not spent. That's not the word I'm looking
• 54:59
  for cryptically. Yeah, yeah.
• 55:02
  Just dropping, dropping these coordinates, whatever.
• 55:04
  And these people who live in these very, very remote villages
• 55:08
  which don't have law enforcement, don't have
• 55:13
  anything. They just have a community.
• 55:15
  They're basically being like, if you are struggling, if you are
• 55:18
  in trouble, if you need fucking help here, go to this
• 55:22
  coordinate. They won't find you.
• 55:24
  They won't find your children. They won't, you know, any of
• 55:27
  this. Just come and we'll help you.
• 55:29
  And it's basically the fucking mountain folk who've never been.
• 55:32
  That's cool in the in this, in the census, anything like that
• 55:37
  have been? Able to call.
• 55:38
  And these people? Are doing to be honest with you.
• 55:41
  Yeah, like what's what's like? The thing is, there is AI.
• 55:44
  Know but like. That's yeah, they're tired to.
• 55:46
  Me just thinking, yeah, no. I don't think go to that point
• 55:50
  though of actively giving the coordinates.
• 55:52
  Because they're drop off points, Yeah.
• 55:54
  They're not the actual. Drop off point there's.
• 55:56
  It's it's close enough. Yeah, it's, it's easy that they
• 55:58
  they would still be in like travelling distance, walking
• 56:01
  distance to get to. Trafficking these people are.
• 56:05
  Trafficking distances, OK. Let me just believe in the good
• 56:08
  for a. OK, can can I get into just
• 56:11
  before I forget my eh, what I was going to say here and mine
• 56:14
  is actually about the pilgrims. Yeah, yeah.
• 56:17
  Danny, I don't want to cut you off.
• 56:19
  There was like is that? No, no, no.
• 56:21
  I mean like it's no, yeah, yeah, we know we're done.
• 56:23
  I just mean like that. There's nothing else to add to
• 56:25
  that. But I just it is a really
• 56:27
  interesting point. I actually I wouldn't mind
• 56:29
  looking at Openseam, they are actually doing with those
• 56:32
  people. And I want to see what's
• 56:34
  actually going on. From right, So what I what I
• 56:37
  wanted to do just again, hold on Riddle with ADHD.
• 56:41
  So I need to get this out of my system before.
• 56:44
  So like the idea of this like when they landed in New England
• 56:48
  is like, so like what was happening with these for once, a
• 56:53
  better plantations. There wasn't a lot of English
• 56:56
  people that were like, OK, we want to go over to the new world
• 56:59
  now, because it wasn't as if like, eh, at this point, it
• 57:02
  wasn't like you're going to get your fortune or whatever like
• 57:04
  that. The idea was you were going over
• 57:06
  there to colonize and it was going to be tough.
• 57:08
  Well, yeah, we've yeah. They've heard of like the only
• 57:12
  places that have read that the English have really, Colin, are
• 57:14
  actually another very fascinating thing is for me, I
• 57:18
  thought it's going to be fascinating.
• 57:20
  One of the colonies that they were actually, one of the places
• 57:23
  that they were looking at colonies and these Puritans was
• 57:26
  French Guyana, which is beside Venezuela now, which I think is
• 57:30
  another really interesting one that like the world would have
• 57:32
  been a completely different fucking place.
• 57:35
  Yeah. Like a bunch of fucking English
• 57:37
  Puritans landed in South America.
• 57:38
  There are, eh, Is that South America or would that be Central
• 57:42
  America? So it's the top of South
• 57:45
  America. It's the yeah.
• 57:47
  It's like lower central. Is that a good Guyana?
• 57:49
  Is that where that is? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 57:51
  yeah, yeah, yeah. Bolivia.
• 57:52
  Yeah. All them guys are all alone.
• 57:54
  Yeah. Closer than it, Yeah.
• 57:55
  So anyway, it doesn't matter. But like, I just thought that
• 57:57
  that was a fascinating thing that like they were looking at
• 58:00
  places like they thought Ireland, Ireland wasn't going to
• 58:02
  be a things like this. They said, let's go over to
• 58:05
  England. And now they were already on the
• 58:07
  outs with Edward, who was after. Ireland, they're just like,
• 58:12
  yeah, don't even bother, yeah. I think it was like there was
• 58:16
  going to be too much hassle, and there were.
• 58:17
  And again, yeah, they're going to be too close to England,
• 58:20
  where they were going to be under the persecution of Edward
• 58:23
  the king. Yeah.
• 58:24
  Yeah, because eventually England would have, they knew that
• 58:26
  England was like looking at Ireland going Yeah, that's.
• 58:28
  That was too like well, it it was like they they king of
• 58:33
  England was the king like Edward at the time I think was eh the
• 58:36
  king of eh his title was a king of England, France and Ireland.
• 58:41
  I think like he was like, yeah, he was the main, the main deal
• 58:44
  over there. So what Elizabeth had started in
• 58:46
  there. Now Elizabeth, an absolute cunt,
• 58:49
  but like her and eh her buddy Walter rally as well as Irish
• 58:54
  people would not be a big fan of and but he was like over there
• 59:01
  scope and out and like, well, he didn't even go over at that
• 59:03
  stage, but he was in charge of like the eh, the guys heading
• 59:09
  over there and colonizing eh America.
• 59:12
  And even though he hadn't gone over there yet, like the legs of
• 59:14
  John Smith and stuff had gone over there and the established
• 59:17
  Jamestown. But the stories coming back like
• 59:21
  now here's here, like I don't want to get too fucking eh down
• 59:25
  the rabbit hole of Roanoke. Roanoke was a settlement.
• 59:28
  Oh. My God I have I have a bunch of
• 59:30
  notes to do an episode. On that is a settlement in North
• 59:34
  Carolina that eh, they everybody kind of vanished.
• 59:40
  Now again, it's it there's it's supposed to be this mystery.
• 59:43
  I don't want to do this spoiler on that yet like of what I
• 59:45
  believe it is. But like what happened was
• 59:49
  people went over some shit went down like they were friendly
• 59:52
  with the locals. One guy kind of was a little bit
• 59:55
  opity and fucking a silver cope went missing.
• 59:58
  So he went and blamed a bunch of the locals and he was like, give
• 1:00:00
  me back my fucking silver cope. And they were like, we what is
• 1:00:03
  ownership? What is the silver cope?
• 1:00:05
  What do you want to book off? And so he created a bit of
• 1:00:09
  tension between these locals and then the people.
• 1:00:11
  Eh, the the guy that I think John White, eh White, yeah, he
• 1:00:18
  traveled back. He ended up getting fucking
• 1:00:20
  mixed up in this eh, Spanish War.
• 1:00:23
  And then got the kind of stuck in England for three years and
• 1:00:26
  by the time he came back the settlement was gone.
• 1:00:29
  Everything was gone, yeah, like no trace of anyone, nothing.
• 1:00:32
  And then? They left some carvings on trees
• 1:00:35
  on the. Trees.
• 1:00:36
  Yeah, to to like the the name of the local tribe that they
• 1:00:39
  thought they were kind of friendly with and stuff like
• 1:00:42
  that. Like and there was kind of a
• 1:00:43
  bunch of clues what happened, but like the place has taken
• 1:00:46
  apart. It wasn't as if it was destroyed
• 1:00:48
  and burnt around like that. The houses that were.
• 1:00:50
  No bodies or like bones, nothing.
• 1:00:53
  Nothing like that. It was like everyone just
• 1:00:55
  disappeared. Yeah, so the, the, the like even
• 1:00:57
  their, the, the the cabins and stuff that they had put up or
• 1:01:01
  dismantled and taken away. It wasn't like.
• 1:01:04
  So yeah, it wasn't burnt. Down like again, I'm after
• 1:01:08
  getting as far as I got into the weeds with fucking Henry the
• 1:01:12
  Eighth. They got so deep in.
• 1:01:15
  You've got into a row well. I'll say.
• 1:01:17
  About you and but we went rolling off what happens now it
• 1:01:21
  was word was getting back that this place you can't settle it
• 1:01:25
  because yeah and. Yeah, it's too wild, the land.
• 1:01:28
  Is. Animals will fuck you up, Yeah,
• 1:01:30
  the land will fuck you up and the natives will fuck you up.
• 1:01:34
  And it's The funny thing because they do kind of paint like with
• 1:01:40
  with the English hucked to they are cons for eh.
• 1:01:44
  They basically will demonize the locals like they don't know what
• 1:01:47
  Ireland eh where they actually use phrenology to say like that
• 1:01:50
  Irish people. Salvages or film or.
• 1:01:54
  Yeah, they were using like this the forceps on the head and we
• 1:01:58
  like look at the size of this big ignorant Irish head.
• 1:02:01
  That's just a big fat Irish head.
• 1:02:03
  That's just how we're built. I say this all the time, right?
• 1:02:05
  And people like people say this to me like my English or fucking
• 1:02:07
  like whoever friends think that big take Irish head is
• 1:02:11
  offensive. It's not.
• 1:02:13
  It's a biological. And I, I've left this comment on
• 1:02:15
  a bunch of TikTok videos and I'll have people be like, wow,
• 1:02:18
  OK, Oh my God, like how was this coming?
• 1:02:21
  And then like the actual fucking Irish person whose video it is
• 1:02:24
  that I've commented on have been like, yes girl.
• 1:02:27
  That's right. Yeah.
• 1:02:29
  It's crazy. Like come give me a fucking hug.
• 1:02:31
  But yeah, big take. Irish head is a fucking thing.
• 1:02:34
  But the English actually would. A demon is a saying that we were
• 1:02:36
  closer to animals like the than they were because we had this
• 1:02:40
  big ignorant head and they they like.
• 1:02:42
  Evolved. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:02:43
  They they used to put out pictures in their local
• 1:02:45
  newspapers of most looking like monkeys.
• 1:02:47
  Look like Wolfman or like, you know, half happy, Yeah.
• 1:02:51
  And I did on the same with the Africans, obviously.
• 1:02:53
  And yeah, Oh yeah, now that we're getting over to, umm, to
• 1:02:58
  America, what they've done now is they call these natives to
• 1:03:01
  savages. And yes, don't get me wrong, the
• 1:03:04
  further W you go, the more hostile the people were.
• 1:03:07
  But on the course the East Coast of America, they, they actually
• 1:03:11
  got a lot of cooperation with these, yeah, these locals.
• 1:03:15
  And that's what happened in Roanoke.
• 1:03:17
  And they actually did like with the the local, I fucking forget
• 1:03:21
  the name of like there's a lot of names of a lot of tribes over
• 1:03:24
  there. Yeah, the local tribes, they're
• 1:03:26
  actually working way at the side until the guy kind of made it
• 1:03:29
  like the English kind of made it hostile, you know what I mean?
• 1:03:31
  And then, yeah, it's the same in Jamestown, which was the most
• 1:03:35
  successful kind of plantation at the time.
• 1:03:38
  Eh, before the pilgrims are the before the the Puritans made
• 1:03:42
  their way over. They had also kind of had a
• 1:03:46
  really good kind of like that was in Virginia.
