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- 0:01Speaker 1: From the principal Toyota Studios, it's Morning in Memphis with
- 0:06Speaker 1: Todd Starnes.
- 0:09Speaker 2: And good morning. Welcome to Starnes Country. Wait a second.
- 0:12Speaker 2: I'm not Todd Starnes. I'm John Covington. Today, welcome to
- 0:15Speaker 2: Covington County. You know, Helen, I wasn't crazy about that opening.
- 0:19Speaker 2: I'm sure we can fix it because this is being taped, right?
- 0:21Speaker 2: What do you mean it's live? I wasn't told it
- 0:26Speaker 2: was going to be live. Anyway, yeah, so I'm filling
- 0:28Speaker 2: in today and me and... Wrestling out of parts unknown,
- 0:32Speaker 2: Helen Hazard is on the mic over there pushing all
- 0:36Speaker 2: the buttons. So if there's any mistakes made, I'm going
- 0:38Speaker 2: to preemptively blame them on Helen because I'm just a talent. Anyway,
- 0:42Speaker 2: it's a true pleasure to be here. You know, yesterday
- 0:45Speaker 2: the kids took over the Gen C. How did that go, Helen?
- 0:48Speaker 2: Did you enjoy yourself?
- 0:49Speaker 1: It went well.
- 0:50Speaker 3: Todd was downstairs, you know, strapped up screaming, please give
- 0:54Speaker 3: me back the mic. But, you know, we weren't fired.
- 0:57Speaker 3: So that's good.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you, I listened. I thought you
- 1:00Speaker 2: guys did a great job and you had a great
- 1:02Speaker 2: call in guest, which was me, which I'm a big
- 1:05Speaker 2: fan of. And so it went well, but still, you know,
- 1:08Speaker 2: Todd reached out and he said, you know what, we
- 1:09Speaker 2: need some parental supervision. So he said he looked and
- 1:13Speaker 2: I want to call a mature adult, insightful, wise, thoughtful,
- 1:17Speaker 2: and he couldn't get in touch with that person. So
- 1:19Speaker 2: he called me and I was more than happy to
- 1:22Speaker 2: fill in, even though Helen, as I talked about, It's
- 1:25Speaker 2: been a long week for me, and I took today off,
- 1:27Speaker 2: but then I broke the news to my wife. Well,
- 1:29Speaker 2: I'll be getting up at 3 o'clock in the morning
- 1:32Speaker 2: or whatever it is to come in and prepare for this.
- 1:34Speaker 2: But I'm powered by, and I'm not ashamed to say it,
- 1:37Speaker 2: pistachio latte. Not the most manly of drinks, but it
- 1:41Speaker 2: is delicious. Helen, what's your drink of choice to get
- 1:44Speaker 2: you going in the morning?
- 1:45Speaker 3: I'm usually a vanilla latte person, but when I go
- 1:50Speaker 3: to Starbucks, sometimes I do the modifications.
- 1:54Speaker 1: Which the workers hate.
- 1:56Speaker 2: Yes, everybody hates that. You've got to make a decision.
- 1:59Speaker 2: You've got to be bold. Come on now.
- 2:01Speaker 3: I'm like extra whipped cream. I want Java chips. Oh,
- 2:04Speaker 3: and change this to oat milk. I'm the worst one.
- 2:07Speaker 3: They don't like to see my car coming in the driveway.
- 2:09Speaker 2: Well, my drink choice sounds more and more manly all
- 2:12Speaker 2: the time compared to yours, so thank you for that.
- 2:14Speaker 2: We're going to cover a lot today. I recently took
- 2:17Speaker 2: a trip to Washington, D.C., and I'm going to get
- 2:21Speaker 2: into a Victims of Violent Crime conference at a day
- 2:25Speaker 2: honoring the parents and the victims of violent crime. We'll
- 2:28Speaker 2: talk about that. I want to talk about immigration, and
- 2:31Speaker 2: also this is the one-year anniversary, as we know, of
- 2:34Speaker 2: the task force. I wrote an op-ed about it yesterday.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Let me tell you, Helen, I made some liberals upset,
- 2:39Speaker 2: a lot of mean comments, but it's typical. It didn't
- 2:43Speaker 2: appear to me that anybody actually read my piece, which
- 2:47Speaker 2: was all fact-based, but, you know, They went on a motion,
- 2:50Speaker 2: but I'm okay. I've got a thick skin.
- 2:52Speaker 1: That's good.
- 2:52Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 2:53Speaker 2: So that's what I do. So anyway, I do want
- 2:55Speaker 2: to get into something a little bit serious. As I say,
- 3:00Speaker 2: last week I attended the Attorney General's Summit on Victims
- 3:03Speaker 2: of Violent Crime. And it was also, that was the
- 3:07Speaker 2: first day. And the next day was National Day of
- 3:09Speaker 2: Remembrance for Murder Victims. The reason I was up there,
- 3:13Speaker 2: Officer Rusty McKinney back in 2024 lost his life in
- 3:17Speaker 2: a line of duty. Memphis police officer, a true hero.
- 3:22Speaker 2: And his mom was going up to D.C. She was
- 3:25Speaker 2: invited to this summit and to the Day of Remembrance.
- 3:29Speaker 2: And so my organization, the MPA, we. The time she's
- 3:35Speaker 2: gone up there, one of us goes with her to
- 3:37Speaker 2: take care of all the she's not going to pay
- 3:40Speaker 2: for anything. We're going to handle everything and make sure
- 3:42Speaker 2: it's a smooth. trip for her. So I was up
- 3:44Speaker 2: there with her in support of her. And she's a wonderful,
- 3:47Speaker 2: wonderful woman and has become a very dear friend. But
- 3:51Speaker 2: it was it was a powerful thing to be up
- 3:53Speaker 2: there talking about these things. And I got to meet
- 3:56Speaker 2: the attorney general, Todd Blanche, Tom Holman, the White House
- 4:00Speaker 2: border czar, Kash Patel, director of the FBI and some
- 4:03Speaker 2: of the leaders. And let me tell you, they were impressive.
