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The Rita Panahi Show | 26 October · The Rita Panahi Show

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  Speaker 1: Starting right now, The Rita Panahy Show. Good evening and
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  Speaker 1: welcome to The Rita Panahy Show. I'm James Morrow filling
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  Speaker 1: in for Rita. Here's what's coming up tonight. In Victoria,
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  Speaker 1: the coalition surges ahead with Jess Wilson confident they can
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  Speaker 1: secure a majority. Meanwhile, over in France, Marine Le Pen
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  Speaker 1: has kicked off her campaign off the back of another
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  Speaker 1: weekend of violent protests. In America, the Democrats have brought
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  Speaker 1: back Barack Obama as they campaign for the midterms, and
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  Speaker 1: he took a swipe at President Trump's White House stylings. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: Prince William has left Robert Irwin blushing after referencing his...
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  Speaker 1: python very interesting that and leftist news again we're going
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  Speaker 1: to have that for you here too it features another
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  Speaker 1: woke celebrity angry at you'll never guess israel So edgy,
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  Speaker 1: so stunning, so brave. But first, the coalition is on
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  Speaker 1: track for a commanding victory in the Victorian election a
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  Speaker 1: month from now. The latest news poll puts the coalition
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  Speaker 1: ahead 55-45 on a two-party preferred basis, widening the lead
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  Speaker 1: from 52 to 48 in July. Labour's primary vote has
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  Speaker 1: plunged four points to just 24% since the previous poll,
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  Speaker 1: while the One Nation rose one point to 20%, along
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  Speaker 1: with the Greens, who are struggling along at 14%. Opposition
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  Speaker 1: leader Jess Wilson also boasts a big lead as preferred
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  Speaker 1: premier leading Ben Carroll by 48% to 34%. It puts
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  Speaker 1: the coalition in poll position to lead Victoria without... the
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  Speaker 1: help of One Nation. Joining me now to discuss this
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  Speaker 1: and a lot more is Deputy Executive Director of the
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  Speaker 1: Institute of Public Affairs, Dan Wild, and News Corp senior
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  Speaker 1: writer Patrick Carlyon. Patrick, I'll start with you down there
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  Speaker 1: in Melbourne. This is quite interesting, these poll results. Does
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  Speaker 1: this mean now Jess Wilson, they don't have to worry
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  Speaker 1: about doing deals with One Nation, they will win this
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  Speaker 1: in their own right? Is that what these polls are saying?
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  Speaker 2: Look, that's what they're saying, James. And it's interesting.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if you look at the longer-term picture down here,
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  Speaker 3: it's been 12 years of essentially the same government, which
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  Speaker 3: has provided world-class corruption, world-class.
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  Speaker 1: Death and world-class potholes.
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  Speaker 3: It rained over the weekend. And, you know, driving around
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  Speaker 3: Melbourne and Victoria, there are more and more holes. And
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  Speaker 3: I think people just want... an alternative. They want this
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  Speaker 3: government out. And I think it has sort of coalesced,
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  Speaker 3: as you suggest, and as this poll suggests, towards actually
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  Speaker 3: having a strong alternative government rather than that coalition with
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  Speaker 3: the One Nation sort of crowd.
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  Speaker 2: It'll be interesting.
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  Speaker 3: So, look, there's still a month away. We've still got
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  Speaker 3: plenty of time to think about this and people to
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  Speaker 3: change their minds. But I think pushing out of Labor
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  Speaker 3: is the highest priority for all Victorians.
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  Speaker 2: I think, at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: Dan Wild, we know that Victorians tend to vote in
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  Speaker 1: coalition governments or conservative governments only after all other options
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  Speaker 1: have failed and under the most grudging of circumstances. How
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  Speaker 1: is Jess Wilson going to cope with the incredible mess
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  Speaker 1: that will have been left for her by Labor? And
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  Speaker 1: when that starts meaning, you know, having to make difficult
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  Speaker 1: choices and trade-offs, Is there a danger that Victorians say, oh, no,
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  Speaker 1: it's all too hard, we'd rather just live in corruption
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  Speaker 1: and squalor, please?
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  Speaker 4: No, I don't think so. I think those days are over.
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  Speaker 4: The worm has clearly turned for Victorians. I think it's
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  Speaker 4: become pretty apparent how broken the state is, you know,
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  Speaker 4: everywhere you turn. I mean, Patrick mentions the potholes, which
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  Speaker 4: are a day-to-day manifestation of a broken government that doesn't
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  Speaker 4: have any more money. and that has run the state
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  Speaker 4: into the ground, obviously the switch to a new leader
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  Speaker 4: has failed. And also what's interestingly, when you look at
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  Speaker 4: the numbers, I think if you add coalition and one
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  Speaker 4: nation together, you're at about 53 or 54% primary, which
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  Speaker 4: I think is astonishing for the two centre-right parties, or
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  Speaker 4: the three centre-right parties, if you add the nationals, to
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  Speaker 4: be well over 50% primary vote is quite extraordinary. So, look,
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  Speaker 4: I think it's lights out for Labor. People have had enough.
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  Speaker 4: It's been there for 12 years. they've done a lot
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  Speaker 4: of damage to the state and, you know, Victorians are
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  Speaker 4: looking for change.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they absolutely are. And it's got a long
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  Speaker 1: way to go, but we all hope Victoria does make
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  Speaker 1: it because it's a beautiful state and it deserves a
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  Speaker 1: lot better than what it's been getting lately. Hey, this
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  Speaker 1: story here, guys, this really, really annoyed me. This morning
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  Speaker 1: when I read this in the Nine newspapers, Treasurer Jim
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  Speaker 1: Chalmers has challenged those who are angry about the government's spending,
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  Speaker 1: saying those advocating for more cuts should nominate what they
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  Speaker 1: would slash. He said the government is facing more pressure
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  Speaker 1: to lift spending on industries like defense and the economy.
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  Speaker 1: care economy. Dan Wild, this just struck me as, well,
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  Speaker 1: a load of rubbish because, you know, we know there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things that you could cut very easily
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  Speaker 1: and nobody would notice them except for the bureaucrats, maybe,
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  Speaker 1: who won't keep their jobs. Well, you're exactly right.
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  Speaker 4: Look, this is an abdication of leadership by Jim Chalmers.
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  Speaker 4: Can you imagine someone like Peter Costello saying that? Can
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  Speaker 4: you imagine someone like Paul Keating saying that? Jim, it's
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  Speaker 4: your job to balance the books. At the moment, the
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  Speaker 4: economy is moribund. Spending is growing far faster than the
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  Speaker 4: economic growth rate of our country, meaning that spending is
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  Speaker 4: eating up more of.
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  Speaker 1: Our entire economy.
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  Speaker 4: It is your job as Treasurer to be responsible for
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  Speaker 4: and to outline to Australians how it is that you
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  Speaker 4: propose you're going to pay down the debt and get
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  Speaker 4: the budget into order, not fob this off onto other people.
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  Speaker 4: It is reasonable for Australians to be saying government spending
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  Speaker 4: is going too fast. The Reserve Bank of Australia has
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  Speaker 4: made this clear in nominating government spending as a key
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  Speaker 4: driver of inflation. And if Jim needs a bit of
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  Speaker 4: a tip of where to go, why don't you start
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  Speaker 4: with a net zero bureaucracy worth tens of billions of dollars?
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  Speaker 4: That would be a great place. How about you end
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  Speaker 4: the rorts with the NDIS? There's another place for you. So, look,
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  Speaker 4: at the end of the day, this is, as I say,
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  Speaker 4: an abdication of leadership by Jim Chalmers, who is just
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  Speaker 4: fobbing it off onto everybody else.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, I think that's right. I mean, why not
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  Speaker 1: add in the Department of Education when the federal government
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  Speaker 1: doesn't run a single school? But, Patrick Carline... Does Jim Chalmers,
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  Speaker 1: is Jim Chalmers sort of asked a little bit panicky
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  Speaker 1: here because I noted another interview he did today where
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  Speaker 1: he said, oh, well, you know, sure, it's true. I
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  Speaker 1: spent a lot of time in windowless rooms and maybe
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  Speaker 1: I need to talk to my colleagues more. Is there
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  Speaker 1: an indication perhaps that Jim Chalmers might be one for
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  Speaker 1: the high jump?
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  Speaker 3: Look, I don't think he's spent enough time in windowless rooms, James.
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  Speaker 3: To be honest, if you look at this budget and
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  Speaker 3: all the unintended consequences, we're still talking about it five
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  Speaker 3: months later. We talk about it every week, don't we?
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  Speaker 3: We're talking about the latest sort of take on the
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  Speaker 3: world's most ugly budget of all time. And it wasn't
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  Speaker 3: done thoroughly. And from what I'm hearing from Canberra, Chalmers
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  Speaker 3: is just sort of being, you know, isolated within the Cabinet.
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  Speaker 3: And he is the face of frustration, both for those
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  Speaker 3: Labor ministers and for the rest of us who are
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  Speaker 3: suffering for a really poorly executed budget. And as Dan says,
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  Speaker 3: he should be taking... He should be accountable for it.
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  Speaker 3: He should be responsible for it. He should be owning it.
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  Speaker 3: And to sort of be passing.
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  Speaker 1: It off, it does.
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  Speaker 2: Panicky, I.
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  Speaker 3: Think, is one of the words that you would reach
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  Speaker 3: for to describe... what he's saying at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's quite extraordinary. And one has to wonder,
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  Speaker 1: 18 months is an awful long time in politics, whether
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  Speaker 1: or not he makes it. as treasurer to the next election.
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  Speaker 1: My money is he doesn't. But, hey, let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: small business here who are doing it really tough here.
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  Speaker 1: News Corp has relaunched the Back Australia campaign, aiming to
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  Speaker 1: encourage Australians to purchase Australian goods. It comes as small
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  Speaker 1: businesses are being strangled by complex award classifications, regulatory duplication,
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  Speaker 1: and so much else across all levels of government. But
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  Speaker 1: this new survey by the Growth Intelligence Center found more
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  Speaker 1: than 7 in 10 people believe small businesses should receive
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  Speaker 1: larger tax breaks. Dan Weil, to start with you here,
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  Speaker 1: is this economically orthodox to say, well, if you stay
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  Speaker 1: under a certain threshold, you might do better on your tax?
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  Speaker 1: Or should maybe we be thinking about lower corporate taxes
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  Speaker 1: for all corporations?
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  Speaker 4: I think it's a good idea to lower this small
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  Speaker 4: business tax rate. I think it's something that needs to
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  Speaker 4: be done. It already has a lower statutory rate than
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  Speaker 4: big corporates, and I think that's probably fair enough, given
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  Speaker 4: that most big corporates don't like Australia. So why should
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  Speaker 4: they get a tax cut? I mean, you know, half
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  Speaker 4: of these big corporates are woke. They run down the country.
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  Speaker 4: They don't make the case for economic reform. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I remember when there used to be titans of business
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  Speaker 4: that would actually engage in debate arguing about why we
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  Speaker 4: need to fix the economy, not just for their bottom line,
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  Speaker 4: but for the betterment of the nation. Now they all
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  Speaker 4: bang on about welcome to country, support a voice to
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  Speaker 4: parliament and everything else, and then they wonder why Australians
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  Speaker 4: don't support them. So, yeah, I think small business deserves
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  Speaker 4: a break. You know, the other point that I'd make
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  Speaker 4: is that, you know, small business in many ways is
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  Speaker 4: sort of the enemy of the Labor Party because most
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  Speaker 4: people in a small business, they're not easy to be unionised.
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  Speaker 4: They're likely to be independently minded, risk takers. They're out
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  Speaker 4: there having a go. They're not collectivists by mentality. Now,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not saying none of them vote Labor or anything
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  Speaker 4: like that, but it's sort of anti-ethical to the collectivist mentality.
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  Speaker 4: So it's no wonder they're getting steamrolled by a federal
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  Speaker 4: government that couldn't care less.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And Patrick, I mean, it's an interesting point that, too,
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  Speaker 1: because also I've heard it suggested that, you know, big
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  Speaker 1: corporates don't actually mind all the regulation and so on
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  Speaker 1: because they can work with government to shape that regulation.
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  Speaker 1: And it's all the better for keeping, you know, newcomers
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  Speaker 1: into the marketplace down. We know we have a huge
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  Speaker 1: problem with oligopolies in this country. But do you think, Patrick,
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  Speaker 1: that your businesses in Victoria could do with a bit
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  Speaker 1: of at least tax relief, even if they're not getting
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  Speaker 1: the regulatory relief? Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Look, they've been smashed on so many levels, James.
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  Speaker 3: And I thought the interesting statistic out of this latest
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  Speaker 3: research is that Australia's regulatory burden on small businesses.
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  Speaker 2: Is 33% higher than the OECD's.
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  Speaker 1: Average. That's massive. And it is anti-growth. It's anti-investment.
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  Speaker 3: And I look to Mike Schneider, the head of Bunnings,
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  Speaker 3: who's been banging on about this for years.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to cut the regulation.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to get the investment going. And it should
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  Speaker 3: be one of the highest priorities for any government right now.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's absolutely right. I think it's spot on.
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  Speaker 1: I think, you know, these small businesses, they need to
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  Speaker 1: have a chance to become the big businesses of the future.
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  Speaker 1: And they can't do it under the current settings. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about, you know, we've seen all
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  Speaker 1: of these horrific protests across France, across Europe now. But
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  Speaker 1: all these Australian radical student groups, well, they have decided
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  Speaker 1: they want to bring the mayhem here. And they vowed
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  Speaker 1: to stage an anti-capitalism, anti-one nation rally on November 11th. A.K.A.
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  Speaker 1: Remembrance Day. Now, this has drawn widespread condemnation from veterans,
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  Speaker 1: but state governments are tucking their tails between their legs
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  Speaker 1: and refusing to step in and say no. Dan, while
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  Speaker 1: the students say the date's just a coincidence, do you
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  Speaker 1: buy that at all?