• 1:03:49
  Yeah. So like it was named after
• 1:03:51
  Elizabeth for diversion Queen. So I was in, I think James in
• 1:03:54
  Virginia. Yeah.
• 1:03:55
  So. Also a banger of a song by the
• 1:03:57
  movie Life, but yeah. Yes, but they, they, they, they
• 1:04:02
  had like again, the locals and the English actually had like
• 1:04:06
  they were cooperating and they were working together and the
• 1:04:08
  locals were actually showing them how to like plant the likes
• 1:04:11
  of maize. Actually.
• 1:04:13
  Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
• 1:04:14
  And they were showing them like what it like they act actually
• 1:04:17
  getting into like how to fertilize the land because this
• 1:04:20
  land is kind of different. So they went that was different.
• 1:04:22
  Yeah, they caught fish and they do as they opened the fish coats
• 1:04:26
  and they put the fish courts in with the seeds and then that was
• 1:04:29
  the fertilize the seeds. And like did the people are
• 1:04:31
  actually like did they were surviving on the goodwill of the
• 1:04:35
  locals, But going back home they were calling them savages
• 1:04:38
  because like, you know, like these people, they were uncouth
• 1:04:40
  and they weren't English and they weren't, you know, they
• 1:04:42
  were they were wearing linen clothes and stuff.
• 1:04:44
  So by the time they came around to to Plymouth and to actually
• 1:04:49
  like a getting colonizers to go over there and actually create a
• 1:04:55
  kind of a colony. Sorry, I don't know why I came
• 1:04:58
  into that word. Yeah, of horrible British
• 1:05:04
  people. Yeah, but it was pretty tough to
• 1:05:06
  get these people. So when the Puritans like who
• 1:05:10
  are kind of like a fucking the Netherlands are two Netherlands
• 1:05:13
  for us. So they, they were like, they
• 1:05:16
  went to the king, who, by the way, didn't like them.
• 1:05:20
  He was like, OK, well, we do need people over there, English
• 1:05:24
  people over there. Yeah.
• 1:05:26
  So the Puritans got on to the, I don't know if you get into it,
• 1:05:30
  but with the Mayflower and, eh, so they jump in there.
• 1:05:33
  And again, people think that the Pilgrims are the Puritans are
• 1:05:36
  just all Mayflower, but there were only probably about 1/3 of
• 1:05:40
  the people there and there was a lot of contention even on the
• 1:05:43
  board. I think there was like an 8 year
• 1:05:45
  old kid who nearly blew up the the the Mayflower because he was
• 1:05:48
  playing with a gun and he shot a a fucking a keg of gunpowder.
• 1:05:52
  Yeah. Yeah, on the fucking board,
• 1:05:54
  which was like. Your kid play with a fucking gun
• 1:05:57
  but whatever. English.
• 1:05:58
  And that is the story of America.
• 1:06:01
  Like. Even that, even the broadcast,
• 1:06:03
  even in. The episode we're done, we're.
• 1:06:09
  Done well, even. That's exactly the fucking
• 1:06:11
  Puritans. Yeah.
• 1:06:13
  So. This has been hoagies bogies
• 1:06:14
  like a focus. No, but that that's umm, but
• 1:06:18
  that that I just I just wanted to get into like how the
• 1:06:22
  Puritans ended up like this fork again, another yeah closer fork
• 1:06:26
  of events is after happening that gets the Puritans over
• 1:06:29
  there and when they land, Europeans have already been over
• 1:06:33
  there and yeah in Massachusetts and it was a pop poxit.
• 1:06:39
  What's namely? Poxitonia, yeah.
• 1:06:41
  Pop pox yes, something. We're probably wrong in that
• 1:06:44
  foot. But it's a it's white Pawtucket
• 1:06:45
  is called Pawtucket now. Yeah, so but it's pop pox is
• 1:06:48
  something whatever. And I'm sorry, sorry, sorry to
• 1:06:51
  any naive Americans this which I doubt you.
• 1:06:53
  Are we actually? Have two, but we.
• 1:06:55
  Do actually have two that I have?
• 1:06:56
  People. Oh, I forgot, they're probably
• 1:06:58
  people that she's right and he's like.
• 1:07:00
  Literally, I'm not. I'm writing him for verse
• 1:07:02
  Cowgirl and he's like, do yourself a favor, don't turn
• 1:07:05
  around. Oh good God, won't be the first
• 1:07:14
  Indian. Who was it?
• 1:07:17
  Was good. I'm so disappointed.
• 1:07:23
  Right. So these natives were decimated
• 1:07:26
  by as Ocean's north have said, the pestilence.
• 1:07:31
  So the Europeans brought diseases over there guys that
• 1:07:34
  there was like basically a plague ran rampant through the
• 1:07:39
  the locals and there was only a few of them left.
• 1:07:44
  So when like the Mayflower headed over and fucking, you
• 1:07:49
  know, a couple of 100 people got off this board.
• 1:07:52
  The locals were like, it's better that we actually work
• 1:07:55
  with these guys than get in trouble with them because what's
• 1:07:58
  happening on the West of the locals as well.
• 1:08:00
  They're at war with these other like tribes.
• 1:08:03
  So they actually got in and, as I said, helped the locals start
• 1:08:09
  on how to to eh, work the land and how to like survive
• 1:08:14
  basically and hope at that stage that I think they arrived in the
• 1:08:18
  like the winter was coming already like so like it was
• 1:08:21
  getting they. Were arriving at a tough time,
• 1:08:23
  yes, so. I was going to be fucked up.
• 1:08:25
  So when they arrived, the locals really like looked after them
• 1:08:30
  and the pilgrims didn't you know, it was needs most like the
• 1:08:34
  Puritans came over, but the like we are holier than thou and
• 1:08:38
  we're going to take over. Yes.
• 1:08:40
  But what really happened was they're like, OK, now we
• 1:08:42
  actually have to bend and allow these locals to show us how to
• 1:08:47
  survive in this land that is fucking yeah crazy over.
• 1:08:50
  And it was, it was a tough pill for them to swallow because like
• 1:08:52
  they, they saw them as savages and then they were like relying
• 1:08:55
  on them. And they could see that like the
• 1:08:57
  these, like the, the natives understood the land better than
• 1:09:00
  they did because of course they did.
• 1:09:02
  And it was, you know, it was a difficult pill for them to
• 1:09:05
  swallow because they were bringing over that like, you
• 1:09:07
  know, European supremacy with them.
• 1:09:09
  Yeah, Jagged Little Pilgrim. Well, it was, it was could not
• 1:09:14
  do it. And it was a yeah, I got it.
• 1:09:19
  But that's yeah. So that's just, again, not to
• 1:09:21
  try try and fucking like take off or whatever because like
• 1:09:25
  you've done a lot of work on this.
• 1:09:26
  But for me, I like the the little nuances of like, how the
• 1:09:30
  fuck this happened, like how it got there, like, you know, this.
• 1:09:32
  Yeah, just tumbling of the vet, like the snowball that kind of
• 1:09:35
  gets bigger and bigger, bigger and then lands.
• 1:09:37
  Yeah. OK, America, weird Christian
• 1:09:40
  nation because these guys landed over there and got taken care of
• 1:09:43
  by natives that they then more or less murdered.
• 1:09:48
  Yes. So pretty much.
• 1:09:50
  The Puritans, or Pilgrims as they were also known, spread far
• 1:09:54
  and wide and what would go on to become New England.
• 1:09:56
  Approximately 13,000 Pilgrims are Puritans made the journey in
• 1:10:01
  the hope of escaping persecution.
• 1:10:03
  That is until they found that they could be the ones doing the
• 1:10:05
  persecuting as mentioned their. Themes There was less than
• 1:10:09
  13,000 at the Robbie Williams concert in Slain and 1990. 6 So
• 1:10:15
  I'm just saying there was like a Robbie Williams, no.
• 1:10:18
  There's more. There was 18,000 years at Robbie
• 1:10:21
  Williams Lane. I don't know why that was my
• 1:10:24
  head but whatever. Anyway, there was less Pilgrims
• 1:10:27
  that came over. Less pilgrims than Robbie
• 1:10:29
  Williams. And then caused more destruction
• 1:10:32
  than anyone who went to Robbie Williams and slain would have.
• 1:10:35
  And that brings us back to the American the the saying of like
• 1:10:37
  Americans will use anything other than the metric system to
• 1:10:40
  measure things. They didn't even have Rocky Day.
• 1:10:43
  They didn't even have. As mentioned there, there are
• 1:10:47
  teams and a big team is their victimhood complex and paranoia
• 1:10:51
  under Charles the 1st. When this all kicked off, he
• 1:10:55
  then banned emigration to the New world.
• 1:10:57
  And who reopened emigration to the New World in the 1650s?
• 1:11:01
  Justy what English character? Fucking Cromwell.
• 1:11:06
  Fucking Cromwell, another of history's great bastards, the
• 1:11:11
  Puritans then went on to dominate.
• 1:11:13
  They were the the dominant European influence of the new
• 1:11:17
  World until the early 1700s. That's how long like their their
• 1:11:20
  direct eh influence was, which obviously then like it waned,
• 1:11:24
  but like continued to modern day.
• 1:11:26
  And that's the I have a Cromwell.
• 1:11:27
  The whole point of what we're. Talking about I have a Cromwell
• 1:11:30
  story. I know I need to tell it right?
• 1:11:31
  So my my brother, not my MAGA brother, my my good brother,
• 1:11:37
  good brother lives in Wexford still, right?
• 1:11:41
  And he lives in Cromwell Port. Oh God.
• 1:11:44
  In Wexford, that's what that's what the place is called, right?
• 1:11:47
  They had next door neighbors who had moved in and moved out like
• 1:11:52
  pretty much fucking straight away.
• 1:11:53
  So my brother and his wife had like actually had to complain
• 1:11:56
  about the noise several times because at like her I just see,
• 1:11:59
  I think I told you this, no. I, I, I maybe you did, but I, I
• 1:12:05
  don't remember that shit. But I, I'm just thinking that I
• 1:12:07
  know of Cromwell's Fort. I know people took like blocks
• 1:12:12
  from Cromwell's court. They went in and like took it
• 1:12:15
  down piece by piece in the right.
• 1:12:16
  Book in Yeah, the Cromwell court is all like.
• 1:12:19
  For sorry, not called. Gorgeous land and and mountains.
• 1:12:23
  It was it's a really nice area has like a lake and stuff like
• 1:12:26
  that. Like we used to like have to.
• 1:12:28
  So when my brother lived there when he rented at the time,
• 1:12:32
  there was like this house and say that was just built, but
• 1:12:34
  behind it was like fucking gorgeous, beautiful countryside
• 1:12:37
  like whatever. But anyway, so my older brother,
• 1:12:41
  I have three, my other brother like who bought his house that
• 1:12:43
  he lives in there with his wife and his two kids.
• 1:12:46
  And they had next door neighbor who in the middle of the night.
• 1:12:50
  Now they had like made noise complaints before.
