On Dwarkesh Patel's Second Interview With Ilya Sutskever

Don't Worry About the Vase Podcast · Dec 3, 2025 · 42m

Podcast episode for On Dwarkesh Patel’s Second Interview With Ilya Sutskever.* 00:00 - Introduction* 01:47 - Table of Contents* 02:19 - Explaining Model Jaggedness* 03:58 - Emotions and value functions* 05:36 - What are we scaling?* 06:47 - Why humans generalize better than models* 08:10 - Straight-shooting superintelligence* 09:57 - SSI’s model will learn from deployment* 10:59 - Alignment* 20:03 - “We are squarely an age of research company”* 25:15 - Research taste* 27:57 - Bonus Coverage: Dwarkesh Patel on AI Progress These DaysThe Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported…