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08 - Main Character Energy: How Fats Timbo transformed adversity into a self-worth manifesto · The Dr Louise Newson Podcast

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On my podcast today, I've got Fats Timbo, who is a creator,
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comedian and author. She has a chondroplasia and it's
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affected her in many ways, but she's turned it into something
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very positive. Her whole life actually is
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really positive. Her book is entitled Main
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Character Energy, and there's so much energy coming off her.
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We talk a lot about how to face challenges, how to be the best
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version of yourself. It's a great episode and so many
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things we can learn from. So very excited that you're here
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today. So Fats is a creator, a comedian
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and an author. Soon to be paperback, but this
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is, I couldn't put it down actually when I read it, but we
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will talk about it. But it's great that you're here
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and there's lots to talk about. I was really like when I was
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reading your book. I felt sad and happy.
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I felt negative and positive. I had loads of emotions going
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round and that's probably how you spent a lot of your life.
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Is that fair to say? Oh, yeah, and that's just how
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you described reading the book. That's literally how I feel
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everyday. Sometimes I can just, yeah, be
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sad about when I go outside, people looking at me.
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And then when I go to a space where I'm loved and cherished, I
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feel great. I feel happy.
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I embrace myself and I think sharing the highs and lows of my
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life was super important because I didn't want to sugarcoat
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anything. On social media, everyone shows
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the highlights of their life and the best side of themselves.
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And for me, I think I wanted to let my followers know that
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there's an, there's another side to me, there's a story behind
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me. There's a reason why I am
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resilient or there's a reason why I have a relatable humor is
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because I go through things and I, I shed humor about it, you
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know, and I also talk about advocacy as well.
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So I think it was important to highlight those things in my
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book and inspire others to to overcome their adversities.
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I think because everyone has got some sort of adversity, so
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everyone's got something that isn't liked by others, but often
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you can't see it. You know, when you've got a
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difference, whatever it is, people want to try and find
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fault in it rather than it being a superpower or something that
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even identifies you or makes you who you are.
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And I think it's, you know, it takes a long time for us to
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realise that. You've realised it a lot quicker
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than most of us, I think. But even, you know, when you
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were, when your mum was pregnant, like she was told
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something really awful, wasn't she?
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Yeah, she was told that at at six months precisely that I'd
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either have Down syndrome or dwarfism.
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Do I want, do you want to abort your baby?
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And at this point, my mom was devastated.
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She was upset, but she had already fallen in love with me.
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And she was quite fearless in the sense that whatever
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happened, whatever was what was going on with her, she was like,
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you know what? I'm going to see it through.
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And I'm not going to listen to the doctors.
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I'm going to love this baby no matter what, which I've always
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felt from her, no matter how angry she gets at me sometimes,
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she's always loved me like fully.
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And she loves all her children. She's got five kids.
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And you know, she's always said I, I, I wanted you like I wanted
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you. I didn't care what anyone said,
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I wanted you as my child so. She's so important and didn't
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she make the right decision? She knew I you know, you've got
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a chondroplasia, but it's not a disability that means that
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people have to terminate. Yes, that's the thing.
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And that's what's quite sad as well, because why?
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Why was it a thing to maybe terminate me because I have
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achondroplasia? It doesn't mean it's only my
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height that is affected in my. Body.
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Your brain. Doesn't at all.
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It doesn't affect my brain. Doesn't affect any, it just
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effects the instructions to say how, yeah, big I should grow.
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Yeah, basically. So, yeah, but it's not a reason
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to terminate the baby. So I think my mum had that same
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thought and she thought maybe as well if I do have Down syndrome,
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that's another reason. What?
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Like, OK, might have a few learning difficulties, but she
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might she, she said that, you know, she'd seen people with
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learning difficulties and they were fine.
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So. And and still very much loved as
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well. Yeah, exactly.
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I went to boarding school actually when I was 9, but one
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of the people in my house had a chondroplasia.