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  Speaker 4: I actually do buy it, given, unfortunately, how ignorant so
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  Speaker 4: many young people are. It would not surprise me to
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  Speaker 4: learn that they weren't taught this at school. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't really like to get stuck into
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  Speaker 4: the kids because in many ways they are victims of
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  Speaker 4: a broken culture and a broken education system. So, you know,
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  Speaker 4: this is a much broader issue than just that. The
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  Speaker 4: other question I have is where are their parents? Surely
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  Speaker 4: their parents would say something about this. But, no, I
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  Speaker 4: think the state governments should come in and say, no,
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  Speaker 4: you're not going to do the protest on the 11th
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  Speaker 4: of November. I'm a big fan of freedom. I think
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  Speaker 4: people should go out there and do what they want.
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  Speaker 4: But there are some days that are very, very sacred
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  Speaker 4: to our nation. I think the 11th of November, the
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  Speaker 4: 25th of April are two days where you don't do
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  Speaker 4: this kind of stuff. So, look, I take them at
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  Speaker 4: face value. I do think they're probably ignorant rather than
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  Speaker 4: malicious in this. but these protests should not go ahead
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  Speaker 4: on that day. If you want to do this, guys,
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  Speaker 4: pick another day. Don't do it on the 11th of November.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think you're sadly right about the ignorance there. But, Patrick,
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk to you momentarily as well about
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  Speaker 1: something else sacred in the sacred days of Remembrance Day. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it ties into the next story, which is that thousands
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  Speaker 1: of people showed up at a rally here in Sydney
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  Speaker 1: to protest the sale by Richard Marles, the Defence Minister,
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  Speaker 1: and the Albanese Labour government of the historic... and vital
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  Speaker 1: Victoria barracks in Sydney's east. Labour, Liberals, One Nation Greens
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  Speaker 1: and Independents all rallied together. Among the speakers were John
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  Speaker 1: Howard and Tony Abbott. Here's a little bit of what
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  Speaker 1: they had to say.
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  Speaker 3: Selling off Victoria barracks is regress, and we've had too
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  Speaker 3: much regress in our country lately.
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  Speaker 5: I haven't come here to bag the government. I've come
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  Speaker 5: here to represent, I think, the feelings of many Australians.
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  Speaker 5: No points scoring. There won't be any gloating about him
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  Speaker 5: backing down. It will not be a back down. It
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  Speaker 5: will be a victory for common sense.
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  Speaker 1: Patrick, we've been running a big campaign at the Daily
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  Speaker 1: Telegraph about this, and it seems like just about everybody
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  Speaker 1: is against the sale except for the defence minister. Why
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  Speaker 1: are they so bloody minded about this?
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  Speaker 3: Look, it looks like a cash grab to me, James,
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  Speaker 3: to be honest. And you make the point, everyone is
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  Speaker 3: against it. If you can bring Greens and One Nation together,
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  Speaker 3: if you can unite them against something you're going to do,
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  Speaker 3: then perhaps you might want to look at it and
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  Speaker 3: sort of say, hang on, this is wrong.
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  Speaker 2: And I think you used the word before.
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  Speaker 1: James, vital.
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  Speaker 3: These barracks are vital. If there is a security sort
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  Speaker 3: of incident in Sydney, if there's a terrorist attack, These
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  Speaker 3: barracks are the starting point for the response and to
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  Speaker 3: shut them, to sell them off basically for a couple
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  Speaker 3: of billion dollars or whatever it is, it's not a
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  Speaker 3: huge amount of money. It really makes no sense. And
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  Speaker 3: I like what John Howard said there. Just do the
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  Speaker 3: right thing. It doesn't have to be a back down.
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  Speaker 3: Just actually do the right thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think you're absolutely right. They just need
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  Speaker 1: to they need to stop because they say it's not
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  Speaker 1: a huge amount of money. It's, you know, maybe a
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks worth of NDIS fraud. Guys, thank you
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  Speaker 1: so much. We're going to have to leave it there, though.
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  Speaker 1: Speak again real soon. Daniel from the IPA and News
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  Speaker 1: Corp's Patrick Carline. Thank you, gentlemen. Well, another weekend, another
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  Speaker 1: round of violent protests in France and around Europe. Over
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  Speaker 1: 400,000 people gathered around that country, France, with police making
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  Speaker 1: about 1,000 arrests. Mass protesters hurled objects and fireworks at police,
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  Speaker 1: who answered with clouds of tear gas and stun grenades.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me now to discuss this is broadcaster, columnist and
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  Speaker 1: international relations expert, the great Ralph Schulheimer. Ralph, wonderful to
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  Speaker 1: speak with you again. And I wish it was under
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  Speaker 1: happier circumstances, but it does feel like these riots, these demonstrations,
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  Speaker 1: they're not showing any sign of real abatement yet. So
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  Speaker 1: what's the next stage?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I have to admit, for somebody who leans conservative
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  Speaker 2: as I do, this was quite the night. Flavio Bolsonaro
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  Speaker 2: losing the election in Brazil as a great surprise. And
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  Speaker 2: as you correctly mentioned, in Western Europe, the, let's call it,
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  Speaker 2: Islamo-left alliance is still on the march, although even now
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  Speaker 2: I think Macron has realized that more police on the
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  Speaker 2: streets is needed. And it was not as violent as
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  Speaker 2: it has been the nights before. But it remains to
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  Speaker 2: be seen. There was another call for demonstrations for October 31st,
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  Speaker 2: not just in France, by the way, also in Spain,
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  Speaker 2: in Germany and some other places. So we'll see if
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  Speaker 2: this is now fizzling out or if it's actually restarting.
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  Speaker 1: Who is behind this stuff? We've spoken about this before,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm seeing more and more indications that Antifa, which
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  Speaker 1: is very ironically named, given their very sort of fascist
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  Speaker 1: behavior often, is behind a lot of this. And would
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  Speaker 1: that explain why these riots are also spreading to other
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  Speaker 1: European cities outside France's borders?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think we can even dig a little deeper here.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, from the organizations that called for these demonstrations,
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  Speaker 2: the number has now gone up to thereabouts around 290 organizations.
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  Speaker 2: About one third, if we are generous, are genuine student organizations,
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  Speaker 2: but the other two thirds are political in nature. And
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  Speaker 2: we also do know, at least according to the most
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  Speaker 2: recent reporting, that this is not supposed to be conspiratorial.
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  Speaker 2: This is just what the evidence is showing, that some
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  Speaker 2: of these organizations also have received money from NGOs, among
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  Speaker 2: them the George Soros Foundation. I'm just mentioning this because
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  Speaker 2: it dovetails nicely with... with Alex Soros' celebration of the
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  Speaker 2: election victory of Lula in Brazil. Now, why I'm mentioning this?
