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Grounded Show Ep. 57 - COD, Threads & Politics · The Grounded Show

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Yo, checked this out. Man, it's been a pretty uh crazy week.
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Last last episode we talked about how you know, were getting started with
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my wife Salona and everything. So been a lot of changes. So it's
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been hectic week. A lot of crazy storms here in Florida too. You
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know, it's been like either storming or super hot. It's crazy, man.
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But honestly, like, the one thing that's really like on the front
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of my head is last night's called a duty session. Man. Man,
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Joe, you didn't have the pleasure to be on for that one last night.
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Yeah, but you know, we had a nice, nice game of
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runs. I mean a nice night of runs, I would say, uh,
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man, we had like what like four second places. Quincy literally played
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probably like five or six games where it was like second place. Damn near
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every single game. Man, it was been It's been a blender, man,
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it's been a blender. I haven't played much, but the games that
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have played are very very similar. Yo. The best part right now is
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like I see Quincy's a little smile dog like it's coming. He's like waiting
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for it. So it's like just you're just making it like got the little
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smile, Like all right, Brook, I know it's coming. Just say
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a little bullshit he get that sh out of the way, yo, man,
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shout out to Angel and Ronnie dog Yo. They're getting a lot of
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burn on this podcast. Real talk. I'm about how to start charging them
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ass space. But anyway, Yo, we was playing Call of Duty last
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night, a little little quad a resurgence, you know what I'm saying.
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We've been on that resurgence ever since they brought back a Shika Island because I
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was I was not messing with that Vondal. It was just whack man.
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It's still whack man. It's still there. But whatever. So we're playing
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I think it what was it like the second first or second game? Quincy,
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like a second game? Like the second game, man, Like we're
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like the last team left against another team and we're like in a building and
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me and Angel died, Ronnie and Quincy's alive. Right, So you're in
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the building on the other side of the walls. To buy, So explain
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to buy because some people might not that stress all right. So in Call
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of Duty, basically, like the whole point is you want to outlast everybody
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else, like that's playing. There's like how many teams, like twenty something
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teams or something. Depends on it, but yeah, it depends on it.
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Like twenty something teams. Teams are four and you want to be the
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last team left. Like you know, it's it's a fight. It's a
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war game. So everybody got guns and stuff, so you're just basically trying
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to kill every other team. So there's a buy station, which is basically
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like it looks like a cash like a big cash register almost, and you
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go and you can buy like stuff that helps you in the game, you
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know, like you can get a radar to show where everybody's at. You
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can get like missile strikes, and another thing you can do is buy people
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back that die, Like if your teammates and they don't have like any revive
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or nothing left, you can buy them and they just dropped back on the
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map, as long as it got a lot of money, lost a lot
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of money, and I gotta have a lot of money, exactly, you
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gotta have a lot of money. The buyers aren't everywhere, so it just
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so happens. Ronnie and Quincy's on one side of the wall and the buy
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is on the other side of the wall, on the outside. So it's
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like all right, bet, so we know where the buy is at.
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We look at the bread, you know, it's it's four thousand to buy
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somebody back, right, Ronnie got seven thousand. Like for some reason,
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I'm looking at Ronnie's amount while Ronnie's talking like he's like, damn, man
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only got seven thousand, and I can get one. And then Quincy's like,
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bro, don't worry, I got you. I look at quincy'ston.
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Quincy got thirty seven thousand dollars, he says, on me, Yo,
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thirty seven thousand, and he needs four thousand to buy a person back.
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Me and Angel dead. That's eight thousand dollars. My man could have a
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clean twenty nine thousand left to do with it whatever he pleases. You feel
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me, y'all seeing the strapping up, wiping the sweat off your hands,
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ready to jump back in that game. We're ready. It's like, yo,
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the other team is like on the other side of the building, so
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they're away from the bye. We got a chance to get the you know,
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get the teammates back, regroup. We got more people than them if
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we buy everybody back, so we golden. It was like almost like a
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guaranteed win, yo, Yo, Quincy turns the corner, goes and hits
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the buy and like you see his like little icon in the corner and you
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see the amount of money he has next to the icon, right, and
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you see like the money's just going down down up next, going down down.
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Yo. Then he got like five K left, like five thousand or
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seven thousand and left, like yo, like what happened? Like all his
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money's gone, but we're still dead. And then Ronnie he's like, yo,
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what's going on? Is the game glitchen because you guys haven't come back
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yet. And then um he looks he's like, yo, Quincy, do
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you not buy them back? And he's like, oh were they dead?
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Oh my god? Bro. Like like the rest of the details I can't
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really explain because if you don't play the game, you won't really get it.
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But needless to say, we died and we lost that game second place,
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and it just set off a terrible night of nothing but second places.
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Bro. I know a story is gonna be hilarious. When I was getting
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out the shower and I see Yoda asked me in the chat, he just
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asked me just back to my name, and that's how he wrote something before
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I was like, oh, you probably wanted me to see that. So
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I'm getting dressed. I get dressed, I throw my Apple Watch on.