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But when we started, I, I was, we were all small, you know, we
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were 9. And so like was no big deal.
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Like she was the same height as us, you know what I mean?
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And what's really interesting in, you know, the boarding
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school, you're, you just live and breathe everything together.
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And we just grew at different rates, different pace and it was
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just not an issue. It wasn't an issue at all, you
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know, and then being medical, nothing's an issue because I've
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seen all sorts of conditions, all sorts of things.
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And it's interesting when suddenly you look externally and
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people say, well, what is a Condra place?
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What does it mean? And you know, when Charlie and
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the Chocolate Factory came out with, you know, the Oompa
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Loompas and people that, you know, then thinking actually
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they are completely normal people, like what's the big
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deal? And it's great actually, that,
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you know, people understand more and talking more.
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But there's still, I mean, I don't need to tell you.
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You still must get this. Oh, shall I talk down to her
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because she's smaller? Like what the hell like.
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Honestly, I get that a lot. A lot.
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And I, I, I think as well with the Charlie and the Chocolate
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Factory thing, I guess it was a positive to show that we are
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human. But at the same time, it wasn't
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negative totally for me because that's all people had reference
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to. And it was so annoying being
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born in a world where that's the only reference people have of
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your condition. So I was always being, I was
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always mocked. I was always really made fun out
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of. Yeah, because of the movie.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So people would refer me as an umpul.
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Oh my gosh, no, I hadn't thought about that.
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That I was just thinking like, people can see that there's
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actors that are really good. People spinning negative and
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it's yeah, frustrating and exhausting basically sometimes.
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So as a child, because it's I have no control in that.
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No, I can't. That's something that you saw on
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TV and that's put out there and you're referring to me as that
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so. Yeah, that's like saying, you
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know, I've got brown hair. Therefore everyone with brown
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hair has a certain way of talking or thinking.
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Like it's just. Rubbish.
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Just it's like, absolutely, but that's why social media, the
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work that you're doing, empowering people, normalising
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something that is actually a normal variant, which is what a
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contraplasia in my mind is. It is a variant of something
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that you know, it's, it's not a big, I'm not putting you down,
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but it's not a big deal. The biggest deal is that you've
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had the most incredible life. Your parents, like I would love
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to meet them the way that your mum just explained when she like
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cooked a meal for your dad. My my parents are the best like
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my dad. He whenever he goes to an event,
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he has to be the most Nazziest person.
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He has to. He's like, yeah, like I look
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good. I know he's that.
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He's that kind of person. You you'll tell him he looks
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good and he'll be like, yeah, I know because that's what that's
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my aim. But I like that confidence.
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And that's the kind of confidence I I think I've got
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from him because, you know, he doesn't, he doesn't care to like
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not stand out. He wants to stand out.
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He wants to. It's a.
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Great way to be. Though, you know, he's, he's not
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afraid to, to be standing out and be that person that people
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talk to about things, you know, like be an award manager.
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People rely on you. People want your opinions like
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they, they respect your decisions.
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You know, every time he comes over because he works abroad,
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he's like, this needs to be done.
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This needs to be done. I'm like, oh, dad, you know,
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you've got high expectations. So that's kind of how I've lived
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my life in a way, having high expectations of myself, seeing
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things through, pushing through. And when something negative
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would happen and like I'd get upset about the comment or, you
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know, he'd he'd say, look at you, you are a superstar.
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You know, you'd always tell me that it's like no one can take
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that away from you. So being raised with that kind
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of mindset really helps me as a person and helps me as someone
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with achondroplasia. Yeah.
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And your mum's quite sassy, so she cooked him a meal and then
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that's it, they carried. Me together, she is a sassy
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woman. She was like, I was gonna cook
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him food and I was gonna find a place to stay because during
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those times she was like, during those times it was tough.
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You come to the country, you have no plan.
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Yeah, but you just want a better life for yourself.
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So what? What can you do?
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You meet this man, you know he likes you, seems to like you and
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your food. What are you going to do?
