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RHONJ Pt. 3 REUNION: Who's IN and Who's OUT! · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos King.
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  Speaker 2: Ray drops yes on today's episode of Reality with the King.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my loves I have back, y'all favorite, He's my favorite.
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  Speaker 2: When we did a recap of Jersey a few weeks ago,
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  Speaker 2: Oh honey, Bunnies, we broke the internet. This man gives
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  Speaker 2: But today we are going to talk about part three
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  Speaker 2: of the Real Housewives of New Jersey reunion. I have
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  Speaker 2: loss to say, and you know he does too. Welcome
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  Speaker 2: David if I'm behind the bever Bro podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Carlos, I mean, what is going on?
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  Speaker 1: You know what isn't going on?
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  Speaker 2: So let's just get right into me because I already
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  Speaker 2: know how I made you operate. Yeah, we started this
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  Speaker 2: season really saying this is Melissa's last season bathe upon
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  Speaker 2: what we just watch, do you still think melissa time
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  Speaker 2: is up?
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  Speaker 4: Based on the reunion? If I'm going to take a
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  Speaker 4: step back, who do I think won the reunion? Quote
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  Speaker 4: unquote between Teresa and Melissa? I think Melissa. I think Melissa.
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  Speaker 4: I mean she had a great reunion.
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  Speaker 3: I think she was cool.
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  Speaker 4: I think she was calm. I think she was collected.
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  Speaker 4: I think she had good arguments. I do think Teresa.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't even know if she said anything.
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  Speaker 4: You know what, Carlos to answer your question, and if
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  Speaker 4: none of that matters, it don't matter. It don't matter.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think this. This was just a waste of
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  Speaker 4: everyone's time, this reunion. At the end of the day,
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  Speaker 4: I stand by you are not going to fire Teresa.
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  Speaker 4: Gu DJ Judies, however you want to say it.
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  Speaker 3: You hate her, you love her.
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  Speaker 4: Louise is a violations, these are all. This is a
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  Speaker 4: waste of everyone's time and energy. Melissa had a better
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  Speaker 4: reunion than Teresa. The MVP for me of the reunion
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  Speaker 4: is Teresa, because she sat there saying to.
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  Speaker 3: Herself, none of this matters. I will never see you
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  Speaker 3: guys again.
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  Speaker 2: And it's true yeah, I agree with you that I
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  Speaker 2: thought Melissa did a great job as reunion and I
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  Speaker 2: said to myself, is because she stopped trying to be
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  Speaker 2: this likable person. I don't think Melissa is inherently likable.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think she's inherently genuine. That's okay. There's tons
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  Speaker 2: of housewives who aren't that way that we love, you know,
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  Speaker 2: And I felt like in this reunion, it's like, finally
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  Speaker 2: we get to see the real Melissa. She didn't care
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  Speaker 2: about salvaging this relationship. She didn't care to say like, no,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I love you, peace, love and rainbows. I
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  Speaker 2: felt like she said, all gloves are off, our bets
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  Speaker 2: are off, and let's just go there. And I also
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  Speaker 2: agree with you that it doesn't mean her performance determines
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  Speaker 2: her position right now, because it's bigger than that. It's
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  Speaker 2: much bigger too, It's much bigger than you. Finally, finally,
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  Speaker 2: after over ten years, you finally performed well out of reunion.
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  Speaker 2: Because prior to that, which is why she's always been
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  Speaker 2: second se or third seed sometimes first. Teresa has never
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  Speaker 2: left her position after season two of having first seat,
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  Speaker 2: So we have to look at the longevity of it
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  Speaker 2: and Teresa at the end of the day, You're right,
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  Speaker 2: she said there, like I just don't care anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I have nothing to give.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to sit here and just know that I
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  Speaker 2: don't have to see you again.
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  Speaker 4: I think that scene with Andy Cohne, like in the
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  Speaker 4: third part, where it was like they were backstage and
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  Speaker 4: he's like, come on, let's just go get this done,
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  Speaker 4: that was like when you and I talk when we're
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  Speaker 4: not on air, Like we're on air, we're being very
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  Speaker 4: natural now, but when you talk it's like behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 4: you don't.
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  Speaker 3: It's so subtle. That was the like, le let's just
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  Speaker 3: please finish this, Let's just get this over. Come on, girl.
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  Speaker 4: It's like that's like an old family member that it
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  Speaker 4: was so telling to me. I mean, look, no, he
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  Speaker 4: didn't say they're not going to be here, and I
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  Speaker 4: don't even think he really knows, but it's the subtlety
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  Speaker 4: that this is how you talk to someone that's clearly
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  Speaker 4: going to be here, and it's so clear. And don't
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  Speaker 4: get me wrong, I do think and we'll get to
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  Speaker 4: who else is going to be fired and everything. I
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  Speaker 4: think they want to keep Melissa. Why wouldn't you want
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  Speaker 4: to keep Melissa and Joe work.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, they love they Listen.
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  Speaker 2: I would go on record saying I believe they love
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  Speaker 2: Melissa and Joe Gorga.
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  Speaker 1: I think they love Joe Gorga more.