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I look at my watching this twenty five text messages. I was like,
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there's no way it must be behind because Yoda just text me before I got
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in the shower. And then it was the whole story said, there's so
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much to it. There was twenty five texts. Yeah, I just started
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dying laughing. And in that moment, I know, I know how much
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you heard, Quincy. I've done it before. I know the worst part
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about it, Joe, is that I was on dam like as far as
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like Nigga. I had just wiped like three teams and like in my mind
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I went to the by like, Yo, I'm gonna just buy everything,
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throw a load out. We're gonna have everything in front of us. I
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threw a load out. I had an air striker, had an UAV,
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I had everything and did not realize except for the teaving shout out to my
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homie is he man? Because like is he is? He had the story
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before Quincy. You know what I'm saying. You definitely took the crown,
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though, dog, because Yo, your mind stake Chrissy was there. He
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was there, just like, let's see what can that cough? Bro Bro.
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That was my mindset. I was like, yoa, I got thirty
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seven bands. I'm getting everything I can get, so we could take these
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niggas out. And then what happened after that was even worse because then I
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realized, oh shit, they're dead. Let me go back to the bye
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and I got murdered. Bro Bro. Everything you could do wrong, you
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did wrong. The man man, that was a fold. If I've ever
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fo yeah, that was I will take that. Like there's like a little
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loading screen in between games, like once you finish and the loading screen is
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like mad quiet and then the loading screen and then Runney just goes wow man
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shot yo yo. That to the Michael J. Fox thing. That Fox
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is a classic one. The oh the Izzy one I didn't tell yo yo.
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Shout out to my boy Izzy Man and Edgar Um. They're from Wentworth
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Man. So like every time we play, like we just be talking mad
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ship and it just be mad funny. So we're playing the regular war zone
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like that one, you don't even come back, Like if you die,
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you're done, and it's way longer. The map is way bigger, Like
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it's just way more tedious. So we're playing that one, me Edgar and
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Izzy Me and Edgar died like pretty early, bro, So like Izzy had
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to like find the money, you know in the game and find the buy.
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Yo. He's looking like he was doing this for like probably like seven
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minutes, bro, And like in a game, like while you're playing seven
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minutes, Bro, that's a long time and be just dead watching somebody else's
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screen, you know what I mean. So he finally gets the money,
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he finally hits the buy. We're like, yes, finally he goes to
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the buy and he buys a gas mask, and then he starts walking away
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from the buy like all I bet and we're like, is he bro,
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you ain't buy his dog? And he's like, no, I got a
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gas mask and gets the gas start coming in and you know what I'm saying,
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No, I ain't gonna lie, no, not all. That's still
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worse because I didn't know y'all was dead. Bro. That's worse. Bro,
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that's worse. That's worse. Dogs that fingers going do pause? You
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see that you can see my face clear? You buy one gas mask and
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see you the Jordan one you got a pair of Gucci sunglasses. You was
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chilling. No, that was funny, man, Yo. The funny thing
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about playing called the Duty Dog is like it could literally be like one of
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those nights where like you're literally you don't have a good time playing bro,
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Like you just get like there's certain games that you can lose and be okay
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with it. Like you was playing good you know what I'm saying. You
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lost on some random you know, thing that you couldn't control, but like
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them Knights, like I'm telling you, last night, we got none but
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second places. Like it was every game. It's like, Bro, like
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we could we could have clearly did something different to win it, like we
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always folded at the end. Bro. And my wife always knows, like
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when I take my headphones off, like if we won or lost that night,
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you know what I mean. When you're back to that loaded screen and
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they have those three pictures and you're just loading and you feel like those games
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talking about where a second place where you did something stupid to lose that ship,
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and it just sits like at the pit of your stomach. You're just
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like, oh, bo, that's why I was last night was rough because
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we had that and then like three second places after that where it was like,
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dog, we we needed a dub last ning. I needed a dub
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last night, Like you know what I'm saying. I feel that I'll be
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feeling like it's wasting my time when I don't get a dub, Bro,
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just be looking out the window. Side. That's when the new map came
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out. Less. It was like, how many dubs y'all get on that
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ship? Yeah? Facts, man, it's terrible. Bro. You have
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to live on those on those roofs, and the second you fall down,
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you're done. It's just and it's not even necessarily like the map itself or
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like really what it is, bro, it's just too much people. Bro.
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That one it has seventy something people instead of fifty people. So like
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that's why I like we'd be getting to the end, bro, and it'd
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be like twenty teams still left, and it's just going crazy. Like it's
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so crazy, it's all it's literally blind luck, bro, Like there's no
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there's no way. I mean, obviously you can have technique, like if
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you're not ratting, you know what I'm saying, if you're not just in
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a building kind of like watching the corners and stuff, you're not gonna win,
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Like you know what I'm saying, Like everything is chanced because there's buildings
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everywhere, there's doors everywhere, windows everywhere. Yeah, there's a million ways
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to get to where you're at yep, and ain't no way to memorize watch
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every single how everything goes, you know what I mean, even building you're
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not even gonna know like how many doors there are? Nothing, you know
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what I'm saying. It's crazy, It's just it's just too much. It's
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too much. I think there's a sense of reality when you're playing, like
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there's no way, oh human could possibly just do all that? Yeah,
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facts that Um. I will say this though, Man, that Call of
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Duty the last one, bro, it definitely was like the apex of Call
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of Duty till now, like the one that dropped before this. What is
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this one? Modern warfare too? Is Is that what it is? Yeah?