- 4:06Speaker 2: They were impressive. You can go to and I'll post
- 4:09Speaker 2: the link and Helen, I'll give you the link. People
- 4:12Speaker 2: can go watch the whole conference, and I hope they do,
- 4:15Speaker 2: because you had parents, everything from parents who lost children
- 4:19Speaker 2: to illegal immigration, people coming in, criminals, to in one case,
- 4:28Speaker 2: a father lost his daughter, somebody had been arrested multiple times,
- 4:33Speaker 2: well over 20. It was still on the streets. And
- 4:36Speaker 2: then also cases of fentanyl coming into this country. And
- 4:40Speaker 2: it was really... really moving. So in fact, I have
- 4:45Speaker 2: a couple of clips. And sitting in the room, you know,
- 4:49Speaker 2: people can talk about the immigration debate, which we're going
- 4:51Speaker 2: to get into some of the segment in the next
- 4:53Speaker 2: and how that goes. But hearing a mother speaking through
- 4:57Speaker 2: her sobs about losing a child as a result of
- 5:00Speaker 2: the crisis on the border under the Biden administration, and
- 5:04Speaker 2: thank God Trump has come in and taken it serious.
- 5:07Speaker 2: He declared it a national emergency on his first day
- 5:09Speaker 2: in office, and we've started to really clean it up.
- 5:12Speaker 2: but we're still paying the price or the folks paid
- 5:15Speaker 2: the price back at that time for our basically open border.
- 5:20Speaker 2: So Helen, if you could play, this is the first clip.
- 5:23Speaker 2: This is the mother of a young lady called Sheridan Gorman,
- 5:27Speaker 2: who was tragically killed. So Sheridan, if you could play
- 5:31Speaker 2: that first clip for us.
- 5:33Speaker 4: Legal immigration gives. It brings talent and work, ethics, traditions, ideas,
- 5:40Speaker 4: dreams into our American story. But illegal immigration, it takes,
- 5:45Speaker 4: it steals our resources, our security, and sometimes, as families
- 5:52Speaker 4: in this room know all too well, it steals lives.
- 5:56Speaker 4: Thousands of Americans have been murdered by illegal immigrants. You
- 6:00Speaker 4: don't hear about them. Well, on March 19th, danger came
- 6:06Speaker 4: from my child. Our 18-year-old daughter, Sheridan, walked onto a
- 6:12Speaker 4: pier near Loyola, Chicago, the college she went to with friends,
- 6:18Speaker 4: hoping just to see the northern lights. It was the
- 6:20Speaker 4: first clear night in a long time in Chicago. They
- 6:24Speaker 4: were just kids looking for fun and something beautiful in
- 6:27Speaker 4: the sky. But Sheridan never got to see those lights
- 6:32Speaker 4: because she was hunted in the dark. She ran for
- 6:35Speaker 4: her life and made it only 40 feet before being
- 6:39Speaker 4: shot in the back. Far from home, cold and scared,
- 6:45Speaker 4: my daughter died alone, bloody and broken on that concrete pier.
- 6:51Speaker 4: And the man charged with killing my Sheridan had entered
- 6:54Speaker 4: the United States unlawfully during the Biden administration. He was
- 7:01Speaker 4: apprehended at the border and released under their open border fiasco.
- 7:07Speaker 4: even though he had no valid asylum claim. And then,
- 7:12Speaker 4: after a later theft arrest in Sanctuary City of Chicago,
- 7:17Speaker 4: that Sanctuary City did not notify ICE or transfer him
- 7:21Speaker 4: to immigration custody. This man was released right back out
- 7:25Speaker 4: onto the street. And surprise, surprise, he failed to appear
- 7:31Speaker 4: at court. So there was a warrant put out for
- 7:34Speaker 4: his arrest and deportation. But again, Chicago did not.
- 7:37Speaker 2: We get it was powerful and it was it was
- 7:41Speaker 2: tough to hear her speak like that. And according to Helen,
- 7:45Speaker 2: are we coming up on a on a break very soon?
- 7:47Speaker 2: Is that what I'm to understand?
- 7:49Speaker 3: I was giving you the 30 seconds for the clip.
- 7:52Speaker 2: Oh, OK. See, there we go. Thank God Helen's with
- 7:56Speaker 2: me because I have a whole time sheet here. But no,
- 7:58Speaker 2: sitting in that room, it was impossible not to be moved.
- 8:01Speaker 3: There were.
- 8:01Speaker 2: Tears streaming down my face and at many of the
- 8:04Speaker 2: people in the room. It was tough and it took
- 8:07Speaker 2: away kind of the abstractions of illegal immigration and brought
- 8:13Speaker 2: you home to the stark reality. The fact that the
- 8:16Speaker 2: border was basically wide open and people were not vetted
- 8:20Speaker 2: and allowed to come into this country. And then you
- 8:21Speaker 2: had sanctuary cities, which in this case was Chicago. You
- 8:25Speaker 2: had this violent person actually had a warrant at the time.
- 8:28Speaker 2: As she talked about, Sheridan, as the mom talked about,
- 8:30Speaker 2: Sheridan and her friends went down to see the Northern
- 8:33Speaker 2: Lights and see the skyline and take pictures. And a
- 8:36Speaker 2: masked man approached them armed with a weapon and they ran,
- 8:41Speaker 2: as anybody would do in a situation like that. And
- 8:44Speaker 2: he fired and killed Sheridan, shot her in the back.
- 8:48Speaker 2: And she said she died on that pier alone. Her
- 8:51Speaker 2: friends had run off and when they came back, they
- 8:53Speaker 2: found her. And it was just, it was painful and
- 8:56Speaker 2: it took away As I say, it's no longer just statistics.
- 9:01Speaker 2: It's a real tragedy. But I want to talk a
- 9:05Speaker 2: lot more about that when we get back. But we're
- 9:08Speaker 2: heading towards a break, and we'll get traffic with Commander Chuck,
- 9:11Speaker 2: and then we'll touch base on this and dive a
- 9:14Speaker 2: little bit deeper. And welcome back to the show. This
- 9:20Speaker 2: is the Todd Starnes Country Podcast. radio show program. I'm
- 9:25Speaker 2: not Todd Starnes, obviously. I'm John Covington filling in, and
- 9:28Speaker 2: we're broadcasting today out of the Principal Toyota Memphis studio.