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  Speaker 2: But I think this, if it wasn't for Joe Gorga,
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  Speaker 2: I think Melissa would have been fired years ago.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, and yes, but yes and yes and so
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  Speaker 4: I And by the way, here's what I say to people,
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  Speaker 4: because people are like, you're wrong Louis Is. So you know,
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  Speaker 4: I mean Louiss And we can get into Louis. That's
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  Speaker 4: a whole another we are we're gonna get But here's
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  Speaker 4: the thing. Let's just take a lot of drugs and
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  Speaker 4: go into an alternate universe here. People, let me, just
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  Speaker 4: for Devil's advocate, agree with everyone. Let's say that, okay, fine,
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  Speaker 4: you think Teresa and Louis are going to go. Let's
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  Speaker 4: pretend that now what we got rid of Teresa and
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  Speaker 4: next season, the New Jersey House wind it's going to
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  Speaker 4: be called the Real House West of New Jersey is
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  Speaker 4: going to come back, and the number one og on
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  Speaker 4: the show is going to be Melissa, and there's Margaret,
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  Speaker 4: and this whole show is going to be centered a round, Melissa,
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  Speaker 4: Let's just really think of what people are saying when
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  Speaker 4: they say Teresa's going to go, there is think about
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  Speaker 4: there's you're making your face that there is zero percent
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  Speaker 4: chance that is going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: Zero.
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  Speaker 2: You have a better chance of seeing Anderson Cooper host
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  Speaker 2: the reunion show then for Melissa to ever be the
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  Speaker 2: force multiplier, the queen, be the face of Real Housewives
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  Speaker 2: of New Jersey, It's not going to happen. And again,
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  Speaker 2: I said this once and I'll say it over and over.
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  Speaker 2: At one point in time, Melissa was fantastic for the show.
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  Speaker 1: She honestly was.
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  Speaker 2: But let's be very clear, it was courtesy of her
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  Speaker 2: storyline being with Teresa. If you subtract Teresa from Melissa's
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  Speaker 2: story and I'm just being very honest here, and I
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  Speaker 2: have receipts to back it up, and the receipts are
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  Speaker 2: the seasons. Melissa has never had an a story that
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  Speaker 2: had any weight. The only thing she has ever given
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  Speaker 2: up is I'm looking for my lost long sister girl bye.
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  Speaker 2: I want to have a baby, girl please. It's the
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  Speaker 2: storylines that you've seen be recycled across all franchises, across
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  Speaker 2: all reality shows including nagy Day's Beyonce or sixty Days In.
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  Speaker 1: It's the same shit, and.
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  Speaker 2: If it was real, you would have produced a sister,
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  Speaker 2: you would have produced a baby. The only thing Melissa's
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  Speaker 2: capable of producing is herself when it comes to Teresa's storyline.
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  Speaker 2: So because of that, you're not going to see the
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  Speaker 2: network in my opinion, get rid of Teresa and have
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  Speaker 2: the show be about Melissa being the queen Bee with
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  Speaker 2: Margaret and Jennifer Aiden at Dolores. So let's get right
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  Speaker 2: into it. The reality of the party reunion one of
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  Speaker 2: the bigger accusations, and there's several to talk about David,
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  Speaker 2: the first one being Louie and Frankie Junior going their
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  Speaker 2: separate ways as it relates to business. So what happened
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  Speaker 2: was Frankie Junior was working at Louie's establishment and he
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  Speaker 2: no longer works there. Frankie Senior and Joe Gorga could
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  Speaker 2: not wait to talk about whatever happened. De Laura shut
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  Speaker 2: it down. She shut that shit down and said we're
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  Speaker 2: not doing it. She even thanked Louis, thank you for
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  Speaker 2: giving my son the opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: She shut it down, and to Andy's credit, he said
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  Speaker 2: what we all were thinking, Well, this just raises more
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  Speaker 2: questions because you guys aren't talking about it now. Delores
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  Speaker 2: obviously is protecting her child. What made it so weird
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  Speaker 2: to me? And I'm just being very honest. It was
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  Speaker 2: sort of like this glee that Joe Gorga had in
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  Speaker 2: terms of trying to spill the tea that I felt
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  Speaker 2: was a little off putting because if the mother is
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  Speaker 2: saying I want I don't want to talk about this,
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  Speaker 2: then I think as a man, you should respect the
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  Speaker 2: mother saying shut.
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  Speaker 1: It down and just keep your mouth shut.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to expose this situation when it involves
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  Speaker 2: someone's kid. Yes, Frankie Jr. Is of course over the
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  Speaker 2: age of eighteen, but at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, he's not contracted to do the show.
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  Speaker 2: He probably wants nothing to do the show anymore. And
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  Speaker 2: I respect Dolores being a mom protecting her cup, which
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  Speaker 2: also brings me to this, David. This whole accusation of
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  Speaker 2: Gia another child, yes, over the age of eighteen, but
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  Speaker 2: a child nonetheless being accused of telling uncle Joe Gorga
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  Speaker 2: that he could do better than Melissa. So Joe Gorga
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  Speaker 2: revealed that Teresa called Gia. Gia denied it, and Teresa
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  Speaker 2: left the scene of the crime because she was so
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  Speaker 2: emotionally hurt by it.