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What was the last one? It was just called Vanguard. Vanguard was
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the one with the factory right that was that was like that was like the
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apex, bro, Like that one is so fire that I'd be seeing now
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like when I'd be scrolling my social media feeds, like people are starting to
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just post clips from that, like just because they make so much yeah,
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like bringing the clips back like yo, remember this, and then like they're
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showing like old dubs on that map. You know what I mean. I
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love I love a little shippy to Algatraz. This is like the exact layout
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of Fire, Bro, and even like the jail cells and everything. Yeah,
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but I think you were the one that sent that. When I read
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that, like it even gives you like a better appreciation for the map,
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you know what I'm saying, Like even just how much they really said,
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like Yo, let's make it exactly like that, So it really gives you
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that feel of like have you never been there? And you go play that
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happen? You know exactly what they inside of Alcatraz looks like that's the You
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know, it's funny you say that because I thought about that too, like
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you know, because you always think about being a guy like that. You
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grow up on the action movies and stuff like that, Like you just think,
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like, dang if I get dropped in the Alcatraz one day, like
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I lay out, you know what I'm saying. The Rock was a fire
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movie, Bro, Nicolas Cage the Rock, ye little yo, that um
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that little nuclear Gael thing coming out of the little banishter Bro like that of
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the ship put me on edge, bro, Like no, like, yeah,
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that movie was fire Man Nicolas Cage. Yo, so is Nicolas kid
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to go to action? Start Start. It's funny that you say that,
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But now that you say it, I mean face off, Um, con
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Air National Treasure were action movie. I'll give a little Yeah, suspenseful action
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movies. Yeah, that's kind of a little stretch. He was sorry,
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that's like, that's like saying Da Vinci Code is an action movie. You
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know what I'm saying, Like just because they run in briskly Jackson, Yeah,
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some moves who Jackson? Yeah, I'm a big DaVinci Code fan.
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Well yeah, I've never read the books, but I love them three movies,
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Dog, The movies are fired. Man. I always like when they
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throw in the history in it and kind of a little twist and make you
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think like, oh man, that's crazy. Yo, it's wild. Um
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just thinking about the movies and just the idea that like, not even just
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specifically that movie, but it just reminds me of like, yo, who
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thinks of that stuff? You know what I mean? Like with the Da
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Vinci Code, like all the stuff they pull from like real things, and
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like how they weave it into like these crazy the ideas that when you really
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look at the history, like some of it is kind of supported, you
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know what I mean, Like it's just crazy. It's kind of like the
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thing where like you know, the when the pandemic happened and they had like
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a pandemic movie that was kind of out around the same time, you know
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what I mean. And it's like it kind of follows rhythms and stuff,
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and it kind of goes back to like something we talked about when we were
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talking about the deja vu and everything. It's like these these things, it's
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like what is it? You know what I'm saying? Is there really something
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special the vine? Is it just these things repeat and it's just bound to
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happen, Like like there's so many factors at play that it just makes your
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mind go crazy, you know what I mean, Like not go crazy,
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but it just gets your gears going. I do. But I think I
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think what we've we've tending to forget is the it's a factor in the odds
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of things happening. And like just like the Simpsons stuff, the Simpson's been
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on for like well forty something years. Yeah, over twenty twenty plus episodes
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for forty years, all those guests, is they bound to get something right,
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Like the probability of their then finally getting something right, it's gonna hit,
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and it's gonna hit like one random big thing. I was about to
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say, it's crazy though, because some of the stuff that they be getting
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right, it just be Yeah, it's kind of like you were saying,
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Joe, like like if you if you just if you just you know,
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bring the bring the topic in the air, like your mind is naturally gonna
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progress a certain way, like you know what I'm saying, Like the latest
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one is the Titanic sub thing, you know what I mean, Like if
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you think, oh, what if we do something with like a small submarine
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or something like that, Like you know, naturally you're gonna go towards like
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what if something happens to it? You know, it's a little submarine.
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You know it's a small crew, like you know what I mean, Like
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you're just gonna think of that if you're brainstorming for a show, you know
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what I mean, Like, there's only two ways it could go. It's
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a fifty fifty once you get to the subject, it's a fifty chance that
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you're gonna talk about what happened, you know what I mean. So it's
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kind of like you said, Joe, like the odds are in your favorite
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one, especially in those shows, like they're literally just trying to sup with
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ideas and content and just different spins on stuff anyway, Like that's their main
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goal every single day, Like what can we you know, what skit or
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whatever can we do on this show that's gonna make somebody look at it and
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be like, oh, that's crazy, you know what I mean? Yeah,
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do you know what I found out today? And it's probably a Simpsons
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episode. There is land that's being bought right right outside of Vegas here within
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thirty miles of Vegas and desert. And it's gonna be a spaceport airport but
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for space, and it's for space tourism and for people who are going to
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take trips to space and then trying to do fifteen trips a year. Crazy,
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they are building an airport to go to space. I remember when,
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um, when I was like I don't know, like early twenties, like
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when I was working at the airport and they kind of like unveiled like a
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concept because I was working not for Version Atlantic, but I was working with
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them, and they kind of unveiled this thing that Richard Branson was talking about
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where it was kind of like a thing where they would take like you're saying,
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like little flights to space where they're basically what they'll do is they'll fly
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to certain altitude right up the amount of time they'll break the barrier, go
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up there for a little bit, and then come back down. And that
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would basically be like you're saying, exactly that. So I wonder if they're
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involved in that at all. Yeah, no, But but it's not because
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I bet there's gonna be a Simpsons episode that's going to drop them taking tours
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in space like that, and they're gonna say symptoms predicted something else. And
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eventually all this stuff is gonna happen. It just the ideas they had came
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from progression of history and how things are evolving. So I guess that's what
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I'm saying. Eventually people are going to make the right It's like nostrodamus,
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how much shit did he guess? Exactly? He hit on some of them,
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but how much did he really try to get? And then if you
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if you got a very good grasp on psychology, and then especially you're in
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the early stages of civilization. I mean, just from the point of view
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of Notre Damis, it's like you're at a stage where there's still a lot
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of innovation to be had, you know what I'm saying. At the time
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that he was around. So if you're somebody that's pretty bright, you kind
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of see where things are going, and then you can understand how in people's
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hands, you know, all these advances are not necessarily going to be good
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because everybody knows that there's shitty people out there, you know what I mean.