• 1:12:53
  Well they didn't they had knocked in and been like what
• 1:12:56
  the fuck is going on? Why you so fucking labeled at
• 1:12:58
  3:00 in the fucking morning? We have two children like
• 1:12:59
  whatever. And this family, they were like
• 1:13:02
  a Polish family. They were just like yeah, Nope,
• 1:13:05
  sorry, didn't really give any explanation.
• 1:13:07
  But they were just like, we'll, we'll keep it down.
• 1:13:09
  Long story short, ended up in the fucking local newspaper in
• 1:13:13
  Wexford for the house being haunted.
• 1:13:17
  So in the middle of the night, basically all this banging and
• 1:13:20
  crashing that my brother and his his wife had heard the cupboard
• 1:13:26
  doors in the kitchen would just swing open the cutlery and the
• 1:13:29
  crockery were just being fucking like slammed onto the ground,
• 1:13:32
  just thrown to the fucking ground.
• 1:13:34
  I think the kid had been woken up screaming.
• 1:13:38
  I think that their kid was two years younger than my brother's
• 1:13:44
  youngest kid. So they weren't like, you know,
• 1:13:46
  they weren't the same age. They would like play together,
• 1:13:49
  but they knew each other kind of thing.
• 1:13:51
  All of this mad shit would happen.
• 1:13:53
  Umm, and it was in the the fucking Westford Echo, the the
• 1:13:57
  People newspaper, all of this shit that it was like haunted
• 1:14:00
  house in Cromwell sports like terrible or in fucking Cromwell,
• 1:14:04
  whatever. And do you reckon it could have
• 1:14:06
  been Cromwell? Oh, that whole area.
• 1:14:09
  So that whole part of Wexford is like horribly fucking haunted.
• 1:14:13
  Like if you go all through those woods and everything like that,
• 1:14:16
  there's stories for fucking wherever, but it's.
• 1:14:19
  Wexford is kind of, eh, it's weird because like, it's just
• 1:14:22
  down there, yeah, but like, again, it's like the Kennedys,
• 1:14:26
  the Cromwells, the Famine, fucking there.
• 1:14:30
  Yeah. Everything.
• 1:14:31
  Happens, yeah. There's loads of fucking weird
• 1:14:35
  shit fucking play and umm, so, and that was the thing like
• 1:14:40
  strawberry. But there was like a huge
• 1:14:43
  fucking thing on my brother was like obviously he's just like, I
• 1:14:46
  don't fucking know, Like I don't care.
• 1:14:47
  Like he's like, he's so he goes to bed, he sleeps through the
• 1:14:50
  night and his wife is just awake all the time.
• 1:14:53
  So she's like, she'll hear crash next door a fucking like glasses
• 1:14:59
  smashing, whatever. And she thought to herself at
• 1:15:01
  first, So like, she's a very nice woman.
• 1:15:03
  She's a very like, oh, like what if it's an abusive relationship
• 1:15:07
  and we have to get that woman out of there Generally?
• 1:15:08
  What if it's people are in danger?
• 1:15:10
  That's where her head is going because she's waking up in the
• 1:15:12
  night to like fucking yeah, dishes smashing and like
• 1:15:15
  whatever. As for her head's going?
• 1:15:17
  Just sounds like the Polish to. Me and then she like does she
• 1:15:19
  she don't don't start me, but she basically like she got it up
• 1:15:27
  the next day that I think like my brother was like in the
• 1:15:29
  office and whatever and she was working from home that day and
• 1:15:32
  she was like, you know what I know she's in there the as in
• 1:15:36
  the wife. I'm going to just knock in and
• 1:15:39
  I'm going to just talk to her and just going to see like
• 1:15:41
  what's going on. I'm going to just offer an ear
• 1:15:43
  whatever right and this woman she was like, I'm so glad that
• 1:15:48
  you knocked in. She was like, I just, I thought
• 1:15:50
  I was going insane. It's so nice to hear that
• 1:15:52
  someone else just fucking hears it.
• 1:15:54
  She's like, what are you talking about?
• 1:15:56
  And she was like, just we can't sleep.
• 1:15:57
  We haven't slept in so long. Our children are fucking
• 1:16:00
  terrified. There's we go to bed and things
• 1:16:02
  are being thrown around downstairs doors are are
• 1:16:06
  slammed. We think we have a night without
• 1:16:08
  it. There's someone storming up the
• 1:16:10
  stairs and storming back down the stairs.
• 1:16:12
  And she basically just sobbed and started pouring her hair out
• 1:16:14
  her hair out to my sister-in-law.
• 1:16:16
  My sister-in-law was like, very, very Catholic, very like, you
• 1:16:19
  know, she was raised like, very religious.
• 1:16:21
  She need to get the church involved.
• 1:16:23
  You need to do this. You need to do that.
• 1:16:25
  And she was just kind of like, well, I know that's not going to
• 1:16:29
  help. Yeah, she's like, I that's not
• 1:16:30
  going to help. Like, whatever.
• 1:16:32
  And it was just, and, and she called me and she told me about
• 1:16:36
  it and I was like, eh, I was still living in my old place and
• 1:16:39
  all the time because she knows I'm, I'm so into it, whatever.
• 1:16:41
  I was like, well, you know, it's because you're living in a
• 1:16:43
  fucking place called Cromwell Sport.
• 1:16:45
  I'm sorry, but that's like, it's a lot of hate and just fucking
• 1:16:49
  bad energy that's going to just carry yourself over bad vibes.
• 1:16:52
  And she was like, well, what do I do?
• 1:16:53
  And I was like, well, she needs a fucking exorcism or she needs
• 1:16:56
  to move out. And it got to a point where the
• 1:16:59
  neighbors started talking about it so much that it was in the
• 1:17:02
  fucking papers that it was like House of Horrors.
• 1:17:05
  If you Google it, you'll probably fucking see it.
• 1:17:08
  It's like House of Horrors and Wexford.
• 1:17:11
  And this poor woman and her family just moved.
• 1:17:13
  They were just like, yeah, we don't want anything to do with
• 1:17:15
  it. And apparently so they were.
• 1:17:18
  So the house was like joined as well.
• 1:17:21
  So she we've been talking about and stuff and I was like, oh,
• 1:17:24
  have you, have you heard anything else?
• 1:17:25
  Like, no, nothing since they moved out.
• 1:17:27
  There was nothing. And then there was a whole
• 1:17:29
  thing. And she was like, I think like
• 1:17:30
  whatever was wrong was attached to the family and not the house.
• 1:17:33
  And I was like, you live in Cromwell.
• 1:17:36
  'S park. The family were haunted.
• 1:17:38
  That old chest. The whole thing.
• 1:17:39
  And I was like, oh, you haven't heard anything.
• 1:17:41
  I was like, well, does anyone else live in there?
• 1:17:42
  And she was like, no. I couldn't have been Cromwell
• 1:17:44
  because, like, if Cromwell was haunting like that place, he'd
• 1:17:48
  want the Irish out first. Of course, there's a pure habit.
• 1:17:52
  Like he leaves like, yeah, he leaves the Polish alone.
• 1:17:54
  Like he'd be like, yeah, they're.
• 1:17:57
  Terrifying in that house. And then like literally they
• 1:17:59
  realize that it's my brother and his wife and kids in the wrong
• 1:18:03
  house. He's like, fuck, I meant to go
• 1:18:04
  next door. I I meant to be in in the house
• 1:18:08
  that's haunted by actual Oliver Crown I need.
• 1:18:10
  To go to 18 for fuck's sake. But yeah, it's just and that
• 1:18:14
  that's like a a huge fucking pirate of Ireland and a lot of
• 1:18:18
  places in America, you have all of these like massive hauntings
• 1:18:21
  that date back to how fucking terrible it was when the English
• 1:18:27
  buried this and. Found this.
• 1:18:30
  Like it's all this said, the trope is the Indian Indian
• 1:18:34
  burial ground, isn't it? Yeah.
• 1:18:36
  So that's the, that's the kind of it and.
• 1:18:37
  It's never. That again, it's.
• 1:18:39
  Paved over an Indian burial ground and that's why you've got
• 1:18:42
  angry spirits just. I don't, I just I don't want to
• 1:18:46
  get down down here. And again, I'm not infected by
• 1:18:49
  the walk mine virus here guys. But just if I you say an Indian
• 1:18:53
  burial ground, I'm not trying to be when I say the word Indian,
• 1:18:58
  it's just like it's one of those.
• 1:18:59
  Phrases in pop culture, Yeah. Yeah, so again, like, I don't
• 1:19:02
  know. I don't know if Native American
• 1:19:04
  is what we're supposed to be saying or Indigenous American or
• 1:19:07
  whatever. Native Americans I think is
• 1:19:09
  acceptable. I do hear people saying like
• 1:19:11
  it's fine to say Indian as well, but like I can't, I look again,
• 1:19:15
  if if I heard like a bunch of fucking French people doing a
• 1:19:21
  podcast and refer to Irish people as Paddies, I'd be a
• 1:19:24
  little bit like, hey, hey up. I know it's yeah.
• 1:19:27
  It's not as hurtful. Yeah.
• 1:19:29
  If you're not. English, but like, I'd still be
• 1:19:31
  like, yeah, like he's up. Like, so again, if I'm not,
• 1:19:35
  damn. If I'm saying Indian burial
• 1:19:36
  ground, it's only because that's the trope.
• 1:19:38
  Yeah. And but yeah, let's get.
• 1:19:40
  I can do this. So here's where we get to 1 of
• 1:19:44
  the juiciest parts of the Puritans.
• 1:19:45
  And again, this is extremely no, the Jews were not in America at
• 1:19:50
  this point or to. Just to do it.
• 1:19:52
  Sorry to go back to a Cromwell point, You ever heard a story
• 1:19:55
  about when they invited Bertie Ahern or?
• 1:20:00
  Oh my God, down the street. That's my favorite and my
• 1:20:02
  favorite story. So when when Bertie Ahern was
• 1:20:06
  being looked with like I think was Blair at the player.
• 1:20:10
  Yeah. So I like to invite them into
• 1:20:12
  down the street and no in #10 down the street, Yeah.
• 1:20:16
  I don't know if it's still the way it is now, but in the like
• 1:20:19
  for yeah, like as you walk. They have Cromwell.
• 1:20:22
  At like a 10 foot, yeah, picture of that.
• 1:20:25
  Was deliberate. They did that on purpose.
• 1:20:28
  Yeah, but like it's funny, it's like getting inviting all this.
• 1:20:31
  Fucking. Like it's like inviting
• 1:20:33
  Netanyahu over and having a massive picture of Hitler in
• 1:20:36
  your fucking yeah in your for yeah.
• 1:20:38
  Like it's, it's just like guys come on a little bit more
• 1:20:40
  tackling. No, no.
• 1:20:42
  That was just a weird power move.
• 1:20:44
  I. Would have swastikas.
• 1:20:46
  I would have everything. I Yeah, yeah.
• 1:20:48
  Yeah, yeah. OK, maybe that was a bad
• 1:20:50
  example. But I'm just saying it's that
• 1:20:52
  thing is like you put up like one of the like a painting of
• 1:20:54
  like one of the worst people that you could put up for a
• 1:20:56
  person to look at. And it's just like, ah, I see
• 1:20:59
  the power game you're playing here.