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  Speaker 1: What did you think about all of that?
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  Speaker 2: And do you think Joe Gorga is telling the truth
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  Speaker 2: or he's lying or should he have said anything at all?
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  Speaker 4: It's like, so where I you know, I smiled and
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh God, Carlos, because I knew, I know
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  Speaker 4: for a thought about this Laura situation. And I know
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  Speaker 4: for a fact that Frank was not lying, and I
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  Speaker 4: know that that is, I understand what Laurus was doing.
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  Speaker 3: And I know this for a fact.
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  Speaker 4: This one is a little more tough for me because
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  Speaker 4: I don't know it is for a fact. But this
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  Speaker 4: one's tough, right, Like, I just can't I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: what do you think?
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  Speaker 2: I mean?
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  Speaker 3: I can't see Gia saying that. Can you see if
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  Speaker 3: it's the thing?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? So obviously I know Jia since she was a
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  Speaker 2: little girl doing pageants. And one thing I will say
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  Speaker 2: about Gia, and this is coming from somebody who has
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  Speaker 2: known her since she was a child, but also somebody
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  Speaker 2: who has watched her girl up to be an adult woman. Jia,
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  Speaker 2: from what I've seen and what I know, she has
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  Speaker 2: no problem coppying to stuff. She's very direct. She's her
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  Speaker 2: mother's child. She's very much like. We've seen Gia check
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  Speaker 2: her uncle on camera. We've seen Gia shade her aunt
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  Speaker 2: in a sense of like, I don't want to talk
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  Speaker 2: to you, like we don't have a relationship. I And again,
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  Speaker 2: y'all can call me stupid, and it's fine. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think she said it. What I think happened. I think
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  Speaker 2: Joe Gorga. And this is this what makes me so
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  Speaker 2: mad at Joe Gorga, because at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: you are a man. You're a man, and you have
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  Speaker 2: to stand up as a man and not involve your
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  Speaker 2: niece slash god daughter and the mess between your wife
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  Speaker 2: and your sister. These are grown adults. They both sign
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  Speaker 2: up to be on the show. Let them fight it out,
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  Speaker 2: and you're gonna choose your wife, and that's your prerogative,
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  Speaker 2: and that's fine. But the fact that you are so
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  Speaker 2: thirsty to make your sister and her family look bad,
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  Speaker 2: that you would involve your goddaughter slash niece into the mess.
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  Speaker 2: And I think Teresa's emotional reaction had to do that.
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  Speaker 2: My brother would stop at nothing. He would use me,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm used to that. He'll use my ex husband Joe.
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  Speaker 2: I'm used to that he's now using Louis. Fine, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying Louis is like this perfect person. We'll
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  Speaker 2: get to that later. But I think Teresa drew the
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  Speaker 2: line with you won't stop at my child.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, And the thing is, look, when you
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  Speaker 4: are dating someone you know for nine months and now
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  Speaker 4: you went ring shopping and you come home and you
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  Speaker 4: tell the family I'm about to pose to this person.
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  Speaker 4: That's when you're like, listen, I have to stand up
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  Speaker 4: here because you're going to walk down the aisle plan
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  Speaker 4: a wedding hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions, and.
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  Speaker 3: You could do you could do better, right, you can
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  Speaker 3: do better. I think you're barely speaking to these people
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  Speaker 3: at this point. You mean to tell me out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 4: Gia decides to have a heart to heart and say,
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  Speaker 4: like your wife of how many years, twenty years.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever it is, I mean, you can do better. Leave her.
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  Speaker 4: I mean that is just a strange thing to say.
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  Speaker 4: With three children and this far and it just you
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  Speaker 4: don't say it right. That's the agree with you say it,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the first date, the third date, when you're
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  Speaker 4: meeting the parents, and before you propose, not now, so
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  Speaker 4: it's weird.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And the fact that your god daughter Slash needs called
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  Speaker 2: you to say, uncle, Joe, do the right thing. This
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  Speaker 2: is your sister. And because, in my opinion, Joe allegedly
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  Speaker 2: just wants to make good TV at anyone's expense. I strongly,
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  Speaker 2: fundamentally believe that he wanted to make good TV at
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  Speaker 2: the expense of this because him not showing up to
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  Speaker 2: the wedding because of something they told you before filming
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  Speaker 2: even commenced. You didn't care about it then, so why
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, forty eight hours before the.
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  Speaker 1: Wedding, you're not showing up, and then you are.
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  Speaker 2: You're posting on your Instagram the day of the wedding, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: hanging out with the real family, Like, dude, be a man,
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  Speaker 2: Be a man and stand up to do the right
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  Speaker 2: thing for your sister.
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  Speaker 3: Funny.
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  Speaker 4: Josephina Gorga is the most dramatic housewife and possibly the
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  Speaker 4: history of housewives. Okay, Josephina Gorga. I believe is the
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  Speaker 4: is a toxic, dramatic person. To be honest with you,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, look, Teresa and Melissa hate each other, but
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  Speaker 4: I mean I blame Josephina more than Melissa.