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It's like, you know, eventually somebody should. You know. It's
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just like in the movies and stuff, like exactly what we're talking about.
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Like in the movies, they always try to build something and think it's gonna
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be for good, and then somebody, the wrong person gets their hands on
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it. The world almost dies, and then they realize like, oh,
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we can't do this because it's too much and there's somebody's always gonna try to
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mess it up. It's like that, you know, It's literally the same
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thing over like when you was an elementary school and you lost your recess because
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one kid was talking during class and you're looking at him like, Bro,
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you literally prevented all of us from going our side, like the whole class,
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Like none of us could play ball now, like just because you couldn't
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shut up, you know what I mean? That's kind of like all the
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stuff that be going on now, Like you know, political, just you
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pick it, bro, it's always because somebody had to ruin it for everybody
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else. Bro, what's your thoughts? You just said political, and it
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just made me think of So, what's your thoughts on the transparency that we're
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seeing now as far as politics? Like I feel like fifteen twenty twenty five
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years ago it was very secret like of what went on in politics, But
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I feel like now it's so public of how corrupt things are. What's your
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thoughts on that? Costal media? I think that's a key difference maker.
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I think the openness about how it is, the available the availability of the
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Internet and resources of information and it's live Twitter, and like I said,
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you look at demographics and you look at audiences, right, and you think
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of I don't want to get too into it, but threads, which is
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the Twitter of Facebook, meta people who have Twitter know everything quicker than anybody
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else out there. That's just that that's the most real time you get.
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You only get a glimpse of your timeline live and every social media I would
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let after that kind of just supposed. I think in his Instagram, I
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think, then his Facebook, TikTok is. I feel like all these apps
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have their own things, and I feel like Twitter was the first one to
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start putting everybody onto everything real time as it happened, live videos before they
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got taken down, before they got censored. Protests happen in other protesting,
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having other countries civil wars, and other countries injustices all that shit, and
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well injustice here. The whole Black Lives Matter movement was live on Twitter social
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media. I think that is what is a difference now, and that's why
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it's so transparent now. Yeah, that definitely is the biggest thing. It's
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like, and it kind of goes to like the whole theme of like the
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podcast and everything, just to kind of really tell you where I'm coming from
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with this. It's like, if you just solid, no matter what's going
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on, you're gonna be straight, you know what I'm saying. And that's
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the thing about politicians, man Like, when you really look at what it
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is and like that kind of lifestyle and everything, it's something that it's a
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it's an environment that's not created for anybody to be good. You know what
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I'm saying. It's literally impossible for somebody to I mean, I'm not gonna
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say literally impossible. But the thing we were just talking about, somebody always
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ruins and for everybody, man Like, when when you're in politics, you're
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in rooms of teams all the time, different teams doing different things. Every
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like, you're gonna have to get everybody on each of those teams on the
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same page as you and really to see your vision for you to really carry
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it out the way that you want to carry it out. But it ain't
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gonna happen, bro Like the people around you with some of them are gonna
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be greedy, some of them are gonna be lazy, some of them are
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gonna be questionable, some of them are gonna be good, you know what
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I'm saying. And those odds are just they're they're just not good, you
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know what I'm saying. Like, if you just even think about your own
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regular, everyday life, how many people you can actually count on bro like
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it's very rare few and far between. So imagine trying to find a whole
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bunch of reliable people like for the government, right, you know, you
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know what? What what? I just remember that I was studying for this
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project management stuff, right, And the whole shift of project management is soft
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skills and people skills. It's getting people on your side. That's that's really
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the only way you're going to succeed in the team environment. And when people
24:08
hating against you, it derails you. And it's and it's funny because it
24:12
says, like the whole way you communicate something like whether it's your plan or
24:17
not, if you don't make these people feel like they're involved, they're merely
24:21
gonna hate on you, and they're gonna ask whatever it is you're doing,
24:23
no matter how good it is or not. And it's it's the way you
24:27
communicate something. And I think that also plays a part in the person who's
24:32
trying to make a change and make a difference. It's getting people involved to
24:36
agree that it's kind of their idea too, and then it all comes together.
24:41
And I think I think that's the worst thing about any political environment,
24:45
and especially our politics, is that there's people who hate just to hate for
24:49
no reason, just because no funk with the way a person did something,
24:53
and the kind of we kind of went off a little bit what Quincy originally
24:59
said, but it just it ties into because like even that transparency that he's
25:03
talking about with the political parties and just with people in politics, it's kind
25:08
of forced. They kind of have no choice because there's so many cameras and
25:11
social media and things going on that they really have nowhere to hide. But
25:15
also what it does is show those flaws and show, you know, where
25:21
people's interests lie, you know what i mean, Like if you really just
25:25
kind of you know, the funny thing that people say in politics and stuff
25:29
like is follow the money, you know, but it really is what it
25:30
is. That's what it is and everything you know what I'm saying, and
25:33
exactly what you're talking about, Joe, Like, even in music, bro
25:37
Like, music is really just as far as like achieving a certain amount of
25:41
success, it's really just convincing one person that you warrant X amount of money
25:48
to put your art out for the world to see, you know what I'm
25:51
saying. It's not really like we're talking about with politicians. To relate it
25:55
to music. It's not a skill. It's not you know how much how
25:57
much managing people music? You know, it's none of that. It's if
26:02
that person's coming to the table with a with a team behind them that believe
26:07
in them, and a following, they're they're exhibiting where you're talking about,
26:11
Joe. They got them people's skills. They have the ability to maintain an
26:15
audience and make them feel like, hey, my cause is your cause,
26:18
so help me propel to that next level. That that dynamic and that thing.