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  Speaker 2: Because there is, of course, an organized network that supports
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: the global left. One of these things that the right
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: to this very day has not learned. This is something
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: where the political left has an advantage over the political right.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: They think globally, but they act locally.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And, you know, it is fascinating because you mentioned
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Brazil there, these shocking results here, which came after Lula
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: basically begged a court to grant them extra hours of voting.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Tell us a bit more about this, because, you know,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Brazil was going to be the latest in a series
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: of Latin American countries to elect conservative governments. And it
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: feels to me, I have to say, this feels kind
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: of fishy.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Well, it feels odd. And I will say, you know,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: I hold back until there is more evidence. So for now,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: I accept the election results. But again, you see a
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: global trend there, James. Now, you had these elections in
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Hungary in April, right? And the new Hungarian government has,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: to put it mildly, a very authoritarian streak to it.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: But nobody reports about it. Now, as you correctly mentioned,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: you have this election in Brazil. If you extend the
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: opening of the elections, of the voting booth, of the
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: polls for two hours in the middle of an election,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: that is not nothing. And apparently the judge who did
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: it was also once the personal attorney of Lula da Silva. Again,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I'm just repeating what the headlines say. Again, I'm waiting
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: for further evidence. So we don't want to, you know,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: say something that is not true.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Of course not.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: But this is what it currently looks like. Yeah. And yeah,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I completely agree. This is all. But what I find
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: even harder is again the reporting. If Donald Trump would
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: do such a thing, if Viktor Orban has done such
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: a thing, you would have headline after headline after headline, well,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: this was rigged, this was unfair, you cannot do this,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: and so on and so on. But if it's somebody
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: from the left, almost 90%, you and I being the
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: great exception, of the media environment is silent on it
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: because of course, quite silently at the New York Times
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: and other outlets, the Guardian, they're cheering that kind of result.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: So if there was something that seems a little fishy, ah,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: you know, better not talk about it. Why should we
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: rock the boat and let people know?
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I think you're right there. But I mean, I can't believe, Ralph,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: that you're suggesting the New York Times might be biased. But,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: you know, let's go back to France, though, because they
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: are going to have an election in your spring, the
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Northern Hemisphere spring next year. National rally leader Marine Le
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Pen kicked off her campaign off the back of the protests,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: vowing to restore the rule of law if elected. What
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: are the chances she's elected? It looks like she's got
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: a pretty good shot right now. It seems like the
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: protesters are only helping her cause. What would she do,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: do you expect? And could we even see the fall
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: of the Fifth Republic?
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Well, let me put it this way. She's definitely projected
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: to win the first round of presidential elections, but it's
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: very similar in this way to Brazil. So I also
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: thought that Flavia Bolsonaro is going to win. So I'm
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: going to hold back on my final verdict on who's
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: going to win the next presidential elections in France. But
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: at the moment, it does look likely, right? It is
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: within the realm of the very possible that she becomes president.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: But of course, the issue is I have full confidence
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: that she can reestablish law and order on the streets.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: But the problems of France go much deeper, right? The
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: economies are doing well. The government share with 57% of
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: the economy is way too big, right? France basically has
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: refused to conduct any structural reforms in its welfare system.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: And this is also an issue here, right? I'm not
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: saying that the protests are justified. I'm far from it.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: But of course, you can tell this is a society
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: that is anxious because it knows that, I use your
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: phrase a lot here, but this is quite good, because
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: the time of the Fifth Republic is running out. So
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: she has quite the challenge and many of the reforms
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: that she will have to execute will not be popular
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: with the French people. So let's see if she can deliver.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Well, Ralph, this isn't isn't this sort of the problem
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: that we have in all democracies? I know we have
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: the same problem here where people see the economy, you know,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: sputtering out and we have less and less industry and,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: you know, more and more demands on the state. Is
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: there a bigger reckoning coming for all Western democracies and
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: we need to pay close attention to France? And maybe
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: that's the really important story, even more than the story
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: about the protests and the migration and everything else that
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: goes with that.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Well, they're connected, right? Because people in general, and I
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: think that's true for Australians as much as it is
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: for French people, are not opposed to reforms. They just feel,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: as would I, by the way, that the burden of
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: these reforms has to be fairly distributed. And it is
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: very difficult to explain to somebody in France or the
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Netherlands or Denmark or Germany. And we have now the
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: numbers on this. So this is not something I'm making up.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: A lot of money to people that just recently crossed
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: the borders. But now they say, oh, no, we have
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: no money left for, let's say, quote unquote, you know,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: our people or the native French population, so to speak.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: This is the sense that the burden is unequally and
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: unfairly distributed. And this is why there is such resistance
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: to reforms.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Fascinating stuff, Ralph Schulhammer. Always fascinating to chat. I could
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: speak with you all evening, but for now we're going
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: to have to leave it there. Thank you so much, Ralph.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Thank you, James. It was great being on.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Well, still to come, Barack Obama is back campaigning for
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: the Democrats and taking a swipe at President Trump's White
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: House design skills. Josh Hammer has the details next. Well,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: now it's time for Lefties Losing It, and today I
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: have got a full crop of lefties for you from
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: the deranged to the dangerous. Check this out. This is
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: a woman called Melissa Charles. She's an ethnic studies teacher
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: at California State University in a town called Stanislaus, and
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: she's here talking about how she uses her classroom to
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: steer students towards her far left radical worldview. Get a
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: load of this and wonder why your family dinners with
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: the kids or grandkids sometimes feel more like a deprogramming session.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: But like education should be our version of propaganda.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: It should be our version of we know what we're
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: talking about. We know.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: I know how to say it. through the lens of
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: an academic, I know how to say it, through the
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: lens of Assata, page five, paragraph three.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: But like genuinely, so we, I mean, we are at war, right?
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: Like that's, if that's what we understand, I think that's
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: what all leftist spaces to some degree understand that we
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: are in a battle, at least a battle. Maybe not
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: everyone's like we at war, but like we're in some
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: kind of struggle, some battle.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: And It's holistic, right?
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: I know how to.
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: Connect all of these things into a logical, compelling, relevant
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: statement that will bring people to my side of this struggle.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. Young lefties are not born, they're made,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: which may explain people like junior kiddie Senator Charlotte Walker.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Only she hasn't quite gotten the message about the whole
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: class struggle thing. For her, the real problem with class
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: is having to fly economy. On the taxpayer dime, of course.
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: Someone told me you may have even stopped flying business
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: class and you're sort of sitting in cattle class now.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Is that true?
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I fly economy. You know, there's not many planes
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: that go from LA to Canberra. So as in business class,
• 24:38
  Speaker 8: you know, we've got, there's 12 senators, 10 in the
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: lower house, I think. So we're not all going to
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: fit in business. There's only nine business seats anyway. So
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: I'm not the only one that's not in business because
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: we don't all fit anyway. But it's a short flight.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I don't mind. Ah, yes, meanwhile, in the United States,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: former President Barack Obama is out there pleading with everyone
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: to turn down the anger.
• 25:00
  Speaker 9: If we don't rediscover those values, we will continue to
• 25:05
  Speaker 9: fester in anger and division. And I don't know about you,
• 25:10
  Speaker 9: but I am tired of.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Anger and division.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Honestly, does this guy listen to himself?
• 25:18
  Speaker 9: So to all the young people out there, as well
• 25:23
  Speaker 9: as those of you who consider yourselves young at heart.
• 25:28
  Speaker 9: I want you to stay angry. I want you to
• 25:32
  Speaker 9: stay frustrated.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: What an absolute hypocrite. On this topic, he's the United States'
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: answer to Anthony Albanese. Meanwhile, speaking of Barack Hussein Obama,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: here's Michigan Democrat Senate hopeful Abdul El-Sayed talking about how
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Obama did when he was president. And this is El-Sayed
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: back in 2020.
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: We are going to continue to make the same mistakes
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: of the past eight years under Barack Obama.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: We are not better.
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: I'll just say this. We are not as a country
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: better off eight years after Obama was elected in 2008
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: than we were when he was elected. And I say
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: this as somebody who loves him deeply.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I disagree.
