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Ghislaine Maxwell And The Deposition That Led To Her Downfall (Part 3) (5/14/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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  In this episode, we're going to pick back up with
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  the Glenn Maxwell deposition where we left off. McCauley, Miss Maxwell,
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  when did you first meet redacted? Mister Pagliuca object to
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  the form and the foundation? Maxwell, I have no idea
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  when I met her, McCauley, do you know how old
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  she was when you met her? Maxwell? Is it possible
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  she was thirteen years old when you first met her,
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  Mister Pagliuca object to the form and the foundation? Maxwell
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  answers redacted. Redacted may have been in the house when
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  Jeffrey was in the house. I have no idea how
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  old she was, McCauley. I understand redacted. I'm asking if
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  redacted was thirteen years old when you first met her. Maxwell,
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  I have no idea, McCauley. Was she under eighteen when
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  you first met her? Maxwell? I have no idea how
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  old she was when I first met her. McCauley. Did
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  she look like a child when you first met her? Maxwell?
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  I don't remember what she looked like at the time
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  she was in the house. McCauley, how many years have
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  you known her? Maxwell? I can only recall the last
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  time I saw her. McCauley. When was the first time
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  that you met her? Maxwell? Again, I just told you,
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  I don't recall the first time that I met her. McCauley.
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  Did redacted travel with you on Jeffrey Epstein's planes? Maxwell,
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  I wouldn't remember if redacted was on the plane or not. McCauley,
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  did you ever have sex with redacted? Glenn Maxwell? No, McCauley.
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  Did you ever observe Jeffrey having sex with redacted? Maxwell? No, McCauley,
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  were you aware that Jeffrey was having sexual contact with
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  redacted when she was thirteen years old? Mister Pagliuca objects
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  to the form and the Foundation. Maxwell, I would be
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  very shocked and surprised if that were true. McCauley, were
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  you in the house when redacted was in the house
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  in a private area with Jeffrey Epstein? Pag Leuka objects
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  to the form and the Foundation. Maxwell. Can you repeat
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  the question, McCauley, were you ever in the Palm Beach
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  house when Jeffrey Epstein was in the house with redacted?
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  Mister Pagliuca object to the form and the Foundation, Glenn Maxwell,
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  I've already testified that I have met her, and that
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  she was there redacted. I don't understand what question you're asking, McCauley.
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  So you have never seen redacted and redacted mister Pagliuca
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  object to the form and the foundation. McCauley, is that
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  your testimony? Maxwell? I already said, I don't recall all
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  the times I've seen her, and I have no memory
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  of that. McCauley. Have you ever seen redacted in the
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  house with Jeffrey Epstein redacted? Mister Pagliuca object to the
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  form and the foundation? Maxwell, I just told you I
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  don't recall seeing redacted. McCauley. Were you ever involved in
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  an orgy with redacted? Maxwell? No, absolutely not. McCauley, can
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  you tell me do you know any individual by the
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  name of redacted? Maxwell? I do, McCauley, how did you
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  meet redacted Maxwell? At some point? She was a friend
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  of Jeffrey's and I recall meeting her at some point. McCauley,
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  did you hire her? Maxwell? First of all, I don't
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  hire girls like that, So let's be clear. I already
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  testified to that, and I have no idea what you
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  are referring to, McCauley when you say girls like that.
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  What do you mean, Maxwell, I hire people who are
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  professional at the house. You were asking if I hired
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  somebody to do what. I don't know what you were
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  talking about. I hired people to work in the homes. McCauley.
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  What was Nadia Marsonkova doing, Mister Pagliyuka object to the
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  form and the foundation. Maxwell, I have no idea what
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  Nadia Marsonkova was doing. I didn't hire her, and I
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  don't know what you're referring to. McCauley. Did you meet
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  Nadia marsen Kova Maxwell, I testified that I did. McCauley.
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  Did she work for Jeffrey Epstein? Glenn Maxwell, I have
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  no idea what she did. McCauley. Have you flown on
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  a plane with Nadia Marsenkova? Maxwell, I don't recollect. I
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  don't know if I did. McCauley. How many times have
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  you flown on Jeffrey Epstein's planes? Maxwell? Too many times?
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  McCauley more than three hundred. Maxwell, I really couldn't tell
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  you how many. McCauley more than four hundred. Maxwell again,
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  I said, I cannot tell you how many a lot. McCauley,
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  how many times with redacted and redacted? Maxwell I already testified,
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  I have no idea. McCauley how well was redacted when
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  she first became involved with Jeffrey Maxwell? I have no idea. McCauley.
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  Was she fourteen? Mister Pagliuca objects to the form and
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  the Foundation, Maxwell, I have no idea. McCauley, did she
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  look like a child the first time you met her?
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  Pag Leuk objects to the form and the Foundation asked
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  An answered, McCauley, did she look like a child the
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  first time you met redacted? Glenn Maxwell? I don't know
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  what you mean if she looked like a child. McCauley.