26:25
That's something that just cannot be taught. It can't be transferred. Like
26:30
it's something that when people have it, Bro, if you don't capitalize on
26:33
it like that, that to me is like one of like that that's like
26:37
a true gift, you know what I'm saying to me, That true gifts.
26:45
And and I wouldn't even classify it as a talent dog because like it's,
26:48
like I said, Bro, you can't teach that to somebody. Somebody
26:51
could kind of pick it up and and learn the little, uh, you
26:53
know, little psychology tips and tricks to kind of make it work. But
27:00
if people just don't feel you off rip and just feel like, hey,
27:03
I like this guy, could get behind him, or I like this girl,
27:04
I could get behind her. Like if people just don't feel that from
27:07
you, like, you can't you can't replicate that, you know what I'm
27:11
saying. I know if you ro I know a short list of people in
27:15
my life that just got that kind of energy that like, whatever they feel
27:18
like they want to direction, they want to move in, they got everybody's
27:22
support for it, you know what I'm saying. And that's something that,
27:26
um, it's hard to find as a as a person, but it's also
27:30
something that you cannot like you can't envy, you can't dwell on it,
27:33
and you can't look and be like, oh man, why why is that
27:37
person getting this and that? And I'm not you know what I'm saying.
27:38
It's like, bro, like everybody's not gonna get every gift, you know
27:42
what I'm saying. And if that's not your gift, you know you,
27:45
like I said, you can't chase that. You can't you can't make it
27:48
happen. Like it's like it's kind of like the Kanye thing, you know,
27:52
he he let his genius show and he really like was not denied as
27:59
far as like as an artist goes. But when it came down to like
28:03
he wanted people to recognize him in a certain light and feel about him a
28:07
certain way. It's like, bro, if people just don't feel like that
28:08
about you already, you're not gonna make them feel like that. I'm trying.
28:14
But exactly he tried. He tried to get everybody look at him in
28:18
a certain kind of lighting. And you know, he really wanted to be
28:21
like, yo, like look at me like this because this is the type
28:22
of person I am. And it's like, bro, you can't tell people
28:25
how to look at you. You know what I'm saying. I just stopped
28:26
looking at him at that point. I'm to say if I say he was
28:29
in my top he got to my top two favorite artists. And I just
28:33
don't even listen to anything others old stuff, that's for sure. Yeah with
28:40
artists. Man like even like to tie it into like the whole gunn of
28:42
thing because he I posted something again talking about threads. I opened my account
28:48
today and it's pretty dope. Man. I like I like the I like
28:51
the option to have like a Twitter type thing, but not be Twitter because
28:55
Twitter just degraded so much, Like with how how the space is over there
29:00
that it's like not even fun bro. So like you know, you know
29:03
how it is bro anytime, and you built a new culture of disrespect that's
29:07
for super facts. And now with that direct time with your Instagram, with
29:11
the threads, it's like you can't really hide like you know what I'm saying,
29:15
Like people aren't really like troll and slash like having you're not able to
29:21
have troll accounts the same way. Like but let me I mentioned earlier,
29:26
do you feel like I feel like the people on Facebook. It's a whole
29:30
different group, like the exclusive the Facebook exclusive people, It's a whole different
29:34
group that definitely is a different crowd. But what I'm saying is when I
29:41
say Facebook, I mean literally Facebook from the point of view of you can't
29:45
make like like that. Yeah your Facebook again, Twitter you can account exactly.
29:56
Yeah, Facebook account. You can't just make like a pair, you
29:59
know what I'm saying. It has to be Yeah, you have to get
30:00
all the verified Yeah it's not. It's not easy behind like a fake account
30:07
on threads. You know what I'm saying. That is an approach. Yeah,
30:11
So I think that part of it is going to keep it more civil,
30:15
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, so yeah, so they gained
30:17
thirty million plus users in the first day, so those are genuine users with
30:23
but I mean yeah, but I also wouldn't. I'm not surprised, you
30:26
know what I'm saying, because let's be real. This morning I saw the
30:30
app, like I saw them talking about it, but I didn't pay any
30:33
mind to it. But then if you go on your notifications, you see
30:37
eight of my followers have sent out their first thread and now you're like,
30:42
oh shit, what's what's going on with this thread thing? And so it's
30:45
like the way they marketed it was was genius, you know what I'm saying.
30:48
I'm not that shit exactly. And it place to hang out. Man,
30:55
anytime it's a new place to hang out, everybody want to check it
30:57
out, see what's going on, you know, and they already had the
31:02
audience of Instagram, you know what I'm saying, And so it's import all
31:06
your settings come on. When I'm back next toth I'm on that say less.