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  Speaker 2: I can't take a call him Joseph But I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 2: I gotta stop you. What I say to you, David,
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  Speaker 2: I want to scream inside this microphone. That is probably
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  Speaker 2: one of the funniest things I've heard all month. Josepha
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  Speaker 2: Gorga on the Patreon with Kim D.
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  Speaker 4: We call Joe Josephina and Louisa's Louisa.
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  Speaker 5: We have Louisa and Josefina Gorga, and now I got
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  Speaker 5: Kim D saying it every week on the pat Art
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  Speaker 5: And like my my listeners not fans, and if they
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  Speaker 5: are fans, I love my fans.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like Melissa Gorgon.
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  Speaker 4: But my listeners now referred to Josephina as Josepa, So
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  Speaker 4: range drops.
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  Speaker 3: If you didn't know this, Joe.
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  Speaker 4: Gorga behind the velvet rope is only referred to as Josephina.
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  Speaker 3: So you are giving Joe.
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  Speaker 4: You're giving this person a lot of credit for standing
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  Speaker 4: up and doing the right thing. I say, Josefina is
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  Speaker 4: one toxic, dramatic Beyonch and you can quote me on that.
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  Speaker 2: This is my father the best siest episode of reality
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: with the key in the history of the podcast. And
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  Speaker 2: guess what, I'm loving every minute of it.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm just you're the best.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just literally, I mean, I really have nothing against
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  Speaker 4: these people. I think it's because I know so much,
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  Speaker 4: like the same way you know all these little things
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  Speaker 4: about the Atlanta It's just I truly do know these.
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  Speaker 3: Things, and I don't know. I mean, and I'm a
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  Speaker 3: holding back a lot. I mean, I hate it. There's
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  Speaker 3: a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Oh really, I'm scared.
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  Speaker 4: There's just I mean, it's just it's just yeah, And
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  Speaker 4: listen to your point.
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  Speaker 3: Kim has been saying.
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  Speaker 4: This for years that Melissa and like to your point,
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  Speaker 4: because you say, you know, this is the realist we've
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  Speaker 4: seen Melissa. This is what Kim has been saying on
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  Speaker 4: the podcast every week. When Teresa and Melissa made a
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  Speaker 4: pact way back that Teresa had no one to film
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  Speaker 4: with and they said, let's make up for filming and
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  Speaker 4: keep our salaries.
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  Speaker 3: Like, look at these women have hated each other.
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  Speaker 4: They've never not hated each other right, they faked for
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  Speaker 4: the camera, toned down this. Even Andy said, thank you both,
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  Speaker 4: I guess for having such a real season. This was it,
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  Speaker 4: This was the realist. Yeah, you guys want real reality TV.
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  Speaker 3: This is it.
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  Speaker 4: And now Bravo has like their eyes are they don't
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  Speaker 4: even know what to do. They haven't slept in months
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  Speaker 4: to people have Bravo pr this. They don't know what
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  Speaker 4: to do day as But let me tell you something,
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  Speaker 4: Just like with bots and racism and a child getting
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: bullied in high school, just like Beverly Hills, they were miserable,
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  Speaker 4: they're miserable. So Jersey is a change in guys, It
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  Speaker 4: is a change.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show. One of the things
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: that came out this reunion is the allegation that Marca
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Joseph pays bloggers.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Is that true? Allegedly?
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: I allegedly believe that's true. I heard and I and
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: these bloggers.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Are D lists. D List.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: Nobody I would ever collaborate with nobody, you would ever
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: collaborate with your D list? So I'm not even I mean,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: could I mention that do I know the names of
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: some of them, you know, dads and moms and all
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: this other crap. But I'm not even gonna this would
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: be a shout out. It's like when Melissa's mentioning a
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: me on her podcast that she has one so whatever
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: million followers and thank you. I'm not even going to
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: give thank you all the pleasure of bringing them on
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Carlow's King rain Drop David Yanton behind the Belderine platform
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: because it would be an elevation, honey. But yeah, no,
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: I mean I heard she gave this one five for
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: five hundred dollars.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: That's it, in a Starbucks gift card. And just yes,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: look the whole.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Reason Margaret and I are not friends, the whole people
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: people think that Mike Carlos is laughing. Guys, Yes, five
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: hundred dollars. But look, do I believe that Margaret pays bloggers? Yes,
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: I do, I honestly and truly because I know, I
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: know they they have five hundred gift card this case.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: And by the way, I don't know if I said
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: this on your show before, you know, I won't mention
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: the name of the publication, but a major publication, because
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: you know, I work with the media and get my
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: show out there.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Amazing.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Oh no, honey, we saw you on the Hulu Hunty
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: talking about the randal scandal of an All Babies. So no,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: we know that David is a household name. He was
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: on Hulu. If you miss it, check it out. He
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: was amazing.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Continue, please thank.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: You, Darling.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: So this publication, very big publication, said I have to
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: tell you David, like this person said, I get calls