• 1:21:00
  Yes. Anyway, go on.
• 1:21:01
  OK, so one of the juiciest parts of the Puritans.
• 1:21:04
  So it wasn't the first church, but it was called the First
• 1:21:07
  church and it was the first Puritan church in Salem,
• 1:21:11
  Massachusetts. An early arrival by the name of
• 1:21:14
  Roger Williams landed in Boston. And was, he was like, you know,
• 1:21:18
  one of the first waves of, of immigrants to come via the
• 1:21:23
  Puritans. And he landed in Boston, and he
• 1:21:26
  was offered, well, what would go on to become Boston.
• 1:21:30
  He was offered to be the pastor of the church, but he refused on
• 1:21:33
  contrarian grounds of you're too close to the Church of England.
• 1:21:38
  So after a few more falling outs with various people in Boston
• 1:21:41
  and in other churches, he found his way to Salem, MA, where
• 1:21:46
  nothing bad happened. Oh, never, ever, ever.
• 1:21:49
  Now, while Williams was 60 years before the Salem witch trials
• 1:21:53
  took place, he was assistant pastor to a guy called Samuel
• 1:21:57
  Skelton, good Irish name and the pair of them essentially, they
• 1:22:02
  set in motion the the local culture and religious beliefs
• 1:22:06
  that eventually led to one of the, you know, spooky true
• 1:22:10
  crimes favorite events, the Salem witch trials nice love it.
• 1:22:14
  You know, because they were, they were just a community of,
• 1:22:17
  of Puritans and the Puritan pastor would just set the tone,
• 1:22:22
  you know, like they would, it was like Catholic priests.
• 1:22:24
  They would set the tone for the town.
• 1:22:26
  They would control people's lives.
• 1:22:27
  They would tell people how to. Live in their little.
• 1:22:29
  Heels in their little heels. And so the Salem Witch trials
• 1:22:32
  were a case of mass hysteria in which over 200 people were
• 1:22:35
  accused of being a witch, 30 people were convicted, and 19
• 1:22:38
  were put to death or murdered. By any other definition, 14
• 1:22:42
  women and five men were executed because they were believed to be
• 1:22:45
  witches. When really, a compelling case
• 1:22:47
  can be made that the town and its surrounds had acute ergot
• 1:22:50
  poisoning and were just tripping balls for the space of a whole
• 1:22:54
  year. All.
• 1:22:55
  Of that. One woman, one black woman who
• 1:22:59
  was a slave and who they had basically seen as a the source
• 1:23:05
  of all of this tuba was her name.
• 1:23:07
  Basically. She was a slave.
• 1:23:09
  Yeah. So she, she had a lot of
• 1:23:12
  obviously herbal remedies for things.
• 1:23:15
  Yes. And she was basically seen as a
• 1:23:18
  witch because these herbal remedies had worked for.
• 1:23:21
  These fucking this stuff came. Pasty cons.
• 1:23:25
  This stuff, she obviously had like remedies that would have
• 1:23:27
  been like African. Or is it that?
• 1:23:32
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:23:32
  It would have been like natural remedies she understood.
• 1:23:35
  Like, you know, if you boiled a certain root, you could get a
• 1:23:37
  compound from it because, you know, like, she came from a
• 1:23:40
  community that was more in touch with nature.
• 1:23:41
  Yeah. And she was basically.
• 1:23:43
  Like making Brits were after some things like that.
• 1:23:45
  Yeah, the Brits were like, that's bad.
• 1:23:47
  Exactly like these different herbs do different things and
• 1:23:49
  you have like the same correspondences in witchcraft
• 1:23:52
  where it's like different herbs will do different things in
• 1:23:54
  witchcraft, but it's also health wise.
• 1:23:56
  You can brew anything into a tea to help combat different things
• 1:24:01
  and to do different things. So this woman basically was umm,
• 1:24:04
  not even a medicine woman like because she was very much just
• 1:24:08
  like umm, like a house. She.
• 1:24:10
  Was like just like like my fucking what her years ago would
• 1:24:13
  have been like Paul Paul to sign your exactly yeah on your
• 1:24:16
  ingoing toenail or and like the metal.
• 1:24:18
  Team. Oldest.
• 1:24:20
  Yeah, Witch. She's a witch.
• 1:24:21
  Whatever the fuck. Yeah, yeah, it was.
• 1:24:24
  It was basically just that. And because she was and she was
• 1:24:27
  from a country that like so this was probably very fucking normal
• 1:24:30
  in, you know, in her country to be like, oh, you have this
• 1:24:34
  ailment, put this and this not on it, right?
• 1:24:36
  And because she's shipped over from a fake fucking a different
• 1:24:40
  country to here and she has these different ideas to do
• 1:24:43
  different things that like these fucking puritan cunts would
• 1:24:45
  never have thought of all which. It's funny.
• 1:24:48
  As well that they evil. The Puritans were being fucking
• 1:24:51
  like eh, obviously like 60 years beforehandler or whatever.
• 1:24:55
  It is where they landed. They were being rescued by the
• 1:24:58
  people of the land who were using the land to save the pure.
• 1:25:01
  There were still 2. There were two of their own
• 1:25:04
  hours to accept. That there's always this, this
• 1:25:07
  layer of hypocrisy through like, puritanical behavior that goes
• 1:25:12
  on to the modern day. And it's almost like hypocrisy
• 1:25:14
  is the point. Yeah.
• 1:25:16
  And to to just just to jump back into this specific thing with
• 1:25:19
  the sound mature. So the two little cons that
• 1:25:21
  basically start this whole thing and the two daughters, the one
• 1:25:24
  of them was the daughter of the new reverend in this town and
• 1:25:29
  she was just a fucking bad egg and her and her best friend were
• 1:25:32
  going out. And now, umm, we'll talk about
• 1:25:35
  this in a second. Ocean has notes on this that
• 1:25:37
  basically there was like a route that made the whole town high
• 1:25:40
  because it basically kind of. No, it was a there was it was a
• 1:25:45
  yeah. So it was the IT was like their
• 1:25:47
  grain stores. Yeah, got eh, got like an
• 1:25:50
  Oregon, eh, Yeah, yeah. Mold, yeah.
• 1:25:53
  And if you if you eat it, you just get high as fuck and you
• 1:25:56
  loosen it. But.
• 1:25:57
  These these two little bitches had gone out, unlike actively,
• 1:26:01
  umm, consumed plants that would make you get high actively.
• 1:26:08
  And so they were doing that and whatever.
• 1:26:10
  And then they they'd come back, eh, to the town hi as fuck.
• 1:26:16
  And they were told basically like, what the fuck?
• 1:26:18
  Like instead of getting in trouble, they'd be like, Oh
• 1:26:20
  yeah, like to Tuba gave us this shit.
• 1:26:23
  She, she bewitched us and that's why one of the, one of the
• 1:26:26
  common things was that, umm, like a woman that they were
• 1:26:30
  accusing of being a witch would control them with her mind and
• 1:26:34
  make them hurt themselves. Yeah.
• 1:26:35
  So it's like, oh, you know, I I have this bruise because she
• 1:26:38
  controlled, she did it with her mind and her witchy power and.
• 1:26:41
  It's basically just like, yeah, they didn't.
• 1:26:44
  So like with with stuff like this, would like to sell them
• 1:26:47
  which try to like I am painting in broad strokes because like
• 1:26:50
  these are things that we can get into in more depth.
• 1:26:52
  And it's the same with like, you know, like other things that I'm
• 1:26:56
  about to mention. It's just that this is kind of
• 1:26:58
  just very rapidly us kind of running through history and
• 1:27:02
  dipping into these subjects like the Salem witch trials is a
• 1:27:05
  whole thing in itself. Doing an episode right?
• 1:27:11
  But it didn't survive. But like, no, to be fair, when
• 1:27:14
  it comes to that, right? And we can go back to like what
• 1:27:16
  we're saying. A lot of it is just basically
• 1:27:19
  the bridge just fucking coming in and lying.
• 1:27:23
  And then that's just what fucking happens.
• 1:27:25
  Like so. You with those, with the girls
• 1:27:28
  particularly, what I would say is sorry, I need to cut you off.
• 1:27:32
  But like I, I'm, I'm actually just kind of trying to piggyback
• 1:27:36
  on your point there of the lion. It's like when you've got the
• 1:27:39
  girls and there's so much rigid rules, especially with the
• 1:27:42
  Puritans, and then you've got, you know, hormones, your, your
• 1:27:46
  want, your zest for life has been suppressed.
• 1:27:50
  You're out in this fucking place that is kind of wild, but you're
• 1:27:53
  expected to not be wild. And these young girls wanted to
• 1:27:57
  go out and play and do this. And when they get back and it's
• 1:28:00
  like, why have you done this? Why are like, why are you
• 1:28:03
  bruised? Why are your clothes malled?
• 1:28:04
  Why are you having? Why are you having?
• 1:28:07
  Yeah, exactly. And then they turn around and
• 1:28:10
  they go, oh, shit. It's, you know, it's this chick
• 1:28:12
  who's making. It's the medicine woman or
• 1:28:14
  whatever it is that's after bewitching us because she's a
• 1:28:17
  witch. Yeah.
• 1:28:19
  And so generally, witch trials were common in over the
• 1:28:22
  religious communities. And in my opinion, it was a way
• 1:28:24
  for religious losers to punish people that they thought weren't
• 1:28:28
  holy enough, or they were jealous that they had a husband,
• 1:28:30
  or they were jealous that they had a really cute bonnet.
• 1:28:33
  So, so so in Salem. Which is the cute?
• 1:28:37
  Planet in Salem. It was a couple of young girls
• 1:28:40
  who accused all and sundry around them of committing
• 1:28:42
  various acts of violence and harm through witchcraft.
• 1:28:45
  And when you're high as fuck and you don't know that you're high
• 1:28:48
  as fuck, all of this seems plausible.
• 1:28:50
  And so the witch trial again to go back to an earlier point of
• 1:28:54
  how there are teams that go from Puritan behavior up until modern
• 1:28:58
  day, the witch trial is another team that runs to modern
• 1:29:01
  America. The phrase witch hunt stems from
• 1:29:04
  this and can be attributed to people in power deciding that
• 1:29:07
  the small group or thing is causing a larger problem and the
• 1:29:10
  majority should hunt and seek these people or things and get
• 1:29:13
  rid of them, thus exercising the evil.
• 1:29:16
  Prime examples are Native Americans, Chinese immigrants
• 1:29:19
  who built most of their railroads, Japanese immigrants
• 1:29:22
  post World War 2, Joseph McCarthyism and his hunt for
• 1:29:26
  commies blaming. Metal music, yeah.
• 1:29:29
  Oh absolutely, that's huge. Blaming metal music for school
• 1:29:33
  shootings? That's another one.
• 1:29:34
  And today? Titanic panic.
• 1:29:35
  Blaming immigrants for all of society's woes when really it's
• 1:29:39
  just a cabal of super rich paedophiles pitting us all
• 1:29:42
  against each other. Shots fired.
• 1:29:47
  That. Shots fired.