31:12
Yeah, man, I feel like, um, Threads is definitely gonna
31:15
be the place where the grounded show is gonna really live and thrive. You
31:18
know what, I'm saying because it's like the perfect platform for it. But
31:22
but the reason why brander chat is going to turn into threads facts, and
31:26
the reason why I brought up the thread is because earlier I have posted something
31:30
on there just talking about like as far as like rap music, like actually
31:33
dope projects that have come out, and it made me think about what you
31:37
said, Joe, because like when I look at artists, when I'm looking
31:40
at you as far as like sonically, that's all I look at. You
31:42
know what I'm saying, Like, there's there's um let's say certain things that
31:49
I'm like, it blocks you in my head, Like you know, if
31:52
you're you know, a certain type of criminal. You know what I'm saying.
31:56
It was proven that you did something like super vile and you in jail
31:59
for it, there's something it's like, all right at that point I cut
32:01
you off. But as far as like being you know, you're not a
32:06
real thug or you're a jerk in real life, like all those kind of
32:08
details that are relevant to me. If the music's fired, you know what
32:10
I'm saying. Like, so like with the Kanye thing, bro, if
32:14
he drops music, I'm I'm gonna give it a checkout just because he's dope.
32:16
If it sucks, it sucks. If it's dope, I'm a rock
32:19
with it. I don't really care where he got going on as far as,
32:22
like I said, as far as not nothing like crazy that's crossing the
32:24
boundary, like as far as you know, you know, real harm that
32:29
he's doing or whatever. But you know, it made me think about the
32:30
Gunner project because like, that's like one of the projects recently that I've heard,
32:35
probably in the last year, like one of the top three projects that
32:37
I've heard, that's like the dopest ones, And I honestly haven't stopped listening
32:42
since That's why I remember you talking about it. And then when I was
32:45
getting my music, I saw so much of it on there. And now
32:47
even my boys in the other chat, who don't funk with that music,
32:51
after I told him that, they started listening to him more. It's like
32:52
it's different, and I don't see it like that. I don't see Gunna
32:57
in the form of his actions make me stop listened to his music. There's
33:00
certain artists I see that way, but Gunna didn't stop me. Said,
33:05
I'm glad I started listening to that shit, because that that ship is actually
33:08
really really good, good energy on that. And the Gunna thing is curious
33:12
too, and I'd like to throw it to Quincy to get his thoughts on
33:15
this. But it's like with the Gunner project, the way, not the
33:19
way I approached it, but after I really took it in and listened to
33:22
it kind of like a different way, I was kind of like, all
33:24
right, so this dude, you know, was in jail for for a
33:30
lot of months, you know, dealing with this trial. When you do
33:32
when you're doing that, obviously you off drugs, you know, you off
33:37
you off of like that crazy artist schedule on and everything, and kind of
33:39
it's just you and you know, you and jail. Russell is you and
33:42
your thoughts. You know, your your body's getting right, your mind's getting
33:45
right. He got out of jail. I'm listening to the project. The
33:51
one thing that to me stood out right away was no no features, which
33:54
is no because it was like, all right, he going through this whole
33:58
thing where everybody's talking about he a snitch and everything, and you know,
34:01
kind of like we've been talking about the street stuff. Bro, if you
34:04
ignore it, don't even exist. So I throw that. I throw that
34:07
out the window right away. But just from the point of view of him,
34:09
I'm thinking about it, like dang, So he just came right off
34:13
rip saying no features, this is all me. And the way he was
34:16
like rapping on it in a way the songs were and like the the vibe
34:21
and the and the energy behind it, like it really sounded like because I
34:24
always thought Gunna was super dope sonically, like super super dope, you know,
34:29
he would fall into that kind of like category of like people that's not
34:32
really saying nothing and it's not really any kind of serious music, but if
34:37
you listen to it sonically, bro, he's a great artist and this art,
34:40
this album, I felt like what he was able to do was kind
34:44
of like like clear up his brain and really like attack it in a way
34:50
where he's like matching the the sonic ability with actually like what he's talking about
34:55
on the album, you know what I'm saying, because you could tell he
34:58
was actually like trying to get a message across out on it, you know
35:00
what I'm saying. And it's just it was just funny and dope to me.
35:05
How like people looking at him like like in the street sense, Oh
35:09
now you saw for now you're this type of person. But then the energy
35:14
that he came with on the album in a way he was rapping on it,
35:17
it was like completely opposite, you know what I'm saying. So it
35:22
was like a I don't know. I really liked how he approached it.
35:24
I liked the sound of it. I like, um, I always liked
35:27
his sound period. Shout out to Matt Man. Matt was the one that
35:30
put me on a gonna like a long time ago. It was like probably
35:36
like a year or so after he really got like on the scene, but
35:38
before he really took off, and Matt was like, nah, bro,
35:42
he's super dope. And ever since then, I've been hooked. I was
35:44
like around twenty eighteen or something. But what do you think about that?
35:46
Quincy? Like, I know that, um, you know, just from
35:51
us saying out, I know that you're definitely at least like a casual Gunna
35:52
fan, like you like the vibes, but um, you know, just
35:55
with the whole situation how it unrolled and everything, and like with the new
36:00
music, like how did you how did you feel about it? So I
36:02
still have to give the entire album or listen. I did listen to a
36:06
good chunk of it. I know, Um that fuck you mean joint that
36:08
one. Before I even saw the video, Like the first time I heard
36:12
it, I was like, Oh, that's hard, you know what I'm
36:13
saying. Um, but I mean for me just as an artist, as
36:17
a hip hop artist and as an avid hip hop listener, I mean,
36:23
I just think that you know, all of the cloud stuff that people saying,
36:28
like the snitch and all that stuff that that has nothing to do with
36:32
the artistry, you know what I'm saying, Like, don't get me wrong.