- 9:31Speaker 2: And if you'd like to weigh in, give your thoughts,
- 9:33Speaker 2: please give us a call at 901-260-5926. That's 901-260-5926. Okay,
- 9:43Speaker 2: so we were talking about immigration, but I was checking
- 9:47Speaker 2: my notes, and I do want to touch on one
- 9:49Speaker 2: thing before I go a little bit further than that.
- 9:51Speaker 2: I talked about taking that trip up to D.C. to
- 9:53Speaker 2: support the mother of a fallen hero, Rusty McKinney, who
- 9:56Speaker 2: gave his life in the line of duty for the
- 9:58Speaker 2: city of Memphis. And I'm not sure how many people
- 10:02Speaker 2: realize what we owe these young men and women who
- 10:06Speaker 2: go out and protect the city. I'm not going to
- 10:10Speaker 2: lie to you, folks. Memphis is a dangerous place to police,
- 10:14Speaker 2: is actually tied as the most dangerous place to police
- 10:17Speaker 2: with Detroit, Michigan. So Here's some numbers. In the last
- 10:21Speaker 2: five years, Memphis has lost nine officers to line of
- 10:24Speaker 2: duty deaths, as has Detroit. Now, current estimates of Memphis
- 10:29Speaker 2: population is 602,000. Detroit is 649,000. So we're basically the same.
- 10:31Speaker 2: We both lost nine. Staggering, staggering numbers. As in comparison, Chicago,
- 10:34Speaker 2: which has 2.7 million, has lost 11. Los Angeles, that's
- 10:36Speaker 2: got 3.9 million, has lost 10. Houston, 2.4 million has
- 10:51Speaker 2: lost seven. Excuse me. And Philadelphia with 1.6 million has
- 10:56Speaker 2: lost nine. Again, it's a staggering number. And so, you know,
- 11:00Speaker 2: when we say we back the blue, I pat these
- 11:03Speaker 2: young men and women on the back. Just remember the
- 11:06Speaker 2: risk that they take from walking out, putting that badge on,
- 11:12Speaker 2: leaving their own families at home and risking it all
- 11:15Speaker 2: on the streets to make this city safer and better
- 11:19Speaker 2: and I salute them. True, true heroes. Anyway, so as before,
- 11:25Speaker 2: we were talking about immigration. Helen, how are you on
- 11:30Speaker 2: your medieval fortification background? Are you up on that?
- 11:35Speaker 1: I can't say I'm well-versed.
- 11:36Speaker 2: Well, you can't say you're well-versed. Well, that's disappointing. You know,
- 11:39Speaker 2: this whole, this new generation doesn't know about medieval fortifications.
- 11:43Speaker 2: And why do I bring that up? I bring it
- 11:45Speaker 2: up because the immigration debate is such a moving target.
- 11:51Speaker 2: And those of us who want safe borders, it's not
- 11:56Speaker 2: that we're, we welcome immigrants, but they need to come
- 11:59Speaker 2: here legally. They need to follow the rules. And, you know,
- 12:02Speaker 2: that's a long process we ask these folks to go
- 12:05Speaker 2: through to become citizens, and rightly so. You know, we
- 12:09Speaker 2: want to know who they are, their background, all these things.
- 12:12Speaker 2: But These days, it seems like if you make a case,
- 12:16Speaker 2: and I'm going to come back to the medieval fortifications,
- 12:18Speaker 2: so put a pin on that, Helen. I hadn't forgotten.
- 12:22Speaker 2: So if you want to make a case for enforcing
- 12:23Speaker 2: immigration law, the argument shifts very quickly. Call for a
- 12:27Speaker 2: secure border and you're hit with America is a nation
- 12:30Speaker 2: of immigrants. Well, duh. That's a fact. If you try
- 12:34Speaker 2: to distinguish between legal and illegal immigration, you're told, wait
- 12:39Speaker 2: a second, immigrants built America.
- 12:42Speaker 3: Well, duh. Yeah.
- 12:44Speaker 2: That is also a fact. Say someone here illegally who
- 12:47Speaker 2: commits a violent crime should be deported, and suddenly you're, dun, dun, dun, anti-immigrant.
- 12:53Speaker 2: There's a trick that just took place. The subject shifts
- 12:57Speaker 2: while you're debating, and there's a name for this. It's
- 12:59Speaker 2: called the Mott and Bailey argument. Did that ring a bell, Helen?
- 13:04Speaker 1: That rang a bell.
- 13:05Speaker 2: Did it really?
- 13:06Speaker 1: Yes, I definitely heard that.
- 13:09Speaker 2: That's pretty good. I'm very impressed. I have hope for
- 13:11Speaker 2: the next generation. And so this term comes from medieval fortifications.
- 13:17Speaker 2: The Bailey was the difficult, difficult to defend position while
- 13:21Speaker 2: the Mott was the fortified position to which defenders retreated.
- 13:25Speaker 2: So Bailey's difficult to defend. The Mott is easier to
- 13:29Speaker 2: defend or easy in debate. The maneuver is simple to
- 13:33Speaker 2: defend the controversial position until challenged and then retreat to something.
- 13:38Speaker 2: Almost everyone accepts, right? So, They hit you with arguments like, well,
- 13:45Speaker 2: America is a nation of immigrants. Immigrants built this country.
- 13:47Speaker 2: You're anti-immigrant. The argument we're making– so the mod is
- 13:53Speaker 2: America is a nation of immigrants. Immigration has enriched this country,
- 13:57Speaker 2: which is obvious, but that's not the argument. The question
- 14:00Speaker 2: is whether America has the right and the will to
- 14:02Speaker 2: decide who enters, under what condition, and who gets to remain. So,
- 14:07Speaker 2: you know– They shift the argument, and I drive into work,
- 14:12Speaker 2: and you see these folks waving their signs. They're, you know,
- 14:15Speaker 2: and it's Sam Cooper, and, you know, God bless them.