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Yeah. So, yeah.
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It's funny how my dad said she cooked and never left.
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Which is great, isn't it? Yeah, it's brilliant.
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So. But you know, my, my dad used to
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say it's better to be looked at than overlooked.
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Oh yeah, and, and that's right, isn't it?
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Absolutely. Absolutely.
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Because, you know, a lot of people are afraid to stand out.
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One of my commandments is to, to not be afraid to stand out
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basically. And I think it's everyone wants
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to fit in, but they don't want to stand out.
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But it's OK to because you can inspire others.
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You can use your voice to speak up for the unheard.
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You know, I, I talk about rising above.
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I it took me a long time to speak out about how I feel about
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things because I really wanted to have friends.
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I wanted to impress people. I didn't want to give reasons
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for people to be upset with me. So I would just kind of appease
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people, the wrong people sometimes.
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But now I'm like, if you don't like me, that's fine.
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That's fine. I like me, my family like me,
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and that's all that matters. And now your fiance.
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And my fiance loves me so. Yeah, and it, but I mean, you're
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young, you've learnt all these things quite quickly.
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I'm like nearly double your age and it's taken me years to
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realise that. And whether it's just because
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you're so great with social media that you're learning,
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because I do think you learn quicker on social media.
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You learn how people hate you quicker on social media.
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You get that instant reward or abuse depending on but it does
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take a while to to have that confidence and inner strength
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and not be changed because I think it's so easy now for
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people to be moulded and changed into a certain person or a
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certain personality or a certain way of dressing.
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So I'm maybe is it your parents? Is it, is it what you know?
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What is it that's made you sort of thinks so maturely so
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quickly, really? I think it has to be.
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It has to be the treatment that I've received throughout my
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whole life because of my achondroplasia that's definitely
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made me or forced me to like myself.
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Because if I didn't, then I would listen to the people that
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hate me or the people that look at me funny, you know, like I've
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had to find that inner strength to find a way to, to like myself
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because I didn't for a long time.
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I was very depressed. I was really, I, I didn't like
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life. I hated waking up and just going
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outside. I had a fear of that because I
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knew the reaction I would get. And then that would instantly
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bring my mood down. And then when I started reading
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self help books to to find a way to change that because I after a
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while I just knew that this is the body I'm in, this is the
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body I'm in. There's nothing I can do.
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I can only like myself. I want to like myself the way my
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dad likes himself. That's how I wanted to.
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That's how I saw it, you know, So I was trying to find ways to
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be happy, to like myself, to respect myself.
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And reading those like reading the secret and manifesting that
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self love for myself really, really did help.
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And I think if I didn't have my condition where I would have to
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find acceptance and find it in the, find it in the wrong
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places, then I wouldn't have learnt to accept myself so
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quickly I think. It's really important and I, I
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do think as a woman we tend to put ourselves down more.
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We're looking out for other people.
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Often this is generalisation, but women are sort of wide that
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way and we are more negative. And certainly, you know, with
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the work that I do with seeing people with hormonal changes,
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there are lots of women who really have spent a lot of times
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feeling very inward, very down. The focus is on their children.
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And then they have more hormonal changes.
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They become perimenopausal or menopausal.
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And everyone's saying, oh, it's because you can't cope with your
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life because you're working full time.
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You've got three children, you've got parent that you might
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need to look after. So hang on.
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No, don't make them feel worse about themselves.
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Actually try and work out what the problem is.
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And in many cases it's due to changing hormones.
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But also like, how can we give ourselves tools where we are the
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best version of ourselves, that we love each, we love others,
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but we love ourselves. And it's taken me a lot of time
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to just be more selfish to actually think, no, you know, we
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have to start the love from within.
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And your, your book's very important at getting that out.
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And in fact, my oldest daughter's got these little
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notes to say, tell yourself you love you like be really
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positive. And, and it's great, you know,
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smile at yourself in the mirror. Like look at yourself.