36:36
You lock into the studio and you got the talent Gunner has. Bro.
36:38
Like it's like the same thing that happened with Rick Ross back in the
36:40
day. Bro, they had him in a cop uniform. Bro, Like
36:44
at a time where like you could not be anything but a super gangster bro
36:49
Like that was one time and wrapped that. Even if you got punked,
36:52
you're done, bro, Like, look at him now, he's literally one
36:54
of the you know what I'm saying, Like arguably, Like you know what
36:59
I'm saying, you look at him on amount Rushmore level, not like he's
37:01
up there, but now just right now, after like the whole cop thing
37:05
came out and right after he was still on their ass, like broil Rick
37:08
Ross Like it was like, I mean, I just think it's just you
37:12
know, it goes back and we've talked about it before. Man, that
37:15
that stupid street code stuff, man, Like, you know, people try
37:17
to translate that into artistry because it's rapping hip hop that you have to have
37:22
this certain street code. And I'm not saying that I don't. I still
37:27
don't know the situation with the whole Gunner thing because that's not my business really
37:30
to know. But at the end of the day, man, like I
37:35
know, like there's a lot of people, bro, that will shame me
37:37
for playing R Kelly because of the stuff that he did, you know what
37:40
I'm saying. And don't get me wrong, bro, the stuff that he
37:44
did is trash, Like you know what I'm saying. But at the end
37:47
of the day, you're not gonna tell me a person that enjoys and loves
37:52
music that I can't enjoy and love music, you know what I'm saying.
37:54
Like, Bro, all my old mixes have R Kelly and them, and
37:58
I've been thinking about it. I have to remove the track or not.
38:00
It sucks, yo, But it's like I get it. From the other
38:04
side where it's like, oh, well, don't support him, blah blah
38:07
blah. I get that, but it's like you can't tell somebody that loves
38:10
music and everybody that hates R. Kelly can agree that the man was a
38:15
talented artist, like you can't exactly exactly. So it's like all that aside
38:22
man R Kelly's one I won't listen to. It's the I listened to them
38:28
and Bro, when when I listened to it from the point of view of
38:30
like, I know who he's talking to, Bro, Like it's just there's
38:34
a bunch of people. I know the person, Bro that I I'm listening
38:38
to. I know every single word of every song I listened to, Like
38:43
I'm listening to it in depth. Like honestly, Bro, that's why I'm
38:46
not a Kid Cuddy fan, because I don't understand what he says. Dog
38:50
Like he's just been mumbling on the songs. I don't understand what he's saying.
38:53
It's it's a good vibe and everything, but I can't listen to it
38:57
because I don't know what you're saying. Bro, you know what I'm saying.
38:59
And to me, that's the thing with the R Kelly stuff like it,
39:01
just it'd be too much sometimes. Don't get me wrong, I'm not
39:06
yeah I about to say that, Don't get me wrong. There's definitely my
39:08
limits because the sexual joints, it is a little uncomfortable. But you're telling
39:13
me, Dog, I can't step in the name of love. You know
39:15
what I'm saying? Crazy part brow always talking about and I'm telling you,
39:21
Bro, you're talking to a dude. That my first piece of music that
39:24
I ever owned, that was mine like that. It's like, Bro,
39:29
this is mine. I went to like a thrift when I lived in Texas.
39:31
Bro, we went to the thrift shop that was like in front of
39:35
our complex. Dog. They had a couple of tapes, right. The
39:38
first one I grabbed was Space Jam the I Believe Right. The second one
39:46
I grabbed was off the one I swear my two And there were tapes.
39:52
Bro. That's telling you how old I am and how broke I was,
39:55
because tapes wasn't even really a thing when I was a kid. Dog,
39:59
it was just he was poor. But remember his track the World's Greatest?
40:01
Of course, yeah that is. There's people in my life who know for
40:07
that how much I love that song. They know me just for that.
40:09
R Kelly was the go to me bro. Yo. My childhood I'm gonna
40:15
tell you right now, my childhood was R. Kelly and Bill Cosby Brom
40:21
was a great judge of character. I feel like I feel like I mad.
40:25
I mean my Rasha Bro. Have you ever seen that picture of him
40:29
with his best man at his wedding? Brothers O J. Simpson and who
40:34
was the other one? It was my rash oh O J. Simpson and
40:38
r and uh Bill Cosby bro best man at his wedding Like damn, Bro,
40:45
I don't know. I don't want to hear about that bachelor party tell
40:47
you that. But now that was my whole childhood, Bro. R Kelly
40:52
and Bill Cosby Bro, and they both broke my high. Those were tough,
41:00
bro, Those those were tough for us to deal with. The tire
41:02
bike tied all back and if I could drop my ship so we could wrap
41:07
it up. Um, I do have a bunch of mixes coming out.
41:09
I have all my own mixes I found. I'm still trying to tie if
41:13
I want to remove some of the art. Kelly tracks Hey, real quick,
41:17
I know you dry and ornery, but let me get this in real
41:20
quick. Um uh. For the Bill Cosby one though, for real,
41:27
for real, Like the R Kelly one. I was a big fan,
41:29
but it's not that serious. But the Bill Cosby one, Bro, Like
41:31
he was like my dad when I was a kid, Bro, Like that
41:35
Cosby show really raised me. Bro, Like I learned life like between like
41:40
Bill Cosby taught me like the the hardy stuff, and NAS taught me like
41:45
the street stuff. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, and Dog.