- 14:18Speaker 2: You know, this is America. You have a right, you know,
- 14:21Speaker 2: to get out and wave your signs of what you
- 14:23Speaker 2: believe in as long as you do it legally and peacefully.
- 14:25Speaker 2: But they all say, I support immigrants. Stop immigrant hate.
- 14:29Speaker 2: This is not what it's about. It's just wanting it
- 14:33Speaker 2: to be done properly and legally. And, you know, the
- 14:37Speaker 2: story of Sheridan Gorman, the bottom line is, That young
- 14:40Speaker 2: lady would still be alive if we had followed the
- 14:45Speaker 2: laws on the books and done the correct thing. So,
- 14:48Speaker 2: you know, that's the bottom line. And that's where it
- 14:51Speaker 2: gets so frustrating. And then I found this very interesting.
- 14:56Speaker 2: And by the way, not to shamelessly plug myself, this
- 14:59Speaker 2: is another op-ed that's going to be coming out in
- 15:02Speaker 2: the Daily Memphian. And I want to give the Daily
- 15:03Speaker 2: Memphian credit. I send a lot of things to them
- 15:05Speaker 2: trying to bring a balanced perspective and You know, from
- 15:09Speaker 2: their point of view, they would say it's a conservative perspective.
- 15:12Speaker 2: But to me, it's just a common sense perspective on
- 15:14Speaker 2: a lot of the issues being faced here locally and nationally.
- 15:18Speaker 2: And I appreciate because the point of view I bring,
- 15:21Speaker 2: I feel like it doesn't show up hardly ever in
- 15:25Speaker 2: the so-called mainstream media. So I try to bring that
- 15:28Speaker 2: and I appreciate that they've given the opportunity to be
- 15:31Speaker 2: able to express my thoughts and express a different point
- 15:36Speaker 2: of view. So have you experienced that, Helen, that that
- 15:40Speaker 2: kind of switching? You know, you're trying to argue one
- 15:42Speaker 2: thing and then suddenly you're not arguing that immigration immigrants
- 15:45Speaker 2: built the country. You know, you're arguing that we should
- 15:49Speaker 2: have legal immigration.
- 15:51Speaker 3: Yeah. You're making me think maybe you should have started
- 15:54Speaker 3: the show with a land acknowledgement.
- 15:57Speaker 4: Right.
- 15:57Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 15:58Speaker 4: Right.
- 15:58Speaker 2: Oh, God, I hate when they do that. Oh, but,
- 16:01Speaker 2: you know, this it gets even worse. So Research published
- 16:04Speaker 2: in the American Economic Review. I know the kids read
- 16:06Speaker 2: that a lot.
- 16:07Speaker 3: Right.
- 16:08Speaker 2: The AP terminology changed at some point. The result was striking.
- 16:13Speaker 2: The words illegal immigrant, the AP is kind of the
- 16:16Speaker 2: standard which other news organizations use to a lot of
- 16:20Speaker 2: the words that they pick. And they went with softer
- 16:23Speaker 2: language that obscures illegal status. And they got rid of
- 16:29Speaker 2: illegal immigrant. They were no longer going to say that.
- 16:33Speaker 2: And so that disappears quickly. And it became much softer
- 16:37Speaker 2: and it became, oh, what was the term that they
- 16:41Speaker 2: started using? I'll find it in a second. But it was,
- 16:46Speaker 2: there's something like dead air that everybody loves. So tap dance, Helen,
- 16:53Speaker 2: tap dance.
- 16:54Speaker 3: Well, I remember they did the same thing with, what
- 16:59Speaker 3: is it, pedophiles? They changed the name to like, person
- 17:03Speaker 3: attracted to younger people oh my god a name for
- 17:06Speaker 3: that to make it softer and i'm like i don't
- 17:08Speaker 3: think you can make that any softer.
- 17:12Speaker 2: Yeah i don't think uh you're supposed to uh oh
- 17:16Speaker 2: and so they well this is i'll find it in
- 17:22Speaker 2: a second it's basically playing uh this someone it took
- 17:26Speaker 2: away illegal and so this was an undocumented that's right
- 17:29Speaker 2: it was an undocumented immigrant and so That's different than
- 17:33Speaker 2: saying illegal. You take the the legal question out of
- 17:37Speaker 2: it completely. So the AP made that change. It was subtle.
- 17:40Speaker 2: And what they found is it changed people's attitudes towards
- 17:44Speaker 2: the whole issue. When they got the softer language, they
- 17:47Speaker 2: suddenly their opposition to legal immigration dropped. So, you know,
- 17:51Speaker 2: was that done purposely?
- 17:53Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 17:55Speaker 2: It's hard to say, but it certainly had an impact.
- 17:58Speaker 2: And it's that Orwellian thing that language has such a
- 18:01Speaker 2: big impact. on the things that we do, and frighteningly,
- 18:06Speaker 2: the way people think about things. So, you know, that's
- 18:08Speaker 2: something to think about.
- 18:11Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're actually coming up on a hard break.
- 18:15Speaker 1: I can hear the music. That means we must be
- 18:17Speaker 1: doing it.
- 18:18Speaker 2: That's right. Well, Helen, thank you for keeping me on task.
- 18:20Speaker 2: So stay tuned. We're going to have traffic and weather.
- 18:24Speaker 2: It says here in my notes, Laura Huckabee is our
- 18:26Speaker 2: weather lady. So Laura Huckabee will bring you the weather.
- 18:29Speaker 2: So stay tuned. We'll be right back. And welcome back
- 18:43Speaker 2: to the show. If you're expecting stars country, you're being
- 18:46Speaker 2: traded to Covington County today. I'm John Covington filling in
- 18:49Speaker 2: for Todd from the principal Toyota Memphis studio. And if
- 18:53Speaker 2: you want to call in and give us your thoughts,
- 18:55Speaker 2: the number is 901-260-5926, 901-260-5926. Helen, I got to tell you,
- 19:04Speaker 2: I was up late last night and I came in
- 19:06Speaker 2: here a little depressed because my beloved Indiana Fever and
- 19:10Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark We're bounced out of the playoffs. And let
- 19:14Speaker 2: me tell you, I've never enjoyed watching a player play
- 19:18Speaker 2: more than watching Kaitlyn Clark play. And I enjoy the
- 19:22Speaker 2: Indiana Fever. And I've never despised the league as much
- 19:25Speaker 2: as I do the WNBA.