• 1:29:50
  Like, like, like, like when I was, when I was writing that, I
• 1:29:53
  was just like in my head, it was just Alex Jones's voice, you
• 1:29:59
  know, like it's, it's just, it's bananas.
• 1:30:02
  Again, like I'm just, I think the way that I see America these
• 1:30:06
  days is just The Sims. Like it's just, you're just
• 1:30:10
  dropping characters into something and you're just
• 1:30:12
  you're, you're, you're testing different plots, but it's
• 1:30:14
  happening in real time because nothing that ever happens makes
• 1:30:19
  fucking sense. Nothing that happens is logical
• 1:30:23
  and the rest of the world is just watching it.
• 1:30:25
  Like what? Like what the?
• 1:30:26
  Fuck are you? Doing like.
• 1:30:28
  We're watching. So like in in V for Vendetta,
• 1:30:31
  Yes. By Alan Moore.
• 1:30:33
  Yeah. They refer to America as a place
• 1:30:37
  of like, you know, filth and sin.
• 1:30:39
  And essentially, the rest of the world had to lock America off.
• 1:30:42
  It's like modern day city of. Like to like lock off their
• 1:30:47
  negative influence from the rest of the world.
• 1:30:48
  And then like, of course, V for Vendetta, the, the British
• 1:30:50
  government is like this dystopian, full religious, uh,
• 1:30:56
  like fascist government that is just like hell bent on
• 1:30:59
  controlling. But they, there is a throwaway
• 1:31:02
  comment about how like, you know, Oh yeah, the Americans are
• 1:31:05
  these like filthy dirty things that we have to just, you know,
• 1:31:09
  lock them away from, from the rest of us.
• 1:31:11
  Yeah. Yeah, it's, it's an interesting
• 1:31:13
  one because like, I suppose if you, if you consider like, like
• 1:31:18
  let's say the world is a science project, right?
• 1:31:23
  And let's like, let's just look at Ireland in the way that what
• 1:31:26
  you would have done here is you, you put like germs, you know,
• 1:31:31
  one of those science projects where you put germs into a
• 1:31:34
  little Petri dish and you watch them grow.
• 1:31:37
  And then it becomes like a mold or whatever it is, you're
• 1:31:40
  watching it and it blossoms into this kind of a thing and it
• 1:31:43
  grows what it has. It has a lot of time to become
• 1:31:46
  what it is, but America is like you have a Petri dish and you
• 1:31:50
  take this mold that mold this, whatever it is and all these
• 1:31:54
  different influences and you throw them into a Petri dish and
• 1:31:57
  none of them have ever reacted with each other before.
• 1:31:59
  And now it's all brand new. That's what's after happening
• 1:32:02
  here. So like you've got the likes of
• 1:32:03
  Ireland or even Britain, like, you know, like that they, these
• 1:32:06
  places have thousands of years to, to breed culture, to become
• 1:32:11
  what it is as a country. And America in like, eh, but
• 1:32:16
  they, they always talk about how it's, it's 250 years old or
• 1:32:19
  whatever it is. And but like that's not what
• 1:32:21
  it's, it is older. Like since eh, I suppose
• 1:32:24
  Columbus landed. So you were talking like 1500
• 1:32:27
  there, there, there about 1492 Columbus sail the ocean blue.
• 1:32:30
  Yeah, like so like 1500. You think about that within
• 1:32:34
  those, the, the 500, eh, years since Columbus landed there, you
• 1:32:41
  get all these people from all over the world landing there,
• 1:32:46
  but all these different cultures who do not react or do not like
• 1:32:50
  they're, they're, they don't gel together very easily, even like
• 1:32:54
  we've, what we've already been through is like different
• 1:32:56
  versions of Protestantism doesn't gel correctly together.
• 1:33:00
  You get like now Irish people are living beside English people
• 1:33:06
  and no one is better than the other one because they're in
• 1:33:08
  this new nation that is, is coming up and there's conflict
• 1:33:12
  there. And then you get like, they're
• 1:33:14
  after bringing a bunch of slaves over from Africa and now who
• 1:33:17
  have to create their own identity over there in this new
• 1:33:21
  land, You've got indigenous people who are being stripped of
• 1:33:24
  their fucking land and their rights, and they're being
• 1:33:26
  tricked out of everything. And you've got the French are
• 1:33:29
  coming down from the north after fucking.
• 1:33:31
  Yeah, like depleting that place from the fucking there of all
• 1:33:35
  their Beaver pelts. The Spanish are coming up from
• 1:33:37
  the South after fucking there, uh, losing like this fucking war
• 1:33:42
  in Mexico, losing Texas. And then you've got all these
• 1:33:44
  new people are like, they are fucking basically indigenous
• 1:33:48
  slash Spanish people who are now part of America.
• 1:33:51
  And all these people are all like fluting into this one brand
• 1:33:54
  new country. And what, how do you make a
• 1:33:57
  culture out of so many different things without conflict?
• 1:34:00
  You know what I mean? It will, like eventually it will
• 1:34:04
  settle into a culture, but the culture is, as we've seen now,
• 1:34:08
  this kind of crazy amalgamate like, and it's such a massive
• 1:34:13
  landmass, like fucking Florida is completely different than New
• 1:34:16
  York and fucking, you know, and the, the Bible Belt is a
• 1:34:19
  completely different place than fucking, you know, the, the West
• 1:34:22
  Coast or the East Coast. It's this kind of, uh, like
• 1:34:26
  massive place where there's so many different cultures all
• 1:34:30
  coming together and just putting heads in clashing.
• 1:34:32
  And that's why we've got this weird, uh, divided country,
• 1:34:38
  like, and it's not just divided down the middle.
• 1:34:41
  Like the, the easy thing to say is like it's divided between
• 1:34:44
  liberal and, uh, conservative or red and blue.
• 1:34:47
  Like that's the biggest divided up.
• 1:34:49
  But then you go and look at on the ground and you see people,
• 1:34:51
  there's racial divides, there's cultural divides.
• 1:34:55
  You don't see it, but there is class divides because, uh, of
• 1:34:59
  the, uh, massive, uh, gulf with prosperity.
• 1:35:03
  Like you've got people who are on the breadline and people who
• 1:35:06
  like literally have all of the money, like the 1% of people
• 1:35:10
  that have like 99% of the money. And they're in America as well.
• 1:35:13
  And it's just some like it's like in Europe or in Asia and,
• 1:35:20
  and like places like that where culture has kind of bred for
• 1:35:25
  thousands of years. And then you try and throw that
• 1:35:27
  into this one landmass and like see what happens in a few 100
• 1:35:31
  years it's going to get fucked up.
• 1:35:33
  Sorry that was a big rant of. No.
• 1:35:36
  No, no, that's it's, yeah. It's perfect.
• 1:35:38
  It is. It is absolutely perfect.
• 1:35:41
  Umm. And so the facade of religious
• 1:35:44
  purity. Sorry, I just, I actually have
• 1:35:46
  to take a breath after that. You, you did great, sweetie.
• 1:35:50
  You're fine. And so the facade of religious
• 1:35:55
  purity is another common theme that run through the series
• 1:35:58
  because it's used as an armor and a justification for shitty
• 1:36:01
  behavior. So if you listen to any of the
• 1:36:03
  worst American modern politicians and the stewardship,
• 1:36:07
  they'll speak in puritanical ways about their faith and how
• 1:36:10
  only God can judge and save them.
• 1:36:11
  And this is the vestigial tale of the Puritans.
• 1:36:14
  In fact, it is one of many vestigial tales that are
• 1:36:17
  leftover. Like even you see Trump, you see
• 1:36:21
  Trump like trying to get with the, the the Bible tempers in
• 1:36:26
  America, like where he's he's like, I love the Bible.
• 1:36:29
  OK, what's your favorite verse? I love all of them.
• 1:36:32
  You know, he's, he's not religious at all.
• 1:36:34
  But when you get to. Rape, get in favor with them.
• 1:36:36
  I love it all. Yeah.
• 1:36:37
  Yeah, yeah. And I think this is like a huge
• 1:36:40
  fucking thing as well as that, like these people who claim to
• 1:36:43
  be good Christians and like fucking whatever, like they're,
• 1:36:46
  they're terrible people. They're.
• 1:36:48
  Always terrible. Fucking people.
• 1:36:51
  And it's like it's, it's my, my brother alone again.
• 1:36:53
  We bring him up all the time on this podcast, but I, I.
• 1:36:56
  You break them up all the time. I know, but I just have to say
• 1:37:00
  it's people who like find God and who think that they're like
• 1:37:03
  whatever they they find God because they think that there's
• 1:37:07
  this like weird loophole. I'm convinced of this, that they
• 1:37:12
  think that they can act fucking horrible in their day-to-day
• 1:37:15
  lives and then be forgiven magically when they're going.
• 1:37:20
  It doesn't work that way, but I think that's how Christians,
• 1:37:24
  especially in America, tend to live their lives, is that they
• 1:37:27
  just like, if they're doing something and like, OK, and
• 1:37:31
  maybe it might be wrong, but because they're like they
• 1:37:34
  worship God, they'll be forgiven at the end of it.
• 1:37:37
  Yeah, they think Jesus is on their side and like that, that
• 1:37:40
  like they think, they think that Jesus is behind them pushing
• 1:37:42
  them to every little action and that, you know, and I think
• 1:37:45
  that's, that's one thing that like from, from Catholics, we
• 1:37:49
  don't have that to like when you get these, eh, whatever product,
• 1:37:53
  whatever, eh, Protestantism you have like they're kind of think
• 1:37:58
  that like Jesus is going to support everything that they do
• 1:38:01
  because what they're doing is God's plan.
• 1:38:02
  Exactly. And we're Catholics, what we
• 1:38:05
  have is fear and shame. Yeah.
• 1:38:09
  Of God. And that's the difference that
• 1:38:11
  they don't have. First of all, they're Americans.
• 1:38:13
  They don't know what shame is. And they and eh, they don't have
• 1:38:17
  the fear of God like they say. They actually use this line.
• 1:38:20
  They go I'm a God fear an American.
• 1:38:22
  No, you're not. You think that God is.
• 1:38:24
  Oh, you, Oh, God is appalling. All your shitty decisions in
• 1:38:28
  your mind. But the Catholics are spent.
• 1:38:31
  I don't know about the rest of them, but like us Irish Roman
• 1:38:34
  Catholics and who have been kind of downtrodden.
• 1:38:37
  It's all. Shame.
• 1:38:38
  Yeah. Like it's all like we're like we
• 1:38:41
  come into the world with original sin and we're fucking.
• 1:38:44
  We're ashamed of that from the day like we're told, like, you
• 1:38:50
  know, fucking, you know, like you're going to hell unless, and
• 1:38:54
  it's not like God, we're going to get to the king when I die,
• 1:38:57
  I'm going to get to the Kingdom of heaven.
• 1:38:59
  But there's no that's when you die.
• 1:39:00
  You better hope you were good and.
• 1:39:02
  There's there's not anything that you can do that like you're
• 1:39:05
  going to be accepted like, and this is the whole thing of like,
• 1:39:08
  well, there's no guarantee. Well, there's no guarantee.