• 26:09
  Speaker 10: I just don't believe, look at where we are right now.
• 26:11
  Speaker 10: Look at the great things that Obama did. The Affordable
• 26:14
  Speaker 10: Care Act.
• 26:15
  Speaker 11: Look at what he did with climate and the Paris
• 26:17
  Speaker 11: bringing people together.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Look at the Iranian deal.
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: The structure of the economy did not change under Barack Obama.
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: The solutions to actually thinking about making sure that our
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: healthcare system was equitable and sustainable, that did not change
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: under Barack Obama.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Hawkies, but I guess it's bygones time because Obama is
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: out there campaigning for the man now. Politics, strange bedfellows,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: you know the story. Finally, here's a rapper called Cello Hop.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I know, right? Doing her thing with the Israeli flag.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: MUSIC You know, they never try these sorts of stunts
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: with the flags of Muslim countries where they actually do
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: practice everything they accuse Israel of, right? I wonder why
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: that is. Well, moving over to the United States now,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: former President Barack Obama has inserted himself into the Democrat
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: midterm campaign once again. The former U.S. president campaigned in
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Michigan alongside Democrat candidate for Senate, Abdul El-Sayed, and in
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Ohio alongside gubernatorial candidate Amy Acton. Obama used his speech
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: to blame Donald Trump, who else, for the war in Iran.
• 27:46
  Speaker 9: This administration's actions are directly responsible for rising costs. The
• 27:55
  Speaker 9: current president chose to make a series of bad decisions.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Most importantly, he.
• 28:06
  Speaker 9: Decided to start an unnecessary war that nobody asked for
• 28:10
  Speaker 9: and nobody voted for.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Well, joining me now to discuss this and more is
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Article 3 Project Senior Counsel and Shulman Fellow at the
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: David Horowitz Freedom Center, Josh Hammer. Josh, welcome back to
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: the program. Great to see you here. I don't know.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I kind of feel like when it comes to presidents
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: and former presidents, Barack Obama is not exactly on the
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: strongest ground when it comes to talking about Iran. I mean,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: have we just forgotten the Iran deal all of a sudden?
• 28:40
  Speaker 10: Well, some of us have not forgotten. I think probably
• 28:43
  Speaker 10: most of us have not forgotten. You know, let's not forget,
• 28:45
  Speaker 10: by the way, James, as well, that Barack Obama, in
• 28:48
  Speaker 10: the final month or so of the 2024 presidential campaign,
• 28:53
  Speaker 10: when the Harris-Walls ticket was struggling, everyone knew it was
• 28:55
  Speaker 10: going to be a close election, they sent out Barack
• 28:57
  Speaker 10: Obama as the number one campaign surrogate. In fact, I
• 29:00
  Speaker 10: think between the DNC and Obama's adopted hometown, Chicago, between
• 29:05
  Speaker 10: the DNC that summer and Election Day that November, I
• 29:08
  Speaker 10: think Obama hit a campaign trail most often. And what
• 29:11
  Speaker 10: did that do for the Harris-Walls ticket? Well, not a
• 29:14
  Speaker 10: whole lot. In fact, they lost every single swing state.
• 29:17
  Speaker 10: to Donald Trump and J.D.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Vance.
• 29:19
  Speaker 10: So I'm not entirely convinced that Barack Obama is going
• 29:22
  Speaker 10: to have any different effect this time around. So let
• 29:24
  Speaker 10: me first say that. But on the actual substance here,
• 29:27
  Speaker 10: on the merits, which you correctly point out, yeah, Barack
• 29:29
  Speaker 10: Obama capitulated. He capitulated. He fell. He bent over backwards
• 29:34
  Speaker 10: to the world's number one state sponsor of terrorism because
• 29:36
  Speaker 10: Barack Obama in his dystopian geopolitical worldview views the moles
• 29:41
  Speaker 10: of Iran as America's most natural allies. He was really
• 29:45
  Speaker 10: the he was the progenitor to this modern red green
• 29:49
  Speaker 10: alliance garbage. He was the academic forecaster. faux intellectual progenitor
• 29:53
  Speaker 10: trying to project that America is a colonial oppressive bastion
• 29:57
  Speaker 10: and we're better off ditching our traditional allies, trying to
• 29:59
  Speaker 10: realign with Iran and all the world's worst actors. He
• 30:02
  Speaker 10: has no ground to stand on. He really should shut
• 30:04
  Speaker 10: up and get off the campaign trail like most presidents
• 30:07
  Speaker 10: in the past have done.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Well, and, you know, it's interesting to me here because
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I'm told that they brought
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Barack Obama out is because, you know, they're having trouble
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: getting blacks and black male voters, African-Americans, to come out
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: and vote for Abdul El-Sayed, the Democrat. But I remember
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: in that campaign for Kamala Harris, when Obama did these
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: hectoring speeches aimed at young African-Americans, did I think an
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: ad as well, and it just didn't go over well
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: at all. And his whole crowd there, his whole audience there,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: they look like white Michiganers. So I don't think the
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: strategy is going to work.
• 30:42
  Speaker 10: No, I don't think it's going to work either. And
• 30:45
  Speaker 10: they tried this. It wasn't just Barack Obama. Kamala Harris
• 30:47
  Speaker 10: herself tried this in 2024. She did this one rally
• 30:51
  Speaker 10: in Georgia. and she put on this ridiculous fake Southern accent. Hey, y'all,
• 30:55
  Speaker 10: it's great to be here in Georgia. And it's like, lady,
• 30:58
  Speaker 10: you're from California and you're at best half black. I mean,
• 31:03
  Speaker 10: she's a mixed background. I mean, the whole thing was ridiculous,
• 31:06
  Speaker 10: but this is who the Democrats are. The Democrats, all
• 31:08
  Speaker 10: they care about is identity politics. That is literally the
• 31:12
  Speaker 10: end all be all of what it means to be
• 31:14
  Speaker 10: on the left as an ideological matter these days in America,
• 31:16
  Speaker 10: what it means to be a member of the Democratic Party.
• 31:18
  Speaker 10: Their entire worldview, their entire politics is predicated upon this
• 31:23
  Speaker 10: oppressed oppressor, DEI, neo-Marxist dynamic, and they're leaning into it
• 31:29
  Speaker 10: with all they've got. There is some data, there is
• 31:33
  Speaker 10: some data showing that some of the gains the Republicans
• 31:36
  Speaker 10: made in 2024 with Latino and young male voters are
• 31:40
  Speaker 10: potentially at risk of slipping away at least a little bit.
• 31:42
  Speaker 10: But when it comes to black voters in particular, I
• 31:45
  Speaker 10: have not seen a whole lot of data indicating that
• 31:47
  Speaker 10: they're going to run back to the Democrats out of
• 31:50
  Speaker 10: the aisle, and I don't think Barack Obama will change
• 31:51
  Speaker 10: that equation.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think the Democrats... For all of their
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: obsession with identity have missed some of the key dynamics
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: between different groups in the United States. But Obama in
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: this speech here, well, he also took this weird swipe
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: at President Trump's White House. Have a listen to this.