- 19:27Speaker 3: Understood.
- 19:28Speaker 2: I mean, it just sucks. The officiating, the commentary, you know,
- 19:32Speaker 2: they just refuse to– Kaitlyn Clark was kicking butt. And,
- 19:36Speaker 2: you know, they won't even acknowledge it, it seems like.
- 19:39Speaker 2: And it's just– it's a mess. And, you know, I
- 19:43Speaker 2: need to write something about that whole, you know, I'm
- 19:46Speaker 2: the demographic they want to get. I'm an NFL fan, mostly.
- 19:49Speaker 2: I watch some pro basketball, watch college football. NFL is
- 19:53Speaker 2: my thing. Never watched WNBA. I heard about Caitlin Clark,
- 19:56Speaker 2: watched some Iowa games, became a big fan. My daughter
- 19:59Speaker 2: became a fan. And so this is something we can
- 20:01Speaker 2: enjoy together. And she goes to WNBA and I tune in.
- 20:05Speaker 2: I'm the target audience. And I've never seen a league
- 20:08Speaker 2: hate their own superstar as much as the WNBA was.
- 20:12Speaker 2: Kaitlyn Clark got hit in the mouth, was bleeding. No
- 20:14Speaker 2: foul called last night. It was just, it's hard to watch.
- 20:17Speaker 2: And the pregame, they have to, I got to turn
- 20:19Speaker 2: the sound down. And the commentators are just, what's the
- 20:22Speaker 2: PC term? Garbage. There you go. There, I said it.
- 20:26Speaker 2: Come after me, WNBA.
- 20:28Speaker 1: I have to bleep that.
- 20:29Speaker 2: You have to bleep that, right. Yeah, well, that makes
- 20:31Speaker 2: it sound, that makes it sound, people's imagination, God only
- 20:35Speaker 2: knows what they'll do. But, yeah, I mean, that was frustrating,
- 20:38Speaker 2: and I hope they would move on. But, man, the calls.
- 20:42Speaker 2: I shouldn't say it. You know, they had their chances
- 20:43Speaker 2: to win, but whatever. That's my rant.
- 20:46Speaker 3: No, I see those compilations of all the things that
- 20:51Speaker 3: should have been called fouls for her, and I just
- 20:53Speaker 3: don't understand. I'm like, how is that possible? And I
- 20:56Speaker 3: don't even watch basketball as much anymore. My sister played,
- 20:59Speaker 3: so I know women's basketball really well because I had
- 21:03Speaker 3: to go to every game.
- 21:04Speaker 2: Oh, God.
- 21:05Speaker 1: So sometimes I see these things. I can't believe it.
- 21:09Speaker 3: How do you not?
- 21:10Speaker 1: You're right. They hate their own.
- 21:12Speaker 2: They hate their own. It would be like, you know,
- 21:13Speaker 2: with Tiger Woods. You know, he brought a whole new
- 21:18Speaker 2: audience and viewership to golf. You know, a younger generation,
- 21:22Speaker 2: more black folks got involved. I mean, it just really
- 21:26Speaker 2: opened up the sport, as I say, to a whole
- 21:28Speaker 2: new generation and minorities and everything. And what if they
- 21:31Speaker 2: had taken the tack? We hate this guy. He hasn't
- 21:35Speaker 2: paid his dues. Or Michael Jordan, you know, came and said,
- 21:38Speaker 2: F this guy. You know, it's all Larry Bird and
- 21:41Speaker 2: Magic Johnson. But, you know, it gave way. And whatever
- 21:44Speaker 2: the it factor is, Caitlin Clark, to me, has it.
- 21:47Speaker 2: She's enjoying it. It's just fun to watch her play.
- 21:49Speaker 2: And we went and saw a couple games live. And
- 21:53Speaker 2: when she hits a three in their home state, a
- 21:56Speaker 2: court man, it's like a bomb went off. It's really invigorating.
- 21:59Speaker 2: I don't know how I got on this, but I was–
- 22:01Speaker 2: I was irritated, and then I said, well, at least
- 22:03Speaker 2: I don't have to get up tomorrow. Oh, crap. I've
- 22:06Speaker 2: got to come do the show.
- 22:08Speaker 1: I'm glad you got to voice your concerns today.
- 22:10Speaker 2: Well, thank you. Not that it's all about my angry rants,
- 22:13Speaker 2: but there you go. Speaking of angry rants, I got, well,
- 22:17Speaker 2: at least in writing, I got quite a few yesterday
- 22:20Speaker 2: because I had the unmitigated audacity to write an op-ed
- 22:24Speaker 2: that appeared yesterday talking about the one-year anniversary of of
- 22:30Speaker 2: the task force coming. And my point was, I said,
- 22:35Speaker 2: you know, it's called, they told Memphis to be afraid.
- 22:39Speaker 2: A year after warnings of occupation, authoritarianism, and terror, Memphis
- 22:43Speaker 2: is safer, and the hyperbolic rhetoric deserves a reckoning. And,
- 22:48Speaker 2: you know, the things that were being said right before
- 22:52Speaker 2: they came, you had Justin Pearson, what a shock, saying
- 22:55Speaker 2: things like, this was a military, I was going to
- 22:57Speaker 2: turn Memphis into a military zone, authoritarianism, He talked about anti-democratic.