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: all day, not Beverly, there's not one franchise.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: She's like, New.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: Jersey Margaret Melissa aid, they all call put this story
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: out about this one I got all day.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: She's like, and this is from a rep. This is confidential.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: It's not like they're trying to They're like, let me
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: tell you, so imagine this like imagine like I say,
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: a People magazine. It's not People. I'm just giving an
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: example that they'll get a call from Margaret. I got
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: tea on ter Lisa. Let me tell you something, Hey,
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: I know I called you an hour ago. I got
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: something else to tell you. Hey, And I mean then
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: the paper has to say, well, okay, we don't just
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: run a story.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Trust me.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: I've gotten calls from major publications like we have to
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: fact check this from four reliable sources speak to us
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: off the record, is this true or not? If I say, listen,
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: I know for a fact this is true. And here's
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: why that ain't good enough, they don't have.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: To call this.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: So yeah, papers, it's reputable, at least most of them.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: But like if you see something on a paid six
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: or a TMZ or something, it's it's been checked.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: By a lot of sources. Doesn't mean it's always right,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: but it's so.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: Can you imagine like a Margaret calling all day and
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: trying to put shit out about Teresa and then say,
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I mean maybe Teresa is doing the same thing and
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: Melissa and so they said, there's not one franchise that's
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: that engrossed in calling us, in driving us crazy the
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: New Jersey. So yes, Marge, my belief is with certain
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: facts that I have that Margaret pays bloggers allegedly.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, I've heard the same.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: Okay, And by the way, that's why we're not friends anymore.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: People think that we're not friends because I had Laura,
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: her ex best friend.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: On my podcast. That's that look, that was I think
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: The end, but for sure, yeah, that was the nail.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: On the coffin. But way before that.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: I'm not a blogger, podcast or whatever you want to
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: call me that can be paid. So all season, when
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: Margaret wanted me to put out her narrative on my
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: podcast and be team Melissa, Team Melissa, Team Alissa, I'm like,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: that's not how this behind the development rope show works.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: I take it people are like you and Kim dr
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: flip floppers. Yes, that's we are. Each week we provide
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: what we have witnessed. One week, I have an issue
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: with Teresa, one week I have an issue with Melissa.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: Then I have an issue with Teresa again. It changes
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: every week based on what I am hearing and.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: And that's called a good thing.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: So when Margaret basically wanted me to be team Melissa
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: all season and anti Teresa, I'm like, my duty is
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: to my audience. That's all I care about, not to you,
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: and that is really where our friendship. I'm like, there's
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: nothing you can do for me. I don't need the
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: five hundred, I don't need the one thousand. She never
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: offered me money. I'm not cleaning that, but she wanted
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: me to put her narrative out there, and I'm like,
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: that's not how this works.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Go on, it gets messy, that's the thing it gets.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: It gets messy. One of the messiest things that came
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: out this episode part through Reunion of New Jersey was
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: the fact that Dina Man's and her husband were mentioned
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: and these allegations that they fell out over business dealing.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Dina Manzell has been silent over what's going on. The
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: only thing she said was they were filming and she
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: didn't want to be a part of it, which is
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: believable because at the end of the day, Dina doesn't
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: want to be a part of the show anymore. She's
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: made that very clear. But there's still this word fallout
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: between these friends. What do you think about the supposed
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: allegation that Dina Manzel's husband and Louis had a business
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: deal that went wrong and that is the reason why
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: this falling out happened? Or did you hear something else?
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: No.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: I heard that and you know, based on my research,
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: and I believe that's one hundred percent true. Look, I
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: don't think Dina wants like I think Dina, you know,
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: and everyone's like Dina said Dina said, Gina said, I
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: don't care what Dina said anymore than I can don't
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: care what Anti Cone says when he says there's no
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: New Jersey pause. Well, New Jersey films traditionally two weeks
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: after it ends. That's not happening, Andy, it's a pause.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: I understand you've been told by your boss, boss's boss's boss,
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: who makes even more money than you, to backtrack as
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: the face of the network, and now you have to
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: sell books, and as you're selling your books, you're being
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: asked about this, and I understand that there's no pause. Well,
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: there is a pause in the sense that we're not filming,
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: and that the girls were told to have a great
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: summer and we're going to the girls were told have
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: a great summer, and we're not sure when we're filming again.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: That I mean, I was told that directly.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, now things change by the minute. So do
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: I think that they could start filming in September?
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Sure? Do I think they could start filming in January? Sure?