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And, and years ago, my mother-in-law, she's very
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positive. She's great to be around.
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But she said I was dressed for dinner and she, she was a dress
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designer. So she even when she writes, she
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remembers the colour of the dress and the buttons because,
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you know, in the bag that she had.
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And she said, I was going down for dinner and I got this
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picture of this woman and I was like, gosh, who's she?
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She looks amazing. Then I realized it was a mirror
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and it was me. She was like, and we were just
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laughing because she's just written her memoirs.
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And we were like, gosh, Kay, like you were always so like,
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yes. And when someone says, oh,
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that's a nice outfit, she'll say, yes, it is, isn't it?
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Rather than I would go, oh, you sure?
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Do you really like it? You know, and I think actually
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having that, doesn't that make you feel better about yourself
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it? Does it?
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Does? I think a lot of people need to
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practice positive self-taught. Yeah.
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It's so natural to be negative. Yeah, because it is.
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Not everything is perfect. We're in a very imperfect world
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with imperfect people and ourselves.
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We're we're imperfect, so it takes effort to find things that
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are positive and things that we are grateful for.
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But once you start seeing the positives in things, especially
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in a negative situation, it kind of lightens the mood.
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It kind of makes you feel like, okay, do you know, do you know
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what? Not everything at the end of the
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world, you know. You know, you're trying every
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single day. Life is exhausting sometimes,
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but you got to give props to yourself sometimes.
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Like, I worked hard today. You know, I deserve something.
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Maybe I'd buy chocolate. Who knows?
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But sometimes I like to treat myself.
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But yeah, I think it's even the hormonal changes in terms of
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when, like, let's say before your period starts.
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I find it so I find life so agitating.
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I find I find everyone agitating around me.
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And I feel like everyone avoids me like the plague at my house.
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And then my period comes and I'm like, Oh yeah, yeah, that thing,
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you know, why? Why is it a thing to get angry
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and negative before your periods?
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Start so common. So if you heard of PMS,
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premenstrual syndrome, yes, yeah.
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So about 95% of women IE or women have some PMS.
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But what happens I don't know if you remember any any sort of
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charts you use would have learned maybe in biology classes
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at school where your hormone levels fluctuate throughout your
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menstrual cycle. So you have like a little peak
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in the middle of your cycle where we release an egg and then
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the second-half of our cycle. So the run up to our next period
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period, we have a rise in progesterone, one of the
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hormones and a rise in estradiol, which is the type of
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estrogen. And the progesterone especially
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goes really high. And then just before our
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periods, the few days before it crashes and goes down very
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quickly. So that going down very quickly
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effects every single cell in your body, but especially your
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brain. So it's like your brains going,
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what's going on? So you don't have the same
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dopamine, which is your reward hormone.
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You don't have the same serotonin, your happy hormone.
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There's other neurotransmitters in the brain that are affected
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by this big drop, and that manifests itself often with mood
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problems. A lot of people feel very low,
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very tearful, emotional, angry, irritable.
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Some people have physical symptoms.
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Sometimes people might have palpitations or joint pains or
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acne. Hair might just look awful, you
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know, those sort of feelings. And it's all related to the
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change in hormones. But the problem is, because it's
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about women, it's just normalized.
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It's like, yeah, you will feel like that, but don't worry, it's
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only for a few days actually. Like if you've got really
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important interview or you're doing something really
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important, like why should you feel not the best version of
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yourself because of your hormones?
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So often when we see people in the clinic, we'll just give
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natural hormones so different to contraception.
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It's like replace like for like often start just with
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progesterone because that's the biggest drop and lots of people
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just take progesterone for those few days just to sort of stop
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that. So plateau them a bit more.
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The hormone levels, sometimes some natural estrogen, estradiol
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as well. And then people feel the same
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all the time, which is so much better because often with age it
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can get worse and the symptoms can be extremely.
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Yes, for me. Yeah, it is.