- 23:03Speaker 2: He talked about Memphis being occupied. City Council Resolution talked
- 23:08Speaker 2: about the occupation of Memphis, some local abuse of power,
- 23:12Speaker 2: weaponization of the National Guard. Some local folks were never
- 23:16Speaker 2: happy about anything. He talked about civil and human rights
- 23:19Speaker 2: on the altar of authoritarianism being destroyed, rapid erosion of
- 23:23Speaker 2: civil liberties, and on and on and on. And it
- 23:26Speaker 2: was all designed to stoke this fear and anger. you know,
- 23:30Speaker 2: terror about what was to happen, but you know, people here,
- 23:33Speaker 2: many of them already knew about fear and terror because
- 23:36Speaker 2: they were facing it from what criminals that's right. And
- 23:41Speaker 2: it was just crazy. I remember it was so unhinged,
- 23:44Speaker 2: but there were people who had a different view. Of course,
- 23:47Speaker 2: Brent Taylor talked about it being a force multiplier that
- 23:50Speaker 2: would free up officers for greater enforcement. Um, David Kustoff
- 23:54Speaker 2: was another. He talked about this was going to be
- 23:56Speaker 2: a great opportunity. John Gillespie, Representative of State, Representative John Gillespie,
- 24:00Speaker 2: said the resources would bolster local crime fighting efforts. And so, Helena,
- 24:06Speaker 2: have you, through the haze that is a Gen Z-er,
- 24:12Speaker 2: has any of this drifted through about some of the
- 24:15Speaker 2: numbers and the impact of what the task force has done?
- 24:20Speaker 3: See, I have actually not gone out as much because
- 24:24Speaker 3: I'm used to being in an area in Virginia where
- 24:27Speaker 3: I live in the middle of the woods.
- 24:28Speaker 1: We'd go around with our, you know, bows and arrows and, you.
- 24:32Speaker 2: Know, what is this hunger games? What is going on
- 24:35Speaker 2: over there? But continue, I'm sorry.
- 24:37Speaker 3: So, um, but I've heard from my colleagues about that.
- 24:43Speaker 3: It is, it has become much safer. I know, uh,
- 24:47Speaker 3: not to out Dylan, but you know, since he decided
- 24:50Speaker 3: not to come in today, you know, for the morning,
- 24:51Speaker 3: we're going to just, you know, we're going to rat
- 24:54Speaker 3: on him. I think he had told me a couple
- 24:57Speaker 3: of years ago, his car had been broken into and
- 25:00Speaker 3: he wouldn't go to that area for a long time.
- 25:04Speaker 3: And since then, like that area has had national guard
- 25:07Speaker 3: there that it, he feels okay.
- 25:09Speaker 1: Like parking there again.
- 25:11Speaker 2: Well, that's a pretty common story in the sense that
- 25:13Speaker 2: I know so many people that have been the victim
- 25:15Speaker 2: of crimes and everything from, I don't want to call
- 25:18Speaker 2: that minor because if you ever had it happen, I mean,
- 25:20Speaker 2: it feels like a violation because it is all the
- 25:23Speaker 2: way up to homicide. But since they've been here, here's
- 25:26Speaker 2: some of the most recent numbers. 12,796 arrests, and that
- 25:29Speaker 2: including 131 homicide arrests, 1,279 firearms arrests, and 125 sex
- 25:32Speaker 2: offense arrests. 1,415 gang members taken into custody. They seized
- 25:46Speaker 2: over 2,000 illegal firearms and located 189 missing children. Oh,
- 25:52Speaker 2: what a horrible thing. What an Orwellian dystopia that we
- 25:57Speaker 2: live in. Oh, wait. They made things safer. And to
- 26:00Speaker 2: give credit was due to the local leadership and local
- 26:04Speaker 2: law enforcement. The trend had started downward prior to the
- 26:09Speaker 2: getting here, but I don't think anybody can argue that
- 26:11Speaker 2: it was not a huge accelerant. Because we're now seeing
- 26:14Speaker 2: crime lows that we haven't seen in 15 years. So,
- 26:18Speaker 2: you know, all this fear mongering that went on, none
- 26:21Speaker 2: of it came to pass. And it's just another example
- 26:25Speaker 2: that Memphis doesn't need panic. We need pragmatism to move
- 26:30Speaker 2: because everything is based on the city being safe. And
- 26:35Speaker 2: we've gotten this great opportunity. And it's happened and we
- 26:40Speaker 2: need to build on it. move forward. And I just
- 26:43Speaker 2: get so frustrated because you're still hearing some of the
- 26:47Speaker 2: same kind of hyperbolic, over-the-top anti-task force stuff, and it
- 26:52Speaker 2: just does not match reality. So in my piece, there
- 26:57Speaker 2: should also be room to admit when reality did not
- 27:00Speaker 2: match the rhetoric. Memphis was told to be afraid. A
- 27:03Speaker 2: year later, Memphis is safer. The next time the same
- 27:06Speaker 2: voices tell you the sky is falling, don't forget to
- 27:08Speaker 2: look up and double check. And that's posted on, on
- 27:12Speaker 2: my side of the daily myth. And if you get
- 27:13Speaker 2: a chance, go check it out. But it just drove me.
- 27:16Speaker 2: It still drives me crazy. This worked because more police,
- 27:20Speaker 2: more law enforcement equals lower crime. You can be proactive.
- 27:24Speaker 2: You can be a presence and it has a huge impact.
- 27:27Speaker 2: And some of these folks, the rhetoric was so far
- 27:31Speaker 2: beyond it. What I worried was people would believe that. And,
- 27:36Speaker 2: resist or it would just create a more dangerous situation
- 27:40Speaker 2: for the city. But thank God the whole thing has
- 27:43Speaker 2: been a success. And if you're anti the work of
- 27:47Speaker 2: the Memphis Task Force, I just remember that you're anti
- 27:51Speaker 2: children being found and rescued. And because that is a
- 27:55Speaker 2: real thing. 189 kids. And I don't know how you
- 28:01Speaker 2: are against that. That makes no sense to me. Does
- 28:05Speaker 2: it make any Sense to you, Helen? I mean, this
- 28:07Speaker 2: seems crazy to me.