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  Did she look like she was under the age of eighteen? Maxwell? No, McCauley,
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  did she look like she was under the age of sixteen? Maxwell?
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  I just testified. First of all, I couldn't tell you
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  how old she was. She didn't look like a child.
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  Leave it at that, McCauley, did you know that she
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  was a child? Pag Leuka object to the form and
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  the Foundation. Maxwell I just answered, I did not know
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  how old she was, and she looked like an adult.
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  McCauley in the time that you traveled with her on
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  Jeffrey Epstein's planes. Did you ever ask her how old
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  she was? Pag Leuka objects to the form, and the
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  Foundation assumes facts not in evidence. The witness already testified
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  she doesn't remember. McCauley, you can answer that question. Did
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  you ever ask her on the many flights you were
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  with her on or the many times you were with
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  her at the house? Maxwell? First of all, I don't
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  know I was on many flights with her. You were
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  making stories up again as usual. And secondly, if I
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  was on a flight with her, there would not be
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  any reason why I would ask her how old she was. McCauley,
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  you don't recollect having any conversation with her about her age. Maxwell,
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  I already testified to that. McCauley, do you know what
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  redacted was hired to do for Jeffrey Maxwell? I already
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  testified I didn't know she was hired, and I don't
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  know what she did anything. I don't know how to
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  answer that question. McCauley was redacted at the house, the
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  Palm Beach House when you were present at the house.
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  Pagliuca objects to the Foundation, Maxwell, I have no recollection
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  of her being at the house at the same time
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  as me. McCauley, when did you first meet redacted? Maxwell?
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  I already told you. McCauley, do you recall anything about redacted?
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  Maxwell that she was tall and blonde. McCauley, do you
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  recall redacted interacting with other females at the house? Maxwell? No,
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  I do not. McCauley, did you arrange to get a
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  visa for redacted to come to this country? Packluka objects
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  to the form and the foundation. Maxwell answers, absolutely not. McCauley.
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  Did Jeffrey arrange for a visa for redacted? Mister Pagliuca,
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  you need to give me a break so I can
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  interpose an objection. Object to the form and the foundation. McCauley,
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  you can answer Maxwell, what was the question? McCauley. Did
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  Jeffrey arrange for a visa for redacted? Maxwell? I don't
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  know what Jeffrey did. I cannot testify to what Jeffrey did. McCauley.
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  Was redacted involved in sex with Jeffrey and other girls?
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  Pagliuca object to the form and the foundation? Girls under
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  the age of eighteen. Pagliuca, same objection, Maxwell, I have
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  no idea McCauley was redacted involved with sex with Jeffrey
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  and girls over the age of eighteen, Mister Pagliuca, same objection, Maxwell,
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  I have no idea. McCauley, did redacted or recruit other
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  girls to have sex with Jeffrey? Pacliuka object to the
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  Form and the Foundation? Maxwell, I have no idea, McCauley.
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  Do you still talk to you redacted? Maxwell No, McCauley, redacted, Maxwell,
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  I have no idea redacted redacted? Redacted? Maxwell, I have
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  no idea. McCauley. Are you a pilot? Maxwell? I am, McCauley.
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  Have you flown with redacted? Maxwell? I have McCauley. Have
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  you flown with redacted? Maxwell? What do you mean by flowing? McCauley,
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  have you been on a plane with her? Maxwell I
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  already testified. I don't recall having around a plan with me. McCauley.
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  Do you know redacted Glenn Maxwell? I do. McCauley. When
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  did you first meet her? Maxwell, I don't recall the
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  exact dates. McCauley. Did you meet her with the purpose
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  of hiring her to work for Jeffrey Epstein or having
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  Jeffrey hirer Pagluka objects to the Form and the Foundation.
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  Maxwell no, McCauley, what was her relationship with Jeffrey Pagluka
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  object to the form and the Foundation? Maxwell, I don't
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  know exactly the nature of a relationship, but she worked
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  for him, McCauley, what did she do pack Leuka object
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  to the form and the foundation? Maxwell? At the time
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  when she was with him, I believe she traveled with
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  him and helped him with his travel arrangements. McCauley. Did
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  she bring girls to the house to give massages to
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  Jeffrey pack Leuka object to the form and the Foundation? Maxwell?
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  I don't know what Blank did, McCauley, So you never
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  observe redacted bringing girls to the home to give massages
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  to Jeffrey pack Leuka object to the form and the foundation. Maxwell,
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  I don't understand the question. What did you mean bring McCauley,
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  did you ever observe Redacted inviting bringing walking anyone into
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  the home to give a massage to mister Epstein pag
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  Leuka object to the form and the Foundation? Maxwell, I
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  don't recollect anything like that. McCauley. Are you aware that
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  redacted was a co conspirator named as a co conspirator
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  in the case involving Jeffrey Epstein. Pack Leuka objects to
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  the form and the foundation, and also calls for a
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  legal conclusion. McCauley, I'm just asking if she is aware
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  of that. Maxwell. I'm aware McCauley. Who paid redacted? Maxwell?