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: But they were told, like we truly do not. It's
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: not like have a great summer. You know, here's your
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: contracts are going out. We'll see you in September, or
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: it was like have a great summer. They were told
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: you can go fly wherever you want, you want to
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: go to, you know, on a safari in Africa. Go ahead,
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: your cell phone doesn't work, that's fine, enjoy That sounds
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: like a pause to me. That sounds like I have
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: a great summer. And then there was like, we don't
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: know when we're filming. We'll have to figure this out.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: So that sounds like an indefinite pause, which could be
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: a year, it could be three months.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: It just means like they gotta figure this out, believe
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: it or not. I think the shorter the pause, the
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: less good news it is for Melissa, because I don't
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: know what there is to figure out, Like we'll get
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: into that in a second.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: But there is a pause.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: So just like Andy could say there's no pause, but
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: there is, Dina can say all day of course, like
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: I don't think Dina has a problem with Teresa. I
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: think if they saw each other they were cordial. Dina
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: does not want to be Dina as Namas day all day,
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: not like Teresa Nomas day where she says that and
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: then is basically storming off and slamming doors, and that
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: is why we love you, Teresa. But Dina is truly
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: her podcast is about like, look, Dina's one of the
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: only housewives that hasn't been behind the velvet rope she.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, Dina probably would come on my podcast if
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: I wanted to talk about, you know, holistic healing for
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: an hour. But I guarantee you people would say, sweetheart,
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: if you mentioned the word real housewives, sir Teresa, we're
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: hanging up on the zoom. So I don't know what
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: the point of this talk is, but I guarantee you that.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: So Dina really does not want She's not a lot
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: of these housewives.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Oh I'm over it. No, she really is over it.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: So she doesn't even want that.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: Narrative out there. So I think she's saying this to
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: shut it down. She has nothing against Teresa, she'll never
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: speak out. But no, I think her and you know
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: Day from my sources are like, let's just completely distance
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: ourselves because we have seen some things with Louis that
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: we just that this isn't kosher and good luck to them.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: We have no harm, but we want no part of
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: this deviousness.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I agree with you. I also heard allegedly
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: that there is a pause, but that the pause has
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: nothing to do with deciding whether or not they're going
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: to choose between Melissa and Teresa, that a large part
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: of it allegedly has to do with Louie. What we
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: learned during this reunion was Margaret alleging that Louie reached
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: out to her son at his job and threaten him,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: and she provided receipts of phone records where Louie admitted
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: that it is my cell phone number, but I didn't
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: do it. I am hearing that the ladies are saying
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: they don't feel comfortable allegedly being around Louie, and that has.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: To be figured out.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: What do you think about these accusations of Louie contacting
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Margaret's son and hiring private investigators to do background checks
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: and find dirt on these housewives and their husbands.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: This one is so complicated in layer, yes, because first
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: of all, you have this woman, Margaret, who just lies.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: She just lies, So you got to start with the
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: fact that this woman is lies. Now people have blown
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: up these these listeners, these listeners, you you viewers, you
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: guys are so I mean, you and I were talking
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: before we went out I didn't even know Needy leaks,
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: wasn't it, and that She's like, I don't. I don't
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: realize anything. Guys like everyone gives. I mean, I know
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: shit in the real world, and that's my value. But
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: I don't notice. People are like, did you see it?
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: So people blew up Marge's receipt and they're like, well,
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: it's like a picture of a picture of a So
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: people have blown that up and she held that up
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: and are saying like that don't look like a receipt
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: to me.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Now, I'm just putting that out there. That's what people
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: are doing.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: But I mean Louis says he never hired bo Dedal,
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: which I mean Boddle has said this, so we don't
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: you know, I trust bo Dedal with my life. Of course,
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: you know I'm going to be hiring mister Didell if
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: iren the end.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you, girl, I ain't any other calls.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, you want to come for me, Melissa, guess what?
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Like you know?
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: But so look if this one's complicated, because they're saying
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: that you can like spoof someone, I guess which can
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: call someone with your number on a landline. I don't
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: know how any of this works. I mean, Louis is
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: saying it's my number. It's just I don't know. I mean,
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: here's the thing, this is what I want to know.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Is there really a police report? Did Margaret really go
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: to the police? That is what I would like to know,
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: because I think Margaret is smarter than I. You go
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: to the police with a false claim and you're in thought,
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: Oh baby, excuse language, rain drops, but you're in trouble.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, so you're sorry, go ahead.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: So she is someone who we know doesn't pay her bills,
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: she's someone who's been sued, she's someone who has done
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: some bad things.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: But I don't think Margaret.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: Is dumb enough that she would go and involve the
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: actual authorities when she is just and this is a lie.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: So I'd like to know is they're really a police report?