- 28:09Speaker 3: No, no, it doesn't make any sense to me. And
- 28:12Speaker 3: I can say, though, the last time I was in downtown,
- 28:14Speaker 3: you know, I actually, it was pretty safe. The only
- 28:18Speaker 3: thing I got attacked by was one of those jumping
- 28:20Speaker 3: grasshoppers that for some reason have wings. And, you know,
- 28:24Speaker 3: since we're ratting on Dylan, Dylan was there and he
- 28:26Speaker 3: screamed like a little girl.
- 28:27Speaker 2: Oh, I wish that.
- 28:28Speaker 1: I'd like that to be put on the record.
- 28:30Speaker 2: Right, yeah. Well, that will be on the record, Dylan. See,
- 28:33Speaker 2: this is what happens when you don't show up, Dylan.
- 28:36Speaker 2: What is the old saying? If you're not at the table,
- 28:38Speaker 2: you're on the menu. And Dylan is on the menu today. But,
- 28:42Speaker 2: you know, he reached out to me. Oh, John, can
- 28:45Speaker 2: you please come do the show? You're the greatest thing ever.
- 28:49Speaker 2: And I said, well, you know, flattery will get you everywhere.
- 28:53Speaker 2: And then my wife, when I was getting up super early,
- 28:55Speaker 2: you know what she said to me before I left?
- 28:57Speaker 1: What'd you say?
- 28:59Speaker 2: Because she was asleep. That's right. I think that's a
- 29:02Speaker 2: pretty accurate quote.
- 29:04Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 29:05Speaker 2: Anyway, so if I'm not mistaken, another break is coming up, correct?
- 29:09Speaker 1: That's right.
- 29:10Speaker 4: All right.
- 29:10Speaker 2: Look at me getting the hang of this about the time.
- 29:12Speaker 2: So we have one more segment coming up. Don't miss it.
- 29:15Speaker 2: We're going to talk about cool stuff, as we always do.
- 29:18Speaker 2: So stay tuned. We'll be right back. Well, hell, that
- 29:24Speaker 2: was fun. I'm glad we wrapped up the last segment.
- 29:26Speaker 2: Now I can tell you what I really think with
- 29:28Speaker 2: a bunch of cuts. Wait a second. You mean there's
- 29:29Speaker 2: one more segment to go? That's right. Well, welcome back.
- 29:33Speaker 2: This is Today It's Not Stars. Country is Covington County.
- 29:37Speaker 2: I'm John Covington, your host, filling in for Todd Starnes
- 29:39Speaker 2: from the principal Toyota Memphis studio. And glad you're joining
- 29:44Speaker 2: us on this fine morning. You know, nothing inspires confidence
- 29:47Speaker 2: quite like the person running your show who wanders in
- 29:50Speaker 2: during the break and says, you got anything for the
- 29:53Speaker 2: last segment? I like that the previous segment I gave
- 29:56Speaker 2: the impression that I was out of stuff.
- 29:59Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 30:00Speaker 2: Nothing makes you feel better than that. But I am
- 30:03Speaker 2: not out of stuff, Helen. I've got more stuff. What
- 30:07Speaker 2: did I do with it?
- 30:07Speaker 3: Anyway.
- 30:08Speaker 1: Where'd it go?
- 30:09Speaker 2: Where'd it go? Where'd it go? I wanted to talk
- 30:11Speaker 2: about something else going on. Helen, how familiar are you
- 30:15Speaker 2: with Ronald Reagan? Is he somebody just from ancient history
- 30:18Speaker 2: for you? Yeah.
- 30:20Speaker 1: Yeah, just a really old man, right?
- 30:22Speaker 2: Thank God, as I say.
- 30:24Speaker 1: He's not around anymore.
- 30:25Speaker 2: We're doomed, people. Doomed, I tell you. Anyway, no, Ronald
- 30:28Speaker 2: Reagan was a president.
- 30:30Speaker 1: A president.
- 30:31Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. Okay, good. Now, you may not know,
- 30:35Speaker 2: as a younger man in the 40s and 50s, he
- 30:38Speaker 2: started off as a Democrat. And he ended up becoming
- 30:42Speaker 2: a very conservative Republican. And he said when he made
- 30:46Speaker 2: the transition, I did not leave my party. My party
- 30:49Speaker 2: left me. I have that question for moderate Democrats, conservatives.
- 30:56Speaker 2: And conservative Democrats, because I know you're out there, has
- 31:00Speaker 2: your party left you? What's interesting here locally is Justin Pearson,
- 31:05Speaker 2: you know, of course, is running against Brent Taylor. Steve
- 31:07Speaker 2: Cohen has not come out and endorsed him. And the
- 31:11Speaker 2: Democratic Party is not seeming to do a whole lot.
- 31:13Speaker 2: And Hereford Sr. said he had no plans to come out.
- 31:17Speaker 2: So there's a rift right there. And it goes beyond
- 31:20Speaker 2: just political friction because Justin Pearson has done something I
- 31:24Speaker 2: did not think was possible. He made Steve Cohen seem
- 31:27Speaker 2: halfway reasonable, which is a hell of a thing. Because Pearson,
- 31:33Speaker 2: I talked about he had all this bombastic language about
- 31:36Speaker 2: the task force. Now, Cohen, it was more– he acknowledged
- 31:40Speaker 2: that welcome resources, more federal resources, and that we need
- 31:45Speaker 2: ultimately more law enforcement to get crime under control. Of course,
- 31:49Speaker 2: he had quibbles with the National Guard and fine. But
- 31:51Speaker 2: he bought the basic premise. And on XAI– He bought
- 31:56Speaker 2: the basic premise that investment was good, you know, for
- 32:00Speaker 2: the community. And for him, that's pretty amazing. That's pretty moderate.
- 32:06Speaker 2: Justin Pearson, 100% against those things. But that's not just
- 32:10Speaker 2: friction between those two. There's a greater friction playing out
- 32:13Speaker 2: nationally with the party. Are you familiar with Hassan Piker,
- 32:16Speaker 2: by chance, Helen? We've lost Helen. She's gone. You still there, Helen? Hello.
- 32:26Speaker 1: I'm still there.
- 32:28Speaker 2: It's like a Ouija board, Helen. But have you heard
- 32:31Speaker 2: of a Hasan Piker?