• 32:10
  Speaker 9: I don't know if you've noticed, but he seems very
• 32:14
  Speaker 9: focused on home renovations.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: What's up with the gold? Everything, more gold.
• 32:22
  Speaker 9: He's got the white ass looking like Saddam Hussein opened
• 32:25
  Speaker 9: a cheesecake factory.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Well, this is the same guy whose presidential library, we'll
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: show it to you on the screen here, looks like
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: some sort of, you know, Death Star or secret police
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: headquarters from behind the Iron Curtain. Who is this guy
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: to talk about design or to attack the Cheesecake Factory,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: which is a chain restaurant that, of course, he would
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: never deign to go into because he's too fancy, but
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: that ordinary Americans love?
• 32:54
  Speaker 10: You know, James, it's funny you bring this up. I
• 32:55
  Speaker 10: actually was a law student at the University of Chicago
• 32:57
  Speaker 10: where Barack Obama taught constitutional law for 10 years. And
• 33:00
  Speaker 10: I actually lived about a stone's throw for a year
• 33:02
  Speaker 10: from where this library is going up. And I can
• 33:06
  Speaker 10: tell you that what was there prior to this monstrosity
• 33:08
  Speaker 10: going up was a heck of a lot better than
• 33:10
  Speaker 10: what it will look like after this. It is an
• 33:12
  Speaker 10: utter eyesore to the entire Hyde Park, Chicago area. By
• 33:15
  Speaker 10: the way, it was dramatically over budget, took way longer time.
• 33:19
  Speaker 10: It was way more expensive. It was one of the
• 33:21
  Speaker 10: worst projects in modern Chicago history, which frankly is saying
• 33:24
  Speaker 10: a whole lot.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: But, you know, I want to.
• 33:26
  Speaker 10: Also zoom out a little bit here because Barack Obama's, man,
• 33:28
  Speaker 10: I talk about a lot for many reasons. I want
• 33:31
  Speaker 10: to underscore an important point. It is incredibly, incredibly rare that,
• 33:36
  Speaker 10: to see someone like this, 10 years removed from the
• 33:39
  Speaker 10: White House, out on the campaign trail, just trying to
• 33:42
  Speaker 10: rile up the crowd in the most partisan, demagogic fashion imaginable.
• 33:46
  Speaker 10: There's a long history and tradition in American politics of
• 33:49
  Speaker 10: presidents generally trying to appeal to the better of our angels,
• 33:54
  Speaker 10: and therefore not politicking in this sort of crass fashion.
• 33:57
  Speaker 10: That's why Barack Obama became the first U.S. president in
• 34:00
  Speaker 10: 100 years, literally, since Woodrow Wilson, to not physically leave Washington, D.C.
• 34:06
  Speaker 10: He stayed in Calorama, a very upscale neighborhood in D.C.,
• 34:09
  Speaker 10: where he was about a mile and a half, two
• 34:10
  Speaker 10: miles from the Joe Biden White House, Go figure. I mean,
• 34:14
  Speaker 10: I think that that was more than just symbolic proximity.
• 34:17
  Speaker 10: And this is a man who just fundamentally cannot give
• 34:20
  Speaker 10: up his zeal, his thirst for power. But, you know,
• 34:23
  Speaker 10: at the risk of punching slightly below the belt chains,
• 34:26
  Speaker 10: but I will say it anyway, you know, His wife, Michelle,
• 34:29
  Speaker 10: has openly complained about their marriage not being in the
• 34:32
  Speaker 10: best of places. Shouldn't he focus a little bit more
• 34:36
  Speaker 10: on the home front and things like that, and not
• 34:38
  Speaker 10: just trying to belittle and sully the legacy of a
• 34:40
  Speaker 10: man who should, again, be appealing to her better angels,
• 34:42
  Speaker 10: as most ex-presidents have done? I think that would be
• 34:44
  Speaker 10: a good idea, frankly.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean, look, I played a little while
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: ago in the program, grabs of Obama saying we should
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: all put away the anger and then telling people to
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: stay angry. So the man is a hypocrite, and I'm
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: glad you mentioned him in the same breath as Woodrow Wilson.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: because people who watch me know precisely what I think
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: of that guy. But, hey, let's talk about another race here,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: or another political controversy as well, the Ilhan Omar issue.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: President Trump has demanded that Ilhan Omar immediately resign for Congress,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: and he's weighed into allegations that her husband at one
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: point was her brusband. Have a look. And when asked
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: whether or not she married her brother, she said, not
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: to my knowledge.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: That's not a good answer. You know what that is?
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: That's a legal answer.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: It's not a good answer. And, you know, I had
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: somebody come up to me over the weekend and they said,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: you know, if Ilhan Omar is accused of all of
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: these things with their finances and the fraud and everything
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: like that, how is it that she is still seated
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: in Congress? I mean, in Australia, an MP, a member
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: of parliament, would be forced out on rail.
• 35:52
  Speaker 10: Well, it's a good question. And, you know, ultimately, in
• 35:54
  Speaker 10: American politics, the easiest remedy for this is the ballot box.
• 35:59
  Speaker 10: There are other remedies, potentially. You can kick out a
• 36:02
  Speaker 10: city member of Congress. It is a rarely invoked tool.
• 36:05
  Speaker 10: And unfortunately, given how utterly partisan our politics are these days,
• 36:09
  Speaker 10: this is the kind of thing that likely would trigger
• 36:10
  Speaker 10: a party line vote, whereas you need a supermajority to
• 36:13
  Speaker 10: do this. So it's likely to fail simply on parsing
• 36:15
  Speaker 10: grounds alone. You know, Ilhan Omar has had some close
• 36:18
  Speaker 10: congressional primaries. I think it was in 2022, so two
• 36:22
  Speaker 10: cycles ago, if I'm not mistaken. She very, very narrowly won.
• 36:25
  Speaker 10: It was like a point or two in her Democrat primary.
• 36:27
  Speaker 10: So she's had some close calls. This is a woman, James,
• 36:32
  Speaker 10: who represents the absolute, absolute worst of American politics. A
• 36:36
  Speaker 10: woman who defrauded us to get here in the first place.
• 36:40
  Speaker 10: A woman who was brought here due to the generosity
• 36:42
  Speaker 10: and beneficence of the American people from her war-torn home
• 36:46
  Speaker 10: of Mogadishu, Somalia, and comes here and then just trashes
• 36:49
  Speaker 10: this country over and over again. who was actually caught
• 36:51
  Speaker 10: on a not-so-secret video a couple years ago saying in
• 36:55
  Speaker 10: the Somali language to a community of Somalis that she
• 36:57
  Speaker 10: is a Somali first and a Muslim second and is
• 37:00
  Speaker 10: killing the United States who tried to kick money back
• 37:02
  Speaker 10: to Somalia and Somalis, which, by the way, she's doing
• 37:05
  Speaker 10: a pretty bang-up job of, given the whole fraud scandal
• 37:08
  Speaker 10: in Minnesota and the fact that there have been legitimate
• 37:11
  Speaker 10: allegations of funneling money back to al-Shabaab, a former al-Qaeda
• 37:16
  Speaker 10: offshoot operating in Somalia. So, you know, this is a
• 37:19
  Speaker 10: woman who... Frankly, not enough bad things can happen to
• 37:22
  Speaker 10: her when it comes to her defrauding other people. I
• 37:25
  Speaker 10: have said for a long time I want this woman
• 37:27
  Speaker 10: to be denaturalized and deported, may it come ASAP.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, look, I think you're right. The whole family,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: there's questions about it. I mean, didn't I read that
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: her father was apparently some sort of warlord in Somalia?