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Yeah. I think a lot of women would
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benefit from that because I don't think they've been aware
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that it's going on. They just think it's just just
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hormones. Yeah, well, this is the thing.
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Oh, don't worry, she's just a hormonal woman.
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Just ignore her for a bit. And it's always a bit of a joke,
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but it's really difficult. And then when it's more extreme,
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so really has a big effect on people, it's often called PMDD,
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which is premenstrual dysphoric disorder, which basically means
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you're having a really terrible time.
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But a lot of people don't even join the dots and know that it's
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related to hormones. So a lot of women are given
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antidepressants or they're given contraception, which is a
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different type of hormone. And often it blocks like the
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serotonin happy hormone even more so people then feel worse,
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so giving natural hormones. And we've known it for decades.
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Like for decades, people have written about it, talked about
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it. And I was actually reading about
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the history about it a few days ago, and the first time it was
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written about, it went to a psychiatric journal.
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And the psychiatrist went, oh, that's just Women's Health.
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We're not interested. The gynecologists who control
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Women's Health because it's all about our periods, never read
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psychiatric or psychiatrist journals.
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So then they still don't think it's a real condition, really, a
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lot of the time. I mean, it's generalisation, of
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course, but yeah. So.
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So women are just like, well, who do I talk to?
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What do I do? How do I get help?
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But it's a real thing. And it's not just for the woman,
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like you say. It's like for everyone around us
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as well. Yeah.
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And. To understand what women go
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through in terms of periods and yeah, things like that, but
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it's. Yeah, so my oldest daughter has
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PMDD and she started off having hormones just for those few days
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and now she has them throughout her cycle, but the same amount.
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And it's the most natural way of producing your hormone, you
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know, making them level. Because if you think like
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evolutionary women are designed to, to just get pregnant and
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have like a good level of hormones, we're not really
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designed to have periods every month.
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But the, it's the impact that it has on people and others is
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really can be really difficult because they don't know what to
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do they, you know. We don't know what to do but.
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No. It's just happening.
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Yeah. It's just these moods are coming
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up and you're like, I just feel low, you know?
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Everything is frustrating. But once people understand and
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you know, in medicine we try and treat the underlying 'cause you
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know, if you had low iron, I would give you iron.
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If you have low hormones at a certain time, we just give you
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hormones. But it's, it's very simplistic
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and it's very simple. But the hardest thing is women
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actually being able to access treatment and talk about it to
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someone who understands. It is the access, I think the
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education as well. Yeah, totally.
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But I think if we improve on access or if we improve the
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education, can get better access course to women.
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I think that's, that's what's changing and I think that's
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totally what social media is doing as well, is that it's
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enabling people to have a voice 'cause they're learning from
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others. Oh yeah.
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And that's something we didn't have before, you know, when I
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was a bit younger than you, we didn't have Internet, we didn't
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have phones. Like we didn't know.
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We, we just did what our doctor told us to do.
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Whereas now if someone says to you, oh, no, you're depressed,
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you're like, well, no, I'm not depressed.
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I, I'm low just before my period, but I'm not, I don't
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need antidepressants. Then you'd probably go on social
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media and work out what others are doing and try and learn.
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Is that me? Could it be me?
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Could that treatment help? And that's, that's how things
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are changing. And I think that's the only way
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things can change, which is, which is good actually.
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I mean, some people don't like it, but they don't have to
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follow you or they don't have to learn from social media, do
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they? Social media is something that
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has changed society for the better and bad as well, but I
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think for the better in terms of education.
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Yeah, people know so much now. Because they.
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Do they know about people? They know about hormones, they
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know about like diseases and, and, and just more aware about
23:30
things. And I think it's saving a lot of
23:32
lives, especially trying to search for things that might be
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wrong with them and then seeing, yeah, communities that have the
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same condition as them. Yeah, for me personally, it's
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it's changed me as a person because I never used to see
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people that looked like me whatsoever at all.
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And then when I went on social media and I saw people that
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looked like me, it was like, oh, I'm not the only one in the
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world that looks like. She's great so.