41:49
When I found out that, when that Bill Cosby thing went down and all
41:52
this, I was like, oh man, not Bill. Dog. Yeah,
41:57
that's tough. And then it always makes me think the show Bro,
42:00
Felicia was shot. She was talking to one of the kids. I forgot
42:04
exactly what it was about, but I remember the quote exactly. Bro.
42:07
She said the will is strong, but the flesh is weak. And always
42:12
that I always thought about that. That quote always stuck with me. But
42:15
when that whole Bill Cosby thing went down, Bro, that's the only thing
42:19
I could think about, Dog, the will is strong talking to him?
42:22
Crazy? Bro? Crazy, But my bad, what are you saying about
42:25
your mix? No? Trying to decide if I want to keep our Kelly
42:30
on there Man, I have a lot of R Kelly stuff on there and
42:34
just trying to like have that discernment and like should I really care about that
42:40
or should I just put out what I originally made some definitely, Uh,
42:45
I'm still debating, but let's just say this. Let's just say that you
42:49
got to look at from that situation, is this, Are you gonna care
42:53
about the feedback either way? M That's what I was doing. If it
42:59
doesn't matter either way, Like, if you're not gonna pay attention to it,
43:00
because you know, the noise is gonna come either way, even if
43:05
people agree or disagree, it's gonna come. If you know you're not gonna
43:08
care about it either way, do whatever you know either way, do whatever
43:12
you want, you know what I'm saying, But just know the noise is
43:15
gonna come either way. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. It's
43:20
basically like if you're trying to you know, we were not in the same
43:24
you know, time as when R Kelly was when you was doing those mixes,
43:29
so you know, the audience is different and the R Kelly thing too.
43:34
Bro. Like I've had this conversation with people before, and like people
43:37
have really like I've had dudes like not come at me, but like you
43:40
know, have like a little side conversation with me, like like almost like
43:45
trying to like get me on the side about it. Like it's really serious
43:47
to people, bro, And it's like, Bro, I'm not I'm not
43:50
looking at you no type of way. I'm just getting We're talking about it,
43:52
and I'm telling you my opinion, you know what I'm saying in particular.
43:55
But like somebody else that will try to like try to get like reason
44:00
with you about it, It's like, Bro, yeah, I know,
44:02
if I could take it out and the mix still sounds good, I'm gonna
44:05
do it. But if it doesn't, and if it sounds better with that,
44:07
I might leave it in there. So we'll see. But I'll say
44:10
this, man, it does go back to kind of one of the main
44:14
points of this is that you know, everybody's living their own life, bro,
44:17
you know. And and just because I'm listening to R. Kelly and
44:22
by free time and I'm not bothering you, don't bother me. You know
44:25
what I'm saying. Literally nothing to do, you know, listen or not.
44:30
Bro, you might just be like in your room with your head in
44:34
the air like this right, and then you get three drops of honey and
44:37
then you put your tongue to the left and you just go oh for three
44:43
hours straight when you're at home, Bro, And I would never know,
44:45
never know, yeah, never know. That'd be a fun night. That
44:50
would be a pretty fun night. Though. You think you you you think
44:53
you can live stream that and get like people to like catch on, like
44:59
standing like been doing that. There's live streams of nothing, of just people
45:05
just sitting there. I bet you that shit could actually succeed. Bro,
45:08
Do you think we could pay somebody to, like, every night for a
45:13
week, one hour do something like that, Like, but they have to,
45:16
like, they don't get the money unless it's a one hour straight live
45:20
stream just looking in the air, three drops of honey. The noise.
45:23
I don't even know what noise I did, so we have to listen to
45:27
the playback to figure out the noise. But like, how much money you
45:30
think it would cost? Basically seven hours, bro, an hour a day,
45:35
three drops making a noise with your head in the air. How much
45:38
money will it take you for you to do that shit? I probably can
45:42
find a crack. I can do it for twenty dollars. Let's looking like
45:47
yo, fruit, I ain't paying nobody nothing to do nothing. Oh man,
45:55
Yo, but make sure y'all check us out on threats, man,
45:59
because we're gonna get to get the discussion going over there. I feel like
46:02
it's a good spot to to have the uh the podcast discussions and in the
46:08
scuttle buck going so once once Joe comes back from his uh one month deep
46:16
you in it? What's today? The July sixth? How deep you in
46:20
it? Right now? Uh? No social media, it's been two weeks,
46:24
two weeks. ID activated the day after my birthday, which is the
46:29
twenty second of June. No social media, No drinks then, it's been
46:32
two weeks. Yeah, no alcohol either. No alcohol. Uh, it's
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definitely I've been I've been on the yo. There's no way you didn't do
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that on purpose. No way, yo. No. The craziest part about
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it is that I meant it in the most encere way like cheers today.
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Oh no way, brog you villain guy. It sucks. Yeah, it's
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not good, but only for a motherfucker. Don't get it twisted. I'm
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back, Joe, Joe, just bro, you was about to start floating
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like dal seen when you started going into that monologue. All you see is
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Quincy fears, Mike hey whoa, my god, hey man catches on threas
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and stay but not, do not, do not be m