• 1:39:10
  You can live your life to like the fucking like to a fucking
• 1:39:13
  word for word to the Bible, but there's no guarantee.
• 1:39:17
  And that's the difference, I think.
• 1:39:19
  Either either way, I think that I think you're fucked like like
• 1:39:21
  the Puritans who are who are like, umm, oh, when we, when we
• 1:39:25
  get to the Kingdom of heaven, like, you know, everything's
• 1:39:28
  going to be good like afterwards, like, but that's
• 1:39:30
  what like you've kind of you're you're hedging your bet on that
• 1:39:33
  and you're giving yourself a really shitty life.
• 1:39:35
  Yeah, you know, to hope that you're going to get there.
• 1:39:38
  And then there's also the other side of the kind is like, I
• 1:39:41
  don't believe in anything, so I'm going to be the fucking boy
• 1:39:45
  again, Which I don't. I don't believe that this is the
• 1:39:46
  case because like I'd say I'm like atheist, like I maybe not,
• 1:39:51
  maybe I'm agnostic, I don't know.
• 1:39:52
  I believe there's some kind of cosmic thing out there that is.
• 1:39:55
  The reason why I would say yeah. I don't believe that in any kind
• 1:39:59
  of a God that's sitting on a cloud or anything like that.
• 1:40:02
  Yeah, there's. Nobody.
• 1:40:02
  There's no one absolute fucking being that Dick.
• 1:40:06
  Yeah, you know, yeah, I don't. I don't live my life in a kind
• 1:40:09
  of a hedonistic way. Yeah, because because there's no
• 1:40:14
  rules. Like, like, it's not as if I'm
• 1:40:16
  going to hell. When I do have, it's just
• 1:40:17
  because I like, I have morals because I like, I'm like, I
• 1:40:20
  think. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:40:21
  Being a good person I think is important.
• 1:40:23
  But like, but again, if there is that, if there is someone out
• 1:40:26
  there that's like, there is no God.
• 1:40:28
  I can do whatever the fuck I want and then it turns out there
• 1:40:31
  is a God. You fucked up.
• 1:40:33
  Yeah, like what? Like whatever way you choose to
• 1:40:37
  live your life, we don't know what way it's going to be at the
• 1:40:39
  end of it. Honesty So when it comes to all
• 1:40:42
  of this, and this is like a huge thing like I've had with myself,
• 1:40:45
  obviously, like doing fucking witchcraft stuff, which it does
• 1:40:47
  work, right? I have I've done shit that I
• 1:40:50
  can't explain. We'll say whatever, right?
• 1:40:53
  And you can believe it. You cannot believe it.
• 1:40:55
  That's fine. Whatever.
• 1:40:57
  They're OK, I've no, no, and that's fine.
• 1:41:00
  Like you can't have. That.
• 1:41:01
  I don't care, right? But there have been things where
• 1:41:06
  like I've done shit that I can't explain and I've had shit happen
• 1:41:10
  to me that I can't explain. Like I've done like stay a
• 1:41:12
  fucking money ritual when I've been that fucking desperate that
• 1:41:17
  I needed something and I've had an unexpected refund in my
• 1:41:21
  account the next day. You know what I mean?
• 1:41:23
  Like there's been, there's a lot of shit that you can, you can
• 1:41:26
  probably do, but I look at witchcraft and things like that
• 1:41:29
  as a manipulation of energy, which I think is a lot more
• 1:41:34
  plausible than just being like, well, I asked the man in the sky
• 1:41:37
  to do this for me and then it happened.
• 1:41:40
  No, you can manipulate energy. You can like manifestation is a
• 1:41:44
  very fucking real thing where you say if you can do, you can
• 1:41:46
  basically change the frequency that your mind operates on and
• 1:41:52
  you can basically been you can kind of like move that around.
• 1:41:57
  To Yeah. Suit what you want it to be to
• 1:42:00
  do whatever like it's so fucking powerful to just if you just
• 1:42:03
  believe one thing it can happen and I.
• 1:42:07
  Don't think, tell me this you you'd has a belief in this?
• 1:42:12
  Yeah. What?
• 1:42:13
  What? What's your afterlife game plan
• 1:42:17
  there? I don't have one.
• 1:42:20
  But like, what's the sorry, not the game plan, but what's the
• 1:42:22
  what's the belief? I think we give back to the
• 1:42:25
  Earth and I think maybe it's a little bit of a cycle.
• 1:42:29
  Like I mean, I do, I would like to believe that it's kind of
• 1:42:32
  like reincarnation. I would love to believe that
• 1:42:35
  that is a thing. But also at the same time, like
• 1:42:38
  I kind of like, I'm OK with it just being one and done, you
• 1:42:42
  know, even though I don't think I think there's like it's,
• 1:42:45
  there's so much more. There's so much involved in
• 1:42:49
  everything and going on. Yeah.
• 1:42:50
  Is there a consensus in in there in witchcraft or, or you know
• 1:42:56
  that or? Do you are are you guys like
• 1:42:57
  moving towards your own civil war based on what you believe?
• 1:43:01
  And it does sound like that one because she it does sound like
• 1:43:04
  witches do. There is kind of different weird
• 1:43:07
  sects of. I mean, so I, I practice
• 1:43:11
  demonology, which is different to demonology.
• 1:43:14
  Demonology is a study, umm, of, of demons of demonology is the
• 1:43:20
  worship and the practice, right? That's what I I go by and I
• 1:43:26
  don't know, I just kind of like, I feel like it's a thing where
• 1:43:30
  you just live your life how you want to live it, right?
• 1:43:33
  And if it's like, 'cause no harm, we're fine.
• 1:43:38
  I don't think. I don't think about an
• 1:43:40
  afterlife. I just think about like, what
• 1:43:41
  can I do now in this life to not be a cunt and to basically just
• 1:43:47
  live my life how I want to do it.
• 1:43:50
  Like I don't know if. Puritans would have fucked you.
• 1:43:55
  I know they wouldn't. They.
• 1:43:57
  Wouldn't they would have just heard like any of those words?
• 1:44:00
  They don't know. I know.
• 1:44:02
  Burned at the stake. I know, but I mean I, I, I tag
• 1:44:05
  the yes give one P option when I'm ordering Domino's.
• 1:44:09
  Like they would have fucking hated me for that.
• 1:44:11
  They're just like charity. Fuck this whore like.
• 1:44:17
  I would have thought more about the demons than the charity,
• 1:44:20
  but. Fine.
• 1:44:23
  And so to go back to a point that you briefly mentioned
• 1:44:26
  earlier about like the Puritans and the state or a religion and
• 1:44:29
  a state. Yeah.
• 1:44:30
  So the Puritans believed that the church in the state were
• 1:44:32
  one. So if you cast back to when
• 1:44:35
  we're talking about like their political and religious
• 1:44:37
  maneuverings within the UK that caused the Civil war, they were
• 1:44:40
  all about getting involved in how a country was run and how
• 1:44:42
  they taught a country should be run.
• 1:44:44
  Like they they believed in the like, you know, Christian ethno
• 1:44:49
  state. Essentially, the they believed
• 1:44:51
  that the church in the state were one.
• 1:44:52
  They were foundation of disbelief, which is still seen
• 1:44:55
  across America with Bible bashing politicians on every
• 1:44:58
  level of claiming that they were put there by God and they sleep
• 1:45:01
  with a Bible and a Glock because the apostles were packing baby,
• 1:45:05
  baby. Yeah.
• 1:45:07
  And with this religious salary came came the affirmation
• 1:45:12
  aforementioned Puritan given persecution.
• 1:45:14
  They executed several Quakers just for being Quakers.
• 1:45:18
  And like, Quakers are like puppies like that.
• 1:45:20
  They literally just want good things for people.
• 1:45:22
  They're baby like. They're basically like little
• 1:45:25
  don't like, not automations and retriever puppies.
• 1:45:28
  No, but I, I know Quakers and like they, you know, like
• 1:45:31
  they're peace loving people Like it's, it's, it's about, it's
• 1:45:38
  like, it's about community. And so they just want like good
• 1:45:42
  things for people and they're pacifists.
• 1:45:44
  And the Puritans also hate, hated the Jesuits because of
• 1:45:48
  their originating hatred for all things Catholic.
• 1:45:51
  They like, what they used to do is in their towns, if a Jesuit
• 1:45:55
  came in, you know, just to exist in their town, they would banish
• 1:45:59
  them from the town, and that would be it.
• 1:46:00
  But if that Jesuit came back to the town again, then they were
• 1:46:04
  just like, oh, well, now the sentence is death.
• 1:46:06
  Like, now, now you've gone too far.
• 1:46:08
  We're going to kill you. Yeah.
• 1:46:10
  And when you say this, they they were killed like legally.
• 1:46:16
  Oh, no, not at all. Like, you know, this was, this
• 1:46:18
  was like, you know, extrajudicial kind of kind of
• 1:46:21
  killings. Like they would just murder them
• 1:46:23
  because they were like, you can't be here.
• 1:46:25
  Like this is this is, you know, this is our town.
• 1:46:28
  Like this is not for you filthy Catholics.
• 1:46:30
  You you Jesuits coming in here trying to oppress us.
• 1:46:33
  Yeah. And then, and then they just
• 1:46:36
  murder them. And so the, the Puritans were OK
• 1:46:41
  with the African slave trade because it is a like again,
• 1:46:45
  these are just like certain sects, both sects that like
• 1:46:48
  still 'cause like big problems. So they were OK with the African
• 1:46:52
  slave trade because slavery is a practice in the Bible.
• 1:46:56
  So, you know, that was another theme that runs through to
• 1:46:58
  today. Like modern white Americans will
• 1:46:59
  often justify hatred in their hearts because, quote, it's in
• 1:47:03
  the Bible. The Bible.
• 1:47:05
  They're often misquoting the Bible.
• 1:47:07
  Like I'm stating the fucking obvious here, but they're often
• 1:47:09
  misquoting the Bible, completely misinterpreting it, or plain old
• 1:47:12
  ignoring the parts of it that tell you not to be a cunt.
• 1:47:15
  In some Puritans defense, some of them were very strongly
• 1:47:19
  against slavery and advocated for its abolition.
• 1:47:21
  Yeah, not. All Puritans, Yeah.
• 1:47:24
  Hashtag not all Puritans, yeah? I'm start, I'm starting a new
• 1:47:28
  movement. Yeah, I, I got, I kind of got
• 1:47:30
  into, I got into this a little bit, but like, it's funny, when
• 1:47:33
  I, when I was doing my my research into this, kind of like
• 1:47:38
  again, I got into like so many different tunnels, like for such
• 1:47:43
  a bore and bunch of people like the different kind of tunnels
• 1:47:47
  you can get dragged down. Yeah, from, from this and
• 1:47:50
  obviously with like the the kings all that, but they the
• 1:47:52
  slaveryone kind of got me a little bit like where I I just
• 1:47:56
  hooked me a little bit in because it was like what they
• 1:48:00
  were willing to do for themselves.