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: Because if there is, I tend to then believe it.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: But I where's the police report? Because I mean, people
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: have now blown this up and I don't know what
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: that was.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think to your point, the Jersey fans are
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: so invested that if there was a police report, we
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: would have seen it on all the blogs. And I
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: think if Margaret allegedly and somebody who pays blogs. Then
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: I think the police report right would have shown up
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: if that was the case.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: And that's the reason.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Why a lot of people are giving me shit, like
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: you don't condemn Louie. You never say anything bad about him, Carlos.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: You always like you're such a tree thugger because you
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: know I call her thug it's tree thuggers now, David,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: you're such a tree thugger that you won't admit that
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Louise carry And I said to them, I'm facing Louie
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: off of what I've seen on the show, of the
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: episodes I've seen, and I said, Guys, I work in
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: reality television.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I know that things can be doctored.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: On one of my other shows, Love and Marriage Huntsville, David,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: there were accusations of the phones being tapped because what
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Andy said is happening to the housewives and including him.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: How these numbers appear based on Like, for example, if
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Melissa Gorga is calling Andy, the phone would say Melissa Gorga,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: but it could.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Be a bot.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: And I'm saying that's true because that happened to my
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: cast on another show, And how does it work? Okay,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: So it's called like it's a spam. Okay, So what's
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: happening with the housewives that Andy said is all of
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: the housewives, not just Jersey. It's happening all across the franchise.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Is their phone would bring and the name will pop
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: up of a particular housewife, right and when they answer
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: the phone, you're thinking like, oh, it's the housewife whose
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: name I see on my cell phone.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: And sometimes it's not.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: It could be a totally different person, a fan, a scammer, anybody.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: And Andy has said that this has happened to him.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: I'm saying that is true because on one of my
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: other shows, a cast member accused someone of tapping their
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: phone lines and trying to.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Find on information.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: But it's sort of this cross reference of like, who's
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: you know calling somebody based on the name that appears.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I'm saying all of that to say because Markert provided
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: a receipt that and listen, I'm talking as a producer.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: They showed Jackie Goldschneider's receipt of Jacqueline texting her. When
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: they do that, guys, when they blow it up to
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: the full screen, it's because they have validity that this
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: is real, because you don't want to get sued in cases.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Not that's why they blow it up. It was a
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: real conversation.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Don't you find it interesting that in this alleged receipt
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: that Margaret had Louie calling her son, Allegedly, they never
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: blew up the receipt. They could have blacked out the
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Louis cell phone number. So to your point, you just
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: I just don't know. I don't know if he did
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: it is disgusting and he should be condemned if he
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: did it. If he did it, unfortunately, I just don't know.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: Well, as a producer, you now have me thinking like,
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: why didn't they blow it up? I never thought about that,
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: and Carlos is producer, why didn't they blow it up?
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Listen, people give me shit all the time too.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: They're like, you know, I don't even know when did
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: this podcast become so one sided?
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: I'm like, it's not really one sided.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: I am not a tree thugger, I'm not a tree stump,
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: not a treatment her. I just Melissa has personally come
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: for me and I had to snap the bitch down.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: I'm over it now, Like one thing has nothing to
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: do with the other. The fact that I think she
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: is going has nothing to do with my dislike for
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: her or my life for Teresa.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: I don't necessarily loved Theresa. I got some issues with
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: her too, but there is.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: A warmth to her in a genuine iss yes, that
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: Melissa does not possess. But I agree with you. Why
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: didn't they blow it up? They blow everything up, they
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: show everything ever you know they Why why wouldn't they?
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: I mean that's a pretty big piece of information.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: No, no, it is, and that's why I said to everybody,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: you can't every housewife nowadays has a receipt in a
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Manila envelope that they got them Kinkos.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: It's the same.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: It's to the point now where receipts, like you said
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: earlier about Melissa is using it. I'm over the word receipts.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Stop it. It's beginning played out and predictable. But I
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: looked at it through the lens of a producer of
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: if that was the case, they blew up Jacqueline's text message.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Why didn't they blow up these receives Margaret has? And
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: maybe it's because they could not really legally say this.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: This document looks real.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Not saying it was fake, but I'm saying you always
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: have to look at things that meets the eye. Now,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: the biggest question we have in this episode, David, is
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: the future of the Real Housewives of New Jersey. I
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: stand by my case that you're not going to have
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: my list in Teresa back the same season. I don't
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: care how great Melissa performed, and I agree with you
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: it was her best, best, best performance of all time.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I think the writing is on the wall. Now, this
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: is my prediction.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, tell me, I do predictions.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I do believe that the network and everyone involved
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: loves the Gorgas, and I get it because of Joe,
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Joe's great or Josephina. Okay, so there's no Jersey without Teresa.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Sorry, be mad at me. I hate listen.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: I don't like saying it because I produce other shows
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: and you never want a star to believe that the
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: show cannot move on without her. I look at facts.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: They put the show on palls when she was in jail.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: That indicates Melissa can I carry your show on her own?
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Ramona allegedly not being asked back for Ronie and them
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: rebooting the entire franchise is because they know you can't
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: do Ronnie. Without Ramona, you just can't tam or Judge
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: not being on oc suffered and they brought her back
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: after putting her on Palls. We'll see how Biverly Hills
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: is going to do, David. They're already saying it's not
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: enough drama because Lisa Rena is gone.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I believe she'll be back.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: To I sell that to say those tree huggers, the thuggers,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: and the stumpers, they will pick it at all of
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: the offices if Teresa does not come back.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: And at the end of the at.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: The end of the day, creatively, you can't continue that
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: show without Teresa.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: You can without Melissa.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: So with that being said, either one or two things
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: is going to happen. Either they're going to give Teresa
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: a spin off and say, Teresa like have the Lache
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: lay on Merrow's place. You are a guest star on Jersey,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: will see you in big events, you can make appearances,
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: and that way Melissa stays or Melissa is on pause.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Will Melissa be fired? No, I think she would be
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: put on pause for a year to see how the
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: season progresses. And secondly, to give them Melissa versus Teresa
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: a break.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: I kind of agree with some and many see this
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: is what I think.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: I think that go ahead tell me I.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: Agree with you.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: I just am like it's not And by the way,
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: like Louis, people say liability at all of this, but
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: there is more there. I mean, Teresa's job is not
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: in jeopardy. If she were dating a school teacher who
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: was like quiet and buy the book and a nice
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: humble man, she happened to hit TV reality TV gold.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, once again, Teresa is just I mean people
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: Bravo's thrilled with Louis. They don't care. They won't have
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: Jen Shott until she was going to jail. Like if
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: Louie is up to no good, Bravo don't care. The
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: day that he's whatever and whatever illegal things allegedly and
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: all this which mate, they'll say goodbye and they'll kick
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: his ass to the curve. But till that happens, Bravo
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: will gladly film with him. That's all a legend.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: We don't even know. So Louis is not a.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: Liability to the extent that we're getting rid of Teresa.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: I agree with you, it's never going to happen. I
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: do think that person if you put everyone's name on
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: the whiteboard. As you know, as a producer, you take off.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, if anyone out there listening cares, I just
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: ran into Jackie Goldschneider a few weeks ago.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: I like you, Jackie. We take Fessler and Jackie's off
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: when we throw it in the garbage. Does any want care? No?