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: So I just don't know what's going on there. Hey,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: let's talk about Hillary Clinton. Let's talk about this. She's
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: now talking about pushing for the expansion of the Supreme
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Court from nine justices to 13. Now, this is, I think,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: them saying the quiet part out loud. And I reckon
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: that if they win the White House in 2028 and
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: if they've got the control of Congress as well, they're
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: going to try and push this through and essentially make
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: the Supreme Court just a rubber stamp for every ridiculous
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: lefty idea you can imagine. Am I wrong?
• 38:13
  Speaker 10: No, you're not wrong at all. So there's a few
• 38:14
  Speaker 10: things going on here. First of all, just to state
• 38:17
  Speaker 10: the obvious, America has had a fixed number of justices
• 38:20
  Speaker 10: in the Supreme Court and nine since shortly after the
• 38:22
  Speaker 10: Civil War. I think it was 1869 is when they've
• 38:25
  Speaker 10: changed it most recently. So it's been almost 100 and
• 38:28
  Speaker 10: 60 years, shortly after the assassination of Abraham Lincoln. It
• 38:31
  Speaker 10: has not changed in a very long time and for
• 38:33
  Speaker 10: very good measure. By the way, Democrats have flirted with
• 38:36
  Speaker 10: this idea in the past. We were just talking about
• 38:37
  Speaker 10: Woodrow Wilson. Well, who was Woodrow Wilson's, his protege? Well,
• 38:41
  Speaker 10: it was FDR, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who infamously tried to
• 38:44
  Speaker 10: pass the Supreme Court to pass all the various extremisms
• 38:48
  Speaker 10: of his New Deal agenda in the 1930s. He was
• 38:52
  Speaker 10: trying to add between four and ideally six full justices.
• 38:56
  Speaker 10: And at the time, Congress was dominated, dominated by Democrats.
• 38:59
  Speaker 10: And the Senate Judiciary Committee, which was the relevant committee
• 39:02
  Speaker 10: in Congress tasked with overseeing this, was absolutely dominated by Democrats.
• 39:06
  Speaker 10: And they wrote James in 1937 an incredible letter back
• 39:10
  Speaker 10: to that iconic Democrat in the White House FDR saying,
• 39:13
  Speaker 10: We will never let the Supreme Court become just a
• 39:16
  Speaker 10: simple tool for executive tyranny. We will stand today and
• 39:21
  Speaker 10: forever for an independent court, a court that will not
• 39:24
  Speaker 10: be bound. They don't make Democrats, frankly, in some ways
• 39:27
  Speaker 10: like they used to. But the other thing happening here
• 39:29
  Speaker 10: is the Clinton once upon a time, were the avant-garde
• 39:33
  Speaker 10: of what it meant to be a blue-dog centrist Democrat.
• 39:36
  Speaker 10: Bill Clinton's presidency, in many ways, was actually not just
• 39:39
  Speaker 10: more moderate, I would actually say it was probably more
• 39:42
  Speaker 10: conservative in many, if not most, key ways than even
• 39:44
  Speaker 10: the George W. Bush presidency. I mean, whether it was safe, legal,
• 39:47
  Speaker 10: and rare in abortion, signing a law against same-sex marriage,
• 39:50
  Speaker 10: welfare reform, immigration reform, death penalty, capital gains tax cut,
• 39:54
  Speaker 10: Bill Clinton had a pretty moderate record. So the fact
• 39:57
  Speaker 10: that Bill and Hillary, all these decades later, one, are
• 40:01
  Speaker 10: still desperately trying to stay relevant, much like Barack Obama himself,
• 40:04
  Speaker 10: but now they're also trying to appeal to the far left,
• 40:06
  Speaker 10: It just shows you where the center of gravity of
• 40:08
  Speaker 10: that party has gone. There are so many data points,
• 40:10
  Speaker 10: and the Clinton, I think, are a very good data point.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: I think that's a great point. Yeah, there's no centrist
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Democrats anymore. I'm afraid those guys are all gone. I
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: guess you have to look to Fetterman or somebody like that,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: and he's probably going to become a Republican. But, Josh Hammer,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: we're going to have to leave it there for now.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: We will chat again soon. Really appreciate your time.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Still to come, Prince William leaves Robert Irwin blushing after
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: a joke referencing his... Python. Kinsey Schofield will have all
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: the details after the break. Welcome back to the program.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: James Morrow here filling in for Rita. Great to have
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: your company this evening. And it seems that Prince William
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: and Robert Irwin have made a little appearance together on
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: The Graham Norton Show. The Prince of Wales, though, left
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: the Aussie blushing after he made this particular reference. Have
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: a listen.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: This is Robert with some snakes. CHEERING I'm still thinking
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: about your Python.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: CHEERING Joining me now to discuss this and a whole
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: lot more from the world of entertainment is the host
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: of the Kinsey Schofield Unfiltered podcast, none other than Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: great to chat with you here. This was a bit
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: cheeky from Prince William. Am I being a little bit
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: fuddy-duddy if I say maybe these sorts of double entendres
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: aren't exactly what you need from, you know, the next...
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: The next king?
• 41:51
  Speaker 11: You know, I actually did get a kick out of
• 41:53
  Speaker 11: it because it reminded me of Princess Diana. And if
• 41:58
  Speaker 11: you study Diana, as I do, there are like a
• 42:02
  Speaker 11: series of silly and cheeky and naughty characters you know,
• 42:06
  Speaker 11: greeting cards, she would send people and, you know, like
• 42:09
  Speaker 11: little off the cuff jokes she would make. So in
• 42:12
  Speaker 11: my world, I love it because it reminds me of,
• 42:15
  Speaker 11: it's like he has the best of his mother, the
• 42:17
  Speaker 11: best of his father. He's usually so polished and diplomatic. It's,
• 42:22
  Speaker 11: it's nice to see him breaking the rules every once
• 42:24
  Speaker 11: in a while.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, look, maybe I am just being a
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: stick in the mud, a bit of a showing my
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: age here. But, I mean, there is sort of a
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: broader sort of media management strategy because this is a
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: big difference for Prince William. Do you think he should
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: be doing more of these sorts of appearances because it's
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: a bit different from, you know, his father and grandmother
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: who preferred to stay quiet about these sorts of things generally?
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: But I guess with the royals having sort of ongoing
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: image problems, maybe this isn't such a bad strategy.
• 42:53
  Speaker 11: William understands that the monarchy has to evolve to survive.
• 42:57
  Speaker 11: Queen Elizabeth maintained a sense of mystery. But Prince William is,
• 43:01
  Speaker 11: you know, preparing to be king in an age when
• 43:03
  Speaker 11: people expect a little more personality. And he's got a
• 43:06
  Speaker 11: natural charm that makes these appearances work. He's not compromising
• 43:10
  Speaker 11: the dignity of the crown by having a laugh. He's
• 43:13
  Speaker 11: reminding people that royals are humans. But I do think
• 43:16
  Speaker 11: he's being very careful. You know, he doesn't just show
• 43:19
  Speaker 11: up to the opening of a Walmart like, you know,
• 43:21
  Speaker 11: the other the other pair.