• 1:48:04
  Like when they got over there, it's still they didn't practice
• 1:48:08
  what they preached really like. Yeah, it was the the closer to
• 1:48:12
  power they got, yes, the further from God they got yes and
• 1:48:16
  essentially. And again, the team continues to
• 1:48:20
  this day. Yes, yeah.
• 1:48:22
  And so the Puritans influence existed up until like their
• 1:48:26
  heavy influence existed up until the establishment establishments
• 1:48:29
  of the United States of America, but their sway had waned in the
• 1:48:33
  30 years leading up to 1776, but they stuck around and their
• 1:48:36
  influence remained and reached into the 20th century.
• 1:48:39
  So Puritanism, you can say, grew into evangelicalism.
• 1:48:44
  Am I saying that right? Evangelism.
• 1:48:47
  Yeah, Evangelicalism, yeah, That's that's, Yeah, that's also
• 1:48:50
  the word which. Continues and evolves all of the
• 1:48:52
  worst traits as discussed previously.
• 1:48:55
  And so as I mentioned on a previous podcast, this is a nice
• 1:48:59
  phrase that I threw out there is that this has grown into a
• 1:49:02
  modern day crystal fascism, which is just plain old fucking
• 1:49:05
  fascism in Christian clothing and rituals pretty much.
• 1:49:08
  So the current Trump regime is the prime example of this.
• 1:49:12
  It's full of people who claim to be honest God fearing
• 1:49:15
  Christians, but really they're just using that to appear pure
• 1:49:19
  and justify their hatred, racism, intolerance and
• 1:49:22
  xenophobia. All of this traces it's roots
• 1:49:25
  back to the Puritans who arrived on the Mayfair a few 100 years
• 1:49:28
  ago. It is very common to see these
• 1:49:31
  modern freaks with a Bible in one hand and a gun in the other.
• 1:49:34
  Literally they take photos and put this on their fucking
• 1:49:37
  Christmas cards of them and their families with children
• 1:49:41
  holding guns. Nothing says baby Jesus like a
• 1:49:44
  polyester American flag T-shirt made by Asian slaves and an AR15
• 1:49:49
  assault rifle. Man, you've done such a good
• 1:49:52
  job. Like, I'm sorry, but like this
• 1:49:54
  this eh, What you've put together I've.
• 1:49:58
  Been thinking like this for a long time.
• 1:50:00
  Yes, but like, it's, it's such a fucking like tapestry of
• 1:50:05
  absolute bastardry. And what you've put together
• 1:50:08
  here in the North is actually fucking like, really, really
• 1:50:12
  like, I'm really happy with this.
• 1:50:14
  Yeah, yeah. Because like there's, there's
• 1:50:16
  hundreds of years of history that I'm kind of just like I'm
• 1:50:19
  cherry picking things from because like, you know, you can
• 1:50:21
  do, you know, we could do like several hours on, on Henry the
• 1:50:25
  eighth. We could do several hours on the
• 1:50:28
  English Civil War. Like if we're a history podcast,
• 1:50:30
  but you know, we could do like, like there will be an episode on
• 1:50:34
  McCarthyism. There will be an episode on like
• 1:50:39
  you know what was the when they banned all the booze.
• 1:50:41
  I should know this because. Prohibition.
• 1:50:45
  Prohibition, like prohibition, was a bunch of religious
• 1:50:48
  lunatics who managed to get a big influence with the with the
• 1:50:53
  government at the time. And it was like a minority
• 1:50:56
  movement, but somehow through religion and through their
• 1:50:59
  Puritanism, and because it was a bunch of really religious
• 1:51:02
  politicians, they managed to ban alcohol in America in the 20th
• 1:51:07
  century. And that is that like that is
• 1:51:09
  literally just like the line of Puritanism coming up where
• 1:51:13
  they're like, all of society's woes is the fault of alcohol.
• 1:51:17
  And look, they had a point. Like, you know, I, you know,
• 1:51:21
  alcohol has caused a lot of problems.
• 1:51:22
  But like, yeah, yeah, it's just the fact that they managed to
• 1:51:25
  ban it nationwide. And then, like, prohibition is
• 1:51:28
  so funny because they ban it nationwide.
• 1:51:30
  But then there was just this whole industry of people who
• 1:51:33
  like made millions from bootleg and alcohol.
• 1:51:37
  Yeah, and. In the the White House at the
• 1:51:39
  time, you could have a Scotch, you could have a vodka.
• 1:51:42
  Yeah, of course. Because like at anytime there's
• 1:51:45
  this level of control introduced, the elites are still
• 1:51:47
  just like, yeah, we can do whatever we want.
• 1:51:51
  Like, you know, all alcohol is banned.
• 1:51:52
  Well, we have all the alcohol now.
• 1:51:55
  Yeah, like even when the listed probation.
• 1:51:57
  Piercer is the The is a really good kind of.
• 1:52:01
  Set the train. Yes.
• 1:52:02
  So it's like a really good kind of metaphorical example of like
• 1:52:06
  a class systems and how like the the.
• 1:52:10
  Yeah, each car is a different exactly like the higher cast
• 1:52:14
  almost. Exactly like that.
• 1:52:16
  The higher you you, you move off the train, the the, the more eh
• 1:52:20
  kind of indulgence there is and the more kind of you get away
• 1:52:23
  with that kind of stuff. But yeah, like, it just like
• 1:52:26
  each thing that I kind of brushed over, you can do so much
• 1:52:31
  on. And like, I have a list of
• 1:52:32
  things that I want to do episodes on and, you know, just
• 1:52:36
  like leading up to like, you know, like I think you guys have
• 1:52:40
  done the Curse of the Kennedys. But like, you know, they're
• 1:52:42
  like, they weren't like, you know, like a religious thing.
• 1:52:46
  Like they were like Catholics. Catholics, yeah.
• 1:52:49
  But like the. Did they got they got there
• 1:52:51
  despite the Catholicism, I think.
• 1:52:54
  Yeah, I think that was definitely like a very much like
• 1:52:58
  a. It was something else, like.
• 1:53:00
  But it was like, that was one of those things were like Ireland
• 1:53:03
  is like so proud of the fact that like, eh, like it was
• 1:53:06
  Kennedy's grandfather who left Wexford, went over to America
• 1:53:09
  and two generations later we we had a president of America.
• 1:53:15
  It was. Ross, of all places.
• 1:53:17
  Kennedy's Kennedy's Alpha Joe Kennedy.
• 1:53:21
  Yeah, Joe. Joe.
• 1:53:22
  Was it the grandfather or the dad?
• 1:53:23
  No, no. So the grandfather.
• 1:53:25
  Was the grandfather. Yeah, but his father was like
• 1:53:28
  Joe. Was a maniac.
• 1:53:30
  So he, yeah, like so he had whatever, whatever the the thing
• 1:53:35
  that was in the Kennedys. This kind of risk taking.
• 1:53:39
  Yeah. Not I won't say our hungry boy.
• 1:53:42
  Like I think Joel was power hungry for his sons were more or
• 1:53:46
  less kind of just like they would do anything to impress the
• 1:53:48
  batter. Like we've done a whole episode.
• 1:53:50
  Yeah, but like. Because like.
• 1:53:52
  It was just, it was, it wasn't for them.
• 1:53:55
  It wasn't religion. It was awkwardly mobile.
• 1:53:58
  And also this stuff that there was a lot of inside trading.
• 1:54:01
  They got the money like that got them influence as well.
• 1:54:05
  So like they, they were basically rigging the system to
• 1:54:09
  get ahead. And the fact that there was a
• 1:54:13
  Catholic president of the United States of America says a lot for
• 1:54:17
  the Kennedys themselves and their will to push past and to
• 1:54:21
  kind of eh, really like bolster favor true like these massive
• 1:54:29
  kind of deals and stuff like that.
• 1:54:30
  So like, yeah, it but it's actually crazy to think that
• 1:54:34
  there was a Catholic, eh, president of America because of
• 1:54:39
  exactly everything that you've just said today with their
• 1:54:42
  Puritans and how the Protestants and the Christians these eh,
• 1:54:48
  what is brilliant to say? Crystal Crystal fascist.
• 1:54:51
  Crystal Fascism. Absolutely brilliant, by the
• 1:54:53
  way. And but like, these guys have
• 1:54:55
  such a grip on American politics that like the fact that the
• 1:54:59
  Kennedys. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:55:00
  But like, that was one of those things that Republicanism really
• 1:55:04
  fucking worked at the time because it was like, OK, let's
• 1:55:06
  put this out to a vault. And there was no amount of spin
• 1:55:09
  that could have got people and not vote for John Kennedy
• 1:55:12
  because, yeah, JFK had like obvious.
• 1:55:16
  Choice like. He was just beloved by the.
• 1:55:19
  Nation, he was the American dream as well like you know,
• 1:55:21
  America as a country was like long established, but like, you
• 1:55:23
  know, he he was the personification of the
• 1:55:26
  acceptable American dream in that he's a white European.
• 1:55:29
  Yeah, what? European Who you know he fought
• 1:55:32
  for. He fought for America.
• 1:55:33
  He's a son of an immigrant who came over, yes.
• 1:55:36
  Not a spot to piss in. Handsome.
• 1:55:38
  As well like I mean for. That time and yeah, charming and
• 1:55:42
  also like just like on JFK. Like I know you guys talked
• 1:55:44
  about the Kennedy's before, but like JFK when you look at his
• 1:55:46
  speech, always wanted to talk about you.
• 1:55:48
  Look at him. Like he was he was so like he
• 1:55:52
  was such a statesman and he was he was a great, like public
• 1:55:56
  speaker. His speech writers were great
• 1:55:58
  hit the way he delivered them were great.
• 1:55:59
  Like I was I, I'm, I'm obsessed with the the moon landings and
• 1:56:03
  the like upcoming attempt to get back to the moon with the
• 1:56:06
  Artemis rockets is like, you know, it's like porn to me.
• 1:56:09
  Yes, but I was watching, I was watching like a documentary
• 1:56:11
  about Apollo 1 recently and that's the one where they got
• 1:56:15
  like burned alive in the capsule during like a test run.
• 1:56:18
  And you know, it did all of these documentaries.
• 1:56:21
  They play the JFK speech. You know, we do it because it's.
• 1:56:24
  Hard, yeah. We choose not to go to the moon
• 1:56:27
  because it is easy. We don't because it's fun.
• 1:56:30
  It's so ahead, you know, go to the moon.
• 1:56:32
  It's hell. We'll go to the moon and, you
• 1:56:34
  know, like it's, you know, you watch a speech and.
• 1:56:37
  I got a number. How about them apples?
• 1:56:39
  I'm going to the moon. Is he from Long Island now?
• 1:56:44
  Not Boston, sorry. No, that was that was Long
• 1:56:47
  Island. No, I've lived on Long Island.
• 1:56:49
  Long Island is more nasally. You got to be like, I'm going to
• 1:56:52
  the moon to show you who's boss. So thus ends our first trip into
• 1:57:00
  the world of what is wrong with America, the first of many
• 1:57:03
  concurrent psychosis that have shaped, molded, and destroyed
• 1:57:07
  that country. Well said.