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  I have no idea. McCauley. Did you ever arrange payment
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  for any of the employees at the home? Pack Leuka
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  object to the form. Maxwell, what do you mean by
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  arrange mccaull were you ever in charge or responsible for
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  paying individuals at the home that work there? Maxwell? People
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  had salaries and they were paid by the office. McCauley.
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  Did you ever pay an individual? Did you ever hand
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  an individual cash for work they performed? Pagluka objective form. Maxwell,
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  can you be more specific about what you were asking me? McCauley.
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  Did you ever hand any individual who was working at
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  the home cash's payment for something that they had performed
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  at the home? Pagliuka object to the form. Maxwell. To
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  the best of my recollection, there were very few times
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  where I would leave some cash for people for work performed, McCauley.
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  And what type of work was being performed where you
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  would be doing that, Maxwell? If I left cash for
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  the pool guy I would have left potentially some cash
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  for the gardener, potentially for exercise instructors, and sometimes for
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  massage therapy. McCauley. How much were the massage therapists paid?
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  Page Yuka object to the form and the foundation. Maxwell
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  They get paid between one hundred and two hundred dollars. McCauley.
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  Did it very based on what sexual acts they performed.
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  Pagliuca object to the form and the foundation. Maxwell. No,
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  it varied depending on how much time. Some massage therapists
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  charge more and some charge less. McCauley. Did the massage
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  therapists that were hired to come to the home perform
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  sexual acts for Jeffrey Epstein? Pagliuca objects to the form
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  and the foundation. Maxwell, What are you asking me, McCauley,
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  I'm asking if the massage therapists Maxwell. Are you asking
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  me about underage girls? McCauley, I'm asking in general? Did
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  any of the massage therapists in the home? Maxwell cuts
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  her off. Are you asking if they were paid for
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  sexual acts? McCauley, I'm asking if they perform sexual acts?
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  Mister Pagliuca object to the form and the foundation. McCauley,
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  did any of them massage therapists who are at the
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  home perform sexual acts for Jeffrey Epstein. Glenn Maxwell, I
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  don't know what you mean by sexual acts, McCauley. Did
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  any of the massage therapists who are working at the
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  home perform sexual acts, including touching the breast, touching the
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  vaginal area, being touched while Jeffrey is masturbating, having intercourse,
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  any of those things? Pagliuca objection, form and foundation to
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  the extent any of this is asking for you, to
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  your knowledge, any consensual sex act that you may or
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  may not have been involved with. I'm instructing you not
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  to answer the question. McCauley. I'm not asking about consensual sex.
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  I'm asking whether any of the massage therapists perform sexual
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  acts for mister Epstein as I have just described. Maxwell,
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  I have never seen anybody have sexual intercourse with Jeffrey ever. McCauley,
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  I'm not asking about sexual intercourse. I'm asking about any
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  sexual act touching of the breast. Did you ever see
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  Can you read back the question the record read Glenn Maxwell,
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  I'm not addressing any questions about consensual adult sex. If
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  you want to talk about what the subject matter, which
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  is defamation in lying Virginia Roberts that you and Virginia
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  Roberts are participating in perpetuating her lies. I'm happy to
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  address those. I never saw any inappropriate underage activities with
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  Jeffrey Epstein. McCauley, I'm not asking about underage. I'm asking
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  about whether any of the messuses that were at the
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  home performed sexual acts for Jeffrey Epstein. Glenn Maxwell, I
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  have just answered the question. McCauley. No you haven't, Maxwell,
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  I have, McCauley. No you haven't, Maxwell, Yes, I have. McCauley.
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  You were refusing to answer the question. Maxwell. Let's move on. McCauley.
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  I'm in charge of the deposition. I say when we
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  move on and when we don't. You were here to
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  respond to my questions. If you were refusing to answer,
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  the court will bring you back for another deposition to
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  answer these questions. Do you understand that, Pagliuka, you don't
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  need to threaten the witness. McCauley. I'm not threatening her.
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  I'm making sure the record is clear. Pagliuka, certainly, can
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  you apply to have someone back, and the court may
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  or may not have her come back again. She is
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  not answering questions that relate to adult consent sex acts, period,
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  and that's the instruction that we can take it up
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  with the court. McCauley, Miss Maxwell, are you aware of
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  any sexual acts with Messuses and Jeffrey Epstein that were
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  non consensual? Maxwell? No, McCauley, how do you know that? Maxwell?
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  All the times that I have been in the house,
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  I have never seen, heard, nor witness, nor have reported
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  to me that any activities took place that people were
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  in distress, either reported to me by the staff or
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  anyone else. I base my answer based on that. All right, folks,
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  we're going to wrap up this episode here and in
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  the next episode we're gonna pick up where we left off.
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