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 43:24
  Speaker 11: His meeting or his interview with Eugene Levy, this interview
• 43:28
  Speaker 11: right here. I think that they are much more selective
• 43:31
  Speaker 11: when it comes to who he engages with. And I
• 43:34
  Speaker 11: think that that's why it works.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I think you're right. I think that's smart.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: You can't just, as you say, just go to the
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: opening of a Walmart like certain other companies. current or
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: ex-royals we might be talking about. Hey, I want to
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: talk about Sylvester Stallone. And this is a fascinating story
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: to me. He's defended hiring his daughter, Scarlett, bringing her
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: on to appear in his hit show, Tulsa King. He
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: was accused of nepotism, but said, and I love this,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: he said, of course it's nepotism, you idiot. Kinsey, he
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: also said that you're not a good parent if you
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: haven't performed a little bit of nepotism. You know, I
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: actually tend to agree, but am I, you know, defending
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: the cause of the Nipo baby here?
• 44:16
  Speaker 11: I was, I was watching a Tony Curtis movie the
• 44:18
  Speaker 11: other day and I started Googling him and I'm like,
• 44:20
  Speaker 11: Jamie Lee Curtis, that's her dad. I mean, I guess
• 44:23
  Speaker 11: I feel like we're having an Epo baby, you know, moment,
• 44:27
  Speaker 11: but the reality is, aren't they all, aren't they all
• 44:29
  Speaker 11: related to somebody over here? I mean, at least he's
• 44:33
  Speaker 11: admitting it. Hollywood is practically a family business at this point.
• 44:36
  Speaker 11: If Sylvester Stallone can help his daughter get her foot
• 44:39
  Speaker 11: in the door, of course he's going to do it.
• 44:41
  Speaker 11: But there's a difference between opening a door for your
• 44:44
  Speaker 11: child and expecting the audience to pretend, you know, you're
• 44:47
  Speaker 11: looking at the next Meryl Streep. Ultimately, Scarlett has to
• 44:50
  Speaker 11: prove she deserves to stay in the room, keep getting
• 44:53
  Speaker 11: the jobs. So dad might help open the door, but
• 44:57
  Speaker 11: she's got to keep it open. She's got to kick
• 44:59
  Speaker 11: the door down and prove that she belongs there.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, that's interesting because she has to go
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: down the same road, I guess, Jamie Lee Curtis did.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: And she's a brilliant actress. And she wouldn't have had
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: the career she had if she wasn't talented, but is
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: the reason why we've been having this kind of big
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: moment against, you know, they call them Nipah babies and
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: all of that. Is this indicative of a broader sort
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: of societal feeling that everything is kind of fixed against people?
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: And so maybe, you know, this, this moment against nepotism
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: is about, uh, you know, a broader discontent.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:32
  Speaker 11: I think that that's a really interesting observation. Maybe it's
• 45:36
  Speaker 11: almost even a victimhood mentality. Like why should I try harder?
• 45:40
  Speaker 11: you know, this other guy is going to get the
• 45:43
  Speaker 11: gig because he knows somebody or, you know, it's just
• 45:45
  Speaker 11: my luck I didn't get it. Maybe that is something
• 45:48
  Speaker 11: that we should be more cautious of.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: That's interesting, isn't it? Anyway, hey, let's talk about Nicki
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Minaj here. She's received some, we'll call them informal nominations
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: to be the next White House press secretary. She recently
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: appeared alongside Donald Trump at a rally. Tell us about
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: this here.
• 46:09
  Speaker 11: Well, they're saying that Nicki Minaj deserves to be the
• 46:12
  Speaker 11: next White House press secretary. As you said, it's an
• 46:15
  Speaker 11: unofficial endorsement. I don't know how I feel about Nicki
• 46:22
  Speaker 11: Minaj representing the United States of America on such a
• 46:26
  Speaker 11: global scale. Hopefully it is just a silly joke, but
• 46:29
  Speaker 11: she is Team Trump all the way, and there's no
• 46:33
  Speaker 11: mistaking that.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, there was more than just the idea
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: of the— the press secretary gig, because before Trump brought
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj on stage, he complimented her anatomy. Have a
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: listen to this.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: By the way, I looked at one hell of a
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: beautiful ass before, Nicki Minaj.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: That's hard to miss. Kinsey, this came just after a
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: week ago when the president applauded John Husted's butt. It
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: seems to me the president has sort of an interest
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: in this part of the anatomy at the moment.
• 47:14
  Speaker 11: Look, I think this is the endorsement J.D. Vance really wants.
• 47:19
  Speaker 11: Somebody needs to remind the president. That he's running the
• 47:23
  Speaker 11: White House, not judging a beauty patent. At this rate,
• 47:26
  Speaker 11: nobody's going to want to turn their back on the president.
• 47:29
  Speaker 11: I mean, I suppose we should celebrate equal opportunity. He's
• 47:33
  Speaker 11: complimenting men and women. That's bipartisan appreciation of the backside.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Look, that is so wonderfully diplomatically put. And I suspect
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: that if J.D. Vance is watching this evening, he's probably
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: going to make a point and say, Usha, don't let
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: me miss leg day again because, you know, we got
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: to tone that up here. But comedian Bill Maher finally
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: hit back at those who've been taking issue with his
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: second dinner staying on politics here with President Donald Trump
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: at the White House last week. Have a listen to this. Yeah,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: I did it.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Again, b * * * * s.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 48:09
  Speaker 9: I'm the bad guy because I go and say face-to-face
• 48:12
  Speaker 9: to the man the things you write in articles that
• 48:14
  Speaker 9: he'll never read, but okay.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: F * * * you. I like these dinners.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Kinsey, I say good on him. Whatever you think about Trump,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: don't we have a big problem here where people don't
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: dialogue and engage with the other side?
• 48:27
  Speaker 11: 100%, but just days after defending his second White House
• 48:33
  Speaker 11: dinner with the president, Trump unleashed a 1300 word attack
• 48:36
  Speaker 11: on Truth Social, calling Maher a loser and accusing him
• 48:40
  Speaker 11: of lying about their meeting. So I hope Bill enjoyed
• 48:43
  Speaker 11: his last supper. But to your point, no, I totally
• 48:46
  Speaker 11: respect Bill Maher for refusing to change his politics just
• 48:49
  Speaker 11: because the president invited him over for dinner. Clearly, Trump
• 48:53
  Speaker 11: expected a five-star review. But Bill went back to doing
• 48:57
  Speaker 11: his job, criticizing politicians, and Trump took it personally. I
• 49:01
  Speaker 11: think the president might have lost his favorite dinner date.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: You know what? I think that's exactly right. I think
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: we just need more of this, though, and I think
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump, being the kind of guy who likes to
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: mix it up, would probably much appreciate somebody like Bill Maher.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: But anyway, thank you so much for your time, as always,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Kinsey Schofield. So much fun to chat, and we'll chat
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: again real soon. Now, that's it from me this evening.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: It's been a lot of fun. Stick around, because up
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: next is Late Edition.