• 1:57:09
  Here, here this. This was really good, really
• 1:57:13
  interesting. And for me it's, it's funny
• 1:57:16
  because I again, like I said when I was researching, like so
• 1:57:20
  many, like I've been, oh, there's a podcast with the
• 1:57:22
  pilgrims. I listen to it.
• 1:57:23
  Rabbit hole after rabbit. Hole, but like I've gotten into
• 1:57:26
  like I've like one of them today I had to switch off was like
• 1:57:29
  these eh conservative and eh guys who wanted to bring
• 1:57:36
  puritanism back like they were like.
• 1:57:38
  Oh God, we. Want to, eh, we want a church
• 1:57:42
  state. And it was like, oh, did they
• 1:57:44
  think that? Well, the liberals, what the
• 1:57:46
  liberals think that we want to do is impose our power on the
• 1:57:50
  country. And that's not what we want to
• 1:57:52
  do. That's what they're doing.
• 1:57:53
  That's what the liberals are doing right now.
• 1:57:55
  And I'm like, well, why do you want?
• 1:57:57
  Why do you want power then? Exactly.
• 1:57:59
  Yeah, it's, it's that, it's that thing of like, you know, they,
• 1:58:02
  they want to oppress and and then if, if anyone what, that
• 1:58:07
  they disagree with, if anyone they disagree with.
• 1:58:11
  Where are we at? What is just doing?
• 1:58:13
  I don't know. I don't.
• 1:58:14
  Want to get? Anything.
• 1:58:15
  I'm sorry. What?
• 1:58:16
  What's going on? I'm scared.
• 1:58:18
  Sorry, I just see. I just see Ocean did something
• 1:58:20
  and I had I. Did that by accident it.
• 1:58:22
  Worked for me and you know what I had to say he.
• 1:58:24
  Has something to say and it's bouncing and.
• 1:58:26
  I'm like push, push the little hand, push the little hand on
• 1:58:29
  the thing a little, yeah. That's doing it.
• 1:58:32
  There you go. Ah, OK.
• 1:58:34
  Yes, this is terrible for an an audio eh thing.
• 1:58:37
  So what you're saying? I can't remember, so let's just
• 1:58:42
  cut that out. Yeah, but this has been there.
• 1:58:51
  This has been great because again, I've like I've gone from
• 1:58:55
  fucking. I went, I said fucker, I'm going
• 1:58:58
  to go all into this and I've spent like days Yeah, because I
• 1:59:02
  like again. Maybe I will get the notes from
• 1:59:05
  now on because this is the first time that I've been like, OK, I
• 1:59:11
  need when you were like, give me your e-mail address so I can
• 1:59:15
  send you to notice. I was like, OK, I'm going to
• 1:59:16
  have to take these notes because this is such a vast kind of a
• 1:59:19
  thing. It's not just like, OK, learn
• 1:59:22
  about the Salem witch trails. It's like when you say the word
• 1:59:24
  pilgrims, this goes back. It's.
• 1:59:28
  Yeah, it goes back to like, yes, so how like this goes back to
• 1:59:31
  fucking, like looter nailing fucking to a door.
• 1:59:36
  So like, yeah, when, when, when you have to go from fucking like
• 1:59:40
  Lutheran fucking practices in Germany all the way through
• 1:59:44
  like. To modern day, like, yeah.
• 1:59:46
  Civil wars, Yeah. Then fucking the Netherlands.
• 1:59:50
  Yes. Then over to America.
• 1:59:51
  Over to America and like and all the time, like you're hearing
• 1:59:56
  different points of views from different people about this.
• 1:59:58
  When I'm listening to this, I'm listening to like English.
• 2:00:03
  Eh, the English point of view, I'm listening to Americans
• 2:00:06
  talking about it. And you get like all these
• 2:00:09
  different casts of, of characters that you hear like,
• 2:00:11
  you know, like Cromwell, eh, Walter Rally and, you know, John
• 2:00:16
  Smith and John White, eh? And your man, what was his name?
• 2:00:21
  Gorgeous. There was one guy there that was
• 2:00:23
  Fernando Gorgeous or eh, I think it was called, as what they call
• 2:00:26
  him Gorgeous. And eh, I was.
• 2:00:28
  A wrestler if I've ever heard of.
• 2:00:29
  Her yeah sounds. Like a boy.
• 2:00:31
  Fernando Gorge, there's all these like cast of characters.
• 2:00:34
  Then obviously I fell down a Roanoke at Jamestown, like these
• 2:00:40
  settlements. The fact that like they were
• 2:00:42
  looking at Guyana as a as a place to settle as well.
• 2:00:46
  And I was like like a pinball. I was like, so interested in all
• 2:00:50
  this kind of stuff. Like I'm really looking forward
• 2:00:52
  to like, and obviously we're not going to do this like America
• 2:00:56
  next week in America the week after, an American week after.
• 2:00:58
  Because this is going to be like every few episodes we'll.
• 2:01:01
  Show it in here and there, like next week we'll get back to
• 2:01:04
  we'll probably know what I was just thinking Danny, we might
• 2:01:06
  get into to eh, if you want to do 1 of yours if you do a Danny
• 2:01:10
  episode and and go down some airy ferry.
• 2:01:13
  But I was thinking something something, eh?
• 2:01:15
  Like I've heard some really interesting stuff about Lilith.
• 2:01:20
  I'd love to do that. So I think Lilith would be a
• 2:01:23
  good one if you again, I don't know, I'm just springing that on
• 2:01:26
  on now. Like what?
• 2:01:28
  Umm. I know I would love to do that.
• 2:01:29
  So the whole hierarchy of like, uh, Lilith and uh, basically
• 2:01:34
  like Lucifer and his, uh, he had X amount of wives.
• 2:01:38
  All right, save. Save for next.
• 2:01:39
  Week. Yeah, I wasn't.
• 2:01:40
  Going. To go into it, I just met like
• 2:01:45
  there. She was there's.
• 2:01:46
  A lot. No, it wasn't.
• 2:01:46
  There's a lot that we can talk about, umm, especially with her
• 2:01:50
  so. Yeah, just just so like we
• 2:01:52
  don't, we don't blow our beans on this America thing because
• 2:01:55
  again, it's so fascinating and I've like I've gotten away with
• 2:02:00
  like the selkie thing was kind of a lot very justy.
• 2:02:04
  And the same Brendan, I think, was very justy.
• 2:02:06
  Our editor Alex, our beloved, who makes this whole thing
• 2:02:10
  possible. He has a gripe with you, Justy
• 2:02:14
  for making Yeah, apparently his ex-girlfriend has the same name
• 2:02:20
  as as the main the main female character of the story that
• 2:02:27
  you've written. And the the daughter because the
• 2:02:31
  circle, it was never named. So yeah.
• 2:02:33
  Yeah, he's he's basically just like, well, this makes me not
• 2:02:37
  want to edit your podcast ever again, so apologize to.
• 2:02:40
  Alex, Oh if Alex, if you could just send me a list of people
• 2:02:44
  you've booked, I'll try and not put them into any stories.
• 2:02:49
  And I. Was just like, wow.
• 2:02:50
  I don't know. I was listening Irish.
• 2:02:52
  Women. And he was like, no.
• 2:02:55
  Yeah, he's right. He's right.
• 2:02:57
  You know he is. Yeah, he is, yeah.
• 2:02:59
  But he's like, yeah, you're, you're, you're to blame in in
• 2:03:01
  the fact. Sorry, Alex.
• 2:03:03
  Sorry. It's.
• 2:03:03
  Difficult for him to edit that episode, but umm yeah.
• 2:03:06
  Some trauma would actually as well as he actually put some
• 2:03:10
  effort into that story. So I imagine that he would have
• 2:03:13
  to have listened to that a little bit.
• 2:03:15
  Extras or Sorry I didn't listen to it.
• 2:03:16
  Did he put any music behind it? I didn't listen to it.
• 2:03:21
  He was. He was supposed to.
• 2:03:23
  Did you listen to it? I didn't.
• 2:03:25
  I never listen to it. He must be about a bunch of
• 2:03:27
  things, but to do with the podcast, I'm like, I don't care.
• 2:03:32
  She's. Crazy.
• 2:03:34
  OK, just just bring us home. Well, now that Danny has said
• 2:03:39
  she doesn't give a fuck about this, how many Danny, we.
• 2:03:42
  How many N words do you want me to edit out?
• 2:03:44
  I'm like Jesus. We need to timestamp whatever
• 2:03:48
  Danny says the N word man. Like this thick.
• 2:03:50
  Oh, she hasn't been here for that joke.
• 2:03:53
  But basically like we were, I had a conversation with Alex
• 2:03:56
  ages ago and we referenced this a few times the podcast.
• 2:03:59
  Whereas basically he was like, Oh yeah, he only, he only said
• 2:04:01
  the N word twice in this episode.
• 2:04:04
  And so the whole thing is like, I get so drunk when we're
• 2:04:06
  recording. He's like, I never, I never said
• 2:04:10
  I never, I've never said that. But no, this is a joke that me
• 2:04:13
  and Alex have that he's basically like, he could
• 2:04:16
  blackmail me and say, I'm going to drop all the episodes where
• 2:04:19
  you say the N word and I'd be like, yeah, OK, cool, fine,
• 2:04:23
  here's the money. Because I get so drunk that I
• 2:04:25
  forget what I've said. And he's like, no, you've never
• 2:04:28
  said the word. I was like, well, you could tell
• 2:04:30
  me that. I feel like fair enough.
• 2:04:33
  I just want people. I just want people to know she's
• 2:04:37
  never actually said the N word. I've never said it and I've been
• 2:04:40
  here and sober every time. But Alex is basically when I
• 2:04:44
  could tell you that you said the N word like.
• 2:04:47
  And you would believe it. And I would believe it because I
• 2:04:49
  got so drunk that I'm like, yeah, OK.
• 2:04:51
  And she also has that personality type.
• 2:04:53
  And he said like. You would have to like I usually
• 2:04:56
  I could. I could probably convince you
• 2:04:58
  that you need to issue an apology and you would do it.
• 2:05:02
  And I'm like, yeah, I probably would.
• 2:05:04
  Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to hear Danny say the
• 2:05:07
  N words and join. The.
• 2:05:10
  Patreon Join the Patreon. I don't know if you want to
• 2:05:13
  contact us for any complaints, just leave a leave a comment
• 2:05:17
  underneath this on Spotify. Oceanoceanburn@hotmail.com He
• 2:05:23
  will take all of the complaints. I think it's
• 2:05:26
  oceanburn6969@hotmail.com of course.
• 2:05:31
  So next week we can look forward to a, to Danny talking about
• 2:05:35
  demons or or some shit. But this week I've absolutely
• 2:05:40
  fucking loved. I hope if you are out there
• 2:05:42
  listening to this and this was all Ocean, you can thank him if
• 2:05:48
  you were offended by anything. Also Ocean, ladies, bro, ladies
• 2:05:54
  and gentlemen. She's been Danny, he's been
• 2:05:59
  Ocean. I've been justy.
• 2:06:01
  Thank you for hanging out with us for a spell.
• 2:06:05
  Love you all.