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Yeah, it was really cool. Like it took me many, many years
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to realize that it wasn't just me, that I had achondroplasia.
24:09
My parents did tell me, but seeing is believing, you know?
24:14
So never saw people with achondroplasia on TV whatsoever
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except from. China.
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Chocolate Factory, you know so. That's really empowering.
24:26
One of the things in your book it's you talk about your
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different commandments, which is great.
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And one of the ones I actually screenshotted because I really
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liked is about bullies. And I when I was at bullies,
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guys bullied a lot and found it really difficult.
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And some of the work I do now, I still get bullied and it it
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takes a lot of courage actually to not retaliate, but just what
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the words that you use because. They're rise above.
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Yeah, you have to rise above because you don't want to stoop
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to their level whatsoever. I sometimes I would because I'm
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just angry that day. But most of the time it's just
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effort. You know, I'm not going to give,
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I'm not going to give them anything if they try to get a
25:08
reaction or you know, and I I've it's more of a them problem than
25:13
you problem. You know, people that look at
25:16
other people negatively and comment on them and try to make
25:20
them feel less than it's, it's not right and it's they don't
25:24
deserve good people's time. And the other thing you said was
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if, if it's still happening, get help.
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And I like that, you know, if it's at school, talk to someone.
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Don't do it alone. And I thought that was really
25:38
good advice as well. It was so important to share
25:41
that because I didn't do it alone, I don't I don't know if I
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would be here if I did it alone. I had a counsellor throughout
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primary school, 2nd secondary school, college, university.
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I had somebody that I could talk to you about certain things I
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could say this week this person looked at me funny or this this
26:05
week I was upset because so and so I could lay it all out
26:10
instead of holding it in. I don't have one now.
26:12
I should really, but I think. You've learned so much.
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I've learned so much, so, so much about how to deal with my
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mental health. And I think as well, when I get
26:25
overwhelmed and upset, I've learned that it's OK to cry like
26:31
I used to think it was. You know, you're weak if you
26:33
cry. But sometimes I'll just cry to
26:36
Alan, and then he'll be my, my, the shoulder to cry on
26:41
basically. Anyway, it's OK.
26:43
It's all right. My mom hates seeing me cry.
26:45
She starts crying as well, and then I start consoling her.
26:47
I'm like, who's crying here? You know, it's so, it's so
26:52
annoying. But yeah, I hate seeing her
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upset. So I, I cry to Alan if I'm upset
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about things. And you know, that's like my
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therapy. Really, Yeah, it's so important.
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So before we end, I always ask for three take home tips.
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There's loads, I loads of tips I want from you.
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But I think the three is how to be as positive as possible
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because you just, you know, there's so much positivity
27:17
coming off you coming off your book.
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Like what are the three tips for us to be more positive?
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First one is practice positive self talk, whether that is
27:30
telling yourself affirmations or telling yourself what you're
27:34
grateful for in a negative situation.
27:37
Just practice that. And then that can really help
27:40
you have a positive mindset because then you're not seeing
27:44
the negative side of life. The glass is half full, not
27:48
empty. Another one is surround yourself
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with positive people. When you're around negative
27:55
people, they can really dampen your mood.
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And you, everyone, everyone gets influenced by people you know.
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If you're around positive people, then you know the Sky's
28:06
your limit. Another one could be to go for,
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go for your goals, no matter how hard it is, right?
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And it's easier said than done, but you got to love the process
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because that's all we got really.
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Because once the result happens, you're on to the next thing, you
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know. So you got to really love the
28:32
process of what you're doing. And then this you can reach for
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your goals. Love it, enjoy the journey and
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enjoy it when you get there as well.
28:41
Exactly. Enjoy it when you get there.
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You have to embrace it. Yeah.
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So important. Oh, thank.
28:46
You it's been great. Thanks so much for coming.
28:49
Thank you for having me, I enjoyed this.
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