- 32:32Speaker 4: Yes.
- 32:34Speaker 2: Okay, good.
- 32:35Speaker 1: That was the question.
- 32:36Speaker 2: That was the question. Just yes, that's good. We'll take it. No,
- 32:41Speaker 2: he is really out there now. And some people try
- 32:43Speaker 2: to dismiss him. Well, he's just this– he's on Twitch
- 32:46Speaker 2: or whatever your kids are on with your rock and
- 32:48Speaker 2: roll music and your lady, good God, whatever you listen
- 32:52Speaker 2: to and so forth. But he's on there saying that
- 32:55Speaker 2: America deserved 9-11. He's making excuses for Mao Zedong and Stalin,
- 33:00Speaker 2: calling them great men of history. He says he wipes
- 33:04Speaker 2: his blank with the Constitution. And he says America is
- 33:10Speaker 2: more responsible for terrorism in the world pound for pound
- 33:12Speaker 2: than Al-Qaeda. You know, this guy is completely out there.
- 33:15Speaker 2: And you would figure he would just be a marginal,
- 33:18Speaker 2: radical character, but no. He has been invited. He has
- 33:21Speaker 2: been a big part of campaigns up in Michigan and
- 33:24Speaker 2: across the country. Justin Pearson sat down with him. This
- 33:26Speaker 2: guy is quickly becoming the mainstream, which you probably don't
- 33:32Speaker 2: know who James Carville is, but he ran Bill Clinton's campaigns.
- 33:36Speaker 2: And you look back and suddenly Bill Clinton sounds very moderate.
- 33:40Speaker 2: He wanted more police. He talked about the importance of
- 33:42Speaker 2: secure borders. That stuff would not fly in today's Republican Party.
- 33:46Speaker 2: So my question is for you. moderate Democrats, conservative Democrats,
- 33:51Speaker 2: it doesn't sound like to me you have a party anymore.
- 33:54Speaker 2: And you may not agree with everything with Republicans. You
- 33:56Speaker 2: may dislike Trump. There's a lot of that. But especially
- 34:00Speaker 2: here locally, when it comes to public safety and investment
- 34:03Speaker 2: to create jobs and a bigger tax base, dare I
- 34:07Speaker 2: say it, don't the Republicans represent you better? And is
- 34:11Speaker 2: it just muscle memory at this point? Are you voting,
- 34:14Speaker 2: going in and hitting that D for a party that
- 34:18Speaker 2: really no longer exists. And, you know, I think it's
- 34:23Speaker 2: fair to ask the question because I know some of
- 34:25Speaker 2: those folks who are Democrats, who are moderates and more conservative,
- 34:29Speaker 2: and I know they feel lost. And this is what
- 34:32Speaker 2: Bill Clinton said in 1996. The era of big government
- 34:35Speaker 2: is over. We're rightly disturbed by illegal immigration. We are
- 34:42Speaker 2: a nation of laws. And he championed the hiring of
- 34:46Speaker 2: additional 100,000 police officers. That is not where the mainstream
- 34:51Speaker 2: Democratic Party is today, you know. And so anyway, that's
- 34:55Speaker 2: that's my question. Or you out there questioning or thinking
- 35:01Speaker 2: about it or really struggling because take take Trump out
- 35:05Speaker 2: of it. You know, he's that he gets people all
- 35:07Speaker 2: worked up. I get it. Fine. Take him out of
- 35:09Speaker 2: the equation. And if you do get rid of your
- 35:11Speaker 2: derangement syndrome, honestly, I think the Republicans are the. a
- 35:18Speaker 2: party with a common sense approach and the right take
- 35:22Speaker 2: on everything. And my challenge is to, hey, you don't
- 35:26Speaker 2: have to put a sign in your door. You don't
- 35:27Speaker 2: have to tell anybody. Maybe when you go in that
- 35:28Speaker 2: booth next time, maybe vote in your self-interest for what
- 35:31Speaker 2: you really believe. And if you do that, I think
- 35:34Speaker 2: a lot of you are going to be pushing the
- 35:35Speaker 2: R button. What do you think about that, Helen? Do
- 35:38Speaker 2: you think that pitch will work? Do you think they're
- 35:39Speaker 2: going to stop and think? I hope they do.
- 35:42Speaker 3: What I think they're going to do, I don't know.
- 35:45Speaker 3: I don't know if they'll follow what you said. Well,
- 35:48Speaker 3: it would be in an ideal world. You would vote
- 35:52Speaker 3: for the ideals that you have. And that leans more right.
- 35:58Speaker 3: I can see that. Yeah.
- 35:59Speaker 2: I mean, as I say here locally, the Democrats are
- 36:04Speaker 2: many of them are against public safety and against investment
- 36:07Speaker 2: and growing the base, the tax base and moving forward. So,
- 36:11Speaker 2: you know, I don't I don't know. But I thought
- 36:13Speaker 2: that out there is a challenge. And hopefully some people
- 36:16Speaker 2: take it to heart and think about it. Well, you've
- 36:18Speaker 2: whiled away a perfectly good hour of your Friday morning
- 36:22Speaker 2: here with us. It's been a true pleasure. I thank
- 36:24Speaker 2: Todd for the opportunity to come in and do my thing.
- 36:28Speaker 2: Thank you, Helen. You were amazing.
- 36:31Speaker 3: You said Covington County. We need something for, like, Hazard,
- 36:34Speaker 3: like Highway Hazard.
- 36:36Speaker 2: Hazard County is the Dukes of Hazard, which you will
- 36:38Speaker 2: not remember. You're too young. But I'll never forget you coming.
- 36:42Speaker 2: It's like, do you have anything? I mean, my God,
- 36:44Speaker 2: it really sounds like you're drowning. She didn't say that part,
- 36:46Speaker 2: but that's what I heard. But anyway, everybody, please, God
- 36:49Speaker 2: bless you. Be safe. Have a great weekend. Helen, thank
- 36:53Speaker 2: you so much. Dylan, I'll get you for this. Take care.
- 36:56Speaker 2: Have a great day. See you soon.