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: Sorry, Jackie, You're not coming back. Then we have I believe.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: Actually the next name, the third name to come off
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: that board is Margaret's. I think Margaret actually comes off
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: before Melissa, because well here's what I think, because you
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: need look, we're not taking a look. This is like
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: the rented situation. When this comes back, this is going
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: to feel just like Beverly Hills, where we hear there's
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: no drama. I actually think Bravo wants that Jersey style,
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: so there'll be some you know, thugness, as you say,
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: but they want we want to distance ourselves. So when
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: it comes back from a pause, Beverly Hills is going
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: to be like Lisa Renno was never there. It's going
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: to feel so we're not coming back to tie up
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: all these loose ends. We're going to come back and
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: reset the whole damn show. So They know that Margaret
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: is associated with these pain bloggers and all these alleged things.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: They they she has this around her, and I think,
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: to change this show. If you're going to get rid
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: of Melissa, you get rid of Margaret too. It's nothing
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: to do with me disliking her. I just think to
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: reset the show. If Melissa is going, Margaret also is
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: up there. She's making what seven eight hundred that? What
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: is she in her?
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: How many years?
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: It's a big ticket, you say them about two point
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: eight million dollars right now by getting rid of these
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: two people or two million where I think they will
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: get rid of Melissa, Margaret Fassler, and Jackie and move
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: forward with everyone else. I think if Melissa goes, Margaret
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: is going with her, and I think I do, And
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: then I think, and by the way, I know this
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: for a fact. I don't know if everyone knows this
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: the rain dress, but I know for a fact this
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: is a fact.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: This is natural.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: They're interviewing right now, like New York, in New Jersey,
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: they are truly meeting thirty one.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: To maybe forty.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: They're not going to say this it's illegal, but they're
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: interviewing women in their thirties early forties. Like when I
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: say now, I mean like yesterday, last week.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: The interviews are happening. They're talking to people night and day,
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: day and night right now, not tomorrow. Today. These interviews
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: are happening now.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: We would like try that in New York and we
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: didn't find anyone and we had to fire the whole
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: cast and start over. So I'm not saying that they
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: are on the verge of finding someone, but these interviews
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: are happening right now.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: So if anyone out there lives in Jersey and they.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: Also would like really really really rich too, that they're
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: they're trying.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: So I believe that's the most likely case.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: The only other thing I can see is they get
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: rid of everybody, give Teresa her own spin off and
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: just move forward with Danielle Cabral and Rachel Fuda and
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: just it's like New Jersey Housewives two point zero. But
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: I really think that's the less likely situation. And I
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: really think Teresa stays on the show, and I think
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: there is zero and like, think about it, if Melissa
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: goes and Jackie Infestler and Margaret stays Mark, it's still
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: too toxic. Teresa just said she's done with Margaret. It's
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: too They want this to come back and be fine.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: There's gonna be drama.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they a drama, but they want to refresh.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't know. Margaret is just it's not
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: gonna work. It's not gonna work. It's gonna be too combative.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: Like I think, it's just a chance. And by the way,
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: her story Listen, Margaret was a great housewife. Melissa was
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: a great housewife. It's like, what is Margaret's story going forward?
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: Cabral We don't know anything about her yet, Buddha, there's
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: so much more there. We got a Laura and when Margaret,
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: I think her time is up. I really do so.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: I really think that's what's gonna have. That's my prediction.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: Whoo.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Well, Ryan Thobs, let me know woo. This is obviously.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I've gone so far in my show
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: as to saying one hundred percent.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: So if Melissa is on this show.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: Next season, Carlos, they are gonna nail me to the cross.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: They are coming for me because I have gone so
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: far as to say there's like zero percent chance. So
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: if Melissa is dot Man, people are wow to destroy
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: which is okay.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: It is what it is, but I'm gonna get you.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: It's okay, listen.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Anything can happen in the land of Real Housewives, as
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: we have seen and learned, So it's okay, It's okay.
• 48:20
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• 48:23
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• 48:29
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• 48:32
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• 48:35
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• 48:40
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• 48:59
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